I had two of these figures growing up and both said different phrases, one had"Freeze! *leg holster sound*""*gunfire*""Uphold the law!"and the other said"You called for back-up?""Don't move!""*gunfire sounds*"Were there any other variants?
>>11754954Is that the Toy Island 8 inch line?There were 3.>Weapon arm>Flight pack>BazookaMy younger brother had the weapon arm one. https://www.figurerealm.com/actionfigure?action=seriesitemlist&id=4406&ssid=3
>>11755006>Is that the Toy Island 8 inch line?Yeah, did all three have individual audio chips?
I still have mine from my childhood. Mine says:>DROP IT!>DRUGS ARE TROUBLE>Ricocheting gun soundLooks just like the one in the OP picture, too. I don't remember any accessories besides his pistol, which granted I lost thirty years ago.
>>11755012Yep.The two you had were Weapon Arm and Flight Pack respectively, and >>11755037 had Bazooka. >>11755037That photo archive I linked to shows them on card with their weapons. Yours also came with a bazooka and a couple of missiles.
>>11755037>his pistol, which granted I lost thirty years ago.Same, why the hell were guns so hard to keep a hold of as a kid?
>>11755042>Yours also came with a bazooka and a couple of missiles.I believe you, though seeing that got me thinking. I would have gotten mine around 1998, which is a few years after that initial release you linked to. I really don't remember a bazooka (again, long time ago), so I also wonder if my potentially-later figure just got rid of that accessory to save money or whatever. More to OP's point, are the different sound variants all from different years/releases of the figure? Or were there multiple phrase variations released at the same time?
>>11755052>More to OP's point, are the different sound variants all from different years/releases of the figure?They all came out in 93, but they hung around for years. I think my bro got his 95 on clearance at TRU, but I remember seeing them for a few more years after that. I don't think there was ever a rerelease. I remember finding a whole rack of them on the side of the end cap while hunting for Star Wars stuff, probably around the same time you got yours. I was definitely working at that point, so 97-98 seems about right.
>>11755160I've seen robocop figures as late as 99 and into the early 2000s. Toysrus had a huge problem with backstock on older items that around 2003 I was able to find an original mighty morphin power rangers (1993 release) and robocop figures.Im not sure if it was just a local thing but I heard that a few stores around my area pulled it all out and put it on the floor as a massive green tag clearance thing.
>>11755525It pisses me off no-end that there aren't more modern figures, I know we got the Re-Action figures and they're "okay" but Robocop is such a toyetic property, the could easily have done another cartoon or something (just started watch Alpha Commando and that shit's awesome, reminds me of Spider-Man Unlimited). I have this Nightfighter Robocop (image taken from a Pixel Dan review) and I love this little bastard, I even have the Re-Action version, which is the only tribute version that keeps the metallic blue parts, I love glow in the dark figures and God dammit I'd love to see a modern update. Fuck this boring ass future with its lame mass-retail "action" figures.
>>11755807All that said, there is a rumoured Amazon Prime series coming, if that comes to fruition and isn't totally shit, maybe something will happen on the toy front. Unlikely, but hope springs eternal.
>>11755817Wouldn't it be monkey pawed to be based on the remake?
>>11755807Yeah, I'd be happy for some RoboCop TOYS. The neca stuff and imports look great but they aren't for actual play. I've got one old RoboCop, it's missing pieces but I still like him. Imagine a real kenner homage styled line of RoboCop and terminators and aliens and predators. Lanard toys could handle the job
>>11755967I honestly think fusing the original Neumeier & Miner Robocop 2 (that they used as the pilot movie for Robocop The Series) with the Alpha Commando premise would be the best choice. But most likely it's gonna be focused around some female rookie cop who doesn't get any respect because she's a woman, completely disregarding Anne Lewis and the other strong female characters that exist throughout the whole franchise.
>>11756300>Lanard toys could handle the jobEither Lanard or Playmates, both companies do solid toy work. I think Playmates are better in the sculpt/paint department, but I fucking hate their hip joint design, honestly a simple T-hip would be better than the current setup.
>>11755807>>11756300During the pandemic I became obsessed with the idea of a Lanard Robocop line. Over the years I'd mention it on and off again here and there but I dont think I ever got around to sharing the concepts I came up with. Alot of these were spurred on by Robocop's MK11 cosmetics, and others were just asspulls I thought would prove to be fun toys. For a time I even humored the thought of a Robocop constraction line.
Every character in the line would have come with a robot animal buddy themed to their respective mission. It'd be 90% Robocop repaints, most with new heads or modular arm segments, in addition to different paint jobs.
I'm still surprised NECA didnt make Cable.
Almost done, sorry for taking up the thread. Might aswell catbox the remaining two pics. https://files.catbox.moe/2hp29u.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/ffnt59.jpg
>>11756426I forgot to note, Neural Net Robo was supposed to be an update of Nightfighter Robo. He'd still glow in the dark but he'd also have a light up visor and siren ontop of his head in addition to coming with a little robot dino buddy. I got the idea for the robo buddies from the then concurrent Corps releases. I just loved the robot animals and ideally I wanted these guys to stand at around thst 5.5 or 6 inch mark so they could scale with modern lines.
>>11756399Y'know I've had Terminator on the brain alot lately and after the last few /toy/ threads dedicated to the subject I really wouldnt mind if Playmates nabbed the license again. Remastered versions of the Kenner T2 figures could be fun, especially if they scaled with TMNT and MOTU. God knows Paramount isnt paying any mind to the movie's 35th anniversary, so maybe Playmates can jump on that saddle in time for the 40th anniversary.
>>11754954People always discuss the old Kenner figures but you rarely hear anyone dwell on the vehicles. It's honestly a shame because the vehicles are some of the best toys of their day. The Robo-Copter being my favorite of the bunch. I wish someone were willing to reissue this line, the after market for alot of the vehicles is nuts.
>>11756419We meet again. Sorry for getting lazy with the colouring in the last thread, honestly I just don't have that much time to sit and get these done lately, and when I do I just want to space out.But I appreciate your contributions as always. I finally got this one to an "acceptable" state. I have to give props to the other colourist anon who did the Neverending Story pic in the MOTU thread. Absolutely blows my work out of the water.I'll admit, I'm a little bummed that there weren't more anons in the Terminator thread, and (I assume) this one, purely because I worry that as time goes on Terminator and Robocop will just fade away because Zoomers don't give a shit about "old" movies.
>>11756834The Kenner Robocop (and by extension the animated series) bugs me because the silver crotch throws off the design. It just doesn't look right, kinda like how they got rid of the trunks off the NU52 DC designs.
Does anyone have experience with Trick or Treat studios? I have their Robocop and Boddicker pre-ordered, I hope they're good.
>>11757602No worries at all anon, I understand life can get in the way of hobby stuff. Your inking/color jobs on my art are always appreciated so it goes without saying how big of a surprise that pic turned out to be. Hat's off yet again!>. I have to give props to the other colourist anon who did the Neverending Story pic in the MOTU thread. Absolutely blows my work out of the water.I suspect he used some AI program for those but I appreciated them anyways. It really breathed some much needed life into the Gore-illa piece didnt it? Dont let it get you down though, I'm just happy you guys like my art.>I'm a little bummed that there weren't more anons in the Terminator threadTrust me I know the feeling. I was hoping this thread would see more activity too and it's about as slow as the rest of the board. I know both "franchises" are a little over the hill, but I'll always have a soft spot for them. Honestly your last two threads did alot to reignite the love I had for them. In the end I went out and splurged on the DVDs and a few of the vintage figures. I hope the younger generations can learn to appreciate these classics but at this point I've accepted it's better that they dont. Let them find their own fun. That said I still really want new toys for both Robocop and Terminator. "Toy" toys just like everyone else in here is clamoring for. I'd happily settle for playmates but considering how big Blokees is getting it wouldnt surprise me if they got a hold of both characters first.
>>11757618From a production stand point I can understand why they made the change but it really is difficult to warm upto. The Toy Island figures are a massive improvement if you're looking for a screen accurate Robo in that same scale. I dont know what the rights situation to the cartoon is like these days but the series really is prime Tubi bait. I revisited it some years ago and was stunned by just how much it felt like a product of OCP. It's hard to determine how much of that was intentional. Man I really want a Robocop construction line based off it.
>>11757619I liked their Toxic Crusader reissues well enough but their lines release at glacial paces. Those protos looked alright too but I dont understand why their newer releases all mimic the Coleco Rambo line.
>>11754954There was also a 12 inch figure
>>11758644Those toxic crusaders did look good but like you said, the length of time between them was too long. I wanted the toxie and should've just got one regardless of whether he had a "friend" or not. It would've looked fine with the playmates TMNT figures o do have
>>11758649You'd think they would have picked up the pace once they hit walmart but if anything its been the opposite, even inspite of how the toys flew off shelves.
>>11758644Did they use that figure for Robocop 3 or was the figure in the film an older vinyl kit? I've always wanted the figure Nikko had in the film.
>>11759019NTA but I think that was the exact kit they bootlegged to make the infamous robertcop K.O.
Still amuses me how many toy companies rode the Robocop and Ranger crazes of the early 90's simultaneously. So many Robocop cpoy cats got repainted into faux rangers and vice versa. The Soma Toys Super Sonic Rangers stand out as the most recognizable examples but there were others. Even Lanard had a line of roller skating rangers.
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I remember owning an electronic 4-5 inch Robocop with a flight pack. His visor lit up and he made a beeping noise. He was sold alongside coloured transparent Robocops that lit up and made no sounds. Does anyone know which company made those?>>11759778Like something out a throwaway 2000AD story.>>11756426Charming drawings, mate.
>>11759874>Does anyone know which company made those?Sounds like one of the Toy Island releases. The transparent figures were likely the power glow figures.Glad you liked the art btw!
It's just dawned on me that Robocop's 40th anniversary is next year. Man I hope somebody planned something fun...
>>11760436There's supposed to be an Amazon Prime series coming. No idea if that's actually happening though.
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I appreciate that Toy Island actually made a figure of Madigan (and Nancy Miner from Alpha Commando).
>>11760687 >amazonI sure as hell hope not
>>11760788RoboCop was made by Orion, that got bought by MGM, that itself was eventually bought by Amazon. So for better or worse, Amazon owns RoboCop now.
>>11762020I'm aware of all that. I just hope they dont make the show. They've fucked up plenty already.
>>11762022I know, but they have done some good stuff too. So hopefully it leans more toward Reacher than Rings of Power.
>>11756431Thats looks like the Cops N Crooks one.
>>11763866There was a handful of different paxk in buddies. Anyone of them would have paired well with Robocop. Lately I was also thinking the Action Master vehicles would have made a funnsource of inspo for the line too. Maybe it's just my overactive imagination.
>>11764097Thats quite a good idea. And quite hard to get a pic of the robo dog.
>>11763866And it looks like Cops N Crooks could fit with Robocop too.
>>11764271But i dont think that both toys are the same size.
I post some toy lists.
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>>11764266If you ask me Lanard missed a golden opportunity to release just the animal buddies as blindbag toys. They're cool enough on their own to merit such a release, doubly so if they were made availible in all sorts of different colors.Tangentially, I'm still baffled Hasbro never thought to repackage Action Master vehicles are Gi Joe products. Alot of this stuff could have slid in effortlessly next to 90's Gi Joe offerings. Almost feels like an upscaled MASK line in certain respects.>>11764271I forget how expansive a line COPS was. Man I wish somebody somewhere had gotten the bright idea to pair these with Robocop in those days.>>11764278>>11764280>>11764281I desperately wish we had gotten a Mega Bloks Robocop line that covered this entire range.
>>11764293>>11764337The Robo-Copter, Robo-Jailer, and Robo-Tank have got to be some of the most underrated toys of their time.
>>11764383*as Gi Joe productsMight aswell note how much I believe in the potential of an Action Masters reissue, but with Blokees around now it's hard to say if it'd have legs.
Lanard we are waiting for you to return. Please? I'm sure no one would be bothered if you took some of these ideas for your own, heck, most of us would happily buy the products.
>>11764445Seconding :'(
>>11764383The blindbag idea could really work. But does they have more than 4 molds? Because i dont think 4 molds are enough to get enough sales, even with different color variants.I think that Action Masters Blaster vehicles are the only ones that could fit with GI Joe.The others look more like something from James Bond JR.
>>11764885Upto this point, yeah, it's just the four molds. You could pad two waves with just that much. If they sell well then you could invest in new molds. >I think that Action Masters Blaster vehicles are the only ones that could fit with GI JoeTakara rereleased a few action master vehicles with Microman towards the start of the new millenium, done up in all sorts of wild colors. I think there was plenty potential there for Gi Joe. Besides just military redecos, they could have gone all out on the garish colors and themeing. It's not like they werent already getting weird with the line by then. Eco force, mutants, space aliens, dinosaurs. Hasbro was shoving in every trend they could to keep the line alive.
>>11765037The four molds could be doubled if the leg pegs were the same size for all robo pets.
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>>11765315But thats something that was forgotten in the design process.
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>>11765037Ok, the 90s Gi Joe were wild.
>>11765314At that point you'd have to worry about clearance issues between the torso and "hips". Reusing the existing tooling could open the doors to some creative reuse though. Imagine a wave featuring all four animals in transmetal rattrap inspired "vehicle modes". Just pop on a set of offbrand diecsst car wheels and spray on some crazy new colors. Kudos for nabbing all these WIP pics from their instagram btw.
>>11765332They really were! I lament not being around for them. My era of Joe was much later, and book ended between Extreme and Sigma 6. For as much as I enjoyed that stuff I would have gotten alot more out of eco warriors, star brigade, and even tiger force as a kid. As I've heard things the veteran design team for Joe was really disinterested in all the trendchasing the PR guys pushed them to pursue, but the end results are astonishing. I almost wish it marked the start of a new toyline. There's just so much creativity on display in those later years.
>>11765320I could see Robocop pairing best with this guy. Cable could get the wolf, and you could stick Lewis with either the dinosaur or the panther just to better sell her to potential buyers. Either that or you stick her with the Robo-Copter as an exclusive pack-in. >>11765321Im happy with the end result we got but that sabertooth head was much cooler.
>>11765405The designer was asked to make them really look like the animal they impersonate. The wolf, dog and sabertooth are all four legged, so they could have legs that could work with all three. At least wolf and dog have similar anatomy.Or the weapons could have pegs in one size and work with all bodies. But this wasnt their intentions to make a collecting blindbag series.
>>11765412I think the 80s were when soldier and war toys had a hardtime, because of Vietnam and Gulf war. Thats why GI Joe became more a world police corp with fighting a James Bond like organizatin like Cobra. And then Turtles, Martial Arts and Sci-Fi happened.
>>11765415If you go by logic, i would pair Dog and Wolf with Ultra Police. The Sabertooth and Raptor with Vandals.Lewis should be packed together with a vehicle, the copter is a good idea. Because we know female figures dont sell that good. But Lanard does Aliens toys. They were made by Kenner too. Maybe they try to get all themold Kenner movie IPs?
>>11765415The Sabertooth head needed that mouth feature. And the first design is a very abstract head mold.
>>11765838Animal buddies are a lost art nowadays>>11765842Towards the end of the decade you really see them pivoting away from baseline military shenanigans. First they jump on the success of Aliens and it gets wilder from there. That Ninja Force line is just the tip of the iceberg. Also man, Ninja Force Zartan is a head of hair and some paint away from being a deadringer for the Terminator. I really wish we'd get some o-ring offerings for Rambo, Arnie, and Robocop.
>>11765851Works for me! Now it's worth asking what scale would best suit the line. >But Lanard does Aliens toys. They were made by Kenner too. Maybe they try to get all themold Kenner movie IPs?That was my hope when both lines first showed up on walmart shelves. I do wknder if there's a chance in hell that they could rerelease tany of these. They've probably missed the boat already though. it sucks.
>>11765964Animal buddies are mostly shoved in without any thought brhind it. Thats why it decreased over the years.
>>11765969Isnt there a standard size for toys? I mean Kenner Star Wars and GI Joe set the size.
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>>11766262Yeah pretty much. It blows.>>11766282Yeah 3.75" works fine, but Kenner's stuff skewed closer to the 5 inch scale, which js why they didnt scale with the T2 figures. Same way Lanard's preds didnt scale with their Xenos. I remember the 6" figures dwarfing the larger xenos too.>>11766289Man that movie line came and went so fast it was nothing short of depressing.
>>11766282>don't ever hunt with me or my sons ever again
>>11766382Because Robocop 2014 wasnt a success. And a generic action movie.Weird that they could never agree on a size standard. I dont think that when playing and mixing toy series the size differences matters that much. But still they should agree on one size.
>>11766619The toy island vehicles were all insanely well done. I wonder why they put so much effort into them. Maybe they had plans to reuse those molds?
>>11766382OP here, well this thread kind of exploded while I was away. The Jada RoboCop figures kinda suck, I liked the film for what it was and I actually dug the design of the silver suit. I grabbed bot the smaller and larger versions of RoboCop and they're actually kinda unpleasant to play with, the joints are really limited, picrel is the elbow at maximum bend, and the hips are complete garbage. Also there is no way to change the batteries for the light-up feature without fully disassembling not just the figure, but the electronics themselves.Just an absolute disaster of a toyline.
>>11766840They did. Found this hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs-general-discussion/357454-robocop-humvee.html
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>>11766920What a weird elbow design. It sounds as if they knew that the movie bombs. So they put not much effort in it to make maximum profit.
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>>11766929>It sounds as if they knew that the movie bombs.Honestly given that the response to the film coming out was people screaming their rejection of it, it bombing was a pretty safe bet.Smart move, release a few cheap figures and if the film bombs, not a great loss, if the film is a runaway hit, do a second wave with better designed figures.
I'm really looking forward to the 200X Roboto coming out. This pleases me as both a Robocop and MOTU fan.
>>11766960It also will not be the first time I've bought a figure based purely on RoboCop vibes.
>>11766920That Jada of all companies made these is the most baffling detail. It shows how far they came in such a relatively short span of time. Still, I eish the reboot toys had been better. I think part of the reason I look back fondly on Terminator Salvation is its toyline, it was nice to have a half dozen Terminators for a few pennies. My hope was for the Jada line to deliver something similar for Robocop (ED209 + all those police droids, etc) but even that was too high a bar somehow. The World War Z toyline was all around better!>>11766922Holy shit I had no clue they did a Rambo line. Man they really milked the hell out of that hummer. Y'know lately I keep eyeballing those new Super7 Reaction+ figures. If their intent is to pair these with ARAH figures, why not invest in licenses that would pair well with Gi Joe? Terminator, Robocop, Rambo, and either Chuck Norris or Mad Max. Those all seem like such obvious inclusions. You could even double dip on a few of those. Hell just cut out the middle man and license the actor's likenesses to release legally distinct figures of them.
>>11766929The Mortal Kombat hummer is the coolest thing Ive seen in awhile. God why did we ever give up on flame paintjobs.
>>11766960reminds me of that one anon's partswap creation from a few years ago
>>11766996>lately I keep eyeballing those new Super7 Reaction+ figures. The sculpts look like such a significant improvement over the previous ReAction figures and if the plastic isn't the consistency of packing peanuts then there is real potential there. Doesn't the head of Super7 have some bug up their ass about them not being toys? Just accept it and make them sturdy, that's all we ask.>If their intent is to pair these with ARAH figures, why not invest in licenses that would pair well with Gi Joe? Terminator, Robocop, Rambo, and either Chuck Norris or Mad Max. Those all seem like such obvious inclusions.They really are and so many of them lend to easy mould re-use for colour variants. I mean shit RoboCop alone has two canon colour variants if you go by the movies alone, then you could do things like Nightfighter RoboCop (which Super7 have done before), hell you want a really deep cut, do a black chrome (or at least metallic black) repaint and you have RoboCable for the five people out there that like the Prime Directives series.
>>11766960Robocop on steroids!
>>11767047I got Karza on sale this past Christmas, and I've had a blast with him thus far. If you can land them for cheap I recommend them highly. Their stupid insistency that their products arent toys and the high prices really kneecaps them from actual growth. They have a Unviersal Monsters line out now too and I just keep mulling over how eagerly I'd snatch up the four if they were sold together in a gift set for 50 bucks altogether. There's no reason for these guys to cost 20-25 bucks a piece. >They really are and so many of them lend to easy mould re-use for colour variants. I mean shit RoboCop alone has two canon colour variants if you go by the movies alone, then you could do things like Nightfighter RoboCop (which Super7 have done before), hell you want a really deep cut, do a black chrome (or at least metallic black) repaint and you have RoboCable for the five people out there that like the Prime Directives seriesPreaching to the choir! Hell take some cues from those MK11 cosmetics/toy island variants and go hog wild.
I still find it a little nuts that Todd had the MK11 license but didnt make Terminator, Robo, or Rambo. It'd have been a golden opportunity.
>>11766996>>11766996I didnt knew they did some toys for the Ramboo cartoon till i searched for the Humvee mold.That is a good idea with Reaction series. And they did some Robocop ones.
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>>11767076I dont think that you can sell a license from someone else and sell them with your license.
>>11767085>>11767087I think I spotted mutant Emil at a convention once>>11767092He'd obviously have to pay for those other licenses but he could have just as easily turned around and released them independently of the games too. Sort of how NECA handled the Terminator vs Robocop line.
>>11767076NECA probably has an exclusive license for figures at that scale, which is a shame because it would have been interesting to see how new RoboCop and Terminator figures would have turned out since McFarlane's last attempt. Especially given that he had to purposely screw up the face on the T2 figure due to Arnie pulling the likeness rights right before the figure released.
>>11767076I don't know what it is about the MK11 model, but it just doesn't seem to capture the solidity of Robo, too thin maybe? That's one thing I like about Rogue City, Robo looks and feels like a walking tank.
>>11767137Seems plausible considering every other Robocop and Terminator made in the last 20 odd years has been in a drastically different scale and price point. Still it'd have been nice to see somebody else take that wheel for a change.Man that original Mcfarlane Terminator is still hilarious. To his credit the T3 line aged well. I think they have better sculpts than some of the NECA stuff at this point, even inspite of functionally being statues. >>11767285I know what you mean. You see it on the Arnie model too. Everyone just moves too quickly? It might be down to the engine or something. Since we're griping about vidya, the insistence on basing the MK11 Terminator model off Arnie's Dark Fate look still burns my ass. They didnt even include the other movie looks as alt costumes. You just get these dogshit recolors of the main skin with some asspull jacket.
>>11767338>basing the MK11 Terminator model off Arnie's Dark Fate look still burns my ass.They changed the T-800 designs as well, one of the ending animation uses the Genisys T-800 which they re-used for the opening of Dark Fate, but the time displacement fatality has an almost completely original T-800 design. Chances are, because the T-800 in Dark Fate and T2 are technically different characters there might be some bullshit licensing where the devs would need to pay a separate fee to use the T2 likeness, and given that the Terminator inclusion is mostly just a marketing tie-in for Dark Fate it's probably not worth it.Licensing fees are such a ball ache.
>>11767348I figured something like that was the case. The cuck beard and party city T2 outfit just sour my fun even now.
>>11767116I just gave it a try. Todd had the Terminator and Robocop license once.
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>>11767493I wish they'ed merchandise the later films as much as the first two. I guess there's that third party Arnie based off his battle damaged look in T3, but I much rather have a vanilla version of that design along with a Redemption variant. Man, there really are as many T-800 variants as there are Robocop ones at this point.>>11767497>Articulates Robocop>Leaves Arnie a statuewhat did he mean by this?
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>>11767590Because the first two movies are the most iconic. The third is an ok action movie but not as outstanding.
>>11767590>what did he mean by this?They mean>Clothing and cool action poses dont look that good with articulated figuresRobocop and his robotic movements just works with articulation.
Super7's Karza was a really solid model to conceptualize an O-ring Robo off of.
>>11768291I get that, and I understand that the average person doesnt have much fondness for any of the films that followed Judgement Day, but I would appreciate it. Honestly looking back on everything you get a sense there was an attempt to loosely connect Salvation to T3. Even though it didnt stick I still appreciated the effort. The franchise is 40 years old now, you might aswell celebrate it's history.
>>11768974That Karza is really very similar to Robocops body.Like that R.o.v.e.r.>>11769010Are Robocop and Terminator somehow connected? Besides getting Kenner toys?I feel like you could connect them. Maybe Skynet is the main computer that runs Robocops and police data? Or another failed company who tries to bank on Robocops popularity.
>>11768980The problem was that they felt like just repeating. 3 was the same movie but with a new Terminator model. And so the movies afterwards had no good standing.
>>11769321They're unofficially related franchises these days. Both products of Orion Pictures, both popular cyborgs, both having paved the way for capeshit movies. If T1 hadnr happened Orion would have never greenlit Robocop. Their destinies are intertwined for whatever reason. In the Robocop vs Terminator comic, Frank Miller posited the success of Robocop's creation paved the way for Skynet's. The story follows an inverse of the 1984 film where in terminators are sent back to protect Robo rather than kill a Connor. >>11769326The unfortunate reality of the series is the best work following Judgement Day was limited to print. The Terminator Nuclear Twilight series is considered a better T3 by many diehards. Though just as many consider Battle Across Time the true 3rd film. I'm sort of torn between them all. Really it's a shame Salvation fared poorly because more than anything I just wanted a John Connor Future War film and I've only ever gotten morsels of that upto this point.
>>11769549>Robocop vs Terminator comic byFrank MillerThat sounds great. And the synopsis sounds like a cool story.I never read any Terminator comic.
>>11769629I havent read them *all* but I've read enough to know the bullet points. The Now comics run is batshit insanity and practically only shares the name in common with that original film, the Dark Horse run is repetitive but closer to the mark of what people in 1989 would have expected of a "Terminator 2", then there's the awesome graphic novelization of T2 that came out of Marvel, the Malibu run (Nuclear Twilight) that followed T2 by a few years, and Miller's Robocop vs Terminator.There's been plenty more since but nothing as interesting or monumental. The transformers crossover is bafflingly tame and they dont have any fun with the idea at all. Dynamite's efforts are farts in the wind from what I've heard.Anyways fun bit of trivia, Alex Ross' first major published work was a Terminator comic!
The scale's a little fucky but having ended up with just the alternate head off a Rapid Repair Terminator I thought to do this. He can pull double duty as either an enemy T-800, Dutch, or John Matrix!
>>11769761...and Bill Rizer!
>>11769846Just about yeah!
>>11769715There really are alot of comics. I wonder how much are just stories and how many are canon. I guess thats the problem that Star Wars had too. You produce so many stories that you run into continuity problems and what is canon.>Alex RossThats cool! Those Terminator models look more like Star Wars but kinda would fit as non undercover units.
>>11769761The scale looks fine. When you look at the hips, this is just a sculptor thing making him more crouching action pose.
>>11769965The pre-T2 comics are fascinating in how much they diverge from the direction the series took. Beyond the prescence of killer robots everything else is radically different. Apparently the NOW writers wanted to capture the essence of The Prisoner in their books, which certainly explains alot. In general you just get treated to alot of crazy ass visuals in those earlier books.Having said as much I've been mulling over what I'd like to see in a "7th" Terminator movie. Besides focusing on a Salvation-esque John Connor as played by Norman Reedus (with endoskeleton prosthetic arm no less) I'd probably dedicate a scene or two to alot of these sequels. Skynet would be shown calculating various potential chronological outcomes and you'd see brief dream-like flashes of scenes from the other films, games, and comics. All that to imply Skynet considered these various results in the lead upto the creation of its own time machine. It'd be a little like that Matrix revolution scene but nowhere as lame or obvious.
>>11769966The Gi Joe Extreme figures do stand a head shorter than the average T2 guy, but the proportions were so close otherwise I went for it anyway. Funny thing is both versions of SGT Savage from the Extreme line would make ideal bodies for a Terminator. The variant to this one is pretty much just the Judgement Day T-800 outfit sans sleeves.
>>11770195>alot of crazy ass visuals in those earlier books.Sounds as if the Matrix got heavily inspired by the early Terminator franchise.You have a point that everything that contradict itself could be a different timeline. And Salvation-based story is really a good idea.
>>11770197GI Joe Xtreme really are good molds for Terminator toys. But not Robocop toys.
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>>11770217The Vehicles really have a postapocalyptic look to them.
>>11770208Certainly seems like it. I remember some guys years ago making the case that Arnold started the sunglasses and black leather jacket trend of the 90's. The watchowskis were both comic book dweebs too, so it all checks out. Having grown up with these movies I ultimately just want a love letter to the franchise that can finally close the door on it. This Connor Future War idea would avoid using "The Terminator" in it's title to really cement that. My aim would be a completion of the time loop. If that movie made money then I'd make some lower budget sequels set in the future war following unrelated resistance battalions taking on random WWE wrestlers as enemy T-800's in the hopes that Paramount would finally leave the series alone.I feel a little bad for taking so much attention away from Robocop now lol. Maybe later today I can rectify that.
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>>11770213>>11770217>>11770219I thought as much myself! They're incredibly close in scale and aesthetics. There's even an Iron Klaw variant which could work as a base for a Future War John (pic related). I can mock it up later but I wanted to replace the right arm with an endoskeleton's.
>forgot pic>>11770222That design really reminds me of the salvation motorbike terminators.
>>11770225Pic related could be some Resistance heavy armored soldier.
It's a little off-topic but here's another custom I mocked up awhile back. Using the head off a Mattel John Spartan, plopped onto a Sgt Savage torso, with Metalhead's limbs to get a grunge 90's Rambo.
>>11770227Funny is that i saved a pic of this figure too. But couldt post it till now. Yeah that sculp has alot of repurpose possibility.
>>11770232The guns being so Liefieldian really helps sells things too. Most of the Extreme line up can make for easy reistance fighter army builders with just a few head swaps. I wish Kenner customs were a bigger thing online because I've seen a number of people cook up some real magic.
>>11770236Besides the robot face, it's just appropriately 90's cool. The only hang up I have now is figuring out what head to use. I considered some Batman Begins Bruce Wayne heads but that would require alot of modification.
The Steel line has some great potential as Resistance fodder but I think the figures are a little shorter
>>11770220You are right. The leather jackets and sunglasses are very big in Matrix too. They could really be from Salvation timeline.>My aim would be a completion of the time loop.Sounds very final. I could see that this either stops all interest in further movies. >WWE wrestlers as enemy T-800Do they do that already? If not, this isreally a great synergy idea.
>>11770235Thats a nice custom. But it looks more like a biker Rambo that ended in an American Native Reservat.I stumbled upon the Last Action Hero toys, are they the same size too? They could work for Robocop.
>>11770237There really is a beauty with the Kenner style designs and the 5poa. Makes them good to use for other IPs.
>>11770248I've seen enough fan theories online connecting the two that I could believe it. It wouldnt take alot to plug all these properties together considering all the shared DNA. Perhaps Marcus could return as some sort of machine messiah to aid in Connor's post-war reconstruction efforts?Like I said it's the sort of thing that's occupied my mind off and on for a number of years now. The only reason we kept getting Terminator movies is because we never properly closed the door on John's story. The demand for both more Arnie and a cyberpunk Douglas Macarthur justified more sequels. Might aswell nip things in the bud if possible. >Do they do that already? If not, this isreally a great synergy ideaTo my knowledge it hasnt been done yet. Over the years there were rumors of Dwayne Johnson taking over the franchise but they never manifested. If it were left upto me I'd grab a bunch of C-list talents just to maximize profits. The biggest names I'd aim for would be Brock Lesnar or John Cena as the villains. Just think of them all as small scale sci-fi war movies following various efforts to sabotage Skynet's industrial capacity. In the short term you get to sell endoskeleton toys out the wazoo.
>>11770240The whole body could be from a Terminator, kinda like >>11769965
>>11770251Lol I see what you mean, but considering where Rambo 3 left off I dont think it's too off brand for the character. Almost sells the idea of a 90's Rambo even more really.Another mock up I might aswell share is a repurposed Cybergrip. I'm still surprised Kenner themselves didnt think of this. Just pop an Arnold head on there and it gets twice as cool.As for the Last Action Hero toys, they're a smidge taller than the Kenner T2 toys. Unfortunately most vintage Robocop lines never skewed larger than 4 inches. They all scale better with Batman than Terminator.
>>11770256Right? There's just alot of versatility within the one off lines they produced through out the 90's than probably they even realized.
>>11770260Not wrong. Man those knight designs kick ass dont they?
>>11770242Yeah>>11770259It could really close the need of rebooting or recycling the Terminator 1 plots.But this final thing is often the problem that the following new stories are mot well thought out.
>>11770268That would be the sweetest reward really. Finally breaking away from recycling the first two movies would mean alot. It'd definitely take a miracle to realize in anycase. Just to shift back to the thread topic, I still dont think the Robocop redesign was that bad. The movie is unfortunately very toothless and mediocre, but like Terminator Genisys, does have a handful of cool visuals. I really wish they'ed made more use of that camoflauge idea they presented earlier in the movie when they diss the silver look. The other scene where Murphy is reduced to just a brainstem and a pair of lungs is really haunting too. Almost felt more appropriate for Silverhawks in a way. If those Jada toys had been designed a bit better I doubt I'd have passed on them like I did. The design really isnt terrible, but it also just isnt "Robocop". Sort of brings to mind the edgy bomberman game on xbox.
>>11770263That mock-up looks cool. The head looks a little bit big.And that is clearly a T-800 custom junkyard Resistance bodyguard. A damaged Terminator found, hijacked, reprogrammed and repaired with Junkyard parts.Probably because they are from Mattel. They had their own size.
>>11770266Vehicles are often recycled in other lines. Figures not. Probably because even in the 90s they were from other franchises and the molds bound zo their kicense. Even when they create new characters that are not from the franchise.
>>11770360Great minds think alike! I'm still surprised none of the mainline films thought to do as much. T3 Redemption (the gamecube game) was the only bit of media to focus an Arnie adventure in the Future War and even that much isnt the focus of the game. Anyways I saved a few pictures off ebay for scale reference over the last few months. As you can see Slater's just a hair taller than the T-800.
And a comparison with a Toy Island Robocop
>>11770363Was their Robin Hood line the last time companies could get away with that? I remember toybiz pulling similar stunts in the early 2000's between their WCW and Marvel toylines, but they usually tried hiding it.
Kenner vs Toy Island comparison
>>11770282I could see that the 2014 movie could be a “son“ of Robocop. Kinda like Murphy was decommissioned, because too old and repairing for duty became too expensive. They try to create a successor. They know now how to do it right but the candidate is fanatical in catching and killing criminals. Police and judge in one. After killing several cops he want amok. One cop is still living and get transformed into the new Robocop. But he needs help from the old Robocop. They win and you get now a cop duo, the old Grumpy and the young, witty cop.
>>11770390That would have been alot more fun. I can sort of see them reducing Murphy to either a lookalike stand-in or a CGI effect to better sell the team up. Maybe the "new" Robocop is alot more limber too, closer to say Raiden. Just seeing how differently the two handle a shared enemy would have been cool. As I write this I cant help but think of some of the action scenes from Chappie and Bloodshot.
>>11770380Probably they thought that it was cheaper to show Arnie in the present than a full arc in the future like Salvation.The Slater one really is the Terminator size, not Robocop. At least you can use him as another T-800 Arnie.Kinda weird that they always choose to make Robocop smaller. I guess because Robocop has a policecar and the size makes it better for vehicles.
>>11770399Maybe so, I can only imagine the prdoucers on T3 didnt want to venture far from the proven formula either. At this point I think the only companies to release all these characters in the same scale are the boutique collector ones. NECA, Super7, Hot Toys. Back in the day they just werent thinking about cross compatibility.
>>11770386Honestly thats besides Masters of the Universe the only time i know of mold reuse between series. I wasnt aware of the Humvee reuse till this thread.
>>11770406The Humvee reuse really was an awesome discovery. There's this old 90's scifi series called "space precinct" and I always thought the mainvehicle would have been a perfect fit for Robo. I know the Alpha Commando series tinkered with the idea of Robo waking up in the far future, but the vehicles didnt look as cool.Alpha Commando also made me realize Robocop desperately needs a rogue's gallery. Once Boddicker, Caine, and OCP are out of the picture he's stuck battling dummies like Pudface or getting shipped out to afghanistan lol
>>11770396I would show Murphy is the heavy hitter and 2014 Robocop is the infiltrating, ninjaesque character.>Chappie and BloodshotNever saw those movies
>>11770419You're not missing much. Just look up the action scenes on youtube if you're curious. They're both the epitome of "sunday movies".
>>11770415That Police Cruiser really fits. And didnt knew about Alpha Commando cartoon.You are right with the Rogues. I can only name Cain and ED-209 as the villians. I watched 1-3, 2014, some tv and cartoon episodes.
>>11770426>FlakThats what i meant. Thanks for your good Robocop knowledge.
>>11770447Alpha Commando is probably the wildest they got with the franchise by far. They wake Robo up in the distant future of 2030. Delta City was realized to roaring success, but everything has become a blade runner-esque urban dystopia. Apparently it shared alot of talent with that original sunbow/marvel ultra police cartoon but it's very tonally distinct. Where it loses me is giving Robo Inspector Gadget styled gimmicks. He's already facing off against a militant silicon valley analogue out to take the city for themselves. That would have been enough for me, but they really hamfist the batman gimmicks into him. It's surprisingly more lighthearted than the sunbow cartoon somehow despite the premise. Robocop 3 really set the tone for the future of the franchise in a kind of depressing way. Prime Directives tried changing that, but the results are a little messy. It's closer in line with the first two films but you can tell they had zero budget and alot of the characters feel like recolors of past foes. >>11770452Alot of the tie-in comics for these properties regularly came up with goofy ideas like that. The one spikey super-terminator from darkhorse comes to mind aswell. It's a shame darkhorse never attempted to produce a comic for the kenner toys because man, Kromium is right there waiting for the spotlight!
>>11770536Still Alpha Commando dont sound that bad. Just the typical late 90s cartoon.I dont mind his Gadgets, since that is kinda a logic conclusion to a robot body.
>>11770777It's ok, if a bit generic. I'm not against the gadgets perse, but the way they're implemented is so lazy. Robocop demands a certain showcase of force. Giving him telescopic arms or a flash-light accessory can be a little underwhelming. If it was big guns, a giant chainsaw, some sort of giant pair of the jaws of life, etc I wouldnt complain.
I was on a madball kick for a few weeks there and somehow didnt think to cross these streams even after doing a terminator version.
I managed to acquire another Toy Island variant recently. The two on the left are both figures that (from my understanding) were both released around RoboCop 3 and the one on the right being from The Series and arguably the best in terms of sculpt and not having the weird light-up beeping gimmick, though he still retains the red visor. Personally I'm not a fan of the removable helmet on any of the figures, so sculpted helmets are big plus for me.Speaking of sculpts the far left figure is odd in that at a glance it definitely reads as Robo, but when you look closely you realise all of the details and proportions are way out of whack, and they all have a personal pet peeve of mine that the top of Robo's shoulders are in line with the top of the torso and not sitting above like they're supposed to, it's a minor gripe but it does bug me a little. Are there any other variants, beyond just different accessory pairings, in this scale that I should look for?Also side note, absolutely do not use isopropyl alcohol to clean these figures, I got the middle figure secondhand and it was very dirty when I got it, so I gave it a careful clean with slightly wetted toothbrush, then when to disinfect it with the alcohol and it IMMEDIATELY liquefied the black paint. Fortunately I didn't rub it all off, and it seems to have dried fine again, but I could have stripped it bare in seconds if I hadn't paid attention.
This concept predates my terminator one from the previous thread by a number of years. Back in the day alot of customizers got alot of mileage out of the 2008 Iron Monger figure. For the longest time I thought the design lent itself well to Robo. Maybe some terrorists raided the Delta City militia armory and made off with the Robo-Tank. Now Robo has to suit up in this thing to take them down.
>>11771347Oh what a surprise, I got a new addition to my collection in just today too. To answer your question first, I'm not aware of any others. Toy Island definitely made the most of the license while they had it. All I can point you to now are the power glow and rescue figures. The power glow releases were made of translucent plastics, festured lights and sounds, and came in blue, yellow, and red. The rescue figures were similar but came in red, white, and blue and were themed to various tasks like firefighting or space exploration. The soma knock offs probably scale with both Kenner and Toy Island's releases btw, just off looks alone this guy is around 4.5'. I will also note how much I agree with you on the removable helmet point. Alot of kenner's efforts look so pinheaded because of that choice. If they were going to do it, it should have been limited to just one figure not the entire line. You get some wonky proportions on the light up figures too. All in all that third Robo on the right really does look the best.
Reposting the above pic in the hopes it doesnt come out sideways this time
>>11771355From my limited research (it is insane how little there is in the way of cataloguing for RoboCop toys), there appears to be one more variant which is the more detailed figure, but with V-hips and no knee articulation. So that's gonna be my next figure to track down.I'm also gonna hunt for the Alpha Commando figure, I think it's funny that the figure/design that is most stylised of RoboCop seems to look the most accurate in terms of catching his essence.I'm probably gonna stay away from the Power Glow figures because I don't like translucent plastic due to the inherent fragility, and the Special Forces figures add too much to the design that he starts looking like generic space warrior type figures, which is going to be a relief for my wallet.>I got a new addition to my collection in just today too.What did you get, or was it this dude >>11771356?
>>11771417I should mention those toy islans molds were heavily bootlegged into the early 2000's. So it's something to remain aware of it. With how minor the changes are, perhaps these were factory rejects or something.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6-X82GN5M&t=465s&pp=0gcJCd8KAYcqIYzvThe Alpha Commando toys turn up regularly on ebay, but are often incomplete sadly. I suspect they're not as desireable as the older toys because of how stylized and oversized they are. They scale best with Coleco Rambo and even modern NECA stuff than they do the toys of their day. Staying away from the later toy ilsand variants is an understandable choice in anycase. I will say they are kind of fun, it just sucks how infrequently they crop up.Also yeah it was in fact the Soma Sonic Ranger! They're really cheap even now. I payed a little more for that one since it had nicer colors. The others are alot wilder with their palettesmor just crib MMPR outright. You can stock up on a ton of the ranger ones for peanuts even now. The kne thing that does suck however is how many I see with corroded battery hatches. Even the one I got a hold of was no exception. I did clean him up before that pic a fair bit so here's hoping those contacts still work.
>>11771424>So it's something to remain aware of it.Well going off that video it looks like the bootlegs are really easy to spot. Depending on pricing, I wonder if it would be worth tracking one down purely to replace the arm that is always missing on legit copies, and also a new Auto-9. A simple dye job would probably correct it to the more accurate black, or at least dark enough that it passes.
>>11771503I'd say it is. You dont often see parts lots for these guys, scalping the incomplete figures to make one whole is the only real option you have otherwise.
>>11770946>telescopic arms or a flash-light accessoryBut makes the most sense. For search & rescue missions. >>11771326>>11771329Those are really cool. Didnt Madballs have some Predator heads?
>>11771349You mean a Robocop in a Hulkbuster armor? How about ED-260-Buster armor? Or ED-509?
>>11771727For whatever reason it just strikes me as a bit too silly in the cartoon. I suppose it has it's place in the toylines though. Batman's certainly gotten away with much more egregious examples. And that they did! From the now decade old KidRobot revival. It's a shame that effort didnt pan out further as it was one of the better ones in recent memory. Why they thought selling them exclusively through bestbuy and their online shop was a good idea I'll never know. >>11771736Pretty much yeah, although I'd want this one to come with all the bells and whistles. Articulated fingers, some sort of jetpack, a miniature nerf gun, etc. Packratstudios made a series of Robocop customs in the lead upto the 2014 remake which all made use of the Iron Man 2 concept figures. Those were a major inspiration on me for years.>How about ED-260-Buster armor? Or ED-509?Funnily enough one of the designers of the MMPR megazords did just that back in 2012.
>>11771744>as a bit too silly in the cartoon.You have a point.Thats a cool model kit. But i meant like Iron Man has an armor that withstands Hulk. So i meant your pic is a ED-260-Buster armor. Not an armor that uses one.
>>11771748Those are cool. Never knew or thought aboit model kits. And this additional kit reminds me of your pic >>11771349
>>11771872they did one of the cars.
>>11771868Only just realized I never posted pic related. Yeah dont get me wrong, If you can work it into an action figure without creating something too obtrusive I'm all for it.They certainly tried as much with the AC line and got pretty far by doing so. But when you see it in action on the actual cartoon it just sort of breaks my immersion. I can see Robocop using all the Ultra Police vehicles. I struggle to accept him transforming into a pogostick or a jackhammer. >So i meant your pic is a ED-260-Buster armor. Not an armor that uses one.Ah yeah I get you now. More or less it was yeah. Just something big and mean meant for category 5 disasters.>>11771872Man those got alot of use from customizers back in the day too. Really taking me back now.>>11771874By far the biggest letdown Rebootcop had was the lack of a cool car. I get the motorcycle was more marketable or whatever but he really needs a cruiser. It's more fun that way.
>>11771951Thanks. I wasnt so sure with the Madballs.>I struggle to accept him transforming into a pogostick or a jackhammer.Ok, thats really cartoonish.
>>11771951>him transforming into a pogostickBeing a pogostick is reserved for The Terminator.That being said I definitely get where you're coming from, watching the episodes sure it's definitely a lighter tone, but you can go along with it, until you hear "cable arm!" or "glue trap!" Fortunately those moments are fairly limited, what I think is really odd was the decision to make Murphy the guy that cracks bad puns and Nancy to play the straight man, I would have thought it'd be more obvious to have Robo be stoic and give him a sarcastic partner.
>>11772452So, there exist some Resistance fighters on pogosticks?
>>11772448I wish the average Madball thread would fare better on this board but there's just not much interest. Since 2010 we've had about 4 seperate revivals. They never really last unfortunately. Like I said Batman's certainly gotten away with sillier stuff, but rarely is it given screentime. Even Batman Unlimited tried to make the most of its sillier ideas (robot animal buddies, removable armor, mech suits, etc).>>11772452Man you can tell they really had high hopes for salvation off the merchandising alone. 7/11 slurpee cups with staction figures, apparrel, video games. The world is a worse place for it's failure. I feel the same way about alot of movies from that window of time. >what I think is really odd was the decision to make Murphy the guy that cracks bad puns and Nancy to play the straight man, I would have thought it'd be more obvious to have Robo be stoic and give him a sarcastic partner.I get the impression they knew the series was over the hill and so they tried to ape the most popular series at the time. Which were Spider-man, Power Rangers, and X-men. So you end up with this really campy tone in what should be a really grimdark setting. Reminds me of the old Mask cartoon in that respect. There's another cartoon tie in that couldnt settle on a tone. It's torn between BTAS, Spiderman TAS, and the buffet of spielberg cartoons.
>>11772537>Tactical pogostick brigadeJust the mental image of that is really something to gawk at
Y'know having mentioned Power Rangers a few times it still surprises me Haim Saban never attempted to localize Jiban or any of the other metal heroes beyond the Beetleborgs. Jiban was Japan's rebuttal to Robocop, and Robocop himself was in part inspired by an earlier toku hero in Gavan. Maybe he assumed Robo's hype was too far in the rearview to bother. That we never saw more significant western Robocop copycats is something that still surprises me.Tangentially related, I think the push for teen teams in subsequent ranger clones kind of killed their potential. I rewatched VR Troopers and Masked Rider last year, and in spite of the goofy additions to the latter, I found the solo hero format more interesting. Ryan Steel should have been *the* VR Trooper. The other two just dont add much.
>>11772645I wish someone'd do a straight dub of Jiban. I watched some of it on YouTube (Toei's official channel has it up in reasonable quality given the age) and it's great. I also like the angle of a tech hero fighting bio-monsters.
>>11773040>I also like the angle of a tech hero fighting bio-monsters.I like the angle because it feels almost like RoboCop in the Guyver universe.
>>11773040I also watched through it fairly recently. It's influence inspired me to come up with monsterous rogues for Robo in a similar vein. My thinking being the villains should be cool enough to sell on their own without the Robocop connection. I was tempted to share them sooner but the time just didnt seem right.
>>11773042That's a brilliant way of looking at Jiban! Frankly makes me want to see a crossover between the two now. I wont pretend for a second I know how the amazon entertainment suits operate, but if they're smart, they'll push Robo into the forefront next year in celebration of his 40th anniversary. A Robocop/Guyver manga could be one of many things to garner some hype with. Hopefully there's a toyline in the works too...
>>11772645I wouldnt say there are no cyborg or robotic heroes. But it seems that cops are not that beloved as a kids franchise. You get a cop character but not a kids cops show.My take is that you dont need to copy Robocop and just take the concept of cyborgs, robots and fighting villians.
>>11773383They're just not as big a deal as they used to be for whatever reason. I get the sense today's kids are bored by them if anything. Cowboys and policemen being barred from the toy aisles was a major loss too.
>>11773457>Cowboys and policemen being barred from the toy aislesSay what now?
Also RoboCop is now in the new COD Black Ops game. I don't play COD online so it doesn't mean anything for me, but it definitely feels like a soft launch to get kids familiar with who RoboCop is. Gonna be a bunch of 12 year olds at the dinner table talking about "they added some guy in armour called RoboCop to Black Ops, I've never heard of him but he looks cool" only for their dad to be putting RoboCop on for them that night.
>>11774357There's been an open secret in the toy industry for the last few decades that you cant cover cowboys or policemen in boys lines without pissing off parents groups. The last time we got either were the 90's. These days the only examples of either you'll see are Woody and the one paw patrol dog respectively.>>11774361The original three films, 90's tv series, and Prime Directives are all free on youtube and tubi aswell. They have been for a few months now if not a full on year. Amazon/MGM really wants to make a mimt off Robo. I just dont know if they have it in them to do a good job of it. I'd really enjoy some quality new Robocop though.
>>11774361At least they try to restart the Robocop franchise, whoever has the ights to him.
>>11774760>whoever has the ights to himAt this stage Amazon owns the rights.As I said earlier, hopefully it leans more toward Reacher than Rings of Power.
>>11776703Than Amazon should use the classic design. It is so iconic it still gets collector toys and statues. But the question are all series canonical to the movies?
>>11778306NTA but I've always chosen to believe Robocop canon is upto to particular fan. For as much as I dislike the third film and the first live action series, it's kind of cool to think you follow the same Robo from 1987 to Prime Directives. Really though I prioritize the first two movies over everything else.
Should we make a second thread? I've really enjoyed this one
>>11778306>But the question are all series canonical to the movies?Yes and no, there's sort of a soft canon between everything.Main canon is RoboCop 1, 2, 3then you have RoboCop 1 - The Animated series. It doesn't contradict much and you could just slot it in between RoboCop 1 and 2. Same goes for Alpha Commando where you can just place it some period of time after the filmsRoboCop The Series exists in an alternate reality where it follows on directly from the first film, but Robo's supporting cast are different people. He got partnered with Madigan instead of Lewis, for example the opening titles has Lewis' "Murphy, it's you" moment, but with Madigan saying "Murphy, it IS you" and instead of Metro West being commanded by Reed it's commanded by Parks (who is played by Blu Mankuma who voices Sgt. Reed in Alpha Commando).Prime Directives is set 10 years after the first film and ignores the events of 2 and 3, but it doesn't outright contradict them either so you can still keep them in your personal canon.
>>11778658I dont think we need one. Every to discuss is discussed already. What else is there to talk about? And it seems that you could make a /tv/ thread with what is left.You only could make a /KennerUniverse/ with inlcuding Aliens, Predator and Terminator.
>>11778917Sounds like a dumb thing to make them differ that much. I wonder why they did change those little but canon breaking things? With such things it is possible that it is a royalty thing. You just want to pay for the Robocop name license.Than Amazon probably just takes the movies, cartoon and make a tv new series.
>>11778989Well in terms of RoboCop The Series it most likely comes down to budget, because that way they don't have to pay fees for every single supporting character, but also it helps alleviate any confusion for viewers that have just seen the films, that way people aren't asking "how is Lewis back, she died in the last movie?" I remember for me as a kid thinking to myself "oh Madigan is his new partner."The creators of Prime Directives said that they chose a ten year gap to give themselves a little more creative room to tell the story.
>>11778658>>11778984This thread is only on page 7, so it's got a while before it dies, but when it gets to page 10 I might make an Alien, Predator, Terminator, RoboCop general (APTR or APRT? PART? RAPT?) where we can discuss everything. I really enjoy these threads, and also it gives us a chance to discuss the franchises better than on /tv/ where you can make a thread and it dies after a couple posts. The most successful RoboCop thread I've seen on /tv/ in a while just ended up being people thirsting after Nancy Allen.
>>11778995Good points. Just when it seems to be the same story elements, it feels weird to be some alternative reality.
>>11778999>Alien, Predator, Terminator, RoboCop general (APTR or APRT? PART? RAPT?)What about the release dates?Alien = 79, Robocop = 88, Terminator = 91, Predator = 94ARTP?
>>11779082That's a solid idea, I'm just trying to think what would work as an acronym where it forms a word you can say, like rapt or part, or PATR could be "patter."
>>11779090I would spell it ARTiP or AR-T-P. Part is just a weird word for a group or topic. Patter is a good way to spell it out loud. I would say /ARTP/ and /PATR/ are the best ones.
>>11779099/TRAP/? We've got a while before we hit page 10, so I made a strawpoll for us to work with.https://strawpoll.com/xVg71LQK6yr
>>11779121Thats nice, but too many chooces.
>>11778995>>11778989>>11778917If you want to have a laugh, the first four episodes of Robocop the series were re-edited into a direct to video movie in Argentina tited "Robocop 4". That still gets a snicker out of me because of how shameless it was. I'm sure whoever handled that release made a boatload of cash anyhow.>>11778999It kinda blows how many tangential toylines from that same window in time thematically pair well with these four franchises but fail to scale well across toylines. Chuck Norris Karate Kommandos and Coleco's Rambo lines would especially pair well with them if they werent so differently scaled. The Coleco Rambo line especially fascinates me as it's such a rabbit hole in it's own right. Solid form factor, great vehicles, awesome playsets, amazing accessories, plus that sectaurs connect but nobody's seemingly ever thought to scale them down or revisit the old cartoon for whatever reason. Likewise, there's a pretty golden custom/crossover opportunity there with Commando nobody's tinkered with. Diamond Tots made these MOTU styled John Matrix figures, and just off looks alone I can tell that head would scale perfectly with the Forces of Freedom bodies. Jocsa famously repackaged the Kenner power arm T-800 with the Coleco Rambo, but I just know the Matrix kitbash would have looked alot better. I've also had this idea for a Solid Snake-esque Stealth Suit Rambo. Pop him on a Zak body and deck him out with all sort of military gear, it'd look perfect. Anyways I'm rambling now. Again, awesome thread.
>>11779121>>11779249I voted for RAPT since I thought itmsounded the coolest
>>11779323Did Coleco try to make their own GI Joe line? Never knew that a Rambo toyline existed.
>>11779453I could see that Rambo is in the same universe as Predator. But thats maybe just because the soldier in a forrest fibe.
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Robocop still is valid. Found some block toys.
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If you do a revival, you probably need to plan to reuse molds. And you need Robocop variants since he is the one character, everyone buys and you need one for several waves.
>>11779453Rambo became their attempt at a Gi Joe competitor. It was a tie in to the Force of Freedom cartoon. For a number of reasons the series was persecuted by parents groups in America and Britain, thankfully the toys still sold decently. In south america the cartoon never ran into any issue with parents, so the line was an even bigger success. They had Rambo luchador stage shows and all sort of exclusive releases too. FoF Rambo's characterization being the departure that it is from the movies, it makes me wish we saw more from that continuity. He's basically Captain America in the show. >>11779454You reminded me I drew a Rambo vs Predator pic some years ago. I should dig that out. Hell the NECA Preds might scale with the Coleco figures. I remember one /toy/ anon paired his NECA Rambo with the 6X6 defender.Should the Last Action Hero and Demolition Man lines be honorary inductions to the RAPT line up? >>11779466The lack of minifigs in the Cobi sets really killed my enthusiasm for these sets
>>11779474I have a pretty extensive list of variant ideas. Not just straight repaints but variously themed Robocop alts.
>>11779249>too many chooces.I know, it's literally every combination of the four letters, but I thought it was better to cover every possible option and let people disregard most of them, rather than making the decision for everyone.
>>11779536>Rambo vs ParentsWhen Rambo came out, there was already a anti-war movement. I know that this cartoon exists but never remember watching it or even if they did some reruns after 1990 somewhere. But i can see that parents dont like their kids to watch soldier stuff thats linked to a nrutal movie like Rambo.>Rambo vs Predator pic Do that. Those pics are always great.>The lack of minifigs in the Cobi sets really killed my enthusiasm for these setsAre those Cobi? I think thats BlueBrixx but i dont know if they licensed it from Cobi.
>>11779536>Last Action Hero and Demolition ManI wouldnt include it. I wouldnt include Rambo neither. Keep it RAPT, because those are Kenner toys.Honorary toy lines like Rambo, Last Action Hero and Demolition Man can be mentioned but they dont bring much to Robocop.
>>11779538Than post them. Lets discuss how to start a toyline.I can think of two body molds for Robocop. One standard, hard plastic with back holes for various backpacks or add-ons. Than i would make a body mold that is hollow with a back-button for action features like Quick-Draw pistol hand.Like your ideas and the old toys had, two sets of arms. One solid, pistol holding and the other with exchangable hands/lower arms.
>>11779536>>11779873I am so fucking sick of parents groups getting their collective panties in a wad over the most inane shit. Boys like guns and explosions and cool vehicles and fighting, that doesn't mean that they're going to grow up into murdering psychos. If they do it was probably because you're so neglectful as a parent that you decided to lobby against a cartoon rather than have a discussion with your child about their interests and steer them toward thoughtful reflection on the consequences of violence as they got older. I mean shit the original Rambo movie is an anti-war film.>Should the Last Action Hero and Demolition Man lines be honorary inductions to the RAPT line up?I don't see why not. The main RAPT quartet were the foundation of my childhood film experience, but they definitely have connections to other franchises Last Action Hero is obviously Schwarzenegger, and you can't consider Arnie's action career without mentioning Stallone, it all ties together and also allows for discussion about lesser talked-about lines. So RAPT is kind of a catch all for general action/sci-fi movies toylines. I guess you could say it would have everything "RAPT up."
>>11779873I'll dig out the Rambo vs Predator pic later today. Frankly the cartoon is really underrated. Maybe I'm biased being a Rambo fan, but I enjoy it alot more than Gi Joe, and I like Gi Joe a fair bit too.Also yeah you're right. Odd I could have sworn Cobi had the rights. I'll repost my Lego Robocop design later too.I had to redraw these two because the original concepts were too rough to share on their own.
>>11779876I can respect that. Just wanted to be sure. Are there any other compatible lines worth mentioning? Gi Joe Extreme feels like the last one that fits the mold.
>>11779879That's a great start really. Not that far off from what I had in mind. The only other alternative pieces I'd throw in the mix aside from alternate arm attachments and accessories would be different legs. You'd have a standard static pair, a thigh designed to feature the springloaded gun holster, and maybe a mirror of it intended for Cable if we decide on releasing him down the road. Different heads would be important too. I'd rather just release a Robocop sans helmet than do the removable helmet thing again. We could design the helmeted heads in such a way that battle damged or other alternate domes could be easily popped and swapped though.
>>11779882Thankfully it's sort of died off in recent years, but then again, so too have action movies and cartoons. Vidya cant be compromised because of all the vocal defenders it has. Neglectful parents really are to blame for 90% of society's problems in anycase.Going off your reply, you'll like the O-ring Arnie and Stallones I came up with. I mentioned licensing their likenesses earlier in the thread for a reason.
Presenting Action Arnold and GI. StalloneThe point of this line would be bypassing additional likeness/copyright fees by just popping their heads onto a slew of different bucks. Boxers, soldiers, spacemen, etc. I even had one idea to release a Stallone figure dressed in the T2 T800 digs as a nod to the Last Action Hero gag.
Reposting this little guy. I have the OC Robocop rogues ready to show off too but this is probably more ontopic
>>11780102Robocop really works as a Lego minifigure. Nice art.
>>11779882Honestly it can mean that your kid grows up as a weapon waving nutjob.We see that in South America, Russia and Africa were kids grow up with violance and are violent as adults. Or how regimes like Nazi Germany or Russia use that kind of stuff to form kids into soldiers.The problem is that producers should know how they make acceptable action cartoon for kids and parents shouldnt kids grow up unattended.But i agree that those parents group are over reacting and kinda only go the easiest by only addressing one point of many.>original Rambo movie is an anti-war film.The action part is overwriting that. Kinda like Starship Troopers were an anti-war movie too but people only remember or talk about the fights with the bugs.
>>11780032>>11780034Those are cool.>>11780034Mentioning is ok, i just wouldnt automatical include the other toy series. Like including them in the thread opening text. Maybe as molds or designs that could work for Robocop.
>>11780097Cool. This just illustrates how this works because of the first movies.>>11780100What do you mean with popping the heads on different slews? By having a head that looks like Arnold but on a sailor, you dont need to pay Terminator rights and for Arnolds likeness?
>>11780032>>11780034Forgot:Those are really cool alternate versions of Robocop. What if pirates never vanished.
>>11780037Good idea with the action gimmick legs. The gun holster seems very tricky if it isnt a bigger size. I would say the removable helmet is a good idea, gives you alot of options and swappable accessoire.I like the battle damage idea. Than i would say maybe a body mold were you can swap the damaged parts. Maybe removable chest or leg parts. Than you give Robocop a special SWAT chest. Maybe normal upper leg part can be taken off, replaced by open gun holster or battledameged.
>>11780237I'm really bullish on a Robocop construction line. Not just brick builds but some bionicle and model kit stuff too. I wish the knock off minifigs added in the armor instead of just painting everything on. >>11780254>>11780264Glad you guys enjoyed the art. Yeah I wouldnt necessarily want to expand the scope of RAPT, more so just make a note of lines that'd fit in with them. Sort of how vintage Star Wars product ushered in a wave of 5 poa 3/4 inch sci-fi action figures.>What do you mean with popping the heads on different slews? By having a head that looks like Arnold but on a sailor, you dont need to pay Terminator rights and for Arnolds likenessYes exactly! Make a soldier body, put an Arnold head on there, sell it as a "soldier" Arnold instead of John Matrix. Rinse and repeat with both actors.Something else I thought alot was how many Arnold and Stallone characters would have paired together well. Cobra Cobretti and Ivan Danko as a buddy cop duo, John Matrix and John Rambo (although I guess Contra did this), Ben Richards and Judge Dredd, etc.>>11780265I always thought Robocop had as much versatility as Batman. Having grown up with both it always confused me why they didnt make weirder Robocop variants the same way Kenner handled Batman ones. So with a new Robocop line I'd want to do just that and cover the enter franchise upto this point too.
>>11780272Thanks!If a fullt operation spring loaded mechanism proved too clunky I suppose we could just settle for an opening hatch or something. What's important is that the gimmick works. As far as the helmet idea goes, the standard Robocop head would work like a lego minifigure's. All that would be sculpted is Murphy's mouth and cheeks. Removs the helmet and all you'd find is a peg on which the other helmet variations can fit, be it battle damaged or one of the silly variants I already shared. >Than i would say maybe a body mold were you can swap the damaged parts. Maybe removable chest or leg parts. Than you give Robocop a special SWAT chestI think Toy Island did something similar back in the day. I'm open to the option. In the long run you'd save alot in tooling using that body. Swap out the cover and you can make him look like anything from a ninja to an astronaut.
>>11780247>Honestly it can mean that your kid grows up as a weapon waving nutjob.>We see that in South America, Russia and Africa were kids grow up with violance and are violent as adults.We see that with REAL violence, numerous studies have shown that fictional violence does not lead to violent behaviour as an adult.
I have a good picture to start the RAPT general. Are we happy with cementing that as the name?
>>11780717Drawfag here. I'm pretty content with it.
>>11780765And it's live.>>11780792
>>11780793A little bit early?
>>11780370>Make a soldier body, put an Arnold head on there, sell it as a "soldier" Arnold instead of John Matrix.Thats quite clever. I dont know if you can make the face that generic that Arnold or Sylvester cant claim their likeness.
>>11780370As a robot, it is nearly logical to give him body modifications to fit a certain situation. And the PowerGlow series >>11759952 leaned into that.
>>11780617Which isnt true.I found several articles and studies that it 8mpacts kids.https://www.commonsensemedia.org/articles/whats-the-impact-of-media-and-screen-violence-on-children>Raise their levels of fear, anxiety, depression, and other mental health issues>Desensitize them to the pain and suffering of others>Increase the chances of them acting aggressivelyKI gives me >Longitudinal Studies (Huesmann & Eron): Showed that early childhood exposure to media violence predicted adult aggressive behavior.
>>11780830Andwww.apa.org/topics/video-games/violence-harmful-effectsNames that too.
>>11780372Looking at head design, you could give him a face under the swappable helmet.But a peg for the helmet would work too and makes the toy cheaper to design and produce.I dont know if you could use a ninja chest for Robocop. But that would make a good April Fools or Halloween weapon pack where you could put a Ninja, Pirate or Cowboy chest as a costume thing.
