Are you happy that Chadimus Prime is going to be next year’s Commander? Or are you a zoomer who wanted a Bayverse slop glup shitto who appeared in the background for half a second?Previous:>>11775800
HFGs were based actually
>Or are you a zoomer who wanted a Bayverse slop glup shitto who appeared in the background for half a second?Shots getting fired right out the gate with this thread. Can't say I disagree at all with the sentiment though.
Commanders are too big. Alice would be the ex-Core class, so I guess that would mean she'd be packaged with something else as a Deluxe.
>>11778100Rodimus has actual fans? Huh, learn something every day.
>>11778100>glup shittoIs this the new buzzword of the month?
>>11778129I always thought he was a good idea done wrong.
>>11778100Don't care about Rodimus, I can't think of a single bay that would warrant commander. I wish they gave mainline 2 commanders instead.
>>11778100So will SS86 Rodimus just be Kingdom Rodimus (maybe with some improvements) or a new mold?
>>11778145We dont know but I think It will be kingdom retooled since they seem to be phoning it in on SS
>>11778144Repaint of the Titans Return
Is that new studio series soundwave out yet? My desk needs some variety of decepticon superiority.
>>11778140No, it was flavor many months ago.
>tryptikek couldnt kill titan class>tidal flop couldnt kill titan classAt this rate only CEO class Chris Cocks could do it
>>11778140I love glup shitto's and I will defend their honor to my dying breath.>>11778141And this. It feels earned and satisfying when he claims the mantle of Prime in The Movie. Then he spends the entirety of S3 whining about how much he hates it and actively tries to shirk his responsibilities whenever the opportunity presents itself.
>>11778100I really want a new improved attempt at "evolution" Rodimus. It's not gonna happen though unfortunately
>>11778167Same, clearly the right way to handle the character even if they haven't quite nailed it yet.
>>11778167I want an Energon Rodimus. Truck with rocket was cool.
>optimus and rodimus get 2 commanders in the same decadeMagnus is next, idk which one it will be
>>11778205Guessing the next Magnus would be a mainline figure with the armor gimmick, hopefully a modified 86 optimus with armor.
>>11778100I unironically would have been more likely to buy an actual life-size Oreobot than *another* Commander class Rodimus Prime.
>>11778211I really like SS86 Magnus, but I'd gladly pick up another to finally get the white SS86 redeco.
>>11778223I remember hearing somewhere that Takara wanted to a retool of 86 Magnus with an inner robot. Let's see which one they end up doing first.
>>11778195Hell yeah, that was such a cool design.
>>11778100I have enough Rodimuses (Rodimi?) I really wish the Commander slot went to someone else.
>>11778113They're doing an Alice?
He needs a CHUG
>>11778100>Or are you a zoomer who wanted a Bayverse slop glup shittoThat's an awful lot of buzzwords to fit into one sentence.
>>11778100I would ask if they are retarded but I know the answer.All in one I could get for fun but slight remold? No
>>11778275what's wrong with the first Commander Rodimus (other than being somewhat slight for a Commander class)?
>>11778276Nothing, he's good
>>11778100Only 3rd party stuff matters anymore.Hasbro are a fucking joke with their prices now. 100+ for a voyager with hollowed out arms, legs, head and waist. Always missing shit so you then need to spend an extra 60-100 on a kit just to fix Hasbros mess. No option to buy the superior Takara version anymore that would fix these issues.The RARE instance you can seems limited now (Down syndrome lio convoy).For the price you end up paying in the end you might as well just buy masterpiece
>>11778286where the hell do you live where voyagers are $100 and 3rd party toys are a better deal?
>>11778266No. She is nobody.
>>11778286>>11778298He's right that Hasbro is way too expensive now for what you get, but 3rd party isn't better. You pay even more and the quality is totally up in the air, between a decent figure and something that flies apart as soon as you take it out of the box.Even worse, 3rd party people insist on mostly doing the same guys Hasbro does. You want a character Hasbro won't touch, good luck, they're on their umpteenth version of Devastator.
>>11778267We need more Pretenders in general.Throw in some action masters too.
>>11778312Nobody (3P, Hastak or even Funpub) wants to take a risk on "glup shitto" characters unless it's a very limited exclusive run and redeco or reuse of an existing mold.
>>11778316I want them all.>>11778266If you want a preview of SS Alive look no further than the Animorphs crossover line.
>>11778298>where the hell do you live where voyagers are $100This is the standard rrp for most voyagers from hasbro now anon. When was the last time you went to a store?Fuck even the studio series dinobots cost more than 100 and are shorter than what a voyager should be.
>>11778332>When was the last time you went to a store?Nta but 6 months ago, and I got SS86 Megatron for $55. What are you talking about?
>>11778332What the fuck are you even talking about? Voyagers aren't 100 bucks. The 86 dinobots are Leader Class and way bigger than modern Voyagers, and aren't 100 either. Are you on drugs or something?
>>11778129Hot Rod is one of the coolest G1 designs. Rodimus' altmode grows on you, I always see boomers call it a "winnebago" but from what I see, Winnebagos don't have giant exhausts sticking out or a cab that's a concept sportscar
>>11778099You know what you're right, it's one of the few Megatrons I've had that doesn't suck to transform and I should give it more credit for that.
>>11778335>you mean to tell me people post outlandish shit they know full well isn't true just for attention?>on MY 4chan?!Best just to ignore retards like that anon, there's no discourse to be had here.
>>11778100Oh shit, alright then. I was thinking of getting either Kingdom or POTP Rodimus but I might as well wait and see how this turns out.
>>11778100>Or are you a zoomer who wanted a Bayverse slop glup shitto who appeared in the background for half a second?Hi can I get uhhhhhhhh really big Demolishor?
>>11778342I want ANY Demolishor. It's crazy that he hasn't gotten an SS yet.
>>11778317please shut the fuck up, (you) farmer.
>>11778342Repaint might come sooner, I would love him as a titan or commander + Devcon.
>>11778312And seemingly no 3P wants to tackle chug stuff to cover missing characters either, so unless you want MP or Legends you're outta luck.
>>11778359>3P chugsWow, what a world that would be. Why isn't it this one?
>>11778312I hate how 3P has normalized $90 Legend sized figures. I get it's due to the engineering, but the size caps out how impressive it can be. I think Legends size is best when it's simple and fun if not necessarily high quality as a display piece, which is why I appreciated the last few years of Legends I don't need MP quality in a 4 inch figure. Back around 2018 I was getting MP sized 3P figures for around $90, it's insane to think how prices have more than doubled.
>>11778223I want a Delta Magnus/Powered Convoy deco
>>11778362Because we clearly are in hell
Combiner Dad is here to save the day!
>>11778359>>117783623P Classics scale is how 3P boomed, but since Hasbro seems to cover everything it makes it more of a risk to make a Classics scale figure only for Hasbro to make one in a year.
>>11778359>CHUG scaleLol>Make Megatron>Instantly out of scale with SS86 Prime
>>11778390>now you can sell leg upgrades
>>11778387his limb guys coming in 2027, 2028, and 2029....maybe.Walmart exclusive.
>>11778415Yay, I hope they all come with his signature chipped paint deco.
>>11778416Why does his visor have a nose?
>>11778416there’s barely any paint left on these and they still manage to fuck it up every time
>>11778418Yeah...my TFA Ratchet also had a big corner of his mouth unpainted and I'm just straight up returning it to avoid going through the maddening process of trying to find paint that matches. Hasbro's paint apps have always sucked shit, but it feels like they're somehow dropping the ball harder than usual lately.
>>11778417Because mistakes were made
>>11778424>Nexus Prime blackface scandal!
>>11778424Why couldnt it have been this Nexus instead of that fag with 3 seconds of screen time from One? When SS is right there?
>>11778453Because AotP Nexus is moreso pulling from the Binder of Revelation artwork
Hey, who threw this brick through my window?
>>11778456It is a sign. Become Brickman and beat up criminals.
>>11778456my brother in width!
>>11778335Put SS megatron next to Universe Hardhead and tell me megs is still voyager sized. Its another trick hasbro have done by downsizing the scale of the figures
>>11778455This? I wouldve taken them doing this design over the nexus we got. Still prefer the one that was actually a gestalt though.
>>11778460Yes, fatherI shall become a brick...
>>11778286SS86 Optimus is essentially a 2000s voyager with a giant box
>>11778477Post a single 2000s voyager with 86 Optimus levels of engineering from the genius transformation, matrix chamber, forwards butterfly, articulated hands and ankles.
>>11778483>Post a single 2000s voyager with 86 Optimus levels of engineering from the genius transformation, matrix chamber, forwards butterfly, articulated hands and ankles.How about a deluxe?>"ERM HE HAS NO MATRIX"Shit, you're right, better up the price by $80
>>11778483Half the voyagers from ROTF have more complex engineering than anything from SS86 lmao
We need combiner power now!
>>11778490I own that Sunstreaker and is not even close to 86 Prime in terms of engineering and parts count. You're retarded.
Megadad activated
>>11778456>Arise, Brixus Prime.
>>11778491All of that thick solid plastic, $20 price, not tied to an open box with string.Current Transformers look so cheap.
>>11778466Nobody said 86 Megatron is Voyager sized. And why do you mention Universe Hardhead instead of the original use of the mold, Onslaught (which I own). That was an Ultra class (Leader) and not a Voyager, by the way. I'm starting to believe you're not a shitposter but just clueless as fuck.And if you're trying to argue that size classes have been shrinking... We all know that, and it's beside the point. This all started with the 100 bucks voyager price nonsense.
>>11778504Open boxes aren't a thing anymore for mainline transformers. Also I hope you like that Bludgeon's threads melting the plastic.
>>117784152027 left arm and 2029 right leg will be walmart exclusives2028 left leg and 2029 right arm will be target exclusives
>>11778370I want frozen urine ultra magnus
>>11778517Dropped it fug
Kiss my combined metal ass!
>>11778500When this figure came out everyone was saying the body swap engineering was genius and people still say it was especially because it was never really done before until then. SS86 Optimus is only "mindblowing" to tourists and actual mouthbreathers. It's a good figure but it doesn't do anything inside and outside of HasTak that's spectacular or justifying of it's $90 markup, if you suggest otherwise you're a coping retard.>>11778507Ultras in 08 were Voyagers with lights and sounds. Just because 90% of this general were born yesterday doesn't mean everyone is
>>11778490Are you trying to fool yourself? Because you arent fooling me. A modern deluxe could have the same shit leg design and get clowned for it.
>>11778529You literally cannot fill that leg in because that cavity is for where the thighs go during transformation. Nobody complains about shit like that, they complain about modern deluxes just have hollow legs and thighs with thin plastic because hasbro were too cheap and lazy to cover the gap
>>11778508Oh no! I have to pay a whopping $5 for some protective coating form the hardware store, better go buy that shitty tarn remold. I've had my bludgeon for about 10 years and this has never happened.
>>11778532>downplaying a widely known and reported issue with bludgeon
>>11778456Didn't someone come up with a fan mode that looked a bit more... palatable?
>>11778456I kinda like it
>>11778540>downplaying how cheap and shitty modern transformers are
>>11778541This one? Honestly, you might think it looks better, but it's just the robot lying downThe real transformation does a lot to change shape
>>11778530>Nobody complains about shit like thatPeople absolutely do, all the fucking time
>>11778555You didn't even read what I said. Nobody complains about hollow areas for transformations genius. It's part of the engineering. It's when hollowness isn't part of the engineering and is used as a blatant crutch is when it's an issue.
>>11778560NTA but hollowness still sucks ass, I understand why it might be there but it might still look ugly when it's not covered, that's why people like things like flaps that hide the gap that fists fold into
Ironhide never skips leg day
>>11778567are this guy and ratchet supposed to be fembot versions or something?
>>11778567Why does he look so feminine? Just replace the face, and it's a woman.
>>11778523Dude, I've been collecting Transformers since Euro G1 and actually own all the toys you're referring to. And you still haven't addressed what started this conversation, the outlandish "voyager class are 100 bucks" nonsense. You obviously hate new transformers pricing/design/whatever and that's fine, but the conversation was never about that. You're beating a dead horse for no real reason.
>>11778551Lying down the robot is better than making it into a pretzel with wings on either side
>>11778580I wasn't the one who made that original post or that claim so why do I have to address it? The Sunstreaker is the only figure I mentioned. He asked me for figures that have intuitive transformations and were well articulated and we had a bunch of figures like that in the past. Even the Commander class, was supposed to be the equivalent to an old leader from back then too.
>>11778518>gps + translucent plasticlol
>>11778271that's basically everybody all the time now. I want off the ride.
>>11778491god damn that is a good toy.
>>11778622>gpsModern fans should be banned from using this term because they don't understand what it really is or how it actually works and just throw it around like retards. Same with "mold degradation".
>>11778491For a long time RotF Bludgeon was my favorite Transformer. Too bad his treads melted.
Too bad they wasted bludgeon on a tarn repaint instead of a modern rotf toy
>>1177847260$ no refunds
>>11778530>>11778560That's bullshit. People complain about hollowness regardless. Most recently it was Twin Mill.
>>11778649This guy was something else. It's even worse when compared to Bone Shaker, who has a very cool transformation.
>>11778622Where on that do you see swirly plastic with metallic flakes in it? I'll give you the translucent plastic part - that thing's gonna shatter anywhere where there's a metal piece connecting to a joint - but there's nothing on it that's just going to dissolve on its own like what happens with GPS.
Haslabs have been mostly obscure Japanese characters. What's an obscure western character they could do?
>>11778501what was the reasoning for him to be integrated with only superion's frame and not bruticus' and menasor's if he's meant to be like some gurren mecha that can make everything into a combinernot that well versed with transformers lore
>>11778675Titan-class Torca
>>11778675We have a few but so far, Haslabs have had animated media backing them. Obscure characters they could do from the western side:-Cyberverse Croaton or Iaconus-IDW has several unique Titan designs, plus their version of Thunderwing-Beast Wars had the triple combiners (though, they'll likely use their Japanese versions)-Beast Machines had the gigantic TMII Optimus with Megatron's head and the Grand Mal Japanese side still has most of the figures they'll likely pick for it.
>>11778675Sam's Club Omega Prime?Are there otherwise NA exclusive TFs that would warrant the Haslab treatment?
>>11778683That would be a Hasbro pulse mto figure.
>>11778675Generations Rescue Bots High TideLodestar + LightbrightVigilemTLK Dragonstorm (all 12 knights)IDW Thunderwing>>11778683I would kill for a Splendid Convoy redeco of haslab prime
>>11778686They want to retool the mold for splendid, not sure what they'll change.
The tolerances are all fucked on these two, every joint is either too tight or too loose. They removed the rubber parts from Weirdwolf, but now that it's hard plastic Carnivac's back won't open without forcing it. Very disappointing set.
>>11778683I don't understand why people like this yellow prime.
>>11778696paletteswaps are fun
>>11778696Literally just because funpub made it a fembot.
>>11778700But it's not even a proper paletteswap, the red chrome chest is sticking out.
>>11778702that part was on a different part of the palette, that's the brilliant part!
>>11778675If they do Gigatron as a Haslab like Fire Convoy I'd have a coronary.
>>11778710His head horn is not nearly as exaggerated as that
>>11778683They shouldve never locked a main series optimus prime in the haslab vault. And then also made it out of scale and with shit qc.
>>11778715what is that japanese trope you see sometimes of like, bat-wingy-elephanty-ears-plus-a-central-horn? there's a kaiju like that, there's definitely some other stuff..
>>11778710With current figure development, he'd need to be a Nu-Titan since he's huge in the show. Japan really liked their giant destroy leaders.
>>11778675Thunderclash, so he won't be a half assed Motormaster repaint and we can get his proper tower of doom trailer.
>>11778682There's a rumor Magnaboss is coming in 2027 in the mainline.
>>11778696On my shelf it's Sentinel Prime
>>11778733That one was debunked by the leaker, JTprime says people were reading way too much in his clues, Magnaboss was not one of those clues.
>>11778738A separate leaker was the one who suggested Magnaboss was coming.
>>11778726Thunder Clash really deserves a new figure, the robot needs articulation and it would be interesting but probably disappointing to see how modern engineers tackle his cab's gimmicks. Also, I want to see if Hasbro would bother to release Machine Wars Optimus Prime from him.
>>11778710>>11778719If he was to scale with Omega he probably would need to be Titan, not huge huge, but bigger than Commander. I would say Rail Racer could be Haslab, if theres anyone else from RID.
>>11778587It feels a lot less fun though
>>11778748All the RID combiners are gigantic, even Omega Prime looks like a manlet next to them. For scale, God Fire Convoy and Gigantron are about half their height and the components are about the same size as them.Also, while Gigatron is the same size as God Fire Convoy, he's pretty bulky. Unlike GFC, a Haslab for him wouldn't have anything enticing to add, he doesn't have a plethora of weapons, or accesories they could add. Sure, they could give him another throne because Japan sure loved to give their leaders one, but that's pretty much it.
>>11778456This guy is so dissapointing. It's like the designer just gave up. Retooling Onslaught should have been the way to go, but they just had to base the design on One and Covenant, despite his most famous version being the funpub variant..
>>11778748>If he was to scale with OmegaOmega is grossly oversized and shouldn't be what anything's scale is based on. Using Sky-Byte, Scourge and deluxe cars as a base he would be almost exactly Jetfire/Combiner frame sized. And despite having 10 "modes" his engineering is probably simpler than any of them.
>>11778739Screenshot? Because even so I don't believe Magnaboss is coming next year. None of the individual parts, Prowl, Ironhide or Silverbolt are in the listings and a Commander is out of question. Magmatron was able to get by being a Commander because his individual components each don't have a robot mode.
>>11778695Works on my PC - but variable QC is what I've come to expect from Hasbro these days, sadly.
>>11778740I mean at this point he'll probably just be an Armada Prime retool
>>11778769>Omega is grossly oversized and shouldn't be what anything's scale is based on.But he's what we have now. Having an RID set of figures without Optimus doesn't make a ton of sense. Though they don't seem to be in any hurry for more RID, so probably doesn't matter all that much right now.
Oh no, he's hot!
>>11778790Nice, so I guess the new stuff is all built into the sled
>>11778790Even if I never buy this I'm definitely interested.
>>11778790Is there any if the original toy design in this?
>>11778796Plenty, the new parts are on the sled, you could recreate the original transformation by taking it off.
>>11778790Original face in the chest
>>11778797The arms look very different too.
>>11778791I'd be more interested in David Bowie Prime if the mold wasn't obnoxiously big, Rodimus isn't even a Micromaster anymore which makes the micromaster trailer is way too big for actual micromaster. It's like they took what was obviously a commander and just hit ×1.5 in CAD.
>>11778798Well, I assume you can still use it like the original toy, looks like everything new is in the Sled
>>11778797No you can't, the Van didn't have actual side windows.
>>11778799The arms are on the sledI'm sure the original arms are still on the figure, as you can see his doors are still there
>>11778791The fake of all Optimus Primes are to become black.
>>11778795same. Ironhide is infamous. I've always said Diaclone should have been adapted intact, because transforming mechs are fun, and they don't HAVE to be cohesive robots, just battle platforms. Like how not every sentai needs giant robots, sometimes they just have tactical vehicles or whatever. But the journey it took where they TRIED to make you believe these are living robots, despite... that.. is fascinating.
>>11778808It's kind of crazy in a way, since Ironhide without a pilot removes like the entire POINT of his play value. He's just a wonky emaciated weirdo. It'd be like if they just threw the Aliens Powerloader into the line and said it was its own guy.
>>11778804what are you basing all this on?
Ironhide could have been Sparkplug's tool van or something turned into a non-sentient battle platform robot and the Witwickys could have used him as a battle platform. Would have kept the spirit of the toy without having to make all the other robots act as mechs too.
>>11778817My eyes, of which I can see and also owning the original
>>11778818You'd think takara wouldve had mech suits in there sooner, easy way to instantly make humans useful. I guess it finally came around in masterforce.
>>11778818see I like that for the same reason I like Diaclone's variety. VARIETY, man. It's silly that, just because you're selling toys, that every single thing in the show has to be the same... kind of thing.It's like when you look at the Justice League Unlimited and realize 99% of them are 'action-figure-shaped' and it's like really? Not a single.. Idunno, dinosaur? sentient blob? 13 foot tall demigod with six arms? but even moreso for something about aliens or mutants or whatever. It provides a LOT of spice if you allow the Turtles to fight someone other than other mutants, and they do. Transformers Animated got a lot of points with me for having different kinds of villains besides 'a new Decepticon so we can sell a new toy'
>>11778777>The point>Your headHim existing doesn't = using him as the reference point for scaling. The God Fire Convoy combination is a super mode that was oversized in the animation to look even awesomer. At least use regular Fire Convoy as a reference point if you need to at all.
>>11778823>Transformers Animated got a lot of points with me for having different kinds of villains besides 'a new Decepticon so we can sell a new toy'That was the part everyone hated the most about that show.
>>11778825Look, were they always good? No. were they as good as new decepticons? Very no. but they TRIED. it was an interesting idea, and it made the setting feel a lot more real, which is ironic since it's by far the cartooniest transformers other than, like, rescue bots or whatever. (is there a Transformers Babies yet? Because if not, that's a massively untapped bit of potential)
>>11778766The scale issue is why I bought MMC Ruination.I'm going to try and track down the original 3 autobot brothers and the predacons. I hope Rail Racer is a haslab at some point.
>>11778830Fuck I forgot to mention I also got Fans Hobby Archenemy too
>>11778830this guy has the opposite problem of that recent one with the stubby legs.your shouldn't be able to pull your knees up past your collarbones, but you should sure as fuck not be able to knee your own navel either.
>>11778834>your shouldn't be able to pull your knees up past your collarbonesSorry you can't do that
>>11778830Every time I see this, I'm reminded how much it sucks that we'll only ever get Ruination as a Bruticus repaint, which means we'll never get a good modern Ruination that retains his canon scramble ability. I don't need Bruticus to be able to do it, but there's no point in my eyes in getting Ruination if he can't do it.
>>11778841>Every time I see this, I'm reminded how much it sucks that we'll only ever get Ruination as a Bruticus repaintAnon, I...
>>11778832Any comparison photos with this guy and haslab fire convoy?
I know this is a weird post, but anyone here got both the MPG Optimus and 86 Prime? Can 86 Prime use the accesories well?
>>11778848I doubt they’ll look right togetherHe’s pretty big
>>11778791Any guesses to how much she'll be? G2 Menasor was 30k yen so I'm guessing it'll be around that price, but shipping will be killer.
>>11778921Well Star Prime was 38k yen on release so make of that what you will
>>11778834>your shouldn't be able to pull your knees up past your collarbonesAre your hips broken or something?
>>11778935So likely more around 40k, ouch.
>>11778832I hate this guy's truck mode and blocky forearms
>>11778970At least his shoulder pauldrons move.
>>11778819I own the original too and show me that second set of arms in the pic
Major Wild King announcement?
>>11778841Nah man, they're gonna milk this new Bruticus for all it's worth: G2, Ruination, Battle Gaia, all of the repaints.
>>11778664Clear plastic fragility is a meme. Most of the problems from clear plastic breaking are less about the it's use and more about fucked tolerances flexing the plastic which is what actually causes the cracks in the first place
>>11779057I see.It isn't fragile, but if force is applied it breaks easily.Got it.
>>11779047I'm surprised a lorefag like Sakamoto hasn't come up with sometiing to tie together Bruticus and all his repaints.
>>11779089Clearly we found someone who doesn't understand how the square peg round hole analogy
favorite cancelled figures? I couldn't give a fuck about the show but I'm sad this big lug will never see the light of day
>>11778970We know. You bring it up every time someone has posted about it for the past ten years.
>>11778848These boys are massive compared to mainline hasbro.
>>11779089it's fragile if you try to break it, yeahbut you should be fine if you're a big boy
>>11779136for you
If they plan on doing more 4 packs what are some recolors you'd like to see?>Hate Plague set with a silver Optimus, and red Hotrod (Can't think of who else could be painted red)>"The Killing Jar" recolors
>>11779146Magnus will have to be a separate figure, but this episode had some interesting recolors.
>>11779110I'm still mad Soundwave never got a toy in the 2006 Classics line and that it took him until fucking 2020 to get any kind of real CHUG figure that wasn't just cybertronian shit or gimmicky headmaster garbage.
>>11779153>Aaron Archer: you don't understand, Soundwave needs to show he has sound gimmicks [farts out a stealth bomber Soundwave], kids need to know Soundwave = sounds [brraap Soundwave as a missile truck]. There HAS to be sound!!
>>11779155The stealth bomber makes sense. Laserbeak comes out of the compartment the bomb would typically be stored in. Also it's a reinterpretation of the character so it doesn't matter. Machine Wars was the same although that was based on an already existing mold
>>11779155Is this about how the trunk details look like a sound system? That seems like a weird thing to complain about.
How come some figures dont come out to September on bbts but I see them pop up on Amazon or Walmart randomly
>>11779168Amazon likes to toy with our emotionsWalmart is just retarded
>>11779166No, it was Archer's big reason for rejecting any Soundwave for Classics.
>>11779174An MRAP with a crowd-dispersal cannon would've worked and been on-theme" using sound to attack.
>>11779146Glyph, Tapout, Fractal and Packrat
Other half of the order arrived. Swerve, Nexus Prime, and Rat Shit.Might headcanon Nexus Prime as the Prime who controls space and time since I never liked the "make them the inventor of a toy gimmick" thing.
>>11779110Beast Wars UnicronAll of TranstechAll of the unmade Animated toys/ Characters especially Devastator with BulkheadBinaltech BlackarachniaUniverse Toxitron and Menasor (from Thunderclash)Kingdom Polar Claw
>>11779047Let's also not forget the inevitable toy deco set.
>>11779252>Might headcanon Nexus Prime as the Prime who controls space and timeThen what will Vector Prime do?
>>11779259Strongbad emails. I'll even equip him with Blitzwing's hulk hands.
>>11779047They'll do Ruination at most and then just redo G1 Bruticus again but in Studio Series. We're 4 years in and Hasbro hasn't even repainted Menasor more than once.
>>11779267Bruticus and Devastator are way more popular than Menasor. Also what other decos does Menasor have besides G2 so I can see why he's a low priority for Hasbro.
>>11779047Look at the limited number of repaints we have had for commander class figures. Menasor for example only had the G2 repaint like four years after his debut. The idea of them doing every remold/redeco possible like it was CW is a thing of the past.
>>11779274Even in CW we never even got a repaint of Devastator beyond that shitty chromed SDCC exclusive.
>>11779274The problem is that a lot of repaints are usually store exclusives and companies barely stock Commanders now, so I seriously doubt they’ll want exclusive ones they know are probably going to shelfwarm
>>11779284>stock the rest of the combiner group>dont stock motormaster/onslaught/etc
G1 titan Overlord the size of star convoy please. Would be such a chonky toy
>>11779309You’ll get your>spins wheelMagmatron-sized Commander and like it
>>11779146i LOVE those Wreck Gar colors!but if they make one it will be an overpriced america only release of limited version...so...whatever
>>11779309That's exactly what I want.
>>11779110The Cosmos from Origins Bee still hurtsWould have been galaxies better than that chonk
>>11779357Slopmos.
>>11779251Please..
>>11779110Is Cosmos definitely canceled?
>>11779357Robot mode is so inaccurate though
>>11779395Unconfirmed but Earthspark already ended and he still hasn't come out. So unless they delayed him for a mainline release, he got quietly cancelled.
Sucks that earthspark Liege probably won’t ever get a toy, he was the only good design from that show
>>11778675>>11778675The Scrimblo Bimblo-est Glup Shitto. No one but me would buy him and that would be really funny.
>>11779401I liked Soundwave's design.
earthshart doesnt even deserve the toys they got
>>11779411It was nice of Earthspark to leave his face unpainted for Hasbro.
Why did Hasbro base the Decepticon logo on Soundwave's face and then not make his mold the leader?
>>11779449Uncharismatic
>>11779411it fucking sucks that the one earthspark toy that legitimately looks really cool was released exclusively in like 3 stores and nowhere else
>>11779399I assume he'll pop up randomly or in the authentics line.
>>11779449Why did Hasbro base the Autobot logo on Prowl's face and then not make his mold the leader?
>>11779110Same vibes.
>>11779464The Autobot logo is Ironhide's face
Remember when Prowl was cool and then the comics made up a worse personality for him, causing people to retroactively judge all Prowls for that ones behavior? And now those hack writers are getting toys based on their less than stellar contributions to the franchise.
>>11779452Hey, nobody calls Soundwave unchrasimatic!
>>11779464His toy was too small
>>11779449Megatron turned into a GUN. He was PURE DEATH
>>11779470The Autobot logo was based on a toy with no head?
>>11779476>Remember when Prowl was coolNo.
>>11779481except most can tank megatrons shots...
>>11779492No, he killed them all.
>>11779476When wad Prowl cool? He was just a generic Autobot in Sunbow and he only stood out near the end of the Marvel US run where he was trying to be the voice of reason to Grimlock.
>>11778949your knees go up to your chest, anon
>>11779089I think what anon means is it's like everyone saying 'spider silk is stronger than steel' then being surprised when a spider silk rope is not stronger than a steel cable.it's stronger than steel when it's super thin, but steel is weak as fuck when it's thinAnon is suggesting the clear plastic is NOT terribly weak, or unsuitable for joints. Instead, the issue is that the shitty joint designs are causing the problem.
>>11779251I'll take Fractal and Packrat pleasethen add Lazorbeak and uhh that Primal that has bloody streaks on his hands and face that that one anon wants so badly.
>>11779500If they are are willing to do a little retooling, you could do Hydra instead and include Hardhead
>>11779505iirc, hydra is lazorbeak with slightly more paint. The retooling was already there at the lazorbeak stage. so yeah I'd be okay with that, let you headcanon him as whichever you want. I'm not like, nostalgic for lazorbeak's LACK of silver paint.. Maybe the wings look a little weird with the silver, but I'm not gonna whine.>hardheadoh yeah that'd be extensive, and I think, ultimately flaccid retooling. not a good idea. It was a bad idea then, it'd be worse now. But if they wanted to... Iunno, forego the retool and just give us a purple raptor? I have room in my heart for a purple raptor.
>>11779497I hate to say it (because I generally hate IDW) but Prowl really was a lot cooler and more interesting there than in Marvel or Sunbow. He should have been shown as the second in command in the cartoon (which Marvel generally at least got right) but they basically gave the role to Ironhide because it's easier to give multiple big roles to the same voice actor.As a toy of course, Prowl was always one of the coolest Autobots though.
>>11779497>When was Prowl cool?
>>11779527Based! Only good Prowl.
>>11779527Oh yeah, Animated Prowl is Best Prowl. The original post being replied to was bitching about G1 Prowl, though.
>>11779044Huh, I was just about to get some Wild King stuff. Guess I'm waiting for a bit.
>>11779527Face ruins it. Also looks too much like a guy in a suit.
>>11779476The only time I liked G1 Prowl was IDW2 with his relationship with Green. It sucks too because I think Prowl's Bio is super relatable>>11779527I’m shocked Hasbro/FunPub never tried to make a racing bike Smokescreen or Bluestreak out of this design
>>11779527I want a T-Spark Volfogg so I can have the robot ninja cops hang out
>>11779126Yeah, they're not super comparable
>>11779126Thanks a bunch! Shocking that despite being so oversized, haslab prime still doesn't fit into the mp scale huh...
>>11779514>But if they wanted to... Iunno, forego the retool and just give us a purple raptor? I have room in my heart for a purple raptor.Aren't we supposed to be getting a Slash from the BW Dinobot mold some time soon? Why not pack her with Lazorbeak/Hydra?
>>11779449the leaders were the most expensive toys with the most shit in them. Remember that Jetfire was briefly the leader of the Autobots too
>>11779617There is a timeline where Jetfire was leader of the Autobots and Hasbro couldn't use him past Generation 1 because of Harmony Gold lawfare bullshit.
I still don't understand why haslab fire convoy has that big gap between his boobs
>>11779527Never forget...
>>11779630Hasbro would just nuke Harmony if they had to, only reason why they didnt before is because it wasnt worth the trouble
>>11779655Unfortunately since Sony made HG and Big West make up that means they would be allied with Bandai to give that C & D order.
>>11779630Takara still would have said "Fuck no."
>>11779630Those fags at harmony gold actually tried to demand hasbro "be required to recall the toys from any person or entity known to them who purchased or received copies of the infringing products" over Thrilling 30 Jetfire iirc. The audacity.
>>11779700didn't HG also never actually have the rights to Macross in the first place or something?
>>11779700Actually it was against the SDCC GI Joe crossover Jetfire (ironically one of the few G1 Jetfires to be based completely on a Hasbro design since he’s just a retooled Skystriker) which, of course, was almost immediately thrown out of court
is retro wheelie a good buy?
>>11779614yes! Do it!and give us a JP raptor already.
>>11779700nintendo tier legal tomfoolery.it's amazing people are so ready to overthrow all the 'elites' and anyone with enough money to afford a house, but not one sees or talks about the massive cronyism or general lazy corruption of the entire legal system at every level.
>>11779711I wish Hasbro would've made the case that HG cannot legally claim copyright on the Jetfire repainted Skystriker because the Skystriker is a derivative of the F-14 Tomcat painted in white and red and that the VF-1 is itself also a separate derivative of the F-14 Tomcat so HG had no grounds to sue them to begin with (On top of the fact that HG never even made the VF-1 to begin with, that was all Shoji Kawamori)
>>11779596Surprisingly it does though. That Scourge is just technically oversized since it's MP prime height while Scourge and base RiD Prime are actually supposed to be shorter than G1 Prime. Though personally I do think Scourge works well being bigger than base Prime.
>>11779729do we have a full transcript of the case? maybe they did just that, but it didnt work because law is fucking clownshoes.
>>11779712I liked him, and I don't even like the character.
>>11779712He good, cant pose like he is drawing a Slingshot though. I would buy a movie repaint of it.
Fixed Big Convoys loose hips today. Now he is solid like a brick. I wanna get the Encore version one day, but its so pricey
>>11779614Slash getting a beast wars style figure is a really satisfying notion for some reasonI don't think there've been any other post-BW characters that got BW figures, are there? Aside from I guess retcon characters or Uprising shit
>>11779742now that you mention it, I don't think that's happened. Though there aren't that many post-BW G1 characters, are there. I mean they kinda stopped adding to G1 outside of the occasional cute idea...
>>11779750Even stretching it to include non-G1 characters, like the Unicron Trilogy, like I don't think we've ever had a (canon) Beast Wars Sideways
>>11779742I just think it would be fun that Grimmy's little sister, who canonically idolizes him (even though she in turn canonically freaks him out from time to time) gets to have a matching alt mode this time. Slash was apparently a bit of a lone wolf (according to Earth Wars), but that was largely because she was smaller and more stealthy than the other Dinobots, meaning she was better suited for spying and scouting than they were; with Grimlock downsized into a nearly identical body, there's no reason why she wouldn't give in to raptor pack instincts and stay glued to Grimmy's hip (probably to his annoyance).
>>11779742The only example I can think of is Nemesis Prime
>>11779759Make her a precocious young teen, a Velma/Penny/Miko type, just to ratchet up the tension on when they finally do the "clever girl" line
>>11779735No, they settled out of court
>>11779759Plus I know I'm not the only one who half the time thinks of Tyrannocon as Grimlock-in-a-BETTER-beast-mode-this-time, so it's even better if now she gets to take his placebut pack instinct is also cute as fuck. I would just prefer one be a way bigger raptor than the other, y'know? it's too bad we didn't get that core dinobot.>>11779761That's whom I was thinking of with that 'based on japanese toys' thing. he's not the SAME as the japanese nemesis big convoy, but he's like, close, right? God I wish IU'd known about this toy being in america, would have grabbed it so fast..>>11779763awww well she is smart and knows math.
>>11779761What would you pick for the Fallen's beast mode?I kinda think you could do something cool with like a leader class transmetal take on the Megalligator. Saltwater croc turns into a giant cannon for third mode.
>>11779771A Kerberos.
>>11779770>TyrannoconYou, uh, mean T-Wrecks, right? The red dude from Beast Machines, not the chick based off of Rexy from the Jurassic Park crossover? But yeah, there's technically no contradiction there, since it's totally possible for Grimlock to have started as his robot T-Rex form in G1, ended up on the Axalon in his downgraded body to get the raptor alt mode in BW, then get turned into a T-Rex again (this time a red "technorganic" one) when he returned to Cybertron for BM, taking up a new name.
>>11779776Fuck, that's good. I think in toy terms he should still have that transmetal or tm2 vibe, but he'd be perfect as a CerberusI am a Sideways Tarantulas truther. In fact I worry I might be responsible for the theory's spread.
>>11779771>What would you pick for the Fallen's beast mode?NTA, but it's no secret that The Fallen is a Lucifer parallel. In the Book of Revelations, Lucifer takes the form of a giant, red dragon on The End of Days, so I'd argue that would be a fitting and on-the-nose beast mode for him...had BW Megatron not already stolen it for the exact same reason.
>>11779153>>11779155What kind of redecos would he have gotten
>>11779779I'm assuming he means Tyrannocon specifically since her head seems to be based on Grimlock's for some reason.
>>11779795It's a very strange character. The rex in question is an iconically female character in a film franchise famous for female monsters, and yetthe inner robot is very masculine looking. I could see Tyrannocon's robot colors being descended from the G1 dinobot colors. I know most predacons end up being female animals but I can't think of any characters where their altmode is, like, an iconically recognizable animal of the opposite gender. Like a female repaint of Lio Convoy.
>>11779712My headcanon is that he's a mass produced servant droid and Wheelie is a defect. That's why he can only speak in rhymes and is off color.
>>11779779naw doesn't tyrannocon basically have grimlock's head and basic color scheme (in terms of robot mode parts)? I thought that's what they were going for.>>11779771baryonyx perhaps, with an extra crocodilian look to his texture.
>>11779795yeah that>>11779802totally, but you can see how it happened. They had megatron to work with, they were already making this too expensive because of the licensing, so they weren't gonna fuck with it pretty hard..it is funny how often the female of the species is either A) more deadly or B) what jurassic park is cloning, and thus.. these...but I'm still calling tyrannocon and dilophocon males, because they look male, and because if dilophosaurs DID have that big colorful neck thing, it'd be on males.. not to mention the head crests. these are just very masculine dinos.
>>11779815Oh shit that's right they made a dilophosaurus, didn't they? How is it? I was out of the fandom for a while.
>>11779712There's a lot to love about him, but the connection for the nose of the vehicle to the torso is poorly toleranced. It isn't quite as bad as the new Sideways, but it still falls off routinely. It could use a pin instead of a friction fit.
>>11779865Dilophocon? She's fun - basically has Kingdom Vertebreak's transformation scheme, but on a larger scale with a bit more going on with her thighs and making her beast head fold up.She's partially mistransformed in pic related - her shins are supposed to lock in place, and the stump of her tail should be folded up and flush against her back instead of hanging between her legs here.Wayne Knight not that comes with her is decent, too - it's funny how they managed to angle the jeep wheels to make him look fat.
>>11778551i tried to do that and it honestly sucks, nothing actually plugs or has friction good enough for it, at least the actual jet mode feels solid even if its a literal flying brick.
>>11778348???
>>11779997How does that fucking stand
>>11779999by using at least one of the arms. it's not that hard to figure out, anon
>>11779617>>11779630Confusing shit.Hasbro never intended for Jetfire to be a leader. It was only in a single European market, Italy IIRC, that Jetfire was leader of the Autobots opposite Megatron and that was only out of desperation as a fly by night company snatched up the rights to Diaclone including Optimus Prime's mold, leaving Hasbro's Italian market FUBARed for its first year until they basically got Takara to yank the rights from said other company and quickly rebooted the line with Optimus back as leader.
>>11780006>Confusing shit.it really isn't. what part are you getting confused about?
>>11779705It's a complicated mess TLDR Big West made Macross but quickly ran out of budget just as their TV station requested an extra 13 episodes to keep the show going longer. Tatsunoko, a big time animated studio, offered to front the money to finish the show in exchange for an ownership stake which did not include any say over overseas distribution rights. Big West agreed then watched Tatsunoko sell the US rights to HG.HG originally intended to release Macross as a direct to video series and by the time they decided to release it as Robotech, with Tonka as their toy company, Hasbro had bought the US rights to the main Veritech toy. Hasbro created an alternate design for him for media though only the cartoon used his alternate name Skyfire and only used him in a handful of episodes.Cut to the late 90s where HG is in a bit of chaos due to Saban stealing multiple employees, allowing another company to get the rights to Macross Plus under their noses. Pissed off, HG starts registering the Macross trademark in every non Japanese country to bully BW into only licensing their new Macross shows to them. Macross replies by telling them to fuck off, but Tatsunoko keeps renewing HG's rights to Macross over BW's objections.
>>11779999Better than you'd expect
How does tfg feel about cycle boy?
>>11780015>HG stealing future macross shows they dont even really have the rights to just because they borrowed SDF to make a shitty amercianized version
The doctor is in!
>>11780020RATCHET, NO!
>>11780015BW finally takes Tatsunoko to court when HG starts early talks to make a Robotech movie. BW wins foreign distribution rights back as the Jap court declares that Tatsunoko never had the right to nahe their deal with HG... But HG tells BW to try and enforce the ruling, especially since the court doesn't outright revoke Tatsunoko licensing the show to HG in favor of a sunsetting period to let existing contracts expire.Meanwhile HG sure Hasbro, who by this point has created another evergreen Jetfire design that more resembles the original toy complete with removable battle helmet gimmick accessory. Hasbro not only wins but basically HG gets hit with a court ruling that bars them from ever suing Hasbro again over the Jetfire character.Finally Sony, who has the movie rights to Robotech, forced HG to pay Big West a kings ransom (instead of forcing them to take whatever pittance HG was willing to pay as part of their extortion scheme) to resolve their long-standing beef for good
>>11780017Basically a good deluxe with two added shitty minicon hats making it $10 extra
>>11779997It's been 17 years and this is still one of the stupidest fucking designs, looks like his hands should be the other way around.
>>11780020not a bad retool. Not a fan of the big gap in the side of the torso. Did Trailbreaker have that?
>>11780025man the copyright system is a shitshow
>>11780009nta, but the implication that Jetfire was intended to actually be a leader long term makes no sense. It's a mold they got from Bandai which Takara was never going to be able to produce, and part of their deal with Takara was Takara being able to use Transformers marketing in their own market.anon is explaining the only reason Jetfire was used as a leader in a small market are in Europe was due to another company having the diaclone license at the time.
>>11780029>It's been 17 yearsFuck...
>>11779802My theory is that the Grimlock head was tooled as the mold's second head in case they ever decided to make an organic version of Grimlock out of it, but never did, but since they already had the second head they used that for Tyrannocon. Hard to say though since the T-Rex is so obviously a Jurassic Park T-Rex, even when it was BW Megatron that Tyrannocon was obviously planned from the design stage.
>>11780021Kek, I've never seen a Hellraiser, but perhaps I should.>>11780030I really liked the Trailbreaker mold, but didn't care for the arm flaps, so I think he's a huge improvement. And it did and it looks even worse. I think it's more noticable with Ratchet because of the brighter colors though.
>*sighs* Young bots...>>11780035Whatever you do, don't let it set in.
>>11780036Isn't Megatron basically a Jurassic Park t-rex outside of colors to begin with?
>Listen up, scrapheap!>You are not an Autobot and you never will be an Autobot!
>>11780058>You're only good for one thing...GARBAGE!
>>11780031Where we stand now:Harmony Gold now ONLY has the rights to Robotech and the shows that went into it: SDF Macross, as well as Tatsunoko's own Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross, and Genesis Climber Mospeada (which nobody ever cares about).Big West can now distribute every OTHER Macross media that is not SDF Macross or its film adaptation Do You Remember Love?. Harmony Gold technically gets what they want because to them SDF Macross's iconography and characters are so important to their Robotech brand, but they have continued to bungle it all because any attempt to create something new from that has failed utterly. Their most recent attempt was a Kickstarter to fund a pilot episode for a new TV series ("Robotech Academy") back in 2014 but it was cancelled before the kickstarter even reached its conclusion naturally (at the time of its cancellation it had not even reached 50% of its goal). The only Robotech thing since has been a perpetual "We're going to have one, really!" talk of a Robotech movie, presumably because Harmony Gold knows that's their last hurrah to get anyone to give a shit about Robotech and move things beyond its continually shrinking fanbase Conversely, Animeigo had a very successful kickstarter to put Macross II on Blu Ray, you can see every other Macross on streaming, and in Japan a 40th Anniversary Blu Ray of Do You Remember Love? was released (that just so happens to include English subtitles, wink wink).
>>11780062Hasbro should put out a recolor of Jetfire called Skullfokker.
>>11780060Animated and Prime but G1ified will never not be weird to me.
>>11779770>That's whom I was thinking of with that 'based on japanese toys' thing. he's not the SAME as the japanese nemesis big convoy, but he's like, close, right?He became this guy in Alternity after Universe because Japan loves deep cuts and making insane lore.https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Nemesis_Prime_(Universe)#Alternity
>>11780033>but the implication that Jetfire was intended to actually be a leader long term makes no sense.because it's not true. there's nothing to be confused about here.
>>11780072It's because autists screeched about them making heads that matched the bodies so now they look like bad kitbashes with out of place heads.
>>11779742I feel like Botcon/TFCC must have done something but I cant remember the lore much except for the first few.What G1 characters got to become Beast Wars characters or at least bodies anyways? I always wanted it to happen more in lines like Universe or expanded universe stuff. All I remember is Ravage, possibly Prowl (Transmetal 2), and Grimlock/Twrecks, and Quake (Beast Machined Tankor comic only), Arcee, and I think Ultra Mammoth was the same Magus but I'm not sure. Maybe Buzzsaw? Deathsaurus I think? Theres so much potential for stuff like Weirdwolf as a Silverbolt repaint, etc. But it doesnt really matter now that we actually got multiple toys of characters like that.
>>11780081I have never seen anyone say that. Only that the new toys look like shit. And I've been here way too fucking long.
>>11780082I just remembered we got a G1 Repugnus from the Praying Mantis Lizard Fuzor and I can never find it for a sane price on Ebay and I'm sad now. >>11779742We got Robots In Disguise Brutikus which was clearly an unused Beast Machines mold as a repaint of that 3 headed Cybertron dragon dude as an actual Predacon. I feel like that might count somehow
This might count maybe. Its post BW I guess. I wish I got one when it was cheap too wtf was wrong with me.
Was RID the ultimate filler line? >takara makes a few new molds and the rest of the line is whatever they can reuse>brought over to the states to fill after BM died and Armada wasnt ready yet>not only succeded in both markets the first time, but then filled space again in Universe
>>11780082>What G1 characters got to become Beast Wars characters or at least bodies anyways?- According to early BW material, Optimus Primal and Megatron are the G1 originals. This obviously quickly changed.- BW Grimlock is outright stated to be G1 Grimlock in his toy bio.- BW Ironhide/Silverbolt/Prowl weren't originally the G1 guys, then some media said they were, them some other media had them as original BW characters again. So it depends on the universe.- Ravage, via the show.- Arcee, via her BotCon toy.- Ultra Magnus, via his Ultra Mamoth toy.- BW owl Prowl is hinted, but not confirmed, to be G1 Prowl in his bio, setting him apart from not-G1 BW lion Prowl. One of the media that said lion Prowl was G1 Prowl claimed that owl Prowl was a G1 Prowl clone with a Binaltech reference, which actually couldn't work without later fixing by AVP. So like lion Prowl, owl Prowl being (a?) G1 guy depends on which universe you're looking at. Or if you just believe his toy bio or not.- Repugnus and Overbite, via their Universe toys.- Buzzsaw and Laserbeak, via their BotCon toys. These are fully robotic bodies though, like Ravage.- BW Lazorbeak has some references to G1 Laserbeak, but also a completely different personality. He's BW-original.- Swoop got merged with a rando to become Windrazor.- Deathsaurus didn't. His BotCon toy is from R.I.D. Megatron, not any BW toys, and its fiction takes place in G1 times.I'm not fully versed in all the BM bios. - T-Wrecks is only very slightly hinted to be Grimlock, and doesn't really match up with BW Grimlock.- BM Mirage has a very similar bio to G1 Skywarp.
>>11780098inferno from that one Funpube comic but who the fuck cares
>>11780091Thrustinator is the best thing Fun Pub ever did and I regret not owning one.
>>11780098>>11780082It's IDW1 instead of a BW setting, but Carnivac, Overbite, and Armada Tidal Wave got BW-type bodies. Tidal Wave turns into a whale.
>>11780106and a giant tank/mobile base!
>>11780107
>>11780093I depends on your definition of filler line, but I think the original Universe probably takes it>created solely to have more toys on the shelf>lasted for 5 years>literally only 1 new mold to tie in with Chevy>every other mold ranged from late G1 all the way to Unicron Trilogy>more than a dozen cancelled toys>>11780105I’ve always had a soft spot for the Darksyde Waspinator they did. I especially love even the Wiki pointing out how weirdly fitting the mold is for Waspinator
>>11780108Ahh, mercury. Sweetest of the transition metals.
>>11780113They should have repainted the tow truck flipchanger to match as Tarantulas. The head is already there.
>>11780078We’ll tell that to >>11779617>>11779630
>>11779997it needs to be BIGGER>>11780113I have the old universe hot shot and it's fucking bad
>>11780137You might be thinking of uninverse 2.0 Hot Shot. Universe 1 was all old molds( and Swerve that was probably meant for 2.0 but mislabeled) Armada Hot Shot was going to be recollected as Smokescrren but was cancelled
>>11780017Horrible in every way and sold for 2X what he shouldCan't even properly use his gimmick he's known for because ass QC
>>11780113Man, we need a new Transmetal Waspinator. It would probably have to be a voyager to match the complexity of the original deluxe.
>>11780042The head and limbs have different proportions. BW Megatron has a more bulbous head and chunkier legs. It's a reasonable change to make, like Cheetor and Tigatron not actually being the same mold anymore, and if they'd never made the collaboration toy I don't think people would have drawn attention to it.I wonder if we'll ever get feathered BW dinosaurs. Glam Megatron with a pompous mane. Dinobot with a warrior's frill.
>>11780017If he were just a deluxe without the minicons he'd suck, but instead he's a voyager with two of the most awful micro figures in years. Awful and a tremendous disappointment.
>>11780166I know it’s also a reference to the Collector's Club toy of the same name, but I really think Hasbro releasing Skywasp was meant to be a nudge that they aren’t doing TM Waspinator any time soon.I get it was for budgeting reasons but it seems really weird that all of the TM1 (except Depth Charge and Rampage) were characters already in the show, but half of them never became Transmetals, meaning that they are very unlikely to do toys of them now
>>11780017I like him, he is an add on kit away from being perfect. Crosswise just barely passes for a head. Rook looks ridiculous. Flat feet are odd, it looks like they intended to have his feet fold into his calf to give him skinny feet but added the fillers for stability reasons. Pic related, these line up perfectly to be able to fold up into the calf if they were not there.
Get him on a sale. I dont think he will sell out. I keep seeing him at stores.
>>11780180I haven't seen him anywhere yet
>>11780178>meaning that they are very unlikely to do toys of them nowWhy though it's not like there was a time limit on them doing BW characters. See you on 2060...
>>11780017Does he have the spoopy third head?
>>11780181Found mine at ebgames. Also seen at Walmart.
>>11780182The Kingdom line was definitely a show nostalgia line first and foremost. That's reasonable, it was a popular show, but I don't think we'll be getting beast deep cuts for a while.Weird we still haven't gotten Rampage, he's a popular character and a really fun toy. Probably they wouldn't use moving treads though.
>>11780186It's 2026, they'd have to make Rampage a commander.
>>11780191I feel like Rampage could work as a leader, Tigerhawk and TM2 Megatron were both leaders
>>11780191Tbh I'd be happy with a leader as long as it was on scale with dragon Megatron and Tigerhawk. But then I have nostalgia for the show character, not the original toy.
>>11780137> We actually thought of two options for this. (1) Scavenger being a Commander scale figure and Overload a Voyager or (2) Scavenger a Leader scale and Overload a Leader scale. We decided to proceed with option 2 of both Leader scales to fit in our existing scales, but more importantly for strength and stability. Having the lower torso as a Leader scale with more mass helped to improve the stability of Devastator.
>>11780196
>>11780127...neither of those were confused about the subject, anon
>>11780098I'm surprised they never repainted one of the dozens of Beast Wars bugs in Insecticon colors as far as I know anyways. I remember Japan made some Mexicans and that's about it.
>>11780204How the fuck have they not made a BW version of Bumblebee that turns into a fucking bumblebee
>>11780211It's probably because BW Buzzsaw exists.
>>11780211Apparently Bumblebee is a difficult name for toy Bumblebee trademark-wise. Also insects are pretty much all Predacons.
>>11780220Except when they aren't!
>>11780220Don’t forget about these guys>>11780226I was going to comment on how weird it is that one of the Jointrons isn’t an insect but then I remembered that one of the Magnaboss members isn’t a mammal like the other two
>>11780226>>11780228>Japan
>>11780179Im probably the only one who cares, but i tried it crudely in cardboard and it fits perfectly. I am convinced this is how it was designed originally. Add on kit when?
>>11780196>>11780197Clearly in hindsight Option 1 was the correct choice.
>>11780062That reminds me, I never posted my review of Basara Prime. Might do that later.
>>11780183He has three heads
>>11780182I heard a lot of the Kingdom BW guys shelfwarmed.
>>11780220>Apparently Bumblebee is a difficult name for toy Bumblebee trademark-wise.Couldn't Hasbro cover their ass by just calling it "Maximal Bumblebee"?
Can't Hasbro just buy the trademark for bees from God
>>11779865>>11779916Very cool. I custom painted mine so it wouldn't inexplicably have red patches on the beast mode that make no sense.
>>11780220The gist of it is a bumblebee named Bumblebee is an incredibly hard copyright to defendAnd losing one copyright case opens you up to losing more
>>11780145>You might be thinking of uninverse 2.0 Hot ShotThat's the one.I leave him in vehicle mode because that part is solid but the robot mode posing sucks and the transforming is unforgivable.
>>11780298you'd still have the problem of MAXIMALS NOT BEING INSECTS
>>11780220Just call him Bumblebeast!
>>11780281I'd like to hear it, I was considering him but he took so long to come out that I cooled
>>11780313Goldbugfire
>>11780307Nice.
The mention of Buzzsaw had me thinking of the Cybertron figure I had as a kid, and that got me to thinking about all the decos Cyclonus and Demolisher had. Maybe the most prominent Armada characters who don't have updates at this point. Which decos would you hope for? Here's Armada, Powerlinx, Energon, and Cybertron Demolisher.
And here's Armada, Powerlinx, and Energon Cyclonus, and Cybertron Buzzsaw
>>11780313Beeblebum
>>11780336Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
>>11780018It's telling when you actually come off looking worse than Saban>>11780031the biggest issue is somehow we decided you can BUY intellectual property.How? When you buy something, the previous owner no longer has it. But the intellect that created the IP still has it.. and in fact, is the only one who has the 'masters' so to speak.You should only be allowed to temporarily lease/license IPs, and they should expire after you die like normal, no matter who was using them.>>11780038I've never liked horror but I love how creative it used to get. Actually the same goes for hentai. The gore people get amazingly high quality art for their fetish, and I'm jealous.>>11780042>>11780169it's unfortunate the Kingdom mold has such a small t-rex head, both modes needed a larger one... also yes, featherdinos please.
>>11780186as long as they tweak his proportions and change the weird separate crab head to a proper crab face, I'm in.>>11780218that's a dang yellowjacket!>>11780220>>11780298IIRC the issue is that if they ever like, openly acknowledge that bumblebee is a kind of animal, they lose the flimsy grip they have on the trademark
>>11780204i think the beast wars bugs we got are specifically kind of awkward for thatyes, there's a stag beetle, but the others are>Weevil>Earwig>Waspplus the obvious spiders and scorpion and all that. It wouldn't feel very reminiscent of the insecticons, who were, if I recall properly, a stag beetle, a kabuto beetle, and a grasshopper. There was that one awkward TM2 grasshopper, but that's not the same thingoh I guess there's Venom. But a Cicadacon recolor of him wouldn't exactly have the right oomph, now would it
>>11780344>you can BUY intellectual property.what's wrong with that?
>>11779384Wowzers!
>>11780350what's wrong is you can sit on a property and do nothing with it for generations after the creator has died
>>11780350well I feel like I just outlined it, but I'll ... just repeat myself?see to buy something is to take it away from the previous owner. But when you buy an IP, all you have is the property rights. Everything about having it, except actually having it. Like imagine if people bought the rights to... stand-up comedy personas. You buy "Gallagher" and now you can put on the hat and wig, and hit shit with a mallet, but you don't have any of the comedy writing that made him so... ..... well, I don't know why I picked Gallagher. The point is, IP is something you should be licensing, and the original creator still either at the helm of it, or having the rights of first refusal. So we stop having these situations of people thinking this is "an X product" when the creator of X died, this is not in any way an X product. It won't have any of the creative DNA, just the names.
>>11780114Sealab was so good anon
KINOOOOOOOOOO
>>11780344>>11780357>But the intellect that created the IP still has it.. and in fact, is the only one who has the 'masters' so to speak.But what if the P is the creation of multiple people? And most famous properties tend to be made through the contributions of many people.Take Transformers for example. Who has the "master" to the IP in this thought experiment? The original Takara execs who came up with the concept of adding Transforming robots to a line? The designers who made it?The Hasbro exec who saw these toys and decided to import them?The various Marvel writers who conceptualized names for the characters and early treatments? Bob Budiansky for finalizing most of the ideas and creating the characters as we know them early on? >Like imagine if people bought the rights to... stand-up comedy personas.This is actually a thing that happens, btw. The Three stooges being the most famous example
>>11780388Takara makes the best Optimus designs, once again
>>11780331>>11780333I just want the OG colors. Im still waiting for hasbro to remake em. Im an armada babby, cater to me already. Still made the autobot brothers from RID 2001 arent done or the predacons.
>>11780204BWII had a whole bunch of insect Preds redecoed, but they were done as good guys which made it so they probably weren't going to do them as decepticon references. A lot of BW molds haven't seen much use since Universe, so unlikely to see thewm now.You know when would've been a perfect time to do something like that? 02-03 in the postgame of RiD/early Armada before universe, would've been perfect alongside the 2003 Target Dinobots.
I spent roughly 130 dollars on a 2009 figure because mine has a missing piece and I couldn't find any ebay listings that had that piece by itselfam I retarded
>>11780402Which figure?
>>11780402autistic for sure, but at least you can sell the other as for parts to make back some of your money or keep if you don't mind the dent in your wallet
>>11780388Let me post that picture except not SHIT
>>11780356If you paid for it, what's the big deal? Nobody else is entitled to someone IP
>>11780357>see to buy something is to take it away from the previous owner.No, it's to have the previous owner GIVE IT to you, by their choice. You make it sound like there's something nefarious to the whole thing. People make whole livings off selling their ideas.
Reminder, never trust private sellers on their word. Ask for pics always.
>>11780406The shaping of the chest, the ab grill. the shoulder pads... the powerful thighs, it's all so good. He's gonna be like $200+ isn't he...
>>11780357so when the original creator dies, the IP just disappears. Nobody can use it?
>>11780407Barking up the wrong tree pal, I don't care if some child-molesting kike paid for it.
>>11780390those are good points, IP is already messy as fuck. but typically it becomes a division thing. Ideally there's two creators, they split it 50/50. inevitably, they fight, they break up, one sells his half of the company to the other. So already we have something very iffy about IP ownershipTransformers is... just a mess. but GENERALLY the idea is if you paid someone to design something, it's not his to own because you gave the orders.. it is not the best line to draw, but I think it's->3 stooges and also Laurel and Hardy had terrible cartoonsgod damn I forgot about that. But that's just it, it had none of their humor style. You literally can't buy that
>leigh rothschild ITTblehtell me what your favorite bayverse bee figure is, I've yet to find one I really like
>>11780414Are you the original poster or just some asshole who wants attention?
>>11780388takara wins again
>>11780403leader ROTF optimus primemine is missing a foot>>11780405I just found a cheaper listing that has the part I need but the one I ordered already shippedI think I fucked up...
>>11780417I am the original poster and I'm absolutely on the edge of my seat waiting for you to tell me why I should care who owns the IP. As a consumer I want more media from that IP, and many parties are willing to make it. You really expect me to just sit there and be okay with the fact that some asshole owns it and won't let anyone do anything with it?Bootlicker.
>>11780423>>bootlickeroh brother.because you're not entitled to anyone else's IP, and nobody has to give a shit what YOU want.you want something, pay for it just like everyone else on planet Earth.
>>11780425Again, why should I care?
>>11780423you do know that other people do use the IP for their own stuff. It's called fanfiction and is usually pretty easy to find.
>>11780426Because you DON'T have what you said you want. I would think you care about that.
>>11780429Anon, I'm asking why I should care what you think.
>>11780427Not really what's being debated but yes I'm aware that fanworks. But have you ever heard of this really obscure site called 4chan?
>>11780430because you keep asking me what I think.anyway, that's enough (you)'s for you. you've gotten boring.
>>11780431what IS being debated then, because dopey was complaining that other people can't use an IP for THEIR stuff and, well, they can.
>>11780388>>11780406>totally not Cybertron Prime guys
>>11780432Fair enough, I made the mistake of probing a bootlicker.My point is that your insistence on the person owning the IP having the right do what they want is irrelevant to the consumer's demands. So I don't understand why you, who is supposedly a consumer and not bootlcker, would specifically argue against your interest.
>>11780437alright I'll play a little longer,who died and made you an expert on what the consumer demands. I already said other people DO use the IP so you're getting a wide range of fiction with the IP so what is your problem?
>>11780438>alright I'll play a little longer,Oh, welcome to the hotel california. Stop acting like you're above the argument when you keep participating.>I already said other people DO use the IPAnd IP owners hold the right to take that shit down.
>>11780439>And IP owners hold the right to take that shit down.but most rarely do. You DO know about all the 3P Transformers being sold. You DO know about all the fanfiction nobody cares about. Are you reading it? You better be since you're so burned up about this. and I guess I have to explain this to you but whoever owns the IP is by the creator's choice. That's who the creator WANTS to own it. They could've given it away for free so everyone has it, or kept it and produced work themselves, but decided they wanted money in exchange for their idea, so nobody but YOU seems to have a problem with the arrangement. YOU seem to think you're entitled to other people's ideas just because you want what you want.
>>11780416Christ, you weren't kidding.Honestly I haven't gotten anything better than MPM-3.
>>11780400>Sludge goes from transforming into a species of dinosaur that never actually existed into something that was never a dinosaur in the first placeAlso, why the hell isn't the triceratops Slag?
>>11780443>but most rarely doAnd many do it quite often.>whoever owns the IP is by the creator's choiceAnon.Not once have I debated this.Calm down and stop making up shit to get mad at. I've very clearly explained what I'm talking about here >>11780437. Stop trying to change the topic. It's childish and pathetic.
>>11780448Didn't they backtrack though and Brontosaurus really existed again?
>>11780443>>11780438>you shouldn't care about situations where it's an issue because there are situations where it's not an issueHasbro loves you!
>>11780436No railgun. When they finally do Cybertron Prime, whether they get that right or not determines if I'll buy it
>>11780400Slapper, the most popular of the G1 Dinobots. Why the fuck is Triceradon not named Slag?
Studio Series or 4th party for this combiner kino?
>>11780454I still don't get what the issue IS? It sounds like YOU just want other people's stuff.
>>11780450How am I changing the topic? You just made it clear that you don't care what the actual creator wants. You just want other people's stuff.
>>11780465>>11780467Listen pal, if you ever come to understand the difference between "I want more media from this IP" and "I am demanding you give me ownership of the IP," let me know.
>>11780469I do understand the difference.The former is you damading shit from other people whether they want to give it to you or not. I think I already said, you're not entitled to anyone else IP. There is NO issue, no crime, you're not a victim. you're just a crybaby demanding shit
>>11780473>I think I already said, you're not entitled to anyone else IPAnd I never said I was.
>>11780474If you want to use it to make stuff, then you think you ARE entitled to it. where am I getting things wrong?
>>11780475>If you want to use it to make stuffI don't.
>>11780462I still hate that jetfire had to die for this. Ruins the gattai.
>>11780476you just want OTHER people to make more stuff for you. Well you're not entitled to that either. Nobody has to serve you anything
Oh, you hear that everybody? All of us asking for Hasbro to do this or that Transformer, we're all just a bunch of entitled crybabies. Shut the fuck up and suck the corporate cock!
>>11780479I never said I was entitled to any of it. I said I want it. And I said I don't care who owns it.
>>11780448>>11780457They had no individual BW Sauropod to use, so no traditional Sludge.Also they were avoiding Slag for a while because it's harder to trademark as a more generic word, and because it had slang connotations for a prostitute in the UK...ironically, Slapper does /too/, which is why they've avoided that name since. But really fucking funny that it means there's two dinobots out there with slut names.
>>11780480what the fuck are you talking about? this has nothing to do with making figures, you simpleton
>>11780484Anon... did you know... that TRANSFORMERS... is an IP?
>>11780482I want an orgy with the Dallas Cheerleaders. But I don't act like there's some injustice in the world because they won't give me what I want. I act like an adult
>>11780486yes, and the 3P thread is on this board too. I think I said this, stupid
>>117804871. Human beings aren't intellectual property and do not require licensing.2. I do not act like there is an injustice in the world, this is your projection.3. You have not acted like an adult once in this entire discussion. You even tried to pull the "heh I'm outta here" and then came right back.
>>11780488Anon... if we're talking about the use of an IP... and Transformers is an IP... and demanding someone make something with an IP is entitled...Then who are you to dare ask Hasbro to manufacture Transfomers?
>>11780490>I do not act like there is an injustice in the world, this is your projection.>>11780454>you shouldn't care about situations where it's an issue because there are situations where it's not an issuewant to explain what you mean by this then?
>>11780494Not my post.
>>11780493Yes, demanding people make things for you is entitled. I have to explain this to you
>>11780497And that includes food? Anybody who needs Wal-Mart to sell them food is entitled?
>>11780496So you continued the argument someone else started and I'm supposed to guess where he stopped and you started. Yeah I'm not doing that.Should've clarified what YOU meant before you jumped in
>>11780501>So you continued the argument someone else startedNo? What the fuck are you talking about?
>>11780499Actually yes. You don't go into anyplace and demand things. Adult go into Walmart and BUY things. exchange of goods and services. Nobody HAS to give you what you damn like a slave.
>>11780410chrissakes, as I was writing that I thought "is anyone going to be pedantic enough to pick that apart? no, no that's just how English works"thank you for adding nothing to the conversation and adding a new wrinkle to my brain "some gits think 'take away' is a negative even when it's explicitly in exchange for money.>>11780413no, EVERYBODY can use it. That's the beauty part. The thing you made lives on after you, and now it's for everyone.
>>11780502you just said this >>11780454wasn't you
>>11780423this is not the original poster, btw, I am. I was busy customizing a zoid.
>>11780505Correct.
>>11780453yep. they realized that both the rules and common sense dictate that brontosaurus is still a thing. it's just not apatosaurus.
>>11780504and maybe the person who made it WANTS someone specific to have it after they die. That's why they CHOSE to sell it. But you already said you don't care what the creator wants. It's about what YOU want.Maybe if you ever create something yourself EVER, you'll understand this.
>>11780415>ideally there's two creators, they split it 50/50. inevitably, they fight, they break up, one sells his half of the company to the other. So already we have something very iffy about IP ownership>Transformers is... just a mess. but GENERALLY the idea is if you paid someone to design something, it's not his to own because you gave the orders.. it is not the best line to draw, but I think it's-That may be the ideal, but reality as you see is far murkier than that. Under this idea, lets say Optimus, would it belong to the person who initially signed off on, say, 3000 yen price point item, not necessarily caring if it'd be any particular toy? Would it be the planner who thought up of making it a truck? The artists who came up with sketches, or the engineer who took those ideas and refined it into something workable within a 3000 yen budget? And then this item is yet to have a name it'd be more familiar by, or any sort of story. Along all these steps so far, no one's had an exact inkling of what the final creation would be when all was said and done. Would/Should a Japanese budget manager who found that stores are willing to order a 3000 yen toy be the most deserving to owning Optimus Prime as an IP?
>>11780503Anon. When did I EVER ask anybody to give me anything for free?
>>11780406the floating tire reminds me of ss86 long haulwhy not fold it in tho
>>11780507so yeah, I'm not mindreading which posts are whose and I already said my argument and nobody has given me a decent countergument other than calling me names and asking why they should care what I say. so whatever
>>11780478Yeah he was a fantastic character, and it sucks that all of his toys are hamstrung now to become combiner parts, even though that isn't what happened in the movie.by all means, let some of his parts pop OFF (in a way not required for his normal transformation, thank you) and attach to Prime if you really want. or just include those parts with a version of Prime and yknow "converts into truck next to pile of SR-71 wreckage!">>11780483it's so hard to make a lot of good beastformers, even 3P tends to have like 'oh there's just wings made of big sauropod neck halves, it's fine'
>>11780514>so yeah, I'm not mindreading which posts are whoseThis is mine >>11780439
>>11780512No, the DEMANDING part. Walk into anywhere and start DEMANDING shit, see how well that goes over.
>>11780516I said I'm already not picking apart the postsre-read>>11780514
>>11780510that intended person can still continue it! everyone will know "This guy was the CHOSEN successor" and that'll be his crown of laurels, but everyone else can do their version too, and maybe people will like it, maybe not. Everyone who wants to buy it will say "I could buy this, or I could make my own, it's pubic domain now"and I don't mean like immediately. Let's say 10 years after death. Give things time to settle up, if there was an unfinished final book, whatever. Let the guy's family wring out whatever profit they want, let his preferred studio make a movie because he left them the licensed authorization to do so.. but put a goddamn limiter on it.
>>11780517Anon.What do you think "consumer demand" means?Do you unironically think it means "give me shit for free?"Did you actually, seriously, genuinely think I was arguing for free shit?Do you think me asking hasbro to make this or that megatron is asking for them to give it to me for free?
>>11780511jeez you're not kidding.But then again, there's another side of it. Things like this, characters who were invented as toys, designed by like 10 different people, and constantly reworked... can have knockoffs like nothin. like anyone can do basically the same idea if they want, already. Because it's so impossible to say definitively "these are the EXACT indicia of this character" for the precise reasons you've outlined here. So it's kinda moot. That's a cop-out answer, though, you've really made me feel nine again, realizing my seemingly common sense world-reworking ideas might not apply to every situation.
>>11780518Nothing to pick apart, I already linked you to it.
>11780521mamma mia, this fucker's pretty obviously trolling
>>11780524meant for >>11780521
>>11780519and they're doing that now. 3P thread right on the board. Fanfiction sites go get 'em.I'm getting tired of going in circles. I've had this conversation before and usually, after all the hemming and huffing, it comes out what the person really wants is to MAKE MONEY writing for whatever character they want. It's not about the consumer, or the creator, or what's good for the IP. it's that guy being pissy because he can't making a living just using other people's stuff, creator's own wishes be damned.Good night. make up your own shit, and then maybe you're understand why people are a little protective about having control over their own stuff
>i re-added the carat! now I got my (you)!you didn't wait long enough for anyone to think that was you. 5 more seconds and it would have felt plausible
>>11780528meant for >>11780525
>>11780521Good, go contact any company ANYONE and demand shit. see how fast they apologize for not meeting your demands
I was gonna say I wanted hasbro to do some tfa decepticons in the next line but uhhhhhhh
>>11780530???
"Consumer demand is an economic measure of a group's desire for a product or service based on availability. It represents the buying habits of consumers and helps determine the purchasing trends of specific populations. Businesses use consumer demand projections and data to evaluate their pricing, revenues and strategies when selling products or services."From https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/consumer-demandJust thought I'd clear that up.
>>11780527Man I'm just here to talk about what Transformers I want to see, I don't get what's so entitled about that.
>>11780527literally my point, thank you for repeating it.oh wait you're mixing me up with- I told you I'm not that guy. He's just fuckin around.
>>11780531How entitled of you.
>>11780519>that intended person can still continue it!But it's very not a single specific person that it's being sold to, because a single person rarely has the kind of capital to make such a purchase. It's sold to a corporation. People choose to sell to a corporation.One of the arguable few times it's been sold to a specific person was Saban selling Power Rangers to Brian Goldner, ironically. But Goldner's own capital would not be enough, he bought it through Hasbro.
>>11780537what? I'm saying if you really want disney to keep making your thing, you can will it to them for 10 years. or you can say "I want my son to write the last book from my notes" or whatever. I just feel like a decade after you croak is fucking enough.Similar for when it's okay to pirate games (prior to Nintendo's recent shenanigans that basically demand it). You wait til that console generation is truly dust, and every game has 'made its money' already. The company owning it might try to milk you via some inferior service, but unless they can sweeten the deal with convenience, naw. I'm cool to pirate that.
Oh, this takes me back. I remember in 2012 when Mass Effect 3 released, everybody was shitting on it for the really lame and pointless ending system that they'd been building up for decades. That was around the time when journalists started dropping this whole "entitlement" meme. Let 'em talk. They're just mad you're not giving them as much money as you could be.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S1tcmHcp8Q
>>11780522You mean well but ultimately your idea is just that, well meaning and not true to the reality of things work. It's this romanticized idea that an IP like Transformers could have one nice old creator who poured his heart into it, made all the characters and ideas himself, but it's just not the reality of IP. Some nice old cobbler making the toys himself, making up the characters and the stories, passing it on to his kids maybe, but that just isn't what we have. So many IPs as we know them are the product we can only have known and consoooomed through the power of corporation, too big for any single person to have made into a phenomenon. Other people contributing to the idea, execs putting in money to the idea, merchandisers selling the idea, feedback from audiences changing how the idea is made. You can name almost any IP you know and it's the product of . Manga and adaptations/merch related to them is probably the closest thing in the modern world we have to a singular creator being the creator and owner, but even so many are at the mercy of editors and publishers choosing to even feature them. It's a corporate world we live in, we are in the graces and the mercy of money and manpower being focused into corporations to create the world we're in.
>anon leaves in a fury>thread comes to a screeching haltso satisfying
>>11780531We're getting Animated Slipstream in 2027.
>>11780558Oh hey, that's pretty cool. Would not have expected her.I wonder if they're considering new molds for Ultra Magnus and Megatron.
>>11780538Very rarely does it come down to a single person, and I'll give you an example of a single person who tried and found it completely burned him out- Peter Laird with TMNT. for the last 10 years he owned the property, he tried his hardest to market the franchise, get a live action movie made,manage all the licensing and overseeing everything, and he found he just couldn't do with the IP what he wanted, companies want to deal with companies and not cottage creators.
>>11780558wonder if they'll fuck her up again in the exact same way or an exciting new way
>>11780547yeahh they really painted themselves into a corner trying to make a satisfying ending to a game series that long and deep, but you know what, I commend them for trying.>>11780551that's nice anonjust say 80 years from when the corporation comes up with the franchise.
>>11780561Yep. he got hella depressed when nobody would greenlight his followup to the first moviesucks, because he had all the talent. Eastman even admitted it.
>>11780564>tryingAll three endings were the same.
>>11780562I know people want slipstream to have her body type but as long as she does the same problems will keep occuring. Girl needs a redesign.
>>11780564>>11780566>threeWait, I'm wrong. There were more than that (sort of?)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA
>>11780566I guess I meantgood on them for even attempting to handle such a situation. Valve couldn't fucking finish up the half-life 2 saga, and they had the advantage of all the time and money in the world and complete creative freedom, in a LINEAR narrative format. They just.. didn't, because they didn't have any new tech ideas to try out.and anyway ME went back and tried to fix the shitty endings, right? It's something. i'm not a fan, but I get why it's huge.
>>11780557>it's that guy being pissy because he can't making a living just using other people's stuff, creator's own wishes be damned.Was anybody in the thread actually arguing this?
>>11780573of fucking course not. god. you guys.. I feel like all the trolls from the now-dead TMNT general came here. Gotta learn how to recognize and ignore them
Man I just want a good treadbolt again, maybe I should buy the old one.
>takara just unrevealed their latest true combiner O don't know what to think Looks very chibi/super deformed and also not at the same time. Wish the drill is bigger with 2.
>>11780448He had just learned his name is a slur in Bongland and changed it to Triceradon at the time.
>>11780579It was a big day for Toyrise announcementsEnough so that >>11780406 got kind of lost in it
>>11780579Pretty impressive, but they give up individual robot modes
>>11780571The ending itself isn't the issue at hand so much as the fact that EA, and the industry as a whole, started pushing anti-consumer narratives hoping to a) reassure investors, and b) drive support sales (we are victim, buy our product).And they're not doing too well these days.So according to anon who has supposedly gone to bed - say I wanted a new Astrotrain - I would be entitled if I'm willing to pay for Hasbro to make a better Astrotrain than that piece of shit they just farted out.
>>11780574No I mean was anybody even pretending to argue that? I don't a single post in this thread where anybody claimed that they wanted to make a living on someone else's shit, even as a joke.
>>11780579I think it looks kinda neat for what it is. I know Getter Robos tend to be literally impossible to actually adapt to physical toy form and retain their combining ability so I don't mind a certain level of jankGetter 2 having 3 legs is unique and cool, you don't really see many mecha with features like that. A few centaurs, but never a tripod. I guess its necessary to counter all that back kibble>>11780583I'm so excited to see Choryujin, the more secondary brave mecha in toyrise the better. They better have a Goldymarg planned soon, GGG isn't complete with his comically oversized hammer
>>11780579This is really cool for whoever likes that design but it's hard miss for me.
>you HAVE to respect the original creator's choiceseh... no
>Hold still ya little scraplet!>>11780185It's weirdly comforting to know an ebgames still exists somewhere.>>11780072>>11780081>>11780083I get why everyone prefers the old toys for source material accuracy and that the more G1 take on the characters isn't for everyone, but it doesn't bother me because of how much TFA pulled from the G1 aesthetic to begin with. I think it's a lot worse with Prime toys, because all the characters on that show had very distinctive (and in my opinion ugly) faces. I couldn't even tell the new Smokescreen was from Prime at first and I watched all of it less than a year ago.
>>11780580>slurcriminy you people with your ironically really judgmental and offensive labelsit's a rude and vulgar term for a hoe. A slattern. A strumpet. a woman of ill repute.
>>11780586it is weird how they think anti-consumer isn't anti-businesseven after like, a solid 15-16 years now of clear evidence. But I guess when you're two-thirds of the way through sawing off your foot, you might as well finish up then start on the other one so you're at least symmetrical.>>11780588yes anon. Meaning the person suggesting that someone DID say that.. stay with me now.. is a troll that is fucking with you.
I know they already did Prime Bulkhead for the Wreck and Rule collection, but I'm hoping for one more based on TFA eventually. They should definitely focus on Cons for a bit though.
>>11780583Sign me up for Toyrise Choryujin. Also the eventual Gekiryujin (because you just know Takara will milk this mold for all its worth). The only possible minus is that the individual bots will likely be TF Deluxe sized to scale with Toyrise GGG.>>11780589Yeah, Goldymarg is pretty much inevitable at this point. The only surprise is that Takara hasn't announced him yet. The one I'm really holding out hope for is Volfogg and Big Vilfogg.
>>11780621I'm in the camp of not caring too much about accuracy too much as long as they still look identifiable and good. It definitely works out better in Animated's case, barring Wreck-Gar. With Prime though, the issue is both that they don't look like the characters, and that the figures just sucked anyways, so it was a double whammy. Smokescreen is thankfully pretty decent, just a solid(and surprisingly tall) carformer even if he doesn't look anything like the show. His arms are a little wimpy though.>>11780636I would love a TFA bulkhead, but I'd be terrified he'd just be a Legacy BH repaint, or he'd end up looking like Skybound's Ozempic Bulkhead. Let him be fat dammit. Guess we'll have to see how Slipstream and Lugnut turn out
>>11780638Yeah Goldymarg's almost assuredly happening, I just need to SEE him, you know? Big Volfog is the one I'd be most interested in seeing how they tackle, since his transformation is the one with probably the most bullshit going on, I gotta see what they think up to make it happen without cheating>you just know Takara will milk this mold for all its worthHopefully they follow through and also do a Tennryujin retool later after the obligatory Gekiryujin redeco. There's also that one from the GGG Vs Betterman crossover that I forgor the name of... Now that they've opened up the floodgates for more than just the main Braves I'm gonna get greedy and want them to do everything
Ever since we got a Optimal Optimus in black I thought it would be cool if we got the rest of the transmetals in their original colorschemed or close to it.
>>11780653Beast Machines Leo Prime. I'm surprised this never happened. They wanted him to become an Alpha Trion repaint instead.
>>11780636>know they already did Prime Bulkhead for the Wreck and Rule collection, but I'm hoping for one more based on TFA eventually. They should definitely focus on Cons for a bit though.They should make the Bulkhead + Construction = Devastator that never happened.
>>11780416Battle Blades was my heart for years.
>>11780653what about the reverse, organic designs using the transmetal colors?IDW Tarantulas is mostly the original's transformation scheme, save for the shoulder pads and spider legs.
>>11780653I don't hate it!I think his wasp-eyes and wings should be shifted considerably more purple (especially the wings) and it only makes sense to me for the cockpit to match, but.. for a quick digibash, I'm sold.
>>11780639I liked Prime way more than I thought I would despite not caring for the general art direction, but yeah, it's just never gonna be one I'm willing to spend money on toys of. That Smokescreen actually does look alright aside from the underdeveloped arms though. How's he supposed to hold the Matrix with those?And TFA Bulkhead being either a repaint or turning out like Anorexiatrain both sound like annoyingly plausible nightmare scenarios, but I guess I'd prefer the former if I had to pick one. I'm hoping they do Lugnut justice, he was one of my favorites. And I really like the new seeker mold, so I'm hoping they can retool that one slightly for Slipstream.>>11780657This would fucking rule though. It sucks so many really cool ideas they had for TFA never got to come to fruition.
>>11780673TFA definitely must hold a record for largest number of unused excellent ideaspossibly because the simplistic art style made it possible to sketch up a billion mockups
>>11780673>How's he supposed to hold the Matrix with those?very carefullyI'm trying to temper my expectations for Lugnut, but he's a genuine top 10 decepticon design for me so if they royally fuck him up I dunno how I'll reactthe TFA seeker design is a little too different from the G1 seeker design to make a good retool even with the generations style change IMO. I'd rather they just have her be a pretool for a dedicated TFA seeker mold with some proportion changes. but even if it's just a straight repaint it'll still be infinitely better than Legacy slipstream. at least give her a cute face like the Legends figure tho...>>11780657I rember that one third party that was teasing an animated Devastator but they only showed renders of dirt boss and then promptly vanished from existence
Collab when?
>>11780638I got jind of burned on SOC ChoryujinButtfuck it, I can take a gamble on a Toyrise oneAnd a Volfogg would be interesting, given his transformation carries no small amount of cheating, but there hasn't been a transforming toy of hin since the originalhttps://youtu.be/gOyIWFKmCb4>>11780643Tenryujin would be neat but probably a whole new toy rather than a remoldSpeaking of floodgates opening this leaves a pretty clear avenue for Gosaurer, which I would buy in a heartbeatAnd on [social media] I saw some pie in the sky speculation for a Toyrise Galaxy Convoy
Siege Astro Train was my first Astro Train and I love that figure.
>>11780687>Prime, I'm not worthy!>I agree, but you're literally the only one here.
Is it okay to use Nova Prime as my Thirteenth? Or even Optimus, since there's no way in hell, I'll be able to locate let alone afford an aftermarket Star Convoy?
>>11780691>Gosaurer, which I would buy in a heartbeatThis general would hate it, they hate transformations that take a long time.
>>11780720Many of the Thirteen figures incorporate design elements from different continuities (Megatronus being the Dreamwave comics design but having the Aligned Continuity Requiem Cannon and so on). None of them are really pulling from specific source material, so there's no reason Star Convoy's space can't be filled by any other Optimus or Optimus equivalent you like.
>>11780720Do whatever you want, manIt's your shelf
Man, I'm not having good luck with headsculpts lately.
>>11780739Hasbro qc strikes again
>>11780720>an unknown who will reveal himself when the time is rightThe real thirteenth should be Rodimus but most of you aren't ready to have that conversation. As far as shelf space goes, you can put whoever wherever (it's your display after all) but I'm totally content to just have them be the 12 (minus Star Convoy) on mine. I don't think that strategy is too rare from what I've seen online.
Yeah, this thing looks undeniably better with Superion as the front.
>>11780741I was already sort of regretting him, since I don't know if they're ever going to do a full reissue for Menasor. Though he'll probably be combined most of the time if that does end up happening anyway I guess.
>Soon...>*insane buzzing mumbling*>Soon Wasp have revenge
what's the most fun transformer to actually transform?
>>11780653I wanted that mold in G1 Starscream colors.
>>11780750its just suprion with a worse head at that point
>>11780767Tragically, Legacy Blitzwing
>>11780724Wish they actually did this more (emphasizing and pulling stuff from different continuities) with Alchemist Prime and Quintus Prime.
>>11780653Might be a worthwhile idea for some of the other characters, but you posted a horrible example. That mold looks so much better in red/black/gold.
>>11780579Getter 1 looks fantastic, Getter 2 would be alright if it wasn't for that pathetically tiny drill, and Getter 3 just looks plain bad. Had they given Jaguar a bigger drill and then used it to bulk out its section of Getter 3, it would fix both combinations.
>>11780626Are you the guy who was crying troll earlier when you were told you misinterpreted someone else's argument?
>>11780653think you could try and do more of them, i love digibashes.
>Damnit, Prime!>I'm a doctor, not a moon shuttle conductor!
>>11780910It's amazing that they packed Ratchet with 2 magnets and 4 tools. If they ever get around to making a new Animated Lockdown his EMP device should be compatible with him too.
>>11780625Only in the british part of the world, lowercase.Slag is the word for industrial waste produced from the smelting process. It has nothing to do with whores.
>>11780911Interesting, because for some reason they were too cheap to pack a second gun for Bumblebee here. I wonder what changed?
Big boys making noise.>>11780772You're not wrong, but I hate the way the folded over arms look to the point that it's still the better option.
>>11780767I find myself fiddling with Missing Link Cordon and Arcee more frequently than anything else on my shelf - they may look janky and weird compared to more modern designs, but they're genuinely fun toys to transform and play around with.
>>11780911You could try this guy
>>11780963What a fucking step down from even the RotF one, let alone the great original. Why even make this?
>>11780965they needed to retool the mold into something I guess
>Let's just say I have a much better appreciation for what you went through back in the day. And why don't want to remember it.>It's not that I don't want to remember, I have to remember. For those who can't...>>11780911It's a very nice number of accessories, especially by modern toy standards. Lockdown is another ond I'm eagerly awaiting and I hope he's got the EMP generator too.>>11780963Though sadly, I feel like he'll get the Wreck-Gar treatment and we're just gonna get this with a new headsculpt and accessory.>>11780923The original had them too, so maybe they felt compelled to include them for toy legacy purposes.
>>11780963I don't know if it's just my copy, but the axlegrease version of this mold always felt like shit to transform and the mandatory partsforming really didn't help
>>11781003I thought you could transform her without the partsforming.
>>11781011You can but the toy doesn't like to
>>11781018you need to bitchslap her into compliance.
>>11780910you know whats funny, Corey Burton did confirm he based Ratchet's voice off DeForest Kelly (and also Rip Torn).
>>11781022I always forget how many characters Corey voiced in Animated. He’s Ratchet, Megatron, Shockwave, Ironhide, and even reprised Brawn for a grunt and Spike for a couple of lines. He’s even the Narrator in the first episode
>>11780745>The real thirteenth should be Rodimusuh based department?
>>11781022That's awesome, I can totally hear it.>>11781024He's one of the all time greats, dude has such insane range.
>>11781022ah yes, "dammit prime I'm a doctor" and such, good fit
>>11780750But in the worst config lolSpin himIt looks retarded with Superion chest
>>11780767Prime Wheeljack has been one of my favs since he dropped. The APC Version just further made me love him
>>11780963Already got my LockdownThere's a kit for that bad release but it still has horrid partsforming
>>11781061but his EMP wont attach to Ratchet
>>11781071Yes it will, you just need the right Ratchet.Pic unrelated, you need the RotF one
Hasbro doesn't want you to see this
>>11780745I’ve always argued this since not only was Rodimus established as being a preordained Prime as far back as the Movie, but G1 comic Primus looks identical to Rodimus, which could be used as a good hint towards Rodimus's fate as the secret Thirteenth Prime>>11781046Corey has always been my inspiration in terms of voice acting. He’s been one of my favorites since childhood
>>11780923Ratchet has tradeoffs from trailbreaker here and there. But also SS budget sucks.
>>11781078I want one for blue flame effect.
Has Skywarp shown up on shelves yet?
>>11780811no>>11780918yes anon I'm fecking aware of that. my point is, even in eng-a-land, it's not a fucking n-bomb. it's just a rude and brusque term for a trashy lady.
>>11781088wooo ice effect!I wish they gave us more stuff like that. I want to give elemental powers to my transformers. especially Tigerhawk. Just give me crackling lightning that flexibly fits around hands, a lightning bolt to emanate outward, some fire effects, a freeze blast (possibly with icicles), and maybe a whirlwind effect.
>>11781090cancelled. Hasbro fucks everyone on the seekers yet again.
>>11781078I don't care for non-characters who don't appear in an animated series.
>>11781134>somehow Classics has returned>>11781139Do animated specials count?
>>11780266Oh! You actually can remove the feet that way? Great, I was hoping it was possible. Yeah this, the wrist-guns (not blast-effect compatible), and the microns need to be in an upgrade kit stat, then he'll legitimately be perfect.>>11780017I like him, he has issues that must be addressed by an upgrade kit sure, but /tfg/ overstates how bad they are. "He's Ruined 5ever", you all are such drama queens lol.I have him and he's perfectly fun to fiddle around with, extremely tight joints and soild modes. Actually he was too tight at first, his shoulders were so firm that trying to pose them would instead unpeg them from his chest - but like Red Alert, after playing with him a bit longer they've become less stiff and don't really do that anymore, they're just satisfyingly tight now.He is overpriced, do not pay $42 for him, but I got him from Walmart for $35 so it stings less that he's a Voyager (he still should've been a Deluxe, but he's one of my fave characters so I was more willing to bite the bullet).Basically I'd definitely recommend him on sale, and doubly so whenever an upgrade kit comes along.
>>11781090No.
>>11780331>>11780333Definitely want both their original decos and SuperLink decos. I still love the first few 30ish eps of SuperLink, it's such an awesome show.
>>11781026>>11780745
>>11781148Why did this guy have to be leader again?
>>11781150God, SuperLink is such a better name than Energon>>11781153He isn’t, they’re Voyagers
>>11780663I wouldn't want to see it but only because I've always been super critical of Hasbros beast sculpts since they cant do fur textures as good as Kenner back in the day but this might be a nitpick. More beast wars and deep cuts are always a good thing (for me Idgaf if anyone buys it or not lol)
Are the 13 technically 13 and 1/4 because of little rod?
if Hasbro does more crossovers with Hot Wheels in the future, which cars would you wanna see?
>>11780876I was making some for the conversation about G1 as beast wars characters too.
>>11781139He showed up in an animated special that acted as the prequel to Beast Wars. He also played a big role in the comic, anc it's stated that he was the dude who invented the virus Megatron used to conquer Cybertron in BM (after Megs stole it from him). He's much less of x literal who than some other characters you see mentioned here (*cough* *cough* Glyph *cough*).
>>11781150>it's such an awesome show.Is it though? Even you say you only love the first 30ish of a 52 episode show.
>>11781150Superlink is better than Energon of course but the animation is still so stiff and I dont like how they sidelined Hot Rod and Jetfire.
>>11781190>>11781204NTA but I like Energon a lot, coming after Armada (which I also really like) but toning down the focus on children characters is really nice
>>11780266>cardboard engineeringa lost art. reminds me of Ben Yi's stuff.
>>11781158the naming has been a promblem in the franchise for some time>>11781178looks prty good.
>>11781190I mean that's a pretty good ratio for a Star Trek or something
>>11781176optimus meyer
>>11781176Zombot
>>11781267Only if they get really weird with it
>>11778100Why are people upset they're just reissuing kingdom rodimus instead of making a new one? He was quite practically synergized to go with SS86 hotrod. They even have similar robot mode greebles, proportions and everything when paired next to each other on the image. Sounds like major autism coming the complaints desu. Just fix the headsculpt like they did with cyclonous and it's good.
>>11781272They're not, stupid. It's already confirmed to be a new mold.
>>11781176Deora II, and Slingshot.
>>11781190See, the UT shows are infamously padded. The last show, Galaxy Force, has it more evenly spread out (lots of stock footage super transformations, etc to stretch out time).Meanwhile the first two shows, they're very lopsided in it.With Micron Legend, you have the intro, and then some extremely episodic lighthearted adventures, until like Ep.23 where "the real plot" kicks in and it's basically a different show.The same thing exists with Super Link but reversed - it carries the momentum from Micron Legend's ending smoothly, but around midway, they start padding it out for the runtime, until Optimus and Galvatron finally face off in the finale. I mean hell, Unicron is defeated in SL at around the 30ep mark, they even play the theme song for the big moment... they dont even do that ~20 eps later for the Galvatron fight lel.
>>11781281By JT?
>>11781310Plot kicks in at 13 imo, but theres still some useless filler (basically every time Jim is on screen)
>>11781334Last year Evan was asked how SS86 would handle Rodimus and he said Takara were eager to redo him entirely. It takes about 2 years for Transformers to be made, Rodimus would have been in or beginning production design when he was asked.
>people paying 200+ for the DMC astrotrainDamn do you guys hate the 86 one THAT much?
>>11781342every time I look at SS86 Astrotrain I'm once again shocked that they thought it looked good enough to release at all, let alone in a line devoted to screen accuracy. it's really just that ugly.
>>11781342Holy scalp
>>11781349If official word came out he was meant to be an update to the original toy and never intended to be in SS86 at all I would not be surprised. His shitty proportions match up well to the original toy TOO well, and then there's the chest fin thing.
>>11781139>>>/co/
>>11781385Figma Samus and it's concequences have been a disaster for this board.
>>11781376This is my thinking as well, he even has the little stubby arms of the G1 toy.
>>11781376So an attempt at making a Missing Link Astrotrain that they somehow fucked up and then tried to cut their losses by passing him off as SS86? That... actually seems plausible.
>>11781376Aren't the fins made with unpaintable plastic? And the torso too?
>>11781152Fun to imagine this is what Hot Rod saw when ascended to Rodimus.
>>11781342Maybe theyll do a rerelease of DMC astrotrain or maybe do a retool with less greebling now.....
Even the people who preordered Astrotrain are talking mad shit.
>>11781376Why though? Who was asking for a toy astrotrain remake?
>>11781471the designer
>>11781471That color scheme is awesome, cmon anon
>>11781342Maybe I can sell off my Siege one onto some poor sucker.
>>11781489he's sold on ebay for ~$100 recently so yeah, easily
>>11781342>>11781489>>11781496>TFW have 3 siege Astrotrains nowDo I really sell off the original?
>>11781500Sell it to me, pls not to rape prices
Preordered the DCS Insecticons set from EE thinking it would be another month or two before they got them in stock, but it looks like they just shipped. Something to look forward to in the near future I guess.
>>11781460Takara doesn't seem to re-release things very often.. maybe a few of the Masterpieces get rereleased if a companion one comes out but who knows if they see the backlash to 86 and decide to rerelease Triple Threat.or do a stand-alone release
20+ years ago there was a webcomic that recreated the '86 movie with G1 toys in the creator's living room. Anyone remember what I'm talking about, or if it still exists?
>>11781523Man, I hope we get more ML minibots
Legacy Needlenose is so good.
>>11781527Yeah, but I heard that his brother, Needledick, consistently underperforms, particularly with the ladies.
>>11781529That's a rude (but probably accurate) thing to call Windsweeper.
>>11781527>>11781534I prefer Windsweeper's deco but it's so lame that he just inherited Needlenose's targetmasters instead of being a proper triggercon
>>11781536Yeah, I was just thinking about how much nicer the silver looks for the chest piece when I was taking that pic, but making him a targetmaster was always a bizarre choice to me too.
>>11781523The only sites I know of from back then that are still up are BWTF, Unicron Bros, and some guys kitbashes.
>>11781342An ebay listing from Walky? That piece of crap is trying to pawn off his loose DC Astrotrain for nearly 200 bucks?!?
One last shill pic for Ratchet as the thread winds down, because I think his weapon storage is pretty neat.
>>11781544for a second, this looked super hollow in back, then I looked more closely
>>11781543That’s because it’s an auction instead of a direct sale. People are bidding on it
Got these in the mail today. Giant Planet Mini-Con Team, from Cybertron.
>>11781560Real group of weirdos. Love their unorthodox body types across the board, especially Deepdive in the back and his weird lanky alien physique.
>>11781561His metallic tribal tattoo and beautiful alt mode deserves its own pic! Love this guy, super happy I could grab them for cheap.
>>11781561yeah this.. this roughly works. I think the weird droopy chest one could use a little work, but I like them.
>>11781523As Cybertron Turns? It doesn't adapt only the movie so maybe that's not it, but if you remember Optimus being obsessed with Twinkies and Unicron being a Great Mazinger toy that's the one. Love that comic, read it many times.It stayed online for a really long time too, this is the first time I don't seem to be able to find it.
>>11781569His chest feels like it should fold down a little more than it does, he's kinda rough to balance with that huge chest, limited leg articulation and massive arms. His weird skate/ski feet help out a bit with that, but I had him off them for the pics just to get him into a slightly more dynamic pose. But then... They're minicons, they're not really articulation demons.
>>11781571yeah exactlyi wish more mini-guys used binary fusion to make better robot modes.
>>11781561Woah that crane guy has the coolest transformation ever. We desperately need more transformers that aren't just folding their legs and lying down.
>>11781574Yeah, his truckbed jackknifing and revealing the head made me smile so much when I started fiddling with him. Wish he had elbows, but he's got knees which give him a surprising amount of poseability all things considered. And he's got rolling wheels!
>There's only one bot I trust...me.
>>11781627Prowl really needs a liposuction on those thighs.
>>11781560These were some of my favorite mini-cons as a kid.
>>11781574This is why minicons>micromasters
>>11781258This and a Spammobile would be sick
>>11781574One of the military team molds splits and rotates lengthwise to get to robot mode.
>>11781657Minicons are GoBotsMicromasters are Transformers
The elites don't want you to know that minicons are micromasters.
New Hot Wheels
New thread>>11781736>>11781736
>>11781527I'm pissed that 2/3rds of this trio turned out to be so good, that quake just HAD to shit the bed. I would have preferred if they waited for a brawl redeco, because despite the voyager pricing, at least he'd turn into a proper tank?
>>11780017Shit remake>>11780654Woah, it looks SO good
>>11780416I always thought High Octane from Age of Extinction was pretty cool.
