ITT: Spawn Toys
Stop spamming the board Jarret.
Does anyone careLike for real
>>11786199The wave sold out in multiple places like Amazon
>>11786199On this board of mostly weebs furious at that kuso gaijin MacuFarennu for mogging their glorious imports? Probably they only care insomuch as they're angry about it existing.
Can we just make a Mcfarlane General at this point? He has a bunch of licenses that dont really fit into other threads.
>>11786270We used to have McFarlane generals on /toy/, but they died because there are only two retards that actually like his figures, and everyone else that buys them only does so begrudgingly because no other company has the license or because they saw them on clearance and had some change in their pocket.Really though, we have an entire board that covers everything McFarlane related from his toys to Image comics to his collection of baseballs signed by drug cheats.>>>/trash/
Spawn III is still the best Spawn toy ever made. Just wish they made it easier to change the batteries.
>>11786332Its articulation is worse than mk11 spawn and the paint isnt really better since III was before mcfarlane became really good at paint apps. Thoughts?
>>11786142I'd be ok with a re issue of the first figures, it won't happen but it's an idea.
>>11786199todd doesn't, and it shows.
>>11786614The first Spawn universe figs or the og 90s figs?
>>11786657This latest wave is better than that sad sack reaper and devastator wave
>>11786839The 90s was what I was thinking. They were simple but had gimmicks and to me were kinda unique when compared to Toy Biz. Like I said, it won't happen but I bet I'm not the only person who would at least be interested in the idea. Shit, if Todd could get Rob to sign off on it if even like to see those youngblood figures from the 90s.
>>11786840I'm saying these 3 are 80% reuse with no accessories at all. yes, they look infinitely better.still, wings of redemption is king spawn with a new boot and head, llanso is plague with bone spikes and a new head, nightmare spawn is the previous nightmare but with gauntlets, cape and a new head. plus, these were 25 when they were new molds. how much now? 40? 45?
>>11786872King spawn was bloated with demons and guns, so it was the higher price point. Point is still valid though.
>>11786142lol that boot. It sort of worked in the comics, but when you have it on a figure with realistic proportions it just looks like he stepped in a trash can
>>11786199If he continued from that canceled covers set that he started turning into full resin statues. I fucking hate his articulation especially on Spawn. There was a lot of good ones left to do and I suspect if he went back the old way with interchangeable parts he would be pleasantly surprised with the sales. I'm betting some Chinese 3D printer will beat him to it in a few years on Temu.
>>11786908They just look like shit toys without the dynamic poses.
>>11786857You can still get many of those old figures sealed for good prices on ebay. In many cases less than what Todd would now charge. Not the rarer ones from the staction era though. I rather doubt they still have the tooling to redo them though.>>11786872They're $30, and yes I know there's a lot of reuse. Given the way McFarlane Toys is run now with DCMV I'm surprised there's as much new here as there is.-I believe WoR also has a new pouch upper leg (for some reason; its accurate to nothing as far as I know) and diaper.-Nightmare Spawn has a new diaper, a new left arm in addition to the gauntlet as it appears to be single jointed rather than double (which is a pain point but the original had a single jointed right arm even though it just had that dinky gauntlet)The fact Nightmare Spawn isn't digitigrade is also onerous.No one should've bought that original Nightmare Spawn though so this is sort of a new offering to discerning buyers, the first mold use of Nightmare Spawn was awful, same for the King Spawn given its price. That said I don't think WoR Spawn is a good value even at $30 for people who didnt get that King Spawn as the wings will destroy any posability he has and the figure isn't at all accurate to the art.CotS/llanso might have been serviceable if the bone portions on the legs weren't just painted on. Feels like they would've been better to just leave those cross leg paint apps off and call it a "variation" or "interpretation" even if it isn't as accurate (not like its very accurate now anyway). In the comic his costume changed quite a lot panel to panel over the 4 issues it was in if I recall.
I can't even imagine why anyone bought this version. Although the flame effects on it are interesting--about the only thing. I don't fully get how they did that without either tampography (which this surface seems too uneven and rough to be) or actually paying a Chinese man for a ton of brush strokes to do it (which I very much doubt they would).
>>11786199>Does anyone carethe /toy/trolls as you can see in this thread>>11786328kek, word
I don't think we ever got a new Malebolgia toy since the Mutations wave from the early-2000s.
>Loved Violator I, II and III Raven Spawn and Curse of Spawn figs because they're edgy and cool designs even if the articulation wasn't great>New figures looks like utter shitThanks, todd.
>>11786937Spoilers for Spawn 375:---Malebolgia transforms into a Carnotaurus. I'm not joking. The shark has been jumped that badly.
>>11786942He still can't differentiate between the different fandoms he takes licenses from that aren't sportsball. He seemed to understand Halo fans well enough and then he makes Walking Dead figures with nothing but statue zombies.
>>11786964Thats because he isn't a part of the nonsportsball fandoms. So he doesn't know what they want.
>>11786872Ive been collecting the dcmv line for a for a few years now and yeah, the reuse can be pretty bad and the obvious lack of any accessories (sometimes you just get a spare set of hands, hands that are used across practically every line McFarlane Toys does) while continuously raising prices is a nasty deal. You'd think the Batman repaints would be bringing in the cash to fund the inclusion of accessories or new pieces since multiverse is very Batman focused. I'm kinda glad I'm basically done collecting the series, Todd's figures usually look good but it seems like they are trying to find some spot in-between staction figures and action figures that they never quite got right. >>11786918Yeah, I've been looking at those and will likely start collecting them soon. I've got a few of them already but what I like about them and something that is missing from Todd's stuff is their playability. You look at those early figures and you know you can play with them. As far as the later stuff goes, I recently bought Cry for Dawn and unfortunately her arm broke. There are maybe three poas on the figure I had one just snap right off. It's fixable but still, I was bummed that a nib 20 year old figure broke.
>>11786983Figures still age even in the package so that unfortunately isn't unexpected. Time is relentless. There are also some waves of vintage Spawn figures that tend to get brittle. These are very poorly documented on the web. But I know I had 2 figures break at joints on figures from the Interlink Spawn series. And I didn't even try to build this thing, so it wasn't due to excess weight or anything. My guess is either these are more susceptible to breaking or just bad luck. But out of 3 breaks I had, 2 were in that wave.The earlier 1994-1998 figures sometimes feel like the joints need to be handled with care and so I do, but it can be a luck of the draw and storage temps and such as some feel fine.
>>11786937The old ones still hold up. Bought him and a Violator II because I didn't care for the new one.
>>11786142That looks alright. I just wish that McFarlane would make better efforts to conceal elbow pins.>>11786942>even if the articulation wasn't greatThey really did have a lot of figures like that.
>>11786199Yep. Me.
>>11787350Today with that paint, that figure would cost $50. Even though it has like 1 poa. You can see how inflation for these has far outpaced baseline inflation
>>11787426It has POA at the hips, but they're pretty much useless. It also has POA at the wrists, upper arms, shoulders, and head.
>>11787000I just learned this existed in the past few weeks, still trying to understand how they thought this was a viable idea. It's an exciting idea, a fun idea but how did they expect this to work in the real world.
>>11787433Wow, they are really well hidden besides the hips
>>11787772That's the beauty of small privately owned toy companies back then , they could take bizarre risks on just a crazy idea. Todd has lost that. Also even if no one wanted to build it, the individual figures themselves were cool.
>>11787806>That's the beauty of small privately owned toy companies back then , they could take bizarre risks on just a crazy idea.That's only half of the reason why crazy shit like that was possible back then. Small privately owned companies could do weird cool shit like that because there were retailers who wanted to stock weird cool shit.Toys R US, Kay Bee Toys, Suncoast/SamGoody/Wherehouse/etc don't exist anymore, who were the biggest buyers for that type of weird cool shit, so a lot of toy companies went out of business (like Palisades, Blue Box, etc) or quit making niche shit like the weird cool shit McFarlane Toys made (the Spawn line died because of Suncoast/KB's bankruptsiesies in the later 00s)The only reason the Spawn line came back was because McFarlane used the Kickstarters to point to retailers that there was an audience for that still.
My buddy in highschool would buy 2 of every spawn figure and keep them on card. This was late 90s. He looked at that shit like an investment. I don't think it paid off.
>>11788195Why did people think mass produced toys from the 90s would be worth more than maybe 3x msrp down the line? Certainly not worth hoarding.
>>11788168Here's what's odd about this. The stores could only buy that stuff because there were customers out there willing to buy it from them. So where did that market go when those retailers closed? Imports?
>>11788439Because the late 90s is when Gen-X got back into collecting toys hard and heavy, so they operated under the assumption that everything's collectible and valuable in the long ruin. Pokemon cards and POTF2 vehicles were really the only things they were right about, though.
>>11786937>>11786953Did they ever make a toy for the weird hyena movie version?
>>11788636Wanda? nop, sorry
>>11787806>>11788168>That list of retailers You know Suncoast was a place I would buy the few figures I bought then since I was mostly interested in comics and anime at the time. I knew they were niche but I guess since I saw them so often at these types of stores I didn't realize that the audience was rather small compared to transformers for example. I know I saw spawn on the pegs at Walmart and Kmart etc but you had to go the mall for movie maniacs or anything above a certain price point. >>11788195Yeah, an older kid I knew who was in high school was really really really into collecting spawn figures. I remember asking him how he dealt with the smell that spawn figures gave off after opening back then and he said he doesn't open them. I was confused af, like you spent $14 on a toy and didn't open it? He taught me how to save time by putting fries on your burger at lunch one day, thanks Steven. >>11788439The comic book collecting/investing bubble hadn't yet burst. I think powers of the force was the toy line where things started to cool down over potential value.
>>11786142I love spawn but i hate how shoddy in QC alot of the older spawn figures tend to be
>>11788442>So where did that market go when those retailers closed?If customers can't find what they want, the market effectively dies (or goes into hibernation)Think of GI Joe when ToysRUs went bankrupt and closed down. TRU could no longer pay its bills, so Hasbro stopped producing GI Joes for 4 years. Despite ~3 years of GI Joe's success as a niche line with other online retailers too, they stopped altogether. Nothing out there to replace them, especially since TRU was the only other place to find generic military army men, because Target stopped carrying them too.And i mentinoed McFarlane using Kickstarter to show retailers that Spawn was still popular, so there was pent up demand for over a decade.> Imports?Funny enough, Suncoast/etc was also a place for imports. Those video stores sold figurines and repackaged blind box toys, but carried a few action figures too. KB carried stuff like Microman. So there was a huge decline in imports too and a lot of distributors who dealt with imports disappeared. Their decline is why you saw a bunch of Revoltechs going for ~$10 in the late00s/early10s.So without retail support, lots of products disappeared, even if there's a market and big fanbase for it. Scale is very important.>>11788656comic bubble already burst by 1995. 1994 was when everything was collapsing/failing.Star Wars and McFarlane Toys came out in 1995, so i think people buying toys was just the next NEW THING for people to "invest" in.
>>11788785>And i mentinoed McFarlane using Kickstarter to show retailers that Spawn was still popular, so there was pent up demand for over a decade.McFarlane was releasing Spawn figures in the colored box top line years before the current spawn line and the kickstarter was ever launched.A lot of the push for the new stuff coincided with the comic hitting issue 300, and the launch of the 5 or 6 spinoffs.
>>11788195Should have bought Movie Maniacs The Thing
>>11788885>McFarlane was releasing Spawn figures in the colored box top line years before the current spawn line and the kickstarter was ever launched.like two or three and they went nowhere. years passed between that and the kickstarter.
>>11788885That happened after a 6-7 year hibernation and that was mainly propped up by TRU. Once TRU disappeared, so did the Color Tops. They tried to get Walgreeens to carry them afterward, but even Hasbro petered on that too.IF you look at Palisades, Blue Box and other toy companies that Suncoast and whatever companies were affected by KB shutting down, they tried to stick around by seeking other avenues too, but because KB/Suncoast/Wherehouse/etc were such big supporters, whatever is left over wasn't enough to keep those toylines and toy companies going. >new stuff coincided with the comic hitting issue 300McFarlane still used the kickstarter to show that there was demand though, hence retailers not being the one who carried the super nice figure, but the cheaper budget stuff.I'm sure McFarlane constantly pushes his Spawn stuff to retailers on a yearly basis, because it's a waste of his property otherwise and who knows how much shit goes unreleased or unmade due to retailers not wanting it.
>>11788895He also had a bunch of Spawn figures in the MK11 line. I had a bitch of a time trying to find that one, standard Spawn. Coincidentally, I STILL think that is the best modern Spawn figure.>>11788934>McFarlane still used the kickstarter to show that there was demand thoughMcFarlane is such an eccentric weirdo that I wouldn't be surprised if he would actually pay retailers just to carry his Spawn line. The comic, for all intents and purposes, should have been cancelled at least 15-20 years ago. There was a period of about a year where they were barely printing 10000 copies of each book. Any other company and/or sane person would have axed a book like that, but he had the money to keep it going since it is largely just a vanity--er, "passion" project at this point.The actual dedicated Spawn toyline mostly sucked. The first two waves or so were probably the best ones, and even those were kinda lame since they were based on the modern shit rather than the old characters and designs from the 90s.Its funny since the color box tops, the MK11, and the figures he released that were just the CoD skin spawns (or whatever) were better than anything he actually did for the dedicated Spawn line.
I just want a good modern spawn figure that doesn't have the stupid oversized boot, asymettrial spike bands, and crotch skull. Is that really so much to ask for?
>>11788951>printing 10000 copies of each book. Any other company and/or sane person would have axed a book like thatYou must be a DCasual, because a lot of comic books don't get more than that, especially indie shit. Do you also think Erik Larsen's Savage Dragon is a vanity project, because he's only getting 5k in print? Cerebus was sub-8,000 most of its time. There's a ton of nobodies who are happy with 1,000-5,000 in sales, like that Steve Ditko guy. Maybe you heard of him? Used to work at Marvel and then "disappeared" for 20 years despite constantly doing work on his indie comics?If you're not part of the big 2 after the 90s, your comic sales drop off dramatically, because that's how wild the bubble was back then.Even GI Joe at IDW was getting around 10k. Transformers routinely got to that point too. And as for paying retailers, it wasn't normal until NECA opened up the door for consignment sales and even then, that's mostly to get into Target (did walmart make them pay too? Who knows).But considering McFarlane already had their foot in the door at Target selling Walking Dead and Call of Duty shit, i doubt it. Otherwise, he wouldn't have used the Kickstarter to market his Spawn line to Walmart and Target.McFarlane is just like any other creator and just wants his characters to succeed, and his designs are great enough to continue standing out over 30 years later. And like most comic characters, it needs mainstream media, that isn't poorly done, to become mainstream popular,
>>11788951>There was a period of about a year where they were barely printing 10000 copies of each book. Any other company and/or sane person would have axed a book like thatwhen you're not under disney or warner this is a big success and makes you way more money than selling double that under a major publisher oh goddamnit i just realized im on the same side as subjectanon again motherfucker
>>11788977Savage Dragon and Cerebus weren't even close to the popularity of Spawn, though. Image was propped almost entirely on Spawn for like a decade at least. The early copies of Spawn were selling millions of issues. The expectations were way higher than anything else at Image.And Larson was just as much of an eccentric weirdo as McFarlane. This is the same guy who got buttmad when everyone at Image exchanged books for a month and guest-drew someone else's title, and Larson didn't want that and wanted all consecutive issues drawn himself, so he went back and retconned that issue and redrew it himself. Also, yeah, Savage Dragon pretty much is a vanity project for him.And Cerebus is almost so irrelevant that just about the only way Sim can make any money these days is because he has the deal with McFarlane to be able to print Spawn #10 any time he wants, so he'll just draw a new cover and drop it on a crowd funding campaign so there is more bait for people to chew on.If McFarlane has the money to throw at his pet project for decades, then more power to him. I am legitimately happy that he has the ability to do that, but I call it a vanity project because the only thing he cares about these days is dragging its zombie corpse around and parading the fact that it is the longest running indie-own book, or whatever. He plastered that banner on every copy of Spawn for at least a couple years. Spawn could have legitimately ended at like issue 50 or 100, and nothing of any value would have been lost. About the only good thing to come out of the comic since then is some cool Spawn designs.
>>11788989stop rationalizing a new argument, retard.You're were talking about how 10,000 is so worthless it might as well be canceled, when a ton of creators would wish to get that much, despite those creators getting even fewer sales making a good living from that.>cool Spawn designs.In the end, that's all that really matters, hence his Call of Duty skins still showing up in the current games and toy sales seemingly good enough to continue the toyline.Personally, I only owned the Cerebus issue of Spawn for the longest time and mainly bought their toys just because of the cool as weird shit that they produced (i later bought some Spawn trades because i heard some cool shit actually happened, but it was just meh edgy shit. don't regret it though because cool art is cool). If a movie ever takes off, I'll look forward to even more cool weird shit.
>>11788989>Spawn could have legitimately ended at like issue 50 or 100There was some decent stuff in the 50-100 run. It should have ended at #100 when he killed Malebolgia. I dropped it within a few issues of 100 because it was going nowhere and never picked it up again.
>>11788975The crotch skull was even in the old design from issue 1-31. not sure how you'd get a toy without it
>>11788975I don't get Todd's obsession with mis-matched shoes. It must be some sort of weird fetish.
I recently read Spawn 1-164 and while the story and writing in general does very little for me (hence why I stopped at the end of Armageddon) I absolutely adore that mid-late 90's XXX-TREEM design style. I considered getting this to commemorate my time with the series, seeing as it's directly designed after one of my favorite covers of the series that really embodies that style. I mostly hear negative things about McFarlane toys nowadays, but I have a Trigun Maximum figure of theirs from around the same time with around the same amount of accessories and I have no complaints with it at all. I figured maybe you people in here would know better, or have some thoughts in general.
>>11789849I also came across this guy when searching for the name of the figure and while I have no fucking clue what his deal is (usually a prerequisite before I buy a toy of a character) I do really fuck with cyborg animals and these seem really cheap. Cheap for a good reason or just overlooked, does anyone know?
>>11789849I used to own him. The only thing I hated were the v-cut hips that are useless and lack of knees. The closest thing to a QC issue I had with him was that his minigun wasn't very secure attached to his back. Never had anything break, no joints were loose. Overall, he was pretty good. I would recommend, and to prove my lack of bias, there are a few Spawn figures from the late 90s that I'd warn you to avoid. God, Cyber Manga Violator was a figure I wanted to love, but he was such a floppy piece of shit.
>>11789865>lack of kneesThat's honestly baffling to me considering the cover he's based on. What a shame! Still, considering you can find it sealed for under $20 maybe that's a fair compromise...
>>11789852Apart from Spawn, that whole wave was all cybernetic animals.https://mcfarlane.com/toys/series/spawn-series-15/I only got Cyber Spawn from that wave. I'm not sure what the quality on the gator was like, but I'm pretty sure most of that wave was just really unpopular, which is why most of them can be found cheap these days. I remember the ostrich one pegwarming at one of my local stores for forever.
>>11789873Really hard for me to not love these, honestly. Surprised they didn't fly off the shelves, but hey, more for me! No clue how or where I'd display them so they're probably bad impulse buys but they seem cheap and plentiful so I'll happily add them to the infinite wishlist.
>>11789852>Cheap for a good reason or just overlooked, does anyone know?Collectors were the problem. It's the same as the Star Wars stuff from this era. Everyone kept everything MOC/MISB to where today there's so damn much of it that it's impossible for it to be worth anything.And I had the ostrich and rhino from that series.
>>11789878Getting good poses out of quadrupeds seem to be pretty difficult though
>>11790520It doesn't seem like they do much except move the head and cannons, but the sculpt and paint apps look very good
>>11787806I remember them re-releasing these figures as a non spawn Cyborg series
I always thought Mandarin Spawn looks cool. What's the best version?
>>11790933I'm partial to the Spawn Reborn series 2 version. The jade green on the bone white color scheme does things to me.
>>11790934Green on white looks really good!
>>11790931Cyber Units. I think they did them in a couple of decos. Metallic blue and I think a dark red. The metallic blue deco was much more striking than their original deco.
>>11789849I tried reading Spawn a while back after hearing good things about it for years, I didn't get further than issue 11. It was so far up its own ass and such little of substance happened, I have no idea how it became a hit beyond the spectacle at the time of "it's not marvel or DC!"When is the comic supposed to get good or at least decent?
>>11791245The pacing in earöy Spawn is rough, to say the least. I'd say issue 20-24, the first proper "arc", is where it picks up a little. Keep in mind I'm far from a huge fan of it as a whole. My favorite part is The Devil Inside (#77-87) but a lot of people like the Armageddon arc (#150-164) but I found that to be an insane slog. FWIW both #100 and #164 are pretty good points to end on if you get bored.
>>11791245Read Violator mini, Violator vs Badrock and Blood Feud 1-4
>>11791245I liked the issue 16-18 arc. Really liked the issue 27-28 and 31-32 arcs.
