HasLab Kinokaiser has started shipping! Have you received yours yet?Also, Thunderwing is next year's Commander class figure! Are you glad Nexus Prime got cucked once again?Previous:>>11789955
This is a long shot. Does anybody know in which of Thew's Transformers review he says something is "a bit Naked Lunch, isn't it?"? I recently watched that movie and want to finally get the reference. I think it was one of the older reviews.
>>11792899>>11792919I expected you'd do it a cheapo way, with an actual yknow 'radar sweep' motion. But good on you putting in the work.
>>11792917Mine will ship out just in time for the big manufacturing fuck up to be revealed.
>>11792917>Are you glad Nexus Prime got cucked once again?Surely nobody expected him to be a commander class? Really it's Defensor who got robbed
>>11792938They really could've just did a mini combiner and everyone would've been happy
>>11792940I wouldve bought it if it actually had heatwave instead
>>11792938>Really it's Defensor who got robbedDoes anyone actually care about Autobot combiners?
>>11792930so people have to buy YET ANOTHER figure?So glad I decided not to collect these guys
>>11792942Only in how they serve as foil to the combaticons
How big do you think he'll be? In the comics he looks to be a similar height to powermaster optimus.
>>11792889If they did picrel as a modern leader class I'd have to pick him up, wouldnt step on the haslabs toes either
>>11792942I only like computron
>>11792956Magmatron probably
>>11792956I really gotta keep going with the Marvel UK stuff. This guy seems fucking badass.
>>11792976This is normal Marvel US.
>>11792940>they could have made it $80 dogshit Oh I would have been so so happy!
>>11792956Since he isn't a nu-titan hopefully he's at least got the mass of jetfire, though since he'll probably be the most fuckered up amalgamation of shit nobody wants he'll be Optimus/Megatron sized in his shell and his brute mode will be large leader sized.
>>11792979It's mostly 80's hokey marvel writing with the occasional memorable Furman dialog. The overarching story is average, and there are a lot of strange liberties taken where lore and characterizations change issue to issue.Lots of uncreative ultra violence and character death, and the attempt to shoehorn every toy possible into somewhere results in a monstrous number of extremely under developed characters.As inconsistent as early idw is, Stormbringer Thunderwing is the definitive version to me. Stormbringer itself is also a pretty solid transformers comic on its own and works great as a standalone story.
>>11792982It would mog the nexus we got by being a combiner instead of one guy. Who thought that was a good idea.
>>11792988did you mean to respond to someone else
Fossilizers, weaponizers, rocksNew gimmick line when
>>11792995Techno Organics that posses other figures ala The Thing. With touches of space barnacles and Quintesson designs.Also id love to see the Robosmasher, Vok, a stand alone Transmutate figure, and The Dweller in this horror line.
Since that was a Haslab joint, what are the QCs people are finding on their copies?
Quake's like 20 USDIs he good or still dogshit
>>11792988Stormbringer Thunderwing is a cool design, but he's more of a mindless monster than an actual character in most of that story. In the old Marvel comics, there was at least something interesting in the idea that he was a Decepticon with a strong enough affinity for the matrix that he could properly wield its power for doing more than just creating new robots. Because there's actual characterization there, for that reason alone I personally consider Marvel Thunderwing to be the definitive version of the character. But like I said, Strormbringer Thunderwing had a great design, so I'd be in favor of seeing elements of that incorporated into his new commander class toy, kinda like they did with his old deluxe figure from 15 years ago. The biggest question will be whether they'll make full use of the larger size class to include his inner robot, or if they'll give him the ability to power up into his final form from Stormbringer. Either (or both) sounds fun to me.
Finally got Liege Maximo so my 13 Primes are complete.
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>>11793020The tank is laughable bullshit, but I honestly like the robot mode. Same with Skullgrin.
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dude just make a gallery somewhere, no one wants you to spam the threads with your endless stream of photos and customslike, literally, what the fuck, dude
>>11793028>>11793033Can the turret at least rotate, are the targetmasters even worth having
>>11793070I forget, I only put him in tank mode once and thought 'yeah, never doing this again'. I'll take some pics in both modes when I get home though. I barely did anything with him after taking him out of the box and it'll be a good excuse to mess around with him.
Thankfully I don't think I've ever engaged with any fiction that gave a fuck about the thirteen primes, so I have no interest in collecting them and no fomo
>was hoping they change the skirts on liokaiser from the one piece to two piece>Still the same after all these yearsYou know what. I think I finally find it within myself to be ok with this.The waist movement is not connected to the abdomen-pevlic but the lower crotch. Because of the center piece, they can't really cut the skirt without the center piece looking weird in different positions. And they can't really remove the center part by having it be part of the moving waist or it would hit the skirts on the side and lock the waist in. As to why they have to put the articulation point in lower crotch? It is probably because if they did not do that, Garuga wouldn't able to form the abdomenStill. Could be better but I am starting to warm up to it.
>>11793083That just means when you eventually do get exposed you run the risk of regretting not getting into them earlier and now suffer late tax.
>>11793083I never have either, I just bought them because they look like cool toys. Though in retrospect, I probably could have been good with Star Convoy, Megatronus and Liege. Unfortunately, I suffer from the affliction that is completionism.
>>11793083that's flawed logicsomeone who has never seen any fiction of them can still be interested in themsome who has seen fiction of them can be disinterested in them
>>11793090yeah. I would have been into onyx prime if they'd just done a better job with him.
>>11793074Well I hope it doesn't suck ass, looking forward to it, thank you
>>11793025Honestly, just have the inner robot look like og Thunderwing while the shell is Stormbringer Thunderwing.
>>11792942I actually have a soft spot for Superion as he was the first combiner I got as a little kid.
>>11792917Good god that's ugly
Brother34 Image postsYou're %70 of them. Come on now
>>11793069>>11793108Anon just got a little excited about his new toy. It happens. Friendly bit of advice that I only recently put into practice myself though: collating images is a nice way to incorporate multiple shots while conserving the thread image count. That way everyone gets more of a chance to post their own stuff.
>>11793107Looks how Lio should to me, it could be worse. What the fuck were they smoking when they designed these proportions.
>>11793069NTA, but i'd rather have someone posting pics of actual toys (you know, what this toy board is about) than another 100 posts of schizos whining about tfwiki and culture war bullshit.
>>11793131or we could just do neither. you don't have to choose between spam or bait.
>>11793114I’ve never understood the audience for the God Fire Convoy Haslab. It’s not to scale with the original figure, so you can’t use it as a replacement, it’s not to scale with Generations, so you can’t fit it in with the rest of your collection, and it’s not to scale with Masterpiece, so you can’t display it with the other high end toys. Where is this guy supposed to go?
>>11792861I for one think Kingdom Rodimus is kind of crap, but I'm not confident the new one will be better so much as just different. Hasbro is hard to predict, though. It could end up worse. I never would have imagined that the new Laser Optimus would be so awful, for example.
>>11793134you're too focused on scale
>>11793134Nah he's a big figure and one of the rare cases of an upscale in these modern times where bots get smaller and more expensive for what you get. While God Fire Convoy is expensive as fuck at least he is fuckheug and I at least appreciate him for that in spite of the problems the toy suffers. I just wish the other Convoy's similarly don't get downscaled too much. I can already see them trying to downscale Grand Convoy to fit in the Commander budget even though in Super Mode he should be as big as Ultra Magnus and that worries me.
>>11793132Why are you so offended by someone posting pictures of toys on the /toy image board?
>>11793134"It's the only Fire Convoy makeover we're gonna get" was a big part of it, I imagine, which is why the inital reveal suckerpunched me. Perspective is a funny thing.
>>11793134Just like Studio Magnus, they decided to make HUGE because "dude the car carrier has to carry cars". Even if every transformer collector is a robot mode only autist.
>>11793134I like God Fire Convoy, I pussed out on the encore due to QC, and I don't care about scale as long as things are close enough in my mental mapping. God Magnus and the combination not being a brick is a decent bonus.
New Legends new chapter has:>Noisemaze and Doubleface teaming up as Team Sideways>Nemesis Star Convoy tearing Cybertron in half in visual homage to IDW's Unicron story>Nexus Prime using Silverbolt's frame in jet mode>G1 Unicron's spark revived by Micron Legend/Superlink's Unicron's power fighting Nemesis Star Convoy created through G1 Optimus Prime's corpse and Micron/Superlink Unicron's spark guided by Team Shockwave (Unicron's mind)>ends with tease that next chapter is titled Liege Maximo's AmbitionIt's impressive that Sakamoto is able to work so much fan wank into anything remotely coherent.>>11793134Have you considered it's just a cool toy?
>>11792942I guarantee you more people know Superion, Defensor and Computron than know Thunderwing.
>>11793211Sakamoto is one of the GOATs.
>>11793135>new Laser OptimusIt's impressive that they managed to fuck it so hard. Even the RTS deluxe is more ambitious and impressive than any update we've gotten in WFC/Legacy/AOTP.
star convoy should have been smaller and a commander classwhy is there not a single commander in the 13 anyways
>>11793188>dude the car carrier has to carry carsthat's supposed to be a bad thing...?>>11793233I love that little RTS laser prime, all I want is a version of it that's upscaled and has more range in his hips and knees. I remember Maketoys did something like that a looong time ago
>>11792982>>$200+ dogshit we got now is way bettershills gonna shill
>>11793211>Nemesis Leo Prime is Unicronhuh?
>>11793239Star Convoy is the perfect size, he's meant to be a base for micro masters.
>>11793276you do remember that they stopped doing micromasters right? and the fact that they locked one of the most popular micromaster teams behind a haslab pay to play haslab dlc is egregious.
>>11793239They should have waited on Onslaught and made Nexus a Commander like >>11792940. That way they could also do Gen Selects versions of Bruticus Maximus and Superion Maximus>>11793239>>11793279A Commander scale Star Convoy already exists with the Gen Selects toy, if they’re going to make another one they might as well make one that has similar gimmicks to the old one
>>11793112>conserving the thread image count.Only retards care about this. I'd rather have a thread filled with bad pictures than bad discussion, which is what we usually have.
>>11793279>you do remember that they stopped doing micromasters right?That doesn't mean every single micromaster has disappeared from people's collections. Star Convoy still being compatible with older gimmicks like micromasters and titanmasters is good, same as keeping the ramp connections. All baseformers should be like that.
>>11793276I don't mind them making Star Convoy larger to fit more Micromasters, but upscaling Hot Rod too is a crime and totally diminishes your point.
I decided to take the plunge and get a modern combiner since I really liked Bruticus in the Wfc game I went for him. Brawl arrived and I really like him even as a solo figure, got blast off coming tomorrow so i just need to keep a eye out for vortex at a good price while I wait for the other two to come out in the UK.
>>11793265Dark Amber Leo Prime was created a few years ago in JP from instilling Angolmois Energy in Lio Convoy's corpse.
>>11793139>most toy posting is good, so all toy posting is goodcome on, anon, you can be smarter than that.
The real reason Thunderwing is a Commander is because he's frameslop, they're doing Thunder Mayhem. He's an Onslaught retool.
>>11793279It's almost hilarious. What was considered the cheap entry point for children and new fans, of the franchise for over 20 years has been gutted entirely from retail in favor of scout sized deluxes and $300 boxsets. Someone really needs to put these market research people out of a job
>>11793360cursed
>>11793360Why wouldn’t they just make it Bludgeon instead?
>>11793067til all are cum
>>11793370They just put out two Bludgeons.
I still don’t understand how retards are able to defend frame combiners
I hope they're fucking done with the 13 primes now, I never want to see most of them ever again.
>they didnt retool the shit out of 86 magnus for a new nova primeOh well, legacy nova prime is rad at least
>>11793211I know you explained what's going on but what the FUCK is going on, unicron on unicron action is hilarious
>>11793399they still need the rest of the guys to make Nexus work and Vector Prime 2.0
>>11793333The combaticons are by far best solo combiner fragments that they've released so far, helps that none of them are simple retools. I like the effort they put into bruticus' legs, but unfortunately they didnt even try for the arm combination.
>>11793404God dammit I am sick of these ancient losers, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MYTHIC PAST OF CYBERTRON MOVE THE FUCK ON
>>11793384>no frame=weak kneesSome reviews for liokaiser have come out. While people are praising the thing, it is very clear the knees are compromised because the articulation point is with the bots so the rachets are not abel to be big enough (strong enough) to handle either the weight of the calf nor the upper body. Devastator does not have this issue with the knee point being part of the extra crotch section. It also help devastator has those really thick thighs where as liokaiser is more vintage japanese robot design of thinner thighs/thick calfs. Having a frame system solve the issue
>>11793399>>11793408Oh, but I want a Voyager Logos Prime and toys of the Guiding Hand
>>11793408It will never end, anon.
Anon was asking about Quake earlier, so I took a few pics. I don't really know anything about the character besides that he's an asshole who loves violence, becomes Bludgeon's bitchboy once he assumes leadership of the Decepticons in the Marvel comics. I think Bumblebee also killed him in IDW2. I'll take some pictures of the tank mode later, just to remind everyone what a truly shit alt looks like. Also, couldn't remember at the time, but his turret does rotate.>>11793311You know what? That's completely fair, especially considering how quickly these threads cycle compared to other generals.
Crossovers I'd like to see
>>11793426We need a Robocop redeco for Armada Red Alert.
>>11793410>[combiner that does not have a frame] does not have this issue So frames are still worthless, got it
>>11793384Well, at least you can actually play with them
>>11793445Yeah no one was able to play with combiners before they invented frames, that's why the scramble city crew have been historically unpopular and SS86 Devastator a laughing stock.
>>11792942jetfire convoy?
>>11793444>>11793458samefag
>>11793112he looks like I could put him in my snes
>>11793481You're so right, only one person dislikes frames, this is known.
>>11793020Joke alt mode, boring bot mode, entirely painted statue target masters and they got the fucking colors wrong.
So long as we're reminiscing about the 13 literal whos.... I've known about Solus Prime since 2012 or whenever they got the forge in TF Prime. I was so disappointed to find out over a decade later that he wasn't like the ancient chad meme but a deluxe class purple woman
>>11793134>it’s not to scale with MasterpieceIt actually is though.
>>11793135That's what happens when you cheap out and try to reuse legs on a mold you know you could repaint at least 5 times. Everything wrong with the base bot came from the plastic color layout and transformation limitations caused by having to work around those stupid fucking legs.
>>11793233I just want this guy upscaled and with the chest windows on a rotating panel so you can switch between real chest windows or grey and silver details for scourge.
>>11793020Nah. Get the Titans Return one. He's way cooler, as long as you're not triggered by forced gimmicks, and the fact that he's really just Hardhead.
>>11793276>he's meant to be a base for micro masters.He's literally so oversized that they had to upscale his micromaster partner and trailer to be core sized.
Why do some people get so angry over partsforming? Its like ANY level of partsforming triggers a storm of autistic rage.
>>11793518Wdym, they could've reused the legs and then not needlessly overcomplicated the upper body
You can tell star convoy was just a commander they upsized in CAD to justify their minititan concept because of how stupid the ramp connectors look on him.
>>11793536No, they had to overcomplicate the torso specifically to make room to suck in the waist/thighs for the truck mode proportions since the reused legs don't collapse like the originals.
>>11793518The reused legs were awful, but so were the new parts, such as the miserable shoulders. Legacy Laser Prime managed to fail on every single level.
>>11793532>oversizedThat just means you can fit more micromasters stupid
>>11793542The new parts are horrible BECAUSE they're working around the reused parts.
>>11793540The legs dont collapse on the RTS either, they had a better way to do that
>The reason Energon Shockblast/Laserwave is called Shockwave in the comic, is because he's apparently revived with aspects of Shockfleet (Mirage), explaining the spaceship mode. He fucking hates it since he hated Tidal Wave/Shockwave.This makes the name fuck up when pre-orders went up, even funnier.
>>11793444You forget (or "forget") that Devastator functionally has a seventh member in Long Haul's trailer (which you probably also complained about). You need either a frame or extra pieces to make a combiner that's sturdy and posable, 5 or 6 bots held together with just CW-style ports and hope isn't going to cut it.
THE ONE PIEEECESorry the AllsparkFinally have the whole gangI still don't know who to use for a 13thStar Convoy is cool but he is WAY too huge and out of place
>>11793550Btw, if you're wondering what they mean by incorporating aspects of Tidal Wave, they're basing that off of his original alt mode all the way back in Armada, where he looked like a spaceship with Shockwave'a cannon up front.
>>11793553That's fucking cope lmao
>>11793058Scrolling and thinking "huh, 13 seems a lot more than it used to be"
>>11793549RTS had a good amount of his lower legs length disappear underneath the truck along with much larger wheels that help mask any proportion issues
>>11793561Nice counter-argument anon, very intelligent.
>>11793554Armada Prime? He's still big but not huge and does the base + super optimus thing as well.
>>11793532>He's literally so oversized that they had to upscale his micromaster partner and trailer to be core sized.The fuck are you talking about? It's well known that they made Hot Rod too big, he can't even stand inside the torso room now. Micromasters and titanmasters work way better.
>>11793553>You forget that Devastator doesn’t use a frameSo frames are still worthless, got it
>>11793550Did he get the gay as well?
>>11793591>hurr durrRead the whole sentence next time faggot.
>>11793554John Hasbro: Sentinel Prime is the true 13th Prime. You all know it's true.
>>11793566He's just baiting, Devastator has 2 members to fill the torso while the quint combiners dont, and yet 86 still has a hip and thigh frame to sidestep the issues there. Nobody is actually that unintelligent.
>>11792956My guess (assuming he’ll be two bots) is that the smaller toy will be a small Voyager, i.e. Leo Prime, while the larger toy will be around SS86 Magnus in height, give or take a half inch
>>11793069Your on 4chan anon. Its most likely that fucking retard from tfw that spams all the threads there with his shitty Custom work. What are you expecting from a brown
>>11793384Better question is why you're so buttblasted over frames but you're fine with combiner thigh pieces that barely even do anything else?
>>11793619Isn't this just further proof hasbro have fuck all clue about designs these days and are happy to give customers low quality shitty products at a retarded high asking priceThey literally give you half arsed slop and yet you get retards thanking hasbro for having to pay triple now for a voyager or several times more because of Haslab and the lie they peddle about stores not stocking them
>>11793546The legs didn't cause the shoulders to be like that. While the legs were bad, they weren't the sole source of all of Laser Prime's problems. There can be more than one thing wrong with a figure.
Do you ever feel like we just talk about the same thing over and over but nothing ever gets settled
>>11793628Welcome to the world of the Transformers, anon
>>11793616>How dare he post pictures of transformer toys on a /toy/ board. We need to talk more about tfwiki and walky and retroblasting.Modern /toy/ in a nutshell.
>>11793628Tbh I kinda lost love for transformers :( like I dunno the new stuff isn’t for me and it doesn’t sparkle joy anymore
>>11793638Spamming his autism here isn't.....wait...sorry I forgot what place this is
>>11793639I honestly advise looking into other transforming robot toylines if Transformers aren't tickling your fancy right now.
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>>11793640that has to be the same guy because who defends someone elses image spam? It would be sadder if it wasnt
>>11793639Takara get forced into the closet.Hasbro raise prices.Hasbro do poor quality designs.Scam people with selects and haslab.Takara even with no budget these days still has to fix hasbros half assed figures such as down syndrome lio convoy.All hasbro do these days is make low quality figures without any heart or soul. If the company goes bankrupt due to loss in sales they really only have themselves to blame. No one wants 1 million Bumblebee toys from the Michael bay movies
People always downplay takara's involvement and complicity
>>11793628Give me your face.
>>11793628How do you expect anything to get "settled"
>>11793315>That doesn't mean every single micromaster has disappeared from people's collectionsThe most recent micromasters and star convoy are about 4 years apart from each other. It doesn't make sense to make a playset that isn't compatible with the running line because if you're just getting into collecting or picking up>>11793625The sole cause of Laser Prime's problems would be the designer. It still baffles me how they took a very simple, iconic design and fucked it up to such an insane degree. How is the figure less posable and less photogenic than not only it's previous iterations, but the original from 30 years ago? I'm glad they didn't make that E-Hobby Magnus because I'm sick to death of that mold.
>>11793679No ankles!
>>11793333Mine fell off my desk the other day. Head went flying off and I haven't found it yet. Feels bad, man.
First time with the new seeker mold, it kinda sucks? Shockwave still having greebles despite being supposed toon release. >>11793639Everything is so half-assed, you are better going with 3rd party stuff these days for transformers.
>>11793676only one way
>>11793628That's it! I'm switching to He-Man
>>11793594No idea, but he somehow got smarter and is apparently doing all this since Doubleface and Noizemaze said he could use Unicronnto revive his brother, turns out they were lying. It also brings up an old theory that Doubleface/Sideways is actually a puppet for Unicron, but at least this comic seems to firmly establish the ML version as his own character... for now.
>>11793597>the whole sentence confirms Devastator doesn’t have a frameSo frames are still worthless, got it>>11793605>maybe if I pretend this thing that blatantly isn’t a frame is a frame I can pretend frame combiners aren’t dogshit
>>11793705Really it's the seekers that are wrong for not having enough detailing. SS86 has had em since Kup and Hot Rod.
>>11793625>Need to make room for the waist to collapse>Make the torso out of panels that compact tightly>No more room to put the double hinge+rotation assembly of the original in the now compressed panel torso>Have to have the arms fold back instead put shoulders on simpler floating assembly.
>>11793733The bad legs didn't cause all that.
>>11793679Star Convoy having his classic base mode and being compatible with other baseformers and small figures is a good thing. Not everything needs to cater to people who started collecting yesterday and don't even know who the fuck Star Convoy is. Also the toy is still fun even without titanmasters or micromasters, but if you own some of these it's better. I don't see the problem.
>>11793736Exactly. The main problem of that toy is that they tried to reinvent the wheel for absolutely no reason. Just keeping the same simple transformation of the original but with added articulation would have been enough.
>>11793736>Needing to make room for the bad legs didn't make it so there was less room for other stuff.
>>11793719>It also brings up an old theory that Doubleface/Sideways is actually a puppet for UnicronWasnt that just in the show? He merges into Unicron and then dies when Unicron dies
>>11793655>No one wants 1 million Bumblebee toys from the Michael bay moviesAt least kids bought those. Every single one of those old Bumblebees is a million times better than the shit we got for studio series.What will really kill this franchise is the fact that shit like this is what they expect kids to buy>>11793737I'm not talking about what or who should and shouldn't be catered to, I'm just going by the logic that most toylines usually operate by. Rodimus comes with Star Convoy so that is fine and it's still a good figure but like I said, It gives the toyline a sense of unified synergy. Something all the toylines had until Legacy.For example with Titans Return.You have the smallest class, Titan Masters, they can be integrated into the play features of every subsequent class in the toyline. Individual titan masters came with a little figure that can turn into a drone or weapon for bigger figures. Legends could have them as drivers in the canopy, Deluxes, Voyagers and Leaders could use them as pilots and as heads or seated in their guns. Titans usually had nearly all of the above with lots of play features for those smaller classes. It creates a sort of synergy, buying the cheapest figure makes you want to buy the more expensive larger figure and so forth and so on and it felt rewarding. They've worked this way since at least the Unicron Trilogy. As it is now, more and more it just feels like they've fully embraced Generations as filler for some fat retard's shelf as a form of admission to their own lack of creativity. It's nice that Star Convoy's base mode is compatible with the old micromasters but why couldn't they just release new ones in the current line if they're going to do that.
>>11793761I mean it's a movie toy of Optimus Prime, kids will buy hose no matter how shit
>>11793655It's funny, all those bayverse bees and not a single one satisfies me so far.
>>11793729Is it really too much to ask for a little consistency?
>>11793763Yeah, that's why hasbro's been reporting losses on Transformers for the last 5-10 years. This shit may have worked in 2007 but it doesn't work with kids that didn't go to the theaters and don't have an incentive to care about transformers
>>11793665People really downplay that the way to have Takara quality is to spend way more money in basic toys when they already complain about rising costs. Make your only option spending $40+ for a deluxe and let’s see how many people are grateful for extra paintapps.
>>11793533Because it’s an aspect that ruins the puzzle feeling a lot of us like. Trying to get point A to B
>>11793775>hasbro's been reporting losses on Transformers for the last 5-10 yearsSource or you made it up
>>11793782But puzzles are the ultimate partsformers
>>11793533It seems that alot if not most people like when a weapon is intergrated into alt mode. Plenty of BW, CR, UT toys do that.
>>11792917What are some good Transformers model kits? I know there's that Arcee and Windblade with the nice booties but that's about it.
>>11793761What the fuck are you on about?
>>11793757Due to the dub doing it's own thing, they make it sound like Unicron and Sideways are one and the same (the sub made it seem like it was partially true, he was his own guy and Unicron was possesing him). Only on Cybertron and a toy bio did it imply otherwise (but the shows nature makes it hard to say they're the same character anyway.So yeah, his vary nature made it hard to say if he was ever an individual, but the new Legends fiction has him working separately from Unicron and even wishing to control him, establishing him as his own guy.
>>11793775to be fair toys have to compete with ipads now
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>>11793812I figured it was like a jesus thing where he's simultaneously his own thing and unicron
>>11793814Gigatron is compatible with that? or is there tape and rubber bands at play.
>>11793814>gigatron handglorious
When is the next dang Timelines set going to be available?I want my dumbass Bumblebee and boar Megatron
>>11793836I assume at SDCC.
>>11793745Not all the bad things about that mold are a sole result of "needing to make room for the bad legs." You're starting to sound obsessed.
>>11793813why didn't toys have to compete with TV
>>11793888You don’t play with a TV, you watch it. It’s the same reason why toy sales started to slump after video games started getting popular
>>11793888You don't need your hands to watch TV, so little Tucker can set up all his action figures to watch with him.
>>117938881. who says they didn't?2. did tv exist before or after transformers?
>>11793895Before?
>>11793899correct. now consider how far into the era of television we were before transformers came out, where it was already determined that tv shows can be used to sell toys.
>>11793848I gave very logical reasoning why a bad design decision would lead to other design decisions being made to work around it. Your the one just covering your eyes and going nuh-uh while adding nothing to the conversation.
>>11793769Time to go 3rd party anon
Trying to imagine how much better things would be if cocks gave takara the majority of transformers in exchange for another yacht
>>11793906I've tried once. If you've got any recs for dotm bee I'm all ears.
>>11793888The TV wasn't on all the time, cartoons weren't on all the time, it wasn't portable, it wasn't in every room in the house, you couldn't take it outside, it allowed you to play with toys while watching, and 90% of children's programming was toy commercials anyway.
>>11793908I honestly think the best course of action for Hasbro would be selling Power Rangers to Bandai. They paid a ton for it, do nothing to advertise it, and basically only make retro figures that kids aren’t going to buy
>>11793418He seems a clean enough bot, just that the altmode looked extremely unimpressive. I know there's tank destroyers with non-rotating turrets, but that, the targetmasters looking rather dinky, and that the tank mode looks like things just sandwiched on top of a tank chassis... The robot looks pretty damn impressive though, and I'm glad he can at least fire while in robot mode.https://files.catbox.moe/yqrpc1.jpg>actually rotatesIt's all coming back to me now>>11793493Yeah...>>11793528I don't know if I can still get him so easily
>>11793919Would bandai even pay a good amount for it now?
>>11793936Given Super Sentai seemingly died without it, I’d say so
Reliving my dreams if being a Botcon toy recolorer dont mind me
New Cryotek when?
>>11793947Interesting colors.
>>11793069Fuck you I enjoyed the collection.
>>11793952It's just paradron medic colors because Arcee was a Spider in Beast Wars for some reason.
>>11793908You'd get better figures but much less of them and probably at a far higher price on average.
>>11793814This image rocks.
>>11793943But bandai didnt even want it in 2017, much less now that sentais already dead. Hasbro basically paid $22 million for a useless franchise, mighty morphin crowd can only be pandered to so much
>>11793943Sentai's decline predates PR being sold to Bandai. The reason it got cancelled were because toy sales were shit due to the toys also being shit and also being too expensive for the average Japanese household.Here's one article in Japanese explaining the problem in regards to the price of the toys:https://web.archive.org/web/20260227162626/https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/85720dd627c44d4ab71ee88c995a16afb01028ae>>Bandai conducts an annual survey regarding Christmas gifts for children (titled the "Christmas Survey"). According to their findings, the average budget for 2025 is 8,378 yen. While this represents a 240-yen increase over the previous year, it falls far short of the 16,720 yen price tag for the "DX Boonboomgerー Robo: Explosive 4 Big Robot Set" This creates a price disparity of nearly two-to-one.Why pay for an overly expensive Super Sentai brick when there's so much more competition like Shinkalion and Jobraver domestically in Japan with regards to giant robot toys?And note that hosing down the customers for all their money strategy is being repeated here stateside by Hasbro with TFs.
>>11793954They only had one female mold to use, so she became a spider by default.
>>11793919Nah, they have it made, paying Playmates to make toys for them (which actually do sell).
>>11793961>DX Boonboomgerー Robo: Explosive 4 Big Robot Setthat cant be the ac->it is the ACTUAL NAMEmy fucking sides
>>11793965how tf they pronounce that? buunubuumugaa? seems like kind of a mouthful
>>11793968M and N make a similar sound when next to a consonant in Japanese so it’d be more accurate to say Buumbuumgaa
>>11793961The average budget for christmas is only $50? Am I reading that right?
>>11793971ah, boom boom gahsounds like a chant
>>11793903All your logical reasoning consists of is repeatedly saying, "This thing (which is NOT responsible for every problem) is magically responsible for every problem!" If you want to convince people you aren't being obsessively autistic about this, you're gonna need a much more compelling argument. The burden of proof is on you, and repeating the same nonsensical claim over and over again doesn't prove anything.
>>11793972I’m guessing it’s because Christmas isn’t a national holiday in Japan, but then it seems like a weird metric to judge toy sales by if that’s the case
>>11793705>3rd partyThird-party has its merits but it's also a tasteless clownshow with all precaution and prudence thrown to the wind.
>>11793777>Takara quality"Takara quality" is overstated anyway, and has been for a long time.
Special grade cursed object
>>11793984Buy brands that aren't Transformers
>>11793985I love that the wiki just straight up links to a video of someone crushing this toy to pieces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcjAUN5Ssj8>>11793986This is a Transformers thread, anon, we’re going to focus on Takara's quality in terms of Transformers
>>11793954Maybe, but they make an interesting spider.
>>11793985One of the last Randys in one piece
I have assembled Liokaiser.The chest armors for the arms and upper torso sort of just get slapped on the back in combined mode, clearly an afterthought. The arms aren't noticeable from the front. But the Lion Chest Armor? He sort of takes center position on the top of the back. So he's sort of peaking over the looming menace of Liokaiser. It's honestly just such a stupid design oversight, and somehow a little adorable. Just a cute little bat looking over things.
>>11794001
>>11793961I love how the solution is to rebrand the shit as Gavan and still make the toys as shitty as ever.
>>11794003Aw that is kinda cute. Isn’t he the most dangerous combiner though?
>>11794003>Breast Animal Bat is watching you masturbate
>>11794003Yes. Exactly. Just a lil guy. "Hello!"I don't really do all the cutesy internet meme talk, but look at that little bastard. How can you not?
>>11793893no they didn't. they both peaked at the same time. They went up together and went down together.>>11793894do people hold their ipads in their hands the entire time they watch a show? no stands or anything?
>>11793913
>>11794007Liokaiser is intelligent, a martial artist, armed with a bunch of weapons, and can turn invisible. So considering Predaking is an enormous jobber, yes Liokaiser probably is the strongest G1 combiner.
>>11794014Quiet, zoomer. Adults are talking.
Liokaiser is rolling out and I'm not hearing about any QC issues. So far at least.Soooo..... what's the next Haslab? Almost more than getting a thing, I'm really curious about what it will be. They ruled out going back to Victory a third time, right? So no Road Caeser. At least not now.
>>11794019You'd think it'd be something from the 86 movie for the anniversary.
>>11794020.... Rails?
>>11794020Is there anything left? Spaceships?
>>11794021Oh damn, maybe. Or the Anibeast.>>11794022Maybe the Quintesson ship I guess?
>>11794022Mostly combiners and larger characters.
>>11793994>16 years agoDang. Imagine how much more brittle the plastic would be nowadays lol
>>11794023Honestly, if we go by ships, they might as well do the one's from Armada, they had some bitching ships.
>>11793980>Waist has to go somewhere>Other stuff that was there before have to go somewhere else.You're the type of nigga who can't rotate an apple in his head.
>>11793069>crying about someone posting Transformers images on a Transformers image board at 3 in the morning>>11793401...why the fuck would Nova Prime be necessary from 86 Magnus? If anything we need a smaller Nova that isn't stuck with an inaccurate inner robot that shits up the main toy.
>>11793971more accurately, japan USED to have a nasal 'm' but they dropped it in the 60s. Now it only exists as "n but you say it funny before certain consonants"
>>11794004Gavan is pretty cool at least>>11793961wait why do they cost more when theyre shitty now>>11794018what the fuck would a gen Z know about tv?yes it was on all the time. yes cartoons were on all the time. yes it was in every room, at least two rooms, which is good enough, and the living room connected to the other rooms. and no, toy commercials were heavily restricted because of retards and moms.
Do people not know gen z started 97? CR/UT/Animated/Prime fags entered the franchise with those shows on TV
>>11794036Don't worry. This isn't about any actual people, but men who are half-straw, half-boogey.
>>11794019The main ones I can see are>Big Powered>Primus>Gigatron>Rail Racer?One other idea I saw that I doubt they’d ever do is a 1/12 Optimus Prime so you can scale him with 6" G.I. Joes and Marvel Legends
>>11794041Stretch Goal of 1:12 scale Spike and Sparkplug.
>>11794041>>Big PoweredI mean I have the Legends one and he's pretty sweet, but if there's a better one, there's a better one.>PrimusGod I would love it, but I would want it to scale with Unicron 1 to 1. And Unicron barely passed. I can't see Primus being an easy sell. Maybe if there was a Titan Unicron a HasLab Primus could work.>GigatronValid idea>Rail RacerYeah. Yeah I can see it. The original toy is very good. Just scaling it up a bit can really beef up the articulation.
>>11794049>Maybe if there was a Titan UnicronI wish...
>>11794058>>11794049Oh I forgot the problem with Gigatron. He's just so... small. He's about the size of Fire Convoy, right? Not much to warrant a full Haslab. Does he have any notable accessories or chief lieutenants he could come with?Or fuck it, pack him with Splendid Convoy. I'd buy her.
>>11794064>Does he have any notable accessories or chief lieutenants he could come with?The three Predacons, but thats pushing it.
>>11794064If I recall correctly, in the actual show his robot mode is the size of Fire Convoy/Optimus Prime's super robot mode, whilst the OG toy is the same size as Fire Convoy's standard robot mode. Anime Gigatron is fuckin' hueg. Though then again>Transformers>Scale
>>11794069The combining three? Yeah that'd be a lot.Maybe a Haslab of both sets of three piece combiners, with alt parts for Jr? If Liokaiser is seven bots, six doesn't seem that insane.Never mind alt parts for Jr. He could be a stretch goal.
>>11794071No, the goofballs. Gas Skunk, Slapper, and Dark Scream.
>>11794070You're right that scale is fucked to shit with this franchise, but you're right to point out the anime. They're in general going with anime scale, and if they want that, a Haslab would be a good place for him.
>>11794073The Optimus isn’t in anime scale though
>>11793986I haven't handled their new Diaclone stuff but a lot of it just looks like expensive clusterfuckery to me. It doesn't have the same appeal the old Diaclone or Micro Change stuff does to me whatsoever. I'm willing to believe that part for part it's higher quality than what they've done with Transformers for the last decade, but I don't care about it.
>>11794082The Diaclone reboot toys are expensive as fuck and they're aimed at adults more than trying to attract new fans. Part of it is higher quality, part is their market estimates saying it pays better to sell fewer toys to fans at a massively inflated margin than trying to compete on price. The new line is focused more on the modular aspects than transformation and that's a step away from the original Diaclone idea.
has there been any info on whether 86 Rodimus is gonna be a repaint/retool of the kingdom figure or an all new mold?
$300 dollar
>>11793814Radical
>>11794108
>>11794107Takara said they wanna redo him, so probably new.
>>11794108sighwhy couldnt we just have more oil
>>11794019My dream is animated Omega Supreme
I wonder if we'll ever get a new Razorbeast.
>>11794148I hope he's at least a deluxe. Or if shrinkflation goes slightly further, a voyager. I want him to be somewhere in between Cheetor and Tigatron's size, is my point. Which, I mean, the average random boar you see is the size of a dog, but they can GET massive.
>>11794041Don't forget Sky Garry and Grandus.
>>11792917New Transformers pinball machine revealedTrailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J9JGgUiRlcDetails:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLx93Iiy5ywgameplay footage recorded at Media Dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBSfYX244Pcbetter gameplay footage coming soon
Finally picked up this guy since they fucking refuse to make Cryotek. An old credit card and some tinfoil really brightens up that chest jewel and the mouth bothers me less in person, in most lighting I can't even tell it's supposed to be messed up. The downward slant on the port in the dragon mouth is really annoying though. Also did anyone ever figure out why the fuck the dragon chest can't tab into the slot on his back?
>>11794166>foil behind the jeweloooooh. wait, credit card? Oh, to glue in place over the foil? course now it doesn't match his domepiece.
might try that with some silver paint or a chrome marker..
>>11794164That is one thicc Prime. Looks like a fun board!
>>11794164Who the fuck buys a whole ass pinball machine?Where do you put it? How often do you play it? Is it just for display? Why the fuck did they spend money making this instead of good Transformers?
>>11794175>>11794176Starting price $6,999 USD
>>11794176you put it in your arcade, and you charge a quarter a play. Then you keep the quarters at the end, unless it's the kind where you can win free games, but even then very few let you -profit- from your free games. That's how pinball began, to dodge gambling laws, but that aint how it currently am.
>>11794166>Also did anyone ever figure out why the fuck the dragon chest can't tab into the slot on his back?No and that's what pisses me off about him most honestly. I do like what you did with the chest jewel though, very vibrant.
>>11794180That makes sense in 1986.I haven't seen a living arcade in 25 years.
>>11794176>Why the fuck did they spend money making this instead of good Transformers?Don't be dense, pumpkin. They just licensed out the Transformers brand to a pinball machine manufacturer. They didn't spend any money on this.
>>11794182I'm not saying it's gonna work, I'm just saying that's "where you put it."Nobody has spittoons anymore, but 'where they go' is on the floor in the parlor. 'Course nobody has a parlor anymore.
>>11794167Not even glue, I just cut the card down to a little square that can nestle into the chest then wrapped the foil around it to keep it stiff to avoid crinkling. I got the size just right so it stay in place on its own but It'd be kept in place in both modes by the bot and dragon arms anyways.
>>11794189oooh the power of friction.
>>11794166>>11794181It's the middle support strut at the base of the chest plate. It bumps into the back of the gold panel of the head assembly. It was probably a last minute reinforcement.
>>11793761Wtf is with those Ellen page arms??>>11793775Hasjew will just keep pushing out bad products because idiots keep buying them even though there of poor quality.We now have hollow legs/crotches/arms and chests on pretty much all figures. We get recycled cardboard boxes with no plastic windows or holders anymore.Their made in a cheap factory with low quality paints and cheap plastic.Please pay 100 bucks for ss grimlock which you'll then need to spend another 80 on for a kit to actually make the figure look right.Wtf is the point? You could just spend 60-80 on the oversized ko mp grimlock and have a proper version of the characterYou literally have to fix every character hasbro puts out with a kit
>>11794019Solid gold Randy
>>11794196Pic of the culprits
>>11793775Gonna need a source on that. From what i remember, Transformers and Magic were the main profitable franchises under Hasbro, the ones that were losses were Marvel and Star Wars.
>>11794019Omega Prime but they fixed it this time. Also $60 more expensive.
>>11794212You do realize the company would be doing WELL if your insinuations as to their ownership were true, right?Also the no windows thing they went back on. Though the rest of the criticisms are so correct they are obvious, and pointless to even say.
>>11794019No Victory? Damn, was hoping for a Landcross, since a Haslab is probably the only way they could do the Multiforce decently. Well here are my hopes and wants:- God Ginrai- Violenjiger- Railracer- RID Landfill
>>11794212I know this is a bait post but yoi could at least keep the complaints up to date
>>11794234I feel like the Multiforce could work in mainline. They’re basically smaller versions of the Duocons essentially and I thought their updates were pretty good
>>11794235How is it bait?
>>11794029>Waist has to go somewhere>ONLY possible solution is to screw up the shoulders. You're the type of person who can't imagine how you would've felt if you didn't have breakfast this morning.
>>11794108This is unironically entirely and complete unacceptableThe sheer retards that bought this shit are a wonder
>>11794266>ONLY possible solution is to screw up the shoulders.No but it's the one they chose. Not like you've put up any alternatives.
>>11794235What's wrong about it exactly?I haven't bothered to buy hasbro garbage in over 2 years
>>11794108I don't get it? That little piece is $300? There aren't red circles this time so I don't even know where to look.
Alright, guys, I'm just gonna say it. Megatron's been checked out for awhile. Barely does shit even on the days he bothers to come in. I think it's time to discuss a change in management.
>Still alive, Autobot?>Still struggling?>Do you not understand?>It's over.>FINISHED!
>>11794322reckon anon is saying this piece from a 300 dollar toy should not be so waffledand I mean, obviously it should be, it's silly to make SOLID plastic toys, as super7 figured out. Unnecessarily heavy. What you're supposed to do is make things waffled but ALSO sandwich two pieces together, for each piece. It's not that bad, it uses up a tiny bit more plastic and massively improves how it looks, plus it allows for a great number of types of joints to be used
>>11794326long live the shogun!
>>11794164Aw, no Victor Caroli narration. Gregg Berger's doing an adequate impression, but still stands out a bit.
>>11794289>No but it's the one they chose. Not like you've put up any alternatives.So there you go! It isn't just because the legs suck, but it's also because they made other bad choices that they didn't have to! But you want some other alternatives? Fine, here we go. First up, change where the arms are stored in truck mode. Instead of having them come out the back of the cab, the two most obvious options are either on the sides of the cab, or inside the nose of the truck. The sides would make the vehicle mode considerably wider (not necessarily a bad thing considering how long the truck already feels), but would still have the downside of the shoulders still needing to connect to the torso's sides. Ideally, the shoulders should connect to the underside of the truck nose pylons in robot mode, giving Optimus broader shoulders for a more heroic silhouette. Storing the arms inside the nose could accomplish this. You'd need to sacrifice the gimmick of having the front of his pylons swing open to reveal missiles, but that's a small price to pay. With those missiles gone, the interior of the truck's entire nose becomes available real estate for his arms. With the arms stored inside there, the shoulders can now connect at the base of the pylons. Then if you change the hinges on the truck nose so they don't only swing out to the sides, but also forward and backward, you'd have a full range of motion too. Since a ball-and-socket joint probably wouldn't be strong enough to support the weight of the arms with friction alone (and because they might be too finicky during the transformation), this would require extra parts for two separate hinges, but ditching the missiles earlier could already free up the parts count. So there's an alternative off the top of my head showing that bad legs didn't make the bad shoulders inevitable.
>Yes, yes the Matrix. We're all suitably impressed, Prima, but can we please return to the matter at hand?
>>11794237I'm the opposite. The Duocons convinced me that they can't do Multiforce in the mainline. Battletrap was meh. Flywheels was better but his individual vehicles didn't transform. To do Multiforce in the mainline, you'd need to do 6 deluxes or voyagers (since legends and core class are dead), each of those deluxes or voyagers would need to transform into individual robot and vehicle modes, combine with the other members either as a top half or bottom half and also be able to combine together into a poseable combiner. So essentially each member will need to have at least 5 modes. I just can't see Hasbro doing that with current mainline budgets without a shit ton of cutting corners.
>>11794326Where'd you get the sheath for his sword? Did you 3D print it yourself, or was that from an upgrade kit?
>>11794358Oh, my mistake. The gameplay footage shows they got the Honest Trailers guy for some stuff. Between that, the new lines sounding so obviously aged, and the random woman's voice for some generic pinball score quotes, the VA work is a bit of a miss for me.>whole mode dedicated to beating up StarscreamWorth it>the "we have Stan Bush at home" song that plays during the Optimus/Megatron battle on the damPress release seems to say it's Knights of Unicron, who is also putting out that cover album of the movie's soundtrack soon.
>>117943753D printed upgrade kit that I got on eBay, here's a shot of him all decked out in everything. Obviously still not accurate to his look in the G1 comics, but I'm still pretty happy with how it all looks together.
>>11794164>>11794175I wonder if he was meant to have a transformation gimmick but they couldn't make it viable. That he looks like this and the actual table's role for him is just "shoot him in the shins" is kind of weird.
>>11794383I'm hearing word that he was meant to transform but they couldn't get the mechanism to work consistentlyFor the best I guess, wouldn't want to centerpiece of you $8000 purchase to be stuck between modes because it took too many ball bearings to the dome
>>11794386On a similar note, I'm almost surprised they kept it Season 1 and 2 focused and shoved the movie stuff to a bonus mode. I get it, the nostalgic iconography but at the same time the movie is increasingly like The Big One Thing people even know about G1 due to its accessibility.
>>11794108what am I looking at?
>>11794436Killbisons cannon
>>11794032>yes it was on all the time. yes cartoons were on all the time. yes it was in every room, at least two rooms, which is good enough, and the living room connected to the other rooms. and no, toy commercials were heavily restricted because of retards and moms.And this is the early 1980s we're talking about?
>>11794164>SternReady for disappointment.
>Hear me out: what if we went back in time and killed Unicron before he had a chance to gain physical form? I know it may sound a bit like murdering a protoform, but it really isn't. In fact, I'd be more than happy to demonstrate difference if you need me to.
>>11794196>>11794218You're correct. I cut some plastic from the center strut back when I got him and the panel pegs perfectly fine since then. The added reinforcement isn't needed at all.
>>11794383In some retarded world maybe Hasbro cracked down on them since no one but them is allowed to make transforming transformers. Maybe it's this world
>The creation of new life through science you say?>Fascinating.>You know, I'm something of a scientist myself.
What better way to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the movie than a retooled de-greebled Haslab Unicron. The next one is 100% this you know it to be true
>>11794343I still think they should do a weeb story of Bludgeon and Banzaitron fighting Drift and Windblade, everybody gets katanas and naruto runs all over the place.
>>11794529For who? I'm certainly not spending half a grand on a big toy.
>>11793951who is that supposed to be?
Stronger together!
>>11794496This would fall more under something like that automated RC Optimus Jada made a while back or Robosen.
>>11794182There’s still some out there, and still pinball tables being made that are increasingly elaborate. You so t see them in bumfuck nowhere but the few arcades paying for new pinball machines go for gimmicky ones aimed at an older market.
>>11794529Actually it's HER HasLab time
>>11792956Tbf in late marvel comics everyone is a similar height to powermaster optimus. It's the only real flaw.
>>11794339He really just went at that bot, like some kind of vast predatory bird, or something.
>>11794680Thunderwing is still much bigger than the other Decepticon toys around that time, though ironically he’s still shorter than base form PM Prime
>>11794019BroadsideEnergon Optimus - if it's going to be another Autobot leader like Fire Convoy and Victory SaberPrimusRail Racer - if we are continuing the RID love hopefully thought the QC for RID characters gets better
