Action Line EditionPrevious: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75231968Note: There is not, and there will never be, an official /dig/ discord server.Post what you're working on, ask questions, discuss general art-related things.Make your unforgivable fetishes come to life.Welcome: New and seasoned artists looking for advice, critique and support.When giving criticism, please, give actual criticism not just "LOL LOOMIS". Let's not become another /ic/NOT welcome: /ic/ crabs, /trash/ crabs, bad faith critiqueOther Drawthreads:Search "draw" on a board's catalog>>>/trash/drawVideos:Tyler Edlin - https://www.youtube.com/user/TylerE2284Proko -https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTVSinix -https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesignScott Robertson -https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesignMatt Kohr (CtrlPaint) -https://www.ctrlpaint.com/libraryAaron Blaise -https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArtVilpu (Anatomy) - https://mega.nz/folder/9Pw1lYaS#Me7LSwlSg59lNGmkj9tt4w/folder/lPoXEYxSLinesSensei- https://www.youtube.com/@LinesSenseiPoses/Gestures:QuickPoses -https://www.quickposes.com/enPoseSpace -https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspxhttps://x6ud.github.io/#/ Animal Head Reference Finderhttps://anatomy360.info/anatomy-scan-reference-dump/Books (navigable folders):https://www.mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8https://6chan.moe/loomis/res/156.htmlhttps://6chan.moe/loomis/res/1991.html (filled with scans, replace 6 with 8)https://anonfiles com/OeEc64d4z1https://www.mediafire.com/file/1hta2i7eqqj31ea/art_and_fear.pdf/filehttps://mega.nz/folder/yxtCBLYZ#FbtGBQQunWVCrjMMIzJSywFAQQ: I'm a total beginner. Where should I start?A: Do the exercises in either "Keys to Drawing" by Bert Dodson or "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards. Additionally, you can try the first few lessons of https://drawabox.com/ for building up muscle memory.
I had zero clue the thread was about to fall off page 10.>>75348374I definitely have to refine the arm connections, those were 100% stream-of-consciousness and I (sadly) haven't drawn giant robots since I was 10. He's also a kilometer tall and made of alien nonsense, so material limitation concerns are out the window.
>>75348969whoops
I have become incredibly comfortable with drawing at this size but it's far too small for me to properly draw a face and hands.
As per several anons advice I am trying to push past the construction stage and do more rendering/ drawing more loosely. Disregard the face, mild face blindness is not kind to me in this aspect.
>>75349868Off to a good start, I'd say. Keep at it.
fibi bibi
>>75349868Nice!
draw
thank you anons in the previous thread for advice on my 3d model.
>>75347388>>75345244>>75348505So, as you said, drafting pencils are just tools. They're not gonna make an unskilled artist skilled. But, if you draw a lot or write a lot, they're fantastic. I can't go back to regular slop. That and they're metal, you're not gonna break them (assuming you don't get the 600. Don't get the 600).These rotrings have almost full metal bodies making them much heavier compared to your regular pencils and pens. The weight is a built-in smoothing filter and gives you much finer control over how the pencil/pen moves.
>>75352782so in my pocket protector (insert cat nerd emoji) in my other post (>>75341868), I have from left to right>Rotring 600 .5mmThe OG. It looks nice, but it's honestly my least favorite of the bunch. The knurling is a bit too aggressive, and the worst part is the metal tip. You WILL drop this pencil, it WILL land on its tip, and it WILL be rendered unusable, even if it's only from a few inches. You will try to straighten out the tip, but it will never write the same. Don't get a rotring that doesn't have a retractable tip.>Rotring RapidPro Pen, with Monte Verde Blue-Black Rollerball RefillAs mentioned, the RapidPro series is my favorite. They're the heaviest of the bunch, and the knurling is a lot finer pitched so it doesn't bite into your finger as much while still offering great grip. It almost feels like suede or velvet to the touch once it's broken in. The center of mass is directly in the middle of the pen, so it's very easy to move despite the weight. I will say, the ballpoint pen refill it came with sucks ass. I swapped to the Monte Verde rollerball inks above, which feels great to write and draw with. One caveat, it is NOT water-fast. At all. That's why I have the pocket protector now lol>RapidPro with Monte Verde Green Rollerball Refill>RapidPro .5mm Mechanical PencilMy darling, my baby, my go-to. I'm an engineer for work and I'm constantly writing notes and solving equations so this pencil is a godsend so I don't write my fuckups in ink. I can't recommend it enough, and it's only like $25. My one major complaint is that the eraser refills are expensive as fuck. I just make my own at this point by shaving down scavenged wooden pencil erasers until they fit.>RapidPro with Monte Verde Purple Rollerball Refill(cont.)
>>75352822>RapidPro 2.0mm Mechanical PencilMy other darling. This one will be a bit weird if you haven't used drafting pencils before. Technically, when the lead is this big, they're called "lead holders" but I'm going to give you a wedgie and shove you in a locker if you call it that. It's essentially a mechanical pencil that takes a regular "Wood pencil" 2mm lead instead of the itty bitty graphite sticks you see in a .5 or .7mm mechanical pencil. The thick lead makes writing/drawing with it a lot smoother than with a .5mm pencil, and the added heft of the metal makes it feel like writing on ice. Additionally, you can sand the lead down however you like. Typically, I have one end of the lead filed down to a regular "cone" point, and the other filed down to a chisel tip. And THEN, one of my favorite tricks you can do with these pencils, I keep two different sticks of lead in the pencil: very soft 2B for dark, bold lines, and fairly hard 2H for light, gentle lines and sketching. Honestly I would go for an even harder lead but I bulk bought 2H so I'm stuck with it lol>RapidPro with Monte Verde Black Rollerball RefillI don't like the silver body as much as I like the black bodies. It doesn't "age" as well. My old rotrings have a nice patina on them whereas the silver one just looks cheap.thanks for coming to my TedX talk I have autism
>>75352782>>75352822>>75352857one last benefit I should point out with the pens, since they're really just ink cartridge holders, you can swap the ballpoint cartridge out with any other pen type that has the same cartridge (Parker refills/cartridges, in this case).Don't like ballpoint? Buy a rollerball cartridge. Or a gel cartridge. Don't like the thick line weight? Get a needle-tipped cartridge. Want it even thicker? Get a broad-point cartridge. The sky's the limit.
Hands were making sense until I tried holding hands. Interlaced fingers have sent me to a very dark place
>>75354191There's a reason hand holding is considered so sinful and wrong...
>>75348870is this a line of action?
>>75356462Not really; she's quite static, and her arm breaks the figure.the first thing you can check out is that she's "leaning" against an object, yet has no force transfer with itHere's fast and BASIC and EXAGGERATED exampleI can see I disregarded anatomy, but it should sell the idea.
What can I add to make this composition more interesting? Besides random dirt and vegetation.
How long does my break have to be until I can draw again
>>75352782>>75352822>>75352857>>75352978Thanks for the info. I actually already have some metal mechanical pencils. But since I'm mainly a digital artist, they've kind of gone unused.Most are Uni Kuru Toga pencils, but I had a Pentel GraphGear 1000 that disappeared. I know that these are pretty cheap in comparison, but I do like using them from time to time.Mainly when I draw trad, I use 2mm drafting pencils, which I have a bunch of because I like to buy stationery. (Picrel, these are just what I have on hand right now.) Again, these are pretty cheap in comparison, but they're a nice upgrade from regular wooden pencils.Rotring seems pretty cool, but since these are pretty pricy, I might up my trad skills a bit and then reward myself with a few and see if I like them.
>>75357394i was joking but now i want to draw more dynamic ass
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draw or im taking you pen away
>>75359786Ha! Which one?
>>75359786Jokes on you, faggot. I draw with a pencil.
>>75359786Can't.
>>75349086A fellow school notebook scribbler? Best of fucking luck lol
>>75357463yeah something doesn't sit right with this layoutmy 2 ideas are flip the violet slugpussy and crop it closer or add a third character on far side to create some tension (i think)
>>75352397looks good
several threads ago a drawchad posted this WIP, wonder if the piece is done by now
>>75352397no u
I just hope that if one day I manage to make something out of this stuff, Roger Dean won't sue me like with Avatar
worst case scenario furries will pay a GoFundMe for the lawsuit
>>75359786I only use cheap slop pencils
One thing that is nice about doodling on the job is that later I can digitize/colorize it
>Page 10I don't post because my art is horrid, but what is YOUR excuse?
>>75368528Here's my excuse
>>75368528because I'm learning to draw something new and am kinda embarrassed to show it off
>>75368528Because I just posted, and I need time to make more art :J
>>75368528I'm in my post art refractory period.
Its been a drag lately but I'm happy to draw these two again after forever. Making him act like a reluctant goofball is fun.>>75348974I like the sheer absurdity of this thing but despite that I can actually imagine how it functions to a degree. It reminds me of Dead Space's mostly useless and hilarious pulse rifle alt fire but dialed up to 100.>>75366064This kind of scenic view is awesome and has a great sense of scale to it. Settlements being built upon the remains of giant creatures always make for fun lore bits and I never get tired of it. Very nice lines and headshot line up as always as well.>>75366936I sometimes wish I had nurtured my own physical drawing skills so I could do that as I always seemed to make good doodles when drawing on tests or at work. She looks quite cute here.>>75369328I understand the feeling but you're taking the most important step simply by drawing it at all. Its easy to see what you're going for so far and that says a lot I think so keep showing it off.
>>75370297yeah, I've got a really bad habit of giving up when I'm not immediately good at drawing something and I think I should make an active effort to stay as far out of my comfort zone as I can for a bit, it's gonna suck but I gotta plunge myself into this metaphorical deep end while I learn to draw whatever it is I'm studying also I love how you characterize Lucario here, very good visual storytelling in terms of expressions and body language!>>75366064woah...scenes and environments are something I'm actively working on right now, would you have any suggestions for helping me out? my art looks like this >>75369328 as of now
>Figures look like shit>Scared of copying artists because I know It'll be even worse>Perspective a bitchI get overwhelmed with ease.
romeo and a friends OC in a warm up sketch
Commissions/things I drew today
>>75373446>>>75370796Do one of each, babysteps.
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>>75368528I barely post because I'm making no progress months later.
>>75368528because I didnt want to post my more than usual unfinished stuff. This basic shading stuff has actually improved my mood by quite a lot.
finding time to draw, better yet get better is hard. Love scribbling too much. many layers too
>>75368528>05/31/25(Sat)03:42:12 No.75368528I'm sleeping :(
car wife>>75370297Is lucario your self insert sort of?>>75362459not done yet, sorry. Currently working on it a bit more.
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>>75377246I loves cars. What makes them so sexy?
>>75377383Definitely the exhaust
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>>75368528Most images posted here are sketches and I don't really export an image unless it's done, so I feel out of place.Most people here have an aesthetic very dissimilar to mine, so I feel out of place.I'm not really looking for critiques and such, so I feel out of place.
>>75380833I still think your stuff is worth posting, regardless if you get critiques or not/are looking for it. Sometimes mere exposure can help when looking for inspiration/ideas.
>>75380833I like how clean your lines and shapes are, and I enjoy your scrungly creatures. Please keep posting them.
>>75370789>>75369328>>75370789I don't think they're much in raw skill between us.Make sure to check out composition shapes. Your eye follows the lines in a landscape just like a line of action.Place a your protagonist accordingly! You can play with view angle as well. In my previous post i had a view from below for a more awing effect.Here's a X shaped centered and same-eyed example, I think it's great for a still and quiet effect
>>75368528i usually want to sink into the ground after reading posts i've made because they're wrong at least on some level
>>75373461>Do one of each, babysteps.It'll just make me hate myself even faster.
Drawing?
hmmm nyo
>yea im an artist>*doesn't draw anything for 3 days*
>>75370236Truly the worst feeling. I'm wishing your artistic loins all the best.>>75370297Thanks. Matching the expressions and posing was hard but I still had a blast with these. And don't worry as that doubtful feeling hits me often but I've been slowly accepting it as a normal part of the process and learning to push through it. No matter how impossible it may seem you just have to keep persevering.>>75372888Dude looks happy to be chilling in that molten puddle and I can already see Romeo falling in somehow. He's just that lucky.>>75377226Thats a lovely bouquet of smugcars on display here. And no. I just have way too much fun drawing and making a fool out of him.>>75380833You have nice gremlins and there isn't anything wrong with just posting for the sake of it. No idea why you'd feel out of place as most of what you said applies to many anons here, myself included.
>>75370789See the 2nd reply. I'm an idiot.
Would you consider it cheating to copy an image by first tracing and establishing the horizon line and then working your way up from there?
Spent two hours working on forms yesterday. I think I need to work on them more to get what I have in my head out. Forms, then gesture, then construction. I'll work on drawing in that order.
>>75391032I focused on drawing with my shoulder but I have an old Wacom tablet and a bad desk chair that it's a bit difficult. The lines lack weight because I didn't want to resort to chicken scratch early to hide my mistakes. This was the product of watching about 15 minutes of an hour long art class. I drew along as I watched so it took me 4 hours to do the torso on the left and about 30 minutes from memory for the torso on the right (which was done after the form practice). I really want to speedrun and make art of my character so bad but I know this sort of stuff takes patience. The last art piece I put out of my character someone said it was disturbing and unnerving.
Heres a drawing i made back in march. Gotta work on more dynamic poses.
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>>75368528animating AAAA>>75370297he found the on button! Good to hear you're having fun anon :>>>75377226>>75377525gonna drive that car all night>>75390060cheating is the wrong word for it. It's more like you're depriving yourself of training your eyes on how to pick up on that stuff naturally. I would go for the trace if you're only really having trouble figuring it out. But even then, before you do trace, draw it out yourself so you can at least see how you might want to change your method of approach next time.
Some doodles since i got some free time(Doe on the right was drawn by a friend that tried to draw her for first time)>>75370297Nice to see that you're feel well and drew some more of them>Making him act like a reluctant goofball is funYeah, that's what healthy relationship looks like>>75372888Looks pretty nice>>75392718God bless that jiggle psychic
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>>75373691>>75383760>>75387690Uh, guys, I don't remember making these posts...
>>75383760If you hate making art, then maybe art isn't the hobby for you, anon.
>>75393546>If you hate making art, then maybe art isn't the hobby for you, anon.Real talk though, and this is directed towards all of you guys here in /dig/, but what makes you draw despite all the hardships of art?I've heard from artists that genuinely seem to hate what they do and seem to be stuck in an endless cycle of pain, and it makes me wonder why they're making art if it seems to be a negative part of their life. Some of these people under this umbrella also seem to be more into making the art for views or attention that they want to satiate. It honestly makes me sad when I see someone doing it fully for the results without genuinely enjoying the process of creating.Others I know who "hate" making art say it hyperbolically when things are just not going their way, but there clearly is some love for the craft in there.I'm one of those guys who connects with the artist side of his identity that ripping it out would feel like ripping out an essential core of what makes me *me*, so despite the hardships I face, I could never imagine trying to stop doing this. I feel like stopping would rob me of my purpose in this world. And it's just fun to make pretty pictures/animations, and it's super cool that people online can also enjoy said artwork.So, what keeps YOU drawing, year after year?
>>75393546If your reading comprehension is that lacking, then perhaps a text heavy website isn't for you.
>>75393813I keep drawing because sometimes I make things like pic related (Ivy my beloved), and that feels good, and I want to keep making more things that I and others think are cool, but it frustrates me--immensely--when I can't seem to get better at art by practicing like how every other skill works. Seriously, why does art have to be so fucking weird? It's like the only skill that works in a quantum manner; I am both good and bad and decent and lacking and amazing all at the same time, forever, without reprieve. I know what I am doing, except when I don't, and then I have no idea. My latest drawing is the best drawing ever, until the next one, at which point it will become the worst--which it always was, I just couldn't recognize it.It's such a silly hobby. Anyways, I'm trying not to schizopost but you asked, so.
>>75393833Maybe, but at least I don't hate myself even if I do something incorrectly or wrong, which the anon says it does. He should do work that makes him happy or feel a sense of progress despite the struggle, if you enter into a labor that makes you feel horrible about yourself even after acknowledging the labor you put into it, and no matter what you do, you still feel shitty about it, maybe you shouldn't do it.Sometimes, it helps these people that are dooming themselves to never liking what they do, to just tell them they should do something else. It's enough of a kick to make them either do something they actually like or realize that maybe it's them that need to change in order to appreciate the hobby they're doing and start enjoying themselves instead of being completely miserable because of self-hate.But yea you're epic leddit reply was based and demeurpilled.>>75393813I like making art, regardless of the results. I've worked in graphic design for both creative and marketing aspects, from "soul" to "soulless" content, and the way you stay sane is by enjoying the workflow and how you get things done. Nothing makes me feel more accomplished than making clients happy, when they say that it's exactly what they wanted and the cash alongside it helps a lot. For a personal artistry, it's more about the liberties and imagination you can discover and explore within the arts, aka cool and gay shit.
>>75394615tl;drpywngmi etc
>>75394629carb
>nigger telling others to give up calling others crabsdamn, the kettle calling the mirror black type situation
Drew this today
>>75370236Gotta shake of the rust of taking ONE day off. Drawing probably my first two animated crushes, I'm surprised I haven't drawn them before.>>75393813>So, what keeps YOU drawing, year after year?Can't say I hate it, it's just a struggle from time to time. I always wanted to draw, but I wasted my near infinite free time when I was in school not drawing. Now I'm in my 30s with no real hobbies outside of vidya, so I decided to do what I always wanted. I'm at a year and a half, so we'll see how long I can keep it up.Other than that, I enjoy the positive reception of people enjoying my art.
>>75393813>So, what keeps YOU drawing, year after year?Nothing. I just haven't died yet.
>>75393813So I'm gonna level with you. I hate art rather. I hate the process of learning. This goes for anything in the realm of subjectivity. At least with math there is one answer, it is simple, it is true, but art is one of those things that needs to be trained just to get an enjoyable result. Like nobody picks up the guitar or the piano to fail, they pick it up to try and play their favorite music or create their own songs, but every attempt to do as that before your ready leads into painful and constant failure. To be bombarded with that concept of failing everyday, every single day is daunting, it will always be daunting and it will be painful. Now there are people who don't often "SEE" failure in their work, the fun is more in the process of drawing. These people often don't get very good. Because they're not AS critical they often either get good or bad by happenstance of what they're doing in any given moment at the same time they don't care if they're bad or good so it works out will for them. At least they're drawing and that's more anyone can say about anyone else.Then you have the people who saw some video game cover, or some animation or concept art and they thought to themselves "I want to be like that" Put up a high goal that one would need multiple decades just to scratch at the ability required to do it and then they start art with THAT as the base. These are the people that normally fail, they either become some of the greater artist in the game, or on their path to becoming it, or they die a month end and crab it up in IC asking the same questions over and over again searching for the same shortcuts, or wisdoms or methods. Anything to give some solidity to the journey beyond just constant repetition of each day looking at a paper filled with lines and circles questioning how "THAT" is going to get you answer closer to drawing that super cool mech you saw. Constantly like that for days, weeks, months until you either give up or stop caring.
>>75393813>75397258I, like many other people are RESULTS oriented. I did not care for ANYTHING I did when I first started and I hated myself so much for being such a garbage sack of shit artist. Only reason I was able to keep going is because I went through a REALLY bad break up at the time. Lost my whole friend group. I was alone for hours at a time, all my games were mutiplayer and even the singleplayer ones became hollow. Only thing that held any fun was drawing and I just kept at it. Eventually I got good enough to the point where the result I achieved was at least PASSABLE. I was able to create something I thought was good enough. I lowered my goal post constantly. I became impressed by other artstyles that had far more simplicity to them.When I first started I wanted to draw anime. Guess was, anime is fucking hard to draw at it's core, so I can either keep bashing my head against the wall, hoping one day I'll get really good at anime being able to taste bitter defeat every day, OR or I can draw some really nice looking cartoon horses, or get decent at sonic. Learn the basics of drawing by attack simplistic artstyles that will grow my confidence and drawing skill and then eventually gradually move my way up from there.That's legit my own path. Now I'm drawing more anime adjacent things and trust me its slower than if I just grinded fundies constantly, but that's not realistic and i'm not autistic enough to shovel pain into my face on a daily basis.
>>75397395I am the potential of every failed artist, the only difference between me and any of the equally retarded people exactly like me who really want to do this art thing is like, one bad day and being a lowering my own personal standards and then eventually boosting them back up again slowly over time.
Sorta final, i really don't have anything to add at render itself (maybe add some background but i'll think about it)Thoughts?>>75395936Looks pretty good. But i don't think you will be able to see her breasts from that angle as a viewer, or otherwise they are really huge>>75396539I dig those proportions but i think their head should be a bit smaller
oh boy, boobies!
>>75397445You're not alone, but don't kill yourself over it. Keep on keeping on, and you'll get there eventually. Enjoy the journey.
>>75397648Nice!I need to also get to work on lighting and shading
>>75393813I hear tales of the artists that make it big all having a burning, pathological NEED to create. Y'know, to the point of being willing to survive deprivation just to put pencil to paper. For example, animators in the Soviet Union were paid a pittance for their work, enough for the most basic necessities and maybe a bottle of cheap vodka each month. What did they nearly always decide to do with those meager means? Pool what little they had and buy some more art supplies for the whole studio to better their craft, of course.I can vouch for this, sort of. I know what it's like to get lost in the flow only to realize it's nearly night time and my stomach's hurting like a motherfucker due to missing a couple of meals. Unfortunately, my flame doesn't get sparked all that often, leading to an agonizing cycle of starting a project, getting sidetracked by IRL bullshit and before I know it, it's been months since I last so much as thought about picking up the pencil again. Despite this, I like to think I've gotten pretty good, at linework at least, but it's also got me in something of a state of learned helplessness where I dread starting anything big and long term, like learning a new skillset for a new part of the process (coloring and shading being the big ones that I've never really gotten any good, consistent practice in with), so I just end up staying in my comfort zone cuckbox like a moron.
>>75368528the soul fears the suffering of being called crigne onlinebut i must break this fear, for only after it is killed i can be truly a deulsional schizo and gain insane art gainz
I sketch a fair bit here and there but i took a long break and now but I'm at a loss where to go, how to restart or generally what to study.I put together pic related as an example of my current skill level , any advice anons? I'm unsure what to do
>>75398337I'm already there, at least to a point of popularity. I see myself in a lot of people in IC and drawing improvement threads, so I know that my happenstance isn't unique.That's why I called myself the potential of every failed artist. I'm just one of those guys who hate art and myself yet still went long enough to become an artist of some small amount of merit.Unfortunately I'm dealing with the issue of being a boring piece of shit now
>>75394015>Seriously, why does art have to be so fucking weird? It's like the only skill that works in a quantum manner; I am both good and bad and decent and lacking and amazing all at the same time, forever, without reprieve. I know what I am doing, except when I don't, and then I have no idea.That gave me a good chuckle, because I find that very true as well, having moments of art highs and lows. I think one key difference between my artblocks from back then to now is simply the fact that I've stopped getting so mad at myself. Just gotta let it go, try again another day, and hope after enough time it passes.>>75394615>I like making art, regardless of the results...for a personal artistry, it's more about the liberties and imagination you can discover and explore within the arts, aka cool and gay shit.Yeah, I agree in the sense that there's this inherent fun-ness to drawing that keeps me going, even when it gets rough.>>75394896>nigger telling others to give up calling others crabsI don't think it's as simple as telling people to give up, but rather re-examining your reason to why you're doing a thing. Sometimes people realize a pursuit isn't for them, and there's nothing wrong with that to spend your time to find other pursuits you genuinely enjoy more. Plus, sometimes not doing that thing for a while can really help you see if it's something you want to return to, if there's an itch to get back.>>75396539>I always wanted to draw, but I wasted my near infinite free time when I was in school not drawing.Ugh, same. I used to play League in middle/high school for HOURS, like spending 8 hours on a Saturday playing it. I still feel sad thinking about how much art gains I could have made if I even just halved my gaming time back then.>>75396867>Nothing. I just haven't died yet.Nothing really? There has to be some reason, deep down there.
>>75397258>I hate the process of learning.>>75397395>I, like many other people are RESULTS oriented.That's interesting, and I remember there was this one guy who I tried to mentor that went nowhere, because every time I wanted to teach him stuff, he'd moan and groan about the process of learning. Kind of like when Aang hated Jeong Jeong for not teaching him how to blast fire right away before learning the basics/fundamentals of firebending. I unfortunately had to stop with him, because I remember him telling me he hated drawing, because he just wanted to be good right away without actually spending the time it takes to hone the skill to be good. Then again, that just sounds like a thing where a person just doesn't want to take the time to get good at something.>>75399569>I hear tales of the artists that make it big all having a burning, pathological NEED to create.I feel this so hard. Even if I weren't to make it big, as I said before, taking away my ability to create would cripple who I am as a person. If the world took my eyes from me, man, I don't know if I'd be on this planet for much longer.Anywho, interesting responses from you all. I appreciate the input....I would post some art in here, but I am still planning an (extremely stupid and funny) animation.
>>75403199>75402762This is me now like again I get it, I got over it, but at the end of the day I only made it because the results got good enough for me to tolerate the effort that I had to put in.If anything I'm just trying to speak to the people like me. There are a lot of people like me who will hear tales of people suffering in a goolag spending their last crumb of bread money on art supplies, but that will only serve to drain them, making them feel lesser because they lack some type of magical "Spark" that they don't have some type of "It Factor" when in reality they just don't want it enough. Anyone who says they want to draw and improve and doesn't either has a real medical/mental deficiency, or they just flat out do not want it enough. They see the pain and the constant anguish and the failure and they say "I have better things to do with my life." and they proceed to either only do what is fun for them, or they stop because they can't even do that because "Fun" is being "GOOD"How many people trying to learn to draw are always comparing themselves to others, comparing themselves to younger people who are better than them. Making up bullshit about how someone has superior genetics, or ranting about someone being bigger than them yet their art being worse.I think the true statement is that I love learning, but hate practice. I have to constantly remind myself that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I cannot remove myself from the journey, I constantly feel my feet stepping on everything stone on my path, my thighs getting tired, my body just becoming fatigued. I cannot just turn all that off. I doubt nobody can. I can only assume that people go on in spite of it, or they see the pain and the fatigue as badges of honor a constant reminder of what it's all for, or they could just not be thinking about it what so ever and mindlessly chasing the goal. I do not know.
>>75403743>I think the true statement is that I love learning, but hate practice.Amen. I was hoping you'd say that. I think most people love the aspect of learning, especially that spark of learning a new skill. It's the nitty gritty difficult process of putting things to practice, the "grind" so to speak, that turns certain people off. One thing I have learned about myself is that there are certain activities I find fun, and other activities I can only really do with a different external motivation. Exercise is a common one for many people, myself included: I cannot motivate myself to go on a morning walk for exercise purposes, but if you give me a friend to chat with while walking? I could go on for hours, because the exercise portion has become a backdrop to the greater activity of spending time with someone. I also lifted weights for a class in high school, and I made some surprising gains, because of course I wanted an A in that class for my efforts. My arms have become noodle-y again, because I have no motivator for that, or, rather, I don't want it *hard enough*.But for some people, despite the hardships, there's no quitting it. This applies to any skill or pursuit of knowledge. I think the reason we see so much more vitriol in a subjective place like art is due to that very transient nature of it, compared to (as you put it earlier) learning something like math with an objective answer.I'm very big on doing things for personal reasons first. Letting external factors control that can really make you lose the reason why you're doing that thing, and that's why I asked the question in the first place. I'm not trying to tell people to quit per se, but I'm hoping people can ask themselves more honestly why they do this.It's fun for me, and it always has been, even when I was a dumb kid scribbling stick figure fights in his notebooks. I want to improve of course, but improvement (or lack thereof) will not impede my desire to create.
Alright, enough text vomit from me: I realized I could make a SFW version of my last animation (honestly, I really need more of SFW versions of my work that I can show to people IRL).
>>75393813I remember One day I drew this object and I thought I needed to draw more of her so she could keep smiling
>>75393813>So, what keeps YOU drawing, year after year?i don't know
>>75401283I'd say your technical skills are good, at least good enough that grinding basic concept art-ish pieces isn't going to be very efficient in learning and improving further. Try placing your characters in environmental contexts and making them do more than just passively stand/sit around, that'll help you break out of your comfort zone and tackle more challenging subject matters, which will speed up your learning substantially.
I'm out of adderall guys :(
>>75403995It is a true statement for people like me that we need to LOVE art, love art like we'd love a SO that there wouldn't be anything you can do without it and you'll do anything to keep them with you, or anything to get them in the first place. That level of love is a requirement
Anyone have good character posing for just mundane/candid purposes? I want to flesh out my OCs in more slice-of-life drawings, existing as their own people, but I'm having a hard time searching for references that do that (especially since stock photos have that "stock photo" feel)
>>75406171I look through pinterest and like trying to find candid photography, lots of teenagers taking pictures being casualhttps://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=candid%20photography&rs=ac&len=10&source_id=ac_YBgbIG90&eq=candid%20pho&etslf=4146
What's the tolerance level here for drawings that are catastrophically bad? I'm talking, really, REALLY bad, think Chris Chan tier. Asking because most of the people here are actually good at drawing. I know anatomy practice is a thing, but there are some poses that are pretty tricky and it can be difficult to find references for them, certain angles in which a big part of the body isn't visible so you just have to surmise where the parts that are actually visible would fit. I'm talking specifically a from behind view of a female spreading her asscheeks and pussy with both hands while looking back at the viewer, at an angle in which the back isn't really visible so it kind of disappears from view, same goes for most of the arms, I tried giving it a go to see if I could draw more or less what I had in mind and the results were... yeah...
>>75377226Understandable, keep up the good work
>>75406273>What's the tolerance level here for drawings that are catastrophically bad?We take all comers, all of us were complete noobs once upon a time, after all.>there are some poses that are pretty tricky and it can be difficult to find references forIn such an event, posable 3D models are a viable alternative, provided you know your way around software for posing them, and ideally, making them since it'll be unlikely you can find one that's exactly to your tastes out there, especially anthro ones.>I'm talking specifically a from behind view of a female spreading her asscheeks and pussy with both hands while looking back at the viewer, at an angle in which the back isn't really visible so it kind of disappears from view, same goes for most of the armsSo, something to the effect of pic related? There's a lot of good reference porn images out there, but you'll often have to trawl through vague tags to find something close to your ideas. This one's just from a stash of random interesting ones I've happened to save for future reference, a habit everyone should get into, if for no other reason than to have a folder (or several, if you've got a collection large enough that a bit of organization helps) to look at when you're out of ideas.
>>75406261>lots of teenagers taking pictures being casual
>>75362459the looped part is sketched out. >>75392718>big boobapreposterous>>75394015will you draw Ivy in line with the eventual redesigned version, or do you like her more "uggo" version better?
>>75407645I like her 'ugly' design a lot more, but I can't draw at all right now, so there will be no Ivy for a while.
>>75406273Nobody here’s going to judge you for not being a great artist. I’ve seen people of all skill levels post here just fine. We’re all suffering from the same struggle.>I know anatomy practice is a thing, but there are some poses that are pretty tricky and it can be difficult to find references for them3D posers are fine for that but I recommend you practice drawing from imagination, which is a whole other skill separate from anatomy. Get comfortable with anatomy and figure drawing first, though. If your drawings are really “Chris Chan tier”, it sounds like you need to study the fundamentals more.
>>75397491How many times are you going to keep posting this with minuscule changes? Finish it and move on.
>>75406273>I'm talking, really, REALLY bad, think Chris Chan tierHonestly, I think the issue doesn't lie with being "Chris Chan tier bad" per se but rather being immune to criticism and feeling entitled to attention/numbers. Personally, I think all the "bad" artists should exist, because sometimes you never know when/where a great artist could come from. It drives me nuts instead when people ask for advice, get genuine responses trying to help, and then said people just reject the advice/are ungrateful for it. The fact you're already self conscious about tolerance for stuff tells me you're not that kind of person, and you're someone that wants to improve. Fail, and fail hard here dude: we'll help ya (to the best of our abilities) if you genuinely want to improve.
Follow-up delivery I finished last night for the drawthread that I really enjoyed making. Indulging in gay stuff is great when I'm into it and I was quite fond of the 2nd panel. Thinking on it now just about every gay thing I've drawn has included a fire-type. It must be the heat.>>75392718She has one button and thats "FUCK". I say this often but your scaly ladies are nothing short of excellent and your animations as of late have been super appealing. Titty dropping is S-tier please keep ruining my neurons.>>75393099>random foot practiceMiyazki is breathing heavily somewhere. A small break was in order but I'm hopefully on track. The context behind the cardboard cutout is pretty clever and its a funny display of vanity on her part. "So there's a truck full of these outside and I need them to be placed in every office PRONTO!">>75393813>So, what keeps YOU drawing, year after year?I've had my ups and downs but being able to bring the ideas of myself and others to has always been motivating. Its nice to make anons happy and despite my efforts to convince myself otherwise looking back and seeing my gradual improvements over the years has felt good.>>75396539Those gals really did sow the seeds of our degeneracy...I think I can see Miss Kitty hiding behind them if I squint hard enough.
>>75403137>Nothing really? There has to be some reason, deep down there.When I was a kid maybe, because I wanted to make a game. But now I know how to draw and code but it's just too much work so I watch shit on youtube instead. My last interest of drawing was a general that already died, nowadays I just draw as a cope due to sunken cost fallacy.
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watch my page 9 go bangnow he lyin on the floor, look like kurt cobainout in sunny california, we got no rainnow you got no brain, when the 9 go bang
>>75406273>What's the tolerance level here for drawings that are catastrophically bad?Don't worry about that. These anons have tolerated someone like me for years now. You'll be fine in here
>>75404062Oh yeah now it's safe for work
>>75393813A desire to be something more than the usual me who can be easily viewed as a person who only does exist. I have no talents, no bigger aspirations or goals and have been more interested in doing activities for a short kick of fun day to day then building up my life like any good man should. But eventually it just irked me in a way and I remembered that I once had interest in picking up drawing but feel out of it after burning myself out a long long time ago. So here I am, the second attempt at it while I still mainly live my life like I always have, doing pretty much nothing
>>75393192Good advice thanksBut how do I choose?
Graphic design is (not) my passion. I'm frustated. I tried designing a reference sheet for my raven girl but i'm kinda stuck. I wanted to get a similar design like the reference sheets i already have but i also don't want to copy it too much.So far i'm happy with the text of her name but i'm unsure which color to pick for a background, elements (like leafs / feathers) and if i should use borders / boxes to push her more in the foreground.Anyone got tips or resources?
>>75402762I understand, I feel like that at times too.Hope you're able to break through the miasma/neurosis.
Is it obvious that this mostly bezier curves? does it look "cheap"? tried adding varying line weight manually to the curves, that is if you can see it through all the shit i put on top of course>>75377226>car wifewhat's her MPB? (miles per borger)>>75387690>3 daysheh, if only you knew>>75392718I imagine putting those back in the suit has to be like like putting a tent back in the bag.>>75404062>show people IRLyou are braver than me, i fear someone finding my unleashed autism.
all of my drawings have been grumpy or angry lately!>>75393813i've got this inexplicable drive to just wanna create things and express myself with said creationslittle weird considering i mostly just do pinups n stuff, i'd like to break out of my comfort zone with that somedayi think the final goal for me is animation, but i'm gonna have to rework my process a TON to make that viable (mostly cause it's slow as hell)better to teach myself now instead of growing old(er) and looking back on what i could've been doingplus, i like the sense of community it gives even if i'm not talking to people within it too much lol
>>75368528i'm in charge of about $20 million of projects because my management fucking quit outta nowhere, i don't know what i'm doing, and rarely find the time to draw now because i'm trying to hold shit together while 10 different people ask me to do 30 different things
I subconsciously end up straightening a lot of shit when I draw and it makes a shitty drawing turn out horrid. I fucking hate it.
>color and shade my drawing>it looks worse everytimeFucking why
>>75382946woah....I really like the way you interpreted my initial idea....I actually tried again and ended up liking the result, I think I could have drawn the ocean better but that's for next time. for now I'm content I went out of my comfort zone and ended up making something I'm proud of>>75389432only bad things happen to Romeo but not like tragically bad things hilariously ironic thingsand nice gato! theres no such thing as too much weed cat>>75413659really like how blocky your style is, good stuff!thank you! your bear girl is looking just as good>>75393813I want to be able to create stuff no ones ever seen before, I want to get my bizarre and vivid imagination out there for at least someone to see
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>>75409468You know for how long I have been drawing shark girls ? I think I finally nailed the look of the head that I actually and will be drawing from now on.
Dang, didnt mean to reply to you anon.
>>75396539Saw a challenge to recreate the first furry porn you ever saw from memory. While I don't remember my first, I'm doing the oldest I can think of. I might be combining two images together, but I'll look it up when I'm closer to being done.
>>75419376Fuckin forgot to attach the image.
>>75407437>>75407709>>75408573>>75410557ok, I decided not to upload the drawing because it was SO bad BUT I found a reference that's pretty close to what I was going for, pic related, I actually wanted a lower angle with more of a focus on the pussy, with the back and arms being less visible, and the breast flat out being not visible, but that might have more to do with the breast size and not so much the angle, since the character I wanted to draw has small breasts so they might not be visible even from this angle, still, this is pretty close to what I was going for
>>75396539>a year and a halfI'm at two years and I'm nowhere near that level, but then again, I don't draw everyday, but rather when I have the time, which is like once a month, I also don't have a comfortable workspace which makes it harder, meaning no big desk to put a paper or tablet on with one or two screens for reference to use while I attempt to draw. in any case, good stuff, do you post your stuff anywhere?
Shoutout to the anons that bullied me (complimentary) to push past just doing construction. Been a long time since I've had a positive outlook on my drawings.
>>75419762You can find me @KromaticArts on Twitter and Bluesky or KromaticAtrocity on FA.Picrel is from December 31 2023, pretty much day 5 for me. I did draw some before, but it was maybe like once or twice a year, so I don't count it.When I started, I bought some big paper pads from the dollar store and used those. It's trash paper and I didn't care if I drew like shit on them. They're also really big, which made it easier to use my whole arm when drawing. I also looked up references on my phone. What I'm trying to get at here is that you don't need a lot of fancy shit to get going. I'm sure you know this, but it bears saying.You also don't have to draw everyday. Every few days is fine, but try to carve out a few hours a week if you can. But I know that's easier said than done.
Something's throwing me off about her upper body. I plan on having a hand scratch her belly, so she gets all excited like a dog and does that thing where they lean to one side, but it just seems "off". Any idea?
What should I focus on improving as a priority and what are some ways to go about improving that?I used a reference for the pose and body type for this image
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>>75413635>Is it obvious that this mostly bezier curves? does it look "cheap"?No and no. I wouldn't have guessed it was vector work unless I knew to look for tell-tale details (some of the wrinkling on the dress gives it away by being just a little too uniform in width and too perfectly curved or straight, but not something you'd notice with a casual glance), very good job hiding it. Must have taken a lot fiddling.>>75419376>>75419388This seems like a fun exercise. I think I might be cheating it a bit though, since I hunted down and saved a lot of the old furry pieces I remembered from back in the days of my misspent youth for my personal offline collection, so my mental picture's got a lot more clarity than it probably should for the spirit of the challenge, but eh, it's been a few years since I last looked at some of them. I might give it a shot, already picked out the one I'll do and it happens to line up with a certain kind of emotional vibe I've been looking for an excuse to try my hand at.>>75420337Happy to be of service. Keep us posted on your progress.>>75422619Only thing that really stands out to me here is that the muzzle and eyes don't quite match with the angle of the head that the ears and neck would suggest; the muzzle should be in more of a 3/4 angle like the rest of the body, or the ears and neck should turn towards the viewer more.Hard to say on the rest. I'm guessing you stuck to the reference material fairly closely, and that often masks one's shortcomings. Useful study practice, but difficult to evaluate accurately for an outside observer with no knowledge of your prior work.
>>75393813>So, what keeps YOU drawing, year after year?I easy can getting bored, but not with drawing. Just so many different possibilities to try something new/different each time, there is a some kind of nerdy masochistic pleasure in it. For me is more like about the process itself, a semblance of self-knowledge and limits of my mindEven my sona is a compilation of my shortcomings at the time of his when i still taking my own early steps at drawing(anxiety, scared of attention, feeling outcasted, don't talking with people around and etc). Sure i started to feel better after sometime and Russell become more cartoony, but it's still funny how one of the main steps for me was just expressing how i felt myself at the first place. So yeah, drawing can suck and still be cool as much as you do>>75404333That's really cute, do have more or blog?>>75408856Great pic, nice and steamy. >I really enjoyed making.Yeah, i can see it>quite fond of the 2nd panelSame, also those kiss panels>Miyazki is breathing heavily somewhereI don't get it, please explain >vanityThat's a good point that fits her personality >"So there's a truck full of these outside and I need them to be placed in every office PRONTO!"Looks like someone got a promotion and wanted to celebrate it, huh?>>75412485Personally think that left one looks good, background with leafs kinda don't fit her a bit of grim/goth look>75413659>75423048Blog?>75417210Really nice mood on this one
>>75426737shinrai.bsky.social
>>75421868maybe the hip lines are wrong? or maybe just not emphasized enough
>Page 10Death or the Pen.Your choice.
>>75419376>>75419388>>75424132>I might give it a shot, already picked out the one I'll do and it happens to line up with a certain kind of emotional vibe I've been looking for an excuse to try my hand at.Sketch is complete enough that I've allowed myself to take a peek at the original and compare.I figured I'd remembered the arm positioning a little wrong, but I entirely forgot the legs were positioned in a crouch-stand instead of a kneeling/sitting position. Also forgot the stallion's more of a burly draft horse than a pretty boy race horse, and the mare's not quite as solidly built as she should be, either. Head angling is off, too. Hah, I initially drew the mare with pinned ears but decided against it, turns out my initial gut instinct would have been correct on that one. I was actually pretty certain the upper mane on the mare was down, but I couldn't resist making her whip it up, heh. Could have sworn the stallion was putting his mouth on the mare's nipple, too, but I get why I misremembered it so with how close his mouth is to it. Funny how imperfect memory is, ain't it? Still, I got the broad strokes more or less right and it was a good go at doing a nice, intimate cuddlefuck in a somewhat unconventional pose. Probably going to leave it as is for now unless you lot really want to see a cleaned up and refined linework version.In case you're wondering who made the original piece, that'd be Furrtiv and it's titled "Gold on Black" in the filename I had in my stash. Doesn't appear to be on e621, or much of anything else other than a whopping two (2) images by the artist, for that matter. Fucking wannabe archivists are sleeping at the goddamn wheel again.Oh, and to enhance the nostalgia of the process, I put on some music from an artist I used to listen to back in roughly the same timeframe as I saw the image. One of the songs was so fitting to the proceedings it's frankly a little scary:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1uqZaSkXE
>>75430287One of the cool parts of this challenge is that it basically forces you to fill in the gaps in your memory with your own sensibilities. You ultimately create something that's actually inspired by the original and not a carbon copy.Personally, I think the poses and composition on yours looks a lot better than the original.>Fucking wannabe archivists are sleeping at the goddamn wheel again.Yeah, I've been having a hard time finding things I saw years ago too. They need to pick up the slack.
now it loops properly. will extend the length of the dickriding section in another program manually when it's finished.
>>75431572Really nice, one of the best looping gifs I've seen in recent years. Shame I can't jerk off to it.
>>75431572Do you go straight into the animation with sketches like this or do you do the construction first? This is amazing.
>>75393813>Real talk though, and this is directed towards all of you guys here in /dig/, but what makes you draw despite all the hardships of art?>So, what keeps YOU drawing, year after year?Amputee monkey porn
>>75431625>Shame I can't jerk off to it.Because it's not finished?>>75431631I do a mix of construction and sometimes just placing lines where they feel right. I erase alot at this stage and not to an equal amount in every frame, so the construction shapes are sometimes more noticeable, sometimes not.There was no sketching phase prior to this, This is pretty much the very first draft. When it comes to getting the movements to look good, it really is just a lot of replay, trying to notice when something looks off and always slightly adjusting, resizing, cropping and moving, until it kinda feels right.
>>75431801>Because it's not finished?No, personal preferences. I'm very autistic about certain stuff in the media that I consume.Still, you'll probably make some big fucking numbers in places like e621. How long have you been making animations for? >it really is just a lot of replaySounds tedious, but I guess it gets results. How many hours did it take you to get to this stage?
>>75431862>How long have you been making animations for?This was my first 2d animation, from a bit over two years ago. But I had some prior experience with Source filmmaker, so some of that knowledge probably carried over to 2d.The file has been opened for 18 hours, but I would have to deduct a few, because I sometimes just leave the program opened while taking breaks. I don't know the exact number though.
the final piece of the animation has been completed. I can now assemble them to build Goonxodia>>75393813>what makes you draw despite all the hardships of art?I think I just love it all. When I'm drawing something and slowly revealing the object onto a screen that can only be carved out from my brain and how I imagine it is exciting. Seeing it slowly come together and every step along that path to the end is a fun journey where I constantly get to reveal more and more of what's going on in my head to the page. For animating, its all about when you get things feeling alive, real, moving. I can never get over the feeling of that. Flipping back and forth between frames imagining how the next one should play, and comparing it to the little film you have trapped in your minds eye is thrilling to me as well. It wasn't easy to get to enjoy it all since I really was miserable with my art months ago until I just said fuck it, let go of the limitations I was putting on myself and started drawing whatever I wanted to. It has been very freeing, and although those strives for improvement are still there I get excited when I see what I can improve at now, not intimidated.>>75393099physics can be fun after all :^)>>75431572LORD ALMIGHTY i wasnt unaware such passion for this hot blue lizard existed... just when I thought u couldn't cook any harder. THIS ROCKS KEEP IT UP>>75402762I haven't grown to insane margins but one thing that helped me was really cutting loose from a lot of my previous restrictions and standards I had placed upon myself. I can't tell you how you should feel, but I do love the appeal within your forms. Is it at all possible you have placed certain stops on yourself that might be limiting how much you can enjoy art?>>75408856THANKS HEHEI've been testing a lot more with animation recently and there is so much you can sneak by that looks really good if you can know the right movements to skip or emphasize!
>>75431296>Personally, I think the poses and composition on yours looks a lot better than the original.Thank you kindly. I do have the advantage of working digitally as opposed to the original traditional piece, though. Can't fix your fuckups quite so easily on physical paper.
>>75432176What's she gonna do next?!
>>75348870Hey you sexy people. Looking for a tutorial image that shows the basic of rendering using a horse girl holding(?) an apple. I remember seeing it posted here often, but I lost the image.Anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>75432979That'd likely be Wolfy-Nail's cell shading tutorial. Here you go.
>>75433062That's it! Thank you, senpai.
>>75420423that's pretty good for day 5, I'm not at that level either, I mean, I guess I COULD make something like that, but it's require quite a bit of effort, stuff like the shading and highlights in the accesory and the eyes are like rocket science to me. I also have the problem of chicken scratching/shoddy linework, I really can't get it to look smooth
>>75426737>Personally think that left one looks good, background with leafs kinda don't fit her a bit of grim/goth lookThanks. I guess i have to find something that could fit for some goth background without standing out too much. Maybe some pattern.
I drew this recently and it's not finished. What should I change or look more at?
>>75436335im trying but these wings are beating my ass (this is me trying to draw Romeos mom)
i'm like a fungus. slow, and not very smart>>75392718>>75407645hot damn>>75401283seems like to work on shading/rendering now (just like me frfr)>>75413635i would not have suspected it was vector. i think overshoots hide it a lot>>75434249ratio between torso and legs is way off. and try to get more contrast so it would be easier to see what's drawn
>>75413635>hidden magnum dongNiiice. You did great with manually tweaking your lines and it doesn't look cheap at all.>>75413659Your floatzel from last time was nice and its good to see more from you. Your angular lines add a lot of charm to these and I really like them. I've never been able to pull that off as my brain just always defaults to round lines.>>75417210Thats the best part of having a punching bag...they always bounce back as if nothing happened. Usually. Solid work on this scene by the way. I can't place it but it makes me oddly nostalgic in a way.>>75420337Sometimes a nudge in the right direction is all you need. You're doing great so keep that positivity close.>>75426737Thanks. Drawing intense make-outs makes me feel good. Also SoulsBorneRing man loves his dainty feeties. Pic related.
Any thoughts on this start here? When would it be an appropriate time to draw characters at this stage? >>75391032>>75391141
Did ebanne ever draw more tutorials? even if this one is abstracted it's helped me a ton
'puter has issues starting up. It keeps getting itself stuck at the windows loading thing. Probably due to some funky connection that I can't troubleshoot with ease. I'm scared to plug my tablet. Pray for me and my money. >>75440861>E_banneGlad to know moth anon finally got himself a name.
If you love somebody show 'em every dayBecause the hourglass sand fall anywayIf you love somebody watch the shit you sayBecause you never know if you gonna see tomorrow
>>75441769>finallyHe's had his accounts for years at this point, anon.
Thoughts on this, other than the line weight being a problem and the hair not having enough detail?
>>75442610Personally, the things that stand out to me are; >Lines too straight>Curves too flat>Tit too low and not properly attached>Head/Face too small (can't really decide) >Resize arms, maybe>Tilt the pelvis, play around with it (something doesn't quite sit well with me)
>>75442577h-how long has it been...what year is this?
>>75444392I've been posting since at LEAST 2022, and I think Banne's been here for at least that long too.
Now where's earwiganon?
>>75445168have you checked your ear?
Sad girl..>>75440861>>75441769I havent made any other guudes, no! Looking back at that makes me cringe a bit since i feel a lot further ahead now and could donk myself on the head for some issues with it LOL. Im very happy you found it helpful however! I did go in with the goal of simple shapes, so im glad that could communicate well. But im still here, just doin different things now... like >>75432176 for example haha. Have an honorary Hersh :)Havent doodled her in a bit>>75444989Sounds about right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHrXjx4Oi8sThis was kind of a nice sentiment to hear.
I have to remind myself "they aren't all going to be bangers" whenever I make something rushed or lazy
studied the rick and morty art style for a funny
>>75447542Cute......would.
>>75446467I remember a drawing you made for me unprompted like a year or 2 backI still appreciate itthis is autistic but you are one of my inspirations to draw
>>75437762Sounds just like me. She looks wonderful so far btw. (Don't forget her tail)
>>75448111yay, its not only me who forgets the tail
Small doodle a bit of redesign since i plan to make model sheet for her>>75431572>>75432176Let's go!!!>>75432199Looks pretty nice, i like it so far>>75436580>wings are beating my assYeah, they can be tough. You can try to learn about birds for a bit for this one. Also her pussy line looks a bit off/too long, from front angle is way shorter you can look at irl pics for that>>75437762Pic come outs pretty good, keep going >75438478>Drawing intense make-outs makes me feel good.True>Pic relatedOk>75447542Based. Can you post some more of her?
>>75441769>'puter has issues starting up. It keeps getting itself stuck at the windows loading thing.Looks like I'm not the only one with potentially fatal machine issues at the current time. If you haven't already, now would be the time to back your shit up; I've already done so and now my main machine dying would be a relatively minor inconvenience rather than an existential calamity. Only real problem might be migrating some of the licensed software, but that's likely to only be a minor hassle and if it proves worse than that, I'll just start sailing the seven seas.>Pray for me and my money.You'll want to invest in an external hard drive. The non-SSD models (which are better for archival purposes anyhow) are pretty cheap even at large sizes (personally I'm rocking a 5tb one that set me back only around 150 smackers) and unless you hoard videos, it'll likely last you many years. Just remember to copy all your work over every week or so and even a sudden computer death won't fuck up your whole life.
How many of you anons only lurk in here? Also are you drawing or thinking of starting it?
>>75451649I occasionally lurk, but spend most of the time giving what advice I can, because I lead others to a treasure I cannot possess.I rarely post my art, because in the past I feared my art, and now I have grown to hate my art, and I don't know what to do about it. I want to change my style, but I feel trapped.
>>75451649I lurk because I just don't draw that much, it's been like 4 years and I've only drawn the equivalent of like maybe 12 A4 pages at most. I enjoy drawing, it's just that I feel like I'm not mentally stable enough to balance my life properly.
>>75451649I only lurk because I haven't made much progress in actual learning, I'm making a comic for myself and my partner and I want to get something done first before being stuck trying to make something perfect
>>75451678Actually, fuck it, genuine questionIs my art like, good? At all?I've reached the point where I believe everything I draw is bad
>>75451649Most of the time I'm lurking and just advising. I'm often thinking about starting a piece or two, but knowing they're almost certainly going to end up in the pile of perpetually unfinished projects, I usually just end up procrastinating until something else catches my imagination. It's a vicious cycle. I do almost always post whatever I do get off the ground (the latest being >>75430287 ) when I feel it's refined enough to show off and not read as an utterly inscrutable mess of lines you'd find in the tower of a mad wizard. Of course, therein lies the problem; a lot of my stuff doesn't even make it to that stage.>>75451678I've always felt you're too harsh on yourself, but the curse of every artist with the makings of greatness is being overly self-critical, I suppose. Still, what your gut's telling you about changing style might be fruitful, since positive change often comes from stepping way outside of your comfort zone. Your work reminds me of styles seen in Franco-Belgian comics, so if you haven't already, that'd be a good place to look for inspiration.>>75452815I find it quite appealing. Even in the ones with technical shortcomings, I usually like the designs, angles and poses you use. Of course, last time I saw your work consistently was a good while ago, so take my analysis with an appropriately-sized grain of salt.
>>75452815It's definitely not bad. It's just a little rough around the edges. For example, her wrist is definitely broken. Then again, she's a robot, so maybe she can do whatever she wants with it; and there are some perspective issues with her lower body. Like her pelvis is coming closer to the camera but also going further away at the same time.The forms are clear though, and most everything is about where it should be. The lips are very good, and that's an underrated area when it comes to difficulty. Faces and lips are HARD. I also like the composition of the background, simple as it may be.Don't be too hard on yourself. You just need a bit of refinement like a lot of us. You're in a good place. Keep going.
>>75452072same
https://youtu.be/QB9t5vYqz3k?si=PlaxoRAXWQ4azG3wI like this video.
Study. Don't know if I should really call it that, it was just a draw from reference, but whatevs. Not totally cooked but still not really feeling it.
>>75417210Very well done plandigitigrade anon!I'm happy I could be of help>>75426737Thanks, though sadly that's all I still have of her. I posted my FA in the previous thread, but you won't find much like that or the last post I made
>>75443446What do you mean by 'curves too flat' and 'resize arms'? Which way do you want me to resize the arms? in terms of length or width? are they too big or small?
>>75458169This is going to sound harsh, but what that anon is saying in so many words is, you need to learn anatomy. Like the drawing isn't rough, but there are a bunch of little things that are off, the root cause of which are all simply practice and learning. So I would take what anon said, and individually practice and study each of those areas. Study the torso and how the limbs attach to it, study the limbs, study the head/skull, etc. Study references to get an idea for how the human body is constructed.Personally I'd look into the standard proportions of the human body, and go from there. Everything can be proportioned according to everything else, and it's where most mistakes stem from.
>>75458169We subconsciously straighten curves and angles because to our monkey brains they represent stability. Your issue is that you are not seeing the curves for what they are and as a result you let your monkey brain take over. Instead of a C you end up drawing an L. As for the arms, they are disproportionately big compared to the rest of the body. >>75458287Not necessarily anatomy, more like better line control/expression and proportion. The basics for a better result are there, a few tweaks and he'll be able to produce something way better than that, but it is true that no amount of tweaks will not fix his fundamental mistakes. If he feels like going back to anatomy 101, then he has nothing to lose.
>>75452896>>75453001I am pretty hard on myself, but I've never known how not to be. I believe everyone's capable of amazing things, I just need to try harder and think smarter. Maybe I just need to keep making things and it'll all work out.Funny that you bring up Franco-Belgian comics, because I have never read a single one, but that one image you posted speaks to me. Personally, I've always been going for the 50s-60s look in my art; Albert Dorne and Al Williamson in particular, but, I don't think I've got that magic yet.Now the problem with trying to change style is - I think it's my pen. Not my physical pen but the ones I've made in my chosen software (firealpaca because I'm Mad) - I can never escape it, any time I make a new one I hate it, I change it gradually, and eventually end up with the pen I began with. I have tried so many times to change HOW I draw, and I always get pulled back into my old art because it plays to my pen's strengths. It's bad form to blame your tools, but, I need to innovate.
>>75457663this is lovely anon, good work!
>>75451649I've mostly just stuck with lurking and giving occasional advice because I have a constant feeling of perpetual internalized shame + feeling as though I'm beholden to provide objective material value solely towards others that pervades me and prevents me from actually wanting to put in any effort towards my art and creations and imagination, though I am trying to overcome those parts of me by looking at them objectively and learning to come to terms with them so that I may eventually stop judging myself so harshly and stop seeing myself as only good as what people tell me to do.Even now I'm trying to power through it and actually do shit I've always wanted to do like actually write down my own inner musings and conceptualized art/game/comic concepts so I finally commit them to paper instead of languishing in my own mind daydreaming everything away as an escape from myself rather than using them as an actual creative outlet.I wanna express myself and my imagination but I gotta plow through the barriers first so I'm not just stuck staring at shadow puppets on a metaphorical cave wall, I guess.
>>75437762>>75405265Thanks guys!
Its getting hot again and I yearn for cold wet masses of liquid to bath in, so here is cat in a swimsuit again. First time in a while that I drew entirely without reference, didn't even flip the pages to look at older drawings of her.This does confirm the rather obvious that she has been burned into my brain and drawing her has become second nature, her and my very mistake riddled understanding of he basics, which should not be much. Also I'm not sure on how to draw masses of water like this but looking up infinitely better artists do this would have misses the point so we just roll with it. Blog post time (just skip that part) Yesterday I was getting a call by one of my friends and we spend time talking about various unrelated topics while we were both drunk. Eventually though we got to the topic of my drawing skills. He pointed out to me that for the time i have been trying to draw I have not shown much growth and anyone else would do better in that same timeframe. I then called him a alcoholic and we laughed about the lack of self awareness in that statement. But this is son of a bitch is right. My growth is too slow and at the current pace I will be in my 30's before even making something really nice. So the best course of action would be to admit to my own laziness and actually changing my ways so that I can reach my fullest potential in a timely fashion. God help me... Tldr I'm coping
>>75458593>>75458287Hmm, That's probably a side effect of me using a line tool and a mouse to be quite honest with you. Thanks though
>>75458888>I have never read a single one, but that one image you posted speaks to me.That'd be by one Jean Giraud, better known by his pseudonym of Moebius, who was quite the influential figure in art circles. The Japanese in particular have found his work captivating, with even Hayao Miyazaki citing him as an influence. It'll be well worth your while to add some of his work to your bookshelf.
Did this for Deltarune tomorrow
And this shit because a friend and i were talking about saltyxodium that he always draws sweaty huge asses. This was just mouse in paint.
>>75460844At a glance I thought it was a sweaty pair of FAT NUTS
it is finished....>>75448021you'd have to remind me since ive had plenty of unsuspecting victims I've made art for in this thread>this is autistic but you are one of my inspirations to drawWOAH. I have a few artists that are my biggest inspirations myself, so I get it. I'm so glad to know others can find me inspiring, that really means so much anon :D i hope to keep inspiring
>>75460766That looks absolutely gorgeous. The closest comparison I can think of is Kill Six Billion Demons, which I haven't read extensively but have seen many panels from and al of them are pretty. I need to study these.
Shitty ballpoint sketch.
I must not perfectionismperfectionism is the improvement killerperfectionism is the little death that brings total stagnationI will face my perfectionismI will permit it to pass over me and through meAnd when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its pathWhere the fear has gone, there will be nothingOnly improvement will remain
>>75464462I forgot to unhide several layers here and it looks like floating torsos but fuck it it's a bump
Still trying to refine my issue with the whole SFW art thing vs NSFW art. I've noticed that majority of the time when I'm looking at a SFW piece, I do always refer to it is boring, but it's boring in the way that mundane everyday task are bound to be. But that's not a major point of contention because my reasoning for desiring the image, is because I feel like it would be a good tool to have when trying to endear my own characters to my audience.As a previous anon has said before, it's about having room for audience speculation, getting people to become more engaged with my characters would always be a bonus and a boon. I often bring up my contemporaries like NuclearWasabi and Rapscallion. On a piece by piece basis their work is not often the most stand out pieces. They aren't doing crazy angles or the most detailed backgrounds, but I find myself endeared to their characters. They depict nonsexual situations enough for me to engage with them on a mental level. However, I still have the problem of seeing their work as some what "Boring" by the nature of what it is. I don't know how to solve it. Like I'm trying to avoid that "Pornstar/porn magazine" vibe where it feels like everything serves the purpose of the camera. I don't even want to acknowledge the camera and when I do I want it to be because somebody in the scene itself is taking a photo
>>75458593I think this looks better? I may still have to align the eyes properly though
More doodles from work...>>75462210Oh fuck yeah. That's the good shit. Love the timing here: really clear with each action in a way that none of them overtake/overlap each other.>>75463397I think it's pretty cool, anon. I need to draw more in pen myself to just commit to that messiness--even when I draw with pencil, I feel this sense of making sure it looks clean, rather than just letting it exist as a rough sketch.>>75464462Perfectionism is awesome when it lets you spot out little details to elevate just a bit higher, but it sucks when it paralyzes you from moving forward.>>75465634I feel that anon--there's a certain sense of candid-ness I want to do more with my works, be it animation or stills, of just capturing my OCs existing, porny or not. I want them to feel like living beings with their own lives that can live on without worries of the camera (or the canvas).
>>75466026Yes I'd like to achieve that, I'd like to be able to produce images that get people questioning what my characters will do on a day to day basis without making it too boring for the audience. I feel like something is going to have to give and I'm gonna have to bite a bullet somewhere.I don't know if this is a "I don't understand" issue or my desires getting in the way of themselves. My desire to be exciting getting in the way of my desire to do mundane things might be highly antithetical in this situation
>draw something for the first time>it's shit>feel back>remember that Jackie Chan "thousand kicks" quote>feel good
Sketch to close out the night.Honestly, after some reassessment, I feel really energized. I'm ready to go at it again.I also think this is just, the perfect face. God he's hot. I hope I can deliver on this art.
I always tell everyone to use refs (and you should, always), but then I don't, and then I get frustrate when I can't draw anything because I'm NOT using refs, and, surprise, I don't have infinite knowledge of shapes and the human body.How to stop being retarded??
Fuck your your all joggers
>>75462210That is awesome anon, I love the pacing of the movements, and she's very cute.
>>75462210Yo, Ghost in the Shell camo visor??????????????
>>75465634>I don't know how to solve it.One way would be to spice up the mundanity with a dash of the extraordinary. Set it in a fantasy/sci-fi setting and think about how magic/technology would alter the everyday activity. Or have extraordinary characters doing the mundane activity, probably in a way that's uniquely characteristic to them. Both are staples of sneaky expository worldbuilding for a reason. Do keep in mind the law of conservation of detail, however; getting too indulgent with incidental details of little-to-no relevance to the meat of the story/characters will quickly tire the audience out. Use your judgment, and when in doubt, get some opinions from friends, family, acquaintances and anyone else you can/dare to ask to be beta viewers/readers.>Like I'm trying to avoid that "Pornstar/porn magazine" vibe where it feels like everything serves the purpose of the camera.There's a comic that predates the official founding of the furry fandom by the name of "Omaha the Cat Dancer" that's a good example of how to incorporate explicit sex scenes into a soap opera-esque story. Might offer some insight into how to avoid that vibe, and is generally a good read on its own, to boot:https://e-hentai.org/g/91947/059ffc83b0/>>75466134>My desire to be exciting getting in the way of my desire to do mundane things might be highly antithetical in this situationIt is, but many things are a careful balancing act without clear answers as to the best way to do them. I will say, however, that giving the audience some breathing room in between the moments of excitement is becoming something of a lost art in this day and age and it would be wise to investigate it further if you intend to do any sort of long-form story.
Grayscaling/Color Grading?man i hate this part.there has to be a more fun way to do this.Gonna study this >>75471736 render style and see how it goes
>>75464462Get your hand back in the box, Shinji!
>>75462210slut!
>>75472433>Gonna study this render style and see how it goesIt's not much of one. How would one call it, ultra-minimalist/utilitarian? Shadows only really show on the environment and in dramatic situations on characters as a special effect. Not something you often see these days, since it's designed for the limitations of small-scale underground comix production/printing in the 70s, which are a largely moot point in this age of advanced cheap printing tech and ubiquitous internet access for digital distribution. Still, it does retain the advantage of being quick to produce on a technical level, but arguably, basic digital shading is about as quick once you know your way around the tools. It is a fairly unique look, however, so I can see why one might want to emulate some of the quirks.
>>75459424what kind of references do you look at?
how does one learn to color / render? is it just practice?
>>75476539It's basically figure drawing light/dark, but with muter colours, transitions and a mental note of ambient light/bleed. Samdoesart has some pretty simple to apply tutorials on pastel-like rendering. >is it just practiceEverything is practice. If we were born with knowledge, the point of life turns mute.
>>75471736>Set it in a fantasy/sci-fi setting and think about how magic/technologyI'm actively trying to avoid this, along with avoiding anything that actively makes the job easier. The issue suddenly becomes extremely easy to parse when there is an interesting set piece to pair along with the mundanity, so I automatically avoid it from being the solution. It's like sexuality being introduced into an image. Of course a girls big set of tits would make the image less mundane and more interesting to people. There is something inherently interesting within the picture now. My issue is that my world is relatively mundane, slice of life style Modern world stuff. At most it's gonna be comedy and interpersonal drama. Kinda like those Korean comics you see on Webtoons. You see one Romance Webtoon and you sorta get the vibe of it. Very Character driven.Also the image you posted is particularly what I want to avoid. Every image looks like it was reference from a playboy magazine, her gaze so focused on the camera, her poses and the scenario screams playboy bunny. Beyond that thought, any type of narrative will always make a situation easy.End othe day I'm trying to solve a very SFW problem. I can already do a lot of things the issue is a lot of those things have a very easy solution. It's easy to tell a joke, it's easy to show some tits, it's easy to be action packed. My brain is geared to think about how to do something sexually. I don't even need to think about it. But if you told me make an image of girls eating ice cream I'd be baffled on how to attack it. All these little snapshots of these characters provide information about their lives are a scene not being directly told and my brain doesn't know how to think to create them. If someone told me to draw a picture of two girls eating ice cream I would have just draw them standing straight up 3/4 angle in a void space. That's the extent of my brain.
>>75468523This might not sound very helpful, but just practice doing both. You will eventually internalize some shapes from drawing them, and then can take off the "training wheels" - and breing them back when you need to lock in
I'm still too tied to my habitual line style for a genuine emulation, but this definitely isn't a result worth complaining about.>>75475588>arguably, basic digital shading is about as quick once you know your way around the toolsI think the problem at this point is psychological; coloring just isn't fun for me, and I will always look for a shortcut or an alternative method that doesn't drive through the usual motions. The closest I've got was with digital watercolours, I even wasted 10$ on a Domestika online tutorial. Yet the preferred use of my time was to just not. And move on to another thing.
>>75476752>I'm actively trying to avoid this, along with avoiding anything that actively makes the job easier.I can respect that, but don't neglect the tools available to you even if you have a self-imposed limitation to work within. Even the easy route requires some practice to get right, so keep it in mind if the hard road proves a little too difficult to start with.>Every image looks like it was reference from a playboy magazine, her gaze so focused on the camera, her poses and the scenario screams playboy bunny.Well, context is that it's two girls (one of them being the girl in the magazine) reading and roasting a porn mag. It's just the example that immediately came to mind when I read your post.>Beyond that thought, any type of narrative will always make a situation easy.What I think you're missing here is that even when you don't intend to (directly) tell the audience the story behind the picture, you yourself need to know at least the broad strokes of it in order to imbue the picture with that je ne sais quoi of interesting mystery born from hinting at hidden greater contexts. You'll want to read up on symbology and environmental storytelling for a focused crash course, but knowing how to generally construct more conventional narratives will always be useful, too.>>75477148>I think the problem at this point is psychological; coloring just isn't fun for meI know what you mean, I've always been more of a linework man myself. Unfortunately, black & white drawings just don't catch the eye like colored pieces do, and competition for attention is fierce these days. One trick you could try is flat colors on a semi-shaded (with linework hatching and other such techniques) piece as that will liven things up at a relatively small increase in workload. Alternatively, if you've got or ever end up getting the dough for it, you could hire a dedicated colorist to handle that stuff like the professional comic houses do.
>>75477564>What I think you're missing here is that even when you don't intend to (directly) tell the audience the story behind the picture, you yourself need to know at least the broad strokes of it in order to imbue the picture with that je ne sais quoi You are right, I am missing that. I honestly didn't think about that aspect. I just assume that these pictures were just well pictures, no thought put into them. But your right the artist probably does have a whole thing your conceptualizing in their mind before taking out of fragment and depicting it. That' so really good shit you laid out for me anon. Thank you. I gotta remember just because I'm not saying anything I should still be thinking about narrative. If my narrative is weak then the situation will be weak too. I need to be sitting down and thinking about my character's day, how they interact with the world around them, what they do for fun and then pick out points that would be interesting in that routine.When utilizing that information I understand why it's hard to do this with my characters. Two of my main girls are both 4chan dwelling loser shut-ins their day's consist on being at home yelling at people on the internet or participating in their microniches. It's the boy they both find interest in that gets them to do anything else beyond sitting inside. My brain knows that those two nerds are boring as fuck so I probably really do need to have them all be doing things are a group to get the same energy.
>>75476883Not for me. I don't think not using references should be the goal. I speak with plenty of very established artists who still use references to form ideas or sketch/fix a pose, and one of the reasons shit gets so fucked up for me is I usually stop relying on references and try to do everything through construction/imagination.
Construction and sketch layer if wants to check them out
>>75475786Pictures of hot woman that I swear to God are all random because most of my folder is suspiciously made of Asian woman
>>75478682im not sure i see the construction. still really nice
>>75480096Nta but the entire left sketch is construction. It's just basic shapes and stuff to scaffold the final drawing.
Deltarune Chapter 3 Sex
Back-to-back Tobyposts, now we're talking. This one's a bit more sfw.
>>75481044On one hand, it is neat that Deltarune Chapter 3-4 is causing a new surge in artOn the other hand the internet is gonna be basically unusable and you WILL get spoiled + buried in a quagmire of Tobertson Vulpine content
>>75481101Also the freaks on Twitter are out in full force now too. I had a friend's friend who drew Susie and Noelle and she's getting spammed with the typical "but they're MINORS" posts. It's not even nsfw. Really fatherless behavior.I'm gonna draw Noelle naked to upset them.
>>75481044Nice cute Toriel
>>75478682I really like the energy of the expression here, but I think the cat? girl clinging to the back doesn't look right - her arm would have to bend a bit more to be able to be as short as it seems here
>>75481420Good call!I felt like something was wrong, thanks!She's a weasel btw
yeeeeeeeeeeeen>>75466026>>75469536thank you! I once made a grave error with too many things moving at once a couple years ago and I try to make sure that there is always synchronicity now with clear focus because of it lmao. I'm honestly so happy I'm back in animation, its my home>>75476539it comes from understanding how readable shapes form in real life and also how other artists have chosen to show those readable shapes. It's not easy but technique and understanding tends to come with practice and good observation/studying of light functions for rendering. I've come to really enjoy it myself>>75482044she can weasel on me any time
>>75482273Where's her yeen peen
It was a rain day today and I was outside taking a walk, so here is cat in the rain.One of these days I look up what a umbrella actually looks like. This was really fun to draw and I like the end result. Lol while drawing I was thinking to myself "4 fingers" and then I counted and my inner voice was right. Whew
i think i am bumping.
>>75484459Do you have one for cum?
ITS SO FUCKING HOT I CANNOT DRAW LIKE THIS
>>75485814That's what air conditioning is for, bud
As I said on the post, "one thing that's nice about having a repository of sketch doodles from work is that I am forced to do some SFW ideas (which means work I can actually show to people IRL)."Funny enough, the restriction that I can only do SFW stuff while at work helps me draw such ideas, forcing me to create visual interest without the sex appeal. It also makes me want to draw/animate the more porny stuff when I get back to the safety/comfort of home.>>75482273>I'm honestly so happy I'm back in animation, its my homeI feel the same way; it took me ages to find my groove, but I'm glad I can call myself an animator these days. I struggled a lot with failed online mentors, but climbing out of it all by myself makes the whole process that much more satisfying.
>>75485554Different anon but try some of these. I love the bottom left personally as its where I started with mine so it makes me nostalgic. I'm not a fan of the bottom middle as its more runny cake icing than cum and does not inspire joy.
>>75419376>>75419388I was sick and nauseous to the point where the idea of eating food made me feel like shit for a few days. Turned out, I was really dehydrated; I was drinking enough water but I needed more electrolytes.Now that that's sorted out, I can get back to working on this.
again
Have you guys ever drawn a picture of one of your donut steels and just gone back to look at it over and over because they're so goddamn cute
>>75485814Can you strip down to your boxers and have a fan running and pointing at you at all times? That's my go-to solution, but then, I live in a relatively cold climate to begin with. If that's not possible, you're probably lacking in privacy anyhow, so it might be a good idea to rent an office space/pod to work in, or go to a public library or a mall and find a quiet corner to work in, though that has a much higher likelihood of bystanders pestering you and being nosy about your drawings.>>75485873Not every apartment comes with an inbuilt AC unit (and many don't allow you to have one installed even on your own dime, either) and the freestanding ones are quite inconvenient with all the tubing you need to manually drag out of a window.>>75492555Guilty as charged. Hell, I even do it with generic characters whose expressions I've nailed real well.
>>75492555This is the best picture of Charlotte I've ever made, and I made it in like ten minutes, and to this day I've been unable to recapture the same kind of energy or figure out what makes it so good to me.So, yeah, I guess so.
>>75485814Draw swimsuits :)A thing I like to do when the heat is too much is make a towel wet and put it into the freezer for a few minutes and then wear it like a scarfStay strong anon
>>75492555Yes. Every time I draw her (>>75366936) I feel fuzzy inside. Getting commissions of her or seeing other people draw her gives me tenfold dopamine as well: it's one thing looking at your own art, but being able to appreciate your own OC from another artist is a whole other level.
>>75492555Not really, my only oc thus far is a literal dessert.A dessert which I'm not particularly fond of either, I just like how it looks and how it's made. And I haven't even drawn it more than like 3 times.
had to actually do a bunch of stuff at work last night so I didnt do as much as I normally want to do. Still have issues with the back at this angle, but ill figure it out soon. hopefully....
Today I have this odd experiment in mixed techniques. maybe it'll make more sense when I try to colour it after the weekend.>>75499113Yeah, backs are surprisingly hard; they're better done with references. Shoulders too. I sense something off even in pic related. aside from the eyeballed background perspective.Do model collections still exist? To practice with human references, those series of pictures with the same body type in different poses and angles with the same "outfit" seem perfect. I worry the modern porn culture killed the medium off a little.If so, that's next on my practice list too.
>>75499342>>75499342>Do model collections still exist?the only good thing /ic/ is good for are the threads with the big packs of specifically these actually.>>7587213not sure why it linked to some random post earlier, not entirely sure how to crosspost i guess
>>75499545i give up im just linking the whole thread>>>/ic/7587213
>>75452896i'm feeling extra today so i'll criticize engineering of this and propose an alternativepassengers being on the "airstrip" is questionableneeding to climb up the stairs is quesitonablebirds being at different distance from exit is questionablealso added some other safety features>>75462210when your cloak runs out but you know a trick how to not raise an alert
>>75499342Dog detective anon, what did you study for perspective? Any courses or videos you'd recommend? Particularly figure perspective. I fucking struggle HARD whenever I try to pose a figure on a scene.
>>75501311Check emThrowing in my 2 cents as well.The roof is set way too low so that means the birds further down have to walk quite the distance before taking off.The people on the hangar as you said being questionable could be fixed if that place was way bigger and only cargo crew was allowed to walk on the air strip.... Cat walk..... Bird walk!
>>75501866Check out justsketch.meI never bother to fully pose a mannequin, as I don't like to use them as a skeleton like it was probably intended. It doesn't work that great for me. Still it's a great reference tool for general limb location and foreshortening, so I use it for harder compositions.For simpler ones I go by force of habit, and for that I don't have any traditional learning method to suggest beyond beating your head against it like a caveman trying to carve a renaissance sculpture out of a granite boulder :/
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>Page 10>Bump limit reachedThis is it. This is the end. No more /dig/ging with the /dig/gers. Just a void where the our thread used to be.
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>>75504688You should repost this
>>75504745nahhhhh let's keep it a secret between us
>>75504853But what if E bane won't see it?
>>75504944If mothanon misses it, it'll just make it more special. A secret between us 3. Yes, I am including myself in this conversation.
>>75505007You are becoming a schizo?
>>75505061No, otherwise I'd probably be competent at art.I'm a different anon all together.
Page 11 it's so over :(
>>75505083aaaaa stop talking to yourself
I ain't heard no bell yet
>>75505083Ohh I see. Let me bro fist you :D welcome to our secret club. Here is the kot and the bnuy and you!
>>75505118Man, I miss brofisting my screen. Different times, man. Different times.
>>75505150The world used to be better and this site as well..
soooo, how has your day been anons?
>>75505198I showed a guy a drawing I made specifically for him. Have not posted it in here. He was seriously impressed and I was surprised because I'm more used to you guys who I can never impress
>>75505246Smoking a ciggi or residue lines?
>>75505231it's like lifting, you can probably impress a few dudes if they see you lifting more than 1pl8 but on the gym you're nothing but background noise
NEW BREAD WHEN
>>75505231we're just jealous >>75505257residue as always
>>75505269Haven't you heard the news? There is nothing beyond this. This is it. It's all there is and all there will ever be. We are in limbo, anon.
>>75505265Literally this. You guys know me. Most of you give me glance and move on... for now
>>75492555I still look back to a drawing from months ago and smile at it.
>>75505281Did you just make this?
scary motherfucka imma make them shit the bedimma make them shit the bedlaptop getting hot that shit might just shit the bed
>>75505313Cute :)
>>75505322maybe
>Activity spike while thread is on its last legAll me btw
>>75505198LongAnd I have an overnight trip to make still. I might post from a sketchbook
>>75505366Aww look she is smiling :D Also checked
if you want it bad enough, then you will get it by any meansblood, sweat, tears, dropped mud on my jeansserve a nickel bag to a fiendmy reality made outta dreamsyeah you gotta get up, stand up, wipe the tears from yo' eyeswhat's the point of livin if you never even try?you can't take nothin with you when you diedon't act like you dead when you aliveif you want it bad enough
>>75505375I don't remember maki-
>>75505420did candlejack pay you a vis-
>>75505420We're are half the thread now.you and me. We are like brothers...
i actually optimize these too
Ahh damn I would have had one last bad drawing ready today so I would have posted 3 in a row but I was my worst enemy once again. And today I learned what pillow shading was
