>>77396728
>either Isher's lying or her other half provides some serious healing factor
Good points and I honestly can't tell which. I mean she's clearly tough as fuck and also those deep cuts aren't even bleeding THAT much, so it could very well actually be nothing. But I can't decide if the way she's talking is suspicious or not. It'd be just like Isher to try to come up with some excuse of
>oh, you see, it's uh... it's not actually a big deal! I've had worse, totally, yeah plenty of times even! h-haha :)))
just to get the attention off of her and get everyone to focus on the important things. Like finding Yannit. Given that we know she doesn't normally think of herself and her own wellbeing as all that important.

>scar tissue
She's got some kind of half-scaled/plated skin, we really don't know whether scars would even be visible on it. She may well have scar-less healing skin without any other particular toughness, and might still require medical attention otherwise.

>>77397809
I just realized someone modified the OP last thread

Previous threads:
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/subject/placers/type/op/

>>77397993
>She's got some kind of half-scaled/plated skin, we really don't know whether scars would even be visible on it
Right, forgot most reptiles don't show scars very clearly when they've healed. Guess it's largely due to their regenerative capabilities in general rather than any specific quirk of scaled skin, though.
...Hmm, does that mean Isher molts?

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>>77397993
Did she have any scars on her?

>>77398601
If we take anything from the non-canon stuff, then maybe if the wound it deep enough it may leave a scar.

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hey oopg, very nsfw but also sfw ying

>>77400588
Ying's gonna go boom.

>>77397809
>100+ years since the Baxxid awakening
feels sooner than I thought, 100 years is not a long time, especially for culture (like developing a fear response for a predator) to eradicate.

Maybe the Indrel Hivemother is VERY old

>>77400911
IIRC we know the baxxid invasion of valsalia happened... 100-something years ago? I forgot. Less than 200.
Though that invasion is described as the moment when they settled for living peacefully under the teeth, but it's not clear if that is the moment they "awakened" - they did seem to be coherent enough already to be able to negotiate a peace agreement. Baxxids are a pretty big mystery.

>Maybe the Indrel Hivemother is VERY old
Based on Yannit's memories of indoctrination, it's entirely possible that they just never updated their practices. Indrel hives seem pretty insular, so just the fact alone that no baxxid attacks have happened for ~100 years may have simply not been a good enough reason to change the "predator smell" lessons.

>>77400911
Virtually everything spoken of in the comic has happened in the past 150 years for them

>>77397993
Currently all signs (both in comic and out) point to isher being treated horribly as a child so I'm inclined to believe her.

>>77400588
i have trouble believing yinglet pulled the pin by themselves

>>77397993
I get the sense that the tribe that supplied the other half of her DNA probably drove her away violently once they discovered her existence.

>>77401352
Oh definitely, but it cuts both ways, given her self-esteem issues.
But occam's razor probably suggest she's genuine, yeah.

>>77402641
Hasn't that been explicitly confirmed? At least I feel like this has been stated before but I can't remember where/when.

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>>77399365
Canon.

>>77397809
oh yeah, Isher definitely got treated like shit as a kid

>>77398050
An improvement, no?

>>77403026
perhaps having both a link to the previous thread and the search link is good

>>77403026
No, not at all.

>>77403599
The search link would give the previous thread first no matter when it is opened.

>>77403026
>>77403643
I do like having a direct link to the previous thread, it's what I use most often and it's what basically every other general does. The search link is also fine though.
However I don't really like the search being all-boards, I don't care about what's posted on /co/ personally.

>>77403643
You don't like zhreads? :c

>>77404098
That's not the part I take issue with.

>>77403898
Laziness is the bigger issue since if you're posting the previous thread link in the OP, that's going to get copied to irrelevancy like it did this time.

>>77404240
Every general on the entire website is capable of managing this so I think it's just a temporary problem. If everyone is used to just copy-pasting the entire OP with absolutely zero (0) effort, then yeah they'll accidentally copy-paste the previous thread, but I'm pretty sure it only happened because the OP was used to being able to copy-paste and didn't expect to have to change the link.

So I'm a proponent of having both. But if everyone is used to just having the search link then I don't really mind, it doesn't ultimately matter all that much (but again I'd make it a /trash/ search rather than global)

>>77404706
Just add both. It's not like we have a crazy thick OP already. By general standards ours is tiny

>>77397809
That's.. Not really a good thing Isher. I mean, it's kind of technically good in a scrap. But it's bad and sad for you in the bigger picture. And I love cute, handheld, low comprehension data source Lopin.
Also; I want to kiss Kal's boo-boos and tell him that he did his best. And then learn more about baxxid bodies with Kass.

>>77397809
I love cute squad leader Kass

>>77397809
>tfw Kal's gonna have to go back home to get the baxxid equivalent of a haircut
>..and have to explain to everyone why he has yet AGAIN found himself in a violent situation that the community will surely assume he's at fault for

>>77400911
>Maybe the Indrel Hivemother is VERY old
>>77401072
>that no baxxid attacks have happened for ~100 years may have simply not been a good enough reason to change the "predator smell" lessons.

1. Maybe not all Baxxid have the same impulse to migrate to The Teeth, there could be some who are still in the wilderness and are wild and would remain in that territory. (Vislet's flashback of her life had shown truly primitive humans)
2. Maybe different groups of Baxxid have different migration routes and timings, and one of these routes involve the mountains and is still "actively" happening at incredibly long intervals.
3. Maybe the human-operated caravan's Baxxid guards who pass through the mountains are trouble makers who harass or serial murderers who kill Indrel, because of their own (now culturally despised) hunter instinct.

4. The Indrel suffering any attacks by "Baxxid" are actually victims of a psychological operation being performed by some other intelligent species (humans or yinglets or someone else... maybe even other Indrel!) to influence for resources or to cull the nearby Indrel population without suffering direct consequence. (displacing any hostility onto the actually absent/rare Baxxid)
So potentially, the reaction of a direct violent hostility is actually very recent, as prior to the psi-op the response could've been more flight oriented than fight oriented.

>>77406975
>..and have to explain to everyone why he has yet AGAIN found himself in a violent situation that the community will surely assume he's at fault for
Isher and Lopin are witnesses, they could absolutely account for his behavior in the situation.
The only question is if anyone would bother to think of asking the witnesses of the event, before passing final judgement.

>>77408665
Bees and bugs having collective responses agains predators seems perfectly natural, so I don't really see a reason to question that instinct as being a psyop. And I certainly don't see a hive of bug creatures having a flight response - in a eusocial species, it's perfectly normal to sacrifice yourself for the protection of the hive without a second thought.

>>77408665
More likely 5. Putting indrel in the stinky cave and torturing them is a tradition passed down from hivemother to daughter so why change?

>>77408752
The only opinions in baxxid society that truly matter (from a consequences stand point) are the council of elders, who already know Kal's true character.
The social stigma has already set in with Kal looking to move out of the burrows to either be away from it or to remove the compulsion for his peers to gossip about him when he slithers by.

>>77397809
Goddamit I already felt a desperate need to comfort hug Isher and now that need has only increased.

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Tangentially related but; I'm listening to that Val interview while drawing, and all the 'Don't wait until you think you can do it all perfectly, just start and just doing it is the thing that will make you get better.' stuff is hitting me right on the mark. Just like all the other times I hear it and have a hard time taking it to heart.
Still, every little nudge helps! I get the feeling that problem is basically a universal problem for almost all people who do creative stuff.

>>77413334
Well here's a bump to keep you motivated.

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Goodnight everyone.
And good luck with how fast /trash/ is now.

>>77397993
>those deep cuts aren't even bleeding THAT muc
Adrenaline can slow or even prevent bleeding for a short time.

They really should have put some kind of boots over Yannit's crunching arms or shackled them together or something since they knew there was a good chance she would go apeshit without warning. It's not like she needed both pairs of arms.

>>77420250
Isher should wear sheaths over her sword thumbs when doing things other than stabbing.

>>77421241
I'm surprised she doesn't have something like a decorative sheaths for when she's off duty and I'm sure if you mentioned that to her she would jump at the idea.
Would probably give you a big hug for it.

>>77420250
Doubt leather would fare much better than the calcium rock and baxxid bone she casually crumbled like cookies.

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>>77422908
That's wild seeing yinglet art from this artist and not seeing a bunch of scat

>>77422929
Kass should really get his merchant brain working again and make it happen.

>>77422949
A couple of wraps of electrical tape will hold an alligator's jaw shut because the opening muscles are much weaker than the closing muscles. The same could be true of bug claws.

>>77413334
>I get the feeling that problem is basically a universal problem for almost all people who do creative stuff.
I'm a creative with terrible work ethic, can confirm. I dabble in a bunch of things, drawing, painting, sculpting (both IRL and 3D modelling) and writing, and while my brain knows the only way to improve is to just do it, I find it difficult to summon up the motivation on most days. Part of it is IRL obligations getting in the way, the other part is that entertainment is much easier to engage with and I can trick myself into believing I'm watching/reading/playing for inspiration.
Funnily enough, the thing that really separates the men form the boys and the amateurs from the professionals isn't talent (that being a capacity to learn faster than your peers) but sheer dogged determination to get your hands dirty. Art is a contact sport, you learn it best by getting stuck in.

>>77426275

John Byrne have always have some assholish tendencies and did turn into a extra cranky old man in his early fifties. But a lot of his attitude and behavior is based in the fact that he is just baffled that other artists cant pump out an entire comic in a weekend or so.

Apparently he have always been able to work at a insane tempo and so thinks that people that use a month or more to make a comic are just plain lazy.

>>77428891
Well, it helps that when John Byrne cranks out a 16 page comic in a weekend, all his faces look the same and there are no backgrounds in most of the panels.

>>77429377
Well, when you're that efficient, some corners need to be cut.

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>>77430110
sex, nice one

>>77430110
>entwine-holding her foot
Oh my gosh!
Now that's where the heart-boner action is at!

>>77430110
I wonder how Indrel colonies breed. Can drone females even copulate?

>>77433665
As I understand it, they can copulate, they just can't bear children/lay eggs/breed/whatever.
Perhaps, like humans, they may engage in reproductive behavior as a form of recreation?

>>77429956
Heh. Fair point. There are a couple of webcomics left from that really early 2000s bunch of comics that are still going. El Goonish Shive and Questionable Content come to mind. Both started 2003-ish and are still going because whatever faults or positive attributes their respective artists may or may not have, they've had an Iron Clad Work Ethic of publishing a new comic three days a week for the last 22 years with the occasional break.

>>77433898
“Sluggy Freelance” is 28 years old now, though I don’t really follow it anymore and I think Pete lost the plot a while back.

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>>77415171
I went to be before making it much further, and today was a bad day for motivation. So no more progress, only excuses.

I instead finished up this simple, silly remix of that one "waking up with a ying in your bed" picture.

When are those Kass keychains going to ship?

>>77433665
The workers atleast have genitals although they are less developed than a queens. Like more complicated eusocial creatures are more likely sexually suppressed by the presence of a queens pheromones rather than born sterile.

>>77433842
if they do it'd be with each other. A worker wasting a drones seed would be bad for the colony.

>>77434750
Handy for bumping future threads right after waking up.

>>77434703
I have no idea what's happening in Questionable Content. I mostly dropped it when Dora and Marten broke up. I kinda looked in on it from time to time for awhile. Faye has a robot girlfriend now, I think? Meanwhile over at EGS the kids are all seniors and are about to graduate high school. Which means that in the last 22 years about 18 months have passed. Which includes a six month time skip.

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>>77430110

>>77437393
The most I know about QC is that the guy who makes it once stabbed his own hand on purpose and posted photos of it to quell his fanbase over being mad about something he put in the comic.
And I only know about that because it became a meme that spiraled into a different webcomic that /co/ made called Handy Jay's where the waitresses jack off the customers.

And I'm off to bed now.

>>77437886
lol wtf
I used to follow QC back in college and shortly after, but I lost interest and I can't remember why. I might have to delve into that to catch up to the happenings

>>77437886
Oh yeah. The Stabbening. He drew the nerdy shut in girl in a bikini and she was pretty hot. Tumbler was REALLY mad he didn't draw her as fat even though he had always drawn her as skinny. Her thing wasn't being fat. She was just a slob who never showered or cleaned her room. It's been years since I thought about this.

>>77439562
Forgot to mention that was why he stabbed himself, apparently.

>>77437393

In Twokinds Flora have been two months pregnant the last eigtheen years, so i guess anyone that wants to see the end of that story needs to invest in a time machine.

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>>77437651
>all those eggs getting completely bathed.
Ooh, man.
Shooting your seed into the baby making facilities of a wholly incompatible creature is very erotic, even when you know nothing will come from it.

>>77443208
cutey

>>77439441
>>77439562
It's been what? 9 years since then?
There is nothing worth looking into with QC.

>>77444238
I want to say it was mid 2012, so almost 13 years. It was never great, but was kinda fun a was genuinely funny. At it's best, Dora and Marten were the mostly sane stable core couple all the craziness revolved around. When Jeph split them up, all the random shenanigans, like a Shaoulin Kung Fu battle somehow ending up in Dora's coffee shop just stopped. I did hang in for a little while, hoping they'd make up and get back together. I gave up when they had the "just be friends" conversation.

>>77445739
2014 by the looks of it.
We were both off the mark.

>>77423192
I choose to not look into this.

>>77437651
I believe we've seenn what happens when indrell claws clamp down. I fear for the wellbeing of that man's hand.

The auxiliary eyes rolling up is a nice touch.

>>77454948
That's not one of the clamping claws.

>>77455186
Didn't even the feet claws crack the walls when she got the bad news about Elim when talking with the twins?

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>>77457043
It does not appear so

>>77460530
It's subtle, but it does look like there are some cracks around the feet in the second panel.
Or maybe those are scrape lines?

Anyway, goodnight.

>>77454948
bug fuggers are just built different

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Damn, this thread is just dead right now.

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>>77467463
Everyone is just waiting on the next page.

>>77469244
It's only been 3 days. You think Val's doing the end of the month crunch again?

>>77437651
wait I thought that was her butthole? If that's her egghole then what the hell is the hole between her legs??

>>77471302
Anon. Eggs are stored in the abdomen

>>77471302
Reproductive organ is in the abdomen. Between the legs is for waste products.

I wanted to start more discussion to fill in the bumps but I'm too tired, sorry lads
I kind of wonder how far into the comic we are, based on Val's total story plans, percentage-wise

>>77475386
2%

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Val's streaming.

https://picarto.tv/ValSalia

Looks like end of the month crunch is on.

>>77475386
I find it hard to guess, since we are technically still in the starting blocks, and the gang just now became The Whole Gang.
It depends on how quickly their main problem is going to appear and then have things go to hell.
Maybe rocks fall and they total party wipe on their very first diplomatic outing!

>>77407943
Anthro yinglets look surprisingly natural.

>>77473382
So her real butthole is where the vagina would be on a human then? Strange

OK, goodnight.

>>77476238
>250 more years till it's done

>>77483676
and elim will still be in bed

>>77483736
he's just like me fr

>>77470479
Probably. At this point he still has three more days, give or take.

>>77478238
Well, we got a lore drop about Yinglet caravans and that a female named Zeska left the Enclave to become a bandit and "prey on travelers." And Kass is about to be at the Enclave for an extended period.

>>77485229
It's confirmed that he is with how far into drawing the next page he was last night.

>>77486036
>Zeska left the enclave
>to prey on travelers
>Kass will be going to the Enclave
>which is where Zeska no longer is (since she left)
>and where Kass will be staying (the opposite of travelling)
He'll be fine

>>77488689
Still, it does mean she's likely going to be a plot point sooner or later. I imagine we're gonna eventually learn more about her in the enclave as Kass gets briefed on the goings-on and does a bit of his own digging.

>>77435569
True, so a partner with male genitalia would be a rare and exotic treat for them.

>>77488689
I was thinking more along the lines of a caravan that has been hit by Zeska's raiders shows up about the time Kassen arrives for an extended Diplomatic stay in the Enclave.

>>77489350
I'm wondering if we're going to find out there's a whole population of Yinglets pretty much outside of the Elder's control.

10

>>77492511
the pose looks like she should have a diaper

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>Contingencies

>>77503828
Blood splatter is missing again.

>>77503828
Secret text is
>consequential

Kass is learning a lot of hard leadership lessons today.

>>77504174
I'm sure Val will swear loudly like stubbing a toe and fix it eventually.

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>Trademaster has a merchant killed for potentially endangering citizens
>Ran intentionally endangers citizens to maintain the Trademasters image
I don't know Ran, that seems like Viracroix might get out the debating sheet for that one.

>>77505070
>Sell off excess grain for public infrastructure funding the rich bitch in charge wont finance himself
>get killed for it
>Willfully endanger personnel and citizens by effectively torturing a member of another species for propaganda
>rich bitch in charge gives infinidollars and resources

>>77505153
Doesn't make any sense. Viracroix's decision making is clearly utilitarian and based on this interaction he does as he says, treats the citizenry better than everyone else. We got basically an aside where he explains his motivations. He confirms that Omarhan does not have the populace in mind when making decisions, then immediately kills him. The bloodthirsty reputation is how he keeps this kind of corruption out of his business practices, and when that fails, he gets out the debate sheet.
However, depending on how long it takes to find and contain Yannit, it may be an almost equally good bet that guards can solve the issue before any citizens are involved, avoiding any bad publicity. If the search becomes more than an hour then I think this decision is counter to the character development we've seen for the trademaster, who would more likely warn the populace at least to report sightings.
The only way a coverup makes sense here is if he believes the interspecies harmony is one of those "for the greater good" things that require some 'little' white lies. At least some of the population is aware Indrel do this, and a second occurrence wouldn't create much gossip if nobody was harmed by the bug. The only harm it would do is to the public perception of the Indrel which I can't imaging Viracroix cares THAT much about.
I think this is more Ran is trying to make Viracroix happy but accidentally monkey's pawing it.

I hope they don't poor Yannit and they can overcome her child tortured programing so her and Kal can behind lovers

>>77505897
>Rich bitch says he treats his subjects better than anyone else, wants good diplomatic relations with other countries and species
>Average citizen lives in adobe hovels with barely any form of infrastructure or amenities.
>Engages in sadistic theatrical executions of rival powerful families attempting to build infrastructure and establish diplomatic relationships with other houses using excess food that would rot anyway
>Gives infinite funding and near complete autonomy to an incredibly irresponsible deranged scholar who regularly puts the lives of his personnel and the security of his castle at risk with his experiments and shady connections. Said irresponsibility has led to a member of another species running around in a violent mania potentially sullying said species reputation and putting multiple lives at risk
>Entire family is a puppet of the tunnel dwelling baxxid going bake generations, making the human citizens second possibly third class citizens if you consider the elite merchant families
>Regularly deputizes said baxxid without any form of training leading to cases of police brutality that are swiftly swept under the rug
>Law is generally kept by refugee mercenary soldiers/functionaries given power and preferential treatment over the citizenry making them fourth class citizens
>Allows his city to become what is effectively a refuge for the criminal runoff of the local yinglet enclave. Said population regularly engage in violent acts of assault and thievery even against house officials.
>Later gives said yinglets and all others citizenship in spite of the social damage they do, effectively criminalizing his peoples attempt at defending themselves. Turning them into fifth class citizens
Valsalia is a few technological breakthroughs from a complete dystopia and I find that very funny.

>>77503828
Last:panel:
Kass realizes just how deep he is in this mess.

>>77505897
Someone pointed out in the /co/ thread that this is more about public embarrassment than anything else. He's happily putting people at risk to preserve his reputation here. On a related note this isn't the first time he's done this. Val revealed awhile back that the indrel field guide is actually a lie. The first indrel to go crazy in town didn't just injure people, she ripped off and ate their heads.

>>77508481
true honestly

>>77508481
kek
living up to the merchant stereotype

I was right. He did yell like he stubbed his toe.

The page has been updated to include the blood splatter now.

>>77509574
I'm a fucking retard I scrolled back up to >>77503828 to see it

>>77503828
Viracroix once again showing himself to approach the whole 'human and nonhuman coexistence' dream by mainly using his "I kinda just wanted to see what would happen" method.
Also Lopin super cute in all his panels! I wish there was a hi-res page on the patreon page so I could crop a pic of his cute face!

>>77508481
Based creature coveter man.

>>77509614
Imagine an "ojousama" yinglet laughing.

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>>77503828

>>77511512
There might be another version for the typo in circumstances later.

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>>77507743
Nothing can help you, you're defending the guy who said "My value in comparison to the lower classes."
>HE WAS JUST ATTEMTPING TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE
Suuuuure, with comments like that, I guarantee he was going to help out the citizens. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA suuuuuuuurrrrreeeee. You want just enough anarchy where all these narcissistic parasites get to do whatever they want like sell all the surplus food so the peasants can starve "just a little."
We have been given evidence that he invests in the citizens. 90% of your greentext is not even tangentially related to what we've seen in the comic so far. Go ahead, move those goalposts, I can't wait till you say "Not good enough" as if the physical evidence of benevolence by Viracroix is somehow outweighed by your belief he MUST BE le ebil man in power.
>sadistic theatrical executions
He could have done it publicly, announcing how this deranged man attempted to weaken the great city by selling off food meant to ensure the welfare of the people. He could easily farm reputation from these events in the comic, instead he had him killed in private, unaware that he was about to die until he was killed in a single swing without making any noise.
The definition of sadistic: Quick and painless. Lmao.

If the trademaster is supposed to be a moustache twirling villain he sure isn't depicted that way in the comic so far.

>>77509041
Did they invite the first psycho indrel into the town too? The field guide says it wandered in and eventually freaked out. The random happenstance of the world is not the fault of the trademaster, people would blame the indrel for it, changing the field guide only helps public sentiment regarding the bugs, it doesn't cover for some failing of the government. This instance might reflect poorly on the trademaster because Yannit was more formally made into a citizen, with clothing made for her, identifying her as a member of the group. (Which she ripped off before being thrown out of the window.)

>>77508217
On some level that has to be somewhat reassuring for Kass. She's being included in high level decision making.

cum

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>>77509574
>I was right. He did yell like he stubbed his toe.
You weren't kidding

>>77513084
Dont pretend Viracroix doesnt also believe the exact same thing when the entire story and Val Salian society is built off exactly that.
>But he teaches his mercenaries how to read
how noble of him
Yes he should have done it publicly holding his own power and the accused in front of the citizenry. But he didnt because either he knew it was unjustifiable in the eyes of the public. Just as well it was established Viracroix feels absolutely zero compunction to help or justify himself to the human majority of his city. His only concern was that a human not helpful to his utopian plans stepped outside of his frankly ridiculous regulations for whatever reason. So he had them kidnapped, black bagged, and threw them into a dark room where he then proceed to do the diplomatic version of the paul allen death scene from american psycho.

>>77503828 (incorrectly bloodless)
>>77511512 (correctly bloodied)
The question remains: Will they actually capture Yannit or will they just be forced to kill her...

>>77505897
>Viracroix's decision making is clearly utilitarian

The problem with utilitarian mindsets is that it's difficult to discern the source of that mindset:
Do they actually genuinely care and look far ahead into the future, and take the path that's surest to be positive for the most people? Or are they actually just psychopaths making up glib bullshit answers to do what they want?

>Ran is trying to make Viracroix happy but accidentally monkey's pawing it.
Ran is a very smart person in his area of expertise, but like all smart people, there are things that they can be a complete dumbass in.
Working for someone who might be a psychopathic "i do things to see if i can do them" person might be something Ran is genuinely blind to... Or Ran himself is psychotic in some way.
Which might be a funny inversion: The guy at the top is legitimately caring but all his subordinates are (borderline) criminally insane and have to be tard-wrangled.

> Scientists:
> No sense of right or wrong.

>>77517135
Hopefully next comic issue has a panel where Kass wipes his face with a rag

>>77397809
Tough gal

>>77517957
>The question remains: Will they actually capture Yannit or will they just be forced to kill her...
I don't think this is at all in question
>foreshadow indrels having trouble with going crazy outside of the hive
>have a PoV of yannit somehow figuring out how to accept friendship (and hair fondling) and continue staying sane even without pheromones
>have an entire mini-arc of Ran working to replicate various pheromone-like scents to improve communication
>generally build up Yannit as supporting character for dozens of pages
>hmmm nah syke she just goes crazy because of pheromones after all lmao and nobody can do anything and she gets killed off xd

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>>77517957
>Will they actually capture Yannit or will they just be forced to kill her
Dude spent plenty of time finding out which scents do what. They likely just gotta hit her with a scent bomb of chillax

Why do giant bees have head hair anyway

>>77519152
It has to grow from somewhere.

>>77517957
>>77512652
It's been updated again for the typo now.

>>77510745
Reeeeeeee

>>77520153
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>>77519152
>>77520153
I think Yannit has design inspirations from Predator

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>>77519152
Gotta have somewhere for pollen to stick!

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Yay! High resolution Lopin!

Do you think Ivenmoth spreads fake conspiracies about the house in the city to keep eyes and ears away from what they're really doing?

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>>77507743
>Later gives said yinglets and all others citizenship in spite of the social damage they do, effectively criminalizing his peoples attempt at defending themselves. Turning them into fifth class citizens

This is emphatically untrue.

>>77525555
Cute inb4, but when 99% of a group are hyper active methheads with no concept of personal space, property, damage, or impulse control; Kept in check only because they are two foot twenty something lbs on a good day. You get a situation where either almost no yinglet are given citizenship(something against the house masters stated and demonstrated interest) or TYB is decriminalized and any attempt at protecting yourself makes you the criminal.

>>77525555
>>77525700
To be fair he hasn't actually criminalized anything yet. Alls he's really done is put them in a position where they technically have the same rights a humans but the guard isn't going to come running because you chased a few off with a broom

>>77525930
Thats really the silver lining diplomats and representatives would have already had diplomatic immunity and privileges making the entire law redundant unless it was to be expanded to the general yinglet population.

>>77525555
Anon also invents the grain selling being for infrastructure out of thin air. And assumes most guards aren't citizens off nothing. And that all yinglets must compulsively break the law when we know there's things like house yinglets.

So, you know, typical /pol/acl schizo rant.

>>77525996
The implication is that before all this yinglets were literally seen as vermin in the eyes of the law. All hes really done so far is say you can't kill them indiscriminately or openly abuse them without cause. Given how cheap life and limb seem to be in this city you're still well within your rights to crack sone skulls if the scavs are actually acting up

>>77526373
Yeah, we all know he was being a fucking idiot making shit up that wasn't actually in the comic. There's been a lot of posts like that lately.
The guy who got murdered was selling the grain and pocketing the cash for himself at the cost of TRUST in the house to treat the populace better than any invaders might.

That whole situation was Viracroix giving him an opportunity to explain himself, but he blew it by devaluing the citizens. The fact that he wasn't just bagged and stabbed means the trademaster was still legitimately debating if he was to be killed or not up until that point.
Like maybe he was selling the grain surplus and using that money for something that would be useful, or more realistically maybe he'd come up with a lie about using that money for something useful and it'd be an actual good idea that he could be forced to carry out.

>>77526373
To be fair the only guards and officers we ever see are refugees from other conflicts. Maybe some random guards are Val Salians but that'd be an assumption not supported by the narrative.
Historically speaking its not that hard to imagine a merchant kingdoms forces being heavily populated by mercenaries.

>>77527085
But they literally are vermin even by yinglet standards, the enclave uses the city as its genetic garbage dump to send its most useless and criminal yinglets. The worst we've gotten from human on yinglet violence are kicks, anything beyond that you get swarmed.
If vira were serious about inter species cooperation then this would be addressed but he doesnt because he doesn't actually care about his people.

>>77529040
Are you assuming that most yinglets in the city are exiles? I don't think there's any reason to believe this to be the case. We do know that those who are exiled do generally come to live in the city, but I don't think there's that many exiled yinglets in general, and there's also no reason to believe non-exiled yinglets don't just come to the city en masse also.
As a concrete example, Lopin was trading in the city and was very explicitly not an exile at that point.
But also the majority of yings we see around seem to be pretty good-natured. Is there any reason to believe e.g. the bakery oracle is an exile? Or the random yings who fuck human men? I really don't think we've seen that many exiles.

>>77529509
I didnt say all of them were exiles. We dont know what results in being exiled in their society anyway but that doesnt change the fact the enclave breeds thousands of yinglets they cannot maintain so they send them to the city where they make themselves a nuisance. Our first introduction to yinglets including Loppin are them peddling trash, getting in fights, and stealing from humans who are obviously annoyed with their shit.
I dont get the impression that they are anything but stupid and chaotic some are nice some aren't. Ofcourse as the authors pet species we are meant to be more sympathetic to them but from a world building point of view theres no reason to take a non neutral position.

>>77529707
>I dont get the impression that they are anything but stupid and chaotic some are nice some aren't.
Same here, but I think the point of the law as the other anon said is simply presumption of innocence. It seems like before that law, a yinglet was legally considered no better than a rat, so if you wanted to kick its skull in for fun you could. The law basically says "yinglets are sentient creatures, guys, let's give them a chance to live amongus" and then explicitly calls out that they have to adhere to the same standards of law as everyone else.
So in other words, those that are nice get to enjoy probably not getting their skulls kicked in because they have citizen rights to some degree, while those who aren't basically waive this right and can still get their skulls kicked in. Like the thugs that tried to kidnap kass, when they got pulped by Elim there was literally ZERO mention of any scrutiny of Elim, everyone seemed to have an attitude of "yeah they were thugs so who cares about some pulped yinglets". Then Ran harvested their corpses for organs.

>>77529847
>"yeah they were thugs so who cares about some pulped yinglets".
Viracroix had the same opinion of the thief Kalgkur exploded.
>"This individual recently exploded a man. By accident. Thieving scum; no great loss, but the point still stands."
Yinglet or human, break the law and no one in Val Salia much cares if you get pulped, flung into a building or exploded. Aside from the optics, of course.

>>77528386
I'm not sure what counts as a Val Salian since it is a trade city and most people settled there for trade purposes, such as working for other trade houses not centrally located within the city.

>>77511512
Ran's character I don't dislike, but he sure is ducking responsibility here like a grade-A weapon-force cunt.

>>77533874
Well, he is a high level government offical.

>>77533874
>>77535721
Kass gets his first taste of true Bureaucracy and I'm sure he's gonna HATE IT

>>77536005
I feel like he already got that first taste when they took a spit sample in exchange for getting the other Dinland refugees better accommodations.

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From the Patreon

Here's how I always pictured Yannit as a human. She is essentially the human-obsessed bug equivalent of a human weeb who ran away from home to go live in Japan based on the idea of it she got purely from watching anime, with little to no realistic preparation.

>>77542082
disgustang

>>77542082
still would fug

>>77542082
Human Yannit's repelled by the scents of deodorant and shampoo.

Human Kal buys that Charcoal-smelling body wash

>>77544591
A stanky girl who herself is also into natural male musk? Literally my ideal woman!!

>>77542082
Yeah, but... what did she base her unrealistic worldview on? How much cultural contamination have Humans had on Indrel?

>>77548149
She told Kass and Elim that that she would talk to and listen to travelers.
She is also aware of storybooks and fairy tales, so someone must've read her some at some point. Or she learned how to read and read them herself like a hardcore weeb.

Well, goodnight.

>>77531775
Yeah, The law of the land has no love for thieves. Which makes sense honestly, given the leader is a merchant who would have an extra strong bias against thieves.

>>77551269
Only thing species traitor man loves more than money is baxxid cock in his ass

>>77533222
We have some explicit history that there is a large population of people who we are told had no government and that the house was (according to themselves) established more or less peacefully by cooperating with the baxxid who migrated en-mass to the area.

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>>77548149
>>77548205

>dragon, princesses and frog
Might these stories be the same ones from ancient earth, or did they come up with extremely similar ones on their own, parallel universe style?
We know this world has "not-rats" and "not-dogs" so they probably have not-frogs as well. And seeing their crazy fauna, it wouldn't surprise me if they actually have creatures they call "dragons" as well.
But did they then just insert these local creatures into the ancient, inherited word-of mouth earth stories, or are these actually different stories that grew out of this humanity's interaction with these animals, and they are just similar in themes as a joke to the reader?

>>77553079
Wow! Finally an aspect of a superhero that I can relate to!

>>77554162
>it wouldn't surprise me if they actually have creatures they call "dragons" as well.
Like Isher's dad

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hey oopg, more discord yings.

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and thats all

>>77554803
i like this one

>>77553127
That's not what we were told. The house already existed before the baxxid migrated brought them back to the teeth.
One of the old house leaders, in a drug induced haze, ordered an expedition be made of the teeth leading to them discovering it was hallow and thus House Ivanmoth suddenly occupied a larger percentage of the city than anyone else. Then they hung a banner at the top of the teeth and started calling the city Val Salia and after a few decades people accepted the name.

>>77554162
Humans have a tendency to re-use names for things that occupy the same ecological niche. It's why even giant bugs can be called dogs if no canines are present if they are behaving in a way that is similar enough to a domesticated dog.

>>77554764
Now I'm remembering Gremlins 2.

>>77554803
It's not going to be pretty when she gets her tail caught in all those moving gears.

>>77554764
>>77554803
great stuff as always, fuchs