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CYOA Refugee Thread - A thread for posting any and all CYOAs unpostable in /tg/'s /cyoag/ (and occasionally ones that aren't).

>Previous thread:
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78245213
>Alternative link:
https://archived.moe/trash/thread/78245213
>Other threads:
>>>/tg/cyoa

>/cyoag/'s CYOA archives and related resources:
https://rentry.co/cyoag
Includes - but is not limited to - a F.A.Q. section and the personal archives of a number of authors.
https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3
An extensive Allsync archive that has both SFW and NSFW CYOAs.
https://infaera.neocities.org/
Interactives list. If you're looking for a specific CYOA, it's suggested that you check those first.
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>>78286943
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>>78287015
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>>78287044
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Tentacle Realm galleries:

>Author's Google drive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17Md5_3haISkwIGpx70TI2UZyccOfrwEQ

>>78203808
Part 1 on imgchest:
https://imgchest.com/p/n87wmka9x4x

(Out of date) Parts 2, 3, 4:
https://imgchest.com/p/xny8lv2d4bl
https://imgchest.com/p/a846gw6v7xj
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>>78287091
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/77991419/#78024979
The Buried Aeon https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78164320/#78198396
Blasphemous Machine https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78121974/#78140652
S.A.R.A. https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78121974/#78131727
Kari (Theoretical) https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78203680/#78215387
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78121974/#78159904
Ideal of Humanity https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78245213/#78245851
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78245213/#78246148
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Its a maid waifu picker
https://literal-garbage-can-cyoa.neocities.org/CYOAs/LilianesMaids/
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>>78287099
Are these all purity builds? I guess the new update really inproved things for Panic! anons
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>>78287091
Surprised there is no Tentacle Angel combo considering how at least two deities are completly made out of tentacle flesh
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>>78287091
Parts 3 and 4 on the drive are empty, or am I extra retarded today?
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>>78288276
Why do you seek confirmation for something that is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES? Parts 3 and 4 on the drive are empty AND you are extra retarded today.
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>>78287091
>Half + half cost = free power
>Free + Free = extra points
What about Free + Halved cost?
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>>78287434
nah couple of corruption builds as well
just that purity got a few new tools so people wanted to try them out

but if you're going for power builds, corruption is probably still a fair bit stronger
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>>78288515
>What about Free + Halved cost?
just free
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>>78288324
Fair, but are part 3 and 4 meant to be empty?
also man this shit need a excel sheet
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>>78288717
Yes.
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>>78288717
Yes, Apotheosis is going to update the Part 3 folder in a few months so we might see new lore this year and probably some new monster related mechanics too (yes 3 before 2 since he said that part is the one the most close to a new version)
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>>78288717
>Fair, but are part 3 and 4 meant to be empty?
Apotheosis has not released the updated sections 2-4 yet. The imagechests for them are from the .7 version.

Supposedly the update will have premade companions, quests (including the various gods' champion missions), and more.
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>>78288515
Personally I used simple pattern recension and had Free + Half-off = extra 1/2(cost) points.
And in the case of Free + Half-off + Half-off = Free + Free = extra (cost) points. (This happened twice in my MIE super oversoul build, both times with Thaumaturgy interestingly enough.)
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>>78288677
Thanks, what about the debuff powers like Evil Eye? Do they only give bonus points if they give you repeats of the same debuff or does any instance of Eye or Touch powers count for the free points?
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>>78288837
Buy a ad
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>>78288879
There's just one problem with that line of reasoning: it'd actually make sense.
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>>78288883
i'd say only if they happen to grant the same debuff
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>>78288914
>Buy a ad
An ad for what?
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>>78289029
Yes, that's why just I did it instead of asking Apo for clarification. Apo has admitted alot of the times his WoG rulings are dumb and that he intentionally leaves wiggle room for interpretation. For best results, don't ask Apo if you are doing it right and he won't tell you you are doing it wrong most of the time.
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Remember, you will never be a girl :)
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>>78287091
Other than the Silent Moon, what deities are catching your eye? Deep Prophet and Truth Machine seem promising, although I will admit the Wisened Void has cooler art than the Deep Prophet. Could also see Wild Empress, Fair Queen, Starving Lord, or Bountiful Lady for the right build.
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Remember, you will never be a tentacle monster
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>>78289941
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>>78287099
>Kari (Theoretical) https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78203680/#78215387
Why is the Kari build "theoretical"?
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>>78290003
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>>78290022
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>>78289941
The Curious Oracle is cute. CUTE!
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>>78290003
Because the builder said it is.
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>>78289941
>Wisened Void
Me too, not only because of the art but also because I think his tenets kind of fit my personality the best
I like almost all of the new gods honestly but Charity Queen is tied with him as my favorite since she seems to be the main responsible for inviting us into the Tentacle Realm.
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>>78289941
the Averace King is a great route for getting lots of power when going down a morally evil route, as Consumption/Devour is potentially extremely strong, especially in an already strong build.
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>>78289941
I agree with >>78290058 , she is very cute and comf. I want to sleep in the tentacle embrace.

But also the Wicked Mother, parasites are fun and so are tentacle monsters. I'm torn in my build between trying to have agency and do magic stuff and just... Spending all my time meeting tentacle monsters, enjoying their squishy appendages and giving birth to their offspring.
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>>78287091
>>78289941
None! Destroy them all!
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>>78290138
The devour champion power also permanently gets rid of even the most stubborn creatures so no one will be able to ressurect or reborn if you eat them unless said person is a Multiplayer enemy with a Save Crystal since these things are the ultimate plot armor
Seriously, not only they are free and foolproof against all anti-immortal measures but also still revive you even if stolen by another player
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>>78290058
>>78290242
I like the implication that Oracle either loves All Star or just considers it a fitting punishment for those who let their Corruption points go too far in either direction
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>>78289941
I'm pretty leery of Wild Empress and Deep Prophet since they are part of the Old Gods block. Doubly so of Deep Prophet since Cruelty is part of his portfolio.
I like most of the New Gods because they all have pretty good vibes. Though personally Fair Queen, Devoted Maid and Doting Lover might not be fore me. I'm more of a justice and spirit of the law of the strict rules type. I also prefer lest strict and exacting expectations. And I'm not sure if Doting Lover approves of polyamory.
I'm curious about Truth Machine, though her previous title makes me balk a bit and want to know more before trusting her. Silent Moon is alright, though the "pray every day" bit is kinda cumbersome. I'm very much the type of person who's terrible at keeping up a daily routine.
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Thinking about some female body+personality modifications that are mutually exclusive but not necessarily exact opposites. Wanting some more ideas, here what I got so far for:
>Size: Loli(child size, generally upbeat, inquisitive but kinda stupid) OR Amazonian(8-10 feet tall, like to brawl, tend to be tomboyish)
>Dignity: Elf(tall and slender, aloof, creative) OR Goblin(shortstack, rude, parties all the time)
>Productive: Cow(huge milky knockers, motherly, calm) OR Vampire(sharp teeth, manipulative, loves any bodily fluid)
>Animal: Mammalian(Cat ears, Dog loyalty, heightened senses) OR Reptilian(Rough skin, either not moving or moving very fast, tends to be loner)
>Also ability to mix two with more additions. Vampire lolis are all brats, Amazon Goblins are Orcs, ect.
>Or double up on selection for bonus. Double Amazon is even bigger, Cows now additionally lay eggs, Mammalian turns full furry
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>>78290373
>that Oracle either loves All Star
Who? She aligns with The Wisened Void because they both love knowledge, she hates The Deep Prophet because he's similar to her but with the opposite moral philosophy, and The Doting Lover because he dumped her ass when she was The Blushing Mistress to get together with the unnamed human girl you see in his picture. She has no implied relationship with any of the 'Stars' in the CYOA like The Fair Queen or The Arrogant Star.
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>>78290535
Bimbo and NEET?
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>>78289941
The Wild Empress, the Goddess of Freedom, is probably the reason why the cyoa exists at all. Without her, you would probably be forced to be the slave of a God and have whatever they pick for you as your build. Therefor, she is the one I view most favorably among the Gods.
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https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78245213/#78259327
Not sure if it helps YOUR apotheosis but Part 2 there is also a option to grant some minor divinity to your Living Clothes, problem is that the description seem to imply this makes the outfit want to control you and I don't think that setting its Willpower to the lowest tier really helps to keep it under your control
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>>78290543
...All Star the song.

And where did you get this lore?
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>>78290543
You get one of her boons for free for beatboxing, and then if your corruption goes over 100 or under zero you are cursed with the song All Star by Smash Mouth.

I think she gives goofballs boons because she's nice, and likes that they're being themselves and having fun, and the All Star thing is unrelated. Although I like her, and I also think All Star is a good song, so maybe there's something there...
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>>78290601
>>78290629
>>78290642
Oh, from the first page? I don't think she opposes corruption or purity, she doesn't have any strong feelings on it from elsewhere in the CYOA, she probably just thinks what you did is funny and original. Bee yourself and all that, she likes it when you're yourself and not a dickhead about it, and you were very original there. Not like she'll be mad at you for being her 'paladin' or her corrupt little octopus hugger either though.
>Where did you get this lore?
Read the Patron page?
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>>78290123
>>Wisened Void
>Me too, not only because of the art but also because I think his tenets kind of fit my personality the best
Maybe when I was younger, but the older I get, the less I feel humbled before the universe. It is awesome, and glorious . . .and indifferent. Plus, I'm not wild about the stat shuffling in the boon - I put a lot of hours in at the gym to stop being "nought but skin and bones".

Doesn't mean I want to go to war with the Wisened Void or his (its?) followers, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmD2O8gkmes
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>>78290543
>The Doting Lover because he dumped her ass when she was The Blushing Mistress to get together with the unnamed human girl you see in his picture
Where did you find that tidbit?
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>>78290875
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>>78290882
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>>78290642
Good luck breaking the mold! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jWHffIx5E&list=RDL_jWHffIx5E&start_radio=1
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>>78289941
Prior to the addition of the Silent Moon I favored the Wisened Void. Even now his boons and the Unknowable champion power are quite appealing. The Deep Prophet should be a good match for me, but I don't really care for him, even if I think Revelation is possibly the coolest champion power. I kind of like what the Avarice King has going on, but I wouldn't really want to be his follower. Other than that I like the Truth Machine, and could seem myself praying to her and working with her followers even as a champion of the Silent Moon, but I don't think I would ever take her as patron. Lastly I do like the Bountiful Lady, and if I was to pick my patron based entirely on fetish reasons she is the one I would go for, and I do like her in general, but not quite enough.
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>>78291058
Revelation has the really cool combo of pairing it with the Secrecy Vow for a fraction of a god's power. He even gives you 400 points for doing so.
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I need maid cyoas to distract me from mu hurt feet please
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>>78287417
It’s pretty high quality for a waifu picker with a lot of options. I’m annoyed by how little the images match up with the actual maids’ portraits, although I dislike all the obvious workarounds even more (AI, using established franchise characters).
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>>78292477
Well my tentacle realm character is such a freak of nature only ai is my option seeing as no artist only drew a heavenly albino 8-armed muscular futa alien yet... and I don't have the equipment to draw and scan it myself either
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>>78292607
Yeah but that’s a build and not a CYOA so I excuse it
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>>78292744
>so I excuse it
lol, lmao even
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>>78292744
Look guys, its the CEO of cyoar
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>>78289941
Bountiful lady only, nobody else ever
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>>78290242
Keaton anon? Do you have a build yet?
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>>78287091
>build is off by only -5 points
okay I'll take one curse that isn't so bad
>now have 220 more points to use
I won't say no to more points but where the hell am I gonna use these
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>>78287091
Shit is so long I can't find which Power/Mutation lets me control my fertility, is this possible anywhere in the cyoa? Which page?
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>>78293663
nevermind I'm stupid because I'm making the build in two places (personal archive and an image build) and didn't transfer everything over before calculating points
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Any apps to do image builds on a Android phone?
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>>78287091
>spend two days crafting a Mad Queen build exploiting the fact that Perpetual Effect can make me permanently insane and dissociated from reality
>finally lean back satisfied
>reread Perpetual Effect
>it can't inflict mental statuses
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>>78293727
Sartre it.
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>>78293727
you can perpetual effect DoT and special negative effects, so you can get [frenzy] and/or [x seal] for sanity
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>>78289941
Avarice King, Wicked Mother, and Mad Queen purely for powers to steal as a nephilim. By tenets only, probably Waiting Judge or Wild Empress.
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>>78293687
You have to go to Magic Seals, Fertility/Virility Seal. There used to be a combination mutation that did it, but it seems to have been replaced.
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>>78293687
this >>78293904
there's also fertility/virility control in the combination mutations
or if you have a method/power to give status effects like hostile touch, you could choose [barren] and just make yourself and others infertile whenever
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>>78293687
>>78293904
Oh I found the mutation, second page of combination mutations, page 16, number 39
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>>78293687
Is there one that let's you control it? There's some static upward or downward adjustments but I can't remember a fertility control option.
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>>78294141
>>78294059

Oh, I stand corrected.
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>>78293850
That'd work! Thanks, anon.
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>>78292377
thre're maids in'is'un
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>>78287015
>>78287044
How are we supposed to decide who we interact with on these two pages?
It doesn't seem clear.
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>>78290123
gratitude towards your benefactor is nice
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>>78292377
maid feet cyoa
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>>78292377
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>>78295152
Isn't that a simplified/cut down/old version of a CYOA on lighter background we see from time to time?
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>>78295295
It's in the rules text for the list of rulers on the first page.

First, pick how you intend to interact with each ruler using those rules. Then go through the realms and pick the appropriate interaction for each Rebel or Loyal subject, or choose not to interact at all with them. Then pick whatever interaction you want with the neutrals.
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>>78296334
Sort of. There's also at least three more 'sequel' pages with additional choices. Like, sequential DLCs, basically.

I'm phone posting so I don't have them on hand, but I know it's ultimately way longer than that one page.
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>>78296375
Ah, thanks for confirmation.
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>>78287091
So is there a way to do a permanent amputee build? I only went over it lightly and the closest thing seems to be Detachable Limbs which isn't really what I'm looking for.
Also is there not any race that has a bonus to bountiful bust?
>>78289941
The Doting Lover because I kind of want to become a Houri for her, so I can then take the sacrifice vow. Kind of hilarious that's even an option and it gives so many points. Just abandoning my lover effectively.
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>>78296420
>for her
The Doting Lover is a male, he's the little tentacle thing in the picture. The girl is just his wife, who is a powerless human he fell in love with.
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>>78293602
How frightening that you can spot me. No, I have a txt with a pile of options I like, that's maybe 60% of the way through part 1. The point totals aren't added up, spreadsheets are pounding on my door and I am pretending not to be home.

Also I'll definitely need to do at least the living clothes from 0.7, since I think they'll be tightly integrated with my build.
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>>78296450
Surely he pumped that girl full of divine power to level 400 at least.
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>>78296529
I wouldn't count on that, personally. He seems pretty 'know and stay in your place,' and making his slave lover super powerful doesn't really mesh with that. Level 100 and divine immortality, maybe, but I don't think he pumped her all the way up to archangel standards. What would be the point?
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>>78296420
>So is there a way to do a permanent amputee build? I only went over it lightly and the closest thing seems to be Detachable Limbs which isn't really what I'm looking for.
Deprivation page 12. The first part is about senses, but if you keep reading it also does limbs.
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>>78296591
Wait, no, that's strict master, I'm an idiot. Carry on.
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>>78296591
>Level 100 and divine immortality, maybe, but I don't think he pumped her all the way up to archangel standards. What would be the point?
400 levels invested exclusively into wife skills.
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Why does the Strict Master align with the Curious Oracle? Pretty much every other alignment seems intuitive to me, but why does the Old God of Slavery and Absolute Authority like the New Goddess of Nap Time and Being Yourself?
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>>78296759
he wants people to accept their natural selves as well, he just has a strict dominant/submissive dichotomy but that still does align him with curious oracle in that he wants people to be true to themselves
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>>78296759
I'm guessing he just likes her because she's the enemy of The Doting Lover (the only two New Gods who are in direct conflict,) who is The Strict Master's ideological opposite/counterpart.
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>>78296759
knowing your place, and everyone loves a good nap, even gods
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>>78296759
>Follow your passion and chase your fantasies
Strict Master is the god of masters AND slaves. He thinks everyone is one or the other, but he doesn't judge them for being either as long as they pursue their true nature. The curious oracle also just wants everyone to be true to themselves, and although she doesn't pre-suppose that everyone fits into a master or slave box beforehand the worldviews aren't really that incompatible.

Combine that with the fact that they share an enemy in the Doting Lover and I can see the alignment between them pretty easily.
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>>78296879
The alignment is one way, which isn't exactly rare among the gods but is worth noting. The Strict Master considers his views to be akin to hers, but she does NOT share that sentiment.
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>>78296450
Ah, even better, for the amputee femsub/patriarchy build I have in mind.
>>78296598
Thanks.
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>>78296759
The alignment and opposition aren't exactly if they like or hate each other. Its a matter of how their divine domains interact. I think it's pretty sensible for the god of authority to align with the god of fate.
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>>78296918
Eh, I'm not sure the "Aligns" and "Opposes" sections are especially coherent? Note, for instance, that The Truth Machine both Aligns and Opposes The Starving Lord? Also note that, as written, the Fair Queen has actual Tenets about Undeath being bad and evil, but no strong opinion on The Waiting Judge, the God of Undeath who Opposes her and turns his followers into undead.
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>>78297080
The Fair Queen is imprisoned and everyone hates her, so there's not really enough space to put every god in her 'Opposes' section.
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>>78296879
>Follow your passion and chase your fantasies
That's from the Deep Prophet.
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>>78297176
No, that line is from The Curious Oracle, quoted. The Deep Prophet's is "make your passion your life, make your fantasy your reality." He's her Old God counterpart so it's natural the quote would be similar.
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>>78297080
But The Truth Machine actually does align and oppose with The Starving Lord. Both of them want their followers to improve themselves and those around them and fight to make those improvements real. The catch is that while they have the same end goal, the methods and the definition of what 'improvement' means are diametrically opposed. One of them would cheerfully reduce to rubble every city in the realm, and the other would pave the whole place and set up data centers.

>>78297176
Nah, Deep Prophet's is 'Make your passion your life, make your fantasy your reality.' Similar but a little more sinister.
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>>78297101
>imprisoned
>everyone hates her
>most humans still worship her
If she ever gets free there's gonna be hell to pay for the other gods isn't there?
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>>78297080
The way apo has explained it in the past clears it up a bit.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/48857523/#48899790
Though that was before some changes to the section, the way that align and oppose work hasn't changed. The Truth Machine opposes and aligns with different aspects of the Starving Lord. The Starving Lord has Science as a domain, which would be what she aligns with, but she is about cooperation, and he is very much not.
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>>78297259
No, humans are level 100 cap trash.
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>>78297259
Honestly anon, she's the one who ruined the world. This is all her fault. She has no justification for some kind of righteous response, her imprisonment IS righteousness.
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>>78297304
doesn't mean that she wouldn't be vengeance incarnate if she gets free
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>>78297304
>>78297259
where is this lore
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>>78297348
.7. The Fair Queen is the god of the True Elves, she helped her people summon The Jealous Heart, who ripped their empire apart, killed or raped them all, and spread Corruption throughout the land. It's thus her fault, which is why even the other god who opposes Corruption, The Arrogant Star, doesn't like or help her.
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>>78297101
>everyone hates her
Really? Of the main gods, only Wild Empress and Arrogant Star Oppose her; the feeling is mutual, though she doesn't Align with anyone. Waiting Judge and Mad Queen also Oppose her in a one-sided way, but no one else has any listed issues... and Silent Moon actually Aligns her.

>>78297270
>The Starving Lord has Science as a domain
Ah, fair point.
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>>78297419
>Really?
Anon, the other gods tried and imprisoned her.
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>>78297438
Judged =/= hates.
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>>78297403
>she helped her people summon The Jealous Heart
Why did she do that? And where did the heart come from?
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>>78297461
>Why did she do that?
The elves wanted some kind of power from it. We can only speculate, they were already immortal and master archwizards. Maybe they wanted to ascend their entire race to godhood?
>Where did the heart come from?
The Red.
>>78297460
>Oh don't worry mass murderer who ruined the world selfishly, we don't actually hate you we just want you locked in jail forever!
This is some stupid sunday school kind of dichotomy you're trying to make.
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>>78297259
As Apo has explained in the past, she was the strongest god. However at the time she had made the elves basically a race of demigods. If she gets free she won't be as strong as she was in the past, as she won't have a personal race of demigods that are at the top of the world. Also some of this has changed, most notably when Apo added in the racial transformations.
>>78297304
All she did was excessively favor the elves, while making them immune to corruption, which they took advantage of until they fucked up. She didn't directly help them summon the heart, she just gave them the power to do so and let them play with toys beyond their means while letting them think they were invulnerable.
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>>78297560
>She didn't directly help them summon the heart
Apotheosis implied before that she did, he's said something like "do you think the elves could've done that on their own."
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>>78297461
>>78297501
I thought it came from the Avarice King because he was called the Vermillion Heart.
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>>78297592
The Avarice King is basically the god of The Red. There's no direct statement on how The Jealous Heart is related to The Avarice King and The Charity Queen, only the implication that it is. Their child? The child of the dead got who became The Red and The Pink (and thus by implication The King and Queen?) A demigod The Avarice King was incubating? It's something like that.
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>>78297461
We don't know that she actively helped, but the tentacle apocalypse was caused by the elf king's failed attempt to reach godhood. As the patron goddess of the elves, she - at the least - turned a blind eye to what the king was doing.

The Heart came from the Pink/Red. It's described in the old version of the cyoa.
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>>78297560
>Apo has explained in the past, she was the strongest god
WTF, how??? She's the youngest God!
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/48857523/#48902668
>the youngest of the Old Gods and New Gods are at the top of the page, while the oldest are at the bottom of the page, but the youngest Old God is older than the oldest New God
The Old Gods like the Deep Prophet and Avarice King who specifically have accumulation powers (Deep Scion, Revelation, Consumption, Devour) should logically be the strongest.
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>>78297270
He's also a plant god, while the Ideal Machine is clearly mechanical.

Side note - any thoughts as to why he's "Starving"? Could he be the embodiment of the elvish homeland's (former) greenery, suffocating under the mass of tentacles?
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>>78297717
No, he existed long before the elves mattered.
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>>78297716
It could relate to their identities. She's also a Star, perhaps The Fallen Star was old, but The Fair Queen is young, meaning her identity shift was relatively recent but not her existence.
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>>78297501
>This is some stupid sunday school kind of dichotomy you're trying to make.
Not coincidentally, the sunday school goddess of forgiveness and mercy (Silent Moon) is the one who actually likes Fair Queen.
It is fair that the Fair Queen is imprisoned, which means that she has to support her own imprisonment to some degree. But that doesn't imply hatred. Curious Oracle and Charity Queen both agree with 'treat others fairly', and even add kindness and generosity to the mix, which implies a lot more positivity than that. Even some of the less-nice gods would shy away from hate in the same way they avoid any emotional attachments... like, Deep Prophet is literally the God of Apathy, so not giving a fuck about others is part of his divine nature.
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>>78297749
But was he "starving" at that point? Or was he still the Primordial Gardener?
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>>78297749
Sure, but then he was the Primordial Gardener, not The Starving Lord.
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>>78297844
The Silent Moon is an Outer God, meaning she's some outsider who got dragged here, like you did. She doesn't fully understand or align with the Old/New or Corrupt/Pure conflicts going on in the setting and attempts to treat it all in a moralistic way she's familiar with from her own world even though it doesn't line up with how things actually are. She probably sees The Fair Queen and thinks "Oh I like justice and purity, this Corruption stuff must be bad right?" without getting that it's not that simple or knowing what the realm was like before and thus fully comprehending why The Fair Queen is a bad actor.
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>>78297892
>she's some outsider who got dragged here
Or, more likely, came here on her own.
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>>78297716
The gods hate her, she became the strongest god with this one weird trick. Anyway it seems there was some sort of feedback loop with her and the elves, she made the elves more powerful, and the elves made her more powerful in turn. Also the incident with the jealous heart may not have been the first time she and the elves fucked with a god to steal that god's power. It might have just been the first time it backfired on them.
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>>78297912
I strongly doubt she's here because she wants to, the header of the section says they came with their worshipers. Her followers got sucked into the pervert realm, whether that means she got sucked in too or she followed to try and protect them, I don't think this is some vacation for her.
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>>78297844
It's not kindness to spare a monster their just punishment, nor is it mercy to withhold hatred. Just because they're nice doesn't mean they're incapable of hate.
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Fun thing
Contract Seal does not actually give any control over you what so ever, it's just a legal marking
It can also be set to be maintained by someone and fade if they stop maintaining it

so nothing really stops you from taking that, starting under a ""master"" who's got the barest minimum of spellcasting, and then immediately murdering him the moment you spawn
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>>78297892
>>78297912
Unclear. The Fair Queen was the Fallen Star, as the Silent Moon was the Mourning Star. It might be that Mourning Star went looking for her fallen love, and eventually found her... though it took long enough that they were both in a much different form than expected by then, and the whole imprisonment thing means they still haven't actually been able to meet.

>>78297973
>It's not kindness to spare a monster their just punishment, nor is it mercy to withhold hatred.
Only in the sense that sparing a monster their just punishment is that thing called "mercy", and refraining from hatred is part of kindness. Godminds gonna feel as godminds do, even if those emotional states seem strange and absurd from a mortal viewpoint. Still, omnibenevolence is one of the omnis valid for divinities to grasp, and Charity Queen seems to be more or less there.
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>>78297892
She probably understands things just fine, and 'interloper' does not suggest a person who has been brought into something against their will. She is likely opposed to corruption because it is an external influence that forces itself upon others, and changes people in ways that can make them dangerous to others and society at large. Also that corruption is inclined towards a constant spiral into further corruption rather than toward redemption.
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can MIE take multiple different patrons or only aligned/neutral other patrons? further more, do patron/champion boons apply to all instances or just one instance or would you need an oversoul?
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>>78298212
Your understanding of Corruption is also simplistic and wrong. Gods like The Curious Oracle are fine with Corruption, anon, whereas your purity is supported primarily by The Arrogant Star.
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>>78298253
Not the author, but as it's ultimately the same soul/being/person, I would argue that such a build would only get one patron (unless some other option grants an additional patron).
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>>78298319
You're looking at corruption purely from the standpoint of what gods support or oppose it. Rather than how it functions in the world. The very nature of corruption can transform people without any say from the affected. You can be pushed into wanton hedonism against your will by corruption.
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>>78298506
The morality of the gods that support it is evidence enough that it's not innately a moral evil. How it functions in the world varies between different races and forms. Fallen Humans and Dark Elves don't get transformed by it unless they want to, for example. They're hedonistic, but they enjoy and celebrate it, hedonism isn't innately some evil way of life. The only race that suffers extremely from corruption is the humans, who are a foreign race who came here and refused to adapt.
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>>78298584
>humans, who are a foreign race who came here and refused to adapt.
source?
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>>78298584
>hedonism isn't innately some evil way of life.
There is a difference between people willingly being hedonistic, and people being forced into hedonism without any say in the matter.
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>>78298676
Yes yes I get it, anon, you don't want to engage with the blue and orange morality of the Tentacle Realm, The Silent Moon exists for your type. Again, this is a setting where the natural supporter of purity supports innocent cruelty and selfish psychopathy, while the ones that support corruption believe in things like kindness, charity, and self-actualization. From the setting's perspective, hedonism, even brought about by a tentacle monster tickling your insides and getting you addicted, is considered a form of aligning with your desires. You think of it in terms of violation of free will instead, which is valid, but this isn't the morality tract the natives are running on.
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>>78298766
>you don't want to engage with the blue and orange morality of the Tentacle Realm,
What do you mean by "blue and orange morality"?
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>>78298801
It's a common way of expressing that the morality system at play is alien. Rather than black and white (maybe grey) as people tend to think of morality, the natives think of morality as blue and orange, completely differently.
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>>78298620
It's mentioned somewhere in .7 that humans came to the realm from outside of it.
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>>78298766
You're taking a couple of gods and extrapolating a directional morality system for all corruption from them. Each god is their own axis. The first two gods in the section, the Wild Empress and the Fair Queen are both opposed to corruption, but have wildly different views on morality and society. The gods might align in some ways on some subjects but that doesn't mean they all share the same system. Also I was giving a reason for her to oppose corruption, that isn't that she doesn't understand it. You can understand a philosophy without ascribing to it.
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>>78298954
>a couple of gods
More like all the native gods. All the New Gods are Corrupt except The Fair Queen, after all.
>That isn't that she doesn't understand it
Their header says their perspectives and motives don't align with the other gods. Whether you think she 'understands' it or not, the point is that she is completely outside of, and alien to, the morality tract the native deities are running on. Her morality tract doesn't fit the Tentacle Realm's, but is more like our own.
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>>78298954
Also, The Wild Empress isn't innately hostile to Corruption. She just supports you fighting, if that means you're fighting and enforcing your freedom as a corrupt tentacle rapist or doing so as some pure paladin isn't her concern. She has no precepts or powers/boons that align her against Corruption, she just gives you favor for struggling at all. The Arrogant Star and The Fair Queen are the only native gods that are specifically against Corruption completely.
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I like the wisened void he seems nice
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>>78299064
>was the Universal Illusion
>aligns with the Mad Queen
He is not.
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>>78298846
Is the morality system really so alien, though? The Old Gods believe in "arete", the idea that there is a virtuous cycle between "might makes right" and "right breeds might". Meanwhile, the New Gods are all about noblesse oblige and Spideman's Dictuum. In other words, promoting the excellence of the few vs. the needs of the majority.
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>>78287091
Have there been announcements when the out of date parts will be updated?
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>>78299280
Apo seems to be busy for the rest of the year. So not any time soon.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/77991419/#78004149
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>>78287091
Do I play this
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>>78299590
You can. Or any one of the thousands of cyoas we've archived.
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>>78290485
Old Gods are better than new. The old gods are straightforward but the new gods are insidious and manipulative
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>>78287091
Ideal Humanity anon here
just completed my second build, and as much as I promised myself this would be a significantly more mechanical build than narrative, I once again find myself creating thousands of words of writefagging... why must I do this to myself
ironically enough though, this build is by far and away one that Ideal Humanity wouldn't have any qualms about immediately trying to kill, not the least because it'd probably try to kill him first
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>>78300150
>why must I do this to myself
Sometimes the creative writing demons just won't leave unless you put the ideas to paper.
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>>78298846
>It's a common way of expressing
I don't see anyone but tvtropes enthusiasts use it, not exactly the most trustyworthy place to learn anything
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>>78299106
See>>78297018
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Can I pick the memory-erasing Curses with Hive Mind? I like the idea of several people unaware that they are actually one soul split into multiple but not sure if it would be considered cheating to only pick lets say, Tabula Rasa to build A and B but not C and D and E
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>>78289952
Didn't expect to be attacked like that.
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I wonder with the undiscovery boon from the Mad Queen
Since you're retroactively never having experienced the sensory input and information in the first place, and it's divine in nature, would this let you counteract any use of evil eye or flat out any mental status?
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>>78290003
as the person who made that build, it's because it's not necessarily meant to be a played build
it was mostly a thought experiment to see if it was possible to make a monster build, that's also high purity and sort of test out how restrictive the vows are

essentially it's less meant to be an actual build and more an example for other people
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>>78299854
What in the hell is this bs? What makes the Old Gods any less insidious or manipulative? Sounds like you fell for the Old God's manipulation, or do you really think you're going to be special to them and not just some pawn to use for their ends if you side with them?
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>>78300790
It's been popular on /tg/ for at least 15 years.
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>>78301232
At least they're honest about making you a pawn
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>>78300150
>>78300250
ah fuck this is gonna be even worse than Ideal Humanity, I'm only halfway thru the mutations and I'm already at half the word count of the entire Ideal Humanity build
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>>78301767
I feel your pain on that
the urge to writefaggot is great
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>>78301760
>honest
They never needed to hide their intentions since they had no competition before, and by the time they did everyone already knows who they are
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>>78301760
You say that like the New Gods aren't honest. The whole them being a god laying down tenants that they want you to follow sets a pretty clear tone.
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>78299854
Bait used to be believeable
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>>78301170
No, you would only forget about being mind controlled, not remove the mind control.
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>>78302822
it includes any sensory input or information retroactively and evil eye requires eye contact
if you can just ignore the sensory input from that it should allow you to just ignore them having evil eye

would be on brand
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>>78298405
Would only one body going to the holy land per year be enough to satisy the Charity Queen?
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>>78296334
As I understand it, it's the original.
Another person added 3 more pages and turned it into a battle royale at the end for some reason.
Another, separate person expanded it into the lighter document where each harem gave you two possible powers, usually an immortality + btg power for cheap and then a power power for doing some arduous challenge.
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Some retarded faggot keeps trying to redirect /tg/'s mentally deranged shitposters and /pol/schizos here.
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>>78287091
There are certainly lots and lots of ways to be a degenerate freak but what about turning other people into parts of your body, is it possible in that cyoa? Either them keeping their conciousness or reduced to a unthinking pair of breasts that only desires to be fondled and milked is both fine but honestly I would prefer later, there is something incredibely hot about corrupting the mind of your prey into being solely dedicated to their new purpose as a extension of your body
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>>78303845
Well, good. When we get shipped off to the Tentacle Realm, we'll need cannon fodder to feed to the tentacle pits. :)
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>>78303845
Surprisingly, the thread seems to be relatively chill here so lets hope he keeps failing
Also, lets leave the tg folks alone too otherwise they will start raiding in retaliation, it happened a few times in the past
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>>78303982
Telepathy, Fleshwarping, and Enchantment
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>>78304123
>>78303982
don't forget the mutate negative status effect, being able to push any mutation on anyone is horrorshow material

with those combos you could just All Tomorrows anyone you come across as well
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>>78299226
I've heard of noblesse oblige, but what the hell is Spideman's Dictuum? I can't find anything from a quick search.
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>>78304671
He's talking about that famous line Uncle Ben taught Peter, the "with great power, comes great responsibility" one that motivated him into becoming a superhero instead of just fucking around and profiting from his powers.
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>>78287091
If I were the author I would allow the trap body type to grant you the F point bonus for a small number of mutations and vice-versa for Tomboy
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I know it will only be a thing next year but I'm looking foward the Living Clothes update in Part 2, its THE most important part of the cyoa for a corrupted magical girl build for me
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>>78305028
I feel like them just being fueled by you going "yeah I could totally handle that many orgasms a day" is a fundamental design flaw though
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>>78305028
could make a character already and go as living clothes inspiration what was in the previous build?
would be neat to see a magic girl build



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