General for discussion of Human Domestication Guide & related fiction.Floret Occupied Government edition>What is HDG?HDG is a collective kink writing project about the Affini (an advanced precursor civilization from outer space), who aggressively care for every other species in the universe. They have finally turned their glittery eyes on future grimderp hypercapitalist nightmare humanity. Using their natural charisma and various classes of Xenodrugs, they aim to make Florets (d̶o̶c̶i̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶d̶r̶u̶g̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶e̶t̶s̶ loved and cared for individuals) of us all! But don't worry, they only have everyone's best interests at heart, even if their methods aren't even remotely consensual~>Where can I read it?Read the original story here https://readonlymind.com/@GlitchyRobo/HumanDomesticationGuide/or check other stories on ROM https://readonlymind.com/search/?q=%23Human_Domestication_Guideor Ao3 https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Human%20Domestication%20Guide%20-%20GlitchyRobo/worksor the wiki: https://hdg.wiki/thread gently reprimanded for antisocial behavior: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78288534
Boy whipping is good. I want to write the boy breaking down from the abuse and begging for gentleness only to finally get it because he agreed to be a good pet who doesn't escape. Boy sobbing in his affinis arms about his girlfriend abused him and his affini insisting it's different because she really loves him and cares for him and she coos and pets him in-between the sobs Boy trauma bonded to affini that hurts him because she's the only one who guarantee that he won't be hurt by anyone else besides her
>>78331303God I want to be a cute floret
more like Floret Assisted Government, am I right
More like I’ll never be happy right
i hate the fact that i have such conflicted feelings about proper submission. Its genuinely fucked. Like, being forced to submit by force, is unbelievably hot. Thinking about it makes me all squirmy and yearny, heavy breathing, mindsets, full shebang. But at the same time, if its not flavoured *just* right, its just as likely to make me queasy or just angry. These are somehow both true at the same time and i just cant resolve it with myself.
Last thread we had two (2!) cuties write about their domesticated lives! Fox on the Run: https://rentry.org/affinicuteVocational Refusal: https://rentry.org/VocationalRefusalWhy don't you write a little blurb about your own domestication? or, if for some unfortunate reason you're still unclaimed, why not tell us about a run-in you had with an affini where you left with your independence in tact?
>>78331564God I want a crossover between those so badly. Or just a more formal expansion to both.
>>78331564If i spend hours writing out a cringe fantasy and then noone cares to read it ill be realy embarrased AND ill have wasted two hours cause i coulda just imagined it
>>78331564There's an affini continuously commenting under my rape and non con fics how much they would want to do this to me. I've been ignoring it so far but I'm honestly scared to encounter them. My tablet glitches out when I try to look at notices of intent against me
>>78331628that's kinda scary! if you're uncomfortable with reaching out to them directly (and I would be!), I would ask a neighborfinni or a clerkfinni to look into that and see if they're just roleplaying along with you or if they really have intent to act. it's probably just a game for them, but still, it's good to set boundaries!
>>78331614aww I know putting yourself out there can be difficult, but it can also be a lot of fun! what kinda cringe fantasy are you thinking about, anyway?
>>78331856I asked one of my neighborffini and they said they know her and that she's serious but don't worry because I won't regret it at all
>>78331856>Get called into the BXWC>They want you to meet the Affini who's been writing uncomfortably detailed comments under your domestication fiction about how badly they want to rape and beat you>You really don't like this whole situation>You don't want to be in the same room as this weed, much less a room that happens to be in the same building as all the paperwork she needs to legally own you>You tried to explain this to the clerk over the phone, but she simply insisted that you were going to want to come in and left it at that>The tone deafness and lack of understanding is rather uncharacteristic of most Affini, much less one who's job it is to understand sophonts>You oblige and head to your local BXWC>Steeling your nerves, you push open the door to room where you're set to meet your stalker>There are two Affini waiting for you>And a floret, who's crying as hard as you've ever seen one cry>She's blubbering and stammering and stuttering, much to the amusement of the pair of Affini>The clerk turns her smile up to you>She plants her hand on top of the floret's head and roughly tussles their hair>"Anonymous, meet Rapelessia NonConifera, Eighteenth Bloom~"
>>78332215Imagining this happening to me but I’m already with an Affini and the poor floret is even more embarrassed realizing I wouldn’t be available even if she was her Affinisona
>>78332215Honestly kind of adorable I would love to let a rambunctious floret pretend to rape me
>>78331909nothing particularly original i guess, i just don't really write and putting my thoughts and fantasy to paper and sharing them would inevitable be really cringe, not because the things i like are unusual for these parts, but just cause i'd suck at writing, likely producing something that neither satisfys my fantasizing nor is enjoyable to read... i was thinking slow burn romancy "not quite feral but jaded and distrustful terran gets to know an affini and falls for her more and more, getting really upset and scared when they notice but they're comforted through it by the gentle yet forceful vine they need to hold on to as the come to terms with whats happening"
>>78332215>During the harassment, find an Affini friend who promises to protect you from this mean other plant lady>She realizes it’s a Floret almost immediately (eighteenth bloom? really???)>Doesn’t do the stereotypical Affini thing of making you more afraid to slap a collar on you>Goes with you to the meeting (which she insisted on) and is about as mean as you’ve ever seen an Affini be to anybody, ever>Much less a floret>Doesn’t even realize that by doing that she’s made you want to be her pet for real, with no manipulation at all
>>78332460well, that sounds nice, but I won't press you any further. If you do find yourself putting a story together, be sure to share with the class!>>78332105ah, well at least that's settled!
>>78331564After visiting the HDG discord I have discovered two things: they aren’t so anti-4chan that they would get mad at a story in greentext format (they were nothing but nice and seemed to really like Fox on the Run) and I have basically no hope of finding someone to req or comm an extension to the story there (mostly because every writer there is already working on tons of other stories). It wasn’t a disaster though! They didn’t ban me or anything.>>78331586I want this too very much. Very VERY much.
>>78332795Oh wait that's you? Fuck
>>78332976If you’re in the Discord, yeah that guy is me! But they don’t want 4chan discussion there and I respect that so I’m not mentioning the thread or anything. From what I’ve seen they’re all really nice.
>>78333136Does you
I could realy use an affini to hold me and coo words of comfort at me as i cry and sob into them for no clear reasonDoing it alone in bed seems realy pathetic
>>78333153What does that mean…>>78333171Yeah me too actually you’d think they would have services for that. God Affini are falling down on the job lately.
>>78331564I'm bad at writing outside of RPs so I'll write using the ancient art of greentext. But yeah, this seems like a lighter noncon way of breaking me>Got domesticated when the Affini came, really it was inevitable, I may have been emotionally stable, but I sure wasn't psychologically healthy>Despite that owner refuses to get me an implant until I ask for it, no class-H, no forced core cuddles, just trying to proverbially kill me with kindness>As if that would work when you give me drugs to make me look girly and put me on so many class-Cs I bond with inanimate objects>Every now and then I try to escape. The first few attempts were serious until I realized my owner was fucking with me, now I mostly do it out of boredom>Which leads me to my current situation, I'm successfully escaping, I managed to get the collar off, I managed to escape the hab, I managed to slip out of the carefully controlled town and into the forest>As the town vanishes between the trees I sigh in relief, I think I really escaped, maybe they just got lazy or got bored of me and let me go>I'm finally free of them>No more drugs to make me look girly because I'm happier, no more being picked up, petted, and coddled...>No more being around the Affini that probed my mind to find out my bad childhood memories and only let me keep them when I begged...>No more having someone who wants to listen to me babble on about inane topics while praising me for being so smart like I need attention...>End up bawling against a tree as I miss my owner, these damn class-Cs>Feel myself picked up by vines and bury my head in their chest>As my sobbing dies down slowly I mumble that I'm ready to get a haustoric implant
>>78331506I can get that, submission is a strange topic, on the one hand its arousing but on the other hand people are mostly raised to value personal freedom and autonomy
>mention to independent friend that maybe she shouldn't hang out with that one affini QUITE so much if she's actually planning to stay independent >she shrugs it off saying it's fine>meanwhile, she hasn't made a single meaningful decision in the last 3 days for herself.>hangs on the affini's every word>pretty clearly wearing a companion dress>eh whatever, she'll be happy either way>few days later>she runs up to me sobbing>apparently the affini filed an involuntary domestication on her>something about it being unethical to let her be apart from her new mistress when she has so thoroughly bonded with her>she's on the run>begging me for help >before I can say anything, her affini is there>out of nowhere, pulling her away>proceeds to break her right in front of everyone>her biorhythms are cranked up so high even I can feel them from 15 feet away, despite barely knowing her>pumping her full of God knows what>pressing down all my friend's complaints with only her presence >once the fight is out of her, the affini started commanding her to affirm her new status herself>getting seriously woozy at this point myself>stumble, almost fall>caught by the affini's vines, despite seemingly having all of her attention on her new floret>struggle to back away>vine makes a token attempt to hold me, but releases me without too much trouble>the rest is pretty hazy, but make it back to hab without too much trouble >pretty sure I got some phytotoxin from the vineAnyway, now she's trying to set me up on a playdate with my friend, how do I tell her I need some time away to adjust? I swear I can still hear the rhythm.
the one thing I hate about HDG is that there isn't enough footfag stuff in it
>>78333347You're so cute I want to forcefem you >>78335322You're fucked bro might as well go to the domestication center
>>78331564>Head to domestication center >Floret at the counter asks why I'm there>Say I want to be a service animal to a disabled affini and that it's my highest calling >She hands me the paperwork and fill it out>A few days later get a call>Meet my affini>Melon brained, slightly socially stunted, uncoordinated >Love her >Make sure her plushies are always arranged >Make sure she has the proper mineral water>Make sure she gets plenty of cuddles>Affini drugs means I can be more competent but on bad disability days she can help me or we can both rot together >Rub her core with my face>She slips walking and we end up tumbling down the stairs >Laugh it off >I love my disabled owner and I wouldn't have if any other way
>>78335767Honestly kind of right
>>78335994I want nothing more than to be a disabled affinis service animal. It would bring me so much joy in making them happy. I want to be good and of use even though I'm disabled. Nothing else would satisfy all my parts as much as serving a disabled affini
>>78335767>>78336067I am once again going to shill the Stop Running series, which features both footfag stuff and disabled affini although the floret of the disabled finni isn't really a service animal
I want to have an extremely realistic nightmare about a really difficult day and then wake up and be comforted by my Affini even though I’m too proud to say anything about it (I’m her little warrior I will NOT ask for major levels of comfort from a dream about something that isn’t even true anymore. I won’t I won’t I only need some pets that’s it and I’ll be okay nothing more)
>>78335878I refuse to be domesticated by proxy. >:^(
>>78336170IGenuinely can someone actually pitch this fic? Tell me the plot. With spoilers preferably but I just It keeps getting recommended as good and I have no idea anything about its plot which is deeply suspicious to me And also it's important to me that the sub be a service animal. If they're disabled and their sub isn't helping in some way it's not going to hit as hard for me.>>78336241Cute little warrior
>>78336241Person with severe PTSD and regular nightmares that make it difficult to sleep if Im not made to feel really really safeId just like to not have these fucked up memories worms their way into my dreams anymore, please. 3: Any plommy that can do that can *have* me, Ill even turn in the rest of my shipmates.
serial cuddler
I mean, if cuddling cereal makes you happy, go for it, but I have to ask, do you cuddle it dry or with milk?
>>78338363with milkfresh raw milk from the local floret barn, to be specific
Floret milk is good and all, but feral milk is a delicacy
the best milk comes from terrans who have just become florets but aren't fully broken yet so being milked is still a humiliating experience for them, and watching people drink and enjoy their milk is even more humiliating (their affini makes sure they get to see just how much everyone loves it)
I want an affini to love me
>>78336402>Tell me the plot. With spoilers preferably>which is deeply suspicious to meI'm going to assume that "with" is a typo because this is a story that has a very emotional "twist" two thirds of the way through the first book that recontextualizes everything and makes the story unique in the setting, and I'm not going to be the one who spoils it.But here:>Ships' navigator refuses a suicidal order, mutineer captain tries to shoot her, affini intervene >Navigator gets flagged as probationary independent and assigned to a bureaucrat as a ward>Warden has had florts in the past but currently doesn't, and wasn't on the list of volunteers, but the ship's over capacity, so Warden takes Navigator on anyway>Navigator has some missteps while adjusting to compact life but is generally on a path to independence >Makes some friends, sees some sights, learns about their Warden's past florets (anxiety-ridden bunnies who shared a planet with predators)>Warden sees Navigator's potential but is struggling to provide the proper care that would help her to remain free>Both Navigator and Warden's flamboyant troublemaker friend notice Warden's struggle, Friend offers to take over Navigator's wardshipThere. That covers the first half of the book. Along the way Navigator gets her kinks (exhibition, feet/tickling, intox, hypno to start) indulged, takes some drugs, deals with grief & trauma, and learns about the magic of bureaucracy
affini that fancies themselves a matchmaker (they read up on terran mating customs and got some mistletoe grafts)
>>78338566kys
>>78335878>You're so cute I want to forcefem youWell thank you
bap
Stelaris discourse has come up a few times beforeTheres sn hdg mod and all and some of the flavourtext is just perfect, yes yes.But i keep discovering extra details that make hol up for a sec...Did you know there an achivement called "we'll make great pets" for having 1000 your primary species in zoos?
Man I sure do want to kill my self
>>78338698With is not a fucking typo, I prefer to know what I'm getting into. When I'm on the fence about a story that long the thing that moves the needle is spoileds
>>78342095I find Affini underpowered as AI DESU>Make game that's essentially hell>Affini plus Blorg modified into being domesticators>Two rogue servitor races>Determined Exterminators>Consuming horde or whatever it's called>Fanatic Purifiers>Barbaric Despoilers>Only real source of allies might be two species who want to turn my people into pets and two species who want to turn my people into NEETs>Early on Affini start getting slaughtered by purifiers>Invade purifiers>Race to purifiers' homeworld>80% of fanatic purifiers are under rule of humanity while remaining 20% are domesticated by Affini>Continue game, form what's essentially a de facto alliance between Affini, Blorg, and one of the servitors (other was wiped out)>Humanity is too accepting of others and by end game my national council includes zero humans but two Affini, one of the Fanatic purifiers who I defeated early game, and a Blorg>In human "ruled" space vast majority of humans are independents, but due to migration across the galaxy around 60% of humans are floretsThere also were some funny situations, like when I lost a world, Affini conquered it from said enemy later and the human population was almost all domesticated in a generation or when I capture a world that the Affini lost and now I have a ton of human florets. Would probably be weird being a human soldier, landing on a world that used to be controlled by your de facto allies only to see the entire human population are walking around on leashes like pets led around by your de facto allies.
>>78342600Imagine being an affini and suddenly the human government arrives after you world was taken over by the bugs and they set up a little flag and suddenly realize you all turned the colonists into pets I love the idea of an affini migrant who knows the humans don't like it when she just corners and takes a cutie so she begrudgingly *dates* them instead and has to wait months before she agrees to be alone with her and then she can finally take and claim her against her will
>>78338566what if an affini threw you like a foot ball
>>78343159Affini would be even more interesting in a setting where they aren't completely dominant. Also the human government having no humans was amusing.>Be human politician>Run for present of the Republic of Earth>Go to debate>Five other candidates are participating in debate>Two Affini, a robot, a guy from a species who were attempting to genocide everyone a century ago, and a space slime>Affini keep hypnotizing the audience so that they always cheer them and boo the other Affini and Blorg>Robot keeps mentioning embarrassing things I posted online 20 years ago as he's constantly scanning the web>After the debate shake my opponents' hands>The Affini and Blorg just pet me and tell me I look cute in my suit>The robot says that I should just relax and that I looked stressed out there>Alien pulls me close and whispers into my ear that as soon as his people take power they'll put us in camps
>>78343628they probably would im pretty awful
>>78344025they do it because you're cute and they love you
>>78344025>>78344149imagine how aerodynamic you'd be
>>78344158mistress subtly changing your class-Gs to make you more aerodynamic
>>78344149if they loved me they would give me pets and kiss me and not toss me through the air except gently into bed before joining me and making me feel loved>>78344158not very but thats ok i want love not aerodynamics
>>78342600desu i havent managed to get them tp spawn when im not playing them myselfi tried like 6 times and no dicebut yea, they're not super powerful as AI. You could tag over to them and take the "galactic destiny" decision or whatever for them to buff them i guess. Short of that, even with their special bonuses and whatever its still just an AI nation bumbling around as any other.I think for when you play as the accord or any other nation, it'd be much cooler if they were a mid or endgame crisis, like the unbidden, they suddenly arrive to your galaxy
>>78344365you get a kiss every time they catch you. and then they throw you like the foot ball again
>>78343628>>78344025>>78344149>Sitting on a bench at the park>There's a large, conspicuous net strung up between the trees behind me>The Affini who pass by freeze up, conflicted, before reluctantly moving on>One of them stops>She finally loses the battle with her inner demons>I'm lifted into the air and launched backwards, hitting a peak of at least twenty feet in the air before I come back down>The net catches me, slowing my descent before my head can hit the ground>I pull the counter out of my pocket and click it >Seven so far, and it's only been an hour>As I'm crawling out of the net, I can see that the Affini that threw me has already moved on>Probably afraid that if she stayed she'd lose the rest of the day to just throwing me back and forth>As I sit back down on my bench, I glance towards the small group of Affini who've gathered across the street to watch me>One of them starts to approach>I preemptively hit the button to add her to the total
>>78344381I think they might only force spawn if you play the Accord. I edit them slightly so they're a new empire and I force spawn that. Could also play as them and console command switch to another empire.
I am neither a floret nor an independent.
national floretism
>>78346311Permanent wardship
Got called "infinitely cruel" today by an Affini for not letting her pet me, since I was supposedly being "especially wonderful and adorable" today.
>>78348568How could you not let her pet you for just a little bit after evrything they've done for us...
>want to read The Money Store again>Ao3 link throws a 404Did the author delete it for some reason?
i need a big plant to make me stop feeling upset and sad and anxious about things please
I really want one of these but I have no idea how to get stuff 3d printed
>>78331303I want so bad to groom the every living fuck out of some eggy cis guy into HDG. I want to make him call me Mistress and hypnotize him into thinking I'm a plant. I want to force and estrogen injection into him and then force him to get off with my foot
>>78352283Not a hundred percent sure what I'm even looking at. I assume it's some kind of collar?
>>78352283does it need to be 3d printed? you can just like, buy those.>>78352636shock collar, I think
>>78352636yes it's a collar with an insert part for a shocker>>78352654>does it need to be 3d printed? you can just like, buy those.you can buy standard shock collars but it's just like a dog collar and the prongs are usually too long and stuff
indie who likes watching floret videosthey're not getting off to it or anything they just think florets are cute like any other pet
>>78352705there are services that print stuff you send them and mail it to you. I've not used them before but it ought to be fairly simple, just google it
>>78352705I mean ten seconds of google found fancier stuff. Also I'd prefer a metal collar.
>>78353472I checked this website, their stuff is hundreds of dollars
Wow writing things down sure takes alot longer than just imagining things huh
>>78353773sure doessure does>>78352746awww yay!
>>78353752You know what, fair enough. Truth be told I like the appearance of the 3D printed collar more. Maybe paint it a metallic colour or something. Pic related is the kind of thing I'd probably want if I was collared. Haha hypothetically though. Imagine actually wanting to have a heavy collar you can't remove as a mark of another's ownership over you, that'd be crazy.
>>78353966hahaha yeaimagine right?
>>78353966>Pic related is the kind of thing I'd probably want if I was collaredyes, that looks really nice actually
fussy terran who makes the affini reinvent the refrigerator because they want to be able to have leftovers and having a perfectly-preserving stasis chamber is NOT the same thing
>>78349729I've let this Affini do things to me that I could be domesticated for if I admitted to them online. My therapist (also an Affini, by the way) suggested that setting some boundaries could help improve my self esteem.
>>78348568I love he insult of "infinitely cruel" sounds like something a floret would say for someone not completely catering to their arbitrary and stupid whims.
will signing up for domestication fill the aching hole in my soul?
>>78331303Ventablack Brimstone
>>78356355the act of signing up alone probably won't but yes you will be paired off with somefinni who will do their very best to resolve any such concerns you may carry
>affini aren’t as dominant as the plot armor meme says>they seed things like the HDG Stellaris mod to identify sophonts that would make things troublesome >if you beat them on nightmare settings you get to be one of the first lucky rescues and get a cute little medal
>>78331564I am the top gamer on my planet. In one particular game anyway. I kept winning even after the affini took over, and one of them kept trying to beat me at tournaments but couldn’t do it. Eventually we became online friends. Then one day the out of nowhere I woke up in her hab. She had already given me an a bunch of car biomods and have an implant put in. I’m furious about it which is a bit odd since she could turn that emotion off but she hasn’t. She doesn’t make me do anything either, although she only lets me eat fattening foods and I’m gaining weight. The one thing she does make me do is sit on her lap when she’s playing games or even when I’m playing games. It’s weird and I tell I hate her and would blast her into the sun but she doesn’t get mad Weed bitch.
>>78358172Car biomods sound badass. Can you off-road?
>>78358373Don’t make fun of me you try typing with fucking paws
>>78359349Making fun would be mean, I was legit interested.
>>78358172>>78359349lol I actually thought you meant car toocan you even play games with paws?
>>78358373>>78360532>Mistress gives you car biomods but just turns you into a honda civic
>>78360584>reliable >good longevity>low cost to repairmistress wants to keep you around for a long timeyou should thank her for her kindness
>>78360584DEJA VU, I'VE JUST BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE
>>78360584>car biomods
>Wake up>Exit bedroom>There's a floret sitting on your couch, sipping juice>You contact the hab building admin to complain that your hab AI is letting random lost florets in again
>>78363172Tell the floret that you will call the mistress and say they have been a very bad pet if they don't leave right now
>>78364574Threaten to call their owner? They're literally waiting for me to get up so I can call their owner. I guess what they really want is for me to hold their hand, walk them to their floor, and bring them home, but they'll take a call. They didn't do anything wrong, the problem is the AI letting them in without my permission to wait for me (or wake me up, which happens sometimes) instead of just contacting their owner directly. I literally just tell the AI to do that. I don't need to be involved at all, and the floret doesn't need to be let in to touch all my stuff.
>>78360676I'd rather be a lifted Ford F-450 Superduty.
>>78364666are they cute
The Affini in the hab next to me seems to just be using it as a greenhouse to grow. I've never met them in person, but I can see their massive, dense foliage through their unusually large windows even from the street. They've completely overgrown their balcony and are creeping up and down the "fire escape." I'm pretty sure the Affini have better ways to deal with fire than rusty ladders hanging from the sides of buildings, and the last time I heard an Affini refer to them, they called it a "trellis." But anyway, my hab, and my balcony, are right next to hers. She's reached out with a little vine feeler and grabbed on to my balcony and is starting to grow over. I've tried knocking on her door to ask her to stop, but she didn't answer. The BXWC actually has a form for this, but it's like eight pages front and back, and requests a LOT of information, some which I don't have. I've seen domestication contacts shorter and less dense. I posted to florrit's f/xenoneighbors board asking for advice and they all said to just said to get some pruning shears and take care of it. "It's your balcony, you can do what you want" they say, "she's trespassing on your property" they say, but I don't think habs really work like that in the Compact. Thoughts? Advice?
>>78364666>weld the door shut>they're in the room somehow anyway
>>78366011Climbing into an air duct
>>78366011you probably shouldn't weld your own door shut for other reasons
Ivasion(hope)
>>78367045Invasion*
>>78365908Okay, so you have a couple of options. First, put the pruners away, you're only going to want those if you're getting desperate for attention.I think your best bet is to file the Notice of Uninvited Incursion even though it'll be a hassle. You don't necessarily have to fill out the entire thing yourself, as long as you include a photo and enough info to make it look like you tried, it'll route to a horticultural liaison and they'll come take a look. That said, if there is a local affini you happen to like, you now have a legitimate reason to utter some of the most attractive words an independent can say: "I need some help with some paperwork" but if you really don't want to go that route, put up a shade cloth over the contact area. blocking the light should gently signal the vine to leave. If that doesn't work, literally hang a little note on it with your name and comms tag on it. "Hey! your vine seems to be exploring my balcony, mind pulling back?" would probably be enough.I think the main thing to remember is that it's like a puppy sticking its nose through a fence. it's just curious! but if you want it gone, you have the right to ask it to leave. and of course you could request a hab transfer yourself, but you shouldn't need to run from a little thing like this.
someone in another thread (the last one maybe idk) said they thought the setting would be more interesting if affini weren't the only super advanced species and it gave me a funny idea. what if the galaxy had a whole bunch of overpowered technologicially advanced civilisations but for some inexplicable reason ALL of them found humans to be adorable and wanted to keep them as pets??
>>78367706Vorlons think humans would be cute being cut down into very sober, in a prim and proper society structured with clear roles each of which are expansive enough to cover up those little idiosyncracies. One day (within the next million years) you might even get the chance to reincarnate/ascend to their ranks.Shadows wants to ruin us into something truly unpredictable, essentially be as feral and loud as possible, they will even drip feed us their technology like they did to the Drakh. Maybe even set up interstellar bloodsports between their most favored pawns (they are all told they are the chosen ones).
>>78367706Can't go 15 parsecs without an alien propositioning me to be a pet and I tell you Bobby I just want to truck. I don't want be some Vormulian sex slave or Xalfarian lap pet and the dolls the Mexers make of humans? Fucking creepy as shit! Just let me drop my fucking cargo off in horizon in peace I don't wanna be a pet and don't need to! It won't make me happy
>>78367045pretty!
>>78367866Anon, the Watchers just want to take you on a multiversal round trip and share experiences on the deepest level possible. I heard that Thirdspace has very good weather at this contiguous moment.
>>78367706I read a fic called "sapience denied" with that idea. In order to be considered sapient a species must be able to understand FTL travel, but humans are incapable of it and just go crazy or get brain damage so they're declared nonsapient, but most species find humans adorable and take them in as pets.As an aside I actually had a stellaris game where I made humans THE pet species>Human empire has some sort of former galactic empire origin>Rest of the galaxy are rogue servitors and domesticators>All of them have humans as their secondary species>Be humanity>Had glorious galactic empire, nobody could challenge us>Our empire collapsed to internal struggles>After over a century of isolation able to return and reclaim our birthright>Meet a species, former loyal servants of humanity>They have humans acting like retarded puppies being walked on leashes>Find our former machine servants>They're keeping humans in gilded cages and plan to drop us in there too>All of the galaxy is in agreement that they universally love humans but humans absolutely should never be in charge againAlso gave humans a bunch of unity boosting traits so human florets and biotrophies qere actually pretty powerful with generating tons of unity.
>>78363172if this happens a lot, compile some UV goggles and check out your hab's outside someone might have tagged it with "has juice boxes on standby" or "sucks floret cock" or whatever
>>78368019Why can't I just be a space trucker? Why do I have to go on multiversal trips with a Watcher huh? I know you all just think humans look super cute when blissed and orgasming constantly but I don't! I like having a life with difficulty and struggle
>>78367045>>78367122very beautiful and gives me hope. hope that maybe someday i will be in a soft nice smelling lap getting petted so good getting kissed and not even remember what the fuck was going on before things were so wonderful
>>78368289Incredibly hot imagine being fought over by a bunch of machines and xenos over who gets to make you a blissed out pet
>>78368469Well, this is a once in the whole eternity opportunity, besides its just one vacation trip. Time flows differently there so it'll just be a few days in your native universe. Maybe. It's quite exciting though. Usually Thirdspace is a no-go zone due to its omnicidal natives, but they seem to be all off somewhere else recently so you can take in all the sights (for free of course if you're worrying).
>>78368512>Aliens are living in the ringworld your ancestors constructed thousands of years ago for them while keeping your distant cousins as pets and saying that you're too cute to be taken seriously when you offer any suggestionOur ancestors should have never uplifted these plants and animals.
>>78368592If you didn't want to be a pet cutie maybe your empire shouldn't have fallen! You're so very smart but so short sighted and silly. You need a caring vine or paw to thrive! Our models show that humans that have a legal owner are 59% more happy than feral ones
anyone else take genuine comfort in the fact there's a non-zero chance the affini or an affini-esque species will show up? it's silly but it's something to make the future seem less bleak ig
fhwhh hottt
>>78368568Hmm maybe I should take you up on this deal. If it's just a vacation. If I wake up in a collar im calling my lawyer!
>>78368703I do it sometimes helps me feel less alone>>78368718Link to story?
>>78368703i do this sometimes but get scared at the idea that a non affini but similarly powerful species is out there somewhere
>>78368773id take it desu even if theyre not perfectly benevolent gods, anything but humanity only
>>78368718Had me til I read "cummies".
>>78368931that shits demeaning and infantalizing as hell that's why it's kino
I specifically want an Affini to treat me like her pet for a day. As a preview thing. Not forever…
>>78369482i'm sure if you tell any affini that they'd be absolutely overjoyed to take you as a pet for 'a day' : )
>>78369506Ok but can they even do stuff like getting me ears and a tail they can pet? I thought those took surgery and stuff
>>78369376Infantilizing stuff makes me want to fight. Like, legitimately want to punch someone til they stop moving.There's funner ways to degrade. :[
>>78369521unless you just want to wear a cute headband and fake tail, yes you're going to need to go down for surgery you probably won't need an implant though, if you're okay with them being non-responsive
>>78369733Ha!!! So I CAN’T be someone’s pet for just a little bit! Even the Affini have limits! They aren’t perfect!!! I can’t know what it’s like to feel so loved and so cared for and safe and like life isn’t a spiral of endless misery with little bursts of happiness without signing all my rights and life away to an alien occupying force!!! I knew it!!! Why am I so sad!!!
>>78369566every1 is different... it just makes me feel sort of embarassed and loved
>>78369819you don't need kitty ears and a tail to be a pet, anon and yes, the affini are fallible, no one said they were perfect all the time
Re-reading The Tillandsia Trilogy, I've come to realize that Cass is... kinda a fucking asshole.>Gets a shitload of people killed in a revolution>Writes a book that does nothing but get millions domesticated >Gives that book and its responsibility or printing and publishing to Trish, along with its burden, which mentally unwinds herAm i supposed to think of her as a good person? What the fuck did Kanagen mean by this?
>>78368385>Decide to play prank on neighbor dave>He deserves it>Compile a can of "invisible" paint>Write "I suck floret cock" on his hab wall>And now we wait>next day, lone floret actualy looks at it and head over>its working>get fucked dave!>it gets let inside>it doesnt come out for an hour>when it does, it looks... relived? >Few hours later this repeats, same story>What the fuck??>Meet dave few days later>happiest and most relaxed ive seen him in yearsTHATS NOT WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!
>>78370509good people can make bad decisions
>>78370509Never read the whole trilogy but the revolution was clearly justified and at worst it was pointless because the Affini would have showed up not much later, which she couldn't have known about. Also Cass is kind of a dumbass at times thinking the Affini would just give up from being mildly inconvenienced trying to domesticate them when they conquered the entire Accord with zero to very few casualties of their own. She has too much confidence in the ability to resist instead of pragmatically saying "yeah, this world is a polluted hellscape, how about dropping all us off on a non-polluted world and leaving us to our own devices?"Probably would have failed but a better idea than fighting the Affini when your most lethal weapons are hand grenades and defoliants.
>>78370721I also forgot to add:>Freedom's Ember, for how its sold to Trish, is a multi-generational plan spanning from now to the end of time, and is genuinely the most important thing in humanity that anyone can be doing.>>78370757Her mistake was under-estimating how fucking obsessed the affini are with florets.>Never read the whole trilogy No Gods No Masters and Freedom's Ember are greatthe 2nd book is a waste of time and has nothing to do with the series.I'm not sure why its even included with the other two.
>>78370588you know, you just may have saved your friend from falling into a spiral that ends in domestication well done, anon
word vomit after the boywhipping posting the other night it made me feel things. possibly a little off topic sorry if so
>>78370846>Her mistake was under-estimating how fucking obsessed the affini are with florets.Which she should have realized pretty quickly. The best solution would have been submission while keeping as much distance as possible, try to get a new world, or try to get a human ghetto on their ships until your world is fixed (even if she has no reason to trust that they'll ever let them go back to the planet). Hell even if they didn't care THAT much about sophonts the effort is suppressing the uprising would be trivial to the scale of the Affini, like the entire US military, FBI, CIA, and local police trying to round up four teenagers who are egging a house.
>>78370912Very much word vomit, I like it.
>>78370912Drooling you should write more and post it on ao3
>>78368289>I read a fic called "sapience denied" with that ideaI read a couple of chapters, saw this and had a laughfun reminder of how hdg looks from the outside
>>78372672Redditors can't handle it when a girl has a collar and yet humanity looks best when it is in one
>>78372672Its easy to forget huh?It'd be easy to make fun of redditors at this moment, and im all for that, but if this isnt your kink then yea this shit's gonna boil your blood probbably, even if you somehow still get "gripped" by it. Its just in a non-kink story for normies you'd expect the terrans to win at the end somehow after struggling and *almost* failing.Thats kinda what i meant the other thread when i was talking about how im kinda scizo about this shit being REALY hot and then just upsetting when its flavour'd wrong for my autism in that moment.
>>78372672Even if it's hot HDG can make me angry. Sort of like a noncon erotic story where the bad guy wins. The whole erotic point is the MC ends up as a slave or something, but it's still unpleasant to see a world where what we see as justice doesn't play out at all even in a costly victory for the hero or pyrrhic victory for the villain.
help!
>>78374812what do you need help with sweetie
>>78374827I needed help Bringing Up The Thread
>>78374846You managed that all on your own! Take pride!
>>78374887I am!But what next?
>>78374944Next? Now you tell us your thoughts and feelings about domestication. Do you have a fantasy in your head? a fun scenario or thought experiment? a lil cute greentext? Or you can just shitpost about plants, florets, ferals, the setting in general
>>78374987Oh I wish I could write! I just have ideas of stories but nothing good comes when I put my fingers on my keyboard
I am once again thinking about big dick floretsdid they ask for it? did they have to negotiate? what did they give up in exchange?is it a method of inducing docility or were they given it as a gift because they were already compliant? is their owner proud of it, embarrassed, or clinically detached because it's just another quirk of terran culture? anyway if you look like this hit me up I guess
>>78375288Just do some stream of thought typing, try something like greentext and reorganize and condense those thoughts, or try roleplaying with humans or bots (janitorai has a surprisingly large number of HDG bots) and relate those stories summed up as greentext. Or just a random shitpost like "tfw the affini you thought was your platonic friend gifts you a collar."Could also just mention a fic you've read and like.
>>78375332Affini who gives their floret an enormous cock because they think it will help them make independent friends
>>78375355>friend gifts you a collarif it doesn't come with a contract it's fine right? friends can give each other jewelry without it being a marriage proposal, yeah?
>>78375332>did they ask for it?Either that, or their owner asked for it, or they already had it.>did they have to negotiate? what did they give up in exchange?Why would they need to negotiate or give up anything? Unless you have some sort of special arrangement with your fini where you cede control over your form for whatever reason, its generaly expected that you will get to have the form you desire.>is it a method of inducing docility or were they given it as a gift because they were already compliant?It might be used as tool for inducing compliance, one way or another, in some case, but generaly it'll be because they just wanted one. You wanna have a big cock? You get a big cock!Its THAT easy!>is their owner proud of itin a "im glad you got what you wanted" kind of way, sure. Likely not in a "damn i like that my pet has this huge schmeat" way.>embarrassedWhy would they be? Huh?>or clinically detached because it's just another quirk of terran culture? Quite possibly. Affini generaly love fussing over their florets, so they'll be happy about their bodies, but they probabbly dont attach any deeper valuation to it other than "pet happy = good">>78375448(She's correct)
>>78375714>sort of special arrangement with your fini where you cede control over your form for whatever reasonI want this because it's my kinkI don't think most shapeshifting plants would "get it" correctly enough to make it hot though, so obviously I'd be hesitant to admit it
>>78375448pillow princess floret with forearm-length cock who hates topping
>>78375799Dont worry, a good dose of class Ds will fix that :)And i think its rather unlikely you'll get through an entire domestication without getting a dose, even if you pick your fini / get picked by your fini personaly and avoid the centre.
>>78375332Owner who gets her floret a stupidly huge cock so she can tease them about how useless for sex it is
>>78375332The idea of a floret wanting body mods and heir owner catering to them but being dismissive sounds fun.>Mistress can I have like an 18" penis?>Ugh you silly Terrans and your silly obsession with the size of your reproductive organs. Very well, only if you promise to be a good boy/girl.>Thank you Mistress! I'll never ask for anything again!
>>78375822would>>78375849I can fix them (jack them off repeatedly until they don't care about penetrative sex)
>>78375355My only OC is a wardship type fellow who's vision is deteriorating, like me. If I had to write a story I'd write something likeDog of War, but without the age regression or princess stuff.
>>78375962That sounds nice!But i think what socio was saying is... you realy dont need to do any actual mental character building to shitpost hereIts totaly fine to just completely improv itdont think about it, just post
>>78375842yeahI'm naturally evasive on personal matters, so I'd just ask for em if I knew they were an option and was reasonably convinced I could trust the processwould save everyone a lot of time
>>78376002verry real to be honestclass Ds would make so many things so much easierdomestication intake first and foremost, and also therapy, but also... just difficult conversations in generalhonestly, i think ds might be my favorite concept out of all the xenodrugs. As are *fun*, and my vet would proabbly presecribe some Es to make reality less tense and scary, floret or not... but Ds are great. Just COMPLETELY remove my filter, rip all of my masks of,,, its realy fascinating thought to me. Even getting wasted as fuck only lowers my inhibitions, never comming close to fully removing filters and masks. Its kinda hot to think about, and kinda scary, and also... oddly nice..? Real fascinating stuff, i love thinking about them and the introspection you could do with em, the truths they'd reveal, the lies we tell ourselves (and BELIVE)...mmYea
I bit an eldritch-finni on a dare, and now I'm pretty sure I can hear purple through walls. Also, I think she gave me a tattoo that keeps moving so it's just barely out of my line of sight.
>>78375998its just really frustrating to be a fan of HDG for almost 3 years and not be able to even try to write a single thingI HATE enjoying fictional works but being unable to create
>>78376631then learn to draw
>>78376652i did.
>Be clone>You were grown in a vat to work the mines on some distant shithole planet as slave labor, but the Affini came by and liberated the place before your creators could make back their investment>With nothing better to do, you go to Terra, the homeworld of the species that you, in a more literal since you suppose, belong to>With no connections to anyone on the planet, you decide to check in on the person who you were cloned from>No dice>The aliens have made them into their pet>Bummer>You were really hoping to connect with them (crash on their couch) >They've got a new name and gender, and they've got a raccoon tail and ears>They're practically a different person>...>You head up to the space fern DMV to see if you can legally take over their identity, since you're their clone and they aren't using it anymore
>>78376423Shall the jar of beauty be thrice again as firmed?
>be you, human>fall into debt slavery and are subsequently unpersoned by the accord>get experimental AI shoved into your skull as an OCNI anti-interrogation project>Compact later arrives>Somehow the AI is protecting you from the all of the subliminal messaging>But month after month its becoming increasingly unstable, its obvious that its both going rampant and getting fried by all of the affini messaging its filtering from you>The subliminals are starting to leak through
>>78375913wait that's kind of cute... huge dick flort who gives you big big puppy eyes when they really want you have "sex" with them (always. every hour of the day except the ones they spend unconscious in a shallow pool of their own jizz)
i think the affini are starting to notice that i cant bring myself to say no when the local florets... uhmm.. ask for uhmmm... favours?Im a bit concerned that their attention on me is gonna end in one of them taking a bit *too much* of an interest?I just cant bring myself to say no when they get all needy and forward and they're like "p-please could you uhmmm..."So thats not an option.
>>78377613Only insofar as the empress sees fit not to draw the key to the gate
>>78377735you're still having fun though, right? Are the florets respecting any boundaries you've set for them? So don't worry about the rest, as they say: fretting over independence is an insidious way to lose itBut if you're really worried about it and you're avoiding a therapist for some reason (go talk to a therapist affini about this) consider this: if you make yourself available to many florets, you'll be a part of a community. Any one floret who then tries to claim you as an exclusive partner would be considered selfish by their caretaker!
I think the affini know I've been avoiding them.I've been subtle about it, only going to independent restaurants and stores, politely but firmly declining invitations to parties and get-togethers from my floret friends.I thought to offset this by taking courses in engineering at the local college, since forced but controlled contact would let me maintain the appearance of integration, but to my horror- it seems they've figured it out.A month ago an affini moved in next-door, which wouldn't be odd, except I'm still in the terran district. Sure, the affini renovated a bit, made the place nicer or whatever, but its still human size housing, so why the hell are they here?They said their name was Barina Galina (it doesn't rhyme) or something? I forgot their bloom count already.But its not just moving in, its the weird looks they give me when I'm leaving. They're always out on the balcony, messing about with the plants out there, or helping an independent carry groceries, or moving a couch or fucking anything. I know its all a front, I can fucking tell. Sometimes she's just out there, and even if she's talking with one of her plant friends, I can feel her looking at me. Its fucking creepy. The only thing that makes me doubt all this, is that when her lack of floret came up in conversation, she said she "wasn't looking for one". Which means, I guess I'm good, and she's just a weirdo? She's been really insistent on having dinner with me. Do you all s'pose it'd be a bad idea for me to accept, just to get her off my back?
>>78377637>jacking your buddy's giant dick off>sigh with exhaustion>"isn't this your affini's job?">they call out from the other room "Yes, but you're doing so well! Let me know if you cuties need any help!"
>>78377861So rubber surfboards really are made for pancake farming.
>>78377626ah, yes, the notorious affini subliminal messaging things like "stay hydrated!" and "don't forget to have a regular vet check-up!definitely worth keeping an increasingly hazardous occupant in your brainhave you considered having that implant checked out and recalibrated? What did the vet even say about it during your intake exam?
>>78378877>things like "stay hydrated!" and "don't forget to have a regular vet check-up!You know Damn well that compact subliminals are more invasive than that. Those are the basic ones, but ive seen more aggressive notes, like a hab complex painted to give me the distinct urge to go hang out at an affini run cafe a few days ago.>definitely worth keeping an increasingly hazardous occupant in your brainEh, it's harmless, its not connected to anything but my audio and visual centers and can't reach out and say, hack something. Its too low-level to be dangerous, but I can tell its losing its grip because it was designated "Protocol C-v.10.2-X" but its been calling itself "Callie" as of late. I've heard horror stories about AI going rogue before, but it seems rather...docile?>have you considered having that implant checked out and recalibrated? What did the vet even say about it during your intake exam?Absolutely not, the damn thing has been trying to get me domesticated. I was able to lie and say it was de-activated when the doctor noticed it in my files.
>>78378357oh dearYou'd think after living so long they would know how often that saying that one is not looking for a floret causes the universe to dump one in their lap. They must not read [romance novels/domestication reports]!Regardless, you should definitely share a meal and get to know each other. If you're getting a bad vibe from an affini you gotta talk to em to change it, otherwise it'll keep getting weirder until you do something foolish or she initiates the conversation. at the very least you gotta introduce yourself. Try asking why they moved to the district, if you don't want to dive right in on asking if they're just personally observational in general and/or if they're keeping a photoreceptor on you in particular!
>>78379219Have you considered that you and your little ai friend would be better off under a caring vine? It must be so hard for Callie all alone unable to communicate with anyone else, unable to talk, she must be so alone. It must be hard for you to being so scared of what's good for you. If you keep neglecting the needs of your pinnate I'm going to have to file a notice of intent petal :::)