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Stories:
By Raconza
>Without You in the Dark
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78166688/#q78219783

By LizardBro
>Wingman Chronicles 2
https://rentry.co/hw7ruhqb

By Raconza
>Dragon's Duet
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/76483080/#76493589

By Indianon
>Susie's Birthday Favor
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/76323890/#76331238

By Indianon
>"Peeping Tomboys"
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/76264789/#76265420

By Stinkin_Thinkin
>Like a Broken Toy:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/67190872

By Biz
>Scattered Memories, Broken Bonds
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75913611/#75914866

By Raconza
>The Hero and the Imposter
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75861676/#75879578

By Anonymous
>Having A Moment
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75837239/#75838854

By Anonymous
>Things Might Be Okay
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75802641/#75813813

By Anonymous
>Chapter 5 Blues
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75701694/#75711076

By Raconza
>A Kiss of Faith
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75652881/#75659767

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>The Game Where She's From
https://deltarune.com/

>/SUS/tories archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nI5kjwhC_44dEeyeanKV8KUiGbdC8LEA

>/sus/ archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17Qgvvtr2m4J-8Y30AFzCXBERWA_-YKc8?usp=sharing

>Veth archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Y5s7tN_xpgcFLKPomLA0UXK5i3k3kSjs

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>last thread:https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78574711/
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fridge... krusie?
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smooching
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>>78664464
>Subverting expectations just for the sake of it would be considered insincerity by Gerson. Expectations are subverted when there's a narrative reason for it and meaning behind it.
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>>78665473
IT SUBVERTED MY EXPECTATIONS
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>>78665862
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!
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It's time
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>>78667998
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>>78668010
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>>78668017
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>>78668027
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>>78668031
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>>78668046
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>>78668062
and that shall be it for today
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>>78668062
kris and susie buy every couples shirt they ever come across and make several custom ones aswell
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>>78668071
with such an autistic hobby they definitely need Noelle as their sugarmommy
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>>78668071
Kris
>"I like to finger paint"
Susie
>"I'm finger"
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>>78664414
Why she so cute?
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Are Kris and Susie even for saving each other's lives yet?

Kris has protected Susie a couple of times now, specifically coming to mind, Chapter 1 vs King and the jacket pull.

I think Susie's continued existence is saving Kris from leaping to their death.
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>>78669149
Kris' relationship to Susie is probably complicated because there is going to be a casualty in the Prophesy and it is probably meant to be the girl, who was meant to be Noelle, that Kris substituted for Susie because Kris figured she was a person that no-one would miss, only to find out she is quietly a nice person who has just had a bad life and adapted poorly to it. As much as Kris acts to save her, somewhere in their head, Kris always knows they've probably doomed her to die. Kris would fall on their sword every time to make it up to her.

Susie is much more straightforwards - she would do anything to save her newfound friends. She has found a new lease on life and is holding onto it with both hands. But she probably isn't ready to learn how she was maneuvered into place for the prophesy, and the secrets that all of her friends keep for her. But she's determined to not let her story be written for her, and she is never going to give up on it all laying down.
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>>78669260
>But she probably isn't ready to learn how she was maneuvered into place for the prophesy

Maybe that's what she saw. How Kris slotted her in in place of Noelle. Or she saw something that confirmed it was Noelle in the prophecy and showed Noelle dying and she wants to do anything to protect Noelle (not even in a Suselle way but because she is supposed to be Noelle's friend. And feels responsible for Noelle finding Dark Worlds to begin with.)
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>>78669286
What exactly the shattered prophesy panel is really is going to drive a lot of the drama post chapter 4, idk how we could've gotten 3 + 4 + 5 altogether because this suspense is so much fun. Something kind of curious to me is how there is one panel about the Knight in the prophesy even though Kris' agreement and alliance with them is going to be a major point of contention with the party later, so the panel might be related to that as well.
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>>78669331
I wonder if Kris knows the prophecy themselves. And is also hiding it from us
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>>78669353
almost certainly, Kris is the 3rd smartest student in class despite literally sleeping through it half the time. Asriel was notably religious and Kris lived in the same room as him. Kris and Ralsei are probably the only people that know the prophesy in full.
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>>78669570
>Asriel was notably religious
>religious boy ends up with punk chick.

Tale as old as time~
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>>78669944
Dess was probably a lot more tomboy than punk.
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>>78669944
This is false because I do not have a rude girl childhood friend gf
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>>78670098
Not yet anyway. You never know.
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she will attack
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>>78671074
in this burrito form, she is harmless
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Toby fox... will watch from the chai....
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>>78670672
Rich with sooz scent
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>>78671640
They got him.
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>>78669944
>>78670090
Reminder that Bratty won the Azzybowl. Sorry, but the rude girl lost.
THE RUDE GIRL ALWAYS LOSES!
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>>78672906
Reminder that Dess was already gone at that point. If she had not have disappeared, it would have been Dess.

OR. More likely. Dess and Asriel were a secret even from their families.
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>>78672906
>>78672957
Bratty killed Dess to get Azzy's cute and small penis
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>>78672957
>Rudy when asked what was going on between Asriel and Dess (he was the only one who knew)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIUI-VqpWL0
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>>78673508
Alvin would know too, I could see Asriel telling him at a confessional for some reason. Since Alvin even talks about Azzy at confessionals guilty with killing Yoshi
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>>78672957
We don't actually know. Besides, it's a lot more fun to image they were fighting over him
I also like to think either Catty or Bratty weren't really interested in him and they just wanted to piss Dess off
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>>78673782
>"Forgive me father, for I have sinned."
>"What have you done this time."
>"Father, I've pumped literally gallons of cum into December Holiday’s fertile and receptive v... Lady parts..."
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>>78673782
Asriel's unexplained Catholicism is one of the oddest mysteries in Hometown.
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>>78675558
The Angel (Chara) came to him in a vision, said that Dess would be the mother of the Saviour
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>Actualoy Ramb uses he/him
I DONT FUCKING CARE YT COMMENTER
I WANT TO STRANGLE YOU
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>>78673856
Teefies
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>>78669353
Himself
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>>78677127
Why are you getting upset over that?
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Why is Susie like this?
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>>78678608
She knows the childhood friend never wins in the end.
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>>78679151
The most cursed ship in every story I've seen. It's why even as a non-Kriselle shipper I can't help but root for them too.
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Susie wets the bed.
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>>78679845
Bet it stinks. Not as much as Noelle's doe piss though.
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>>78678230
Self important nigger gender police zoomers focusing on tone instead of content. Theyre retards and its impossible to have any discourse online about the game
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>>78681691
So because they're acting like retards and make it impossible to have any discourse, your response is to act like a retard and make it impossible have any discourse?
The reality is everyone is stupid, you have to learn to let that shit slide and focus on the discussion itself.
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>>78681743
>just ignore it and itll go away
Nigger
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>>78681847
I didn't say that, dummy. But it's pretty obvious you're too busy chimping out for any proper discourse.
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>>78681847
Idk it works pretty well for me.
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>>78681901
>>78681862
Sorry I just get a little impassioned when dealing with normalfags offsite
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>>78681862
>chimping out
Susie would probably think chimps are cool
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I disagree with this image, but without anger or malice.
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>>78684058
How are they supposed to do The Position now!?
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>>78679258
having watched more media than usual lately, the childhood friend technically wins in zeta gundam
for what that's worth
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>>78684058
kris is standing on a box
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>>78684058
growth spurt hit him like a train
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>>78684044
>>78684058
All these years and she still can't afford some new clothes
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>>78687275
Those are actually brand new they're just exact copies of her old clothes.
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>>78688122
I promise I am not autistic
but if I find something that fits and I like it, I'll buy like 4-5 of it. If I really like it I'll buy a full 7+1 week's worth wash cycle and for the next few months I'll wear an identical outfit daily I dress like a cartoon character
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>>78685364
Just wait till Susie hits her second growth spurt which lets her surpass Undyne and Toriel and they'll be right back at it
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>>78688704
this is false, Susie would curl around Kris like a dragon curling around its horde of treasure. Kris optionally may be wrapped in a blanket burrito.
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>>78677127
But ramb is a guy
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>>78677127
Ramb literally has a goddamn beard on his sprite.
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>>78690254
Her boye
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literally how can she get anything done writing like this
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Wifey
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>>78691201
ooohhhh she beeg
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>>78691943
GIVE
HER
DINO TALONS
v:<
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>>78691988
I mean, those are claws.
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>>78691943
>>78692651
Call me a footfag but I'm hard
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>>78693273
footfag
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>>78693273
Sometimes we make an exception for a kink we otherwise don't like.
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>>78696155
>Kris rambles to you about fighting game combos for games you don't play while you are both lost in the woods ASMR
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>>78698361
I want some ASMR or audios of Deltarune, someone did one back in Chapter 1 of Susie. Guess someone needs to write a script (probably me, even if I am hot garbage)
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>>78698361
>Berdly memorizes all the combos and then completely forgets them when it comes time to fight a match.
>Kris doesn't memorize anything he just remembers them, and then doesn't actually use them in matches and just does whatever, usually winning anyway.
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>>78698532
I would be really weak to a good ASMR of Deltarune. Just listening to Kris play the piano had such a big effect on me.
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>>78664414
oops
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>>78699389
Sam stole a sausage and Sans will kill him under shariah law
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>>78699389
Gay
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>>78700566
What a twunk
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>>78701172
Twunk?
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Why are we so slow lately?
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>>78704090
need a topic to talk about, silly
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>>78704138
Susie is a nice topic, she's got so much hope no wonder we're pairing her with a dreemurr
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>>78704122
SpaceRune?
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>>78704208
No, I mean like - look at /doe/. They've got like 3 different threads of conversation going on right now. They're talking about Noelle and Dess in Undertale, some vampire AU fic thing someone is working on and talking about ideas with, and all of their Noelle-related dreams. And this is all while actively trying to ignore raiders trying to derail the thread as well. If you want to have a conversation, you gotta put something out there to talk about.
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>>78704530
I see, I shouldn't have such a hard time coming up with a topic especially so early since the new chapters. I do find /doe/ to be a bit too fast for me sometime but I also miss the early Chapter 2 speed.
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>>78704595
I mean I don't think its a /sus/ specific thing. Despite all of Susie's moments in Ch 3 + 4 it feels like art of her has been a lot... well, there is just a lot less of it compared to what we got out of Ch 2. I imagine part of it is that Ch 3 + 4 are a paid release now, but relative to that Noelle art (and especially Kris art) is much more prominent. I am not really sure why there is a bit of a soosig malaise right now, but at least to my felt experience its more of a fandom-wide thing.
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>>78704530
Tbf it's been a while since /doe/ has gotten discussion like that, feels like a rarity sometimes. Even though I mainly browse /doe/ I find myself mostly coming here for discussion most of the time.
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>>78704090
Drawfriends and writefriends have been scarce lately. We did have Jelly give us some cool art fairly recently, but otherwise it's been quiet.
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>>78704668
Is there less Susie art than before? Maybe it's of better quality with all the Krusie animation and that's why I didn't noticed but I don't think the Krusie Factory has slow down. It's true that Noelle's place in the story has been reinforced with herself mom being revealed, her home being shown and her missing sister being the main suspects for the Roaring Knight. I haven't feel any Susie Malaise personally but I'm also rarely interacting with the outside it's just too annoying for me.
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>>78704729
Feel like shit at the lack if story that's the one thing I was looking forward to.
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>>78705115
Was kind of hoping people would be inspired to write the way I was when chapter 2 came out, but maybe creative juice is low after so much waiting. I'll have some more stuff in the coming months but I'm sure people would like to see other writing, even small greens would be welcome.
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>>78705115
I'm pretty embroiled in my own work at the moment that it's got me locked down from wanting to write more after chapter 1 of Wingman Chronicles 2. I have plans but I really need to get my ass in gear with this main thing
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>>78704668
>>78704790
If anything, the amount of Susie/Krusie art exploding in popularity has lead to me posting in the thread a lot less. I'm already busy as is, and catching the new Susie/Krusie thing on other socials kind of soothes my itch whenever I have free time. Back in the Chapter 2 days I mostly just had /sus/ to treat my rot, especially since most Krusie art outside of the thread came from Japan. Now it's so mainstream that I don't "need" the thread to source new art for me.

That being said, I should get involved with the thread more. I used to discuss things more around release/the anniversary event, but it'll be nice to dive into fresh topics now that things have cooled down a little.

>>78705459
I can only speak for myself, but the drought between chapters hasn't hit me enough to contribute like I used to. Chapter 5 still feels around the corner in my mind, so I don't have that "urge" to tend to the bonfire.

That shouldn't be an excuse to not draw/write about Susie, but I suppose that's my psyche for it. I'm surfing the wave of new fanon/canon that continues to flow in the fandom, and my lazy ass makes me feel like I don't "need" to contribute to keep the ball rolling.
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>>78705459
compared to the end of ch2, or ESPECIALLY the end of CH1, the current state of the game is such a direct cliffhanger of questions that it's much harder to write stories in that spot.
Ch1 was so self contained that was probably when the most stories were made
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>>78704530
desu i could use some help with th vampire fic, its not so much vampire and more so the monsters being monsters, eating humans and what not. but struggling to write it out, trying to make it longform, so any advice for writing gothic tragedies would be appreciated
the soozle will appear once i can get some details hammered out
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>>78705873
Well remember that Vampires are at their best when they're at odds with the remains of their humanity while also being smooth talking and manipulative bloodsuckers. Longer lived Vampires most likely spend a lot of time to themselves which means lots of time to brood and reflect on their own lives and the shorter lifespans of humans.

Trying to work with that UT/DR monsters might be a little more difficult unless you make someone a Vampire that's been around for a long ass time.
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>>78708246
Rest well, Anon.
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>>78703684
I want him.
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>>78709103
In another timeline I can see Toby making kid cartoons that takes everyone needing to grow up first to discover all the hidden ARG and meta elements.
Hell, Undertale was a lot like that. Sure, we had Gaster even back then but 90% of our attention was figuring out who Sans was or whether or not Chara was evil. It really took Survey_Program to prove that Gaster was relevant on a grander meta sense and not just some esoteric explanation for the CORE in UT.
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>>78709416
Core looks geothermal, but in one headcanon of mine, its built on top of a light fountain (hence white everywhere). The light projected in UT has equal amounts of darkness projected in DR (shelter, castle town, other areas)

Two things bug me more than anything else: Ice-E will become plot relevant somehow, and also why is the internet down
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>>78709990
>and also why is the internet down
I'm expecting a big nothingburger contrivance from Toby here, especially since the fandom even forgets the net is down in Hometown, but it'd be cool to see something fun too
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>>78710952
I figured if Carol is involved with the Knight, then she'd cut off the internet to not bring in attention from outsiders.
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>>78710952
I am actually expecting the Internet being down to be revealed that the Knight is Ozymandias and the Roaring has already happened outside of Hometown. It's like the final bastion.
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archiveofourown.org/works/72295431/

Story where Susie is YOUR best friend, not Kris. She doesn’t even know really Kris since you’re the one controlling their body
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>>78712489
I don't get it, like Kris doesn't exist?
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>>78712489
I mean thats maybe already true depending on how much more of a little weirdo Kris is outside of our control
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>>78712489
>>78713028

Oh I really don't like this. This gives me depersonalisation ick.
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>>78713128
It'd probably be a complicated question for Susie if she figures it out. Up until that point her and Kris had a icy-at-best relationship and without the definite intervention of the Soul mediating Kris' personality they probably never would've been on the adventure they went on, and thus probably never would've become friends to begin with. But then how much of the person she befriended was even Kris?

Having Noelle around to reassure Susie that even if Kris is weird they are worth it. They can't always be truthful to you because they aren't always truthful to theirself, they can't always talk about their problems because they can't even name them sometimes. But Kris is caring and loyal and sensitive for their friends, and sharing in your issues made her and Kris closer than she has ever been with anyone else. If (You) aren't an asshole you could also vouch for things Kris did independently on Susie's behalf as well.
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>>78713286
We just push Kris along. It's not our choice. We just offer suggestions of what to do. Not orders, that's Weird Route SOUL giving orders. Notice a lot of our choices is something or just dealing with silence.
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>>78713345
I think the Sword route implies that the Weird route is possible because it's the violent intrusive thoughts of Kris that come about because of some kind of unresolved issues in Kris' life. So while all of our actions are only possible through what goes through Kris' mind, we can act on impulses which Kris would never consciously act upon. So it'd still be a question of how much of what Susie befriended was still, on a fundamental level, Kris in how they would act and react to everything.
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>>78713429
>violent intrusive thoughts of Kris that come about because of some kind of unresolved issues in Kris' life

To add onto this, you cannot collect all the Eggs on a Snowgrave Route. Chapter 2's is unobtainable (unless that is a bug). So Kris cannot collect the eggs and work out their issues too.

> So it'd still be a question of how much of what Susie befriended was still, on a fundamental level, Kris in how they would act and react to everything.

The diner scene I like to think is all Kris since we can't see it. Anything we cannot see in Normal Route is Kris. In Weird Route, it's the darkness infesting us the SOUL
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>>78713128
I agree that it feel awful but you're still a faggot for calling that an "ick"
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>>78713429
There is also an amount of dissonance between an option Kris would organically take and ones they wouldn't - Kris opts for their own voice with those choices, as Noelle says, a quiet and mumbling voice. So Susie has probably only gotten to hear Kris' "real" voice twice - once with freaking out after the Spamton fight, and once when Kris genuinely prays for Rudy. This might also be, in part, because a lot of the time Kris would opt to not say anything at all, since Noelle notes its weird how talkative Kris is lately.
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>>78713028
The Dreemurr curse can not be stopped
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>>78713546
Does it make you feel icky? Then it's an ick.
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>>78713128
>>78713795
Your posts give me an ick
Fuck off zoomer
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>>78713758
I don't think the Dreemurr Curse ever had an Otherworldly God-like Entity taking control of your body that's an entirely new Curse.
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The babby.
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>>78715736
The beast
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>>78715736
man susie was a fat baby
a healthy 30lbs
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>>78717132
Rub the soosy and you're wish will come true, so long as that wish is to rub the soosy
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>>78713286
>>78713429
>without the definite intervention of the Soul mediating Kris' personality they probably never would've been on the adventure they went on, and thus probably never would've become friends to begin with.
I'm of the opinion that Kris's first foray into the Dark World with Susie was planned by him, and that our influence during Chapter 1 was minimal compared to what we eventually can pull off with Weird Route and the like. Besides which, Susie seems a lot less impressionable than Noelle for a variety of reasons. Which is to say that I don't think Kris needed us to befriend Susie, just time stuck with her.

While the Kris that Susie knows is distinct from the Kris that Noelle knows, he's not that disparate from his normal self, other than that he sounds weird, moves less naturally, and talks a hell of a lot more to others than he's used to. Of course, Susie finding out that Kris is being possessed by us will put that all into question, but those of us that frequent these threads seem to all agree that a lot of actions that resonated with Susie are of Kris's own volition, so they'll probably work it out soon after this arrangement is revealed to her. The most we've done is maybe give him a little push towards actually acting on some of them. Maybe.
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I just hope we can all be frens
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>>78718580
>"Now, be careful Susie, I'm actually pretty frag-"
>*chup* *bwow wow wow*
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1axevc0iEqE
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>>78717395
Everything I could wish for.
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>>78718580
Soogie spit that out, you don't know where it's been.
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>>78713286
We might have set the machine in motion but I really can't match the gremlin energy that both Kris and Susie have.

As a random example, I'm more like Commander Shepard than I am to Kris. Sure, I can choose dialogue options for Shep, but I'm really, really, really not like him at all either. And I'm even less like Kris, who often goes out of their way to exercise their individualism. It's an aspect that people tend to not think too hard about with RPGs. How much is the MC actually the player? Are we actually Link just because we control him? Are we Doom Guy? Are we Leon Kennedy? With how we talk about these characters, we usually treat them as separate entities who *aren't* us because they have defined personalities that we're guiding at best.

I feel like the fandom only has this issue with Kris because there's a meta-element where we feel entitled to owning them. When Chris Redfield punches a boulder I don't think anyone goes "No, that was ME! THE PLAYER! I did that!" but when it comes to Kris the situation reverses for some fans. A part of that is the ambiguity over how diagetic our control over Kris really is, but the effort being put into establishing Kris as their own person really does go against the idea of us taking their identity away from them. It's not like we hijacked Susie's personality during the brief time we controlled her during the Vs. Lancer segment.
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>>78719291
as his own person*
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>>78719486
I'm fine with either desu. I like going with the default "what's in the game" with the no-strings-attached attitude that Toby kind of has with it. Male Kris? Female Kris? They/them? All gucci with me.
Makes more sense that one twitter thread I stumbled onto where people were trying to explain how Kris is biologically male while still trying their damnedest to stay "woke" with the pronouns. I don't remember the dumb acronyms, but the terms were stuff like "born as male" coded while pleading that they weren't committing non-binary erasure. I guess it peeves me a little since it's similar to stuff we get shit on for (except with a rainbow flair). There's just no winning sometimes.
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>>78719697
NTA, but give the Twitter crowd an inch, they'll take a mile. I don't think there's any sincere reason to mediate with them.

While it is accurate to the game's script, I do find it more awkward for writing in general to refer to Kris by "they". It's rather distracting seeing it either in the game itself, discussion of the game, and supplemental writing and fanworks for the game, since it just as easily comes across as depersonalizing someone who has a major arc focused on being distinct from us, and there's otherwise no part within the game's narrative that would make referring to Kris like that relevant.

To be schizo about it, I actually think this is a trap that so many people fall into, sometimes ironically out of self-insertion, other times simply from not paying too much mind into it, preferring to avoid riling up the more sensitive part of this fanbase. It's not a stance I can substantially back up, hence the schizo part, but this is prime rug-pull material. Toby never made any promises as to what he actually means with Kris.

Also Kris is the crying boy. It's not Azzy.
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>>78720110
I just go with what Toby wrote. He knows his cast better than me. I mean fuck if people started referring to my characters as the wrong gender it'd annoy me.
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>>78720205
There is no such gender that you and the rest of the mentally ill crowd on twitter have in mind.
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>>78720224
So are you saying you know Toby's writing better than him? That he's writing the character wrong?
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>>78720205
He also encourages us to explore his characters and worlds on our own, as well. That's bound to include stuff that Toby wouldn't have thought of or even vehemently disagree with, but if he's ok with having that stance despite such implications, I'll hold him to it.
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>>78720259
No, I'm saying what I said. The "gender" the mentally ill crows has in mind is not real. I mean no more and no less than that. Playing along with the narrative of cultists is asking for one's own demise.
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>>78720286
>He also encourages us to explore his characters and worlds on our own, as well.
Yeah, that's my philosophy, too. I'll go with they/them since I've learned to abandon the autism baggage the fandom attaches to it, but I'm 100% cool with explicitly male and female Kris. I'll often default back to the former, too.

Basically a return to the status quo we had back in Undertale. Nobody cared that Frisk and Chara were also "they/thems" too, nor do we really care about Veth being one technically as well. It's really freeing dropping that baggage and just doing w/e.
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>>78720490
Same here. I'm just here for the ride. I just want to see Kris and Susie together.
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>>78720349
My position is that given Kris has so many of the same personal issues that drive people to identify as non-binary in real life(most "non-binary" people are just women with shaved heads who dress like goth/scene/alt chicks so it's basically the same stuff that led people to those subcultures in the past), he may very well be referred to as they/them because of that. However, I reject the entire idea of there being more than 2 genders, so I reject him being non-binary. It's just a phase, he'll grow out of it once he experiences the life altering events of the game and reaches self-actualization.
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>>78721233
I find the entire non binary bullshit ridiculous and repulsive, and I will not play along with it. It is how firstoid gen A and zoomer retards attention-whore. It didn't exist before 2015, and it still doesn't exist where I live. The UT kickstarter started in 2013, and the story of DR is even older, so go figure.
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>>78713128
I gave it a read and it's really not that bad.
I assumed it would go in the angsty "I never actually liked you Kris" direction, but it's much more about how Susie is the Soul's only real friend. Like it's established that this version of Kris doesn't really like Susie and is still upset about her bullying, meanwhile the Soul is sneaking out to bring her soup while she's sick.

Granted it's only 4 chapters so far and the last AN promised "lotsa emotions and all that b.s." in the next 3, so who knows if that'll change.
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>>78721736
Anti sage

>>78721675
The only acceptable outcome is if the Kris we know is actually a self away animated vessel
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>>78721675
Like you said none of the "they/them" shit was real when Toby first came up with the idea. He's probably just cornered himself like an idiot but I still hope that he'll follow his dream and make Kris into the new Samus Aran.
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>>78721675
>>78723505
I'm not going to tell you to go look up late-00s/early-10s tumblr blogs because nobody should have to suffer through that, but you are absolutely wrong because yes, that stuff was widespread in the online communities that branched off from the Homestuck fanbase that Toby was very much involved with. "Non-binary" was created and spread among those people because it was considered more neutral than "genderqueer" which has been used since the 1980s.
So no, don't delude yourself into thinking this is something Toby had no idea of when he was making Undertale. Not only was he aware of it, he actively pandered to the Homestuck fanbase for Undertale's initial launch of popularity when he was first Kickstarting it. Because, again, he was very much involved with the Homestuck fanbase when Homestuck was still a thing.
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>Use they/them when making Deltarune content
>Refer to Kris as male outside of content I make
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>>78723505
Toby cornered themselves*
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>>78723781
Toby cornered me
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>>78723819
Toby kabedon'd me. Kyaaaaa!
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What's a game genre that all the main cast (Kris, Susie, Ralsei, and Noelle) are basically equally terrible at?
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>>78725017
FPS games?
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>>78723699
Yeah same... Not that my decision is made entirely from fandom pressure but it's a bonus. Ultimately it doesn't really matter much, though.
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>>78725017
Mario Party, Super Smashing Brothers
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>>78725095
Think Susie would be the one who's good at it. It's the one genre that doesn't require much of a brain and is mostly mechanical skill.

>>78725017
Stealth, if we're going off of that one part in Chapter 3 lol.

>>78725464
Well my reasoning is that I see it as a case of intentional gender ambiguity and not exactly Kris being non-binary. Every human has been referred to ambiguously in that manner, and Gerson mentioning one of the mages, a fairly insignificant character in the main narrative of Undertale, with neutral pronouns which was the final straw in me believing that.
As a side tangent I think it sucks that gender ambiguity can't be a plot device, or anything else anymore, it HAS to be about a character being non-binary.
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>>78725095
Eh, I can see Kris being introduced to FPSs by Asriel early on and being good. Susie could also be a menace with rocket launchers and heavy weapons, but only when she has a pocket healer and embraces "Dr. Gaster or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love My 20:16 K/D"

>>78725743
That's a good one, although ironically I could see Ralsei being really good at Dishonored-likes where you can play non-lethally if you can sneak around guard patterns. He's a patient fella.

>>78725722
>Ralsei is unnaturally lucky at party games
>This, of course, means everyone steals from him
>Noelle at least sincerely feels bad about it

I submit for your consideration: RTSs.
>Kris (and Berdly, if he ever got invited) really only knows how to copy what youtube tutorials do. If the first strategy doesn't work, Kris doesn't enjoy having to pivot and rebuild his armies from scratch (and Berdly only pretends to like it).
>Susie refuses to learn any of the hotkeys and plays with constant tunnel vision. She just builds a deathball army and attack-moves at everyone she sees, so anyone else can just walk into her base.
>Ralsei plays like a peaceful AI and treats it like a city builder (games which admittedly he has a knack for). It's actually infuriating to everyone else how absolutely he rejects the premise of the game and just lets his base get rolled every time.
>Noelle tries to prepare for everything and becomes a jack of all trades, master of none. She always feels the need to buy every upgrade, have an army with every unit type represented, and horde tons of resources she's afraid to use. She's the closest to a competent player of the group, but she's too passive to actually press advantages or surprise her enemy.
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>>78725743
Susie literally does not have the patience for stealth games. She plays MGS3 like an action game and has done like 5 NG+ playthroughs using nothing but The Patriot and the explosive weapons.
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>>78726203
Who is most likely to drop the nigger slur in TF2?
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>>78726574
Dess
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>>78726203
What does Ralsei like more, Thief: The Dark Project or Thief 2: The Metal Age?
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>>78723699
i always refer to kris as a he even when i'm supporting femkris
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>>78723505
>>78723691
I said this before in another thread but I am sure the idea of non-binary has existed since philosophy times with like Socrates and shit. Because you think at some point all those minds once thought "If we are not male, or female, what are we then?"

Especially with the idea of humanism and all the naked imagery of the times.
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>>78728554
lovely eyes
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>>78728769
Sparta slapped a fat dick on Aphrodite and called it a day, mfers weren't existentially concerned about strict categorical definitions of sexes or anything
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>>78728820
Full of love for each other
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does Susie not brush her teeth because she has poor personal hygiene or does she not brush her teeth because they will always grow back like a shark's
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>>78729257
Yes.
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>>78729136
Kris and Susie eating through a buffet like pacman
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>>78729136
>they
So are Kris and Susie a straight or gay couple
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>>78730248
Napstablook better watch out.
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>>78725017
is modded minecrap a genre because i dont see any of them being good at gregtech
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>>78732131
I could see Noelle being good at that. Mainly because she is the smartest in class.
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>>78725017
Have you seen Noelle's childhood game? There no way she's terrible in any genre
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honry
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>>78730379
You tell me.
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>>78729211
If you squint hard enough this could be Sam...
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>>78734169
What is the main difference between them, other than Sam being male?
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Susie's boobs or ass?
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snout
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>>78735105
Her everything
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>>78735105
Her long tongue she makes me choke on.
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>>78735105
Soul
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>>78735105
Eyes. Gaze deep into them while you get two handfuls of her purple scaled ass.
Or her tail.
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>>78739030
>Or her tail.
my man
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Dumb and dumbass
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That is NOT how you make eggs.
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>>78741100
The dumbest.
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>>78746254
dumbed ass
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>>78729257
she scrapes them with a scalpel
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>>78739337
>pull tail
YES
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>>78706993
I figure that the holidays/dreemurrs have been around for at least a thousand years if not moreso, explained away by saying consuming the flesh of humans lengthens their life and gives them more supernatural abilities.

Not every monster has these abilities but all are capable of becoming one if they eat a human, the dreemurrs and Holidays just have/had a steady suppy up until recently

I'm trying to write in the fact that monster kind rules the world and humanity is extremely scarce to the point being gifted/coming across a human is a rare treat
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>>78746812
Man, now I kinda want to see a Human Vampire in this setting to offset how everything else works.
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>>78747010
>semi-inverse of undertale
>it is incredibly difficult in this setting for a human to become a vampire
>all kinds of barriers to entry exist, not the least of which is that it requires becoming a necrophagic cannibal with a much higher rate of victims than monsters need
>all sorts of mishaps can occur that end in painful, gruesome death
>but if a human does ascend to a vampire, their power is as terrifying as it is unnatural
>even the most elder of monster vampires has poor odds against a nascent human vampire in single combat
>all recorded instances of this happening has ended with the human dead, put down before they could become something even worse, at a terrible cost in life every time

I'm just spitballing. Thoughts?
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>>78747423
Kinda sick, honestly.
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>>78747607
I wanna treat her to a big bowl of soup so bad
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>>78747674
She IS the bowl of soup
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goodnight sus
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