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We Need To Talk Edition

Talk about all things FVN here: Gay, straight, bara, twink, femboy, Western, Japanese, human MC, anthro MC - you name it.

>Pastebin
https://rentry.org/furryvn
>What is this pastebin?
This pastebin serves as a hub for compiling FVNs that we think are worth playing (or at least worth keeping an eye on) into lists.
>Who can contribute to the pastebin?
Anyone!

Last thread:
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78750816
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Trisha is the best Camp Ash Route and it sucks that they establish there can't be interspecies breeding because a AU where Sydney and Carl are siblings would be funny.
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>>79225013
So what did you expect to happen making the thread a week early? I don't mind trying to figure out the next steps, but this could have waited.
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>>79225013
Also the "other" previous thread
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/79146280
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>>79225013
Should have waited for next week but bump nevertheless.
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Should this even be a thing anymore, thread didn’t even make it to 100 on its designated week? I’m not trying to stir shit I think this is a conversation that needs to be had.
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RAPE RAPE RAPE
RAPE YOUR BRAINS
THE CYCLE DOES NOT END UNTIL YOU PLAY THIS GAME
https://kairaiken.itch.io/reconnected
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>>79230989
calling it now there will be a 3-way option with Eco and those 2
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>>79230989
Why does the black guy have black sclera in the banner but white in the screenshot? Which one is canon? (black sclera's hotter btw).
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>>79233024
Lore and mindfuckery reasons, give it a read!
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bump
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bump
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>>79235562
>>79236964
Why
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I want to bitch about Adastra, but I don't remember enough about it to do it properly, and I don't want to reread it. Help.
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>>79237646
Just do it improperly then.
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>>79240236
I'll do you improperly
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>>79230989
Already did, i think it been getting a lot of traction this last week though, i guess that last update really put it in the spotlight for a lot of people.
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>>79240643
i'd vore his dick
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>>79242015
It is basically just a Disco and the feature is a vibrating dance floor, but the game definitely leans into Vore considering that "Teehee" moment and how some of the schizo scenes are being played. The dev is definitely a Vorefag.
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Millions will learn Japanese and read Torahiko's fanroute untranslated.
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>>79243519
But why untranslated when it's translated..?
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>>79243531
Because it's the JOP lifestyle... Aside from that, I've heard that the translation isn't very good anyways.
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>>79243697
none of mreonatsu is good
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>>79243519
Millions will read the Sneed version.
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I thought this general was dead? Why make a thread on an off week?
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Well, since this is supposed to be a metathread about /fvn/'s present condition: Why not just migrate to furrygames or make /fvn/ once-a-month thread at this point?
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Hot take: it was the every other week thing that kinda killed it, only Autists kept track on if it was an on or off week, then people started bitching about threads being made too early or too late and being too fast or to slow, just go back to weekly and if the thread dies early before bump count it dies until net Friday and if bump count is reached without excessive bumping due discussion before Monday make a consecutive one. making it once a month like >>79248934 would just end up making the thread even less active because peoole won''t check and be even more anal about "off-week" stuff because it will be even harder for casual posters (IE: Sane people who don't coombrain 24/7 and mark their calendar for a 4chan thread) to know if a thread is going to be be up or not. the every other week was and attempt to just to throw off bad actors anyway, and at that point i think we can conclude that didn't work, so why not go back to weekly see if it works for a couple of weeks or not, with the latter seeming more likely because people jumped ship to Furry Games.

>>79248934
The general idea of Furry Games was to do Non-VN stuff, so a migration could possibly start stomping on the toes of the anons (Not necessarily an majority, but some anons have posted that they dislike when it happens in the past) who wanna discuss Games and not VNs and especially don't wanna discuss Morenatsu/Echo/The Usual Suspects or stuff that has 0 interactivity. Basically "Don't hostile takeover a thread" netiquette.
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I guess it's time to try to get something productive out of this thread. Our choices are as I see it are as follows: A. Keep things as they are. B. Change the thread times. C. Go off-site. or D. Try to merge with /furrygames/. All choices have pros and cons. Just so long as we mostly agree on what we do would be the main thing.

>>79249685
The every other week was to evade bad actors and to try to have more to talk about, but at this point I kind of agree that it didn't really work and the ones keeping track of it were people both passionate about the topic and the shitposters. It most likely creates a bad look when someone new shows up and sees a whole bunch of people yelling about namefags and drama. As for the furry games move I wish it could be simple but some people have issues with /fvn/. It isn't like they hate talking about VNs they more don't like people they view as from /fvn/. I have a feeling a few of them would fan the flames of shitposting about Morenatsu and Echo. I would also not like having to feel like I would have to be walking on eggshells all the time when it came to some FVNs I loved. If they were being fair they shouldn't hate every single poster from /fvn/ just the shitposters. But there have been a few campaigns to smear Morenatsu and Echo posting and that lets the shitposters feed into themselves. The only real point that has any bite might be that we are repetiive, but it isn't like Furry Games only talks about new and unique things all the time. We could also help with activity because the thread does have a lot of slow moments and has died from the lack of bumps before, but no one seems to call it out or make it a big deal like it was forced upon us to make it one. I have no issues with becoming a part of furry games overall. I mean I already post there sometimes, but keep my head down a bit. I just wish i didn't have to without worrying about someone going off because I really don't want to start drama.
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>>79249685
There have also been people that had an idea for a post they would make in the next thread but by the time the next thread was actually up they forgot what they were going to talk about. I won't scavenge through the archives for proof but trust me bro there have been a few people that shared this exact experience. Making the threads even less frequent would make this phenomenon more notorious. I'm not saying that as an argument in favor for nor against completely changing the meta of the thread, I'm just throwing my two cents in
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>>79249685
>being too fast or too slow
I'm gonna say that the thread isn't too slow for it's own sake but it IS too slow for 4chan. The threads being too slow wouldn't have been an issue if they didn't have to be kept alive from reaching page 10 and dying. /fvn/ HAS to stay at a certain PPH because otherwise it needs to be on life support and bumped even if there isn't really anything to say. Moving to EightCh@n (or a different altchan if it allows furfaggotry) would solve the issue of having to keep the thread from dying too early and as a result clean up any future threads of meaningless image posts with no text and posts with only "bump" written on them (>>79235562 >>79236964). Either that or the general activity of the thread has to go up.
/fvn/'s slow PPH isn't a cultural problem imposed by the posters, it's a mechanical problem imposed by how 4chan functions as a website.
>>79250407
>I would also not like having to feel like I would have to be walking on eggshells all the time when it came to some FVNs I loved
A year ago the only thing that I really posted about/replied to was Echo because I picked up the fvn genre pretty recently at the time (back in 2023 i think) and it was the only fvn that I read till completion really. But nowadays I feel hesitant to even mention it because I feel like I'm gonna get dogpiled for it. I'm assuming it would be hard for new posters to get into the thread if the environment appears to be hostile towards the game that 99% of newcomers to the genre pick up as their first.
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How does one practice "media literacy"? I already know how to read.
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>>79250407
>C. Go off-site.
We could start a thread in the games board on kiwifarms and migrate there. Thoughts?
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>>79251077
>/fvn/'s slow PPH isn't a cultural problem imposed by the posters, it's a mechanical problem imposed by how 4chan functions as a website.
This is the very important thing to keep in mind. It doesn't matter how fast or slow the thread is it just needs to be faster than a board that has inconsistent speed because of spammers and just threads getting dumped here. Wanting speed for speed's sake isn't really helpful, but we need to have a minimal amount of posts or the thread dies.

>nowadays I feel hesitant to even mention it because I feel like I'm gonna get dogpiled for it. I'm assuming it would be hard for new posters to get into the thread if the environment appears to be hostile towards the game that 99% of newcomers to the genre pick up as their first.
Echo and Morenatsu are important to the field of FVNs and a lot of people's first experience with them. People to this day can talk endlessly about things even older than both of them. Threads should try to court posters that want to talk passionately about the topic. Those that go to a thread about a topic and start kicking and screaming that the thread already talked about them are not really helping things. The best cure for that "problem" is to talk about something else. This thread is how I learned about multiple new VNs I now eagerly track updates on. So it does work even if talking about older VNs is just a safe topic most people can use to keep the ball rolling sometimes. I'm always happy to hear about someone's first time playing Morenatsu or Echo. It just feels like a lot of people from furry games left from /fvn/ because they were scorned for some reason.or another. That is the biggest reason for keeping this thread separate. I just want to talk about FVNs without feeling like I'm causing a scene. Something I'm sure a lot of people can relate to.
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>>79249685
>making it once a month like (You) would just end up making the thread even less active because peoole won''t check and be even more anal about "off-week" stuff because it will be even harder for casual posters (IE: Sane people who don't coombrain 24/7 and mark their calendar for a 4chan thread)
Yeah, now that I think about, once a month would be retarded lol. You're weekly suggestions seems reasonable.
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>>79255088
LOL!
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I remember being 16 when I first read Morenatsu way back when, digging through old furry image boards like Kemonononi. I miss that youth and mental peace.
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>>79251748
We already have 8 chan. moe/trash/res/40805. html#footer
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>>79258150
I don't think he was seriously suggesting such a bad idea. The 8 would most likely be the place we moved to if we did anyways.
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>10
Give it up. /fvn/ is dead fr fr
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>>79259581
Then why bump it?
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so do you guys wanna do that fvn game jam or nah
nothing big just like a 2 or 3 week jam
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>>79260999
What game jam?
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>>79260999
>>79261275
Seconding, what jam? I'd join, but I draw/paint way too slow lol
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>>79261275
>>79261515
One or two /furrygames/ ago i proposed the idea of fvn doing a small jam to drum up activity in the off season and bring in new posters
nothing organized yet but it was just seeing if people there who were from here would be on board and talking about potential pitfalls
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>>79261739
Not a bad idea just currently it would be hard to get a collaborative effort for one FVN to be made even if it was short.
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>>79261877
well usually the thing with jams is that you make a bunch of small games with a bunch of teams. its not really about making a finished game as much as its about creating concepts and assembling them just enough that the audience can get it
we probably don't have the posters for a bunch of teams of just us but i figure other trash threads might be willing to chip in
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>>79262231
Couldn't hurt to try if people are up for it.
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>demonic possessions are now "canon" in ExaC
>if you decide to save everyone, MC is the one sealed with the mark of the goat for the rest of the route
>you can cuck Maria if MC is marked
Nice update desu.
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>>79262376
They made a guest character have a plot in the game? What the fuck is going on in ExaC?
>you can cuck Maria if MC is marked.
I don't even know what that means in this context.
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>>79262736
That means that MC can fuck Maria's bf in both Richard's and Dwayne's routes while under the demon's influence. Perhaps Dyne will add more content to the other routes that follow this new path.
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>>79262909
I didn't know she had a BF. Almost makes me want to check it out again for the demon possession thing.
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>>79262376
I like Darius' awkward eye contact avoidance here.
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>>79262909
Dyne needs to move on not add MORE content
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>>79263346
Yeah, the demon thing sounds like it could been its own game kinda.
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>>79268066
>Cam starts shilling his cryptocurrency to find his anti-psychotic addiction
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>>79268605
More like his husbands Crypto Currency. Dev is definitely a ending up as Cryptobro.
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>>79225013
The holy trinity of Furry lifestyle -
Polyamory/Cuck shit.
Lusting after straight guys
Never exercising and having online addiction.
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>>79271215
welcome to rape city
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What happens when the morenatsu sasuke dog opens his eyes?
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>>79273266
Tora gets his finished route
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>>79271215
>>79272607
I miss Gamma's art. When was the last time he did anything?
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>>79273876
It’s all gaping donut holes now, utter shit :/
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>>79273876
Like >>79274187 already pointed out, Gamma was hypno'd by Jin to draw doonatsu hoorus and prolapse.
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>>79273266
Same thing that happens when you take off naruto kakashi's mask
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>>79271215
>Kouya lusting over Shun
>Kounosuke referencing Torahiko having a small dick in Morefuyu
Thanks google lens
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BRAP, I mean BUMP
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Despite everything, I miss reading through Echo for the first time.
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>>79280066
I followed Echo from the beginning. The first couple of updates were MAGICAL. At the time there was nothing else even close to it.
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Anyone read anything new?
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>>79282807
I was reading roads yet travelled but marrow's route ended on a cliff hanger
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>>79261739
I'm up for it, but where? Should we make a discord for that.
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>>79285401
There is no point doing something like that yet if the point is to help the thread get more active. Something needs to get off the ground before doing something else to stay more organized.
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I'm more of an idea guy. But I don't want to share my ideas here in case ChellayTiger steals them like that one anon's VN concept.
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>>79286964
What happened now?
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>>79287956
A joke about an anon talking about his ideas for a VN in these threads, and then claiming that Chellay lurks in the thread and stole one of them.
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>>79287956
This happened
https://chellaytiger.itch.io/farewell-wanderlust
that's literally that Anon's pitch about a wolf finding love as a vagabond
>>79288037
>A joke
Sure thing Cheatllay
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>>79288056
can you provide proof?
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A game jam might be a bit too ambitious to start with, but maybe trying to come together to make a VN might be a better starting point? It might be easier to get anons willing to work on that instead. Assuming we have enough people able to both pool their efforts and people that can work on various areas of it.

>>79288056
No offense to the person's idea but a coming of age story with hitchhiking wasn't invented by him. While it isn't impossible he saw the idea here, the chances of him being here are super low.
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>>79288056
>>79289159
Pretty sure he said most of the idea came from "Into the Wild"
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>>79282807
I done a couple, Graven, Reconnected and i caught up with NeveN, Void Dreaming and Polar Night
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I would love a Digimon FVN.
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>>79289159
>maybe trying to come together to make a VN might be a better starting point?
Too much infighting.
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>>79289159
>>79293218
Snoot game managed to get made, so it's not impossible. I could help out with the art, but I don't really have much free time
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>>79293218
I have to go off the assumption that there can be some anons willing to work on something even if don't get their 100% perfect dream VN made. Even if all we start with is a rough demo, it would give us experience of working in a team and organizing. Two things very helpful for both making VNs and hosting or being a part of a game jam.
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>>79291851
Good luck paying the royalties.
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>>79289159
Depends on what each of us have in mind.
In my head I'm imagining howevermany teams we can assemble spending two to four weeks on howevermuch of a vn each team can make. Low commitment, easy to shuffle people around, and short timeline so things don't burn out.
A longer jam would be a nightmare since getting people to stay on for months in smaller teams would blow hard and be the worst of both worlds.
The thread coming together to make 1 VN may work but if the idea is make something on the level of Snoot or KS then it'll just never happen but if the idea is to pool everyone's work for a few weeks to maybe 2 months then yeah that could work too but then there'd need to be some consensus on what you're making.
Deciding what you make and doing the annoying shit to get it as actually done as possible are the two big places where projects fail and a jam forces you to not waste time on the first and actually do the second or risk ranking low
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pmub
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>>79296988
To be fair, im pretty sure you can do fanstuff as long as you don't monetize it (and even then stuff is kinda borderline with shit like patreon thinly veiling "goals".). Like there is Pokémon and MonHun stuff out there and i doubt they asked for permission.
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>>79297358
I'm just thinking that we might not have enough people to make one team if we start a jam at first. I'm not expecting a full length VN. Just something short like a scene or two to try to get people in the door. That way we can kind of see how many people we would be willing to be part of it. Taking steps to getting a jam at some point. It is easier to get some fresh blood in if we have something to show as well.
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zzzz
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>>79304586
Res is gonna fug everyone! Even rage wolf and greed fox got minigame icons.
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>>79301360
>Just something short like a scene or two to try to get people in the door. That way we can kind of see how many people we would be willing to be part of it.
That's a good idea. They'd act more like a qualifier to see how likely it is for us to make anything in the future.
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>>79301360
>>79305495
Fuck it, sure. I'm down.
Everybody who wants in raise your hand
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>>79305615
I think a more useful thing to ask is how many people want to try and what are they willing to do. So I'll ask everyone here:
Are you willing to write?
Are you willing to draw?
Are you willing to make music?
Are you willing to put the code together?
If you answered yes and are willing to put in the effort, please speak up with any skills you may have. The skill level doesn't matter and if you are willing to learn, that is also good. Even if you don't want to do any the above, you are also welcome to brainstorm ideas for it. I can write and help with the code since I'm somewhat familiar with Renpy. The important thing is to offer what you are willing to commit to.
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>>79305942
>Are you willing to write?
Somewhat, but I can Edit if we care about prose/grammar
>Are you willing to draw?
Very, but I do struggle with character design.
>Are you willing to make music?
Never ever
>Are you willing to put the code together?
Very, but I am a python n00b. Willing to learn fast though
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I haven't picked up a pen in months... The idea of drawing or writing for a project sounds cool, but I'm not sure I can be trusted with any deadlines.
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>>79306554
for something like this its way better to hop in do a little bit of something and then miss the deadline like a tard than for everyone to be shy about it
you WILL miss the deadline your work WILL suck it WILL be confusing and a clusterfuck you WILL be stressed out
but you hop in anyways because thats how stuff gets made
there's usually always tedious stuff that nobody wants to do but that really helps if you just want to backline, like color corrections or inking/lining or blocking out shots or a dozen things
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>>79306734
I agree with this. Our first time should be more about getting people willing to try and more comfortable with sharing their work. It will be messy as we are all just trying to figure this out together. It just is important to try to take this small step so we can scale up at some point.
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>>79305942
Also willing to draw, if you need more help on that end
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>>79267394
What I'd give for a winter break sequel
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>>79305942
>Are you willing to write?
To be honest, I'm trying to learn right now, just to improve my grammar and vocabulary, since I'm an esl.
>Are you willing to draw?
My MSpaint doodles are shit so, nope.
>Are you willing to make music?
nope.
>Are you willing to put the code together?
That's something I can be helpful with, I know python well, and renpy isn't that different

I think what I'd most like to help with is brainstorming. I'm also working on a story idea I've been thinking about for a while, but it's still in a very early stage, so I don't feel comfortable sharing it right now.
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So it seems like we have people willing to write, draw, and code. If no one wants to do music we can mostly likely get by with stock music and sounds. So why don't we think about the concept? I think we will most likely be working with two characters to keep things simple. What species would you want them to be? What about their appearance? (asking more about body type to keep it simple, details like clothes can be added later.) What is there relationship? And what do you want to VN to be about? Any other details you wanted to mention are fine too.
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>>79309840
How about a character bear, but not depressed. That could be a good challenge.
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>>79305942
I make some music in FL studio for fun from time to time.
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>>79310345
Another thing, i draw too, very amateurish, but i'm still a beginner in digital art and i suck at it.
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>>79305942
>Are you willing to write?
If I have to, but I'd rather have someone else write for me. My own writing skills are quite average, and I suck at prose.
>Are you willing to draw?
Yeah. I'd say I'm good enough at drawing to make art for a visual novel.
>Are you willing to make music?
Nope
>Are you willing to put the code together?
As long as I don't have to code any mini games, I can code the VN.

>>79309840
I have a few ideas for the VN. Let me know which one you guys would be interested in working on:

> First idea is about a very woke socialist Zoomer college student who's invited by his homophobic and evangelical father, who cut him off when he came out. The Zoomer decides to go, but then the father tries to subtly make him less woke, and he's not having it. Then the father catches the zoomer jerking off, and he gets turned on by it. The father soon admits that he's sexually attracted to him, which causes the son to come onto him. They have sex and now they're in a weird situationship where the father becomes more of a faggot slut while the son becomes more of a chud chad.
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>>79310435
(Continued from this post)

> Second is about an Anti-woke NEET incel gooner gamer who lives with his mother and only had one girlfriend before meets another man on the internet and becomes close friends. They meet in real life and turns out the other guy is super hot and athletic. At first it's awkward for the gooner because he doesn't know how to talk to people IRL, but then they fall in love with each other. The guy has really low self-esteem but his boyfriend loves him for who he is and just wants him to be himself. Also I was thinking of the gooner having a degenerate kink like NTR or something.

> Third is about a criminal (Violent thug) who had an abusive father, and becomes captured by a plucky but naive veteran, and he learns to be a better person. They soon fall in love.

> Last one is about an overthrown king being turned into a slave by one of the people who overthrew him. The VN explores their sexual relationship.

>>79310087
I'm willing to make a VN about bears, but most species are fine by me. I do have a preference for crocodiles and dragons though.

As for body types, I like musclechub the most, but bodybuilder and chubby are good too, as long as they have thick butts.
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>>79310612
Third is generic, but I like that one the best. I think a simple story would be best for a first time try like this, don't you think? Second is good too minus NTR.
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>>79311007
Okay, that works for me. If we work on the second idea, I don't mind making the gooner not be into NTR. Maybe he'd be into another degenerate kink, but I don't know what. Or he could just not have any weird kinks and just be a vanilla gooner.
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>>79309840
If it's just two characters, make it a classic "tall thin guy and a short fat guy". Or, if you want shake thing up, a tall fat guy with a short thin guy.
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>>79311116
Maybe he is just normal and not a degenerate hahahahaha.
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The smoke room sucks.
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>>79311225
better than echo
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>>79305942
>Are you willing to write?
Yeah, I can edit too.
>Are you willing to draw?
Sure but I'm not so good at it. Mostly just lineart for me.
>Are you willing to make music?
I can, but it'd probably be actual physical instruments/have simpler melodies?
>Are you willing to put the code together?
I have coding experience but not in python though. Was planning on learning python anyway.

>>79310435
>>79310612
I feel like for a first vn we should scale it down as much as possible. A story spanning only one day I think would be good, like aisuru
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>>79311430
I feel like we could condense either the second or third ideas into one day if the game instead ends on them having sex and starting to fall for each other, rather than having them be completely in love by the endgame.
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>>79311225
Just read it for the porn. I think CA is more fun as a "Non-Canon Prequel" but it has worse sex content, but we'll see how the Moon Reversed Route works out since it probably gonna be the "everyone lives" ending. At worst TSR still beats Circles.
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Hey guys, so I decided to revisit the chud story between the goat and dragon. I was making progress with the writing, but then I got busy with something else. After the assassination of Kirk, however, I thought about making the story more obviously condemn adultery while also trying to stray away from the anti-gay faggot stereotype. I just don't want these two faggots to represent libertarians as a whole. I also want to separate economic policy from cultural beliefs, so the VN isn't saying that you have to be homophobic if you're a capitalist. I'm tired of socialists running the country.

I now made the introduction take place after their affair was found out by the public, where the two haven't seen each other for five years. The VN would flip-flop between the past (before and during the affair) and the present (after the affair broke out).

That being said, I was thinking about the tone of the VN. Should it be dramatic and serious? Or should it be a dark comedy, ala It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, with the dramatic moments being secondary?
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>>79314471
There’s nothing wrong with being a faggot, just ask your dicks sucking president lmao
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>>79314471
fuck off chellay
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Why is he like this?
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Good you see you again. I guess the tone will depend on what you are now going for. Did you want condemn them both? Or did you want to frame it more as a mistake they did? Those answers should really set the choice of tone. Focusing more on the pain of the action or them tying to move on from it.
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>>79315888
>You'll never receive the sloppy-donnie
Bubba, you lucky bastard...
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up
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>>79320664
I want the story to condemn them both, but I also want them to take responsibility in the present and atone for what they did, with a potential ending of the two getting together.
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>>79325177
Then I think treating more serious would be the way to go. Letting see they fucked up and give them a chance to grow from it.
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>>79325950
Then that's that. I'll write the story with a dramatic tone in mind. Thanks for the feedback!
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>>79282807
The new polar night update came out somewhat recently. It has new background cg and like... A way better mastery of horror and ambiance. At least it's better than most fvn out there. Even if I must admit it's not a particularly high bar to clear.
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>>79328270
Not funny
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ɓůmp
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So let's say you have a dating sim and you have love interest A, love interest B, and love interest C. If you go for love interest A, then B and C will get together in that playthrough. Some people who go through all the routes but have B as their favorite would feel cucked seeing them get together with love interest C. What's the ideal solution to this?
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>>79333788
1 route
This is also kind of the reason polyamory is popular in these games. Kind of wanting to eat your cake and have it too.
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>>79333788
Tell people to suck it up and don’t have a “canon” route
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>>79333788
Wouldn't they just pick B and feel like that is the true route to them? Not really a problem. This is so uncommon that I think I've only seen one VN try to pair up people you don't pick.
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>>79334592
I can think of one where the LI gets with another guy whether you’re on his route or not lol!
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>>79327677
I like Polar Night but i think it is furstrating the sensible option at the start is being postponed until the current route is done.
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>>79333788
Give the player the option to either support or sabotage B and C's relationship. If they sabotages them out of jealousy, have either B or C spiral into depression and suicide as a result, overwrite save files with 'no going back'. Then have love interest A discover that the MC caused all of this, never talking to the MC again. Player is happy because he did not get cucked, problem solved.
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>>79333788
Just do the Camp Ash route, characters get to PAIR THE SPARES, but Kill everyone except the MC and Route LI.
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>>79336635
lel those people really make you seethe rent free don't they
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>>79334761
FUCK Lunateria, nice guys, never EVER!
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>>79336635
>You can't be cucked if everyone around you is dead or gone.
Brilliant.
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>>79305942
>Are you willing to write?
When I'm down I can draft ~2k words in a day, so yeah.
>Are you willing to draw?
I barely draw, but I can scribble something if I use enough references
>Are you willing to make music?
Pass. I'll probably import some royalty free tracks into the game.
>Are you willing to put the code together?
I've seen what the .rpa scene files look like and I assume it's easy as fuck to use the basic features of the engine.

Related: What should the deadline be? Is December 20th (31 days from now) appropriate?
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>>79339882 (me)
>What should the deadline be?
Probably something shorter like 15-20 days since we're keeping the scope small.
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You could fit an entire papaya in his mouth
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>>79225013
Love
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>>79341897
baby don't hurt me
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Wait so are we doing this gamejam / not gamejam thing:
A)Together as a single team or
B)each of us are doing our own submission solo
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>>79333788
Just don't fucking pair them up together? It's not rocket science. The LIs are meant for MC only.
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>>79344203
That stupid shit is why we don't get rival marriages in Harvest Moon games anymore
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>>79344243
The satisfaction from that came from being able to cuck NPCs out of a LI. It's not like you're fighting anyone over a man and then get to flaunt it to them for winning in a VN.
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>>79344203
It's a Cope thing for people who can't stand the idea of characters they like dying alone with unresolved subplots because you didn't pick them.

No matter what you pick you gonna upset someone.
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>>79344301
That's what fanworks are for. Not the main work. Easties get it, but I guess it's too much of a challenge for us.
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>>79340047
You could fit a lot of things inside his mouth...
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>>79344539
That is the biggest cope I have ever heard
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I kinda wish more VNs would do the whole multiple Protagonists thing, that would solve the "cucking issue", right? I guess it is more demanding writing though.
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Woman
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So, since Gorg Square left Echo Project and is also okay with teen stuff, why haven't we gotten more fanart of Andy Adler?
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>>79333788
Tell anyone who gets angry over it to kick rocks. Never capitulate to the mentally ill. It's *your* artistic vision not theirs. So tired of "Well you need to consider that this might offend like 2 people if you ship these 2 fictional characters!"
Kill yourselves. That's a better solution.
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>>79347364
Who is that guy next to Chase and Leo?
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>>79351383
Prolly Syd
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>>79314471
What does the goat look like?
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>>79314471
>No more hot adultery of the goat fucking the dragon behind his wife's back, just snippets of it.
Honestly a shame, the tone you went with for the introduction last time I read was pretty perfect.
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>>79352070
I can't show the actual design because I want to remain anonymous, but here's the AI rendition of him.

>>79352322
The focus is still going to be on the events of the affair; the events of the aftermath/present are more of a set piece than anything. What I'm saying is that there's not going to be any part of the affair that will be cut off.
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>>79333788
Then they should man up and deal with it. It's this type of shit that really makes me think some people need to touch grass.
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Which do you prefer, NVL (textbox appears over the characters) or ADV (textbox appears beneath the characters)?
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>>79351383
Sydney, it's from Echo Tangent, It's a AU where SocketFace Flynn interrupts Chase killing Sydney, and then years later basically gets the option to possess Chase or Sydney to see how shit worked out out of sheer boredom after sitting on the bottom of the lake to keep "Sam" away from them. Also Leo is a BDSMfag now!
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>>79352997
Ah, I see. Same stuff in the past, just showing the bad consequences of something like that in the future too. I guess that makes sense.
As long as you really play into how obviously immoral and fucked up, yet hot it is, I think you'll be fine.
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>>79350587
this. worst case scenario you're gonna get some fag from /fvn/ screaming "cuckshit! polyshit!" like a demented retard
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>>79358024
How much do you get out of Echo Tangent if you're a massive Sydneyfag?
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>>79358024
Are there still routes for both sides? Can I get more content for my doomed Chase/Flynn ship or are you locked into something once you pick your protag?
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>>79359502
Depends, as a "Sydney Lives" fic it is fairly okay, i read worse ones, but it doesn't really lean into BURLY ROIDED WRESTLE OTTER like some stuff does,He is muscular but not overly so and not that much bigger then Chase (By comparison his dad when he hallucinates him definitly is the BURLY type). He is also a schizo and flipflops between aggression and being a pussy (and you get the opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Clint at one point). It seems to be leaning into SydXTJ. Also Leo steals his hat to blackmail him into being nice to Chase, which is why he doesn't have it. I think some anon likened him to Chloe from the Life is Strange prequel?

I think the highlight is actually how he and Chase interact because they are both basically equally scared shitless of and hates the other and that makes for some fun PoV stuff when you read their scenes from the others perspective.

Basically don't expect a Horrorbuns Sydney from it.

>>79359543
From what i got there might be splits coming up in the party, but so far it looks like just one route with variations, with the route being kind of a TJ/Leo mix. Flynn seems to be getting the Carl Route with it basically all but obvious that they are "Not-Dating" so i doubt there will be Chase/Flynn shenanigans Carl/Flynn seems the endgame there.
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>>79359754
>I think some anon likened him to Chloe from the Life is Strange prequel?
Oh god no.
>TJ/Leo route
>No Flynn shit
Eh, not so interested anymore then. I do kinda get it since Flynn got the most content in the og already, so focusing on those two would be something new. But I just really don't care about TJ in the slightest.
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>>79359853
To be fair, i didn't really see the Chloe in him myself more then that he was kind of a shitstirrer who acts on emotion.

And it isn't like Flynn is out of focus or anything, he is still Sydneys best friend so he is constantly around, it is just that instead of "WHAT HAPPENED TO SYDNEY!?" (A non-issue since Sydney is alive obviously)as said, he and Carl basically have a whole "Not Officially a Couple but might as well be" subplot of their own, plus the whole "viewpoint" of the VN is Flynn-Route Flynn possessing the Otter you chose and he and "Sam" will discuss shit at times. The character that been most out of focus i'd say is Jenna.

It's a low bar but i think it is in the upper tier of Echo Fan VNs. Not as good as Echo minus obviously, but what is?
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>>79360053
That sounds interesting, honestly what sounds most interesting to me in this are interactions between Chase and Sydney, so I might give it a try just for that.
>Not as good as Echo minus obviously, but what is?
Very true..
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>>79350147
The game is too calcified to him add it
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Can you have sex in Roads Yet Traveled yet?
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>>79363083
No, keep waiting
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>the lust shards dev is a pedo
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>>79364204
like actually a pedophile or is it about cub drawings again?
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>>79364204
>>79364414
share his cub art, I wanna see
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>>79364617
Kill yourself.
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>>79364204
holy shit really? I believe you based on nothing but your word. We should cancel him.
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>>79365008
works on twitter and reddit...
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Are we never gonna get tired of persecuting other people for having/drawing art of bigger body with smaller body? What do we gain when all we lose is content from talent artists that isn't SOLELY "small bodies"
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I don't care I just want my BBK update with the capybara
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>>79365122
If it really is cub, they deserve it.
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you still haven't posted any proof of your claim about the lust shards guy.
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>>79365769
i just dont like lust shards
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>>79365783
>no 8yo alvy smut
damn, my day is ruined
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>>79365642
Take your crusade to real grooming gangs and to people who're genuinely hurting others. There're people who genuinely deserve persecution, someone drawing a body that tickles your asshole the wrong way isn't grounds for canceling.
> They're really underaged!
And they don't walk among us in our world, so we don't need to go full Chris Chan and think it's our duty to protect them by socially ostracizing the problematic creators
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oh cool we're gonna do cub discourse now.
yay!
such a worthwhile use of time.
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I hope Alvy gets groomed into having a diaper fetish
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>>79365981
Good way to kill off this early thread desu
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>>79365981
Pedos killed /fvn/
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>>79365981
I sure do love when the useless faggots in this thread complain instead of posting FVNs! Watch this!
Born to Obey may be a short FVN but it's got some charm and a cool art style. Made me reflect on how I've handled my own life the last few years.
https://rekion.itch.io/born-to-obey/devlog/1106799/born-to-obey-release
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>>79366680
I haven't tried it yet, but i have been catching up on some random shit, like that Lupus Corp one (interesting premise, but the writing is stiff) and Specimen 29 (felt very safe and by the numbers, especially when im coming off Soulcreek and Reconnected.)

I'll bump it up to my next read since i was holding off since it seemed like Depresso Expresso going by the previews.
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>>79366846
Any news on pic related?
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>>79367009
imagine anal voring several snakes and feeling them squirm around in your guts
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>>79367009
Not on the English front last i checked, im just in it for The Cop, cause he is a hottie but DogxBloods is badically a Blackgate tier doomed project for me these days, hell it was already that before they reinforced the censor.

Anyway, since i picked it up immedietly after i posted and finished it, im sad to say Born to Obey was kind of a misfire for me, i can see what it was going for and how it could resonate with people, but for me it was unapplicable for Blogpost reasons. Short and "cute" though, didn't overstay its welcome had a plot and did it competently, which was impressive considering how short it was.
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>>79367411
Any other reviews?
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>>79367540
Im >>79290109 so i can cover them i guess?

>Graven
Public Build isn't even up to the Itch pages pitch of meeting at the Therapist meeting room so it is kinda a Depression Simulator, definitely not as interesting as Light My Way so far, i want the SchizoFox back!

>Reconnected
Authors barely Disguised Vore Fetish, but atcually kinda interesting, even if it gone a bit hard on the COPS BAD and i don't really care for the LI, but the MC is kinda cute and i like his "Big guy that wants to be the small guy" complex.

>Neven
Very artsy and competently written since im pretty sure it is written in French first and then translated into English, but fun, Vekad is dominating the Husbando Wars these days, which is fun to see since he is a Stag rather then a Wolf/Bear/Tig/Dragon.

>Void Dreaming
Latest update was small, but Caleia is definitly the best FVN Female i read, Im not even straight or bi and i like her. The D&D Session was huge, but honestly i felt the writing effort should gone elsewhere, but did show some fun characterization, especially for Tulemeni. Continues the "Wideness over length" trend it had from the start.

>Polar Night
Great, but yearly updates makes it feel slow as molasses, very annoying cast but i feel that is the point.

and some other suff i read/caught up to since.

>Pirahus
Top Tier game (but still alot of VN in it) with a massive filter because it is absolutely too spicy and derpraved for most people, even if you don't patch it. Stupid names but still manages to handle a lot of things in both silly and mature ways. I don't like Taurs but i felt the taur portion was still very entertaining.

>Ode to Heroes
Regrettably didn't work for me even though i was looking forward to trying it cause some anons here like it, I think it was probably the pacing, i tend to prefer slower stuff. There is the escape, leading to the waking up scene and then sex and then flashback to a brothel and by then i kinda checked out and it felt like THINGS HAPPEN.
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>>79368080
Are you the guy that recommended Griseus in the 8 chan thread? I gave that a read because of it.
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>>79368146
Nope, haven't tried it yet myself.
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>>79368080
I wish Pirahus devs' other game would get some actual development cuz after they went full in on the incestuous insanity with MC and dad becoming lovers and Poseidong being the duke's son AND brother, it became amazing. I want to see more of their other game's dad too.
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>>79314471
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. I asked my friend, and he said that people are going to think the protagonists want to bring 50s era racism back. Is he right or retarded?
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>>79368988
Would it be so bad?
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>>79368988
Hard to say without context, but it sounds like your friend believes anything conservative is bad.
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>>79369170
>it sounds like your friend believes anything conservative is bad
quite a based friend to have. you should all be so lucky
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Does somebody have the new nik cgi?
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>>79369747
Based
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>>79369123
Not sure if you're saying that it wouldn't be so bad if racism was brought back or if the protagonists were thought to want to bring back racism
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I hate fvnfags, being around effeminate libtarded men that use negro women as reaction images is awful. Why you guys don't make your own community apart of these things? I'm pretty sure everyone on here despises the current fanbase.
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>>79372061
Is the associated update even out? Last i checked there was basically just two teaser images that wrre cropped floating around.
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Bump
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Thanks Themba, I'll take full offense anyway.
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>>79375026
I think only for backers
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>>79372506
take a peek at the url in your browser
then take a wild guess as to the answer
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I can't believe this thread is going to last an entire week.
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>>79380438
WE DID IT REDDIT
*HIGH FIVES AND GIVES REDDIT GOLD TO OP POST*
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I've read this years ago, and this line has always bothered me to the point I still remember the exact background when this was read to me. I've been looking for a way to figure out how to voice this little sperg in me, but nineteen is a prime number... What do clocks look like on a planet where each day operates on 19 hours?! How the hell can these people divide the hours into minutes and seconds when it's impossible to divide 19 by any other number?!
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>there was an /fvn/ thread up the whole time
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Attempting to try this one but when I click on "New Game" nothing happens.
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>>79383274
>it didn’t die like the actual thread from two weeks ago
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>>79383710
People tried to ignore it at first, but some people kept bumping it even if they had to do it twice in a row,
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>>79383387
post your discord tag uwu
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>>79383901
I think it was the juuichi OP, only reason I kept coming back desu
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>there are french people in my thread
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>>79383974
Va chier.
>>79384118
Chiale.

Now if you lot could be useful and answer my damn question, that would be swell.
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>>79384185
sounds like a skill issue but try just typing in the debug command to go to that main scene file unless this game isn't made in renpy then idk
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>>79384208
I tried the Shift + O command but it didn't work.
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>>79384240
format your main hard drive and reinstall windows
/thread
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>>79384118
>Implying that’s a person
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>>79384254
I'm not as stupid as you think. That little trick of yours only worked four times in the past on me.
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So is there another thread after this or…
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>>79385811
Is Password "POTENTIAL FVN"?
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>>79385943
What?
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>>79386089
You know, that Potential Man meme. "If" and "When" but never "Is".
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>>79386125
You lost me anon.
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>>79386341
Okay, anon i'll put it like this, people care more about the Potential of Password then what Password actually is (which is unimpressive), which is why it is fun to discuss "fixing".
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post your discord tags
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>>79385943
definitely
I still haven't read it so I can confidently saying everything on the surface seems interesting but consistently hearing how it's dogshit gives it the crown of wasted potential
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What ever happened to pollfag?
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>>79388025
Put one last one up and then checked out before it was time to announce results of the final round IIRC. It's a shame cause i found them discussing them fun enough, but i can't blame the anon for throwing up his arms either, plus he was kinda at the point where he wanted to redo topics so i guess he got the data he wanted.
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The results were a fun little time capsule of the obvious decline of /fvn/



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