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I will go to sleep now, right after the tax is paid
Glory to the free deer!
I can’t wait for season 3 where Viv is gonna bait Radio apple every 2 seconds…
>>79337253What a cutie! I wonder what Alastor will be doing with his new found freedom first?
>>79337279Oh yeah, it's going to be so forced and you WILL like it. I'm just hoping to see more of pic related since Emily saved him. >>79337309Having a sazerac and chilling out I hope. There was no mention of the chest wound, I wonder if he's going to try and get it fixed.
>>79337336So cute! I know Mr write fag has some Emily and deer together in his fic. Not bad stuff!>Having a sazeracIt will probably get brushed over, maybe a shot of him healing quickly if we are lucky. Would love to share a drink with him… It would be best for him to relax, he got all tuckered out from his romp with the Vs!
Didn't expect to like the ship so much but, hey, they interacted now. Yay for me. He deserves a drink after all that. Ugh why I am cursed with having lectures now with so many thoughts.
>>79337434Got 2 reports due by Sunday. Not bad not great. Gotta deal with it. Get in gear and take lots of notes!>and draw Alastor in the margins
>Vox did fucking everything for deer>even Val had to call him out on itVox has never been more relatable.>>79337279That made me cringe, holy fuck Radioapple is so forced. I'm probably going to dip in interest for this show now that I got my radiosilence. I do not want to see Alastor simp for anyone, let alone that fucking manlet.
>>79337492Gotta stick in it for the deer. I feel Vivze won’t make it canon. But she will push it so the fujos can scream about it.
>>79337487How am I supposed to care about mechanics when my head is full of deer? I’m so pleased for him, now he’s free. >>79337492I love him basically dislocating his whole leg here. So silly. I like Radioapple and I really don’t want it forced in the show. I have enjoyed the Radiostatic this season though, it was already established they had a relationship in the first season, and although there were bits that felt fanservice-y, it didn’t feel shoehorned in.
Decent episodes. My only narrative complaint was the hope song, the power of friendship nonsense belongs in kids shows, in an adult show it feels silly. Otherwise I'm pleased we can let go of the pretense that Vox still loves Alastor ('I'll slit your throat') and that Alastor ever reciprocated his his feelings ('handsy creep' lol). I enjoy Radiosilence, but I'm glad Viv didn't go full retard and actually give them a romantic backstory. Alastor breaking out of his deal was somewhat anticlimactic, but the fight scene was good. My only other complaint is the RA baiting. We know nothing is going to come of it in the same way nothing came of RS, but the baiting is insufferable. Give me a good story and stop making me feel like I'm slogging through multiple fujo ship bait scenes to get to something decent. It makes the fandom insufferable to deal with while I'm waiting for S3.
I really don't understand Alastor, he was friends with Vincent for years and said in his own words that he respected him, but being asked for more makes him lose all respect and despise him?
>>79337668>Otherwise I'm pleased we can let go of the pretense that Vox still loves Alastor ('I'll slit your throat')He absolutely still loves Alastor, Millie, he was willing to murder everyone including himself to wipe the smile off his face while sobbing. He's completely obsessed to an extremely unhealthy degree. If he didn't still hold feelings there he would not care. Hell, he paused over Alastor simply calling him his friend.
>>79337670Have you ever been close friends with someone and then they reveal that they're in love with you? Then they get all handsy and touch you without your consent? As an ace person that is EXTREMELY off putting. Alastor handled that poorly, but it's entirely understandable. You can't remain friends after that, you know that they're going to be constantly pushing your boundaries and it's uncomfortable as hell.>>79337691He wanted to keep him alive just long enough to prove he was 'God' and was then going to kill him. He literally said that.
>>79337668I don’t think it’s necessarily that he doesn’t love him, it’s more that there are no more of those cute, romantic love feelings, only horribly toxic, obsessive, destructive love feelings. Vox was willing to blow himself and half the pentagram up to wipe the smile off Alastor’s face. It’s twisted and awful, but Vox still loves him. Hopefully Val can calm him down and help him heal from it now.
>>79337737>He literally said that.And then he said fuck all that and what he truly wants is to wipe the smile off Alastor's face at the cost of his and the Vees' life. It was always about Alastor in the end. Pretty obvious.
>>79337757This. It's an extremely warped love, but still love. Classic anime tropes too.
Not to get heated over ships of course. I'm just so not looking forward to season 3 now, there is probably going to be so much "Alastor wants Lucifer" bait. Ugh...
>>79337757I wouldn't call that love. Love is willing the good of another despite yourself. What Vox has is a toxic obsession over someone who turned him down. For me personally the 'love' pretense dissipated when he tried to kill him and told him that he was just as soon as he proved his point. But that's my personal opinion.>>79337778Yes? It was always about wanting to out do the person who had hurt his feelings. I'm sure his preference was to just kill Alastor right out, but he failed.
>>79337916And you have yours. I personally don't consider toxic obsession 'love'. Stalkers don't 'love', groomers don't 'love', they have a narcissistic obsession that feeds their ego first and foremost. Vox's main reason for doing what he did was because he was turned down romantically, it's because of his wounded ego and a desire to prove to his obsession that he made a mistake by rejecting him, not some undying love for Alastor. So we can agree to disagree.
>>79337970He's still in love though. We're dealing with villains here, obviously it's not going to be fluff. I don't really get why you're adamant about this, it's still canon that Alastor wants nothing to do with him regardless of how Vox feels.
>>79337990Because I have pretty strict definitions of what actual love is after living through what I have. We can agree to disagree. Don't worry about it.
I think we’re debating semantics, we all agree Vox has strong feelings and they’re bad. There’s no way they could ever go back to being how they were before Alastor rejected Vox. Of course, everyone is free to do what they like in fanon if they choose. The real enemy here is forced Radioapple, never forget. <3
>>79338081Pretty much. My opinions should have no impact on people's headcanons or interpretations. I'm out here applying real world psychology to a cartoon lol. Vox obviously felt strongly and it was very maladaptive. Anyway. The RAs are going to be insufferable now, aren't they?
>>79338177I’m here for the toxic yaoi, I expect some good fanfiction, haha. I haven’t had time to check twitter properly, but I expect the Radioapple discourse is going to be very annoying. I hope Viv doesn’t actually make them having romantic feelings for each other, they would be so much more interesting without them.
>>79338358Personally I think that would be a bad move on her part. Alastor is the pinnacle of asexual representation in media at this point, and while most asexuals definitely experience romantic attractions, giving Alastor a romantic interest seems counter productive to Viv's LGBT pandering. We all live for toxicity and angst in our fanon, but including reciprocal toxic yaoi in the show feels forced.
Is Vox the biggest alastorfag in the show?
>>79338488Ideally Alastor ends up with no one. I don’t mind him having some feelings that he doesn’t know what to do with, and I don’t think they necessarily should be directed at Lucifer either. But yeah, the kind of fluffy romantic Radioapple that everyone seems to like would be shit, and does a disservice to both characters.
>>79338654I wouldn't mind it being Emily or Charlie, as I see neither one of these actually going anywhere. Though with Viv being as weird as she is I've ruled the latter out. I would definitely rather Al just stay single, even though I do want him to have a happy ending. Lucifer needs to get back with Lilith in my opinion.
>>79338654>>79338757I think Viv will tease radioapple but not actually commit. The reason radiosilence could become canon is because it’s one sided on Vox’s part and has been hinted at since the original comics but I can’t see Lucifer developing a one sided crush on Alastor.
>>79338757Lucifer did point out he was still married. But then said “I think” iirc, so know knows where Viv is going to go with that… one of the arguments I’ve seen again Radioapple is the fact that Lucifer is married, and we know she likes to make little jabs at shippers. But there’s always the danger of overanalysing things and manifesting them because Viv sees the good ideas in the fandom and puts them in the show. Emily would sit better with me than Charlie. I know fandom drama shouldn’t affect the canon, but I think with Charlastor, it’s too far gone to be tenable. Regardless, Emily is a powerful angel who hasn’t been subject to Alastor’s manipulations yet in the show. After Charlie was basically made brain dead this season, it would be nice if there was at least one character who doesn’t fall for all of his ploys. Emily is similarly naive and idealistic though, so we’ll see on that one.
>>79338790If Alastor is the one who develops a crush I'm going to throw my phone against the fucking wall.>>79338855Lucifer goes on and on about missing his wife, so it's obvious that he would much rather be with her over a man. But Viv is Viv and she genuinely can't help herself when it comes to gay drama. I agree that Charlastor is kind of tainted now, especially after Viv couldn't keep her mouth shut on her socials. Alastor is probably the most intelligent character on the show, since Viv has nerfed everyone else, it wouldn't surprise me if she makes Emily naive enough to fall for him.
>>79339166In a way, I do kind of think Alastor developing some kind of feelings for someone else would be interesting to see. We've already seen him wrestle with the idea that he cares about the hotel, anything deeper and I expect a full on crash out.With regards to Lucilith, I can see Viv doing something to break them up. Whatever Lilith is up to in Heaven, it can't be good for her family. Whether it's nefarious enough to break them up, who knows. Perhaps Lilith ends up putting Charlie in danger somehow and Lucifer has to choose between them. Idk, all the drama around Lilith and Eve and Roo is going to end up being shite for sure, if Lucilith ends up being a casualty of that mess it'll suck even more. It kind of feels like Viv made everyone dumb so Vox would look better, and then by having Alastor mess with him so obviously all season while he's oblivious, Alastor looks like a super genius. Pretty much everyone guessed what was going to happen after episode 4 though, so was it really that clever? It might have been nice to see the other Vees warning Vox about Alastor, Vox could have hand-waved it away by saying they're just jealous or something, instead all they do is seethe in private until Vox goes completely off the deep end. Having every character just get tricked by Alastor through the whole show is going to get tiresome fast.Speaking of which, what the hell is the deal with Rosie at the end there? She calls him a snake, then gives him what she wants and smiles. She wanted Alastor to help with the magical friendship beam, but he wouldn't until she fixed his staff. Why does she want him to save the hotel so much? Is she actually Lilith or working for her? It would explain why Alastor is now fixated on Lucifer, instead of it just being fujo shit.
>>79339760>if Lucilith ends up being a casualty of that mess it'll suck even more.Yep, and I agree that Viv will probably break them up for the sake of ship bait if anything. I would honestly be happy if Roo didn't exist, as we have enough going on as is and she just looks like a Carmen Sandiago rip off with ugly checkers lol.>Having every character just get tricked by Alastor through the whole show is going to get tiresome fast.ESPECIALLY Charlie. Viv made her so abysmally stupid this season it's hard to root for her going forward. For Vox's plan to even gain traction Viv had to give everyone room temperature IQs, it was very grating. >She wanted Alastor to help with the magical friendship beam, but he wouldn't until she fixed his staff.This is so stupid, if it exploded he'd be dead too, a fine time to negotiate. Just use your magic Care Bear beam to get rid of the threat and then worry about things later. The Rosie is Lilith thing makes more sense based on that and I wouldn't be surprised I'd she and Alastor weren't just banging for the last seven years and thats why he hates Lucifer. Fuck it.
>>79340014>if not I'd
>>79340014With Charlie, it would have been a good thing I think to have her fall for Alastor's tricks a few times, but slowly get wise to him and be able to handle him. That way she gets some much needed development, coming into her own as the princess of Hell and being able to stand up to the most dangerous sinners without losing her idealism and heart. Now if she falls for anything Alastor says again, after watching Alastor mocking Vox for falling for his plans and explaining exactly how he did so, she's just stupid. A sad waste of Charlie's potential, in my opinion.At least we already know we're going to find out what Rosie is in season 3, so it's not like we have to wait too long for it. I don't know if she was so desperate to save Charlie etc that she would have given Alastor anything right then to help, or what. I'll take some Radioqueen though, if it's back on the menu, haha. Can't wait to roll my eyes endlessly at the contrived way Viv explains all that mess.
>>79340331I miss pilot Charlie who actually did something. I feel like the Charlie we're getting now just kind of...lets things happen to her. It's weird. She could have easily called on the other Sins to come help her take down Vox, but she didn't? What's the point of her being a princess at all if she has no control over her subjects and those subordinate to her father? I have to turn off my brain and forget that HB is in the same universe because all Charlie would have to do is call up Satan to come smash everything. I'd be fine with Radioqueen. In fact I might prefer it to Emily, as it would give Alastor a chance to be the one with unrequited affections. Full circle and all of that. If Lilith just used Alastor for her bidding/sex it might make Alastor realize how much he's hurt others by doing the sane thing, since Alastor does seem to have a modicum of introspection. Calling Alastor a snake was interesting though, it definitely gives credibility to the idea that there was more going on between them than him being owned.
>>79340602>pillowfuckerHe's literally me.
>>79340595You could probably axe most of the hotel scenes and songs and still get basically an unchanged plot. >>79340657Alastor is gonna hump your body pillow of himself just to assert dominance
>>79340776>Alastor is gonna hump your body pillow of himself just to assert dominanceH-hot...?
>>79340595I think that's why I like him with Emily, she has the same energy as Charlie, but Viv hasn't taken away everything that makes her engaging (yet). Depending on how far along they were on season 2 before it was agreed that HB would also air on Amazon, it makes sense not to have the Sins there, except a few visual references. It's worse from Lucifer's perspective, Charlie might not have wanted to involve them because she wants to save everyone with the power of friendship, but Lucifer has no such compunctions. Surely he could call on the high ranking hellborn to smite anyone who tried to challenge him. It does put into question a lot of the supposed power levels though. But then it's weird because Alastor was mocked for thinking he could defeat Adam, but then Vox can just throw Emily around with his cables. Someone should be keeping track of this kind of thing. I feel like we keep going in circles with who Alastor could possibly be obsessed with or have feelings for. I'd given up on Lilith, but now it seems feasible again? Stop messing with me like this Viv. It's not fair.
>>79340876There will be mysterious stains on all the things when you have Alastor alone with them… marking territory!
>>79341058Do not let the deer ruin your soft furnishings...
>>79340992Good point about HB not yet being an Amazon property, that does explain things, but at the same time I still feel like HB shouldn't have existed in the same universe. It just opens up too many questions when it comes to world building and who is and isn't powerful.All we really know is that it's female, and if we're going off of the 'so Alastor' fan song it's someone who 'uses' him. Lilith and/or Rosie are the only logical answers, *maybe* Charlie? Mimzy used Al before and they (probably) were fwb... Maybe thats all he knows of love? But it's best not to look too deeply into it, otherwise we'll just be disappointed.>>79341058Just...pissing and cumming all over the room...
>>79341185>cuntboyAlmost good… gotta be careful, everything is gonna get a crust on em if you don’t keep an eye on deer.>>79341216Gotta piss and cum all over deer in return?
>>79341216From the fact that they did add a few references, I would say that it was after the voice recording was done, since it wouldn't take too much to add a few pictures in and Lucifer's gifts from the Sins. But going back and re-recording a section and possibly reanimating it would be a ballache. There are so many plot holes though, some of which will likely be explained later, but there are some things that just don't make sense. In future, the addition of more HB stuff might make it feel more organic.I'm just happy being a multishipper. At this point, I'll take pretty much anyone with Alastor except Charlie lol. To be honest, I wouldn't even hold out on it being female anymore given Viv's fujo tendencies. Best scenario is it goes nowhere still. The 12 year old aroaces who cry about fanon shipping already do my head in.
>>79341302Ahahaha, if you ignore the top image it's good though. Everything will smell like deer... erotic.
>>79341458Fair, and I’m sure with a bit of editing the top can look like deer ballz.
>>79341486That's the spirit!
>>79341302Challenge accepted!>>79341407Agreed, hopefully now that HB is on Amazon future episodes of HH can incorporate that for better world building. I can give them a pass for now.With Viv anything is possible, yes, but I feel like for Al it wouldn't make much sense. Mostly because he doesn't seem to like the company of men at all apart from Husk. He was friends with Vox in the past, but that ended as soon as he knew that Vox had feelings for him. Of course this is Viv were talking about, so I wouldn't rule anything out, she's already retconned much of who he is by this point.With shipping, you know, I largely don't involve myself in it as a yume. So most of the crazy arguments don't affect me much. While I roll my eyes at the aro ace people (and as an ace person myself I find that identity kind of dubious desu), I'm on the same page them that Al should stay single, ha.
>>79341606Dropped my image.
>>79341626Lel
>>79341606I think Viv has strayed too close to fanon, she lets the opinions of her fans influence her decisions too much. With Radioapple being so popular and the fans so vocal, I can see her getting swayed. Which is sad, she talks about her vision and how she loves to tell stories, but she can't keep her main characters consistent. I just like seeing Alastor with different people. If Viv won't let her characters interact in the show, then I'll get it from the fans instead. Something I've seen people say about season 2 is that the hotel feels more like a group of people who live together than a group of friends, they don't have the found family vibe of the Vees. Everyone has someone they're paired up with, and they just don't interact with anyone else in any meaningful way. I really wish season 3 would have more episodes, I know it would take longer to animate but it's something the show desperately needs.
>>79341791The biggest and worst thing wrong with the hazbin show at the moment is the characters don’t ever have little interactions, they always have to push the plot forward or be a major development. We still haven’t seen alastor make a meal for the hotel, that’s a perfect episode idea!
>>79341961It's actually criminal. None of them seem to give a shit about each other until they have to for the plot. Alastor cooking is my fetish, lol, but it would be good. He does canonically cook in the hotel, everyone sitting down at he table together would be neat.
>>79342035>sitting down at the tableApologies for all my shit typing today, I thought I'd be better on my pc but clearly not.
>>79341791I have more respect for creators who aren't influenced by popular opinion, they have visions and stick to it because they care. I think one of the reasons is simply due to the fact that there are too many characters for us to spend meaningful time with, and Viv keeps adding more. It's hard to get the chemistry right when we have like, what, two minutes for each character?
I fear these last two episodes kind of ruined deer for me a little. He just makes no sense
>>79342441Elaborate.
>>79342204Viv's interactions with the fandom should be studied as an example of what not to do at this point. There are definitely too many characters and there are only going to be more next season. She couldn't even kill off Adam convincingly, with how his presence was felt all over Lute and Abel's arcs to the point where he overshadowed both of them. She needs to start cutting some of them, or suck a few more Amazon dicks for more runtime.>>79342441What do you mean by that?
>>79342490>wowee Vox, I sure hate when you touch me!>doesn't say anything about it>hung out with him for literal years anyway because ???He's just feeling more and more shallow as a character. Like Viv will have him behave completely irrational and then handwave it as "oh he's evil"
>>79342610Deer can’t communicate. Please understand.
>>79342610I've had male friends like Vox. It sucks because you can tell them that you're ace or not interested and they just don't care. You can give all the body language that says 'don't touch me', but they don't listen. So a lot of times you just excuse or ignore it because you don't want to ruin your friendship, despite giving not so subtle hints that you're uncomfortable by their actions. We saw that Vox made Alastor uncomfortable in the flashback because Alastor's ears were pinned back. Vox probably got more handsy as he developed feelings for Alastor and Alastor didn't want to make an issue out of it. Alastor is from Louisiana and in the South we're socialized not to make a big deal out of these things instead of being direct, unfortunately. I think Vox revealing his feelings was the straw that broke the camel's back.
>>79342610Eh... I don't think it's Alastor being irrational. Putting your hands on someone's shoulders like Vox does is a show of dominance, which Alastor would despise since he likes to be in control. Alastor does it himself to Charlie, which is kind of hypocritical I guess. But if you watch the flashback, Alastor lets out a static noise when Vox puts his hand on his shoulders. When Alastor is captured by Vox, he visibly recoils when Vox gets too close. Though at that point I doubt Vox cares about Alastor's comfort the way he might in the past when he thought they were friends. We do only see a small snippet of the past, perhaps Alastor brushed Vox off several times but Vox just didn't get the message. Could he have been more direct? Possibly, though that doesn't always stop people.Alastor probably could have handled it better. He's the kind of person who will put up with someone for as long as it takes to get what he needs though. Snapping at Vox for touching him in a way he didn't like wouldn't help his plans.
>>79342908>>79343029Why the fuck would he hang out with him and tolerate it then if he never even saw Vox as a friend and it all meant nothing?? He has no qualms hurting him or people in general. Why not just tell him from the getgo that he's grossed out and stop spending time with him?!
>>79343085That aspect of their relationship probably only developed later on, I seriously doubt Vox started off handsy with Alastor. Look at how he treated Sir Pentious for touching him. They most likely became friends and then over time Vox started to push boundaries. We still don't know the rest of the story anyway, Alastor's behavior screamed 'uncomfortable', whenever Vox touched him. His eyes flicked down to Vox's hands and his ears pinned back. Vox just didn't notice the hostile body language or didn't care.
>>79342035You can have all the funnies and drama that one could want>is alastor serving us sinner?>charlie working on keeping everyone from killing each otherAnd develop the world and ago into how alastors powers work
>>79343085Why assume he didn't think of him as a friend? The rejection felt to me more of a defence mechanism on Alastor's part. Vox tried to get closer so Alastor automatically moved back. Alastor probably hasn't had many people approach him without ulterior motives. It wouldn't be out of character for Alastor to endure something he didn't like to keep Vox around, if he thought Vox might be useful at some point, or he started to enjoy his company. He also puts up with Rosie being all over him, though there's not much he could really do about that.
>>79343282Exactly, it would be a lot of fun. A few filler episodes would really help build some of the lore. That way Viv could have her big plot moments without it feeling empty because the characters barely seem to care about each other. Let Alastor cook!
>>79343433Let everything cook, it would help so much with the lore and it would make more sense why all of a sudden this cast of characters spend anytime with each other. Would also help with me caring about the guys your supposed to be be rooting for as well, cause without the pilot era and all the lovely stuff fleshing out the main cast, I would barely care about any of them…
>>79343570>an episode where everyone has a turn at preparing dinnerKino, take my money. General hotel hijinks would be so good. If HB gets shorts, why can't Hazbin have some too? That's what I thought when Viv was talking about cutting scenes with Velvette giving Alastor a makeover.
>>79343645>deer x snakeKino rare pare… sad we will never get an official explanation on why Sir Pentious was gunning for Alastor. there is only room for the major plot points and Fujo bait. Viv has a check list for these things!
>>79344176As if he'd willingly bathe...
>>79343262>His eyes flicked down to Vox's hands and his ears pinned backMost of the fandom's reaction to Alastor's body language was "He likes it!" tier.
>>79343824When I say I ship everyone with the deer... An explanation would be nice, since Pentious comes back for revenge after the pilot, and says they've done battle like 20 times. It's not just because of the Vees because Vox doesn't know Alastor's back until after he beats Pentious in the show. We still don't really know much about the overlord system in general. I thought we'd get more explanation of that, but they didn't really do anything in the end except agree with Vox then help with the friendship beam at the end.
>>79344244I remember reading TikTok comments where people were claiming that his ears being back meant that he was 'relaxed' because that's what 'deer do to show relaxation'. Ah, yeah, no. They only do it when they perceive a threat, the cartilage in their ears makes it impossible to hold that position unless it's being done willfully. Their ears are cartilage tubes, relaxed is pointing forwards...
>>79344238True true… stinky deer will remain stinky.>>79344286Fanon is almost always better in this regar.
>>79344286Why wasn't Rosie at Vox's overlord meeting thing anyway? You nean cactus man was there and not Rosie? The hell?
>>79344444*mean And damn, digits.
>>79344444>digitsI have thought about this. Perhaps he considered her too close to Alastor, the rest of the overlords don't really seem to hang around with each other, apart from the Vees and Carmilla/Zestial, so perhaps Vox thought that because he had Alastor, Rosie either wouldn't help him or would try to set him free. I also get the feeling that most other sinners are kind of grossed out by the cannibals. Even as a killer, cannibalism is a step too far for Vox, maybe?
>>79344444Holy digits
>>79344444Something something plot. Don’t put too much thought into it.
>>79344392I'll admit that I'm primarily a Voxfaggot who likes Alastor as my number 2 or 3 but Millie's take on his behavior towards Alastor is spot on.
>>79344444Also digits!!!
Rosie and Alastor's argument during the final song was cool but it ended on a weak note when they moved on like nothing happened to join the friendship circle.
>>79343262>We still don't know the rest of the story anyway,We never will, that's the point. Alastor makes no damn sense.>hang out with Vincent for years>never considered him a friend>also hated the touching yet still spent time with him why???>Viv said he laughed in his face because he's just an asshole>she clearly thinks this wraps up their entire relationshipIt's like he just behaves accordingly because plot demands it and, uh, he's evil I guess
>>79343347>Why assume he didn't think of him as a friend?He outright said it and Viv corroborated it as him not doing it for any reason other than being an asshole. He's a shallow fucking character now
>>79344552>Even as a killer, cannibalism is a step too far for Vox, maybe?is Alastor a cannibal though? It's heavily implied, but I wonder if it's something about the cannibal people specifically that weirds him out. Maybe it's because they helped Charlie fight Heaven?>>79344584True...>>79344589I actually like Vox, contrary to popular belief I'm sure, but I pointed out Al's body language a while back and it's something a lot of us noticed as well. I think many shippers were so excited about the potential for RS to be reciprocal that they came up with a few copes, and that's fine, we all get excited about things we're passionate about. That and a lot of people relate to Vox so they willfully ignore Alastor's very obvious discomfort.
>>79344704>>79344728You're repeating the exact same points we just answered. Alastor was an asshole because at some point in their friendship Vox became a sex pest. That's it.
>>79344679Most likely to keep appearances, after all, only Husk knows that Alastor is owned by anyone...
>>79344779Perhaps he makes allowances for Alastor, he wouldn't be the first one to overlook a flaw in someone he had a crush on. My opinion on that is based on Charlie's reaction to the cannibals, at least until she knew them and they helped her. They are kind of unique compared to other sinners, the cannibals all look alike while the other sinners are quite diverse. They're weird. >>79344728Alastor was being an asshole though. That doesn't mean he wasn't enjoying Vox's company up until the point where Vox made him feel uncomfortable. If you believe he's shallow, that's up to you, I don't think we're going to change your mind on that at this point.
>>79344779Alastor being the manipulative devil on Vox's shoulder who was constantly talking shit and egging him on to engage in riskier and more ambitious plans was what I wanted out of their scenes together. I did get the sense Alastor had a fondness for Vox at one point but had come to be disgusted by him while still being able to get some entertainment out of his banter with him.
https://youtu.be/Hfc7InvBevk?si=mKPqKmMCIAtbgomuAround the 33 minute mark Viv confirms Vox did genuinely love Alastor.
>>79345113I wish we got a lore drop on what they are. We see children, but sinners can't reproduce...>>79345152I think this a sound take. Their relationship probably started out quite enjoyable. Unfortunately Viv gives us very little in terms of story.>>79345171I think he did a first, most of us would agree on that.
>>79345726We gotta write the lore and flesh out the characters ourselves
I need more of this deer with his limbs in freaky positions.
>>79346352So it seems...so it seems...
>>79346412Flexible!
>>79347584Cute!
Viv says in that interview that Alastor has a different agenda in season 3, and he “may or may not be a great guy” in season 3. What the hell is our deer going to get up to next season.
>>79347945More power as always
>>79347945Whatever it is it's going to suck probably.
>>79348678Deer yapping
>>79348937Very talkative!
>>79341407>>79341791I'd be fine if they pushed out enough bait for all of his popular ships that you can headcanon any ship for him by the end of the series. As a chaggastor enjoyer that is the only way things work out for my interests. And maybe, just maybe, we can have alastor x harem of charlie, vox, etc. by the end.
ARE THESE ALASTOR'S BARE HOOVES??
>>79350144Lick them and see
>>79349814I may be in the minority here, but I would prefer it if there was no bait at all. I'd rather have a good plot instead of moving from one ship bait scene to the next.
>>79350202I think most anons would rather good plot, but it’s not gonna happen as unfortunate as that is. Second best is deer with everyone
>>79350340Everyone gets a slice of the deer!
>>79350972A slice?
LIVE
>>79355114Live deer
Why do all the characters in hellaverse look so damn anorexic? They fucking malnourished
>>79356364Alastor has worms
I really do not like Charlie now
>>79358734Charlie not even looking over at Alastor while he's bleeding all over the ground feels like an oversight. I know she's supposed to be traumatised and overwhelmed this season, but the girl who wants all her friends back at the hotel and safe just doesn't seem to care when they're right in front of her. I hope this is addressed in the next season, though I suspect it'll be brushed over except for Husk and Cherri being sad about Angel.
>>79359221It's probably me reading too much into things, but I feel like Alastor was trying to crawl away from them because he knew that Vox ultimately just wanted to kill him, so if he put some distance between himself and Charlie and Emily they would be safe.
>>79360334Perhaps, but it would be nice to see Alastor showing some care about anyone else, even if it is subconscious at this point. Even after everything that’s happened, Alastor still seems to have some respect for Charlie and the fact that even after everything she’s been through, she still believes in redemption.
>>79360384why is he even still at the hotel now that his deal with rosie is broken?
>>79360536Some people think that he made a new deal with Rosie, but idk. I think it’s more likely he made a deal for her to fix his staff in exchange for him helping them with the friendship beam, and it’s done. The reason given in the show is Lucifer. Everyone is taking that as Radioapple, but it may also indicate that Alastor is interested in Lucifer’s power somehow. They’re teasing Alastor as a villain next season already, with his own agenda, so perhaps that’s what his goal is and since Lucifer is staying at the hotel, Alastor wants to stay too.
>>79360653I also wanted to add to this that Lucifer showed Alastor in season 2 that he's very susceptible to manipulation when it comes to his family. Alastor, who just engineered the breaking of two deals at once, and ended up with his power intact and his staff fixed. Who Rosie calls a double-dealing manipulator, and has no qualms about making Charlie upset to break his original deal with Rosie.
>>79360384It would definitely be subconscious at this point, I don't see him openly realizing that his actions are altruistic. Though that makes it more interesting I think, him doing these little things without consciously thinking about his reputation or motivations.>>79360536I guess because he was living in Cannibal Town previously? That's really the only logical explanation, though I'm not sure why he'd tolerate it while Lucifer was around.
>>79361255Alastor have small moments like that would definitely be interesting, especially if he does have a villain arc next season and ends up being saved by the power of friendship. He's going to be so mad when he realises it, though.
>>79362811Will they trap him in a friendship ball you think?
>>79362892I hope everyone in the hotel stands around believing in him, and he ends up captured like a Pokemon. >look Al, we care about you really! Even if we didn't last season, but it's cool nowIf this is the way it's going, I want it to be funny, at least.
>>79362951That’s about the quality of writing you gotta expect from hazbin. Poor poor deer though
>>79362951Agreed, S2 was great, but it ended on such an odd note. At least make me laugh.
>>79363494The finale was great I should say, for me personally everything else was ass.
>>79363549>>79363494Needed more deer clearly. But yeah, season 2 was ok compared to season 1. But both where disappointing in there own ways
>>79363549I actually enjoyed this season, though I think a lot of that comes from watching it with everyone here and on twitter, while I only watched season 1 a month or so after it came out. I expect the worst from Viv, and every now and again she does something I like.
>>79364032S2 was better than S1 as far as plot imo, but that's not saying much. Hopefully by S3 Viv gets a better co-writer if she doesn't already have one.>>79364051I definitely enjoyed the act of watching more this go around because of the discussion here. I was so nervous I couldn't sleep most nights.
>>79365463We don't talk about the 2 weeks around episode 4. I still haven't fully gotten my appetite back. It's definitely enhanced the experience, being able to discuss with likeminded people. Hopefully we'll all be around for season 3, though that's a long way off.
>>79365962Yeah, after that I was kinda fucked up, ha. I'm actually really thankful that we had a little community here that supported each other. That made it a lot easier.
>>79366189>>79365962Could have been worse if we never had the leaks beforehand. Can’t imagine I would have thrilled getting jumped with Vivzes take on our deer.
>>79366189Crazy what a cartoon can do to you. Even /hhg/ hasn't been too bad, I actually saw way more stupid shit on twitter. >>79366397That definitely helped. Not just the hacks, but the stuff Amazon leaked themselves. I wonder how long before we get season 3 leaks.
>>79366496we already are, we got human angel dust before season 2 even ended
>>79366397I agree. That plus what else happened in S2 might have actually made me crash out. Having ripped one band-aid off helped with processing the rest.>>79366496I'm actually really surprised how chill the threads are. I'll stick around if they stay that way, otherwise I'll go back to being/deer/ exclusive.
>>79366545Oh yeah, I deleted that from my mind because it's ugly. I feel bad for Angelfags, they know true suffering.>>79366586Yes, hopefully it stays chill. I expected more bait, but I'm glad to be wrong.
>>79367034I predict a return to shit after the newness of S2 wears off, but I'll be happy if I'm wrong.
>>79367501At least it was fun while it lasted!
>>79368250Why is he so brown
>there is going to be so much "fanservice" of Alastor being a creepy rapey seme towards Lucifer next seasonI've been looking forward to seeing Alastor become a full villain since the Pilot, but this will actually kill all my interest in the series if it happens. And it absolutely is going to happen because there is no restraint with this fujo run series. Sorry to doomerpost, but I'm so bummed out by the ending of this season giving so much bait to this slop.
>>79368481The only way Vivze can keep the popularity going I suppose keep up that ship baiting, even though we never see the characters interact outside of important plot moments
>>79368481I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I absolutely fucking hate fan service. Don't care if it's my fave ship or not, it serves no narrative purpose and doesn't belong in a professional show. If Viv actually makes Alastor same sex attracted and doesn't keep him asexual I will 100% drop the show as well.
>>79368481I wish we hadn't already started hearing about season 3. The stuff about Alastor and Lucifer's relationship evolving came out while season 2 was airing, and we got Viv talking about Alastor's villain arc within a day of season 2 ending. Can she just stfu and let us process first without ruining everyone's headcanons and fun? Let's face it, it's going to be more than a year before we get season 3, there's plenty of time for Viv to drop hints and talk about the future.If we get nothing but rape seme Alastor I'll be so mad. It just doesn't make sense after all the Radiosilence stuff. I can see him maybe trying to dominate Lucifer in a manipulative way, for power, but not in a sexual way. And I say this as someone who likes Radioapple. Don't force it into the fucking show.
Honestly the more I think about it the angrier I am. This asexual creole man exists for nothing other than to be objectified and sexualized by Viv. Nobody actually cares about him, he exists only to serve the masturbatory desires of fujos. This is our asexual representation? Fuck Viv. Alastor deserved better.
>>79369658Alastor deserves a good show with good characters…
>>79369419I don't think you're in the minority, fanservice for the sake of fanservice is shit. Viv should focus more on making her plot coherent than sticking in more shipbait as a distraction. If it was just the odd scene or comment, fine, but it isn't at this point. There's more of it than genuine character interactions, and that isn't good.
>>79369903I wish I could take him out of his show and put him into something better.>>79369946100%. I managed to talk my husband into watching half of episode 7 tonight before bed. He has so many lore questions and doesn't give a fuck about gay TVs being sex pests towards deer.>Where is God and why did he allow Vox to shoot a piss beam at heaven?>Is Sera the highest being there? Where's the other archangels? >Why can't Lucifer just break out of the fishbowl, is angelic steel like kryptonite? >Wheres Alastor? He's the only interesting motherfucker here.>Why's human Vox's backstory just an Alastor clone?I unfortunately had no answers. This is an example of a normie who'd watch Hazbin. This is who Viv needs to win over. She's uh, doing a bad job.
>>79369658I'm more or less fine with Radiosilence as it's just Alastor weaponizing Vox's feelings to destroy him, with no reciprocity being involved at all, but I utterly despise the idea of Alastor being made into a perverted rapey seme. Male or female, I don't want Alastor to lust for or seek out anybody.
>>79370486I'm fine with Radiosilence as well, but episode 4 was nothing but rape fetish fujo bait. It was gross imo.
He is so cute… he needs something though…
>>79370513This is true, though I guess it can be argued that it at least serves to develop Vox more. He clearly made Alastor watch as another attempt to peacock and show off what he thinks Alastor is missing by rejecting him, which is extremely pathetic on Vox's part. I've seen it pointed out that it was put in as a fake out "joke" because we assume Vox has just raped Alastor, but instead he just had sex with Val. It would also be kind of a glaring oversight to have the rapist and rape enabler not do anything sexual with Alastor. It's fucked up either way, but I dunno, I'm conflicted. I really think this show shouldn't ever tackle rape or sexual abuse because it's a mess.>season 2 going above and beyond to make Valentino sympathetic or "softened"Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>>79370531Another one? He still needs something though…
>>79370674I think it goes back to tone for me. If it had actually been played seriously and not like a joke I might have been okay with it, but Viv can't seem to make up her mind when it comes to this sort of stuff. It's very off putting.
>>79370737Very true, I think that's my primary issue with it as well. Imagine making a punchline that is essentially "lmao psych he didn't get raped! Also isn't non consensual cuckoldry hilarious??". Viv is trapped in the early 2000s.
>>79370778What's surprising to me is that she's surrounded by people who nod their heads and tell her what great ideas she has.
>>79370678Perfection!
>>79370887Smiles helped to write that episode, iirc... yeah. That "joke" actually hurt. Vox and Val sexually harassing Alastor makes sense because of who they are, but the show shouldn't present it as something funny. I'd expect more of the same in future seasons, since she doubled down after getting shit for the Sir Pentious joke in season 1. Val is the face of the Vees now and Angel's going to feature prominently in season 3 so I'm sure there will plenty of super funny rape jokes there.>>79370975Three deers? What a delight!
>>79371316The pilot seemed like it was gonna take this sort of stuff seriously… I miss all of the people who actually made the pilot :(>3 deerA perfect number!
>>79371316I would like to hope that there'd be enough of a backlash this season for her to realize that she's being a complete idiot, but Viv has no introspection.
>>79372691>>79373644The deers need to stop playing so rough
>>79373774They can always play rough with me...
>>79374069Stress relief for deer?
>My before bed pessimistic thought.As someone who has been collecting human Alastor art since the leaks I noticed something. After Episode 4 I was expecting a lot of human Al art and I was super excited. I figured everyone had stuff lined up ready to drop as soon as it was canon on screen. Much to my surprise there was hardly any. I've been actively looking and while there was some new stuff it wasn't a crazy amount, and it came out slowly. But here we are a day after we see human Vox and I'm getting bombarded with tons of fujo human RS stuff. Like, a ridiculous amount. This is actually incredibly depressing to me. No shade to RS enjoyers, you do you, but I get the feeling that most people don't actually give a shit about Alastor. They care about him only so long as he's in their fujo ships, and even then he's secondary. While I'm a strong advocate of people enjoying whatever they like, as a hardcore Alastor it feels weirdly exploitative. The same feeling I get from Viv using him to ship bait 24/7. He's just a means to an end. I think it stings worse knowing that he's never been loved for himself. He's always just been someone who has been used and then treated as if he's disposable. Whether by the men who he worked for, the people he tried to impress in his human life, Rosie, Mimzy, Charlie... Just a novelty to be gawked at or entertained by. The closest thing he had was someone who violated his boundaries and tried to harm him for having a shred of autonomy.It's late and I'm having feels/thinking too much so I should sleep though. Sometimes I forget what fandom I'm in.
>>79375566>hardcore Alastor yumeFucking sleepy fingers. I just feel so sad for my beautiful deer.
>>79375566I saw lots of human Al fanart, but that may be because I follow a lot of eastern fujo fanart accounts. I know you don't like fujo stuff, but the SEA ones really do adore Alastor as a character. Western fandom is just a constant disappointment unfortunately
>>79375566An unfortunate result of it being a vox-centric season and fujo pandering with a unhealthy lack of respect for the situations Alastor ends up in, thankfully we can love Alastor and hopefully do our best to ignore all the horrid things vivze is going to do to everyone on the show, so get some sleep and dream of deer!
>>79375721>with a unhealthy lack of respect for the situations Alastor ends up inBecause a huge fucking chunk of this fanbase despises Alastor for being mean to Husk once. "Oh no, I feel so bad for the poor serial killer" is the reason I see the SA in episode 4 get handwaved away
>>79375666Most of the stuff I did see was from Asia. I think they tend to have more respect for the characters, yeah. The western fandom is just utterly atrocious and it depresses me.>>79375721It does at least make me feel better that we still love him. He deserves that at least. And thanks, I'll try.I apologize for my vent post. Goodnight /deer/.
>>79375801>"Oh no, I feel so bad for the poor serial killer" is the reason I see the SA in episode 4 get handwaved awayAnd by that, I mean I see it used in mocking towards people Who were bothered by that scene. Because Al was mean to Husk and a serial killer, it doesn't matter if he gets SA'd, he "deserves it"
>>79375838It’s all good, have a good one!
>>79368481>>79369470>>79370486>>79370674As a damned dirty yume, I like the idea of Alastor being a rapist, but to be honest I don't think he would be below committing rape. I wouldn't consider linking him as a necrophiliac, but he always seemed like someone that got off to his murders.
>>79377716Ew. No.
I know it’s Vox/deer and deer abuse and all that but I find it silly
More deer nuggs from my doujin
>>79378668>>79379311I love deer abuse so much, thank you nuggs!
>>79379400It’s no thing!
Alastor had a little nibble
Ugh I keep having weird deer adjacent dreams. Last night I was trapped in a room full of deer merch. The night before it was a weird sexy dream about Amir. What are you trying to tell me you dumb deer??>>79379311Thanks for sharing. You know, if the green stiches on his body represent injuries like the chest wound, and you look at his limbs, there is a possibility that a deer nugget was canon at some point.
>>79375566Do you think it’s maybe because Alastor’s human design was leaked while they kept Vox’s a secret but until the last second?
>>79375566I’m a longtime radiosilence shipper Alastor is as important to the dynamic to me as the tv is. There is a reason I despise staticapple. There does seem to be a phenomenon in fujo ships will some will just treat the other character in the pair as a sentient dildo to fuck their fave. Im odd in that I’m not interested in their human versions and prefer their demon forms
>>79381081Gotta second this. This is my beef with Radioapple desu, many of its shippers treat the deer like he's just a walking dildo only there to fuck Lucifer. This is certainly not helped by the fact that the majority of Radioapple shippers are fine with shipping Lucifer with literally everyone no matter how crack but get incensed over Radiostatic. Because Alastor cannot exist outside of orbiting Lucifer to them. Sucks that the show itself is trying to encourage this, especially when Lucifer is such a grating nothingburger of a character.
>>79375566Shipping in general seems to be super prevalent in fandoms, I don't remember it ever being this bad? People seemed more chill about it in the past, idk. It's kind of why I got tired of it and started writing gen fics instead. Though I think part of the issue is that shipcontent gets way more likes. I think my gen fics are much better written, but they hardly get any hits compared to the few Radioapple fics I wrote over a year ago. I find that there's less creativity in it, like every Radioapple fic was Lucifer fixing Alastor's chest wound and they magically fall in love. Radiostatic got quite same-y to me as well, I stopped buying doujins because I didn't see the point in getting more of the same thing. One of my favourite Japanese artists who posts mostly Alcest said a while ago they're put off by all the Radiostatic because it is everywhere. I'm thinking that once the hype dies down, some of the artists who aren't really into Radiostatic will post more solo Al. I'm kind of in the mindset of let Radiostatic have its moment, and hopefully we get a break before Radioapple is everywhere. I can see why it would be annoying to someone who doesn't like Radiostatic though. >>79381081>>79381166Yup, and this annoys me because I like shipping Alastor with different people because I want to see how they would interact. Porn for the sake of porn gets boring if you are genuinely invested in the characters.
>Beautiful Alastor>Wondrous Alastor>Never seen a thing as beautiful as youuu>Shadowy demon>Got my dick and balls SCREAMING
>>79378957Imagine Alastor fucking your brains out with his tentacles while he just ignores you
>>79381058Probably not, I think more people are into Vox, and that's fine. I just get annoyed when they're basically using Al as a human dildo. In the Charlastor stuff I've written I've really tried to give Charlie autonomy to respect her character, for example. I know it's kind of silly to complain over porn, but that's the nature of being a yume I guess.>>79381081Oh, I don't mind people who actually care about the characters. We may not enjoy the same stuff, but that's a personal choice and I respect people's right to enjoy what they like. But yeah, it's just annoying to me personally that a lot of people use Al as a fetish prop and not as a character in his own right.>>79381691I don't ever remember shipping being this bad. Hell, even back when I was following SU and that shitshow of a fandom I don't remember seeing as much salt over ships. Back during the pilot days things were better, I know people complain about Charlastors but personally I think it was more of a Viv issue since she couldn't just ignore the fans. I think another issue with me personally is that I try not to consume a lot of visual porn as is, a little goes a long way, so it gets incredibly boring and repetitive after a while.
>>79381691>but they hardly get any hits compared to the few Radioapple fics I wrote over a year agoAnother major issue with Radioapple is that you can put out the same generic slop of it and still receive instant reward because it's so popular. So you've got artists and writers churning out crap to get that instant gratification/popularity hit which in turn generates more slop for social capital. It's all very soulless
I had a weird thought. Do you think Alastor telling Vox that “there are no friends in Hell” was actually him trying to help him in a mentorship way?
>>79382505Part of why I like radiosilence but not radiostatic is I can’t ever see Alastor reciprocating romantically so I don’t really like art where he does. I prefer the art where Alastor sees Vox as a friend or is his mentor and Vox is crushing on him. The art and fic where Alastor feels romantically for him in return just doesn’t work for me. I actually prefer the yuri radiostatic comics that used to be on /hhg/ because it wasn’t as rapey and a lot more wholesome. Also Millie I want to really thank you for your kindness earlier you had no reason to be so nice to a stranger on the internet.
>>79382593In a weird, roundabout way, yes. Alastor knows firsthand how trusting people in hell ends up. I think part of his outburst was sheer BPD splitting at him projecting his own insecurities on Vox, but another part was trying to warn Vox about trusting anyone.>>79382646Ah, are you the oneitis anon? I just said on /hhg/ that we were all kinda worried last night. I hope you're feeling better today. I'm kind of battle worn and occasionally salty from posting over there for years, but I don't enjoy seeing people hurt.
>>79382505The last major fandom I was in was Hetalia and I noped out of there when they started doing Nazi salutes at conventions. But even though the author put some questionable things in (France was basically a rapist half the time, for example), there was a lot of awesome fan content that didn’t completely revolve around shipping. I miss that. I really love beautiful, thoughtful art of Alastor a lot more than rushed ship art that gets pushed out for likes. >>79382539Oh yeah, my most popular fic by a mile was a stupid Father’s Day fic I wrote in about 2 hours because I thought it would be funny for Al to mess with Lucifer while he tried to have a fun day with Charlie. I’m not a big author by any means, but it makes me laugh that I could churn out crap like that over and over and get millions of kudos.
>>79382321Lol
>>79382769>HetaliaThat's a blast from the past, damn. I would have thought that I'd of been really into to that back in the day, since I was a WWII nerd in high school, but it never really clicked into my autism. I did enjoy Strike Witches though, of course that was more yuri bait than anything. I doubt a fandom like that would ever get off the ground nowadays based on the topic alone.
>>79383838I loved it because I am a massive history nerd. I’m not that into WWII, but I found it interesting in Hetalia. I basically grew up reading Horrible Histories, and probably would have studied it at uni this time round if the job prospects weren’t so abysmal. And I was a fujo, so gay pretty boys and history… literally perfect for me. I think that was the beginning of the decline of fandoms though, when cons started filling up with normies and everyone was on social media, so you couldn’t get away with dumb shit anymore. As I said, taking photos doing the nazi salute outside of Holocaust memorials in German/Prussian uniforms… dumb shit. I’ve kind of dabbled back in a few times, but most major franchises now attract the worst kind of fans. Hazbin is just that. I wonder what things would have been like if it was released a decade or so ago.
>>79382340Oh my! Very lewd, very mean deer!
>>79380794It’s possible, course it could be going for the voodoo doll look as well, but I choose to believe that he was nuggeted!>>79383838>>79384130Never got into Hetalia, looked somewhat interesting… also Gm!
>>79384253Morning! I’m definitely a deer nugget truther from this point on. Voodoo doll!Al is a cool concept but nuggets are cooler.
>>79384130I feel sad that the younger generations won't get to experience what fandom was like in the 00s. It was cringe and weird, but it was full of genuine people who had a lot of love for their fandoms. I can equate it to the dance music scene in the US. It was always popular in the UK with the whole Clubland/Ministry of Sound thing, but it was very niche in the states. Then suddenly it blows up in the early 2010s and every normie and their mother is listening to it. They start calling it EDM and acting like experts without having any working knowledge of the scene prior. It ended up crashing in popularity because normies made it bland, unoriginal, and pushed out the creatives that made it fun. I'm seeing this happen across the board with things like film, fandom, vidya, music...I suppose it's just the proliferation of the internet and normies getting exposed to things that would have previously been segregated to small, devoted groups.>>79384253Good morning Nuggs!
>>79384352Alastor is cool in general, no matter what he looks like!
>>79384417Good morning!
>>79384417Yes, it was a fun time, and now we’re left with… this. No fun allowed soulless garbage. I’m glad I don’t have to grow up today. I hate to be all back in my day about things, but everything was just better. >>79384428Alastor is the coolest in every form.
>>79384734Speaking of cool, alastors fight scenes weren't too bad this season, could of been better but not bad at all!
>>79385488Yes! He had some really cool moments this season. I hope we get more of that next season, now that he's free of his deal and has his staff fixed. I wonder if he might go back to adding screams to his broadcast, since he said to Vox he wanted to add his. I kind of assume Rosie asked him to stop, it would be nice to find out what exactly she made him do for all those years.
>>79386270>>79385639We will have to see how vivzeslop canon goes I hope it will be somewhat interesting. I feel he might get sidelined again till season four…
Big deer
>>79386326From what Viv is already yapping about, Alastor is going to have a villain arc next season. Though I could see it as him doing stuff in the shadows now that he's free, and ending up releasing Roo at the end of the season or something, and being more in focus in season 4. We'll have to wait and see when it inevitably leaks.
>>79387552daisies and roses
>>79387660Poor little guy...
>>79387738He is used to it! Though a good hug and kiss won’t hurt
>>79383838>I did enjoy Strike Witches thoughHoly god, I memory holed that anime. Goddamn, I feel old
>>79338358I really don't mind any of the Alastor ships but I cannot STAND the Emily one and people won't shut up about it on /co/
>>79389554Aw, I like it. But I liked it before they ever interacted. If it helps, Viv already said that Alastor probably doesn't give a shit that Emily saved him.
>>79389831Oh did she? I didnt see that!
>>79389842Yeah, it was in an interview. She said that Hell saw it and saw that an angel tried to save a sinner, and that has an impact on them while Alastor probably doesn't care about it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfc7InvBevk
>>79389554>>79389831>>79389842well you can at least cross off one ship fandom out of the alastor shipping discussion with pic relatedcharlastor sisters...they'll probably still bait you with some crumbs anyway
>>79389035I remember reading the manga, it was a little too wholesome for me, but enjoyable. I like more realistic angsty yuri if I'm going to dip into it.>>79389908Thanks for making his personality continue to stay shallow Viv. Great job.
>>79390190I severely doubt Charlastor would ever happen, but Amir takes the absolute piss, so I wouldn't put much credit to his retardation. He'll be back to baiting it next week.
>>79390190I mean... After all the shit Viv's been doing, did anyone still think it might make it into the show? Alastor should have no canon ships, and everyone should ship what they want in fanon without drama brought on by the creator.>>79390206He's just an asshole, after all. I just think she's salty when the fandom's headcanons are better than her own ideas.
>>79390263Amir can be so annoying sometimes…
>>79390376>she's salty when the fandom's headcanons are better than her own ideas.Feels about right, she is petty like that
>>79390766Viv? Petty? Never.
>>79390893Never ever!
>>79390190To be perfectly honest, I don't know how anyone can still ship Charlastor after season 2. Between her not caring about him and him now no longer needing to use her anymore, it feels like Viv went out of her way to kill it.
>>79391272Charlie is just a shit character all around now. I really hate that.
>>79337188I don't know why, but I feel kinda cucked this season.
>>79339166Why would Emily fall in love with Alastor though? They've only had contact for like, 0.2 seconds in the show.
>>79391494Genuinely could remove Charlie from the show and nothing would change about it, which is sad :( Chorli was so sweet in the pilot
