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Go Army, Beat Navy
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Gideon forcefeeding Pawbert with copious amount of pies and fattening him up.
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>>79883119
What am I looking at
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>>79883148
Much as I hate all the AI stuff, I think Google is winning (aside for nvidia that's making all the money on the planet). They're dumb enhanced search engine thing is getting smarter and smarter. He just straight up knows so much niche shit.
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Does anyone have that image that was posted here once of the captured hyenas that only needed to be blindfolded to stay in custody because it makes them think it's night and then they all just fall asleep
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@bpbpimasheep
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RIP Jewdy :(
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>>79883887
>ad mutt
>psycho cat
>??
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>>79886668
>amadose vore
yikes
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>>79887193
amadose anything really
a friend who actually did cuckolding told me that this guy's comic is just straight up cheating/ntr pretending to be a cuck comic. It's the least realistic portrayal of the fetish as far she has seen.

Makes me want to actually want to write and actually do a good cuckolding comic because she actually told me her experiences on what parts she found the most intimate and sexy, like the reclaiming sex after each session, with her bf fucking harder and longer than the bull did.

But then again, its still the problem that Judy and Nick to be into it in the first place is simply out-of-character, so I would probably use OCs for it instead
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>>79886812
Bradley the Badger from some weird meta game starring Evan Peters
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>>79887406
Normally I don't care what porn people like. I mean I'm not fucking or ntr but it's whatever. With Nick and Judy though it makes me sad. My brain is too hard wired of them being happy together where no cuck/ntr is needed. Also fuck the abortion comic.
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>>79887722
>not into cucking or ntr
I need to proofread more.
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>>79887722
Forgot to mention cause it's kinda funny in context. The other image to >>79884936 had me roll my eyes not just cause of how off model Judy is, but because she was taking on a bunch of guys. I immediately thought oh another image of Judy fucking everyone but... then it hit me as I saw the bottom of the image. Honestly the cutest, and best way for my brain to enjoy a Judy group session. Not knocking the artists style I just prefer them closer on model, but bonus points for the idea.
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>>79887747
>>79887722
yeah same, I don't really care much for it, porn is porn, but with Judy and Nick it feels like they deserve more comics giving them happyness together instead.
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>>79888068
>but because she was taking on a bunch of guys
I think you misunderstood that picture.
she was dreaming of a bunch of Nicks

Like, that's something a lot of artists did before, Judy thinking of Nick as so sexy, that she wants a whole horde of Nicks to fuck her.
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>>79889186
Pawbert fags can never recover
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>>79888464
>Pic
Damn remember when this artist was SFW only and then drew these pics.
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>>79889186
Thats the whole point of the storys moral as well, that its okay to be different and you should talk things out before they go too far.
Not only did he double down when offered a way out, but he TRIPLED down when following into Garys old home and trying to burn everything down which I could only interpret as the writers way of completely demolishing any hopes of redemption for him.
Not saying it cant happen, but they pretty explicitly tried to make him an actual villain at the end.
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Second screening done. Love it just as much if not a little more this time. I feel like I noticed more things but also was able to see it in a slightly different headspace this time which made some of the issues I had seem less problematic when re examining, while also affirming what the pros and cons were overall.
I just wish I could see it in IMAX but theres no places closeby right now.
Maybe later I can get to one but Im not sure how long they will screen this for, anyone know?
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>>79889186
Then why the fuck did he have him read the dummies book and look melancholic when being shoved into the van and in prison?
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>>79889713
he still wants his father's respect
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>>79888464
Yeah that's what I noticed and tried to explain, that I liked the idea cause she was surrounded by Nick. Her dreaming of being teamed up on only seems appealing because it's all Nick. That's interesting cause it ties into her utter love only for Nick.
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>Maybe later I can get to one but Im not sure how long they will screen this for, anyone know?
At least through the end of the year.
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>>79889186
>he got pretty murd
smmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooch
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>>79889775
They will redeem him. Or I will do it my damn self.

Plus, Judy’s ideology doesn’t seem to be compatible with never offering redemption. It would take a lot, but it feels like they dropped too many hints of him having room for growth despite all that and made him too complex a character to just be tossed out. I hope his popularity pushes their hand a bit, too.
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>>79889186
Tell him not to take 10 fucking years for part 3 goddamn.
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>>79889209
white man has no say in chinese cinema
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>>79890079
Damn, Id hope it goes a bit into January as well.
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I like Pawbert and I’d like to see him redeemed. Though he can change and become a better person, he probably won’t get released anytime soon.

IRL, he’d be charged with three counts of attempted murder by poisoning and one count of attempted murder by exposure (deliberately leaving someone to die in the cold counts as intent to kill), plus arson of a dwelling. In the US, each victim is its own felony, so that’s usually 20–25 years per attempted murder, and courts can stack those sentences because there were multiple victims. Add another 10–20 years for the arson, and you’re easily looking at 100+ years or straight-up life in prison, with parole either very far off or not happening at all. Redemption arc? Possible. Freedom anytime soon? Not really.
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https://x.com/DJT_AKA/status/1999411554668982575
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>>79890413
Misplay by the writers, should’ve had him be convinced to turn in his family for a reduced sentence, theoretically he could still testify on their other crimes.
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>>79890413
>>79890550
they are rich and networked
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>>79889186
>>79889657
>>79890153
>>79890413
>>79890550

It's okay for an asshole villain to be explicitly nothing but an asshole villain, even if that makes them a disappointing part of the story.

Having watched a few times now I don't see really any hope for a canon redemption for pawbert.

As said he tripled down after several attempted murders. And Nick knows him pretty much exclusively as the guy who came across as trustworthy first and then tried to kill Judy and then him.

Betraying their trust and attempting to kill the most important person in Nick's life? Nick wants Pawbert in a dark hole for the rest of time at the very least.

If Pawbert had had more development as a character before his turn, OR if he had chosen instead to break from his family after spending time with Gary and Judy, I would have found him much more interesting.

As it is, the turn and arc we got pretty well killed any interest I had in his nuance or motives. Bad guy is bad. He wound up taking time away from wildehopps more than anything, for me.

As a writer, the most value I get out of him so far is the baggage pawbert has now given wildehopps to sort through. Judy especially nearly died, and if Nick had done the barest of things differently several times, she would have.
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>>79890603
could be just localization.

In hungarian version his entire name is changed from Pawbert Lynxley to Mancsibáld Hiúzton
(Paw=Mancs + Archibald, Lynx=Hiúz + Hueston)
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>>79890627
I reject your reasonable take because…my fluffy boy failure baby…

He’s the only villain to have shown any ounce of remorse in the small amount of time we see him in prison, his background explanation (not excuse) sets up a layup of a redemption. Zootopia ‘s about being capable of being anything. Pawbert can become a good guy and feel true love, too!

I mean, I really do doubt it, but I also find they don’t develop characters like that without bringing them back. I mean, even a hamfisted villain like Bellweather showed up. So I guess at least we can imagine he might be in the next movie at least. Jared at least seems to imply there’s an argument it being subjective.

I’ll just headcanon it in the end anyway because it’s more interesting than not.
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>>79890754
They don’t have the balls to do a difficult redemption. Nick with his scams is as far as they’re willing to go.

Karen is going to murder someone though, and she gets to be a police officer. The pigs were trying to kill Judy and Nick for half the movie, too.
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>>79890754
so people are just too broken to change, pawbby doubled down cause he already went this far to get his dad's apporval which was everything to him so far it outweights his other emotional connections, so unless he gets massive therapy or a bf(me) he will never change
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>>79890939
I can fix him. He’s reading the book.
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>>79890957
On the matter of the book - who's the best partner for him, Gary?

I mean that's probably a heavy lift in canon too, given the things Pawbert ended up doing to him.

God I would have loved a scene or two of Pawbert and Gary on the boat Gary was smuggled in on. Even more if it set up Pawbert to reject his family in the end.
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>>79891111
I think Gary would forgive, but my read is he reads the book and realize he doesn’t need the love of his abusive family because they’ve never been good partners to him.

Also, me, I’m the partner for him.
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From my understanding female bunnies punch their mates or chosen mates with their paws and it's called boxing. Judy did this a bunch of times to Nick in the sequel. They really want me jonesing for closure.
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a few years in prison with his father having to be close to him, working on the partership stuff, will fix pawbert
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>>79891246
Feline incest fans eating good. You think he makes the others watch?
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For me a reason it's so important that Nick and Judy become canon, along with them being so perfect for each other and obviously have feelings for one another, is cause I can relate with Nick. Childhood trauma, closed yourself off really hard, you thought maybe things were getting better, but no they weren't. Difference is there was no Judy for me. No person that turned around and said sorry and helped picked up the pieces that they helped break. Sure it's on me for not ever finding the will to fix them myself, but if I had had a Judy it may have been different.

I just want to see the poor broken hearted fox get his happily ever after with the bunny who was pushed even further into becoming an officer because of a mean bully fox.
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>>79891763
I literally had a Judy (smol, tough, kind, optimistic wanted to be a cop, heart of gold, liked me) in my life right around when the first movie came out and I let her go for what feels like the dumbest reasons in hindsight. It's a long story, but one my life's biggest regrets.
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>>79886668
It all will be over soon.
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>>79892057
For me I was doing the best I could, and I was accomplishing a lot I was trying to do. I was also supportive of her, told her many times she should quit her job at the late night gas station cause it got robbed and she coulda got shot. In the end she broke it off with me though and told me a week later she was seeing someone else, so she was probably cheating on me. So either I'm a bad judge of character, or I'm not worth it. Either way it makes me feel like shit and I just don't have any trust left to give.
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I just watched the movie.
Pawbert can be "redeemed" as much as a person with multiple attempted murders can be.
Some blue collar worker at best
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>>79892057

Funny, I was just about to ask if any other Wildehoppsers out there think wanting the ship has to do with personal history, maybe not solely but partly.
Trying to be introspective I think it may be for me but its hard to be sure, tons of people ship them and my personal experience is nowhere near 1:1 anyway. Would be interesting to know anyone out there who has never had bad luck with love but still want these two together.
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>>79892952
Damn. Well, it was nothing quite that traumatic for me, just a lot of really bad timing, low self-esteem and unhealthy perfectionism from me. I thought I was doing the right thing and giving her space, but I was just anxious about losing what we had as friends. It was entirely my fault in other words.

>>79893165
I'd be lying to myself and everyone else if I tried to pretend that there wasn't some personal history wrapped up in how much I connect with these two characters and want them to be happy together.
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>>79893165
Another anon thats been here 9 years.
Yeah I want it cause I never had a relationship this strong, I'm probably also projecting.
Also read hmofa fics for the same reason.
Idk it's fun
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>>79894219
I mean lets be honest, pretty much no relationship is this strong.

But I wonder what it means for us potentially projecting. Obviously it can be a source of happiness and dread, maybe seeing it turn out as we hope will just placate us for a moment until we continue to want more, or maybe it gives courage and strength for our own lives going forward.

Maybe this isnt so unusual, its just two characters with great chemistry. 50 years ago did some feel the same about Disneys Robin Hood for a close comparison, or is this somehow special?

I dont really know, I guess most others here dont either. All I know is that its rare for me to care so much, but I want it to happen more than any other ship.

Gn buners.
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>>79894860
I'm ok with a standard relationship lol.
We're so alone that these characters are drugs to us
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>>79896051
shoot
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>>79896051
She wasn't so bad and she could see Nick had feelings for Judy. Either everyone else is stupid or never gives a damn to try and support him. She's cool in my book for that alone.
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>>79896498
She was good for the first half
She became annoying for the second half



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