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Something cute I saw mentioned. Nick when he's touching Judy in 2, usually to move her out of the way of something or be protective, is very gentle and puts his hands on her shoulders respectfully. Judy however gets excited a lot and just kind hits Nick on the arm repeatedly throughout the film. Which is a thing female bunnies do called boxing, with their mates. I am going to crash hard if 3 doesn't give us something concrete and/or a kiss.
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>>79975956
I keep seeing boxing with their mates mentioned, but I've never actually seen any kind of a source for it. Everything I've ever been able to find talks about boxing as being a a means of communication, generally fear or distress, a "hey stop doing that, that upsets me".
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>>79975956
>the way he gently grabs her ear with his fingers and whispers into it to remind her the safe word is coconut when they're getting into Nibbles' car

*chef's kiss*
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>>79976013
A little googling mentions it in courtship with suitors and in the wild so it seems to not just be tied to Judy and Zootopia.

>>79976079
This probably ties to something she helped him study for his graduation or maybe a case the past week. Still Nick being funny with her but probably dying inside for wanting to go that far makes me sad.
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>>79976013
Maybe its not mate, but suitor like mentioned above? So even if Judy doesn't realize it, and wouldn't even consider a different one, she might subconsciously see Nick as a suitor and hit him in the arm a lot. It'd be cute if they visited the farm for something and she started going off on Nick's mom and Bonnie noticed and smiled. Mentioning to Judy she's a very lucky bun and Judy not understanding.
>I think you will soon, dear.
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>>79976211
>mom
Oh that's a bad time to fuck up. Go off on Nick's arm, god dammit.
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>>79976263
How is Pawbert a cheap copy of Gideon?
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>>79976211
>>79976158
I see the problem here, it seems boxing suitors is a hare behavior, rather than a rabbit one.
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>>79976394
It's possible they messed up and didn't realize the difference. So let's just say it's a Judy thing? The general gist of the subtext is the same.
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>>79976502
I mean, youve seen Jareds tweet on this right?

Any Anons out there got the image?
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Just finished watching the movie. Post requests I’ll draw them when I get back home or something
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>>79976980
Nibbles showing off her paws, please.
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>>79976980
anything wildehopps the movie inspired you
like them dancing in their gala outfits
>or sneak a quicky under one of the tables
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>>79976727
There ya go, thanks
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>>79976980
No requests, just wonder what you thought of the movie?
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>>79976980
gideon meeting judy in the gala
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>>79977416
So Gideon in a suit.
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>>79976980
Joel and the badger.
Or anything you want
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>>79977437
>Joel and the badger.
That's an interesting idea. Doing what?
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>>79977457
I think she was called Karen.
Maybe hanging out in their van like in the movie.
Or both of them together on duty.
Or they strangling each other
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>>79977494
I still don't get why the sprayer didn't work on her.
>get the hose
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>>79976660
This is the one that matters.
>>79976980
I didn't watch the new movie yet, so what about the cute pig from the DMV in ZT1, just being cute?
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>>79977437
>>79977457
Ohh I like that, the idea that Karen secretly likes Joel is kinda cute and funny.
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>>79977433
basically
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>>79977662
I wonder if Joel is Louis' cousin.
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>>79976980
Pawbert cornered by daddy in the cell
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>>79978218
I’d find him in the prison and make him hold my pocket. I’d treat him good and protect him from his awful family.
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>>79977116
Judy already looks so goddamn adorable and Nick already so goddamn suave in their gala outfits.

>>79977281
Honestly, I really liked it. For some reason, this felt like it had more to show compared to the first movie. More action, more character development. At times I wanted to just cringe at Judy cuz of how many times she put Nick in danger while being dismissive of him. Nick on the other hand felt lost enough to realize that he can't stop her without realizing he needs to challenge Judy's perspective, not going around it in the guise that he cares cuz it's not going anywhere.

Oh and they totally fucked. They gotta. It had to have happened
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>>79978512
Did you draw this? Very cute! What do you use to draw?
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>>79978835
Clip Studio Paint
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>>79978512
alec!! good to see you again!
judy and nick were barely in the gala scene, i love any piece with them in their gala suit.
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>>79978897
Do you draw with an iPad or a Wacom tablet?
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>>79978918
Hiyo haha. They definitely look like an absolute treat. I wish there were more scenes with them in it.

>>79979020
Wacom tablet, specifically a Cintiq 22 HD
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>>79978512
Holy shit -- new Zoot Alex art! It's a holiday miracle!
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>>79979079
Sorry -- mistyped Alec
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>>79978512
I don't think they did, they've known each other for 1 year more or less.
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>>79978512
I also felt that, Z2 was probably even faster paced than the first one, but I felt like it did more with the characters than Z1.
I don't know why
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>>79978512
Judy's perspective was that they had to solve the case or not be partners anymore. So she does care about him, but I think that while she's falling for him through the movie it doesn't snap for her until he and her almost die. Obviously if they're going to make them a couple at all it'll be part 3, so that's the real reason they didn't say anything in the hug scene. Character-wise? Nick might still be afraid, or he doesn't want to push it out of fear of going too fast since Judy is the one he doesn't want to fuck up. Judy maybe it just clicked and she's processing it all and she's just happy he's alive.

Could you draw them kissing after their big hug scene?
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>>79979214
What's also good is that you could argue that Judy doesn't care as much as Nick does, but that's certainly not true! They express their love in different ways. The character writing for these two is something else.
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>>79979114
Let me fantasize senpai

>>79979214
Mhm, very much true. The dynamic really shed itself during the hug scene and I was super glad it was addressed in a meta-comedic manner which still felt like that's kinda the thing they'd definitely do. Something about characters realizing their development I guess.

I'd draw more, but I'm beat, it's like 2AM where I am and I watched the movie late into the night.
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>>79978512
Hi Alec! Yeah it does have more in the sense that everything is going by faster, but I also feel that less is more at times so it depends on what you like and how you view it, but its a great sequel for sure.
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>>79979278
Exactly, this is also a big message of the movie, our differences can be a good thing.

>>79979432
Night buner
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>>79979432
>I'd draw more, but I'm beat, it's like 2AM where I am and I watched the movie late into the night.
Australia?
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>>79979432
I mean after the events of 2 they could have got an apartment while chasing Bellweather and been like these past two weeks have me spent, Nick. Nick without thinking just blurts out you're spent and I'm pent up, we both need a... before catching himself turning red drooping his ears and looking directly at Judy. I mean we saw their emotion dump so we know there's something there. Maybe it's just a little friends with benefits between movies that we don't see until we can get our true love bomb and kiss?
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>>79979607
Singapore

>>79979619
There were like, 3 instances where they just played with the audience as if they were a couple and there was even a "love you" bomb that made a couple squeal in the few seats behind us
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>>79979695
Did you watch the movie in English or Chinese? I've heard the Chinese are going crazy over Zootopia.
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>>79979432
People were mad at how dumb Nick and Judy were in this and I would almost agree until the hug scene. They both know what they're doing the entire movie. They both know why they're doing it. They know what they're doing is either dangerous or bad for the case. They do it because they care about the other. Their character is their flaws, not their shining perfect positives. I don't think it was bad writing at all. The whole movie is pushing forward to solve a case to keep them together, but it's dangerous. Nicks entire world is this bunny who to me in my opinion he has already fallen madly in love with probably before the gala but I think the gala is when it starts to show. I hope 3 doesn't prove me wrong, but I've been wrong in love my whole life so lol what do I know.
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>>79979742
English. I don't speak Chinese. But there were Chinese subtitles and the natively english speaking movies here are shown in english dubs.

>>79979758
I feel like it isn't wrong to feel mad initially. I'd be mad too if a friend of mine started acting like that to their significant other. Not every intention is the best and it's often that one doesn't realize the consequence of a decision out of said intention. The pay off is some cathartic resolution when both characters finally go through the development they need to get a stronger relationship.

My only gripe is that Judy, despite putting Nick in danger, still didn't manage a single spoken "sorry" to Nick after that hug scene.
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this but with Nick and Nibbles
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>>79976980
Gazelle stripping off her ending scene dance outfit
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>>79980357
What store is this
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>>79980357
Nock and jondy
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>>79976980
Nick and the cowgirl lizard

Also the fuck is this new Captch, what is this image scroll dogshit they are making me do, I'm tired of them changing this shit to be more annoying every year after 2020
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>>79980357
they know da wae
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>>79980019
That's my only gripe with the emotion dump after the hug scene. If Judy had thrown in a sorry, just a tiny little one. Just a "sorry for how stubborn I've been this whole case Nick, we just mean so much to me" would have made it perfect.
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>>79980818
>we just mean so much to me
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>>79980337
That ass got bigger since 1 and the animators shook it as on purpose. I demand they get a raise.
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>>79980818
She didn't say the word "sorry" but I thought that she was. I don't think it's a case of a woman getting away with it kinda situation.
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>>79975838
Genuine question... is the ONLY thing you guys talk / care about WildeHopps? Is there no end to your desire for them? There's literally hundreds upon thousands of images and fanfiction depicting what ya'll want to happen between them and yet one anti-WildeHopps shows up and you guys act like it's heresy for me to have different tastes / desires for the characters.

I am driven by spite very easily and so badly want to see something fucking different. This fandom has the most rabid shippers I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing, and I'm into Stranger Things so I have a good reference point.

Here's an image I made waaay back in 2017 of Nick and Skye, what I headcanon her to look like (a corsac fox, or perhaps a red fox with leucisim, you pick)... I have had a fanfic idea knocking around for so so long, would rather make it a comic but I just suck too hard at these designs to comfortably make what I want.
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>>79981072
No, I only care about Pawbertxme
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>>79980818
I don't think it needed to be said once they explained to each other why they had both acted the way they did. I mean, that basically was them apologising to each other. I also don't think that Nick would even want her to outwardly apologise for what is her most character-defining trait that he (normally) finds endearing, possibly even attractive.
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>>79981072
I prefer judeon
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>>79981072
The millisecond WildeHopps becomes canon, no one will give a crap about it anymore. That's why I'm glad they tease it.
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>>79981072
I ship bunnies with foxes. But I don´t mind some fox on fox action.
What do you thing about Jack and Judy?
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>>79978782
hnggh

>>79978512
CUTE
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>>79981072
Don't you realize this franchise is purely, 100% about Judy and Nick?
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>>79981277
Not if they kept the shock collar plot.
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>>79981360
Exactly, that movie got scraped.
So stop whining then
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>>79981072
I already explained that it has nothing to do with your opinion. It's your nasty, entitled "I'm right about everything, you're all wrong, end of discussion." tone of voice. Almost everything you say is just complaining about how other people have opinions that aren't yours. You just seem like a very bitter and miserable person that always has to bring everyone else down.
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>>79981072
>Genuine question
Tits or GTFO
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>>79981072
>Is there no end to your desire for them?
And you're talking about your own ship going all the way back from 2017. Talk about projecting.
>This fandom has the most rabid shippers I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing
Yup, projecting.

If you can't handle WildeHopps, you're in the wrong fandom. Move on. There's already 2 canon fox/vixen couples from Disney. You could spend your time on those instead.
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Judy about to visit Nick in order to fuck his brain out.
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>>79981557
>there's already 2 canon fox/vixen couples from Disney
Robin Hood and The Fox and the Hound, right?
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>>79981642
Yes, unless there's more I don't know about?
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>>79981557
>>79981642
Those are pretty old movies. They are over 50 years old. How about a new fox/vixen couple for this century?
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>>79981663
>How about a new fox/vixen couple for this century?
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Interspecies relationships are woke
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>>79981729
>Interspecies relationships are woke
Says who
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>>79981742
I'm not going to spoonfeed you, just consider it for a moment
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>>79981277
Two whole goddamn movies that revolve almost entirely around the interpersonal dynamics of the two main characters who are of the opposite gender, and they STILL can't understand why the thing that most people are interested in first and foremost is how they'd like to see that relationship progress.

I'd be happy to discuss any other aspect of either film, but it's seems like there isn't a ton of interest here about the filmmaking stuff that I care about.
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>>79980818
Thinking on it her whole emotion dump is kind of like a sorry, isn't it? It's a long one even if she doesn't say it.

>>79981072
>Genuine question... is the ONLY thing you guys talk / care about WildeHopps?
Pic related.
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>>79981914
I thought he was Arnold Schwarzenegger reference.
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>>79981914
They had a horse as mayor with Arnold being a clear inspiration and they didn't get him to voice the character so he could have him say “I'll be buck.“?
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>>79982036
>>79982042
I haven't seen the movie yet so I don't know his personality but I really only saw Fabio Lanzoni in his appearance. He literally just looks like Fabio as a horse to me
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Tits or GTFO
>"Ok, fine..."
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>>79982348
I have to admit I'm genuinely impressed.
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>>79981821
>I'd be happy to discuss any other aspect of either film, but it's seems like there isn't a ton of interest here about the filmmaking stuff that I care about.
What do you care about then? Contrary to most people's takes here I believe the second movie had the stronger worldbuilding.
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>>79982368
Now I need a green sweater. Is Pawbert's sweater based off something real or it's something they made up for the movie?
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>>79981382
>"a very bitter and miserable person that always has to bring everyone else down."
That's every anti
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>>79982374
Animation, art direction, character development, worldbuilding, cinematography, lighting, music, editing, acting...

Even when talking about WildeHopps stuff I try to consider it from a screenwriter's perspective, rather than just a purely emotional one.

>Contrary to most people's takes here I believe the second movie had the stronger worldbuilding.
In terms of exploring new and interesting locations, and demonstrating how all these different species actually live together? I think you might be right on that point. I guess we don't really see a lot of closeup detail in the first movie past "This is the hot district". "This is the cold district", and so on.
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Baby, I don't need dollar bills to have fun tonight
(I love cheap thrills)
Baby, I don′t need dollar bills to have fun tonight
(I love cheap thrills)
But I don't need no money
As long as I can feel the beat
I don′t need no money
As long as I keep dancing
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>>79982744
What's interests me in the first episode is the nudist retreat, where it's tacitly shown that there's still a trace of wildness in mammals where they would prefer not to wear clothes and hust go au natural. They touched a bit on this in Marsh Market where Nibbles comments that it's the only place where you could forgoe bottom garments and not get yelled at.
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I kinda wish I could email Jared or Byron. Not for anything stupid like begging them to make Wildehopps canon, since no matter how much I want it begging them wouldn't change what they want or are allowed to do. I'd just like to thank them for making characters that I actually care about and want to see what happens to them going forward.
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>>79983511
You can just tell them on twitter.
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>>79983602
Sure but the amount of messages they get on twitter it likely would just get buried and go unseen. Though I guess the same could be said of an email, though email seems more likely to be glanced at.
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Due to curiosity and hoping against hope I looked up what year of the rooster meant. As far as the Chinese are concerned could new beginnings pertain to love? Cause if there's any sort of connection there maybe they could push to get 3 out for '29.
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>>79983829
wat
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>>79983869
never mind had a retard moment and forgot which thread this was
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>I looked up what year of the rooster meant
It means there will be a ton of cock jokes in these threads
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I like Stedilnik's old tactical art
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>>79983869
Well 3 deals with birds, and Chinese year of the rooster is 2029. Since the Chinese market is a huge chunk of the fan base the speculation is they may try to market to them heavily.
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Do you think Nick is circumcised or uncircumcised?
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>>79984032
makes sense, isn't 2025 year of the snake?
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>>79984011
Stedilnik and Yitexity were my first introductions to quality Zootopia AUs and stories.
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>>79981072
You just posted a temper tantrum, with a picture of Nick bowling one of his many sexual conquests, years before Judy came into his life.
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>>79981205
Says you. Loser
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>>79984049
You don't do that to canine penises.

>>79984061
Yes, it's why I'm hoping that speculation has some merit. The movie has a decoded message hinting about the next movie and the stinger after credits so maybe they're in preproduction already?
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>>79981205
I'd be enthralled. I'd want to see where they go next. How will their love impact cases? Will they have kits? We can watch them at home before a case really takes off, or in between doing case tasks. I'll just be happier as I discuss things.

>>79984011
This artists ghost girl character always makes me sad. I want to see where her story goes even though there's no real happy ending for her.
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How do you like your Judy? Modest chest with a more pronounced pear shaped lower body or absolutely shortstack proportions?
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>>79984528
Body of the right, hips of the left.
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>>79984049
It's complicated. I want to say circumcised because that's what normal modern humans are (uncircumcised cocks are as primitive and as savage as Aztec sacrifices), but circumcising animals would be more complicated because of thick, furry prepuces, etc. Because Zootopian cocks are like real-life animal cocks in their shape, size, and special features (knot, baculum, etc.), it stands to reason that circumcision is neither practiced nor not practiced -- Zootopian cocks just are.
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>>79985125
Never met a nigga who think about penis more than this dude
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>>79984139
I can't believe Zootopia got a sequel before Yitexity finished his comic.
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>>79985125
This is bait, but circumcising is older and more primitive than Aztec sacrifices.
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Judy prefers circumcised guys.
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>>79976980
Please draw Pawbert having sex with Gary in his desert tent
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>>79985236
I'm still seething we didn't get a resolution yet.
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>>79983934
>"Hey, stop choking your chicken..."
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I dont get it
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>>79986047
"Love ya, partner. But I am still me, so I'm only saying it once a decade"
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>>79986047
Disney's gonna cuck me out of a happy ending I just know it. The suits or something stupid will fuck with it and whenever 3 finally comes out in 2045 it'll just be a tease maybe. I don't know why I feel this pessimistic after loving 2 so much but the more doom and gloom I see people spread the more it takes root.
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>>79986272
It won't come out in 2045. Before 2035 is a given. They know what it's at stake.
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>>79986312
10 years, even 2030 still feels like awhile for a movie with a teaser end credit scene and a coded hidden message in it.
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>>79986207
This is a callback to another scene right?
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>>79981102
Based
>>79981175
I don't like that either but I see why people ship it... enemies to lovers and all that
>>79981205
I am doubtful of this line of thinking; rather I think the shippers will cream themselves if it becomes canon
>>79981245
I just despise predxprey shipping. JudyxJack is a fun concept but like NickxSkye there is a heavy lacking of such content. It doesn't help that the concept characters have no... characterization. So fans can have fun creating personalities / occupations for them, but it really seems like people have little to no interest in such. It doesn't help almost all Jack and Skye artwork is low quality or the person drawing them has an ugly art style.
(1/2)
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>>79981277
Yeah, I'm aware - and I am well aware why the fandom ships them so hard. I see it. I get it. I just don't like it. Like this anon said >>79981360 if they kept the original plot, then I'd have liked the movie infinitely more because it would have been more interesting and also Nick would have been the TRUE main character... shame he got sidelined for Judy.
>>79981382
I am literally not here to "bring anyone down" I am not "nasty or entitled" but you are pissing me off by telling me what I am. I do not like to be told who or what I am or what I'm doing. If my disdain for WildeHopps hurts you so personally I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's your problem, not mine, and I want people to ship whatever they want - all I ask for is some fucking variety in art and discussion in this fandom.
>>79981414
I swear I'd post em if my bf wasn't overprotective. He got paranoid last time I posted tits (granted, on /b/) because people recognized me and posted my first name... spelled correctly. Which means they did know who I was.
>>79981557
Please genuinely shut the fuck up. My ship that I have, in private, with me the literal only fucking person in this whole fandom who ships it, barely fucking posted about in almost 10 fucking years has reignited in my mind only when I rewatch the first movie and watched the second. If I was "projecting" so hard like you think I am, I would be obsessively posting fanart of MY ship, obsessively WRITING about my ship, and would also be ACTIVELY attacking WildeHopps fans when I don't give TWO SHITS if ya'll wanna ship your shit. Ship whatever you want. I have as much right to publicly post about my ship as everyone else.
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>>79986585
This is (2/2) btw. Forgot to put that at the end.
I'm having fun banter with all ya'll, if you wanna be sour bitches about me not worshipping your ship then so be it. I'm here for discussion not to echo chamber with all of you.
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>>79986535
>there is a heavy lacking of such content for two fandom characters, one of which is just Nick as a secret agent, and the other that was just like two images of concept art
Just let it go already, fucking hell.
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>>79986181
>>79986207
I thought the sequel coming out would have been more fun for the thread. Breathe life into it and all that. But it's literally just been months of people quoting spoilers from the movie. Damn we're worse than MLP
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>>79986731
Yeah it's literally 2 guys on /co/ obsessed with pawber and 2 guys on here obsessed with their own autism.
Asia twitter has been the best space for me
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>>79986047
I'd kind of like something like this where they're on the couch and Judy just lays in his lap and looks up at him. She just wants to hear him say he loves her, but genuinely without him trying to hide it behind his snarkiness since it's kind of his defensive mechanism. So she lovingly looks him in the eyes, starts tearing up, and just says she loves him. Tells him it's ok if it hurts him too much to say it like this yet, that she'll wait as long as it takes, but that she loves him ever so deeply.
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>>79986535
I'll bite then. What's your take on Skye's personality and how does she fit in Nick's life? I ship WildeHopps for life, but I also enjoy some others on the side.
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>>79986888
>>79986904
Very sweet.
Also, ouch.
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>>79986683
It's ripe for creative freedom - breeding grounds not unlike those in the MLP fandom where people would take literal 1-second background characters and form entire personalities / stories from these literal who type of ponies. I don't get why that blank slate sort of thing wouldn't be enticing to someone who enjoys creating fanart or writing.
>>79986881
I like to think he knew her in high school and they were a thing. To me, based only on the concept art, I see Skye like a tomboy, but also a daddy's girl, because in my little headcanon, that's why she's a mechanic. Her father (raising her by himself, either her mother died or it's a "Pretty in Pink" situation where her mother walked out on them both) has a mechanic business and she loves her dad so much and is so tight with him that she chooses to go into that. I'm thinking Watts from Some Kind of Wonderful, that sorta character.

I like to think she was one of a handful of other predator animals with whom Nick colluded with regularly when young, but she is taken away from him just after graduation and leaves Zootopia, not really of her own volition but rather because her father has to move his business. So in the little hypothetical fanfic I'll probably never write anyway, she eventually returns to Zootopia and indeed remembers Nick, but is too afraid to reach out because she thinks he's taken by Judy and she doesn't want to "interfere"... sadly she is unable to continue the mechanic gig after her father's passing (the two were not well-off but got by fine enough as a father-daughter team) and desperate for work she applies as a masseuse in Tundra Town, a parlour which normally discriminates and only hires arctic vixens. They're short staffed, though, and cut her a break and take her up due to needing more paws.

Nick would somehow get hurt on the job / pull a muscle or something, then go to Tundra Town's massage parlour. Then they reunite.
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>>79981072
>styg
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So what God must I pray to to ensure Zoot 3 releases this decade?
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>>79986731
reptiles good
birds soon
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>>79986585
>I am literally not here to "bring anyone down" I am not "nasty or entitled"
I didn't say you were nasty and entitled, I said your *tone of voice* is. I didn't say that you were here to bring anyone down, I said you *seem* like someone who is. You said that people were acting like it's heresy for you to have different tastes / desires for the characters, I'm trying to tell you that it's less about that and more about how you come across in the way that you communicate that's putting everyone off. Perhaps you could try doing some reading comprehension exercises so that you can avoid this misunderstanding in the future.

>you are pissing me off by telling me what I am. I do not like to be told who or what I am or what I'm doing.
If you don't like being criticised then well, I'm sorry, but you've come to the wrong website. If me pointing out your inability to be anything other than an irritable, bad tempered, chronic complainer pisses you off, then maybe you should go and have a think about why that is rather than lashing out at everyone. Food for thought, hmm?

>If my disdain for WildeHopps hurts you so personally I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's your problem, not mine
When did I ever tell you that you were wrong for not liking WildeHopps? I literally couldn't care less about that. If anything, I'm interested to hear other fan's perspectives, as someone that likes learning about things like character development and how audiences can interpret creative writing. I just don't care for those perspectives to be yelled at me by someone who *appears* to have deep insecurities about being in the minority for their opinions.

>all I ask for is some fucking variety in art and discussion in this fandom.
I'd love for that too. The difference is that I don't blame everyone else for not meeting my idealised expectations of what that looks like.
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>>79987425
>Her father (raising her by himself, either her mother died or it's a "Pretty in Pink" situation where her mother walked out on them both) has a mechanic business and she loves her dad so much and is so tight with him that she chooses to go into that. I'm thinking Watts from Some Kind of Wonderful, that sorta character.
That's an interesting take on it. Not to get too graphic already but I want to think that once they meet up Skye sees a startling amount of her father in him with how he deals with people and approaches life, verging on a complex which unnerves her but also makes her attraction to him more magnetic.
>So in the little hypothetical fanfic I'll probably never write anyway, she eventually returns to Zootopia and indeed remembers Nick, but is too afraid to reach out because she thinks he's taken by Judy and she doesn't want to "interfere".
It's easy to read the chemistry between the both of them (Nick and Judy) from an outside perspective and infer that they have a "more than friends" relationship. Given that's the case, I bet some of the lines Nick said from Z2 would be recontextualized to apply to Skye instead?
>>79987425
>desperate for work she applies as a masseuse in Tundra Town, a parlour which normally discriminates and only hires arctic vixens. They're short staffed, though, and cut her a break and take her up due to needing more paws
That's a good reason to stretch out intimate and emotional moments between the two, not to mention a reason for Nick to keep returning to Skye on the pretense of recovery from his grueling police job.
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>>79987425
Because all it is is a cover for you people to bitch and moan about it not being the taser collar movie. It was a shitty idea and the fact that they kept on tried to do it for so long actively hampered production.
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>>79986585
Forget the tits, post your pussy!
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>>79987843
I actually like the original Zistopia concept a lit. It would fit better more as a series instead of a movie in my opinion but I loved the grit that it was willing to explore.
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>>79987910
I should rewatch Imagining Zootopia some day soon. I really wish we'd gotten a sequel documentary about the making of Zootopia 2 as well.
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I want zootopian ass
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do you think judy makes cute noises when nick knotfucks her every night
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HMOFA
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>>79988444
Heheheh
Checkem
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>>79988444
EXTRAORDINARILY BASED
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>>79988387
Rapid breathy squeaks that give way to long drawn out moans requesting to breed her.
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>>79988387
I don't think she can take the knot honestly, but she probably does make cute noises. If she can't take his shaft either I think they'd still be intimate since they love each other so much. Thigh humping, oral licking, her straddling his member and just jumping into it like a pillow. They could make for even more intimate images than having them actually fit since they'd have to be clever, but they'd not mind for how into each other they are.
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>>79988572
If you look hard enough, they aren't that different in size, Nick is just really long. Their hips are kinda the same
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>>79988572
knot would probably be a lot but with enough dedication she could probably handle the shaft, and judy has plenty of dedication
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>>79988605
Don't get me wrong I prefer to think that they can fit, I just think that if they can't that it's a roadblock that wouldn't stop them in any way.

>>79988651
Yeah and Nick wouldn't force his knot on her if it'd hurt or seriously injured her. I could even see them going to a doctor to see what they have to say on the subject. Until then they'd play it safe unless it seemed obvious she could take it.

Are there any on model animations where it's about intimacy between them? If anything gets me through the wait for 3 it's going to be romance and intimacy content. I like sex stuff of them too but I want to see them making love a lot too, not just seeing it up cause they're in the mood on a Tuesday.
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I want to be a canine but there are no dogs in Zootopia, what do?
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>>79984049
assuming he would have humanoid genitalia, uncut, since there likely was no Zootopian equivalent of Dr. John Harvey Kellogg
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>>79988827
But there's loads of canids in zootopia...
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>>79988827
wolf, fox, coyote
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>>79988860
Yeah, I just don't know which one to choose.

Also apparently there are no dogs or cats in Zootopia due to being too domesticated.

>>79988868
Those are options. I still don't know how to pick one.
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>>79988827
Be one of the many other canine species?
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>>79988827
>but there are no dogs in Zootopia
who said that? i saw a wolpertinger in zootopia, its the city of every animal bro
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>>79988898
Be a Racoon Dog.
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>>79988827
Bogo calls Nick an orange dog in 2. So while domestic dogs don't exist, the term does. Be a wolf fox or coyote as the other said.

>>79988898
Big knot? Wolf
Medium knot? Coyote
Smaller than medium knot? Fox
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>>79988827
both sheep and pig in this movie are domestic btw
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>>79988967
>Big knot? Wolf
>Medium knot? Coyote
>Smaller than medium knot? Fox
Is it wrong that I've just had a sudden urge to create a Zootopia OC for the sole purpose of having narrative reasons for what's essentially a fursona to have hot sweaty knotfucking with other Zootopia residents?
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>>79987767
Alright, I apologize if my tone of voice came off poorly - but I am rather insulted by the implication of which suggests I need "reading comprehension" skills. I excelled in English / writing in school, and I scored a perfect on the ACT in "reading comprehension" and the "English" sections. I am also an avid writer (of InuKag fanfic) and have been told by many fans of mine my writing is spot-on to characterization, so I truly think I have no media or reading literacy problems. If I came off a certain way, I wasn't trying to be, but I suppose my irritation / frustration in being alone in my shipping desires indeed becomes apparent with the way I type. I am not blaming anyone, either, by the way, just feel very alone. It's annoying having to be the only person to create writing / art for a thing you like and being absolutely alone in it. Somewhat discouraging.
>>79987795
>Skye sees a startling amount of her father in him with how he deals with people and approaches life, verging on a complex which unnerves her but also makes her attraction to him more magnetic.
Interesting take! They say you marry someone like your parent, so I could see that being a way to make her more attracted to him (aside from the established history they had from way back when)
>I bet some of the lines Nick said from Z2 would be recontextualized to apply to Skye instead?
I don't tend to enjoy writing "non-canon", rather I like writing to expand on / include canon, so if I were to write this fanfic it would ideally just take place after Z2 happens, no recontextualization necessarily needed.
>Nick to keep returning to Skye on the pretense of recovery from his grueling police job.
It's certainly an excuse! I think she would be hesitant to even address him, feeling a little intimidated since he's "famous" now.

I want to apologize to everyone in this thread for my perceived tone of voice being bitchy. I swear I did not mean to come off like a cunt. (1/2)
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>>79988843
But there are Zootopian Jews
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>>79989127
>I apologize if my tone of voice came off poorly
A bit of advice, it's just a good thing to keep in mind in general. You're not apologizing for how someone else feels, you can't you don't have control over that, you're apologizing for what you did or didn't do. Don't use a passive voice when you apologize. It makes you sound like you're saying that the other person is at fault.
Also you write like for the past eight years these threads weren't just exclusively fan OC's fucking each other.
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>>79987429
Cute snow vixen. Too bad she's confined to a random comic seemingly nobody has read because she has so little art. I'd love to see more of her.
>>79987795
I want to thank you for engaging with my dumb little fanfic idea and even giving me pointers / ideas for it. This is the type of creative interaction I crave; I find I am far less capable of creating a well thought out story without the creative input from other fans. I aim to please not only myself when I write, but others, too, so it's nice to know the concepts I wrote out sparked some ideas from you! If you are the same anon as >>79987767
then I truly apologize for coming off entitled, cunty, bitchy, etc. It wasn't my intention. My frustration probably bleeds into my writing and that's what happened. But I'd rather not argue semantics about if I "came off" as something or if I am being interpreted a particular way.
>>79989127
(2/2)
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>>79989122
Yes
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>>79987843
I'm not sure ho my post implies my conduct or discussion is a "cover" for me to bitch about us missing out on such a cool (better) concept for the first movie; I don't get joy from dwelling on the fact we missed out on it. It just makes me feel sad.
>>79987889
My boyfriend would NOT be happy if I did that, but to be honest it's the part of my body I hate (visually) the most so I don't like taking pictures of it anyway, it disgusts me. Nice try though.
>>79988916
>dhole
>>79989122
Based. Do it
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>>79988967
It's actually kinda funny, I just looked it up out of curiosity and apparently nobody actually knows what the origin of the word "dog" even is.

>>79989127
Hey, thanks for apologising, it's all good. The reading comprehension comment was only me being a bit snarky, which in hindsight I should've left out, so I apologise for that. It frustrates and discourages me too sometimes when the people around me aren't reacting with the same level of energy and enthusiasm as me for things that I feel like they should be. I guess it's just something I've gradually learned to live with.
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>>79989552
Do you own a knotted dildo
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>>79989459
>>79989552
I'm getting mixed signals
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>>79989552
Ugly pussy, just like your soul.
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>>79989680
No, I considered it once before (would have got something realistic and foxy looking from BadDragon) but I have severe OCD and extreme weirdness involving sex toys so because of my paranoia about keeping it clean, I decided against having one. When I move out next year (finally moving to the bf) then I won't have need for a dildo anyway lol
>>79989731
Do what makes you happy anon
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>>79989127
>>79989365
No problem, I'm glad to have helped ignite the creative juices. That wasn't me that you're referencing, but while I do understand the grievances people had with your initial tone, I also understand the absolute despair of being a fan of obscure ships in media to the point where you feel ostracized from the fandom at whole. I enjoyed the brainstorming too, it's the only thing I seem to come back to after swearing off long form content creation due to my perfectionism. Plus mkre Skye is always nice, I love her design.
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>>79989731
More?
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>>79989590
It's no problem. I'm happy enough with the feedback received on my silly little fanfic idea. We'll see if my OCD / depression will allow me to actually materialize anything substantial or if it will remain just a silly idea.
>>79989860
It is indeed ugly. It needs a trim. Like a skin trim. I was born with way too much extra skin down there. I hate it. I'm just really afraid of ever going under the knife for anything, so as much as I want to get cosmetic surgery, I don't wanna fuck any of the natural shit up. But damn it ain't THAT ugly, bless that woman's poor soul.
>>79987631
If they add sentient birds it creates a huge problem - what the fuck do predators eat? They can't eat the prey mammals, obviously, but it's not like a fox or lion can survive on a fucking vegan diet. So there must be birds with lower intelligence / livestock birds, that has to be what they eat. That and fish.

As a last aside, I want to also point out to everyone another reason I dislike WildeHopps is because it seems universe breaking to me; if interspecies couples were a thing, you would think you'd see it in the background, and if HYBRIDS were a thing, then you'd see those, too, but you don't. It makes zero sense. All the animals would become freakish amalgamations over time if hybrids were a real thing in-universe and that bothers my autism like you wouldn't believe
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>>79989867
Cool, does your bf know about this little hobbie of yours? I'd love to meet someone to share this autism but lmao
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>>79990043
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>>79988788
>Their first time
>Nick nervous cause this is the first girlfriend he actually cares about being intimate with
>Judy tries to get him in but it's too big
>Nick heartbroken
>Starts apologizing
>Leans his head back against the bed and starts to cry
>I'm so sorry Judy, I wanted this to be perfect. I never thought I'd be too...
>Judy sits around his knot and rubs his belly
>It's ok you dumb fox. I'm still here.
>But I can't even do what I, we've wanted... ohh..
>Judy starts sliding along his shaft with her slit.
>If I don't stretch enough over time this'll work just fine.
>She hops around playfully along the his knot.
>Nick pulls her close
>Judy you took my worst nightmare and knew how to fix it
>I thought this through all for my fox and me

>>79988993
I saw a video speculating that Bellweather may have been angry because sheep were bred a long time ago to be how they are today for their wool. Pigs maybe they were bred that way for sniffing out truffles?
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>>79990089
He is aware I am a furry, he offered multiple times to buy me one of the BadDragon dildos with a knot, but I declined and explained why. The offer's open for whenever I want it though

He also knows I post on 4chan and that I talk to other people in depth about written erotica. He's aware there's no romantic / emotional component to such discussions so he's fine with it. I've been a furry nearly my whole life anyway so my furry-adjacent horniness has existed before I met him.
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>>79990053
The preds eat fish and bug meat. Bug burger is a canon burger place in their world. So they have meat sources.
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>>79990159
I can't believe I never saw this one before.
Thanks, Anon!
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How old are you guys?
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>>79990509
Just out of curiosity, did you post nudes of yourself here in 2016 with "foxhole" written on your body?
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>>79989867
Fat knotted wolf OC here I go.
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>>79990579
44, I'll find my furry girlfriend some day right? Haha...
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>>79990586
No, I was 16 / 17 that year. I've never posted nudes on here where I've written anything on my body, I exclusively write the date / time on a piece of paper and hold it up any time I've posted myself.
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>>79990579
58.
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>>79990579
36
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>>79990579
>>79990710
The second quoted one is me; I'm 26, 27 next August. I'm rather surprised by the responses so far, I would have guessed more people from my age range to be in this thread
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>>79990821
I'm also 26 by coincidence
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>>79990579
32M, ready to mingle
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>>79990579
27, officer
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>>79990053
I agree with the sentiment that hybrids are an absolutely ridiculous and trash idea, no question about that from me, but I don't think we've really even seen enough couples of any type to say that interspecies couples are universe breaking.

It's probably just less common in Zootopia for the same sort of reasons that it's less common for humans to have partners from a different race, religion, culture, language, and so on in the real world. You're just more likely to end up with someone that looks, thinks and speaks like you do because they're who you most likely will have the most contact and connection with.

There's also the fact that, if we're to assume that different species can't get each other pregnant in Zootopia, not being able to have kids is a reason to consciously or subconsciously limit one's self to their own species when looking for a significant other.

Anyway, all this is to say that neither of these things would actually prevent two consenting adults that have feelings for each other from getting together if they both wanted it in the real world, so why would it in Zootopia? Interracial, intercultural and interreligious couples are not as common, but still exist despite their differences. Gay couples are not that common, but still exist despite not being able to biologically have their own children.

>>79990579
30
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>>79991027
I mean some seem to want to ban certain people from getting married in real life which is shitty. So I wonder if Nick and Judy will have to go through such stupidity whenever they officially hook up. Yeah we've seen interspecies couples, but that doesn't mean they haven't had hardships.
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>>79990899
Cool! What month?
>>79991027
The hybrid idea is what irks me the most; but regardless of the points you've made (because they do have merit!) I just cannot get over my "matching" autism and I don't like how predxprey looks together. It just looks wrong lol
>>79991246
I am doubtful in-universe it would be a problem if they go with making it canon. With the "mammal inclusion initiative", I don't think inter-species couples would be banned.
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>>79990579
29 :(
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>>79990579
37.
Worried that I don't feel my age. When does your brain figure out that you're an adult?
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>>79990053
>I was born with way too much extra skin down there. I hate it.
So many women feel bad about having dangly flaps, and yet many guys are really into that sort of thing, something too chew on, play with, etc.
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>>79990579
>How old are you guys?
We were talking this only the other threads...
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Thanks Rob.
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>>79991764
We don't give a fuck.
The flap thing on the internet is just banter, any man would fuck an attractive girls pussy
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>>79991422
Oh no I know officially they'd be allowed. I'm talking about there's likely animals with small minds who will look down on them and think they shouldn't be allowed together. I'd wager Bellweather feels that way about pred/prey relationships. I'd like her to show up in 3 and harass them over their relationship even if they haven't 100% admitted it yet.
>You think she can have your kits some day?
>You think he'll never go savage and eat you?
>You're pathetic little fairy tale will never work!
And it sits with them for a part of the movie until one of them can't take it and says it doesn't matter what other animals think. I love you. Then the other admits it to.
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>>79990579
23, wow you guys are pretty old
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>>79991538
you notice
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>>79991976
if you stay with us you will catch the old
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>>79991764
>>79991820
My boyfriend has assured me so so so many times he likes it, thinks it's sexy, etc. I've told him multiple times I'm not so much worried about his opinion, but rather I myself am extremely disgusted by myself personally. The problem is I like the rest of my body and it feels like my downstairs' ugliness ruins my overall appeal / self secureness I feel from a purely visual perspective. I don't need to impress anyone, I just have hated it my whole life and been jealous of the girls I see online with small, pink labias. But I digress, I am getting too offtopic. If only I could just be a sexy vixen with a foxpussy instead. Which, may I point out, actually isn't a "cookie" like most domestic dogs; it's something which irks me with furry art. They make the vixen have a cookie when it doesn't look quite like a dog's does.
>>79991838
If they made it canon, this would be a fun interaction, though I doubt Bellweather will ever get significant screentime plot-wise ever again. She seems more like a useable punchline now. I just would prefer the WildeHopps stuff is continually teased but never strictly confirmed; will keep both sides (shippers and non-shippers) happy.
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>>79992093
It wouldn't keep me happy. It would legit pain my heart to be teased and never see them happy. I mean you'd get to be happy at their expense sure so someone would get enjoyment out of it, but I'd have a hurt soul. If it makes you feel any better I don't think Disney will allow them to become canon. They may wrongly think people would stop coming if the what if was gone, not realizing the fans would love them even more and keep coming back. But it's whatever, I'm used to being shit on in love. Being shit on over fantasy love won't be much different. Will still suck but c'est la vie.
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>>79992093
>If only I could just be a sexy vixen with a foxpussy instead. Which, may I point out, actually isn't a "cookie" like most domestic dogs; it's something which irks me with furry art. They make the vixen have a cookie when it doesn't look quite like a dog's does.
E261 has lied to me. What does a vulpine's vagina look like then? This is a question purely for research and verisimilitude for my Zootopia vixen OCs.
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>>79991815
It's kinda hard for me to imagine that there's someone that's pretty much the same age as my parents in this thread. I don't mean that in a negative or unfriendly way or anything, just that I can't picture my dad going on 4chan, let alone to post in a general for an animated Disney movie that only came out when he was already 60, and that's even considering that he was quite a bit more online than most people his age and spent a lot of time lurking in other obscure autistic forums (mainly about things like trains, trams and radios).

Huh... I guess it's actually not that odd now that I think about it like that lol
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>>79992236
I'm sorry for your luck. I hope someday you find a girl who brings you as much joy as shipping WildeHopps does; though if I am being perfectly honest it sounds like your happiness hinges a little too much on whether or not they become canon. If you ask me, they pretty much did become canon (much to my chagrin) because what the fuck else was the whole confession in the end there? Without literally saying "I love you" they said pretty much that; they, in no uncertain terms told each other they are the most important mammals to one another and and they never want to lose each other. They just didn't perfectly spell it out "I want to be with you romantically", so a non-shipper like me can still cope and pretend it's not canon because it *technically* isn't.
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>>79992405
I guess I can't find the example image I was looking for; I wrongly misremembered it being of Rita from Jungledyret but I must be thinking of another image. If I find it I'll post the example, but basically vixens have small vulvas, smaller than a domestic dog it seems, and the "cookie" shape is far less pronounced. I don't know how else to describe it. In some species the "cookie" still shows of course, just lesser than a dog, and it may or may not be a similar colour to the fur depending on the species, it seems.
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>>79990579
I'm another 36.
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>>79992585
I found it. Someone in the e621 post's comments mentions this being "rare anatomically correct fox art" so there you go.
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>>79990586
I saved this pic of Miss Foxhole if you're interested.
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>>79990241
My headcanon is that the first time Nick gets inside Judy, he will very prematurely ejaculate because of how much he is excited to be with his love
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>>79992451
I dunno if I'd say my happiness hinges on them. Like not in an all encompassing way. It's hard to explain I guess. I normally don't get into fictional couples. Whoever gets together does. In the first film I thought they'd maybe be cute and wanted to see where they went. I loved part 2 and I even agree with you that it basically feels like they're a couple, but something's off. I appreciate that despite disliking them you were willing to say you felt their confession was a canonization. You didn't even have to comment on that at all, but you did and that was considerate. Thank you.

As for ever finding some girl out there willing to put up with my dumb ass... either a saint or doesn't mind a broken mess. But again, thanks.
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>>79990821
>August 1999
Shit, I have fap stains older than that
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>>79992684
Judy: Am I that good? All right!
>tummy box
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>>79992626
Reminds me of a lioness' genitalia with how small the vulva is.
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>>79991764
>>79991820
Gotta be real, it's a pass for me. If I see a thumbnail of a fugly vajayjay on Pornhub, I simply do not click.
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>>79992846
I clearly meant IRL
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>>79992643
She does resemble me; her bellybutton is kinda weird looking though. I get the feeling this girl is taller than I am too.
>>79992762
You seem like a sweet guy. I don't know, I guess I know what you mean by it "doesn't feel right", but if I shipped them I'd be pretty damn happy. I also keep in mind they haven't known each other for very long, so there's that to consider. If you're into fictional shipping, I will recommend InuYasha, my favourite show ever and the best development of romance between the main two characters (in my opinion) but it's also a fun action-oriented friendship adventure. I know it's not the same thing as Zootopia but if I were to recommend something romance-based it'd be that.
>>79992775
Man you must be at least double my age
>>79992810
This is what I thought upon seeing it for the first time, too. My own fursona I choose to draw with the smaller vulva, very cat-like. But foxes seem to be halfway between cats and dogs, as observed.
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>>79992903
IRL I'd cheat like your boyfriend.
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>>79993029
I only watched the movie once and didn't notice Judy falling for Nick until they both almost died and it hit her like a ton of bricks. She may have slowly been getting there, but almost losing him was like a tidal wave. Nick I think was falling for her the whole film, or he already did before it started.
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>>79992974
>>79992903
This is not me. My boyfriend hates cheaters btw, he told me it's the one thing I'd have to do to make him leave me
>>79993084
i saw it the other way around hahaha. Hated the hints the whole time as resident WildeHoppsHater
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>>79980808
Apollo-cheese for the hasty collage but I just saw this and got reminded of this comic.

>>79986774
Asia Twitter is a goddamn god-send. Singapore, Indonesia, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Phillipines, China, Taiwan, I got a whole roster of artists I can't understand but I just love their artwork so much.

I still use other sites like e621 or e-Hentai to find some other stuff but I thought that the sequel would blow up some more artists to do more Z-work. I got an addiction and it can't be helped :<

Most of the stuff I look for isn't even the weirdo shit, just intimate, lover stuff. If there is some sexual stuff I don't mind as long as it isn't the entire focus - the comics made by TheWeaver (tgweaver whatever they go by) are like the literal perfect amount of smut since there is a lot of care and love being put into it. Absolutely love that guy.
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>>79992966
>My own fursona I choose to draw with the smaller vulva, very cat-like. But foxes seem to be halfway between cats and dogs, as observed.
That's cute. All of my furry leaning characters have accurate genitalia based on their animal, or if not a one to one representation then some sort of hybrid approximation. If mals werewolves are free to have red rockets then let the females have cookies.
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>>79993281
(s)he could fix me
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>>79993281
I'm extremely insistent about things being anatomically correct if possible. In the furry fandom, most artists seem more interested in only the males being correct and slapping a human-like vulva on the females, regardless of if it makes sense or not.
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Dear Anti-WildeHopps Gal, I hope this haunts your dreams.
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>>79993577
Not even. The furry fandom has a penchant for putting either canine or equine features on totally different animals and calling it a day. I can get if it's some chimera creature but if I see another sparkle dog with a horsecock or a khajiit with a knot I'm gonna crash out. Keep the itty bitty kitty slit, it's more interesting that way.
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>>79990579
24, and I'm only checking as I just saw the second one with my family
my 60-year-old dad thinks judy's cute
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>>79993730
Both need to lose the buttplugs, and Judy needs a trim. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd fuck Haru over Judy here.
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>>79993694
I've seen this before; it's certainly wonderfully animated, but yeah, I do long for someone to animate my ship with this much love and passion. Eventually I'll get there. I did my best to do so myself with a shitty little gif, but I am so ashamed of it I don't wanna post it. It's old anyway; I could make something better now if I tried. I wish there was an application which seemed identical to Flipnote Studio on the DSi except with full colour capabilities and more... most animation software seems to incredibly difficult to learn that I'd rather try and do it on paper.

I'm not that much of a seething asshole that I can't appreciate well-made animation.
>>79993742
This is truer than I realized when I originally posted; the amount of cat-like Pokemon I see given dog-cocks is astounding. Then again, cat penises have little spikes, so I sorta understand the desire to change it; the only fandom I've seen consistently draw the cat-genitals correctly is the on-model Lion King stuff.

So, for all of you who want to fuck Pawbert... remember, he has a cactus-cat-cock.
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>>79992440
Never underestimate us old fuckers, we've been there and seen it all.
You will too one day.
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>>79978512
Alec is back! <3
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>>79994110
>I wish there was an application which seemed identical to Flipnote Studio on the DSi except with full colour capabilities and more... most animation software seems to incredibly difficult to learn that I'd rather try and do it on paper.
Which ones have you tried out so far?
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penis liquid
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>>79994275
I've tried Pencil 2D (I think that's what it was called?) and the 2D animation component of Clip Studio Paint, though mine isn't the full version. It has all the same stuff, but there's a limit to length of animation. I'm not willing to buy any more programs, so I've only tried these two, and observed others.

I don't know of any options with a very very simple interface like Flipnote has; if there's anything like that, I want to practice animation with it.



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