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Merry Christmas to everyone—except Pawbert!
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>>80136359
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>>80136637
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Pawbert = Nick Reiner
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Merry Christmas, /ztg/!

(sorry for slop)
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it's starting to feel just like old times

so,
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>>80137762
Weave my gai, thanks for sharing!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbNsN4zBhGk
I love this channel, but this video specifically is Zootwopia related, so I'm dropping it off here.
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>>80136298
Nonsense.
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>>80137762
The mating bunny boxes the irritating fox, ooowee!

Can't wait to see how this turns out :DDDD
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Merry Christmas
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>>80137762
Ten years of wonderful nick and Judy's from the lope
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>>80135640
Also, Merry Christmas Eve folks!!! I hope everyone is feeling very festive today!
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>>80137120
>>80137461 (You)

oh, forgot about Z2: kinda upset we didn't get a stronger wildehopps confirmation. I guess I understand we didn't get a kiss with it only having 1 week since Nick graduated from the academy, but maybe showing them on an actual date, or having some clearly couple-coded personal photo of them on a date on one of their desk would've been really needed to relieve the romantic tension the entire movie was building up.

It kinda came off as ship-baiting with the way they edited some of the promotional material. I know many say its a "slow-burn" "trust-the-process" "they are foreshadowing it for Zootopia3" but we already waited 9 years for an answer, and do I really dare to hope NOW when my hope for Z2 has left me disappointed. With a war in the neighboring country, I'll be lucky if Putin doesn't nuke me before Zootopia 3 comes out.

Only good thing is that I guess they leaned too heavily into it now to walk back out of it. And it looks like the movie even converted Ginnifer into a shipper of Judy and Nick which is cute.

>>80137587
Oh love the ostrich racing idea!

I personally don't mind if like birds would be considered exotic animals and it would maybe a little more weird to ate them, like you would need to go to a shady part of Zootopia to find bird-meat, like how irl horse, rabbit and dog meat is weird to eat.
Predators do already have fish AND crustaceans, and if we imagine bug-farming as huge industrial ultraprocessed system like in the Cyberpunk2077 universe, that should be enough to feed the predator population.

But yeah, hope they the door open for wild and domestic birds, because sapient birds are just not necessary for the plot.

>>80137762
Holy shit, nice piece Weav! Glad to see you, man!
Haha, finally Nick calls her out on this lol.
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>>80138047
fags are getting coal for Christmas, which is as black as their souls and the turd on their post-buttfuck dicks
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hoppslynx could've been great..
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>>80138203
i think we all know gary/judy is the superior bunnyship
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>>80138082
>I guess I understand we didn't get a kiss with it only having 1 week since Nick graduated from the academy, but maybe showing them on an actual date, or having some clearly couple-coded personal photo of them on a date on one of their desk would've been really needed to relieve the romantic tension the entire movie was building up.

Haha yes, unfortunately...
>98 minute run time.
Yes online it says an hour and 48, but I mean come on that's with the credits so that doesn't count. And even then, it still wasn't nearly enough to flesh out the whole story. If this movie had like another half hour, then *maybe* this potential scene that you're talking about could have fit in but I do doubt it. So much of the story was just beat after beat after beat, not a lot of time for anything to breathe. I really think they're gonna be holding off until the third movie, I mean we literally ended off the second with Judy now yearning over Nick before heading off to do whatever it is she's about to do. She's in her casual clothes so who knows? Maybe the third movie does start off with a date, wouldn't that be swell <3
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It's just me or Judy needs way more therapy than Nick?
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>>80138300
oh 100%
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>>80138300
they are both kind of a mess, but Judy's problem with her overcompensating for her weaknesses is way more self-destructive, while Nick's coping mechanisms are specifically stemming from desires of self-preservation. Again, kind of perfectly represents wildehopps them being the two sides of the same-coin, perfect opposites.
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Reposting since the previous thread died right after I posted it

>>80135348
I probably was being a bit flippant with how I said it, so I apologize to all for that. I do understand worldbuilding, but I've just never staked any of my headcanons on something as fundamental as reptilian (or avian) intelligence since it's so easily subject to being changed in future official canon. I had a thought just now that maybe amphibians could be used as a replacement for reptiles for the authors mentioned. They feel similar enough to fish/different enough to mammals to reasonably assume that they won't be made to be intelligent in some future installment, especially now that fish have been established as canonically unintelligent.
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i wish you guys had left this shit in the last thread
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>>80138379
>i wish you guys had left this shit in the last thread
To which shit are you referring?
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>>80138220
Too bad judy is too small
Gary could wrap up under her clothes and fuck her at work
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>>80138543
Why are foxes so sexy? I want to be a fox.
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>>80138300
Nick was joking when he said that she needed a whole herd of therapy animals, but that still doesn't mean that she doesn't need help - same as him!

They're both sorta fucked up and have problems that needed to be aired out in the open. I still think that Nick has some unresolved problems that still weren't really discussed at the confession scene but for what he said it was a big step forward for him.

He talked about why Judy was so important to him and why he is so overprotective of her despite his childhood trauma preventing him for saying so, while she talks about why she is so overzealous to prove her self to the world but that she takes what he says so seriously because he's that important to her too.

They are both talking about themselves and their problems in this matter, both seemingly have a death wish but Nick has one for her, while she has one to the world. She has a need to constantly one up herself to an unhealthy magnitude, he has the need to constantly look out for her. I'm sure by the third film (seemingly year two) they'll be much more on the same page, but then again who knows. I just hope they don't break them up again, since we already saw that twice.
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>>80138543
>To which shit are you referring?
I'm assuming the homophobic comments made earlier.
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>>80138740
its a shrink escapee that bound his feet to us and now spends his days complaining to a bunch of people who are giving cum tribute to an orange dog and ot obsessing about an 40+ white dog
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>>80138367
no hard feelings, I understand your pov too. I'm not saying it BROKE the movie for me, like I said, I enjoyed it. It is a good sequel, just that the world-building falls apart at a lot of points if you think about it too hard, which wasn't a problem with the first movie. Hope Z3 will do better.

>maybe amphibians could be used as a replacement for reptiles for the authors mentioned
i actually suggested that in some community discussions and it was largely was met with weird looks, saying they are too similar, it would be weird. However I think that its confirmed that fish including sharks are non-sapient but marine-mammals like dolphins are sapient, the frog/reptile difference would be more acceptable now.

I personally would be fine with it, since frogs and reptiles might be similar in appearance, but all reptiles are covered in scales while amphibians are smooth-skinned (not to mention covered in mucus, like how do year wear clothes if you are sweating SNOT 24/7)

But again. people headcanonize stuff in hopes to predict what the writers might intend sometimes. With reptiles thrown into the world-building so light-heartedly, it is now a lot more riskier to even play with the idea of pet/wild amphibians and birds. If they do confirm them to be wild animals in Zootopia3 that would be amazing.

I want pet frogs and birds for Zootopians. Pets and wildlife have such a strong psychological and social impact on us humans. The way a "person" interacts with an "wild animal" can be so magical. I would feel really bad if Zootopians could not experience the insane moment of a bird landing on your shoulder, or first time using the bird feeder you left in your window.
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Would Nick drink alcoholic eggnog?
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>>80138543
Sex
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>>80138676
Will Nick and Judy really be in therapy for two years, though? Their speech to the therapy session at the end of the movie makes it seem that they "passed" and are now done with it.
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>>80138892
I recognize those scribbles.

Holy shit, is the Zistopia guy back to the fandom?
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>>80138676
Homestuck ass animation
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>>80139009
no no, i just used their drawing as an example
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>>80138740
>homophobic
What you call "homophobic" I call normal.
Normal people don't ejaculate in a poop-filled body cavity.
Normal people don't take big rod up their anal.
Normal people don't slurp semen straws.
Normal people don't stick their peckers into mouths.
Normal people don't jerk other people off.
Normal people don't rub their "sticks" together like Pocahontas starting a fire (frot).
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0% gay people compared to 100% straight people in the Epstein Files by the way
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>>80139094
Hot
what video did you see
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>>80138892
>I want pet frogs and birds for Zootopians. Pets and wildlife have such a strong psychological and social impact on us humans. The way a "person" interacts with an "wild animal" can be so magical. I would feel really bad if Zootopians could not experience the insane moment of a bird landing on your shoulder, or first time using the bird feeder you left in your window.

It would be really nice to see such a thing but alas I'm not sure that's gonna be the plan. I believe Byron Howard stated before in an interview that there were gonna be no pets in this universe. I believe that they view they're gonna be going for is that the big three are gonna be sentient: birds, mammals, and reptiles. Amphibians being its own little family of animal so maybe your idea of them being potential pets wouldn't be the craziest. Skin being goopy 24/7 would have some interesting consequences if they were sentient.
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>>80139094
Anon you do realize girls do anal and suck dicks too right
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>>80139011
Here's the second part, hope this makes it better Anon.
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>>80139238
Eh
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>>80139208
its really weird, because there is no way Zootopians would at least have the pretties exotic fish that don't taste good as pets in aquariums.
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>>80139225
Shhh

He'll just quote scripture at you about how the Bible forbids any kind of sodomy or whatever. While wearing clothes made of multiple kinds of materials, I'm sure.
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>>80139225
And I think that's gross too. Girls' anuses still have poop and e. coli in them, and I don't want a shit shaft from anyone. Blowjobs are also immoral, gay or straight. There is no sex but penis in vagina (PIV) in a respectable position.
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>>80138984
>Their speech to the therapy session at the end of the movie makes it seem that they "passed" and are now done with it.

I think this is all the more reason why I think the third movie will dwell into this. If the first movie puts them together in the driver's seat and the second movie starts the engine, then the third movie will have them go to 60mph. They may have gotten over the first hurdle that is open communication and dialogue, but the second hardest part is to use it.

I don't know if they'll actually timeskip two years in, but I think that Bogo and Fuzby will use their (being Wildehopps) relationship to show how effective a partnership can be if you just follow through. They showed up to the most recent therapy session at the end to show their accomplishment anyway, wouldn't hurt to pop in every now and then if something happens.

Or maybe the two wanted to see how CM Punk and Roman Reigns are doing, zebros!
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>>80139158
was bobby kotick there, again
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>>80139094
Anyway
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Ball gags and whips are immoral. Pegging is immoral. Penis tattoos are immoral. Clit rings are immoral. Cock cages are immoral. Dildos are immoral. The Sqwheel is immoral. Doggie position is immoral (except for two canids of opposite sex).
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>>80139290
im not gonna pretend al didnt fuck me.
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>>80139282
>its really weird, because there is no way Zootopians would at least have the pretties exotic fish that don't taste good as pets in aquariums.

Fish would be a pretty nice flex to have. Maybe it's the equivalent of like lawns where it's: I have this thing I *could* use for food, but because I'm so rich I don't need to. I love having little aquatic creatures in my house, so I hope the idea of pet fish gets expanded in Z3.
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>>80139476
Me when I look at the Fishtank that Causes Instant Diarrhea
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>>80139268
80.7% of Americans are going to hell, then. Ick!
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>>80139238
You forgot the sixth panel showing Nick has a huge erection in his pants
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>>80139503
I'm sorry to break it to you but only 144,000 people were ever selected to go to Heaven and all of them are there already
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>>80139492
More feesh, more stomach churning feesh.
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Thoughts
https://youtu.be/8j2IS5cpj0g?si=7P23dRsrEzMkBlUH
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>ALL REDDITNIMALS DESERVE AND ARE SAPIENT!!
>ooof.... insects and fish sapient... not a good look... this will not age well... pretty ick... why cant ppl be like, better?
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>>80139519
He's got everything in bulk, including his bulge.
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>>80139583
mmm shark
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>>80139586
Does Nick's apartment smell like extreme musk? I don't get the feeling that Nick himself smells excessively, but his apartment has the vibe of really stinking even though Nick lives alone.
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Nick would not use a condom or pull out. Ever. He is fully committed to his bun.
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>>80139723
he doesnt need to wear condoms
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>>80139540
Zistopia Nick and Judy, always nice to see.

Anyway, the video is what I expect. I do think the sequel is better, much more focused but a little rushed at some points.
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>>80139818
pedophile
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>girl pov
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How much would Dr. Fuzzby charge for private sessions?
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>>80139818
who dafuq is Bianca
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>>80139290
They're so mean to him
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>>80139884
A "child model", aka CSAM victim
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>>80139690
>I don't get the feeling that Nick himself smells excessively, but his apartment has the vibe of really stinking even though Nick lives alone.

I definitely get this vibe. I've read countless little fan fics where Judy offers (or more so let's him know beforehand) to clean up his apartment. Antics ensues, the two exchange bodily fluids, y'know the deal.

I do think that living beneath an already sweat filled gym probably doesn't help Nick's case anyway, which is probably why they always go to Judy's place for hang outs (i.e the "Is this why you never invite me over?" line).
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>>80139880
Well, she has her own practice considering that she wears a visitor badge to the ZPD. Furthermore, the budget that Bogo allocates for "less important" matters probably isn't the highest.

She is a foreigner in the sense that she's from Outback Island, so maybe these opportunities are the only ones she got. Assuming that New York is supposed to be the major inspiration, it'll probably be about $150-$250 per session.
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>>80139854
>>80139884
>>80139916
She's legal. She has a porn video on YouPorn. https://www.youporn.com/watch/14848317/biancas-first-pov/
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Someone posted a webm last thread of the emotional hug between Nick and Judy in regards to trying to make it into an iPhone wallpaper. Right before it pans away and the hug breaks seems like a really nice shot that could work with some cropping. Can anyone give it a shot if they’re able?

>>80138984
It's my super coping mechanism that the two years thing was a hint at how long before Zootopia 3. I know I'm dreaming, but let me dream.
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>>80138892
>it's confirmed that fish including sharks are non-sapient but marine-mammals like dolphins are sapient, the frog/reptile difference would be more acceptable now.
That's a good point too. I hadn't considered that angle.

>With reptiles thrown into the world-building so light-heartedly
I think that's doing quite a disservice to Jared and Byron to be honest. They care about this world as much as we do, if not more. It's their baby, after all. I don't think they would have gone down the reptile path without giving it serious consideration, even if it didn't get the screen time it deserved and needed to answer every question and loose end it created.

Sapient reptiles (and avians by extension) make sense to me because like mammals, they're Amniotes, and therefore all much more closely related to each other than fish, amphibians and insects are to them.
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>>80140237
I have zero doubts youre a pedo anyway, they're always the most desperate to point at scapegoats like you've been doing for multiple threads.
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If they canonize Nick and Judy in 3, do you think they'll at least give us a few minutes at the end to let us watch them be a couple? Go out on dates, fall asleep on the couch, watch a movie, etc?
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>>80139903
Pack Street if it kept going endlessly like The Simpsons and everybody turned into a sociopathic shell of their former selves
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>>80140468
>I think that's doing quite a disservice to Jared and Byron to be honest.
they wanted to include reptiles and snakes at all cost, even though they couldn't figure it out how to explain the completely mammal centric society, when mammal themselves used "animal" and "mammal" both as synonyms for "people" in the first movie's setting.

An original earlier plot was that reptiles are completely unknown for mammals, like they find an injured snake a the hospital is baffled by it, not knowing what it is.

The first movie took the mammal world-building so seriously, that was what was appealing to so many writers as a setting. Predators were provided food source, not just hand-waves away as "vegan" like in KungFu panda or Sing or other anthro universes. They kept the composition of mammals as in the wild with the 1:10 ratio of predator and prey and so many more details that all made the world feel well thought out.

Now the problem is the following with sapient-reptiles and sapient-birds being so seperate culturally of sapient-mammals:

That's now well-thought out or a representation of real life things.

You don't have a continent where only birds evolved, and you wouln't have a continent where only reptiles evolved. These animals evolve reaction to eachother.

Snake evolves heat-sense to find prey on bird eggs
Birds evolve talons and sharp beaks to defend their nest
Snakes develop venom to hunt rodents
Mongoose develop venom resistance to hunt snakes

evoltion is an arms-race and species, the species we SEE in the movie, needed thousands of years of specific conditions to even come to existance.

If a bird of prey evolves to hunt rabbits, it becomes an eagle
It a bird of prey evolves to hunt fellow birds like sparrows, it becomes a falcon

You cannot say that birds had no contact with mammals througouth their entire evolution and STILL evolve the species they would only evolve into through interaction with mammals.
-cont
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>>80139290
Charlie wouldn't be mean to him.
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>>80140699
If they do, it will be done to feel natural and purposeful, rather than just shoehorned in for fanservice. Or that's my hope anyway. I hate contrived hacky writing where things just happen for the sake of it.

I always think of this line from Silence of the Lambs when thinking about why something is in a movie:
>First principles, Clarice. Simplicity. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing, ask what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
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>>80140468
>>80140837(You)
some argue "well they evolved together, but then probably seperated when they gained sapience" but that's not how things in the real world work either. Culture is defined by regions not by phyisical appearances.

A lion and crocodile and a vulture tribe in the savannah, would have joined history together, maybe trade, maybe wars, but if then a jungle tiger, anaconda and parrot tribe would show up, that would be seen as an invador. Just how the city has different ecosystems, the world would be split into ecosystem based alliances, countries, not animal-family based ones.

A woodpacker and a wolf tribe would form an alliance waaaay before they would encounter a penguin or jackal tribe to form an alliance with. So sorry to say, but Jared and Byron absolutely did not think it through how to represent that animal world in the second movie and made the diversity a lot less realistic because of that.

Sapient reptiles maaaybe can be explained with being secretive as a culture and not every reptile tribe being interested in interacting with mammal tribes as long they are left alone. But they cannot repeat that narrative with birds.

there is no way the narrative of a "bird continent" would work. This world cannot function this way, it would undo any semblance of realism and well-thought out world-building the first movie established.
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>>80140870
Can you explain what you mean better? Would moving in together into a new apartment be a good use of this time?
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>>80137762
and now, Page 2

Maybe they do need counseling
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>>80140968
Nick, don't hit the bunny...
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>>80140940
I just mean showing us scenes of Nick and Judy being a couple should have a point beyond "it's what the fans want". We should learn something about their characters in the process, for example.
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>>80140968
She is blushing so hard and he's about to wind up a haymaker. I wonder where this goes :D
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>>80141030
People blush for a lot of reasons, I think they're just getting fired up and emotional.
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>>80140940
>Would moving in together into a new apartment be a good use of this time?

At the end. Show off the "new beginnings" that represents the Year of the Rooster.
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>>80140968
>Nick about to crash out, but the most precious thing in the world for him is the the person he is crashing out over and there is no way he would hurt her
lmao...
Judy is blushing a lot though, Weeeav, is this leading up to the "bunny box their potential mate to test their temper and play" thing?
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>>80140968
Glad you doin some Zoot 2 stuff Weaver. Hope you do some lovey dovey intimate stuff of Nick and Judy. Your style and writing is cute and lends itself nicely to happy little love scenes.
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>>80141078
Ahhhh '29 would be a nice year cause it's not too long a wait. Keep hope alive guys. We can make it.
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>>80140837
>>80140870
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with some of your points. I don't have the time to elaborate on everything right now, but I'll write a longer response when I'm able to in a short while.
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>>80140968
He should flick her nose that'll show her!
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>>80140968
Come on Nick, knock her out
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>>80141054
I know that. Emotionally speaking, Judy would use physical touch because she is so enthralled by Nick and his presence, and doesn't really know how else to show her affection toward someone of his size. The sort of childhood crush you'd see where a girl is bullying a boy because she can't contain her feelings.

But the difference in Nick and Judy's emotional fair in this instance is just something to note i think, I dont know haha. I gotta go to dinner, so I hope everyone here has a great rest of their time! <3
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>>80141303
Maybe it's a subconscious thing where she wants to seem kind of tough, but she only does it with Nick because she trusts him. Maybe she just likes touching him. Like yeah, you're still here in front of me. My fox.
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>>80140968
just kiss him already you dumb bunny
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>>80139540
>>80139839
Maybe a dumb question, but is there a fan-made comic or imagining of if the original shock collar plot had been made? Is that what these designs are? I mean I know there's concept art but my first question still stands.

Also, I like this Judy design in the top one more than canon
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>>80141740
I'm gonna be really heartbroken if they don't kiss in 3. Like I get it for 2 because we needed more time for them to grow closer. But it's totally there now.
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>>80141740
she doesn't love him
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>>80141942
Not at that point, but she will. At least I hope.
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>>80141903
I can’t remember right now, but does Disney allow kissing in its movies?
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Sick fags!
And snakes don't even have cocks like this!
AIDS will kill them both before the venom!
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>>80141903
Listen, anon, I'm the Skyeanon who dislikes WildeHopps. All I'm gonna say, is, you have nothing to worry about in my opinion. I may deeply dislike WildeHopps but I do believe the canon movies definitely support it, especially with all the subtext in the second movie. Also all the creators teasing about it. Your fear of it "not happening" is irrationally over reactive, though; I promise it's okay. It's not the end of the world for me if they make it blatantly canon in Z3, nor will it be the end of the world for you if they keep it up to interpretation instead. If you ask me, depending on interpretation, it's basically canon already.
>>80141942
While I wish this were true, I do believe Judy loves Nick, though my interpretation for why Nick loves Judy (n canon, according to what I can pick up from the movies themselves) is more like, aside from feeling he can show vulnerability with her, it has been a long time since he showed that to anyone but maybe his mother. He's found someone who was kind and encouraging to him when he felt nobody would ever believe in him seriously, but now he's found someone (maybe someone else? I think he was hurt once before, in my fanfic anyway lol) and he DOES NOT want to let go of the opportunity he sees to be happy.

That's how I interpret canon. I may not like it but I can read subtext. Mostly from Z2. Anyway, I'm too high and busy with other shit to post a sketch, but if ya'll have any foxy art requests tell me and I'll see about delivering later, maybe tomorrow. Foxes only tho
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>>80142100
Nick eating an absolutely delicious bagel, the likes of which he has never tasted before
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>>80142100
Nick with a tattoo of his favorite band on his cock
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>>80137461
>Obviously my birds-reptile headcanon no longer works with reptiles.


I mean, yes it still can. It’s your headcanon. Canon updates don’t retroactively invalidate headcanon unless you let them. Headcanon exists specifically to fill gaps or smooth over weird worldbuilding decisions, and honestly, your birds-reptile take is *more* thought-out than what we actually got. In terms of internal logic and biological grouping, it makes more sense and gives the setting clearer structure instead of a pile of exceptions.

If anything, canon changing just highlights that the worldbuilding was always flexible and loosely defined. You’re not breaking anything by sticking with a version that’s more coherent. Headcanon isn’t about being “correct,” it’s about being consistent—and yours still is.

If it works for your interpretation, keep it. No one’s obligated to drop a better idea just because canon decided to zig instead of zag.
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>>80142100
Gideon drugging a pie to rape kids in his van
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>>80142297
>Nick with a tattoo of his favorite band on his cock
What IS Nick's favorite band?

My guess: Mink Floyd.
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>>80142100
Lady, you dislike Wildehopps for the most superficial and most austitic of reasons. Please shut up!!!!
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>>80142100
It's more so that I'm concerned they just keep stringing us along instead of giving us the slow burn payoff. Its stupid I know but if I really care about something like this I end up pessimistic about it. Sorry if I'm just being annoying. Thanks for the kind words, but I'm still gonna be concerned until 3 comes out haha.
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>>80141995
Why wouldn't they? I feel like they usually have a kiss in their movies though, right?
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>>80142337
thats not how I see it working.

when you make up a rule that directly contracting canon information that's an alternative universe rule.

a head-canon is somethign that expand the canon of the setting, but not something that is allowed to contradict it.

I can come up with whatever idea I want, like
>Bogo is actually a serial killer and some of the disappeared mammal cases were his victims, he managed to pin on Bellwether.

That wouldn't make it a "headcanon", it would make it an AU.

"headcanons", as I see them need to fit into the canon timeline and story.
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>>80140968
oh wow first time being here for a weaver zootopia comic live... i hope im right about where this is going, super excited!
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Page 3

isn't pawbert getting away while all this is happening

(i forgot the blush, damn, it really is just like old times)
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>>80142227
I thought yours sounded fun, the facial expression flashed in my mind and I did my best to sketch it real quick
>>80142297
We gotta figure out what he likes. He was 32 in 2016, right? So something 90s might be a favourite. What did he listen to in high school?
>>80142370
I'm allowed to express that I don't like the ship as much as anyone else is allowed to express they like any ship. I did not bash WildeHopps enjoyers in my post; nor did I tell anyone not to enjoy their ship. I also expressed how I believe WildeHopps in actually pretty much canon. I understand why people like it. Everyone, have fun, but be aware I am allowed to express my opinion if you are.

Anon telling me to shut up on Christmas Eve, I hope you find some calmness and have a nice evening and Christmas with less aggression in your heart. You must be in a bad place for me expressing my benign opinion about fictional characters on the internet to upset you this much.
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>>80142675
>No amount of pain could compare to knowing I'm hurting the one mammal care most about in this city
Ouch, my heart.

And now Judy is gonna be blasting off again!!!
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>>80142743
>Anon telling me to shut up on Christmas Eve, I hope you find some calmness and have a nice evening and Christmas with less aggression in your heart. You must be in a bad place for me expressing my benign opinion about fictional characters on the internet to upset you this much.
He's trolling you to get you to reply. Ignore him like the rest of us do.
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>>80142675
I hope he hugs her or maybe proposes.
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>>80142743
This is 100% me projecting but if Nick was 18 in 2002 then Daft Punk and Fatboy Slim should be on the list.
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>>80142675
>*slaps her in the face... with his DICK
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>>80142743
>We gotta figure out what he likes. He was 32 in 2016, right? So something 90s might be a favourite. What did he listen to in high school?
So he was 16 in 2000. Craziest thought that comes to mind is if Nick was a huge Limp Bizkit fan, or even going so far to be a juggallo.

Just imagining the fox in full makeup is funny enough to me haha.

>Anon telling me to shut up on Christmas Eve, I hope you find some calmness and have a nice evening and Christmas with less aggression in your heart.
Preach! Let the festive spirit invade your homes and hearts, we all gotta be civil if we're gonna be able to enjoy this little space of ours.

>>80142376
>It's more so that I'm concerned they just keep stringing us along instead of giving us the slow burn payoff.
A lot of money in stringing people along. There's a reason the "will they, won't they" trope still works, it gets people hooked.
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>>80142895
>So he was 16 in 2000.
Preydiohead's Colt-A.
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>>80142743
>>80142926
>We gotta figure out what he likes.
There is a Roaring Stones poster in Nick's apartment.
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>>80142829
Fair enough.
>>80142881
I want to believe he liked Fallout Boy. I kinda wanna work out what we all think he may have been like as a teen, what's his favourite movie, all sorts of little headcanon things like that. Curious to hear everyone's input.
>>80142895
Unlikely on the makeup imo lol.
I just enjoy being able to discuss minute little things about this franchise with other people. It's fun.
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>>80142926
Somehow, this makes sense. Seeing how young Nick reacts to his mom's favorite band, maybe he'd go for a more relaxed set of music.
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>>80143008
I'm surprised the concert's not at the Cow Palace (which is a real place in San Francisco).
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>>80143036
Lol. Would he like Tangerine Dream, then? I find it really relaxing especially when high... I like to imagine Nick is a film junkie too for some reason.
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>>80142895
Yes but I think here after 2 if they don't confirm them as a couple and kiss fans will not be happy. For movies that took 9 then 3 years respectively, stringing alo g is bad. Slow burn is fine but pushing it beyond the third is a poor idea I think. As is it's a perfect trilogy to build their romance and a perfect slow burn story. I trust them to do it right, but Disney suits I don't trust.
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>>80143036
That's absolutely adorable, and kinda sad considering what's coming in Nick's life.
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>>80142675
Prediction: He'll wind up and aim straight for get face, then stop a few inches away and simply boop her nose gently with a single finger
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>>80143036
I don't think Nick was reacting negatively to the music, just to his mom screaming like a fangirl
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>>80143110
>I like to imagine Nick is a film junkie too for some reason.

He gets really defensive when another animal critiques Francis Ford Koala's works of art, but goes ballistic if someone even attempts to badmouth Stallion Kubrick.
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>>80143036
>Warren
Wonder if they're supposed to be the Zootopia equivalent of Warrant?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88Izbmrxq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2j17c17OV8
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>>80143010
> I kinda wanna work out what we all think he may have been like as a teen, what's his favourite movie, all sorts of little headcanon things like that.
This is so hard for me because everything I want to say are just the things that I like, so it's easy to get caught up in the "I empathise and heavily relate to Nick, ipso facto he likes the same things I do." trap.

>I like to imagine Nick is a film junkie too for some reason.
Same, but again, that might just be because I am too. It even comes up in the fic I'm writing at the moment. A sneak peek:
>Judy glanced at the TV. "What were you watching?" "Oh, just the original Star Roars. I've seen it probably more times than anything else, but it never gets old." "Huh, funny that, I've never seen it..." "You've never seen Star Roars!?" Judy shrugged. "Carrots, we need to fix that. Like, right now." "Nick, I'm tired. Just let me eat and go to bed. We can watch Star... whatever another time." "Star Roars. It's called Star Roars, and you'll love it, carrots. Trust me."

>I just enjoy being able to discuss minute little things about this franchise with other people. It's fun.
Thank you! That's usually all I ever really want from these threads.
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he did say "as hard as he wanted"
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>>80143311
Off Nick goes, leaving his tomato wife behind while Pawbert is running away
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>>80143311
Weeeaver, do wholesome happy sex with them now!
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>>80143311
Weaver, you're a goddamn legend!
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>>80143362
by "them" you mean judy nick and gary right

because i'm pretty sure canonically he'd be like just offscreen in this scene
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>>80143311
>tomato bun wife activate!
how come your wildehopps NEVER dissapoints Weav!?! I'm smiling like and idiot right now, I was kind of expecting a kiss, but the way you did it is even more satisfying that whatever I had in my mind!
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>>80143311
Fucking A, this was so cute. With how insistent Judy was about Nick hitting her you would think it turns her on.
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>>80143375
No not during this scene. Just when they're at home together all wholesome and alone.
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>>80143408
okay so they bring gary home with them
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>>80143375
I mean that would be kinda goated actually, Gary being the wingman of the situation and just being happy to be there to watch them have fun
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>>80143311
I love their expressions in the second panel especially.
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>>80143309
>I want to say are just the things that I like
Same, but again, that might just be because I am too.
Ditto. But I'd be more inclined to do this if I felt like there was some character detail about him or something else shown to suggest he may even be interested in some of the things / movies I like lol

I like your little Star Roars thing. That's totally what it would be called in this universe. I think he'd also be a fan of "Back to the Fur-ture" if there has to be a pun in literally everything lol.

Of course Marty would be a fox.

I wonder which game console would have been Nick's fave? Or what did / does he play the most.
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>>80143447
>Of course Marty would be a fox.
He's a stoat actually.
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>>80143311
>weav never said this is the last page
>next page gonna be Nibbles and Gary with their jaws on the floor
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>>80143447
Thanks! I wish I could take credit for the pun, but that's literally what it's called in canon. see pic related
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>>80143201
>I don't think Nick was reacting negatively to the music, just to his mom screaming like a fangirl
Probably, but still left an impression. It's like when you listen to something only to realize "Oh yeah this song was playing when I broke my face in twelve places. Ehhh I'll just listen to something else in case..."

>>80143010
>I want to believe he liked Fallout Boy.
Who wasn't at that time. I'm sure Nick was probably tuned into MTV daily to see anything similar.

>>80143092
>I'm surprised the concert's not at the Cow Palace (which is a real place in San Francisco).
Only reason I know about that is because of wrestling, my oldhead coworker used to go there all the time.
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>>80143447
>I wonder which game console would have been Nick's fave? Or what did / does he play the most.
He has an NES controller in his apartment. again, see pic related.
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>>80143404
I think it's one of those "I'll let you hit me if you don't tell mom" kinda things. She just wanted to make it better and latched onto the idea of letting Nick do it back to her so they'd be "even".
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>>80143545
>Better angle
You can even see the console and some games. Though the cartridges appear to be some weird hybrid between NES and SNES cartridges
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>>80143311
AND THE CROWD GOES WILDE
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>>80143311
something tells me judy isn't gonna tell bogo or HR about this

this page is cute as shit, Weaver. I wonder if this is Nick tryna "subtly" push Judy towards this new type of "punching" from now on
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>>80143417
Fine just make happy Nick and Judy sex! :(
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>>80143645
That's not the most flattering picture of Judy.
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>>80143653
>I wonder if this is Nick tryna "subtly" push Judy towards this new type of "punching" from now on

I pray! Maybe later on some tongue punching can occur ;DDD
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>>80143878
But it is the funniest one he could've picked, which is completely in-character for him. Same with him putting her in his contacts as "Carrots".
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>>80143896
Why does Judy look like a mouse and Nick have a gun?
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>>80144163
It's very stylized (sort of 18th century esque depictions of foxes and rabbits), and it's based off the concept art that was released (and promptly redacted).

So damn hard to find proper paintings of what I am talking about, everything on Google images is fucking AI slop.
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>>80142532
That’s a fair way to define it, and I get where you’re coming from. You’re drawing a clean line between expanding canon and overwriting it, which makes sense if you want everything to fit neatly into the established timeline.

The only place I’d gently push back is that, in practice, fandom tends to use “headcanon” a bit more loosely than that. A lot of headcanons exist precisely because canon is incomplete, inconsistent, or underdeveloped—especially in worldbuilding-heavy settings. When canon later clarifies or changes something, people don’t always abandon their earlier interpretations; they just continue using the version that feels more coherent to them. At that point, it’s less about contradiction for its own sake and more about choosing a framework that still works for their understanding of the world.

For a long time, canon simply didn’t clarify whether reptiles existed at all, let alone whether they were sentient, partially sentient, or entirely animal-like. Because of the large gap between the two movies, people filled in the blanks with headcanon, not to contradict canon, but to make the world feel internally consistent.

Your Bogo example is a good illustration of the extreme end—something that radically alters character intent and plot direction. But not all contradictions operate at that scale. Structural or biological rules (like species grouping, societal organization, etc.) tend to sit in a gray area where canon itself often isn’t airtight. In those cases, a headcanon can contradict a later detail without fundamentally rewriting the story or character arcs.
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>>80143645
>Hang on a second...
I know it's not a 1:1 match, but that HAS to be what they were referencing.
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>>80144346
Someone in the replies to the original post mentioned "the fox elevator boy Renard" and I could see a similarity. I don't know if it helps.
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>>80144358

So I think this really comes down to scope and terminology. If someone prefers to call it an AU rule, that’s completely fair. But in broader fandom usage, it still functions as a headcanon, an interpretive layer meant to explain how the setting works behind the scenes, not a rewrite of the narrative itself. Ultimately, the label matters less than whether the idea maintains internal consistency and doesn’t distort the story being told.

Neither approach is really wrong it’s mostly a difference in how strictly we’re categorizing things. If calling it an AU works better for you, that’s fine. I just don’t think the label alone should invalidate the idea, especially when the goal is coherence and worldbuilding rather than contradiction for shock value.
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>>80143479
>>80143545
>>80143645
I only got to see the movie once in the theatre; if I had access to the movie I'd scrape for details like this myself. These are neat. Thanks for posting!
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>>80143311
Thanks weaver once again.
It's crazy we managed to revive this general in trash
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>>80144402
Jesus christ dude I hope this is a bit
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>>80144368
Based
So Starfox is a fictional character in this world; but might he be modelled after an existing fox in-universe who posed for the cover?

This is just my excuse to try and design Fox McCloud if he were in Zootopia... hmmm. I gotta try later.
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>>80144358
>That’s a fair way to define it, and I get where you’re coming from
this is the most chatGPT thing i've ever fucking read

>>80144402
>Here’s a clean, combined version that flows naturally and keeps the persuasive tone:
lmaoooo
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>>80144615
>this is the most chatGPT thing i've ever fucking read

And you would know how exactly
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>>80144464
Hey, no problem. And I implore you to go again if you're able to, it's well worth it. I'm only taking these screencaps from the telesync copy floating around online. I only use it for referencing stuff like this, really. It's still too shitty to watch casually for me for a couple of reasons, but I have unreasonably high standards about stuff like that lol.

You can safely download it from here if you want it: https://transfer.it/t/4FCwVCpBwZKL

>>80144544
>This is just my excuse to try and design Fox McCloud if he were in Zootopia
Sweet! I'd love to see your take on that idea.
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>>80144631
>What she sees.
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>>80144631
thank you weaver! im sure people have already asked you this a million times, but what did you think of the sequel anyhow? im assuming you liked Gary a lot
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>>80144615
>this is the most chatGPT thing i've ever fucking read
ikr, couldn't be more obvious. I already told them they don't have to run it through AI even if they feel like their English is too shitty to get their point across coherently.

Just write it naturally, and we'll still probably be able to understand what you mean.
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>>80144665
>And you would know how exactly
because it's fucking EVERYWHERE you dumbass
because it gets shoved down our throats by the incurious and the mentally deficient
because it's blatantly and immediately obvious to anyone with a functioning frontal lobe and basic pattern recognition
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>>80143896
>Maybe later on some tongue punching can occur ;DDD

If they do this by taking turns with things inevitably escalating, I wonder then, where exactly on Judy's body Nick will be doing the "punching"?
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>>80144737
I liked it well enough and I thought the reptiles were integrated pretty well, even though they kinda fucked the scale putting them in. Most of the reptiles are way, way too big in a setting that's been pretty faithful about size difference till now. But I can also guess why they did it.
Honestly, the dolphin felt more out of place than the lizards, somehow.

My big complaint is the pacing was way too fast, never felt like we could settle down on a scene or a moment and take our time with it, everything was breakneck and hurried because there was just so much going on in the runtime. I think a few scenes should've been chopped and the overall movie left to breathe a little.
It's also why I feel we didn't get a very good look into any of the new characters. Nibbles, imo, gets more characterization than Gary, and I still don't really have a good read on him.
That said he is pretty cute

with judy
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>>80144631
Weaver what do you think WildeHopps chances are for Zoot 3?
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>>80144868
...Zero? Exactly the same as Z2?
How do you guys not understand how this works yet? The "will they/won't they" setup and the ambiguity to read it either way is the entire point of how they're framing their relationship. If they wanted it to be explicitly romantic they would've done it at the end of 1.
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>>80144615
>this is the most chatGPT thing i've ever fucking read
Someone earlier in the week posted a chat response, riddled with the ever so dread "it's not x - it's y" and i just found myself disappointed.

The whole point of discussing the lore and coming up with your own little bits and pieces that might fit is that it's YOUR own little bits and pieces. Not some machine, it's just a little sad to see so many people depend on something.

I myself got no drawing ability to boast about, I just like looking at silly little images drawn by real people that involve the shimmering silver bunny and the argent amber fox. I'd personally love to write a little fic or two involving them eventually (honestly I probably should have already) since I think I have a pretty decent grasp on their characterizations. Hell, there's already a little embedded narrative in the book I'm writing that'll involve a fox and a rabbit, and that was before I even got re-involved into this fandom.

Ahhh sorry I shouldn't be ranting too much, I just wish people weren't afraid to use the creative juices in their mind. Cooking, writing, drawing, tinkering, decorating, there's a whole lot of verbs that challenges the mind and people should strive for it.
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>>80144851
>My big complaint is the pacing was way too fast
>never felt like we could settle down on a scene or a moment and take our time with it
>everything was breakneck and hurried because there was just so much going on in the runtime
>I think a few scenes should've been chopped and the overall movie left to breathe a little.
It's so funny to me that this appears to be everyone's biggest problem with the movie (including me) since it's basically just saying "We wanted to spend more time in Zootopia. You didn't give us enough time in Zootopia."

I don't know what the chances are, but hopefully the powers that be might approve a longer runtime for Zootopia 3 if the right people hear how common these criticisms are.
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I want to cum inside Al.
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>>80144631
>mfw you tell a little stoat dude he can't throw grape soda cans on the sidewalk because its littering and he starts ranting about "prey loving celebrities telling him what to do"
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With the laser focus on hopps and wilde there's still lots of neglected & unexplored territory for the Zootopia fandom. They could honestly make Zootopia 3 just like a Sly Cooper movie with zero connection to ZT 1&2 and I'd love it.

I've been on a writing streak lately so I'm going to try my own mammal inclusion initiative and come up with ideas for anything other than wildehopps.
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>>80145073
Remmy already had first dibs.
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>>80144957
"will they/won't they" works for a long-running TV series where there's new content coming out every year to keep everyone on the hook. Making people wait years and years on end only to give them cinematic blue balls is just bad business.

>But that's exactly what they did with Zootopia 2! We waited nine years and still didn't get what we wanted.
Yeah, but Zootopia was never written with any expectation or guarantee of there actually being a sequel, and outside of their natural chemistry as friends/partners, and an ambiguous throwaway line before the end credits, there wasn't really anything concrete to suggest a romantic relationship could be on the cards. And then it made over a billion dollars. Zootopia 2 on the other hand, ends on a post-credits sequel hook and is littered with things that suggest something more than friendship is likely on the horizon in a future instalment. I mean, they all but said that they love each other in the reunion scene, where else do you take their relationship arc from there?
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>>80144669
Unfortunately the showings in my local area have ended; it was the 17th which they last showed. Even if they were still showing the movie, I'd have to have someone drive me (I don't drive) and even though I could pay for my ticket, I'd be told "No, you already went and saw it, you don't need to go again" otherwise I would go again lol

As for Fox McCloud, he'll have to wait until tomorrow. I hope you and everyone here has a Merry Christmas!
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>Most of the reptiles are way, way too big in a setting that's been pretty faithful about size difference till now.
I'm not gonna lie, this just fucking hit me now and I didn't even realize. Looking at Jesús compared to Nick, the lizard is still taller than him which is nuts since that lizard (plumed basilisk) is comfortably the size of an adult human hand. No wonder they felt a little off, even Gary was scaled up a bit though his can be a little excusable since some species of snakes can get that big (even if it isn't own!)

>Honestly, the dolphin felt more out of place than the lizards, somehow.
Aquatic mammal like them having their own little bar implies that there are whales who could potentially pop up as sentient. Imagine having to go into work and a fucking blue whale clogs the entire tube line.

>never felt like we could settle down on a scene or a moment and take our time with it, everything was breakneck and hurried because there was just so much going on in the runtime.
>It's also why I feel we didn't get a very good look into any of the new characters.
100%. Beat after beat after beat, one scene to another there is a schedule to keep up with and they do not take any other breaks.

>That said he is pretty cute
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>with judy
Please no, not the Late Sssnake D:
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>>80145248
I'll cum inside Remmy while he cums inside Al.
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>>80145276
Damn that's hot Anon
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>>80145270
>Unfortunately the showings in my local area have ended; it was the 17th which they last showed.
What the fuck, really? Do you only live near a single-screen cinema or something? Guess I'm fortunate to live in a city with multiplexes in every major suburb. Avatar has already pushed it out of IMAX and off the bigger screens though, much to my chagrin.

>As for Fox McCloud, he'll have to wait until tomorrow.
Looking forward to it!

>I hope you and everyone here has a Merry Christmas!
Thanks, I did! It's actually already finished for me here in upside-down land lol. I hope you do too :D
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>Nibbles, imo, gets more characterization than Gary, and I still don't really have a good read on him.
yeah, i thought about they got about the same, but i was more interested in gary who does the positivity guru routine and after goes for the bite on pawbert like the most natural thing ever
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>>80145265
>"will they/won't they" works for a long-running TV series where there's new content coming out every year to keep everyone on the hook. Making people wait years and years on end only to give them cinematic blue balls is just bad business.
no it isn't they made 6 billion fucking dollars at the box office
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>>80145409
And imagine how much more they could make if they gave people what they wanted.
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>>80145434
anon to say you are overestimating how much people care about whether or not wildehopps is canon would be understating it
if anything by not committing to making the relationship canon they're having it both ways, which gives it a broader appeal than committing either way would
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>>80145464
Well, agree to disagree. "Bad business" was probably the wrong terminology to use to say what I meant anyway.

Either way, it still doesn't answer the question of where else do you take their relationship arc from there?
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Page 5, conclusion

finally on equal footing
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>>80145464
Make them a couple and then tease when they'll get married. Both sides get to eat good. Though I think putting of letting them kiss and confirm they're in love is bad for business because once it's confirmed people will go see that movie over and over just to see the kiss. Then they'll keep coming back to see what the couple get up to next, or if they'll propose, etc. A reason people love these characters is they're flawed and growing emotionally. Both in their issues and in their relationship. From enemies to rivals to friends to more. I give the Zoot team more credit than just stringing us along maliciously. We didn't see them with each other long enough in 1 for them to fall in love, then Nick passed into zpd. Well we still needed to build up for the audience how their relationship is so we can see what it's like now. To me there's a lot of things pointing to more than friends and more like soulmates.
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>>80145609
>Both sides get to eat good
how is that eating good for the side that doesn't want them to be a couple
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>>80145493
>Either way, it still doesn't answer the question of where else do you take their relationship arc from there?

In the third movie, the gang gets to go back to the Old West days of Zootopia and repeal the law that banned the original avian founders of the city. Gary and Nibbles get back to the present, while Nick and Judy get stranded.

They come back moments after Gary and Nibbles, but they've come back aged 10 years with their two children: Byron and Jared. Gary and Nibbles wave goodbye as the family goes off to the sky, the words "The End" flash on while Gazelle sings in the background leading to the credits.

There it is, that's all folks
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>>80145625
Oh yeah, also Gideon Grey Sr. is a notorious gang mammal. He ends up teetering with a blueberry pie behind him, and a pile of cowpie in front. He falls forward.
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>>80145585
This was so good weaver.
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>>80145585
Thanks Weaver this is really cute. It's nice to see your WildeHopps stuff. I really hope they won't keep it in the Disney shadow realm like you think.

>>80145624
They are a vast minority and would rather see a large portion of the fandom suffer just so they can be happy. Or they don't want them to be a couple out of spite. So it's still jerky.
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"NICK AND JUDY ARE ALIVE! THEY'RE IN THE OLD WEST, BUT THEY'RE ALIVE!"

>they've come back aged 10 years with their two children: Byron and Jared.
Does one of them gesture at the camera and then point at his dick?
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>>80145585
This is very cute, and the end dialogue is even more adorable.

Personal growth is the hottest thing!
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>>80145677
>Does one of them gesture at the camera and then point at his dick?

How the fuck did this make the final cut, I never noticed this lmao
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>They are a vast minority and would rather see a large portion of the fandom suffer just so they can be happy. Or they don't want them to be a couple out of spite. So it's still jerky.
I think Nick and Judy make a fantastic couple and I like drawing them together but I actually prefer them as platonic partners in the films for a ton of reasons and I was actually kinda relieved when they didn't kiss at the end of Z1.
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>>80145728
Oh they had no reason to kiss in Z1. I didn't feel there was enough there except a basis for a strong relationship. 2 however set a lot of things in place where they clearly care about the other. I guess I like seeing them grow closer and closer in 2 and am glad it does seem they're falling in love, because I've always thought friends into lovers was romantic. I see a lot of comments on various Zootopia 2 posts getting upset at people about platonic friends, but what's so bad about friends becoming more? I guess I'm just the odd one out. I mean I am alone so I guess there's that.

Thanks for the response Weaver. I wasn't trying to get on your nerves or anything. I'm glad you draw Wildehopps for all of us even if you don't care for it in the films.
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>>80142743
I love it! Thanks for drawing
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>>80145728
>I think Nick and Judy make a fantastic couple
>I actually prefer them as platonic partners in the films

Disney's number one couple in terms of chemistry and they aren't even together romantically at this point in time.
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>>80145705
They did so many takes that the kid actor eventually needed to pee and he was trying to tell them that, and then for some reason that was the take they used. Doesn't really answer your question though lol sorry
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>>80145392
Okay I'm actually a retard idiot, it was simply they weren't showing how far out the movies was showing for, I checked and they are still playing it.

I'm going for the Stranger Things finale January 1st, maybe I'll loiter in the theatre all day and see Z2 a second time lol

>It's actually already finished for me here in upside-down land lol. I hope you do too
Daaamn. My ex bf was Aussie but even then I don't remember the time difference being this flip flopped. My memory must be bad

Anyway, I probably actually should go to sleep now
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>>80145844
>even then I don't remember the time difference being this flip flopped
That was to say that *my* Christmas is already over. It's 7 PM on Christmas Day at the moment.
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>>80145844
> I don't remember the time difference being this flip flopped.
I'm keeping track of time that far away similarly mainly because my best friend is in China right now, Sichuan province.

Anyway, have a good night Anon! Merry Christmas to you.
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>>80145871
>It's 7 PM on Christmas Day at the moment.
NSW? I have a buddy from Tamworth I used to be close with.
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>>80145585
Thank you, weird green string hoofer
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>>80145827
>then for some reason that was the take they used.
I guess the other ones weren't as good haha. Answers the question enough, thanks.
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>>80145705
When movies were shot on film and the 'cutting room floor' was an actual, physical space where film strips were trimmed and spliced (all mostly still the case in 1989), reshoots were incredibly expensive and typically done only as a last resort for everything except the biggest productions. So before nonlinear editing and especially before digital photography, a *lot* of flubs like this would make it into TV and film productions, even if the editors noticed it, because there was more of an incentive to keep a take if it was otherwise 'good enough'.
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>>80145890
Ye, Sydney to be specific.

Tamworth's a pretty obscure place to know someone from half the world away lol.
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>>80145931
Well, to be fair, reshoots are still incredibly expensive (and a tremendous nuisance) even now. The difference is that budgets, and therefore the stakes, are a lot higher nowadays that the cost of reshooting something is easier to justify.
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>>80137762
Buckle in folks, here we fukin go...
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>>80146383
The last page was posted an hour ago bro
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>>80139238
Go on, do the final panel with them fucking on the floor in front of them while Dr Fuzzby squirts them with the bottle.
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I'm glad you like it, and no problem. Good practice.
>>80145871
Oh I knew you meant you were ahead of me, I just forgot how far ahead you really were. ;P
>>80145876
I haven't got any friends on the other side of the world - all US and Canada for me!

Also, I whipped up this sketch of Fox McCloud in about 15 minutes. I had the urge to draw him so I had to do it. His design is based on his Adventures depiction (my favourite version of him) thus the weird clothes. However, I decided not to draw his gloves or boots because I like drawing paws.
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>>80146565
>I just forgot how far ahead you really were. ;P
Yeah it can be rough trying to maintain contact with you lovely North Americans because of the difference, I remember that from the Zootopia 1 days. I wake up a bit earlier then back then though so I don't miss as much overnight when you all wake up.

>Also, I whipped up this sketch of Fox McCloud in about 15 minutes.
Oh, awesome! I like his design way more as a Zootopian-style fox. Human fingers never really looked right on him. So you're keeping his fur colour the same as the real character it looks like?

>However, I decided not to draw his gloves or boots because I like drawing paws.
Makes sense for a Zootopia character design anyway
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>>80146670
>Yeah it can be rough trying to maintain contact with you lovely North Americans because of the difference
Well I'm the sort who stays up all night (4 AM - 5 AM EST) and then sleeps all day (until 2 PM or 3 PM), I'm generally much more active here at night or in the evening.
>Human fingers never really looked right on him.
I agree to an extent, but I am kinda endeared to his original more human-shaped design regardless. First furry crush and all that.
>So you're keeping his fur colour the same as the real character it looks like?
Yeah, like Skye he has cream coloured fur, so Fox is either a corsac or a leucistic red fox... I'm betting on red with colour mutation. Maybe in universe (as my suggestion of him being an actor / model) it would make him "cooler" or more desirable.
I also wasn't sure how to convert his boots to something that would look right on paws shaped like that, and yeah, in Zootopia none of the animals seem to ever wear shoes.

I like this sketch so much, I think I will colour it later. It will be the first of all of the MS Paint sketches I posted to get a full colour treatment. I may even draw some solo NSFW with this design because I like how he looks so much lol

Now I gotta do Krystal. But that really will be later.
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>>80141769
>is there a fan-made comic or imagining of if the original shock collar plot had been made?
This is probably the closest to what you are after (and if not, worth reading to understand some of the lore of the /ztg/ site;
>https://e621.net/pools/8475
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>>80146763
>Well I'm the sort who stays up all night (4 AM - 5 AM EST) and then sleeps all day (until 2 PM or 3 PM)
lol I remember those days, I'd probably still be doing the same were it not for needing to have a job. I actually read about something recently called the Sentinel Hypothesis that basically posits that the fact that some people are night owls may have had an evolutionary purpose, as they would've acted as the night watch in ancestral human communities.

>I agree to an extent, but I am kinda endeared to his original more human-shaped design regardless. First furry crush and all that.
I think his design overall is fine for the most part, his height isn't disproportionate, for example. Just the fingers kinda bother me in a "can't unsee it" sort of way.

>I'm betting on red with colour mutation. Maybe in universe (as my suggestion of him being an actor / model) it would make him "cooler" or more desirable.
That would be an interesting way to explain it and also expand the lore since there's no issues with natural colour mutations existing in Zootopia that I can think of.

>I may even draw some solo NSFW with this design because I like how he looks so much lol
Haha, by all means. I can't imagine there'd be many complaints if you did that (apart from the usual schizos)

>Now I gotta do Krystal.
I'd like to know how you're gonna explain the elephant in the room there lol
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Giving it a read now. Nick brings up something interesting, that I questioned about the collar universe - how can any predator have sex if any sort of getting worked up triggers the shock?
>I'd probably still be doing the same were it not for needing to have a job.
I'm sorry you gotta have one. I'm severely mentally ill (OCD) and too anxious to learn to drive (embarrassing when I legally could have gotten it 10 years ago) so I don't have one and won't be forced to. Currently I live with family and any money earned through commissions is mine to keep.
>I think his design overall is fine
I really only like his Adventures design; the rest I can take or leave. I think he looks bizarre in most other entries; his muzzle resembles a duck beak in those other games, and the legs look weird too (I know about the theory they're metal for pilot reasons which I don't like lol)
>That would be an interesting way to explain it and also expand the lore
When someone posted what looked to be the Starfox SNES game I just instantly headcanoned Fox is a real guy in universe who posed for the game. I suppose he'd be quite a bit older than Nick then, in this theory.
>I'd like to know how you're gonna explain the elephant in the room there lol
A couple. Her fur colour, and of course her boobs. For fur colour, the silver morph of the red fox kinda looks blue sometimes, with the right lighting. So I could dull her colour a little and pretend if she's also an actress, mirroring Fox, then she'd simply be a blue-ish tinted silver morph red fox who they paint / dye the markings and stuff on to get her character's colours right. Then there's the boobs. I don't know if it's been discussed, but what's the consensus on breasts in Zootopia? Do mammals have the amount of nipples they do IRL or do the female all have only two breasts? I can't tell which they're going for in canon. Females definitely have the more shapely bodies, but there's no visible cleavage on any character.
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>>80146915
Meant to tag your post in my reply here, my bad
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>>80142881
>2002 then Daft Punk and Fatboy Slim
Those would be the age related bands, but Mink Floyd is timeless, and albums like 'Dark side of the Moose', and 'Wish Gnu Were Here' would correctly reflect how and where Nick fits into his environment.
(sort of related art)
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>>80147009
>I'm sorry you gotta have one
I'm not so much sorry that I've gotta have one, I'm more sorry that I have the one I have lel. It's not retail or anything atrociously bad, it's just not particularly fulfilling.

>I'm severely mentally ill (OCD) and too anxious to learn to drive
I didn't want to seem too parasocial, but I did see your journal entry on FA where you said you didn't want pity or sympathy, so I'll try to refrain from that. I have ADHD, so I'm somewhat familiar with the struggle. Medication helps but it's far from a be-all and end-all solution. It took me a few years to get around to getting my license, it's really nothing to be all that embarrassed about, and anyone that tries to make you feel that way can eat a dick.

>When someone posted what looked to be the Starfox SNES game
As usual, that was me :D

>Her fur colour, and of course her boobs
You spelled it with a U! I guess Bluey is having a further reaching influence than I thought (joking btw lol). I was thinking about the fur colour, her boobs didn't even cross my mind, for once. That's not a bad way to get around the issue though. Your photo looks like it might've been taken with some kind lens attachment, maybe a UV filter. I checked out the photographer's blog but they don't mention if they used one or not. Anyway the point I was getting at was that maybe in Zootopia when they photograph her they might use a special filter and/or careful lighting to make her appear more blue.

>I don't know if it's been discussed, but what's the consensus on breasts in Zootopia?
I don't think there's been anything official that even hints at the answer to this question. My gut feeling is to say they only have two but it's not based on anything solid other than I guess some female clothing in Zootopia does still seem to be designed around the chest (i.e. anything Gazelle is ever seen wearing).
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>>80145585
Heartfelt as always Weaver, into the collection it goes...
On another note, was there any possibly of 'The Late Snake' continuing?
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>>80145728
Kek
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>>80146470
Got home from the family get together, and actually finished reading the previous thread, before working my way down this one.
I'm a slow reader, but hey, I got here eventually.
Timezones confuse things as well.
Anywho...
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>>80137762

This was a great treat to wake up to after christmas. Thanks Weaver, we love ya.
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I did say it was 100% projection, to be fair. I just don't want Nick to be thought of as pic related.
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>>80145728
okay but can we agree that they went too far with the ship teasing?

If they wanted to make a platonic friendship story, you don't need the two characters do a "married couple with a kid disguise", or have the two characters attend to what is essentially a couples counseling session, or have other character mistake them for a couple and play Bella Notte to them, or have them investigate a honeymoon lodge, and have their "break up" moment literally happen by splitting the honeymoon lodge in half.

None of these are needed for a friendship story, and having one of them is a good joke, but ALL OF THEM feels like very heavy hinting and if they would not make them a couple in zootopia 3, that would feel like the movie is mocking the idea of the ship instead of supporting it
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>>80147351
>okay but can we agree that they went too far with the ship teasing?
They're not trying to make them look platonic. They're trying to make it ambiguous enough that people who take either interpretation can read it that way.
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>>80147438
>They're trying to make it ambiguous enough that people who take either interpretation can read it that way.
If that's what they're actually doing then all I have to say is shit or get off the pot.
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>>80146905
Pretty sure a tattoo on the glans would only cause injury and not actually work... tattoos only work on skin. Humans can do that because human glans is only at the tip, as opposed to everything past the sheath in this pic. Also, pic looks like AI slop.
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>>80147459
What for? It's the best of both moneymaking worlds. If I was getting paid off this movie, I'd do it too.
Every plot beat you can imagine is going to play out the same way with their bond as-is. What I really want is more exploration of Nick.
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>>80147459
They made 6 billion dollars at the box office, I think they can just keep doing what they're doing.
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>>80147535
I don't know whose ass you pulled 6 billion out of but as of right now both movies combined have grossed about $2.3 billion.
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>>80147557
They, being Disney, made 6 billion at the box office, largely due to the runaway success of Zootopia 2. Zootopia 2 did not make 6 billion by itself.
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>>80147535
Whats this 6 Bill figure I keep seeing?
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>>80147578
60 vulpillion dollars at the box offices anon. A full, bushy-tailed sweep.



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