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lolicon is pedophilia
>>80192338>lolicon is pedophiliaAnd that's a good thing.Look at the word: pedo = child, philia = love. Your parents are pedophiles. I really don't see how "RAPING THE SHIT OUTTA CHILDREN" fits the definition of any kind of love according to how the Greeks define them
>>80192338No it isn't.
>>80192338
>>80192944>>80192962>I fap to drawn adult men, but I'm not gay>I fap to drawn feet, but I don't have a foot fetish>I fap to drawn children, but I'm not a pedophile>>80192919You're retarded. Take this as a horseshoe. The more I've seen death videos the more densitized to death I have become. Conditioning complete. I've seen a dude flatted out by a truck and I kept eating my Sammy I'm just not feeling that way anymore. I've seen it all sure some is like extra gory and shit and you'll get squeamish watching people be deconstructed like meat but ult it doesn't really change anything that way cause we've seen it all. Take it as a horseshoe. I'm gonna scrap the idea post here and just send you a headline and check the stats. You're not pulling the number back you're only accounting for reports today. Child maltreatment and sex abuse is rampart in Japan and the normalization of their feitish is the causer.
>Lolicon is not related to pedophilia,Sweet, sweet denial. Both leftists and anything on the right keeps saying that loli=pedo.You know, I wouldn't say that lolicon is pedophilia either. But that they aren't related at all? Dude.
>>80193003The relationship is that the people who talk about lolicon nonstop are the real pedophiles wearing a subculture disguise and trying to sneak in the back door to use lolicon as pedophilia despite the phenomenon being a bit messier than that. You can tell because they care about nothing else in anime and manga. It’s the same gamergate crowd of tourists pretending to stand up for the community in order try to seize control.
>>80192338As disturbing as it may be, Lolis are cartoons. It's not fucking real. Don't try to compare that to actual pedos. Should it be illegal? Probably... but it's not.
>>80193069>Should it be illegal? ProbablyFaggot
>>80193069pedophilia is attraction to children. Not all pedophiles are child molesters, and this particular cope you're giving me is fully dependent on there being no difference between the two. If you're sexually attracted to drawings of kids, you're a pedo. Sorry buddy
>>80193149So is it the way their bodies are rendered that makes them children, the way they act, their expressed age, or an amalgamation of these facts. I'm confused. Because some characters I've noticed get called Lolis but they are really adults or are just drawn with really tiny proportions. What makes a drawing truly a depiction of a child
>>80192338 Why do normalfags hate lolis so much? pls explain
>>80193170>or an amalgamation of these factsyes>I'm confusedit's called cognitive dissonance. This is another cope centered around the questionably aged anime girls as if they're an accurate representation of what lolipedos are beating off to.Also good to remember that the commonly referenced "uoh" meme specifically mentions a "child belly" being "erotic"
there is not a single valid reason to hate lolis/shota/cub/kemono
>>80193224You know I mostly agree with you I think. But at the end of the day, Im not sure how I feel about pedophiles that like Loli compared to pedos that like actual cp. One doesn't seem to me as bad as the other when it comes to casting moral judgement. I'll be vulnerable here, maybe because I myself watch hentai exclusively and not actual porn. I can relate more to them in some ways if that doesn't sound too fucked up
>>80193315>I myself watch hentai exclusively and not actual pornYeah you've been brainwashed by anime. Japan has included sexual situations in shows meant for kids for a very long time. You probably grew up watching it, internalizing the sexualization of kids and young teens as normal and maybe just a little quirky. The majority of loli people aren't going to ever molest a child, but the normalization of that kind of sexualization absolutely does lead to real grooming. Kids watch anime now and think it's fine to discord date a 30 year old with a touhou pfp. Hentai is so bizarre and unrealistic that it will completely fuck up your sexuality and turn you into a drooling goon brained retard.Anime is made to be addictive. Think about it. Do you actually think it's good? The most popular shows are just nothing happening while you're shown panty shots and preteen girl legs. The art styles are all the same, the characters all look and act the same, and there are rarely any movies or shows about anyone older than high school age. It's just slop.
>>80193414I don't know if you can blame all that shit on anime dude, a lot of that shit sounds like bad parenting, and a lack of establishing boundaries and instilling "stranger danger" within children. You do have a point about the hyper-sexualization of children, but guess what, that happens in Western media as well especially to young girls. Not exclusive to anime.>Do you actually think it's good?Yes, I do. Though most of it is garbage. I would say that 90% of it is in fact garbage. You have a handful of good and compelling shows and movies that come out every decade, but yes it is few and far between. Most of it is slop. But that goes for all artforms pretty much, including music.
>>80192338>>80193195 Personally I find it disgustingBut it's useful for keeping pedophiles and other rapists from acting out their fantasiesThe "abduction/home alone" plots though should be banned though, real life pedophiles in Japan have been inspired to rape children from those
YOU VILL KEEP ARGUING ABOUT ZE LOLICON AND GENERATIVE AI AND YOU VILL NOT STOP ARGUING ABOUT IT, GOYIMS!
>>80193195 Normies don't get anime, they can find a little girl adorable, but not on anime, beause it's a cartoon, therefore childish. Let alone find a little girl sexually atractive, that's unspeakable in most western influenced cultures.You niggers don't understand, but outside a very small amount of people like lolis, and most will deny it even to their fellow degenerate friends if they have any, in the eyes of a normie, a child molester and a lolicon is the same thing
>>80192338do you ever get tired of making this post?
>>80192338Yeahand?
>"All pedos should be tortured to death haha" "What do you think anon?" >Y-Yeah, those goddamn p-pedos! Haha! H-how do you propose w-we torture them? >"You're acting very strange anon! Are you a pedo?!" >"S-sorry! I-It's just that those damn d-dirty p-pedophiles piss me off! I w-wish they'd be drawn and q-quartered by there p-pathetic puny pedo pencil dicks! T-that's how much I-I hate pedos! W-what would you do?">"I'm not buying it! Grab him guys!">*get grabbed by normies*>"Now let's go check his computer!"
>>80193599 >DUUUDE WHY ARENT YOU NORMALFAGS A PEDO LIKE ME?!
easy bait xd
As a lolicon myself I have to say that you need to stop spamming these threads.
>>80192338reddit is the other way you normalfaggot
>>80192338as the saying goes.. those who scream it the loudest...
The worst part about the right wing is how big tent it all is and always wraps back around to sex and pure contrarianism. They'll be a meme or joke that's making fun of corporate greed and the two responses are either a sarcastic "Cool it with the anti-semetism" or a 4 paragraph response defending the greedy corpos and all consuming greed is counter-culture. Genuinely only the anti-semite can be saved.Is Anime degenerate cringe that weakens the spirit, or are Japanese gacha based for being willing to show sex compared to western slop?Is marrying an asian or a latina woman based "colonizing" or cringe race-mixing? Are you holding out for the idea of a tomboy that hasn't existed since middle school? No! That's the liberal media trying to shill anti-femineity. Ask if lolicon is pedophilia ( or just outright state it like >>80192338 ), and they'll tell you>Yes, it's degenerate, they should all be killed>No, it's just a drawing of a child with no deeper meaning>Refuse to answer, also we should lower the age of ConsentAnd they're all proudly conservative, shit-flinging trying to convince the rest of the thread the other side is liberal.
Didn't read all that, sorry.
>>80192338Yes.
>>80192338If you think the lewd drawings look like real children, maybe you're the one with the problem.
>>80192338>>80193604>>80193690>>80193224Based anons fighting the good fight for drawing rights by threatening the evil pedos on 4chan, keep doing what you do best
>>80192338BASEDIf killing pedos was legalised, me and my friends would go door to door, dragging pedos out by the hair and torturing them to death in front of the baying crowds. I don't know a single person who wouldn't do thatPedophiles are the worst people in society, even worse than mass murderers and terrorists. And yes, lolicon is pedophilia, since it's usually traced from cp. THankfully goverments are catching up, in a lot of countries you can go to jail for loli, but it's not enoughDEATH TO PEDOPHILES
>>80192338No... It can't LE be..
>>80192338>completely omits shota
>>80192312>Xitter artists vs. Grok promptfagsI'm tired, boss...
Why are you faggots so easy to BAIT IT'S LITERALLY EVERY THREAD
>>80193822Curious indeed.. It's almost if..
>>80193787If killing pedos was legalized, shitloads of non-pedos would be murdered by brainlets like you who likely don't know what one is. Better hope you don't end up on the wrong side of the mob. Not to mention how much of a mistake it would be to back people in a corner like that. Bad enough they can't be open about it if just to get help, you back them into a corner by threatening them with death. Many people will just stop giving a shit and go out like Columbine.
Fuck AI
>>80192312pic is kinda true, that book has a very specific exercises, almost opposite to sexy slop that is popular here
Problem with anti pedo idiots today is that they are redifining what pedophilia is each year.Each year they make the definition more and more loose, both in how it's being treated in fiction and reality
>browsing catalogue>see new /acrg/ thread already at 50 replies>expect the usual culprit>enter thread
>>80193925first day on 4naan?
>>80193839I want to huff Judy's nasty propaganda farts right out of her hole
>>80192993You are just another NPC, idoctrinated by society to believe the greatest crime possible is to have attraction for any person under 18 years old even by a day.
>30 year olds get baited by antiloliAt this point i do want loli banned so you faggots can stop getting baited by this shit
>>80192338We HAVE to be better men..
>>80193105>FaggotNEVERMIND, IT PROBABLY SHOULD- NO, IT DEFINITELY SHOULDbecause children literally do not know any better and faggots like you are eager to take advantage of them for your own personal pleasure because you're a sick twisted freak who cares about nobody but themselvesso many lives are ruined by terrible excuses for human beings who value the feeling in their pathetic reproductive organs more than the growth and safety of LITERAL CHILDRENevery single argument you fucking pedophiles make is a fake, gay, unbased strawman that is your futile attempt to justify taking advantage of someone who LITERALLY DOES NOT KNOW ANY BETTERKILLYOURSELF t. nta
>>80194010I don't think Rev Says Desu on www.youtube.com is gonna like this very much, anon...
>>80194010no one is even talking about taking advantage of anyone, you're replying to a guy talking about drawings
>>80194010you got some serious projecting going on right now
>>80193835I have both anti-AI fatigue and anti-anti-AI fatigue
>>80192338shooter players are real shooters.
>>80192338>DONT>LOOK>AT DRAWINGS1!!!!!!!
>>80194163Bring back the asylums
>>80194173Most FPS players don't get sexually aroused by shooting people. >inb4 arousing = bad, enjoy killing = goodYes. Shooting people in video games is a fun way to calm down and stimulate that violent chimp part of your brain that every human (or at least male human) has. It's the same as shooting your friends with water guns when you were growing up.Fapping however is a completely different kind of stimulation that acts more like a drug and has a much more negative impact on the human brain. By fapping to illustrated cp you're slowly conditioning yourself into becoming a legitimate pedophile, meanwhile shooter games are just dumb fun.
>>80194227once you have a coherent thought I'll listen. This is just the ramblings of a insane person.
>>80193265Cub should be accepted like any other fetish instead of "muh pedophilia"
For people who say they totally not care about antilolis, you guys sure have a way of spamming their most obvious baits.
>>80193265>>80193195There's nothing wrong with cub, shota, or loli. But the problem comes with people equating it to pedophilia and trying to blur the lines between fantasy and reality.
>>80192944>loli isn't pedophilia.Loli is degeneracy. You are part of the degenerates like homos. Imagine lusting after drawing of children and thinking you have any moral highground.
>>80194342t. cub club pedophilia expert
>>80194502>doesn't know how to t.newfag
>>80193195A gynocentric mindset puts more reverence of women over men, this extends to fiction. It's why there's so much hoopla over sexy women in video games as a moralist argument, whilst being indifferent to egregious violence. Or something more relevant to the thread; it's why people seem more tolerant to shotacon when it involves a clearly older woman paired with a shorter, 'ambiguous age' male, but raise an eyebrow when the genders are flipped.
>>80193195>>80193069>>80193105
>Japanese loli artists are still seething about Elong as always
>>80192338Fatal vore is snuff murderFeral is bestiality Unwilling sex is rapeNTR is cuckoldry
Stop reference drawing my cat you freaking freaks!!
>>80194529>t.
>>80194674Me and my nigga hanging out at the group home to watch his collection of thrifted Barney VHS tapes
>CHADophilia OUTTA NOWHERE
If LRD saw /arcg/ his head would fucking explode lmao
>imagine defending ai
>>80192338(You)
artbros...
>>80196559>cancer or whateverThat second reply has to be a fucking bait
>>80196559>There is no way to more efficiently do this with an algorithm that isnt relying on data centers which poison the water
>>80196902Saar...
>>80196902firebomb the datacenters for the environment saar
Least retarded Deltarune fan
>US capitalism is parasites calling people who dont hand them money parasitesAt least be a kinky parasite that goes into my bowels and drugs me ffs
is this shmorky?https://xcancel.com/DUNKINKK_D/status/1793355350134964637
>>80197882That's just typical trannycoded art.
>everyone uploading pictures as gifs to stop the "ai edit" feature, while degrading their image quality Fucking kek, niggers will literally do everything but go to a different site
Is this what eating animal shit does to a man?
>Amazing artist becomes addicted to drugs and art style turns into deviantart levels of eyesore
>>80198118It's kinda kino though
>>80198109I'm surprised good old poopbeak isn't brought up in this general more considering what the focus is these days.
>>80196559I love how they all of a sudden give a so much of a damn about the environment but you know they still use plastic bags and drive gas guzzlers
>>80197934that explains why
Kek
>>80198269>w goons>questionable goonsI fucking hate this slang bro
>Talk about something>Yeah my OC can do that >Talk about some other thing>Yeah my OC can do that>Talk about yet another thing >Yeah my OC can do that Always about you huh?
>>80198166That isn't kino it's grim, really sad to see someone let themselves go like thisAnd he draws nasty hypershit now for money
>>80198872He has gone the way of the evilpenis...
>>80198872did i stutter?
>>80199203>Worst taste possible
>>80199339no, the first part is kino. them doing hypershit should get them the electric chair
>>80198118Why are we vague posting
>>80198269it’s always zoomers being hamas sympathizers
>>80192993thats caused by Aijeets workers
>>80196697why do aijeets always go for really shitty art ?
>>80200322It's because artists with shitty artstyles always pick a fight with aijeets
>>80200465That bitch is still doing content?
>>80200465Has Lavendertowne always been an obnoxious quirk chungus type?
i miss when we actually talked about artists and actual artists lurked here. i miss the jinu leaks. i miss the PENIS harassment into privating combo. i miss it all. i don't know why i still come here. it's just the lowest form of bait in the form of a "lolicon is pedophilia" post followed by an argument of that for the rest of the thread. i understand the firestarter is bait but i don't understand why everyone else from both sides plays along. I should stop bothering with this thread man. It's over
>>80200523discussion about your fat garbage is repetitive and no one cares about your autistic Jinu/Cake shit that went on loop for years. This is punishment for your mental illness, get out of your algo bubble you've been in since your balls dropped. AI will replace you.
>>80200523>. i miss the jinu leaksYou're the same exact nigger that kept making posts in /acrg/ complaining about people talking about jinu for 10 threads in a row going "OHOHOHMYGOOODD WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT HIMMMM!!!??????"SYBAU WHYTE BOI
>>80200523Used to be a fun little drama thread now its just a spiral of "I bet I could make the other side SOOOO mad by replying this" over and over till the thread hits 300 then they start again.
>>80200490AI made her this way. Same with saberspark.
>>80196559You know, it's genuinely terrifying that the propaganda of "muh wawa disappear because AI" propaganda worked so fucking well. These people genuinely believe the water simply disappears when it's used for cooling and not just sent right back into whatever reservoir or river it's attached to. Not only that but the water cycle is just completely beyond these retards' comprehension
Alright, lets do this.Lolicon is pedophilia, but there's a real problem with how people approach that. People start to get all deranged with what they consider a "loli" and start labelling short women or flat chested women as lolis. Another issue is that with people acknowledging that lolicon is pedophilia, you also have people who want to call literally anything else pedophilia. I've seen people say its pedophilia to sexualize characters from children's media, even if the character is of age (Examples being Mrs. Incredible). There's a legitimate negative moral spiral with that. But it dosent take away from the fact that lolicon is pedophilia. And you need help if you consume it, fuckin stop. Us adults shouldnt be so retarded that we cant figure out the difference between porn of child characters and porn of Blaze from Sonic and screaming "OMG ITS CHILD PORN CUZ SHES CANONICALLY fOURTEEN!1!1!!" despite the fact that she does not look fourteen.As for AI, as an artist myself, meh. The idea of getting angry over AI, unless youre planning to go into the industry, has always been retarded in my opinion. Even worse the people who go "Omg I might give up art cause of AI". What a pathetic bitch, you're going to stop doing your hobby cause of Siri? You never enjoyed art then, it was always for clout, retard.Even more pathetic the people like Lavendertowne who go to war with it as if it's a real person, "Go on, steal it :)" as if the AI is real and will be hurt by you putting viruses in your art. It's actual schizo behavior. It's not alive and it dosen't hate you because it cannot hate. I draw for fun, AI literally will never take that from me and if it does to you then you never liked art. Simple. (Again, unless you're in the industry.)
>>80200937when you convince a people a resource can only be "consumed", they believe it of all resources.It's why recycling never took off (well, that and individual recycling is pretty much worthless when stacked against the industrial waste output of India and China).
No victim, no crime.>>80201189You NEED to scrub your carbon and put nets on your outflow because 1 nigger let a garbage bag blow away, it's all your fault you are killing the planet. You stupid goy, it's going to be waterworld because of duh AI, my carbon credit score as a human artist was so much lower bro plssssssssss cmon man stop AI, don't be a chud. Let's bring in more shitskins I need more thicc consumers.
the real thing is never sexyonly adults are hot in fantasy and reality
>>80201494I like being in a plushie RL so im already 2 steps ahead soft elastic tube push me through it
>>80201721that's kinda cheating the systemyou should rub your dick on it ><
>>80200745proof?
>>80200624you prefer loli/shota morality debates?
>>80201887I don't give a fuck as long as you aren't shilling your fat and hyper cock shit incessantly.
>>80201189You're definitely right. This also applies to "carbon footprint" which I see "environmentalists" actually still use, even though it's been an open secret that it was coined by oil companies offload the blame to the consumer, which as we've all seen was very successful.
>>80200750>now its just a spiral of "I bet I could make the other side SOOOO mad by replying this" over and over till the thread hits 300 then they start again.To be fair, that's most of this site at this point
>>80201919if you dont want artist ranting why are you here
>>80192338Yea, and?
>>80201958why is every website twitter?
>>80201113>you need help if you consume it, fuckin stopTaking that you mean they should get psychiatric help, because really generic 'get help' posts like this generally just amount to thinking of that, it would probably go counter to the next statement.Psychs aren't wizards who can change what one's cock rises to willy nilly, and they in fact have no reason to even suggest attempting such unless it's something that causes or can cause harm to oneself or others. Which fapping to drawings does not. Doesn't matter if a fat basement dweller is fapping to regular anime drawings, lolicon, drawn guro or sonic the hedgehog. The result is the same, a dude cums, an artist gets a like or view and no one is harmed or bothered because drawings cannot be.
is there truly such a thing as a "good" art site for artists online?listening to the whole shit going on with the grok watermark thing made me realise how indifferent I am to it all despite it potentially affecting me and how much twitter never really WAS an art site per se.
>>80202340Twitter and tumblr are good IF you already have a following, but building from scratch on those palces is HARD. Twitter you tend to get more raw numbers, but tumblr you get more actual interaction. I have posts from literal years ago that still circulate on tumblr. Plus with recent garbage numbers on twitter are quite a bit down, so even that upside is dissapearing.bluesky despite everyone complaining has very high ratio of engagement to followers, so you feel like your stuff gets seen once you build up a bit.Instagram is ok but its really hard ot build there and you can't look at stuff without an account so you kill any lurking engagement.Itaku is probably the best gallery site, though you'll get low engagement.Pillowfort, Deviantart, and Cara are just not worth it, they are all dead and/or dying.Furaffinity if you are a furry has good levels of interaction most the time, though again its a bit hard to build from scratch.Inkbunny if you are a furry and don't care about the rep the place usually gets. Unironically better tagging and filter systems than Furaffinity, and far less is banned, for better and worse.Mastodon and all those branches are if you are into things inkbunny bans or like linux, otherwise steer clear.
>>80192338every seething reply is from someone with high amounts of estrogen.
>>80194575People weirdly forget that CP was legal in Japan up until like 10 years ago. But I guess that wouldn’t fit the whole “western lolicons are le actual pedos” narrative
>>80201113>Sonicfag calling anyone pedophiles >Jerks off to Blaze>”Erm she doesn’t look like a 14 year old so-“Cream doesn’t look like a 6 year old yet you fags get your panties in a twist over porn of her. Actually kill yourself
>>80202620why do women hate loli?>>80202625do they consider lolicon as pedos in japan?
>>80202721>Cream doesn’t look like a 6 year oldshe does actually!
>>80202089Rage, and other negative emotions, but mostly rage, have been shown to drive more engagement in social media than positive content.And I mean shown even by research, to cite one>https://doi.org/10.1080/21670811.2025.2505566>"rage bait headlines were linked to higher levels of audience engagement"Thus ragebait drives more engagement, which is what social media sites want, so they promote it. Facebook was shown to do it, twitter does it, most probably do. Xitter has it particularly bad because it pays for engagement, which is why you have indian accounts there making political ragebait larping as whatever american political fanatic. Low effort, high engagement, they get cash from xitter.It's only natural that without something driving against doing it, (you) maximizers would run with it too to get max engagement. By simple reason of getting as much engagement as possible, so too will every website unless they have reason against it.
>>80202768>she does actually!She looks like a bobbleheaded mutant rabbit freak of nature, like the rest of the Sonic characters. Kill yourself now
>>80202768Most sonic characters just look like the same or similar body template copypasted over and she's no different
>>80202769I miss silly people posting about being happywe have people pretending to be like that but they are horny and/or trying to groom some kids
>>80202768You would not assume Cream is 6yrs old and Tails is 8 if no one told you.
>>80201113>People start to get all deranged with what they consider a "loli" and start labelling short women or flat chested women as lolisA lot of popular lolis are just short flat chested women though. If your definition of a loli is "literal child" you don't know what a loli is even if a majority of lolis are typically elementary school aged
Post images that scare Sonic fags
>>80202987too old16 is pretty much an adultif i told you what i was doing at 16 x3
>>80202919Reminds me of this one artist that lost their minds over Tails and Cream porn, yet they avidly defended themselves drawing porn of Amy because she's not "minor-coded". It's just a constant flip flop over what's ethical to goon to and what isn't. One day they'll be saying drawing porn of Sage is wrong because she's built like a small kid but then the next it's fine because "she's actually built like Midna and is an ai" or whatever retarded nonsense cope they spout next
>>80203209>copeyou mean facts
2D characters have more rights than people
>>80203251If you want an actual fact Sage is not built like Midna and if you genuinely think so you are retarded