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MUDA MUDA Edition

Previous thread: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/81121229

OP Template
https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/hhg-template/

/hhg/ website:
https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/

>Hazbin Hotel
Hazbin Hotel is the story of Charlie, the princess of Hell, as she pursues her seemingly impossible goal of rehabilitating demons to peacefully reduce overpopulation in her kingdom. She opens a hotel in hopes that patients will be "checking out" into Heaven.

Hazbin Hotel Pilot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlmswo0S0e0

>Helluva Boss
Follow Blitzo, a classic demon Imp who sets out to run his own small assassin business with his weapons specialist Moxxie, his bruiser Millie, and his receptionist hellhound Loona. Together they attempt to survive each other while running a startup in Hell.

Helluva Boss Pilot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlahNrlcgS4

Episode playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-uopgYBi65HwiiDR9Y23lomAkGr9mm-S

Official website:
https://www.hazbinhotel.com/

Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss full episodes & shorts & downloads
[NOTE] The moment the Prime versions of HB are released and HH S2 is released it will be uploaded onto this site:
https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/hhg-shows/

Previous threads:
https://desuarchive.org/trash/search/text/hhg/type/op/results/thread

/hhg/ Cytube channel:
https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/hhg-ct-redirect/

/hhg/ Season 2 leaks:
https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/s2/s2leaks

/hhg/ booru (a little dead):
https://hhg.booru.org/

Psyanon fanfic recordings:
https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/psyanon-recordings/

/hhg/ fics:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yt9eyw09rgvo2zw/AAARltoYS1-aW-FYF8aQx4Pja?dl=0
https://pastebin.com/u/mrkillwolf666/1
https://archiveofourown.org/collections/hhg_fics
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Filling Charlie with Bird-Fawns
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Suckin' on Bee's lil' toes.
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Anime website btw.
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>>81140196
>Was 4chan ever an anime website
Bait or that much of a new flag it hurts. Watch he'll say he's been here since 08 or something.
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>>81140227
>Flag
I'm on a phone deal with it nigger.
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When It comes to older stuff I am an Outlaw Star enjoyer. The Space Pirate aesthetic of it and Cowboy Bebop always seemed cool to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoDUxs3rlRU
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>>81140155
And where the fuck are they? What did they make?

I know they act like it was such a big deal, but the end results are pure emptiness in the 2020s. Harry Potter led to more relevant developments in changing the entire themepark industry.
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>>81140278
Based taste.
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>>81140289
>It's starting to foam at the mouth
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>>81140150
I need more of Charlie being a busty or chubby mound of cuddles.

I prefer her to be both big and tall.
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>>81140289
>t.
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>>81140306
I’m serious. I genuinely do care about this. And I fucking despise seeing anime’s presence in my western media because it downgrades it all to hell once it gets sucked up more and more.

It ruins my appetite to enjoy anything anymore.
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>>81140344
>It ruins my appetite to enjoy anything anymore.
Then stick iron in your mouth and pull the trigger.
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>>81140341
Vaggie...
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>>81140344
>I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND I AM FUCKING ANGRY AT THIS AND I CAN'T SLEEP BECAUSE THE HECKIN ANIME EXISTS AND ITS IN THE PRESENCE OF MY MEDIA WHILE I USE AN ANIME WEBSITE I CAN'T FUCKING SLEEEEEEEP
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>>81140348
It’s not my fault you enjoy your badly colored slop and I don’t.
I just rip it off the seams.
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>>81140344
Then blame the westoid niggers for fucking it up, they gotta learn to do their thing
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>>81140361
They are learning to be like japs.
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>>81140359
Atrocious English. Possibly a jeet, but I'll respond.
>Poorly colored slop
There isn't a fat cunt in glitch studios that can reproduce this level of color and quality.
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i just hate jews, indians (and anything close like pakis), ratchet hood niggas, and islam
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>>81140287
Epstein is tied to paid dlc and loot boxes. Him being in 4chan to enjoy his porn and people who are just as racist and unhinged as he is way too normal.
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>anime influence.
You don't know how influential anime is. Every new generation animator is influenced by anime. They fucking animated Yutaka Nakamura cubes in the Alastor vs Vox fight.
II'l fucking kneel if they have an Itano Circus somewhere down the line.
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>>81140237
I'm noticing that they didn't respond to my post. They hope I don't bring it up again. I'm doing exactly that. Hiiii roonigger, this is the same typing style as your "stalker" and I'm noticing it. Stop baiting our general please! Nobody cares about your gay ops on hating anime.
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>>81140384
Sounds like a cope that I don't believe anything my government puts out. Epstein didn't kill himself.
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>>81140289
Every serialized anime for like the last twenty years?
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>>81140400
I'm so fucking glad I'm not the only one that straight up just doesn't believe the shit anymore and finds it sus that this site is being made out to be the enemy while sitting president and former aren't even being prosecuted
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>>81140384
>Epstein probably didn't have anything to do with this website and it's being character assassinated to destroy its image completely to the public. People used to laugh at green texts even normies, but now people immediately want you to get away from them if you even endorse 4chan memes.

>It's really funny how Epstein magically had ties to this website that kept calling him out and how bad he was. Really odd how that's come out yet the info about presidents current and former being on the island won't.

>As the saying goes, concessions accepted. You lost.

I'm reposting my post because it hurt you that badly. Just feels right to do.
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>>81140377
Knights of Guinevere has tons of background art like this.
And art like this isn’t normally made by the animators at all. The ones doing the awful post production effects in the first place.
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>>81140400
Wasn't it confirmed by the FBI that the anon that claimed to be one of epstein's prison guards was indeed one of the prison guards watching him, that old kike is alive and well somewhere out there
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>>81140415
That sounds like a disappointment.
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>>81140436
Kikes of Gookiverse art doesn't even look close to it. I won't consume your troon punk slop. Jesus fucking Christ get out of our thread already you faggot nobody here likes you
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>>81140452
Wasn't Kikes of Gookiverse a flop?
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>>81140391
It probably scares her because she can't hide from you. Heart sink moment.
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>>81140452
Stop crying over this. You didn’t make anime. And anime doesn’t define you.
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>>81140457
You’re just losing your mind
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>>81140456
It was and is.
>You didn't make anime. And it doesn't define you.
I do not even remotely know how that's relevant to the conversation. That's a lot of word salad.
>And
>Starting a sentence with and.
Rajeet log the fuck out
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>>81140457
Probably is lol, I have a pretty good set of eyes when people message.
>>81140465
Fun fact I'm not that posted. Another thing she'd do is get triggered and start thinking everyone is the same person. I don't see a denial either.
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>>81140377
Don't Worry Anon, anime hater will never enjoy the finer things in life like Jin-Roh or the original Spriggan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=931Cn6ynA3g
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>>81140456
>>81140457
>>81140466
Meant to link the other poster in my response but I forgot. Oops.
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>>81140490
No worries bro
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>>81140377
To be fair even Japan cannot make this anymore because most anime are now commercialized merch vehicles and the old great talents have retired. Japan just keeps churning its own talent through the grinder.
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>>81140490
Oh my fucking GOD I'M SO TIRED.
>>81140456
I fucking linked >>81140457 this random nigger when I meant to say >>81140458
>>81140466
With this post. FUCK STAYING UP this late again
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>>81140418
No one is making this site to be an enemy. They treat it as a weird lore bit to explain the strange direction this website took in the 2010s.

Epstein is involved with tons of communities that don’t want to associate with him at all. Including companies behind genetic research he massively donated to.
What else would he spend his time on if he’s too much of a fuck head on Xbox to get banned there? The other rich guys could at least post normally on Twitter and Facebook without showing their weirdness.

A part of the drama has Trump not wanting his name show up in the files. And the media already made several campaigns against him just for that before the files were released.
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>>81140491
All good I meant to have the rest of my post >>81140466
Aimed at this faggot >>81140458 but my eyes are barely open.
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>>81140497
Didn't fortnite have to make a statement after epstein's account starting being active
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>Europoors sperging about race and retarded arguments that do not matter again
Subhuman, glad their entire relevance is fading everyday
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>>81140497
>I lost the argument about anime so now I'm gonna talk about Epstein and derail the thread.
It's all so tiresome.
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>>81140513
Please spam Loona to drown out the off topic cancer.
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>>81140511
>Race bait about Europeans now
>MUH BAIT ABOUT ANIME ISN'T WORKING SWITCH GEARS QUICK QUICK
Do you niggers have a bait or drama quota you have to hit every day?
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>>81140510
Didn’t know that. I know he had an account by little jimmy, loved doing yuri and fnaf porn in 4chan.
>>81140511
By what?
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>>81140522
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>>81140530
I'm not the nigger you've been arguing with. Euro hours are consistently shit every single night. You people are subhuman
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This fucking thread is fucking cooked man.
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>>81140537
Euro hours are usually better than Burger hours.
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>>81140537
Yes anon I believe you and you don't type exactly the same as them.
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>>81140531
Truth was right about little Jimmy, baka
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>>81140545
>Euro hours
Practically expected at this point. Fucking embarrassing since these used to be the golden hours during season one.
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>>81140552
You know bro its sad that pro wrestling is in the state it's in now
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>>81140547
This has not been true for a solid month now, Pery
>>81140550
I'm not. Post more deer, faggot
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>>81140560
It is kind of hilarious though.
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>>81140562
Keno drop all the fucking pead you can run to drown this nigger out
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>>81140570
Didn't AEW have an ICE angle or was that just chants and Eddie Kingston's lard ass
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>>81140564
Yet you won't post any. Kind of telling isn't it?
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>>81140587
I'm posting deer right now, faggot
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>>81140560
We have some wrestlefags here in the thread, is nice

>>81140572
Keno drop all the fucking wrestling you can, I know you have it (because I have it too)

>>81140585
No, Brody King is just a whiny fag and Tony enables him to be open about it. The AEW fanbase eats it up because it's all tranny freaks and chanted fuck ICE
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>>81140594
Yeah after you got called out you faggot.
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>>81140585
I wouldn't put it past them. The Gunther thing wasn't actually an ICE angle, It was just hilarious to have the white man with the crew cut choke out a Hispanic with everything going on in Minnesota.
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>>81140607
kek
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>>81140597
i wanna do more crossover autism that you'd probably read fics of on like AO3 of helluva/hazbin and the attitude era but its hard clearing that "cringe" hurdle
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>>81140597
AEW's fanbase is tranny freaks and neckbeards (like holy fuck Bix is one of the ugliest mutants I have ever laid eyes upon) but unfortunately that's just the average wrestling mark nowadays
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>>81140606
I'm genuinely not the retard you were arguing with, I have no idea what's been happening but I'm tired of Euro hours being off topic garbage and arguing over retarded shit
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>>81140610
Never stop Keno. FEED me wrestle crossover.
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>general is just roonigger having a gay ops
>Oldfags shitting in here
>Baitniggers running constant bombing runs
>Niggers spamming off topic wwe man soap opera
>Deerniggers nigging
>Pead slop
>AI slop
Just ban this general already
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>>81140517
I didn’t lose the argument about anime.
Debates are not about winning or losing. They’re about points of different views. And I barely see any real benefits of anime at all because it’s generic over simplified slop that has its notable moments by technique and hype action moments instead of the actual material featured in it being taken more seriously and treasured than that. Because when it is, it completely warps our shit away from getting benefits of emulating the techniques they’ve had to completely sloplify the very look of our own shit to lack any real identity whatsoever.

hype moments and aura is a meme because it’s what we’ve known anime for at the very core of it.
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>>81140610
This, the BlitzMox tag team, and your NWO Moxxie are some of my all time favorites. I also really enjoyed your 2k stuff both the game vids and the screen edits
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>>81140597
Dude we used to have tons, like when Hogan died the entire thread mourned his death
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>>81140621
>Deerniggers nigging
There is nothing wrong with deerposting
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>>81140617
I wasn't even arguing with them I just jumped in randomly. I didn't appreciate my continent and race being told it needs to go extinct because you can't post gay demon porn. Hang yourself for that comment. Anyways what do you like about the deer?
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>>81140537
Fucking liar. Euro hours are consistently dead every single day and there's like hundreds of posts about thread celeb drama when I'm sleeping.
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>>81140628
I remember that, I was there, it was a really nice night watching all the old stuff
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>>81140621
deerniggers? what about the voxcels
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>>81140623
>t.
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>>81140623
>Still going
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>>81140628
The one voxtard crashed the fuck out because we mourned him. Shit was funny
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>>81140639
I am grateful for Drake Hernandez's autistic ass drawing all his waifus in wrestle gear including Hazbin ones
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>>81140643
>>81140650
Why act this way about anime in the first place?
You’ll eventually be burned out on it as I’ve did.
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>>81140634
>I wasn't even arguing with them I just jumped in randomly
As did I. I got frustrated because the last few nights here have been miserable. I apologize for taking it out on your continent. Could very well be late burgers shitposting.
>Anyways what do you like about the deer?
Extremely cute and cunty and never does anything wrong except bully Vox, but even then it's endearing. Are you an RSsis or RSbro?
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>>81140636
I like the euro hours up until recently, it had a lot less bait than burger hours and I managed to have actual interactions with people

>>81140662
I archived that dude awhile ago and I can't help but commend him, that dude is a powerhouse of autism with how much he manages to put out
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>>81140663
>Burned out
I burn out but still love something and don't go out of my way to say anime is slop since it began.
>>81140662
Lute brutalizing Shitigal Circumference.
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>>81140669
RSbro. I love all ships with alastor even Radioapple. I just love seeing Alastor get loved regardless. He needs it, no matter who. Just so long as he's happy and loved.
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>>81140675
It's not the euros because euro prime time is fucking dead every day.
What's actually happening is that it's currently Asia prime time. It's the SEA shitposting.
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>>81140675
Isn't he still going on to this day
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>>81140669
Not all burgers are bad. hhg just has consistent gay ops bombing runs done on it around the clock by all sorts of anons.
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>>81140676
It was slop since it began. The Asians are just kinda insane that way and how they treat each other. And one day it will be the reality you are trapped in by realizing how empty they all are.
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>>81140694
That and the nature of what kind of fandom this is
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>>81140692
>Lilith bro just ejaculated across the Netherlands. Many fatalities were reported in the Amsterdam region. Please be advised there is a cum tsunami on its way.
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>>81140669
Oh, I also admire his determination and willingness to put himself through demeaning shit if it means coming out on top in the end. That and his gap moe of being a super strong fearful sinner who also does silly things like make dad jokes and walk around with cute expressive ears.
>>81140682
Oh shit, a rare RSbro. But also same, I love deer being loved by everyone. I tend to favor RS because Vox is as obsessed with him as I am.
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>>81140692
I could believe it, I'm sure I've got a similar tism with archiving and I can tell you that shit doesn't go away over night

>>81140689
Never thought of that, though now that I think about it, things did get shitty around the 5am-7am area but I just assumed it was early burgers
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>>81140701
Lilithbro is a mark? anyway you know what would be kinda lame but also funny? if it turned out despite fandom headcanon, it turned out Lilith was actually a kind, sweet woman and Eve was the bitchy one (to match with her husband)
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>>81140689
>It's the SEA shitposting
I remember way back in the day moot decrying the Australia posters as being the absolute worst/most shitposty. Not sure if that's still true.
>>81140694
I've been liking burger hours lately. It's not fair of me to blame whole continents for thread quality, apologies for lashing out
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>>81140715
>Lilithbro is a mark
I have no idea what that means please explain.
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>>81140703
I am rare but am happy! Good to have fun talking. You got angry sis, it's alright it happens.
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>>81140720
Means Pro Wrestling fan in this context, you know how con artists call their targets, marks?
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>>81140735
Idk if he's a mark or not. But he'd be blowing buckets out to that Lilith
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>>81140731
I could imagine Mark Hamil's voice coming out of pilot era Vox
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>>81140730
Rest assured the angers stems entirely from wanting to post about beloved deer but having to endure off topic fighting in the process. It can be painful to not have an avenue to let out my love for Alastor after a hard day of being stuck at work. Thank you for understanding and for also loving deer
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>>81140757
Don't you have /deer/?
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>>81140743
As a Lilith enjoyer myself I sure did but surely there's more art out there of her in a bikini or two piece
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>>81140731
Pilot Vox is CUTE!!
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>>81140757
If I could give you big back pats I would. You just need comfort and some deer for your day. Also TV I hear is good for you!
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>>81140759
Yes, but sadly no ship/homoposting or nsfw allowed. I'm happy to share solo art there though
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>>81140753
I remember joking with my friends for years that Viv was going to have God be voiced by Seth MacFarlane, since he absolutely does have the singing chops and it seems like something he would do
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>>81140620
>>81140624
i also got into wrestling only like 4 years ago so i dont really have as much gun ho enthusiasm lol (esp since current wwe kinda sucks)
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>>81140775
Wait, he's kind of cute...
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>>81140779
You can easily watch previous eras (IMO Ruthless Agression was the last time it was good despite Triple Bypass's reign of terror and declining ratings)
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>>81140765
You're too kind ;_;
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>>81140779
That's totally fair, you should check out some of the old vault stuff on Netflix or the youtube channel since they started uploading old stuff up there. I used to have us watch old stuff on the Cytube when we were still using that. Oh I also wanted to ask if you're getting 2K26? I'm really hesitant to buy the 2k games because I don't want to be a whale who buys every game but I'm really liking this years roster
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>>81140779
>>81140785
I know nothing about wrestling, why does it seem to be a universal consensus that it's bad now?
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>chubby Lucifer is basically Mimzy
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>>81140798
The thought of WWE turning New Jack into a comedy act in some other timeline still gives me the keks
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>>81140794
I try to be but anons bring the worst out in me.
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>>81140804
That question is a really, really deep rabbit hole in general. You wind up with the line between actual answers and opinions on how business and entertainment should be run blurring
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>>81140824
We can all relate, sadly. Glad the thread has calmed down though.
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>>81140842
Artist?
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>mfw the most I know about wrastling is from playing WWF games on the Nintendo 64
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>>81140771
So greedy. Meanwhile no one wants to talk abou Charlie with me, here or anywhere else.
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>>81140728
>>81140729
>>81140733
ranksauce would be kino if they stopped drawing that godawful mustache
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>>81140798
>Oh I also wanted to ask if you're getting 2K26?
yes i am, i plan to remake a lot of my hellaverse caws and such on top of modding
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>>81140898
We can talk about Char Char!
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>>81140891
https://x.com/LobsterRik/status/1637143647920574469

>>81140902
I miss the old Ranksauce

>>81140907
That sounds awesome, I should get some of the other marks to get the game and we can play some online together
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>>81140908
God, I miss pilot Charlie. Why did they make her so jagged?
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>>81140804
The easiest answer is bad writing for storylines, and not unitilizing talent to their fullest, especially when the crowd wants something. Ignoring what the fans want is a bad decision if you have good writers, because maybe things will be paid off in the end, ignoring fans with bad writers is kill the company bad (See AEW for how to ignore what the fans want).
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>>81140940
>unitilizing
I need sleep.
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>>81140940
You have to also remember the too many cooks problem. When you have a hundred writers and producers working on one story it gets really messy
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>cute
>not full blown retarded
>appealing color cohesion
>rounder and softer
>curvier
>kind
>actually felt like an MC
I miss her...
>>81140923
I'll never understand why they made her so red, what was the logic here?
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>>81140940
>>81140952
>>81140957
The little I've heard about major storylines is them fucking up The Rock and John Cena's lore, which sounds pretty egregious since they're such big names. Who is even responsible for planning the story beats?
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>>81140980
The too many cooks also includes the wrestlers forcing things to happen, you wind up with 50 writers and wrestlers with egos that make up 50 people going nose to nose and it's a whole fucking mess. Half of what makes wrestling so interesting to hardcore fans is hearing about all the backstage bullshit
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I appreciate anime being one of the few avenues that prioritizes 2D over CGI slop, is that controversial?
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>pic
I wish these two would interact.
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>>81140908
I think Charlie is sad and lonely as fuck and I'm sad that most people aren't willing to give her any sympathy because she's a 'stupid girl'. I really hope her plot arc will be that she breaks free from both her parents and builds her own faction. Neither Lucifer and Lillith set her up for success.
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>>81140923
>>81140965
I prefer show Charlie by a long shot and don't get the pilot design glazing. Pilot Charlie is just a generic cartoon girl.
Show Charlie is a little monster girl.
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>>81140940
You also have to factor in how bland wrestlers have gotten (probs because they're trained by the same people) who have no character or gimmick to speak of
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>>81140997
I just hope the narrative doesn't put all the blame on Lilith for her issues
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Alastor is like Haruko from FLCL
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>>81141038
It still gets me hwo can she be raised by Lilith primarily and worship her yet turn out a xerox copy of Lucifer
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How long were Lilith and Lucifer together?
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Who the FUCK is this guy???
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>>81141071
Seriously WH, help me, who the fuck is this guy?
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>>81141078
Cherri's (persumably) ex Viv either forgot or decided to do nothing with (so far), iirc his name is Izzi or something and art of him is hyper rare, I doubt even in my almost 2m image archive that there are more than 10-20 pieces of him. He's kind of a ghost that nobody ever brings up as he made little to no appearance outside of Addict. I actually don't have more information because literally nobody ever talked about him or stan'd him, dude is actually a ghost in the fandom
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>>81141007
Also her demeanor is more interesting in the show. No one minds pilot Charlie because she is simply completely inoffensively a sad introverted girl. Show Charlie is the same sad girl except she's faking till she's making it with a boisterous personality. Pilot Charlie's introductory song is Chasing Rainbows and show Charlie's introductory song is Happy Day in Hell, the latter has a much better tone and impact.
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>>81140997
I think you’re right. The people she considers her friends are mostly people who dismiss her and don’t take her seriously. I’m interested to see the real reason behind the Morningstar family drama. Lucifer and Lilith really screwed her over, it would be great to see Charlie getting some good development on her own.
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>>81141084
Wasn't there a supposed script leak posted here with him in it
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>>81141050
I need to rewatch the pilot because I could've sworn Lucifer was the distant parent at the time while Lilith was the one Charlie was able to keep in touch with.

Why does Charlie even have an issue with Lucifer in the first season? He's so woobified that he seems without flaw and is just a silly well meaning guy. There's no reason Charlie should even have "daddy issues" besides him saying her hotel idea, which has only been a passion project of hers for 7 years, is a bad idea.
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>>81141085
Chasing rainbows is kino and shant be convinced otherwise anyway one finds her womanchild antics to be annoying at times especially as she fails upwards due to plot (the same can be said for blue charlie who is equally if not more annoying than her)
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>>81141096
And you'd be correct, the show mumbles something about her never being close to charlie and their little musical number said something about never knowing him
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>>81141091
I think so, and I probably have it somewhere, but with how little there is of him, the memory of him as an entity gets fuzzy with time. The one thing that stands out in my brain is just that he has next to no standing in the fandom, even Baxter, Crymini, Roo, etc during the pilot era had simp accounts making art for them, but this guy had basically nothing. I genuinely can't remember the last time I saw art of him in my archive (Though ngl I like him and wish he had a Nadairead level artist drawing him)
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>>81141084
This is such a funny answer, he's such a non-character that the resident archivist can only shrug. Appreciate the answer though, I just rewatched "Addict" recently and was puzzled when I saw the guy again.
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>>81141096
Viv's fervent need to woobify her favorite baby boys to the detriment of the plot and surrounding characters needs to be studied. It's a terminal illness at this point
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>>81141091
>>81141107
Wasn't he originally from Zoophobia or some shit?
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>>81141098
I'm not saying that Chasing Rainbows is bad. I'm just saying that the introduction to your MC being a 'Woe is me' song rather than a 'I can do it it's a happy FUCKING day in HELL!' makes your MC less exciting.
>as she fails upwards
This is exactly what Charlie thinks of herself and why I think she's interesting. She's constantly second guessing herself and her first reaction to winning an unwinnable last stand in S1 was that she fucked up and is a failure because of minor casualties.
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>>81141124
It makes me a shitty archivist but I go out of my way to ignore ZP because it doesn't interest me that much so I wouldn't know

>>81141113
I'll throw out my sleep deprived crackpot theories. Izzi is probably either 1. Someone else's character (or meant to represent someone else) that Viv had a falling out with post addict, 2. Viv bit on CherriSnake after the pilot and ditched him due to bloat or general lack of care
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>>81141124
Seems you're right, he was in ZP and was a poacher, but that seems to be genuinely the only information given
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my hot take is that Alastor was always doomed to be a disappointment in a full series because he worked best as a wacky mysterious character only there for one episode. Any extrapolation would ruin the mystique, and had he stayed the way he is in the pilot, his shtick would've gotten old fast. Pilot Alastor > Amazon Alastor, but pivoting to the personality we got in the end was a pragmatic decision
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>>81141143
I still think he's gonna show up as cherry's evil ex, also speaking of the lard herself you reckon she and the rest of the crew are a bunch of money marks (this applies more to miss piggy) and self marks respectively?
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>>81141157
I've written big ass posts about this before but you're right, I don't understand why everybody needs everything, not every character needs a backstory. The less you know about Alastor, the better he is as a character because YOU get to fill in the gaps with something better. Also, as a side rant that will make everyone hate me, not everyone needs a lengthy backstory. Stella doesn't need a backstory, Millie doesn't need a backstory, Striker doesn't need a backstory, Vassago doesn't need a backstory. If this fandom got what they wanted, 45% of the overall show would just be flashback backstories bloating the show. We already have too many backstories
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>>81141173
What's a mark?
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>>81141173
I honestly think Izzi is just gonna disappear. I think Cherri's arc is going to be deciding whether or not she wants to be redeemed. It'll be really interesting to see if Viv actually does the "Party girl settles down and gets sober to be with her BF" angle but I have strong doubts.

Viv literally sold out all of her friends and ideals to buddy up with her theatre heroes, you genuinely cannot be more of a mark than that. She folded at almost every hint of pressure and surrounded herself by folk who made her change dozens of facets of herself and her show. If you paid enough attention the last few years, you would see her building a social circle of sub-marks feeding her ego while also pressuring her to become more of a liberal extremist, people like Danidraws and other talking heads. I was there and unfortunately studied this shit. I could go on for a whole hour
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>>81141209
Sadly I don't think you can get away with your most popular character with the most mystery surrounding him going several seasons without delving into what his deal is or the fandom would most definitely get sick of his shit. Pilot Al works for a standalone light series like what the pilot was, but not for the angsty melodramatic series that the show is
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>>81141209
Viv has talked about spinoffs, and possibly a comic filling out things she wanted to be in Hazbin but didn’t have time for. These would be better for a lot of the backstory stuff that isn’t relevant to the greater plot. Surely she can feed characterfags through that, without compromising the story just for the sake of fanservice.
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>>81141246
>I could go on for a whole hour
And you shall, she even does the money mark promoter (see eric bischoff, dixie carter and now tony khan) thing of using the show as an excuse to hang out with broadway actors
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>>81141250
I don't really agree, I think you could get away with him being comedy for one, introduce sinister elements regarding Husk/Nifty for 2 that slide under the nose of Charlie and co, have 3 be him using the hotel to help Angel out of his contract with Val (free crew to help beat the vees ez), have 4 be him playing his hand as the final villain ripping Husk/Nifty away from the hotel immediately afterwards, possibly right after Angel's redemption or during Husk's attempts at redemption. I don't think we need gay existential world ruining bad guys, the big bad at the end can be Alastor using the hotel for his gain and enjoying ripping Husk away from redemption right as he finds love and the will to be redeemed thus making true on his desire to see people try and fall
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>>81141290
But then again, this is an old pilot HC with HuskerDust as the main focus
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>>81141246
Seeing her shut herself into an even tighter echo chamber on bluesky has been distressing. She's reached a point where she thinks pairing Alastor off with someone, let alone a man, is a good idea that everyone would be on board with.
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>>81141275
I mean...
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>>81141308
You have no idea how long this echo chambering thing has been going on, these people I reference like Dani are in Viv's circle and have an influence on her show. A great deal of the staff is fans of the show, and many of the vocal folk have her ear. The shitty people pushing politics and bullying people out of the fandom have her ear and I know this for a fact. I was there when she was liking all of these peoples posts and adding shit from these likes to the show. DaniDraws was the one pushing for Stolitz NTR and Viv liked it, then lo and behold we got it. That's just one of many instances and that's twitter artists. You think people like Brandon, Amir, Morgana, Smiles, aren't actively pushing her further and further left wing? She's cooked and is letting others control her show just to add more gay shit and wokeisms. Why did Blitz need to wear a trump hat, why does Vox need to be named Whiteman, why does Velvette need to be lesbian because a friend of Viv wanted it, why do Martha and Ms. Mayberry need to be lesbian because a friend of Viv wanted it. The NG Viv died and fucked over her friends beforehand
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>she thinks pairing Alastor off with someone, let alone a man
Splendid.
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Man this is cool art, I hope DaniDraws didn't bully the artist out of the fandom
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>>81141374
It's a shame, I really liked their Strella fankid
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>>81141365
True deerfags recognize this is a terrible idea. But you're a Lucinigger so of course you think it's great
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>>81141365
I don't really understand you at all, you seem to prefer he bottom to you yet he will most assuredly be portrayed as a stone top to Lucifer's kawaii uke.
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>>81141374
>I hope DaniDraws didn't bully the artist out of the fandom
What's the story there?
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>>81141469
actually disregard that, I'm tired of shipniggery
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>>81141441
Something about them being 16/17 making art for the fandom, Dani had a massive bitch that they were underage and sent all of her rabid fans to attack them. Dani is a classic case of bitching all the time and perpetuating the iconic Hazbin armydom where "fans" relentlessly attack anyone who goes against the grain in any way, shape, or form. The artist got routinely harassed and bullied into leaving and Dani showed no remorse because she is an unfeeling lazy fat lesbian tranny weed addict activist who chooses not to work, bitches about not having money, and rugpulled everyone once she got popular by moving all of her shit to patreon. I unironically think Dani is responsible for atleast 30% of the problems Viv has and is in the top 5 for worst people in the fandoms history
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>>81141441
Here is a tumblr (blegh) link explaining it all in better detail

https://www.tumblr.com/uninformedartist/735625174138912768/strength-to-bee-from-all-dani-draws-the-fandoms
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>>81141480
Jesus, and here I thought she was just some annoying big voice in the fandom. I tend to not pay attention to Viv ass kissers so I've deliberately ignored anything to come from Dani. Had no idea she was even worse than that.
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>Go to check her bsky
>Bitching about tranny baxter
>Bitching about white people
>Bitching about trump
>Bitching about being afraid of Husk being white
This is in 1 day, I hate this bitch so much
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>>81141374
>>81141398
Context?
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>>81141518
All the big talking head accounts just get away with open racism sexism, bullying on main and are still butt buddies with Viv

>>81141534
See
>>81141499
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I like shipping Adam and Charlie together because I like the himbo x bimbo aesthetic.
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>>81141499
>these shitty people are going to be pandered to by Viv and get everything they want in the end
At this point I'm not sure if I should let my interest in the series wane naturally or just brute force myself out of it like an intervention.
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>>81141509
Worked myself into a shoot over this, now I'm pissed. And these T-shirts are too tight, Dani!

>>81141560
I would give up my entire left hand for the ability to not be interested in this show anymore, if you can, get out
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>>81141422
He's pretty
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>>81141089
Does she literally have any friends besides Vaggie? What the fuck did she do before she met Vaggie. If she lived all her life under her Mom's wing, then spent the next 4 years floundering completely alone, no wonder she's so desperate.
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>if you can, get out
I had lost interest in the show in the timespan from season 1 to 2 (was a pilotfag prior who was only here for deer), but I mostly held on because I was keen on how things would play out between Alastor and Vox. Now that I got pretty much everything I wanted, I'm fine with losing interest again. It's going to take much longer though since there's so much nice fan content coming out that keeps me locked in.
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>>81141715
If you can find a healthy middle ground where you can enjoy a piece of art here and there, do that. Just don't get too into it or follow too many accounts, or you risk getting sucked back into the vortex. Since I started trying to escape, I made an alt where I just follow eastern accounts and my life is a lot better for it, unironically not being able to read any of the text posts made the fandom way more bearable
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Bdsm with fizz where i remove his prosthetics, blindfold and gag him and wear him on a harness across my chest, my cock buried inside him as I go about my business.
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My husband
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big boobs or small boobs?
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>>81140354
Yeah, her too.
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Good morning, /hhg/
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>>81141007
>>81141085
You're a faggot samefagging and love a shitty parody of the actual Charlie.
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>>81142765
Morning.
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Loona
Millie
Moxxie
Loona
Blitz
Loona
Loona
Loona
Stolas
Loona
Beelzebub
Beelzebub
Loona and Beelzebub
Loona
Loona
Loona
Loona
Loona
Beelzebub

And that's the order I would fuck the Helluva Boss characters in
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>>81142153
Lute...
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>>81142902
>samefagging
I'm simply expanding upon my own post. I'm sure if you have such a strong opinion you can explain it with words instead of ad hominems?
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>>81142127
This is how Ozzie does most of his business actually.
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>>81143843
Ah okay so you were samefagging got it. You're probably the same anime hating nigger faggot from last night. Kill yourself faggot
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>>81143843
>Admits to samefagging
Damn nigga, btw show Charlie is shit. Stop glazing viv
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>>81143963
Abel abuse!
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It's working
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Angels.
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and i didnt have to do anything lmao
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>>81144732
Angels are nice
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>>81144139
>>81144167
Which schizo is this that thinks I must be the boogieman for making two posts on my own topic?
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>>81144830
Vague posting
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I miss him...
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>>81145174
Cute frog
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>>81145001
>If I pretend I don't know what they're on about they won't know
>Types exactly the same
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UNDER THE DARKNESS
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>>81145621
The cutest!
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>>81144830
Take a long walk off a short pier roonigger



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