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did a hopefully final update to this character

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i heart shark men

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I'll repost this answer to the guy asking for fur suggestions last thread since it died in the morning

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>>81857676
a cat is fine too

>>81858775
Zamn

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Hand study
I do not like these

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Someone commissioned me to do BG paint for a VN. I believe I will most likely be getting more work from them in the future. Guess I am back in my BG Era

>>81861218
Congrats, man. What sort of VN is it?

>>81861218
Pretty good anon

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>>81861672
Don't know MUCH about it myself. I was recommended to the person who manages the project by a friend. I know of the artist (Reinbach) and respect his work's quality, but I've never played any of his VNs. All I know is that they're porn and connected to his porn comic.

I was given this character stand-in for reference and both the artist and the manager were pretty chill about me streaming the process so that's also pretty cool.

>>81861673
Thank you

>>81861848
Honestly judging by that character it looks like a perma-in-development patreon porn slideshow #3765 but your work looks really good.

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>>81862069
It most likely IS a fairly basic VN, but I doubt it's Perma-indev. I only say that because I believe this is their second VN and it's being squeezed in-between a third, so I can at least say that they released something.

Again I've never played it and it's most likely extremely barebones, but Rein DOES have a strong audience so they're probably mainly there for his stories and just love the interactivity. I'm SURPRISED It's not a DarkCookie/SummerTimeSaga situation.

>>81861848
>>81862069
>>81862168
Interesting. Never looked into the more normie side of porn games much, so the artist and project are complete unknowns to me. Nice to see someone so driven to create a pornographic multimedia franchise out of nothing but hard work in these dire times of ever-increasing censorship, though. Downright inspiring to see such a valiant struggle against fate, here's hoping it pays off.

>>81862592
I assume it does! His patreon is strong and his content is long running. He may be less directly popular than me, but his fanbase is so tight knit and hungry for his content that it makes realize that "Big Number" is just the first part, actually making content for people to give a fuck about is the thing that gets you money.

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>>81843649
Another glaceon butt. She's sitting on her fat ass. Wish she'd sit on me.
I'm getting used to doing linework after a rough sketch. Honestly surprised how much it helps with recreating the pose as close to the reference as possible

>>81862712
I like your progress

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Drawn so little I got rusty over the course of a few days. Let's start with something bad

>>81863033
Thanks, but I still don't see any progress

I wish you wish I was dead

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WIP. Yoshis are surprisingly difficult to get right. I don't know how far off I am, but I wanted to do something for Yoshibro for being such a good influence and also drawing Charlie and giving me Pepper's name.
I'm perpetually lazy but hopefully one day I'll find the time to finish this, at least with flat colors.

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been feeling very uninspired to move past this stage on stuff lately. but at least im getting something done

I WANT!... to stop chicken scratching, any suggestions?

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>>81865800
Line confidence exercises are the go-to solution. The rest is a matter of mileage; the more lines you draw, the more confident you are with them.
Alternatively, try a brush with pressure-sensitive opacity and draw multiple lines while applying low pressure to the stylus and you'll get a nice sketchy result that tricks the eye into selecting the ones it thinks look best out of the jumble.

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Made this thing. Only took me 5 hours which is an improvement.

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polite idiot

>>81857676
sex with cats (feral)

>>81870708
Got a thing for wild pussy, do you?

>>81870708
I want to fuck cats (OP)

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>>81870708
This! How to draw feral cats?

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>>81872961

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Draw these boobies.

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>>81858775
who this?! I like your style and furry 10/10 make more.

>>81863048
this is the way!

>>81864418
*gulp* (I think that's wha the sound is?)

>>81865800
you can try to do one of those contour only drawings (obviously not meant to look good in the end), you just never lift your pen and go in one long line (and no erasing then ofc)

then you can try to only use one line per line + no erasing? accept it being off

last effort is to use your chicken scratch as a rough pass, and then go over it on a new layer but only use one line + smoothing? it should yield results... but I don't know if this is the best way to practice, since lineart and sketching feel like fairly different parts of the brain.

>>81874204
bobs and vagene? (but without the vagene?)

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let's draw some strong female protagonists with big swords

>>81876261
Where sword?

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>>81876411
in that particular scene she threw her big sword away for a brief moment.

>>81876966
Is she form a show?

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1 minutes gestures

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>>81876261
>>81876966
Ah, a fellow Claymore fan, nice.

>>81877072
Aye, a dark fantasy manga series with an anime adaptation that was made in 2007. It's a pretty good one, quite faithful to the source material up until they got to the point where the source material at the time ended and they had to make something up themselves, which led to a pretty meh ending for the anime. Still, well worth a watch.

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>>81877314
another enjoyer! rejoice!

>>81877072
It's like the female version of Berserk! :joy: (not really, but kinda)

Rewatched a couple eps just now for the nostalgia, I remember i liked the mood in the series. and the show wasn't just a fever dream i had as a student all those years ago.

>>81877314
>>81877900
Ohhhh claymore....
People always wanted me to watch this since I'm a mega fan of berserk. I never understood the appeal from being clips

>>81878302
Depends on what makes you a fan of Berserk. There's some clear inspirations taken from Berserk, but it's no rip-off and stands on its own merits. The stakes are less cosmic and it isn't quite as brutal, but it does explore some themes differently which might make for an interesting and refreshing viewing experience.

>>81877095
these are really good btw! and quite a number of them too! for 1 minute this is like 35 minutes of focused work! impressive & keep it up!

>>81878536
Its though to explain but just in case, do you know that one particular panel in the conviction arc where mozgus appears beats a guy to a the death with the bible and lady farnese blushes. That's what I feel when I watch guts cutting monsters into pieces because of this raw and almost casual display of violence. It's really weird to describe...
But of course the other part why I like berserk so much is how it resonated with me on a personal level about with guts just doing things because he did like this all the time him eventually asking himself what he actually what's to do as he drifts aimlessly through life.

Does claymore have anything like that?

>>81878940
Well, the main character, Clare, does get to do her fair share of monster killing, but she's the cold and calculating sort as opposed to Gut's psychotic rage. Both characters do wrestle with holding the demon inside at bay, though, they just approach the problem from opposite ends. Hope that's a helpful descriptor.
Clare's a bit of an aimless drifter as well, at least at the start, and also motivated by a seemingly unachievable goal of personal revenge that isn't expanded on until later. The world she operates in is not quite as apocalyptic as berserk's, though, and she's bound to a secretive organization that operates behind the scenes as opposed to Gut's more metaphysical fetters but earthly freedom to attempt to escape fate. Similar basic premises, slightly but crucially different executions.

>>81878749
Thanks, though I took a break in-between two sets

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>>81869100
I regret to inform you that stretching an arm like that would, in most cases, leave breasts unaffected due to just how high that arm is raised.
>>81872961
Something like that I guess
>>81875317
Well thanks! ARC anyway, I'm here sporadically, when I post more elaborate things, it's usually for final-pass fresh-eye checks. https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/81681804/#q81829259
This is my MS Paint art style. I use it for doodling and to illustrate feedback.

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>>81862712
Another Glaceon butt.
I really wanted to draw and properly construct her body without just copying a reference, but I just couldn’t do it. I got so frustrated that I ended up drawing this butt instead.
I’m not happy that I couldn’t pull it off. There are still so many things I’m lacking and I wish I knew exactly what the hell I’m missing so I could focus on it. Maybe tomorrow I’ll study each part of her body so I can finally draw her without copying someone else’s work?
Gaaaah, I’m so fucking pissed. I feel like an idiot.

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I haven't drawn any super horny yoshis in awhile and I had to fix that.
>>81864418
Aw, you didn't have to do that but THIS IS A WONDERFUL SURPRISE AND I FUCKING LOVE IT! THANK YOU! Inspiring someone to draw a yoshi makes me happy enough but getting art of my crack pairing sends me through the damn roof! They look super cute in your style but I really adore Yoyo's little tail wag and ball-draining gaze not to mention your lucario's always look very handsome, too. Also trust me despite drawing tons of yoshis they're still a pain for me to draw.
>>81865713
I get like that sometimes where I seemingly can't advance past stages I usually have an easy time overcoming. That or I get stuck in scribble mode and can't remember how to do draw anything 'concrete' to save my life which sucks. Like you said though at least you're DOING and that always matters I say. I like the foreshortening on the grabby arm here, btw.
>>81865800
One thing that doesn't get mentioned enough is that if you use a digital tablet(screenless in my case) the texture of the drawing surface makes a HUGE difference in your ability to confidently make lines. I went from an off-brand tablet to one with a really grippy surface and it was unreal how easy it was for me to actually draw semi-straight lines and circles when I normally struggled SO HARD with it. Though I've worn that spot down and now have a slippy void in the middle and notice the difference right away which irritates me.
>>81869100
A 13 foot rabbit that can snap me in half like a twig? Oh yes please! I love her intense expression and there's a lot of implied detail with the hatching you used that I really enjoy the look of.
>>81881242
I've endured those same frustrations in my lewd yoshi pursuits and trust me when I say that you WILL get through it eventually. Breaking them down to their individual parts is a good idea on your part and will do a lot to help you through this. Don't give up on your glaceon butts!

>>81881242
You're doing good
Study what other artist do
(You don't want to look up dog asses yourself)

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anndddd DONE. I wish I could do these faster CSP says 8 Hours.

>>81881832
Cute Yoshi! You really nailed the horny look! But that pussy is a lil tooo big for my taste lmao
>I've endured those same frustrations in my lewd yoshi pursuits
I bet it’s normal, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s frustrating lol
> trust me when I say that you WILL get through it eventually
If I keep going, yeah, I bet. But I’m kinda tired of drawing her
>Don't give up on your glaceon butts!
I won't. At this point it's a habit, but after day 30, I'm done with her lol.
I didn't really take this challenge seriously, but the more I get into it, the more I want to learn how to actually draw this fucking pokemon. From every angle, in some basic poses, idk, I just don't want to feel like I wasted my time on this challenge. Maybe it's delusional for me to expect that kind of improvement in just 30 days, but maaaan, I've been drawing on and off for like 3 years and I still feel like a permabeg
Thanks for the encouragement!
>>81881838
>Study what other artist do
What do you mean?
>(You don't want to look up dog asses yourself)
Haha...

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wanted to try playing around with pixel drawing. dled an image to try to match its pixel size. but my strokes arent restricting to it. i checked tutorials but they all just say make sure show grid is on which it is. i also cant get a pencil size to fit within a square.

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>>81882285
>What do you mean?
NTA, but look at how other artists construct things and then try to deconstruct whatever you're trying to draw in similar ways and then reconstruct it in new poses. Geometric shapes and contour lines of the forms will help you to begin thinking in 3D, which will give your work the illusion of volume.

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>>81882714
Looks like the image has been resized up by a factor of 4. This is a common trick with small pixel art images so that the image is actually reasonably visible on modern monitors. Try reducing the image size to 25% of the original scale (make sure scaling method is Hard edges (nearest neighbor) so it remains pixel perfect) and once you're done editing, scale it back up by 400% (same scaling method).

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>>81864418
Also while I'm at it here's another FLUFFY Charlie I did last night when playing around with that brush. I guess you could call it an inadvertant 'study' of sorts? She's quite a joy draw along with Pepper which is nice because I haven't drawn rats in like...forever.
>>81881904
This was pretty ambitious but it turned out very good and it being the result of a randomly selected pairing makes it even better. 8 hours seems long but I feel that you'll gain speed if you continue to do these. I will say though eelektross and serpent-shaped things are just a pain in general to work with as its hard to position a tubey, slinky thing in a way that looks fitting I think, especially for sexy time. Great work, anon!
>>81882285
>Cute Yoshi! You really nailed the horny look! But that pussy is a lil tooo big for my taste lmao
Thanks anon, that makes me happy! Also yeah I tend to go a bit overboard but big, puffy and FUCKING NEEDY is my vice and clouds my judgement. Still trying to find that happy medium. And it's not delusional to think that as you're being consistent so far and consistency is crucial imo. For what it's worth I'm always happy to offer encouragement when I can!

>>81882906
I want to squish that fluff SO BAD.

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>>81882906
>serpent-shaped things are just a pain in general to work with as its hard to position a tubey, slinky thing in a way that looks fitting I think, especially for sexy time.
Not necessarily, once you figure out tubes can be constructed with just a bunch of circles connected by two lines. Then you just gotta know the general contours and shapes of the terrain and it should be smooth crawling from there.

>>81883110
When I was making the eel I used a method similar to this but with more circles drawn along the path rapidly.

>>81883109
You disgust me.

>>81883355
It's the only way I know how!

>looking forward to drawing all day
>it's an off day
fucking kill me

>>81884097
I feel you. Been like that for months myself. I find myself just attempting, and attempting, and attempting...

Everything looks like shit. I can't even draw full bodies anymore.

>>81882906
She IS a lightweight, you know her so well. I definitely didn't characterize her as well as Pepper, but I do have some traits and lore in my head. Maybe one day I'll do something with them.
She's a bit of an airhead and really likes Starbucks.

Thank you for the doodle and I'm glad you liked mine. <3

doodle slop
https://files.catbox.moe/ys7pwa.png
https://files.catbox.moe/s54okt.png

>>81882906
Built

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Studies

Draw a cat. NOW!

fap fap fap

DRAW! DRAW YOU LAZY ASS

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How’s this one coming along does it seem pervy?

>>81889643
IM NOT DRUNK ENOUGH

>>81890167
Not pervy
Seems cute

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posted from my ipad

>>81891577
No fat ass?

>>81891441
Oh good. I draw a lot of straight shota and I worry that my fetishy side comes through in stuff that shouldn’t be.

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>>81883110

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>>81891577

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arc uses aliased brush too?

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Started studying the head a few days ago. First time practising on digital and tracing. 1/2

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>>81893962
2/2

>>81893962
>>81893974
You're making a bunch of little mistakes in these, some lines miss underlying structure. Maybe study the skull in between these?

>>81894054
>Maybe study the skull in between these?
I'll try that. I'm following the Loomis book on Heads and Hands. I haven't gotten to far into it but I get the basic idea of what he's trying to teach, but I'm not really fucking with the method. I think I work better at constructing stuff if it has landmarks or depth.

>>81893476
nice! I approve

>>81893513
I think this is a freaky scream-face with horns?

>>81892771
I can't believe i forgot yoshi's shell, that was strange...

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I haven't practiced muscles in a while! lesgooo

I dump my crap here

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I'd like to hear what you think of this piece of lineart and what I can change about it.

I'm drawing...

>>81898662
proof?

>>81898746
I post cookie soon

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>>81897293
The lines are all quite thin and uniform in width. I'm guessing you're using vector lines? Many programs have ways to manipulate line width between control points, see if you can vary it a bit for more interesting-looking linework.

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I'm really phoning it in today

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>>81881242
Another glaceon. This time I did leg studies. I still can’t draw them very well, but I enjoy it. The shape of her legs is really interesting and I want to get the hang of it
>>81882906
I love this kind of fluff! You have good taste!
>Also yeah I tend to go a bit overboard but big, puffy and FUCKING NEEDY is my vice and clouds my judgement
To be fair, a big fluff is great! So keep it up!
>I'm always happy to offer encouragement when I can!
I appreciate it, but I’m not really looking for encouragement. I’d rather get some advice or critique. I’m doing this challenge to improve after all.
>>81882718
Whoa, that’s a lot of knowledge!

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>>81891577
I doodled this cat a year ago and never posted it

>>81900496
I toss her the spare table scraps I have in hopes she gains weight. So Pretty.

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Finally got around to writing down the textual portion of the second part to the proportions guide. Let me know if there's any typos or math errors or something else to correct or add. Also got started on the finalized illustration, which will feature something I rarely do; colors, and maybe even some light rendering if I feel like going the extra mile. Could use some highlight streaks along the characters' forms, if nothing else. Will probably also color the linework, but I'm holding off on that until it's all done to minimize work spent on corrections.

Also wrote up text for part three (taurs, nagas and merfolk) and have a few ideas for illustrations, but decided against starting on those just yet. Will probably try cutting corners with them, see how fast I can go without too much loss of work quality.

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Hmph. I redid her eyes and now she looks kind of crazed?

>>81902577
Too much sclera showing, and pupils are too small. That always creates a crazed look.

>>81902960
Thanks. I’ll work on that in the morning.

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>>81882859
thanks. saw this image, thought her arms were too scrawny and figure it would be fun learn the style to see if i can make an edit look convincing. just to make sure, i can keep resizing it back and forth and quality wont drop as long as i keep it on nearest neighbor?

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>>81903606
>just to make sure, i can keep resizing it back and forth and quality wont drop as long as i keep it on nearest neighbor?
Yup, provided you always use increments of 100 percent when enlarging, e.g. 200%, 300%, 400%. This keeps the pixels nice and square. Just remember the right percentage of that enlarged size to get it back to original size (50%, 33,333...%, 25%, respectively) and you're golden. Messing this up will cause the pixels to no longer be uniformly square, which is problematic for obvious reasons.

I should bump

>>81905248
More like bump uglies amirite lmao

What's up my diggers, do any of you know if in csp there's something like the polyline tool but with smoothing? Something like the continuous line tool but for selecting areas

>>81907017
No, but if you really want to do it that way you can use the continuous or bezier curve tools in the figure tool and then create a selection layer from the result

Let's play a fun game to combat brainworms.
What is one area that you used to struggle with, that you're making big strides in improving? Could be anatomy, linework, etc.

I'm looking over some of my older work and I used to struggle BIGLY with necks. I still do, it's a deceptively complicated collection of interlocking parts, but I've been doing a really good job at tackling that shortcoming, I think.

Where have you improved? (If your first thought is, "I haven't", then kick those brainworms to the side and think of something positive.)

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>>81908466
Recently I've been much more conscious about my proportions. I had this bad habit of drawing legs and arms and heads at all shapes and sizes, and for heads I still sorta do, but I was especially guilty of drawing thighs as these really awful bulbous cylinders, like an exploded barrel. I've been studying Bruce Timm to get over that hump.

>>81908466
But I can’t improve. /ic/ told me I’m a stagnated permaprebeg. That was five years ago. They were right.

>>81908741
proof?

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I have an idea for a bird lady, her metal mask is because she's a neurotic freak and doesn't like it when people see her face (it's completely fine, she also doesn't mind being nude. She just doesn't want her face seen)

I tried exaggerating the anatomy but i don't think she's lanky and scrawny enough. I feel like I could exaggerate more

>>81891577
sex with

>>81881832
the sheer, palpable lust that emanates off this Yoshi should be studied, good work!

>>81881904
love how proud that dewott looks, it's a literal "X3"

>>81909555
Fuck you nigger I’m not trawling through years of archives to try and dig up when they called me that.

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tried my hand at designing some kind of armor/military wear

>>81858121
I am learning to love them now

>>81909866
I apologize for not being clear, I just wanted to see what you've been drawing. I don't need proof of them calling you a permaprebeg, they call everyone that.

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>>81910293
I’m sorry for overreacting. Here’s the oldest picture I have, from mid-2019 (the year I started drawing). My current stuff is >>81902577

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I'm new to this drawing thing, anatomy is still such a killer for me but I drew a hand I was actually somewhat proud of a couple of weeks ago. I feel like I am still so far away from drawing something like the stuff I am seeing here.

>>81911228
That could be a perfectly valid hand depending on how stylized the rest of the drawing is. However The pinky and thumb are interchangeable here, and you should work on that regardless.

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>>81911396
I don't understand how to make a thumb both look like a thumb and not bad at the same time.

Also this is the current hand I am working on

>>81910500
I'm not very good at critique, so there's not much I can say, but you definitely had a better baseline than most /beg/s. Having seen some of your other art, you're definitely a lot better when it comes to the forms for the body. I feel like you could make bigger strides if you worked on proportions and maybe gesture to improve posing. Your more recent drawing looks a bit stiff.
Overall, you are getting better, don't let the crabs on /ic/ tell you otherwise.

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>>81911228
Hands are a consistent headache for even seasoned artists, deceptively complex little devils that they are. Good on you for being proud of your efforts there, not half-bad for a beginner's work either, but I can see a lot of room for improvement in the general linework as well as the anatomy.

Guess you're still figuring your way around the digital tools and techniques, judging by the sharp steps in the blue line beside the hand, and the sleeve in >>81911443. I'm guessing there's something funky going on with your drawing tablet. I remember getting similar results when working on a large canvas zoomed far out, but given the small image size, I doubt that's what you're doing. Either the tablet you've got is very old and reads positional data poorly due to outdated sensors or you've got issues with the software drivers and should update them.

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>>81911443
Your problem is that you keep aligning the pinky with the thumb; a bit to the side and a little lower than the middle fingers. Only the thumb should do that. The pinky should start aligned with the other fingers, just be shorter, and not angled to the side.

>>81911553
>I'm guessing there's something funky going on with your drawing tablet.

Man I wish I had a drawing tablet.

I am currently sitting in front of a laptop, with a mouse on the armchair of a couch, I don't even have a proper desk to rest a mouse on XD

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>>81911654 (me)


This is the current full thing (without sketch lines)

God it looks like shit.

>>81911654
>>81911865
Why are you torturing yourself drawing with a mouse instead of busting out some paper and pencils?

>>81912044
A lack of colour variety. But also the aforementioned lack of desk. The only hardwood thing I have that isn't the floor is a stool and I'd give myself horrendous back pain bending over a stool for long periods of time. I do have a coffee table but that's currently got another table on it.

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>>81911654
>>81911865
Ah, that explains it. Guessing you were zoomed out, hoping that'd make the mouse-drawn lines smoother? No such luck; might have kinda sorta worked with one of those old skool analog ball mice, but not with a digital optical one.
Screenless tablets aren't all that expensive these days, so it might not be a bad investment. The only real problem is the disconnect between drawing surface and canvas, and it'll be painful at first, but you'll get used to it fairly quickly. Alternatively, practice your linework with traditional pencil and paper as >>81912044 says or look into vector lines, since they're easy to manipulate with a mouse for a smooth, mathematically perfect result. A bit fiddlier than raster drawing, but also endlessly tweakable until you're happy with the results.

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>>81912152
This is the nicest thing I have drawn so far. That I am proud of. And yes that's the whole image.

I'll grab the pencil and paper and get to work. I may have screwed myself though given I took an architecture class for two years and most of my drawing was in that. I can design a building. Not a person.

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>>81911865
>>81912044

it's on the mouse!

My hand. My hand is on the mouse when drawing.

>>81911654
https://www.staedtler.com/intl/en/products/pencils-and-accessories/
https://www.amazon.it/s?k=printer+paper
NOW

>>81913542
>the energy of "YOU WILL DRAW WITH PENCIL. NOW!"

That got me laughing. Alright, I'll get the pencil and paper.

I need to buy a sketchbook, that's my next purchase.

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Attempting to make fuckable moogles ala ffxii influence. Should they remain flat or go the huge tiddy short stack route for consideration.

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>>81912255
>I may have screwed myself though given I took an architecture class for two years and most of my drawing was in that. I can design a building. Not a person.
Can we see some of that older work? We don't have a whole lot of people who dabble in architectural drawing.

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>>81915118
I do not have access to those papers anymore, that folder was left in a classroom over 5 years ago because I dropped out of that class because it made me want to kill myself. The only class I ever said "Nope."

I do have this which I drew using that knowledge though like 3 weeks ago?

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any feedback that can be given on this? It's a class assignment and friday is my last day to work on it

>>81916845
looks like a crossdressing yassified filipino

>>81916845
Eye is bulging out a bit too much and so is the whole area around the lips, and the tip of the nose is just a hair too large. The brow's a little too prominent, too. Jawline's rounder than it should be, and the collar slopes too much at the shoulders. The ear's a little too low and a little too visible as well and the neck connects too close to the chin.
Since you're doing it digital, should be easy enough to liquify your way to victory on these problems, but do note the deficiencies in your observations and keep them in mind for next time; there might be some that are persistent issues that'll crop up regularly and you'll always want to check your work for in particular. Might also be worthwhile to keep a save of this version to show to the teacher later to see if they've got any additional pointers to keep in mind for future efforts.

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Perspective gonna make me blow my shi smoove off

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>>81900505
another glaceon

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Ever draw something that makes you think you might be a furry?

One time someone said my art had "a woman's touch" and I don't know how to feel about that. I've been mistaken for a female artist multiple times. I still think about it.

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>>81901390
Progress. Bit of a leg day today. Surprisingly enough, I managed a pretty good human foot purely from memory, despite that never having been something I've had a lot of practice with. Sure hope that doesn't mean I've got latent footfaggotry, but if I do, it at least manifests in a useful way.

>>81920861
Could just be you've taken a lot of influences from artists who happen to be women. I'm that way myself; I've noticed a lot of the artist in the furry fandom who skew towards the more realistic-looking design philosophies I'm a fan of tend to be female, at least by my reckoning, though that admittedly can be tricky to gauge just from usernames and fursonas.

>>81920861
Post it.

>>81920861
maybe you just use a lot of pastel colors?

>>81920861
What does woman art even look like?

Up

>>81861848
It seems that I have yapped hard and long enough to actually be tasked with advising the artist behind the stand-in on what moves they should make to increase their popularity.

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Yo, /dig/, did I cook or is this dish spoiled? How can I improve before inking?

>>81919471
About two thousand times.

>>81919048
Are you sure you're not overthinking it?

>>81929609
it depends on what he's drawing to do. If you're in the moment of like, lets say they're trying to do some top down 3 point perspective shot and lack the full knowledge of both perspective and the object you're drawing in said perspective, I'd probably start helping them load the shells.

>>81929835
That's my point though. Very few people in these threads have the skill or even the knowledge to plan a pic like that. So it's safer to assume anon is just overthinking it when it's not that big of a deal.

Impossible to say without seeing the pic though.

>>81929984
Yeah I'm I'm kinda banking on it being the typical novice going far too hard on a picture they do not have the core fundies to do.

Lord knows I did a bunch of pictures like that when I was younger and indeed wanted to blow my head smooth off

Guess it's time to learn to draw clothing

What’s more important, perspective or form?

>>81930142
I don't believe you can have form without perspective so perspective?

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>>81923472
like this i think

>>81931073
You sure a woman drew this and some giga coomer?

>>81931292
Icy is a known female western artist

>>81928485
That's a pretty big vote of confidence. What are you planning to tell them?

>>81928987
That's a pretty big chin, but otherwise looks good enough to proceed with.

>>81931462
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out, I can soften that for sure. Appreciate you, anon.

>>81931462
The unfortunate truth I suppose? He's a skilled artist and he works harder than someone like me and yet none of it's rewarded. The way I kinda see it, is that if I can clock you as older than me based on your art, then you're mostly heading into a problem. I don't mean older than me by the nature of experience mind you I mean older than me in concepts of stylization. Nothing I can really say is really set in stone or true, but I'd like to dive into some like twitter art enjoyer theory I suppose.

The average social media slop sucker is within a very broad and yet very narrow band of stylization. Large majority of artist have really gone into two types of boxes. Extremely simplified western cartoony, or Eastern Stylization (Anime). There are other things outside those two but those really do have a lot of the attention on them. Now often times taste and stylization is formed based off of what you watched/read growing up and those experiences you have will most likely be shared by people around your age group depending on the generation. This is often great, it kinda guarantees a generation of your people who will be interested in your content because they'll understand and know where you're pulling from and get all the references. However millennials are really fucking weird mainly because of like a massive stylistic shift in all media at the time, introduction of anime and the internet and other things.

>>81931920
There are people who are born in the 80s who still think comic book stylizations and or general WESTERN variants of semi realism are still the play and I can't blame them, majority of the shows they grew up with were all very specific in their stylization. GIJOE, JEM, Scooby Doo, Thundercats, Reboot, Gargoyles, TMNT, He-Man, She-Ra, Voltron. Along with just far more respected comic book industry for the time. Imagine you're riding high on all that shit, forming strong core memories and then by the time the 2000s hits the popularity of not only the comic industry starts taking a nose dive, but majority of show stylizations start going far more simplified direction comparative to shows of old.

Then you have the introduction of anime to a young generation of people who will come to eat it the fuck up and a production pipeline to keep those motherfuckers fed with content as long as they have internet access. By time that lets say Naruto comes to Toonami in 2005, someone boring in 95 is 10 and THAT shit is changing their brain chemistry for the rest of their life, while you are probably now 16-23 and have more of a chance to be set in stone with the type of media you enjoy. The issue is that the people born in the 80s don't have popular media like they did before. The media they enjoyed, the way it looked is a dying breed. Most if not all things that get popular in our modern market are all bean face cutesy cartoons or just generally simplistic in nature OR they're anime.

So the conclusion I've ultimately end up at is that some stylizations are poison to long term internet popularity unless your sheer skill level boost you past said stylization. Nobody cares about someone who draws in a comic book artstyle if their technical skills are shit, but people will easily praise some simplistic cartoonist person drawing something very basic and the same goes for anime.

>>81932166
Hell a lot of people in this general are actually good artist, but they have "Old" stylization which will often make younger folks (Especially younger folks on 4chan) who don't really understand stylization think they're bad or "Permabeg" even though again they're fairly competent.

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does this look coherent?

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>>81931920
>>81932166
I think there's one wrinkle you didn't account for; a lot of the younger demographics are going back to experience that older material due to lack of options for quality entertainment in modern productions. Anime has been eating the western studios' lunch because of that thus far, but it's looking like the ideological cancer that caused the western industry's current sorry state has metastasized and infested Japanese studios now. We'll see how that turns out in the end, the Japanese tend to not appreciate outside influences much, after all, but there's likely going to be a dip in quality there as well for the foreseeable future.

Of course, just how much of an effect that's going to have on the popularity of new productions with older artstyles is difficult to gauge. After all, if you're going to go digging through the archives for your circuses, chances are you've already written off all the new shit as unworthy of your time and your first knee-jerk reaction to seeing new stuff with old styles is to immediately be suspicious of a bait-and-switch trick being pulled, given that's the meta behind a lot of the remake-fever in the western industry. Still, there's some indie productions, especially in gaming, that go out of their way to demonstrate their commitment to capturing the spirit as well as the look of the older stuff, and they tend to get a lot of love and positive word-of-mouth for their trouble. But how any of this applies to porn is something I doubt anyone has much concrete data to cite, since porn is a largely visual medium to begin with and doesn't get discussed much in "polite" circles. However, there's something to be said for the timeless quality of many art styles, I'd imagine. I guess their best bet would be to do some stylistic experimentation and see how their audience responds to it.

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>>81932713
It's extremely tough to know in the long run. You've brought up a good point of people going back to old stylizations, but right now we're in the swings of Y2K nostalgia which again is probably more for the 90s kids (Myself included) One of the things I have to say is that our standards for media has just gotten higher in general. Thundercats probably would never come back as it once looked the successful attempt at a remake was clearly based more in anime and the other was that blob faced dogshit. The old shows I feel looked the way they did because they were all trying to sell action figures specifically and now that we're kinda out of that space it would be kinda nonsensical to try to go back to it.

Honestly when it comes to video games I'd have to say 100% people want a return to form, they want old gameplay that has been pushed aside for triple A margins and GAS games. Seeing people remake mirrors edge as an indie game is great, watching the Y2K aesthetics revival is lovely, at least in the face of all the dogshit cooperate visualization, but that's Video games, it's in it's own pocket. Cartoons are weird, because Comic Books don't look for a "good cartoon" to be made anymore, they all look for good movies to be made, so Comic Book enjoyers are very much in a Comic Book into a Movie pipeline now. All the old shows that made people furries no longer exist, but those guys are self sustaining now and have their own culture. Regular cartoon enjoyers are in a drought and only really have indie productions to save them and honestly I haven't really heard anything bad about anime, in fact I feel like there are like 5 popular animes currently on going and more manga ready to be turned into anime. But like as much as I love something like ed,edd and eddy or KND a show that LOOKS like that is probably not going to be made ever again you know? At least with the direction we're going in.

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>>81932713
The porn realm is heavily controlled by the western cartoon realm/anime realm/video game realm. Whats hot in those things is hot in porn.

The thing that gets to me is that old cartoons and old media did not shy away at all from drawing female characters for the sheer purpose of sex appeal, you would think that a character like April O Neil would be like ever green, you can draw her all the time and nobody would get tired. She's not even in the conversation and she's ACTIVELY DRAWN HOT IN HER SHOW. No no no no no people would rather take all these other shows with simplsitic drawn women who aren't even drawn hot and DRAW them older/hotter I can't 100% confirm it, but I feel like my half of the generation doesn't really go for pornography that looks like April O'Neil in the 2d space. I see a lot of shit like that for the 3d render/animated space, but the amount of times I see April is abysmally low and most of the people who I see draw her are well older folks!

I think, ten years ago, I might've been considered as a promising up-and-comer, but now I'm just an old guy who should be better at drawing than he is.

How many steps do your drawings have? i dont mean rendering steps or so, more like stages of drawing the same thing,
personally i feel less blocked doing it like this
inch wide pen thumbnail > rough and loose pen sketch > slightly constructed pen sketch > fully constructed digital sketch > drawing over the former with thinner lines > final unweighted lineart

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>>81923472
A general rule of thumb with pretty high accuracy would be how women like to draw their women. Men tend to like theirs with healthy curviness and a prominent hourglass figure, while women tend to like theirs tall and lithe with more subtle curves. How they draw men is also a bit of a giveaway; women tend to make them look subtly effeminate for a more handsome look as opposed to turning up the testosterone and muscles to 11, which is how men tend to conceptualize what an attractive man should look like.

>>81932246
I got into this whole anthro business back in the early 00s, so that and some of the 80s-90s stuff from the furry fandom has been quite influential and I'll bet it shows in my work.

>>81932966
>honestly I haven't really heard anything bad about anime
It hasn't had an effect on what's currently coming out yet, but many of the big studio heads have been saying shit that's worryingly similar to what western studios started saying right before their downfalls began. Y'know, something to the effect of "we're aiming for a modern, global audience and will be making changes to reflect that diversity." Those who pay attention to inside baseball on industry news have been sounding the alarms as a result. We'll see how it plays out, but the prognostic isn't promising if the fate of the western industry is anything to go by, especially since I've also heard tell of purges of old talent and their institutional knowledge from those anime studios because their work is too fanservice-y for directors' liking, which is yet another similarity to what went down here. Can't have oldthinkers who unbellyfeel the new paradigm getting in the way, consequences be damned.

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>>81933169
>Whats hot in those things is hot in porn.
Heh, Overwatch porn is now much more popular than the game itself. Arguably, it always was from the very start, much to the chagrin of the people in charge there now. The lack of female characters with sex appeal in modern productions is no accident, nor an organic change in the zeitgeist; it's enforced from the top down by threats of industry blacklisting for noncompliance and is not popular among the fans; quite the opposite, in fact. Many of the youngins just entering adulthood don't really know what's been taken from them for these past ten, fifteen years, so it's not much of a surprise they struggle to depict sexy women well, lacking in the cultural lexicon for it as they are. All we can hope for is that they're introduced to what they've been missing, now that nobody's got direct authority over them and their media consumption habits, and learn quickly from their elders.

>>81934070
I'm reading your messages now, but Yes Horseanon you were one of the folks I assume was older than me, but I didn't want to just start dropping names for no reason. The other person I assume is older is the guy who keeps getting called a permabeg even though he's clearly skilled

>>81881212
>I regret to inform you that stretching an arm like that would, in most cases, leave breasts unaffected due to just how high that arm is raised.
No way. I don't believe you. I'm doing the pose right now and I feel like it'd squish my boobs if I had any.
Don't have my tablet, but her boobs and arms are huge. They should be squishing each other.
>>81881832
Thanks man. I love how wet and squishy your stuff looks. Really like the connectinglp threads.

>>81933982
Usually, I've been going with thumbnailing (relatively speaking, sometimes it's just a digital canvas that's zoomed out) with something of a mix between gesture and light construction, then a mix of more advanced construction and rough detail work. That's were I usually lose steam and add the project to my unfinished WIPs pile, but theoretically, that'd be followed by finalized, polished linework and coloring/rendering, but very few recent projects have gotten to linework and almost none to color.

The proportions guide illustration (>>81921075) currently on my plate is a bit of an experiment in cutting corners; the underlying gesture/construction sketch is largely by-the-numbers, since it's the fastest part of the process anyhow, but I'm kinda skipping past roughs and directly into finalized linework by just refining the rough linework into something a bit more polished as I go, relying largely on symbol drawing from memory to see me through, safe enough to do so with 3/4 standing poses since I've got a good bit of experience with them. Seems to be working alright so far. Also skipped ahead on getting the coloring started simultaneously on a whim, since I wanted to try out some quick and dirty methods I've been thinking about but never gotten around to trying and to figure out some of the more unusual color schemes involved ahead of time.

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>>81934077
Well I'm not referring to the the industry animators, a bunch of those guys are loser newage hippy types that hate characters created with the male gaze in mind. Not to say none of them don't know how to draw a hot bitch, they do it's just not even important anymore? You'll draw a hot bitch and the girl that gets popular is the stickfigure. At it's not like my generation doesn't know how to turn those stick figures into hot bitches we do it all the time.

Honestly, I can't tell if my half of the generation simply enjoys the simplification of cartoons as time goes on and we dislike the overtly semi realistic things now because they have a high chance of hitting the mark, or if these are just the cartoons we grew up with and thus imprinted on them and sexualized them as we grew older and the only reason we haven't moved on and we're still seeing them is because nothing came to dethrone them like what happened with the 80s cartoons. It is most likely the latter.

But beyond that, it's hard to place it. The only time I often see artist who draw like the person I'm about to talk to are places of like the relatively old guard of western semi real porn. The guys who are still out there right now drawing bimbo tanned whore wives fucking the blackest thug nigga you've ever seen and you can tell all of those guys are old as fuck.

>>81935151
>The guys who are still out there right now drawing bimbo tanned whore wives fucking the blackest thug nigga you've ever seen and you can tell all of those guys are old as fuck.
Ooooof, maybe it's a good thing we've moved on then?

>>81935679
I mean it's a very specific old guard of NTR artist I feel, but it feels so weirdly common for old folk. Old school black NTR and Incest centered around the house wife.

I mean Rein is not doing that, but he kinda sorta DRAWS like that.

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>>81935151
>Well I'm not referring to the industry animators
It's a problem across the board in all the entertainment industries. Even independents get pressured by both "fans" and their industry peers to get with the program or face consequences. Not as effective anymore now that the industries are crashing and burning, making it so that blacklisting from them is more helpful than harmful, if we're being perfectly honest; gives you street cred among fans when all the right people hate your guts, after all. Still, the ideology that informs these coercive actions might be down for the count right now, but it isn't out of the game yet. There's still plenty of true believers who have infiltrated into the indies and will still be doing their level best to sabotage anything and everything they can't capture and hold, and they're likely going to attempt be more subtle about it, too, making them more dangerous to those who aren't vigilant and don't do the proper background checks on prospective hires.

>You'll draw a hot bitch and the girl that gets popular is the stickfigure
I'd say that's a skill issue. A crucial mistake many of those who try to go for an easy buck with sex appeal make is thinking that's all you need. Unfortunately it is not; sex appeal gets butts in seats, but if that's all you've got going for you, a lot of those butts will be getting up and walking away before long. Those who feel like they can afford to go with a simpler artstyle usually think they've got the storytelling chops to make up for it, and they're sometimes correct; then the fandom does the rest of the work with making their beloved characters look more appealing in fanart, much to the chagrin of the on-model appreciators.

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>>81935151
>It is most likely the latter
I'd agree with that assessment, given that memories from the formative years have a big effect on people's tastes. A compounding issue is that with the general shattering of mainstream culture into self-contained niche subcultures, largely as a result of mainstream culture becoming so shit that people sought refuge wherever they could find it after being scattered to the four winds, many adopt those subcultures as part of their identities with tribalistic zeal (not helped one bit by the mutually hostile attitudes of many of these subcultures toward each other), limiting their exposure to outside influences. There's a few drifters, yours truly among them, who wander about and keep an eye on a few of the different strongholds in this new landscape, but we're a minority of the scholarly-minded that's often deeply distrusted.

>the relatively old guard of western semi real porn
Never really saw the point in that myself, since it's not that much of a departure from live-action porn. I'd guess they've always wanted to be directors of those films, but lacked the connections and resources to do it that way (or have moral objections to the shadier shit that keeps that business running) and had to make do with art. Far be it from an aging wannabe furfag artist to judge the tastes of another group, but I've always felt they should leverage the advantages of not being bound by the limitations of reality a bit more aggressively. There's a lot that can be done, after all, when you don't have to worry about filming and special effects budgets, location scouting, actor well-being and law enforcement getting involved (well, that's not quite as it used to be with Visa/Mastercard acting as the internet moral police these days, but eh, at least there's still less risk of jailtime for the time being) over some of the stunts many fetishes require you to pull.

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>>81935151
So, if you want to pass on my two cents to Reinbach, I'd say he shouldn't try to rush things, act rashly and make mistakes as a result. He's got a good thing going with a dedicated fanbase already under his belt; many a promising start has been ruined by the temptation to compromise the original vision in search of the mythical wider audience. Carefully evaluate the feedback you get from both your existing fanbase and those outside of it before you make any big decisions. It's always safer to err on the side of catering to your loyal customers, but if outsiders point out something that resonates with you (such as suggestions for art style changes), it may well be worth it to discuss it with your dedicated fans first, maybe even make a small side project as a test drive, and see how both groups like your execution of the ideas. Build up slowly but surely, and you'll be on solid footing to withstand any future headwinds.

And if you do suddenly get a massive influx of new customers, don't let it go to your head; if lucky lightning strikes in the bottle and the wider audience does show up at your door, they're there because the existing product already resonates with them. Be very, VERY careful when listening to their feedback; they're often very poor judges of why they like something, much less skilled at articulating it coherently, so you've got to read between the lines and still expect whatever you glean from it to be unreliable information. A lot of projects that found wider success have lost it all, the older fans included, by trying to radically change the creative vision after the fact, in the delusional belief that it will attract EVEN MORE of a wider audience. Do not fall for that trap, as it is a most embarrassing demise that will leave you unmourned by all, especially older fans who will usually see it as a just punishment of your betrayal of them.

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>>81936828
I'm reading this last post but from your first sentence I would again like to reiterate. Reinbach isn't some new blood 20 something year old with some pep in his step that's just trying to start getting an audience now. Reinbach is a 40+ something who's been most likely drawing since someone like me has been in primary school. he's been at it for 11 years and has a very dedicated, but unsustainably small fanbase and persisting as he is, doesn't seem to be cutting it despite the countless works he has on his belt.

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>>81936828
From what I hear from his manager, he's already extremely risk averse and gets easily stressed by change. What I've advised so far is less of a core change to what he's doing, but instead trying a SFW venture on a new account utilizing the simiplistic version of his artstyle to produce quick and easy, humorous and slightly sexual comics. This will allow him to maybe even direct people into his NSFW but for the most part it's to help with the fact that he's OMEGA SHADOWBANNED.

On twitter, if you're nsfw it really becomes a battle of who you know and I'm probably one of the biggest artist he knows at this point, but the unfortunate nature of his art means that even if I retweeted every single one of his post as they are now, the transfer rate of followers would just be low because his artstyle just isn't appealing to my audience. Hell I even tested it with some random person and it performed extremely well, it's still performing well and technically I think Rein is the better artist amongst the both of them.

I will have to agree with something you said in your previous post. Specific versions of Semi Real Western Porn really does feel unnecessary compared to both IRL porn AND 3d porngraphy. It probably works best in fantastical scenarios, but it's not like Reinbach's work isn't fantastical in it's nature.

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not sure if this is the place to ask but idk where else
do you guys know of any place i can get 3D models for refs? preferably various furry ones and as blend files
mostly because i want to see how they do stuff so i can copy it

>>81937470
Sketchfab has some furry models, but they're only downloadable if the uploader allows it.

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>>81936946
I see, but that doesn't change the advice much. If a new, more numerous fanbase shows up that utterly dwarfs the old one, it may well be worth considering disregarding the old fans entirely. They will be deeply wounded by that betrayal, of course, but sometimes cold, hard financial calculus inevitably wins out when making decisions on one's future. Still, it's not a decision to make lightly; be absolutely (and I do mean ABSOLUTELY) certain catering to the new fans, who are often much more fickle than the old ones, is worth sacrificing the proven loyalty of your old fans. And do remember that it may not be as binary a choice as that warning may make it out to be; a lot of your old fans are likely pretty close to personal friend in status at this point and will likely keep supporting you even if the new stuff isn't quite as much to their liking as the old stuff, so long as you don't pull the absolutely retarded move of openly and publicly antagonizing your old fans for seemingly no reason; that shit has killed franchises older than any of us dead in their tracks. Not even the financial might of Disney is capable of necromancy potent enough to resurrect them now.

>>81937157
>trying a SFW venture
Not a bad idea for a trial run. People might like to claim otherwise, but many people who browse SFW aren't opposed to checking out the NSFW stuff of the artists they find, and since it doesn't sound like Rein does anything too wild, they shouldn't scare off easily when they find it either.

>his artstyle just isn't appealing to my audience
Hmm, could also be the fetishes on display. With porn, that's always a genre consideration to keep in mind that's often more important than just art style. But, since I don't really know much about his art (or yours, for that matter) I'll let you be the judge of that assessment.

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>>81936946
>it's not like Reinbach's work isn't fantastical in it's nature
Again, I've only read a bit of the webcomic, but from what I saw, any supernatural elements were very subtle, aside from how easily sex happens, but that's a given for most porn settings. You'll want to frontload at least strong suggestions of the more esoteric stuff for first impressions to a new audience if you don't want to appear generic in this day and age. Maybe a side project in a more openly fantastical/sci-fi setting might be worth considering as a test?

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>>81937681
With the first part, I'll be sure to levy the pros and cons, but it's all contingent on IF any of this succeeds so he might just get stressed thinking to much about unhatched chickens (From what manager say's he gets stressed ez)

As for the SFW thing, I actually do think he would perform better and again with a SFW account not being shadowbanned it would at least not rely on direct followers retweeting.

My artwork during my entry into twitter was far more akin to the work on the right, but during the middle portion I was moving more into Semi Real but eventually went into anime stylings. Reinbach's image doesn't betray any fetish that my followers wouldn't like, in fact cum and big tiddies and goths are very much within my followers wheel house. HOWEVER My whole schtick on twitter is the praise and enjoyment of "Frumpy" girls so the chubby girl Does have more direct play with my audience.

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>>81937689
Don't know how much he plays into it, but I know his world DOES have like...demonic creatures that sorta follow/possess people? It's obviously not something the whole world is surrounding so maybe it would be interest for him to have a venture with something far more fantastical.

Then again the dude seems to be taking on a lot of work (Again it's not like he isn't putting in effort, he's making a game along with a comic)

>>81936828
Hmmm... what kimd of brushes would I need to create the strokes in the foliage section. I really hate thinking about creating my own brushes so I always stick to the default ones and feel like I'm putting myself at a disadvantage.
>>81937681
What's going on between step 2 and 3 and the "First Round"? What did he do? Did he just make a bunch of random strokes picking a random color from the gradient he made?

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>>81919202
Another glaceon butt. This time I tried to draw a pose from a reference. It didn’t turn out well... Oh well, I tried. I’m too tired to fix it

>>81937470
like >>81937551 said there's stuff on sketchfab but really you can find them in a lot of places. here's a couple spots i know off the top of my head
>patreon/substar/gumstore (use kemono if you dont wanna pay)
>smutbase and sfm lab
some people have publicly available collections of models that they've made, i believe scraggs is one of them. you'll have to check around but hopefully that helps

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>>81937956
Something to the effect of light urban fantasy, then. I suspected as much from what little I saw. Maybe a small side story that focuses more closely on the setting's fantastical elements would work without making for too much added workload? Alternatively, you could always go balls to the wall with a pornographic Shadowrun-esque genre-blender if you want a setting where virtually anything can happen, that sort of thing always appeals to an artist's desire for freedom of expression, but it'd also be a lot more extra work.

>>81938076
>what kimd of brushes would I need to create the strokes in the foliage section
Simple textured brushes that look like what the head of a paintbrush would produce would probably work alright, just jab your stylus around in pointillist fashion to create areas of light of various intensities and you'll get a pretty good result for distant trees. Then there's brushes that create leaf shapes for mass producing more detailed foliage for ones that are closer up, should be several out there for downloading and you can even create your own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaMjXmQieFo

>Did he just make a bunch of random strokes picking a random color from the gradient he made?
That's what the text would suggest. Similar results could probably be achieved with blending brushes for less effort, though. I don't have a whole lot of experience with rendering, so you'll have to experiment to find out for certain.

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I totally forgot about this WIP that I meant to finish last year. Big oops. I got the flats down at least but I still have a lot left to do before I can call it done.. These goobers have their love language though one is infinitely more...intense.
>>81885117
Noted for the future. I'm pulling ideas out of my ass and have no clue if she actually drank at all but she SEEMED the type to enjoy a glass or 5 so I figured why not? I have a shit ton of fun playing with character dynamics and taking ideas (like the lint thing) and running with them so any other info tidbits will be nice to see.
And you're very welcome! It was my pleasure and I'd love to do it again sometime.
>>81892771
Cute doodle. They traded their saddle for some hot hands.
>>81908466
Not sure if it counts but proper motivation to keep drawing was my biggest issue previously. I spent so much time drawing 1 or 2 things and then just stopping dead in my tracks for months which made it hard to maintain any sort of consistency. I have so much to learn still but it's impossible if you can't even find energy to draw in the first place.
>>81909730
Moving onto birds are we? Neat! I like the idea though I wonder if she has a pronounced beak and if so does it make her mask feel cramped at all with how small it is? And thanks again! That lustful haze needs to be thick or I'm just not happy.
>>81928987
Welcome back! I think you're cooking fine and I don't recall seeing how you ink your stuff so that would be nice to see.
>>81934180
Thanks! Wet and squishy is my jam so that makes me super happy to see. Those gooey strands are everything for me and do wonders for adding weight.

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God fucking dammit this one’s just pissing me off now