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The Home of Doerot & Kriselle.

Swoon Edition

>Relive The Doerot:
https://desuarchive.org/trash/search/subject/%2Fdoe%2F/

>Temporary Gallery:
https://mega.nz/folder/TGJRwabb#r86F4JdQw54UBpO_j2OPEA

>Doe Fics
https://rentry.co/DoeRecs

>Doegame:
https://deltarune.com/

>Childhood's End & Heartbeat At Midnight VNs:
https://balsamianxxx.itch.io/childhoods-end
https://balsaminaxxx.itch.io/heartbeat-at-midnight

>/doe/ AUtism Synopses & Collections (backup):
https://archive.ph/nyMEt#selection-75.0-201.27

>Last Doerot:
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/82390181/
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Reply to this post with any new content you've made.
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Doe and boye (sexual)
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>>82407570
Nonstop doe on boy action
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>>82407570
What about doe and boye (not sexual?)
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>>82407745
Not sexual... for now.
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>>82407745
A necessary part of a balanced doet.
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>>82407773
>>82407778
Then we're in agreement...
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>snubbing a bunch of /doe/ oc creators even though the pic from last thread was perfectly on topic
it's like neither the shitposters or even the bakers want anything of creativity on this board
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>>82408692
Eh it's fine, the chosen OP pic was fresh and cute too
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>>82407545
I love confident Noelle. Her character is going to shine when she obtains it in the normal route.
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>>82408692
Dess is not on topic. Neither are garbage OCs.
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>>82409339
*sharts*
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>>82409344
this is on topic
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>>82409359
concurred
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Whoever makes the next thread needs to change the subject line from "Noelle Holiday General" to "Deltarune Does General" because that's the single lifeline Squeezo always clings to
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>>82407545
Threadly reminder that /doe/ is host to a shitter by the name of Threadcop/Squeezo who has an obsessive hatred of any OC content being posted and especially despises the character of December Holiday. He'll spam post the exact same images, followed by Doe? or Noelle Holiday? or just throw a massive tantrum whenever the thread doesn't follow exactly how he demands the thread goes.

Do not give him (You)s. Do not give him attention. Hide his posts and ignore him.
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>>82409330
Confident Noelle will be unstoppable in her pursuit of boye.
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/doe/ has fallen. billions must snowgrave
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>>82408692
What did I miss?
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Doe and deer
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>>82407570
I love this artist. Some of the hottest Kriselle porn out there
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>>82410220
tism and gayness fit to fill half a thread
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>>82410333
Trips of truth.
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>>82407570
so much love for her boye
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>>82409466
Are you just making shit up, anon
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>>82410318
Did they do any more? Only got what's on paheal.
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>>82410575
From what I've seen, seems like these 3 are all they did. Might have been comms for all I know
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>>82410575
>Only got what's on paheal.

I have to imagine that's where they're uploading them since the format is .png, unless R34 defaults all uploads that format
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>>82409479
Top tier character
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>"I had that dream again, just like the nightmare with the hallway."
>"The one where I was walking home from somewhere, but I can never tell where."
>"Everywhere I turned, the town... moved so that home was farther away."
>"It happens so instantly, as if I were reaching out to touch someone on the shoulder...
>"...but they somehow moved while I was looking dead at them."
>"It's like a maze of the only world I ever knew."
>"And then I hear a slam from far behind me in the trees. But when I turn my head... it echoes far ahead of me."
>"Something chases me, something glowing red like my old night light."
>"I heard red light helps you sleep, but it always kept me awake."
>"I thought it was a ball, but then I saw it as a wave."
>"I try to hide but it always finds me."
>"And before it catches me, when everything is illuminated..."
>"...I wake up."
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What if girl and boye???
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Does anyone here have the /doe/ edit of the joe keskold meme?
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>>82411546
Red light doestrict
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stupid sexy kris
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>>82412089
This Kris is of improper form and it pisses me off
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>>82411546
>Dess witnessing the full power of the Human SOUL
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>>82412132
i heard theyll do whatever you want if you pay them enough chocolate coins
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>>82412247
>noelle walks in with a comically large sack, jingling with the foil of wrapped chocolate coins
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>>82412310
i knew she was secretly jewish
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>>82412247
>>82412310
>shotguns him a chocolate coin
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>>82412333
She would literally do this
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>>82412333
>>82412371
I feel autistic for asking but are there any *good* Minecraft UT mods?
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>>82412406
Meant UT/DR by yk
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breaking news: local teen whores self out for chocolate
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>>82412406
I don't see how you could implement UT/DR content into Minecraft in a fun way.
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>>82412466
...but only to the mayor's daughter Noelle....
even though they're married....?
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>>82412495
your pathetic logic will sway them naught
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>>82412622
terrifying proportions
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>>>still trying to slip your slop into the thread

Out.
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>>82412467
Implement Darkners as mobs, introduce a new dimension in the form of the Dark World, make it so you need a sword to spawn one, base the structure of the Dark World on where you created it. Would require more Chapters to draw from more Darkner ideas for random objects, but hell, you also have all the different weapon options on their own. Boss mobs like King or the Knight, friendly NPCs like Kris or Susie or Noelle, spells you can learn based on magic attacks usable in-game. It doesn't need to be a functioning RPG to be interesting, just have cool mechanics transferred in, like sparing, freezing and the SOUL for example.
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>>82412746
this sounds like a really cool concept for a minecraft mod someone should make an rpg based off of this
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I have not had the time to do anything with the doe or the boye recently
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>>82412934
it's like..... the distance between two........
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>>82412934
I hope you find some inspiration again soon
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>>82412992
I feel like the game itself will be lucky to have Kris and Noelle end up as just friends after everything. But, of course, nobody in this thread has actually played Deltarune
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>>82413203
My brutally honest opinion is that this will be the case as well, only because that's what I believe Susie would want the most. She's quite greedy about having friends, but anything beyond that doesn't quite feel her style.
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>>82413203
>I feel like the game itself will be lucky to have Kris and Noelle end up as just friends after everything
I like Kriselle so obviously I wouldn't be mad if it was canon, but my biggest hope of all is reconciliation.
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>>82413335
I feel like I ask everytime someone posts this artist, but have they made any new DR content?
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>>82413411
I'm gonna be honest with you anon, I have no idea. I just saw a Noelle-related meme and wanted to share it.
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>>82413335
>christmas heterochromia noelle
>kris in short sleeves
>muffet there
>fat tits

I'm confused.
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>>82413203
the reconciliation is inevitable, why add all these build up for nothing?
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>>82413466
No worries anon.
>>82413525
That artist had interesting tastes.
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>>82413535
Yes, reconciliation. As friends. I don't see them getting together romantically, nothing close to it
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>>82413554
Okay. Thank you for making a statement without reasoning. Your post will be thrown into the trash with the rest of the dime-a-dozen doomer posts.
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>they won't get together

Susie considers this statement a challenge.
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>>82413585
real
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>>82413622
kurisumasu draws too?
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>>82413585
I would prefer Susie get together with Kris. Noelle has been a pretty bad friend to them all things considered
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>>82413585
Wingwoman Susie would've been so good, wish Toby was a bit more normal with some of these characters.
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lol
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>>82413641
True... she has been pretty awful... urini- I mean yearning for Kris for years... concocting a deceitful triple truce with Kris... renaming Krismas without informing Kris... staring at Kris' bare feet in gym class.... just evil...
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Well, does she?
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>>82413733
>doe imposter
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She had both of her antlers when they walked into the forest together.
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Doe?
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>>82413981
>Kris visibly tenting
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>>82413733
Looks like Judge Holden wtf
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>>82414009
Nobody ever said a couple of dumb teens could be subtle, but at least they were smart enough to get it all out before Kris zipped it back up. Monsters have very keen noses, and Toriel would've been able to smell that mess in his boxers from across town.
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The doe when the boye
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>>82413981
>>82414009
>>82414122
>Dess beating Kris up gets them off

GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT
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Tallelle
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>>82414267
Moggelle
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>>82414123
Kinda want to see more Momdyne AU
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Frigid feeling of Kris' scars and wishing she could heal them...
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>>82414908
How does Kris feel about his scars?
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>>82414986
I'm saddened to think there are nights where they may ache, and the necessity of covering such disfiguring injuries becoming a point of shame to him feels intentionally similar to the "icy" barrier Noelle has built around herself for want of friends and affection and freedom from the endless studies. In that way, they break down one another's barriers. But I do hope that if we get some canonical revelation that healing magic in the Dark World heals the injured and ill in the Light World, that it isn't seriously applied to this AU somewhere down the line; Kris' scars are part of who he is, even if he obscures it.
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>>82415019
The idea that the ill and injured can be healed within Dark Worlds is a contentious topic, I think. In terms of writing it would be odd for consequences to be so easily written off; I almost feel as if there would need to be a catch to it. It's already quite wild that death can be "undone" in dark worlds as shown with Gerson; the obvious catch there being he can only exist within a dark world.
But that does bring up an interesting point: since there are acts you can take in the overworld with Kris that injures his HP, IIRC that doesn't actually heal no matter how much he is healed within a dark world, nor what his HP is at. Take that as you will.
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>>82415098
>In terms of writing it would be odd for consequences to be so easily written off

To be fair, I don't think anyone expected such a dramatic rift in potential narrative pathing as Berdly may end up giving Chapter 5's festival. He can be alright, injured or absent entirely, and hopefully this is where Toby really begins to put the greater scope of our actions on display in the Light World, as he did with Tenna. If there ends up being a hospital Dark World, I can see Noelle being its creator, made in pursuit of the vain attempt to use her magic to heal her father. I don't really see that happening considering how close we're getting to the end, though.
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>>82415280
It's distracting how overdetailed Carol is. God, I can't imagine that wasn't intentional.
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>>82407549
Doodles for anatomy practice feat. a couple /doe/s
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>>82416357
>Carol and Toriel looking at that
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>>82416357
Like mother, like daughter.
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>>82416357
Excellent doebuttes!
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>>82416419
If you ask me Toriel should join the two of them in showing off a little

>>82416569
Thanks!!
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Deer?
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D'Knight
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>>82417643
*strategically delays post*
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>>82417656
that nose is so ug
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>>82416357
Always nice seeing Carol appreciation!
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Dess's iconic stupid coif
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>>82419492
And Trench Coat Mafia lumberjack fit
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Doe!
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>>82419846
she'd better cover up if she knows what's good for her
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>>82418145
I’ve been in a big Carol mood lately, I’m a big fan (despite her overworld sprite.)
Think I’ll probably do some more of her since she’s so fun to draw
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>>82416357
nice does
what program/which brushes do you use?
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>>82419924
But then she can’t tease Kris.
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>>82420472
That's what Elly and Azzy are for. The two of them like to send their respective sibling out on little messenger errands to the respective troublemaker, unknowingly delivering coded phrases that inevitably causes the them to burst out laughing seemingly without context.
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Noelle?
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>>82420508
Nevermind I found her
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Noelle loves her sister. Why shouldn't you?
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>>82420596
She’s already moved on, and replaced her with Susie. If that’s love, then I’d hate to see what your idea of hate is.
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>>82420600
doe is sad, deploy the boye
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>>82420313
Awesome
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>>82420313
While I know you didn't offer, some wholesome content of Carol with her husband is sorely lacking not just around here but in the world, in general.

>>82420516
M-MASAKA!? I'M SEEING DOUBLE!?
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>>82420970
>Double Snowgrave

kris aiming the two noelles from his chest as they fire off their pillars of snow, making it look like he's shooting out of his nipples
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>>82420752
Doeploy*
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Yet another lovely piece added to the "art of Dess in or with someone wearing a spacesuit" wall.
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>>82421830
This is such a weird concept, but it's so sincere and soulful that I love it.
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>>82422056
It's certainly just a Deltarune version of Outertale, which is both an AU and has its own fangame. Niche, but I've always loved space as a setting and aesthetic, so it really jives.
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>>82421830
Doemata
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>>82422145
I suppose it really fits for Dess wanting to leave Hometown and be somewhere else. I could see it being the next step for her after the city. Is the Outertale fangame any good? Is it worth playing for someone not familiar with the source material?
For how much I was into Undertale as a young'un, I'm surprised I never got into any AUs for it, even the more "normal" ones. I think I had heard too many horror stories about a lot of them and stayed away.
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>>82422307
It's not as divorced in scope or build from the source material as UTY is whatsoever, and I'd liken it to to Undertale, but with very different visuals, character designs and OST, as well as a revised plot to fit the setting and slightly increased difficulty with some new mechanics. The overall premise remains the same apart from the stark change in premise however, so if you're going to play it without extensive recollection of Undertale, it's story is close enough to likely jog your memory without reading the wiki.

I'd give it like a firm 6.5 to 7 out of 10 overall. Also Flowey is kinda funny.
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>>82422507
*stark change in setting

But yeah, it's more than Undertale with a space filter slapped on, but not significantly much more.
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>>82422306
>Dess as Hugh
>Kwisp in Diana's fit

the evil...
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>>82422306
>>82422835
Actually somewhat fitting if she's supposed to be an automaton.
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Post dog Kris
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>>82423049
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>>82423049
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>>82423049
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>>82423049
Need bupper edit of this
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>>82422835
If I had a nickel for every time I imagined Dess in a David Menkin role, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
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>>82424061
What was the first? Soma?
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>>82422835
Loli Krissy ToT
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>>82424308
King Barnabas from FF16. The Dominant of Odin.
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I like to think that Noelle very capable and willing to do vandalism
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>>82424493
>Capable
Sur-
>Willing
/doe/ break this man's kneecap for being OOC.
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>>82424571
I just think she has the occasional desire to be an anti-establishment rebel and the works despite her mom being part of the governent. Like, maybe she daydreams about travelling to the nearest city to blow up a data center but ultimately she settle on walking to the nearest neighbouring town to graffiti small doodles.
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>>82424667
She would spray one inch of graffiti, immediately feel terrible, buy paint and immediately start fixing it.
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>>82424733
Yep, ultimately her polite nature wins out over her desire for rebellion. But at least she can try again next week.
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>>82424733
>>82424667
I feel like Kris could be a negative influence in a positive, confidence-building way. Feels like a mischievous lil gremlin when not puppetted by eldritch horrors.
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>>82424847
Could would absolutely make her do harmless pranks to get into just enough trouble that she doesn't go to jail.
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>>82414846
hmm
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>>82425355
Scheming. Plotting. Concocting, even.
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>>82407549
Doodles pt. 2

>>82420365
Using Procreate on iPad, with some custom brushes I made (top right picrel)
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>>82425442
Wonderful Noelle but you should crop out the left side of this image
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>>82425442
Ah man. I'll have to look more into making a custom brush for myself. Great does btw
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>>82425458
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>>82425788
Perfect
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>>82425442
lovely doe and the yuri is nice too
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>>82425442
ftfy
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>>82425355
draw frigid blushing right now
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>>82425788
No, no, you went too far to the right. You cut off a piece of Noelle! Here, look, let's just pan a little over to the left and--ah shit, I think I went too far over
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Frigid giving an icy cold handjob in which she says she's uninterested by but nonetheless carries the action with a huge red face
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>>82425787
Thanks! This brush is actually a modification of a modification of a modification. Seems to work pretty well both for more shape-based painting and line-based drawing too. Pressure changes opacity more than size with it so it lets you sketch in kind of a different way.
If you use procreate this should work.
https://files.catbox.moe/igmsye.brushset

>>82425458
>>82425929
Thank you very much! :)
The holidays are hard to draw, idk how other people pull it off so well
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>>82425355
Plz
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>>82426023
Carol should be with Asgore not Toriel!
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>>82426484
My headcanon is Asgore and Carol were, just like their children, [spoilersdon'tworkontrashbutjustpretendtheydo]childhood friends[/spoiler]
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>Noelle gets to wake up to this cutie patootie every morning
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>>82416357
These look really good, you should consider doing anatomy practice for December sometime!!
and distant admirer kris...
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>>82425442
Thank you for the art but the person practically asking for Kress art is baiting, we don't do that here. I concur with drawing Dess though, she'd look great in your artstyle.
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>>82426667
>liking Dess but disliking Kress
No offense, just don't think I've seen this combo here before. More into dessriel?
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Just Kriselle, thanks. Or just Noelle
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Just Kris, in fact.
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>>82426732
I like dessriel so if you make content for it i'd appreciate if you posted it too.
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>>82426974
>Noelle when she
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>>82409466
That screenshot tells me nothing
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>>82427018
that wasn't me, but I also like Dessriel. I have a few little minicomics in sketch form but haven't done much with em. I'm a big fan of Hot Topic-core Asriel

If there was a deltarune general or something, it would be nice. I don't really wanna stir the pot with Dess-only stuff considering how people get about it.
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>>82426732
>More into dessriel
I'm so-and-so on it because we haven't seen what their chemistry is like in-game. I'm only into Kriselle and Krusie, personally.
Assuming you're the artist I'm responding to - and I apologize if you've already drawn Kress here before, or were already aware - but there's been too much clashing here over what ships are posted, so I politely ask that it isn't posted; as this general was specifically made for Kriselle in mind. I don't mind same-age Kress, it's harmless, but we've just had a lot of bad actors trying to shove /ss/ Kress down our throats and flamewar the thread when it wasn't wanted by the original community.

But we've had regular Dess posts and discussion long before which we do really enjoy, even if some want to revise history and claim all of this was specifically about hating Dess, which it isn't.
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>>82427087
eh, "people" is putting it nicely, it's mostly one dude with a toxic distaste for anything dess related when dess has been a staple in /doe/ for years. So I suggest either posting your content in here or /sus/.

>I'm a big fan of hot topic asriel
I'm more into plain vanilla nerd asriel but as long as he doesn't look like a generic deviantart fursona than anything can go i guess.
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Noelle?
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>>82427087
>If there was a deltarune general or something, it would be nice
That would be /sus/ more or less since it predates /doe/ and has a broader range of topics and characters.
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>>82427222
That is not the case. /sus/ is Krusie and Kreth, rarely Krusielle as their ships. But just as it is there, we're also open to other topics if it's pertaining to discussing the overall game's story and characters here.
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>>82427222
I guess there's also the vg utdr thread, but obviously no nsfw fanart on there.
we should probably just start talking about noelle again instead of boring thread politics
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>>82427263
>/sus/ is Krusie and Kreth
Twice as many as /doe/, then.
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Camp Lazdoe
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>>82414086
KEK
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>>82427297
Sorta, I mean just like /sus/ we rarely dabble in Krusielle too. But Kreth works out as a second ship hosted there since Veth was made specifically in and for that thread, even that aside, there was quite a few good reasons why that ship could work out in terms of chemistry and story. For those exact reasons, many anons who were into Krusie were also into Kreth, therefor there was a cultural overlap between the two communities who shared the same standards. As proof of that, there have been anons who have critiqued the idea of Kreth and were able to have a rational discussion with those they disagreed with.
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Noelle describing her type to Catti and just subconsciously describing every characteristic that Kris has
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>>82427666
Reminds me of that festival comic of that exact situation with but Susie, so it looks like it's a Suselle comic at first until Susie mentions that Kris is who Noelle is describing.
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>>82427647
ai slorp
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>>82427736
woah this is a really well drawn Dess.
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>>82427755
including or excluding the bulge
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>>82427755
Agreed! Very pretty Dessign.
by user @UNCANNYFAPS on Twitter. Their only post so far…
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Deer?
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>>82427779
Shhh, Those are just MREs she hides in her coochie
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>>82427666
>>82427697
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>>82428048
>Noelle trying to get Susie to play Dess's guitar was reflecting her desire to hear Kris play piano again
Fuck how did I not realize this before.
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>>82428048
Imagine she continues to try and deny it but Susie reinforces it at every step.
>We're just neighbors
>Just neighbors don't have a bunch of pictures together, or one on their desktop
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>>82428082
It's Kriselle all the way down
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>>82428106
tbf for Noelle it may just be what she says because she thinks its how Kris feels - as far as she knows, Kris moved on from her a few years ago and her yearning is completely one sided. she'd only think otherwise if Kris tries talking to her directly (as they do in the Snowgrave route, where Noelle instantly tries to get close to them again) or if she learns the Dark Worlds are real and that Kris was already showing that they cared.
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woah shes naked under there
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>>82427736
need
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>>82426806
artist?
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>>82428327
https://x.com/boxedsprouts/status/1953002385984598329
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>>82428278
surprisingly tasteful
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>>82428106
Just neighbors
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>>82428437
This is the biggest reason I don't see Kris and Noelle getting together in Deltarune. She lies to Susie's face about the nature of their relationship (or was just leading Kris on, whichever is worse?) to get closer to her. She's a bad friend
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>>82428187
Kriselle stocks are UP.

>>82428205
You're absolutely correct about that.
>When given a present Noelle takes it as an indicator that Kris WANTS things to "go back to the way they were"
>Implying that they're not friends like that anymore
>Noelle stuttering and correcting herself when she says she misses hearing Kris play piano to "she liked it"
>>>>>It's surprisingly nice to hear Kris say that
She genuinely wants to be friends like they used to, but she doesn't know if Kris feels the same way. She's both trying to be polite as to not strong arm Kris emotionally into making a hard choice, but also isn't confident to tell him her feelings.
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>>82428538
This came out weird. By "in Deltarune" I meant in the actual game. Of course you can fanfic whatever you want. There's the Weird Route I guess but it's too rapey for me to find enjoyable
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>>82428278
delicis
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>>82428541
Personally, I think it may be that she cares about Kris enough that she is willing to let them go if she honestly thinks they have moved on from her, even as much as it hurts her personally to do so. She wouldn't want to try and make Kris pity her and just go along with "still being friends" even if that had long run its course.
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>>82428538
Respond to this evidence >>82428541
Dialogue pretty implicitly implies that they grew apart, or that Kris was the one being emotionally distance, because even so, she goes out of her way to offer Kris help with school, tries not to emotionally back him into a corner, offers him school supplies when asked, went OUT of her way to ask Alphys to let him be apart of her study group.
If your idea of being a bad friend is being rude unintentionally one or two times, it's a rather weak reason. Susie, Kris, and Noelle all have done acts against each other that a friend shouldn't do, so if you levy that critique towards one of them, you have to levy it towards all of them.
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>>82427931
>boye thinks about doe
>doe thinks about boye
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>>82429039
Their romance shall manifest...
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>>82427736
good dessign, sucks it had to be ruined by disgusting kress slop
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>>82422307
spr_kris_noelle_hug_full
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Asriel trying to get chara and dess to get along only to look on in shock and bewilderment as the mere sound of cowbells causes both his girlfriends to start mooing (kris thought it'd be a funny prank)
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>>82429641
wonder what the fuck the context to this was
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>>82429722
>context
Not sure there is any. I think it's just a silly sprite animation.
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>>82425442
>those carols
fuck she’s perfect
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Somewhere else, Stance is found by Carol's hidden phone tracker app to be at the Davey's and Lane's parking lot Twerkathon, revealing that that boy really is Toriel's grandkid
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>>82427736
Get that futa trash out of here.
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>>82431204
Thank you, chatGPT
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>>82431592
Kris was probably into it (as a side grade)
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>>82431536
> What could have possessed you to go to...
> an event like that?!
>...I don't think you want the answer to that.
> Oh, dear!
> Stance, you are a Holiday-Dreemurr!
> Have some decorum!
>Not exactly embarrassed by a winning performance.
>Well, I guess it wasn't...winning, no one was really keeping score.
> STILL.
> MANNERS. Which include not shaking your rump on the street.
Actually how DOES Toriel's religiosity change in /doe/verse considering that the reasoning for her puritanism has essentially been fulfilled
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>>82431799
I headcanon the dreemurrs as having southern accents and toriel as being one of them evangelical soccermoms
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For being what he is Stance would almost give off zesty korean vibes
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>>82426667
>we don't do that here.

You really aren't doing yourself any favors by lying to random artists who happen to stop by here, you know that, right?
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>>82432357
prease understandu, two characters who were friends doing things together is vewwwwy scawwwwy to mr. squeazo
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>>82411831
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>>82432408
I'm not of the opinion that everyone who whines about Kress is le ebul boogeyman because that's just not substantiated by all of the people who have spurned the topic over the last ~11 months and offered perfectly reasonable criticisms against the behavior of certain fans, but making a move to disavow a topic through speaking for the entire general is just so laughably absurd it almost comes across as sarcastic, as if to imply a single pairing must be wholly endorsed by only its most unpalatable constituents. Not unlike the overzealous rejection of Weird Route themes and content because Snowcoomers exist, really.
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>>82432782
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>>82432782
NTA but the problem is that there isn't all that much new stuff to talk about regarding Kriselle but talking about other stuff that's tangentially related to the thread topic just makes everyone act obnoxiously in both directions
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>>82432914
It isn't a matter of timing since this has been an ongoing source of discontent with the thread since pretty much right after Kress as a topic got its wings last year. Though I completely agree with the latter point in regards to either case, recent or old. Ultimately the complaints against the subject material hold greater weight than the mere concept of Kress which, to be fair, has been represented very wholesomely and humorously thanks to Whump's efforts. I should probably add that "Kress" in that context refers to anything featuring the two, and not just ship art, like how Asians typically label such work.
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>>82433028
larp larp cembur
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>Toiling away in the Kress mines
>It's an honest living
>Breaking my back for the Kress finds
>It's an honest living
>Living for the next Kress haul
>'Til I've lived honest and long
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>>82432782
I like any material that is more akin to "Dess the cool bigger sister" but the more you see her the more you realize she was just a bit of a dork that Kris idolized because she kind of understands and helps Kris with some of their identity issues. The most frustrating thing for me is that for some reason we just never see much of Noelle and Dess together, when we know they were as close as could be. While the Kris-Knight dynamic is interesting, I think it'd be 20x more interesting to see how Noelle reacts to that information.
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>>82433100
Of course, and I concur completely with your point about the two sisters. But those sorts of conversations are what should be expected out Dess discussion, but what is "expected" isn't necessarily what's exciting, that's simply the way of 4chan and the internet. Personally I think we've just about run out of gas on sanitized speculation to that other Anon's point, which is why I always feel the most inspired when posting fanart or seeing what drawfags have cooked up in their spare time.
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The Distance Between Two and GLACEIR feel so nostalgic to me, and they aren't even year-old tracks...
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>>82433186
I just wish Anons wouldn't treat individual posts and discussions as though they're the dominant authority on any subject ever. It's not as if Dessriel or Kress posts invalidate one another.
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>>82433230
I feel like I've been hearing Distance Between Two since ch1
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>>82433325
people will complain about anything instead of ignoring what they don't like
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>>82433186
Personally I expect there will be a slow but inevitable return to making AU content until ch 5 hits, we've already been flirting with it a little in the past month with new Swap and Frigid Noelle.
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>>82433476
and harassing anybody that talks about any of the other AUs
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>>82407549
Sides of a Story
By Greenswordsman
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Hometown hadn’t seen a spring this beautiful in years. The air was crisp and cool, and the sun shone with no clouds to hide it. Robins and flycatchers and other passerines made conversation in the thicket, surrounded by branches newly dressed in fresh canopy. The wind bore the sound of children laughing in their front yards, heralds of the start of a weekend. All the scenery and sound distilled idyllic in the most perfect sense of the word. Picturesque. Beautiful. Schmaltzy. Kitsch. Dishonest. Sickening, disgusting, deceitful and…

Vess stopped herself with a clenched fist and a held breath, and when she released it, she slumped against the wall outside QC’s diner. Exhausted from a sleepless night and the roiling, pointless rancor in her head.

Nothing about this place was truly disgusting. None of those kids were laughing dishonestly, like their every waking moment was dedicated to deceiving her. Vess mocked herself for even thinking along those lines.

The day was indeed beautiful, and just about every sentence fragment she could catch from passerby and pedestrians affirmed just as much. She had to take their word for it. It was too bright. It made her squint and hiss through her teeth. It made her feel exposed and seen and vulnerable, not like the comforting darkness of the old Ketsukane house where she and her “father” made their lodging away from prying eyes. She winced at herself again. Why couldn’t she just call him “Dad?” Was it really that hard? Was his position so far removed? Plenty of other people who have had father figures but had no blood in common. That was a thing in this world, right?

Of course it was.

Dreemurr was one such person.
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>>82433832


“Why did you need to take everything from me to do it?” Vess thought aloud.

In the past, she would have screamed that question into her pillow, red in the face and bejeweling the sheets with angry tears. She was supposed to be the hero. She was supposed to be the one. Before the day her eyes even formed, she felt that comforting lullaby in her head, the melody of that hymn everyone blithely sang at church, assuring her of her role, and every day from that point, she would wake up knowing it had all been taken away.

She looked at the scars she kept so deftly hidden under her long sleeves, the same ones that lined up in the middle of her chest and up and down her legs, all reminders of the botched process of saving her, undertaken by that Doctor who she hesitated to call father.

She remembered the pain, and repeated the question to herself, even quieter this time.

“Why did you need to take everything from me?”

“Who took what from you?”

The vessel nearly bumped her head into the soffits above her, skittering to her feet like a started spider. “W-WHA-?! WHO?!”

“EEP!”

As much as Noelle tried, she couldn’t exorcize the imagery of scuttling bug legs as the grey girl got to her feet, but her concern for the girl outweighed her fear, and not just that brought on by the imagery. Few had courage to approach her in the first place. The last one who tried was Berdly, and he paid for it in the sum of two of his tailfeathers.

“N-Noelle?”

That soft, meek voice didn’t evoke the glum, angry newcomer she had gotten used to. The doe’s shoulders lowered and her posture straightened. “Um… hi?”

“...Hey.”

“Who were you talking to?”

Silver slivers shone in the sunlight up at Noelle, and meekly back down to the ground. “No one.”

“Just talking to yourself?”
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>C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKERRRR
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>>82427894
i miss this artist and his work. helicopter noelle and prickelle were so fun
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>>82433845
Maybe it was a lack of energy, but Veth didn’t feel the anger she would feel at a question asked in bad faith, which of course gave her the clarity to realize it may not have been in bad faith at all. “I… I’m jutht talking to mythelf, I guess.”

Noelle closed the distance as a good gesture. “I used to do that too sometimes. Back when Dess first went missing.”

There was that name. The older girl. Dess. Short for December if she recalled correctly. “Oh yeah… I kind forgot you had a thithter. I think I only thaw her onthe.”

“She has only been out a few times. She’s still recovering from the whole ordeal. You might have seen her at church.”

“Yeah…”

A pause that would have killed any other conversation followed, but neither of the two could take it upon themselves to break it off, or to at least look away from the other.

Vess finally found something to say. “Um… that wath after you and Krith and Thuthie found her, right?”

The doe’s ears perked up. That sentence sounded like something rustling in the tall grass, and all her instincts sent blood to the ample muscle her legs. Her hooves tapped the pavement and she almost pivoted away twice. Against all her good judgement, she stayed and continued instead of fleeing.

“Y-yes? Right before you showed up and…-”

Noelle had gotten more bold in the past two semesters. She had learned to stand up for herself and her friends and face dangers to her life for the sake of people she loved, but she questioned whether or not she was bold enough for this.

Vess wasn’t exactly a friend. All she could think of when the vessel entered her memory was someone who was surly and unpleasant in the light, and downright adversarial in the dark. She thought she had seen her last dark fountain after Dess’ return until Vess showed up. The deathtraps, the heraldry-clad henchmen she would send after the group, the downright villainous speeches, all painted an ugly picture of someone she ought to avoid.
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>>82433872
Yet here she was, half slumped against the wall, looking lost and unhappy and scared and not doing a thing to fight her.

Because Vess wasn’t thinking about the fights.

She was thinking about the aftermath of each one. How, from the very start, Kris would finish it with a smile. When he and Susie defeated Dreemcrusher the first time, he gave the big, golden robot a dark candy and it healed him enough for Veth to finish repairs on him later, and he did it with a smile. A smile that Vess saw snideness and arrogance and cockiness in, rubbing every victory in her face. Same with their first fight with Deetee and how he ordered Ralsei to flirt with her. The masked, eldritch girl stood no chance. Once again, Kris smiled, even throwing a few flirts of his own Vess’ way, and it infuriated her all the more…

The memories made Vess livid at first, and it folded her brow and the corners of her lips for a few seconds before fizzling out like a wet match. She remembered that Dreemcrusher wasn’t the only one who got a free healing item that day. She remembered him blushing a bit when he made those remarks. She remembered so many proffered hands of his, clad in those silver gauntlets, always offering to pick her up.

She had never accepted.

And still, he always offered.

Noelle looked on, perplexed as Vess continued. “Why doeth he theem to care about me, even though he took everything from me?”

The doe blinked and shook her head as if to shake herself awake. “‘Took everything?’ What do you mean? You’ve never talked about this before.”

“Becauth we’ve never really… talked before.” Vess confessed. “Noelle… ith it okay if I athk you thome thingth?”

Noelle saw the grass rustle all the more in her mind’s eye, and she took a small step back. “Like what?”

“Like… Noelle, ith it true you’ve known him longer than anyone elthe?”
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>>82433881
Something felt askew about that question, and it wasn’t the sleuthing for clues against an enemy that Noelle thought it would be. She just couldn’t parse it. “I… yes. Me and Kris go way back. Why is that important to you?”

“Becausthe maybe you can help me underthtand thomething I’ve been failing to underthtand all thith time.”

Vess stopped herself before she could voice the rest of that thought.

‘And maybe you can help me reach a decision.’

The foundation of Noelle’s courage shook at the thousand explanations for Vess’ behavior, but the doe powered through it and drew even closer. “What is it you don’t understand?”

“... I athume by now you’ve theen it? That… power Krith hath?”

Noelle knew immediately. It shone with a carmine that matched the human’s eyes and dispelled the darkness around them, no matter where they went. “Yeah. I remember that.”

“Why did HE need it tho bad?!” A little eruption of anger shook what was a dormant volcano inside her. “Why did… Why did it have to be him? What wath tho important that he had to take it?”

Gears turned in Noelle’s head before she formulated her question. Knowing about that power was something deep. Something hidden that she didn’t fully grasp herself until the end, when it was used for its ultimate purpose. So many people, including her own mother, had done everything in their power to obfuscate it. Vess knew about this, yet it seemed no one had filled her in on what happened out in the open. Not at the Festival, not at the Church, nothing.

The doe finally found the right words for her question. “No one… told you what happened? You haven’t tried talking to Kris?”

Memories of all their fights came back to the Vessel’s mind again, this time to her chagrin. “What do you think? I don’t know if I can thay we’re on speaking termth.”

Noelle leaned next to Vess as she once again deliberated on her words, then settled on what she thought would best help Vess understand the root of all her problems.
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My doelicopter goes

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“So you know about Dess, right?”

“Yeah?”

“Do you know… what actually happened?”

“I never athked anyone.”

Noelle drew a deep breath, like she was diving into memories she could drown in.

“... Me and Kris have known each other since before I could even remember. His family was friends with mine for years before we were even born. Almost every day, he’d come over. We’d play in the grass, or run around in the forest nearby with Dess and Azzy watching over us. Every Christmas was “Krismas’ with him until the nickname just stuck. He was a weird little kid… fahaha! I mean, he’s still weird but… that’s okay, you know? I was a weird kid too and he was the only one who understood my weirdness. We were inseparable for so long…”

Veth failed to grasp her own blitheness. “I mean, you two thtill look pretty intheperable to me. I’m thuprithed I didn’t thee him with you.”

The deer’s eyes narrowed, and she exhaled, bemused, but still willing to help Veth understand. “Yeah, well, that’s nowadays. Or at least, that’s how it’s been recently, but for a while… we really weren’t.”

Vess finally felt like she was getting new pieces of the puzzle. She scooted closer to the Holiday girl, ears open and attention undivided.

“Seven years ago is when it happened. Dess went out that front door and no one knew where she went. All of us just assumed she was headed over to the Dreemurr’s place and that was that. Mom sure was content with that answer… At least until evening came and she started making calls and each one was more frantic than the last. At that point, we were all panicking. Mr Boom hadn’t seen her, Toriel hadn’t seen her, and then, to make matters worse, Toriel stated she thought Kris was over at our place, and we all realized they were both gone. That’s when I tried going out to find him. Come around midnight, I succeeded, but neither of us could find Dess. The sun was already out by the time Chief Asgore found us both.”
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>>82433893
While Noelle soaked in the cold water of that memory, Veth had her thinking cap on, and it clearly wasn’t on straight. “Thoooo… He took the Power becauthe he wanted to find her? I mean… that’th underthtandable but he didn’t have to take it from me to do it! Hell, I could have done it! He could have jutht athked me!”

“Vess!” For the first time, there was fire in the deer’s voice. It almost didn’t register.

“W-what? It’th… it’th noble but… Noelle, you know the prophethy by now! I know you do becauthe I thaw it! My firtht time in a dark world, Deetee showed me and I thaw you guyth already fulfilled it and… Noelle, I could have done it! Krith didn’t need to thteal that from me!”

The grey girl looked to her side to see Noelle scowling at her, and she cowed under her gaze. “Vess, I need you to be quiet and listen. You asked me a question and I’m not done answering it, okay?”

“... okay.”

“*Sigh* Vess, I don’t know much more than what they say at church or what Kris and Susie showed me, or what part you have to play in it, but I can tell you this. Kris didn’t just go on this whole thing for some prophecy. My sister wasn’t some errand for the ‘Hero of Prophecy” or whatever. In fact… this whole thing wasn’t even Kris’ idea at first.”

The grey girl’s silver eyes dilated and her teeth gritted. “Whose was it then?”

Noelle unclenched a fist she didn’t even know she was making and let her expression soften. “It was my mom’s. I don’t know how much of this information I can share with you. It’s really sensitive and I don’t think I know you well enough. But long story short, Mom was hurt really bad when Dess went missing, and, under my nose, under everyone’s nose, she came up with a plan to find her… and Kris got in on it.”

The vessel’s eyes wandered with her thoughts. “So he was just a pawn?”
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>>82433903
“Not entirely… When Dess disappeared, Kris was hurt too and the hurt just compounded between the two of us. For five months, we waited on the street, just waiting to see her antlers pop out into the streetlight. We never did. Months became years and… he just stopped coming by. We stopped hanging out. Stopped playing… stopped being friends. At least that’s what I thought. I missed him so much while thinking he was done with me, so, subconsciously, I…tried to be done with him.”

“And you jutht left each other?”

Noelle let out a sharp exhale that almost could have been a laugh. It was clear the vessel had no idea how deep that question cut. “I hate to admit it, but that’s what happened. I thought he was just listening to me cry about Dess or, maybe he didn’t feel like he was having fun any more now that our families were estranged. We haven’t had a Christmas dinner with them since. Toriel divorced Asgore not long after the disappearance, and shortly after that, he stepped down as chief of police. I think the last time I went there before all this started, I counted the pictures on their walls, and more than half of them were gone. Anything with Mr. Dreemurr in it, or my mom, and by extension anything of me or my family too. I thought that whole, happy early chapter in our lives was over and there was nothing we could do to change that, so I started moving on.”

The doe was sniffling. Vess tilted her head like an owl trying to get its bearings. “I’m getting the implication that’th not why he thtopped being part of your life, then?”
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>>82433910
“No.” Noelle wiped away a stray tear or two that had escaped her glistening eyes. “What I didn’t know was how guilty he felt. He blamed himself for it. All of it. He blamed himself for Dess going missing and meeting that… that thing we saw behind that tree that took her away. He saw Asgore leaving the force in disgrace as his fault, and the divorce that preceded it. Everything just went so bad so fast and stayed bad for so long, and Kris never stopped blaming himself for all of it. All that time I thought he didn’t want to be my friend, when really he just didn’t feel worthy of it.”

Vess had run a thousand simulations in her head. A thousand scripts all for one character in her mind, and now she could see he wasn’t reading from a single one of them. She let the silence stew between them, waiting for Noelle to talk again while the wheels spun in her head, purchasing little traction.

Before the homunculus could speak, the Doe’s brow scowled again, hardening her whole expression. “And the worst part was, he wasn’t the only one feeding the guilt. Mom was so… insidious about the whole thing, feeding him the idea more and more.”

“Did she blame him?”

“Fahah!” Vess backed up a little. Noelle laughing while clearly angry was disquieting. “It’s already hard to talk to her these days, but if she went that far, trust me, we wouldn’t be talking at all. Not that what she did do was all that great. She’d dote on him, tell him everything would be okay, hanging a promise over his head that he’d fulfill his end of the plan.”

Silver eyes squinted under a scowl that matched Noelle’s. “Tho the whole thing wath your mom’th idea?! There wath a whole plan behind thith?!”

The deer raised her hand to silence the vessel, and the latter complied. “No. I don’t know. Not everything. Not yet. There’s still some things I never asked Kris, and honestly, I don't know when I plan to do so. I don’t know everything that’s going on with you either, but Vess?”
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Meekness tamed the budding anger inside her. “Yeth?”

Noelle stood back up straight and looked the vessel in the eyes. “Kris has been through so much more than you know. We all have, but him especially. I still feel like I don’t know enough to really tell you what to do, but, please, whatever your problem is with him, whatever makes you want to take that… power inside him? Please consider what it’s done to him. What all of this has done to him.”

It was a lot to take in. All of it. She woke up that day with a villain in her mind and came away from QC’s outer wall with a broken boy forced into being a hero. Someone who meant what he said to her all those times his hand was extended. She didn’t want to believe it. She didn't know what to do with the puzzle in front of her even though she could see exactly how it all fit together.

The Holiday girl’s voice shook her out of her contemplation. “Promise me you’ll consider all this next time you and him meet, okay?”

“I-I just…”

Noelle’s phone interrupted before the vessel could answer. The deer felt the creases on her snout unfold into a light smile when she saw who was texting her.
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>>82433929
“Kris wants to know where I’m at… I was gonna meet up with him and Susie today.”

The gloom that took hold of Vess earlier that morning found her again. “Don’t let me keep you.”

Her frown was the only cloud for miles around. Noelle thought it wasn’t right letting it hang there, and set a hand on her shoulder.

“Hey.”

“Huh?”

“Promise me?”

There was warmth in that smile that outdid the sun above their heads. “O-okay.”

Without another word, Noelle walked, then jogged, then skipped to wherever her friends were inviting her over the phone pressed to her ear. Her words drifted off in spring breezes, and the birdsong and rustling of leaves returned to keep the Vessel company.

New thoughts followed her back home along with the sunlight, all the way to the stoop where she sat. The darkness inside beckoned, but for the first time, the light beckoned harder, and in its glow, she no longer felt ashamed.

[The End]
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>>82426667
>we don't do that here
Speak for yourself, nigger.
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Both
>Have buckteeth
>Kris is weird about their feet
>Have fat, desirable asses
Perhaps buckteeth just instill unnatural powers into women in the Deltarune universe
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>>82433975
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>>82433978
please do not try to equate yet another oc with a canon character, we have enough artist characters we neglect as is thank you
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>>82433939
There is folks. A little heart to heart between bucktooths.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/83623251
Here's the Ao3 link
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I will never understand the point of this character
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/sus/ raid
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>>82434001
more like fapbait character raid
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We see the times between posts, buddy
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>>82433998
At the risk of sounding potentially controversial, most contemporary /sus/ topics exist downwind of that general halfway being Jelly's own personal spitballing portfolio for literally any DR fan topic ever, regardless of how far is strays away from Susie, herself. I don't really care all that much since I still enjoy his does. You don't see many generals where a single artist has basically determined the medium quite that flawlessly besides perhaps *that* Tenna artist from /utg/, or whoever first conceived of the idea of Pippins OCs.
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>>82434027
>hanging on to two and a half year old discord screencaps from back when the OC in question was barely a year old
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>Dicksword
>Krusie fan bitching about Veth
>animeblob pfp

would it kill that place to keep its drama to in its own thread kthnxbi
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>>82434027
Guy who posted that Noelle pic above your post here

I just legit don't see what the grander appeal of the character is, nor what she does that warrants this much fanart and discussion after like the entire breadth of Chapter 2's wait time. I get there's having cool OCs for different topics but seeing so many people and artists/writers treat her as though she were canon just makes no sense to me. Makes me just wish we had Momdyne get that same degree of focus, idk
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>>82434049
Not that I dislike Veth or anything, but it seems like the soos enjoyers just really haven't gotten much of a bone to chew on with the last 2 chapters, while we comparatively have enjoyed quite a bounty of new information about Noelle and her family without even having her as a party member. It's not too surprising they are a bit more unfocused relative to /doe/ threads and focused more on generating their own content to enjoy.
>>82434079
Veth was made during the late ch 1 / early ch 2 era, I don't know what kind of crack you are smoking or if you are just a massive newfag.
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>i don't know what kind of crack you're smoking

not everybody in /doe/ orbits /sus/ or keeps tabs on their content culture you arrogant prick vethfag
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>>82434123
No one here treats her as canon. They just like her.
No one is obligated to like her. It's totally fine if you don't.
People liking her doesn't detract from like momdyne or any other AU content. I fucking love momdyne myself.
But throwing a hissy fit and spamming images as a sort of "gotcha" doesn't present good optics.
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>>82434130
>haven't gotten much of a bone to chew on with the last 2 chapters

What? The soda? Piano stuff? Susie debating Noelle over who Kris is? Susie and Gerson? Susie standing up for Darkners to Tenna? Susie in all her different costumes in TV World? Susie dunking Kris? Susie comforting Kris speculation after Chapter 4? Kris grabbing Susie at the end of the Sword Route? Bro they got a goddamn smorgasbord. I've seen two Krusie animations get over 100k likes. One-hundred thousand likes on Twitter. What on earth do you mean they haven't gotten much of a bone to chew on???
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>>82434172
They chewed through most of those already.
But if you look in the thread now, you still see them talking about those other bones you mentioned as well, particularly Kris' plan about the impending sacrifice.
I get being exhausted of certain content, but there's no reason to be disingenuous and say it's eclipsed everything else when it clearly hasn't.
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>>82434130
Chapter 3 and 4 basically "canonized" Krusie to the wider audience so much so that it's left the other two Lightner ships in the dust...
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>>82434190
Disingenuous?
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>>82434155
Many of us older /doe/ users do because we first started out in /sus/ because /utg/ was fairly hostile to Noelle content, and we were allowed to post there about Noelle in peace. I was there the day Veth was made because it was the best place to be if you liked Noelle. Perhaps it is my fault that you are ignorant of our history, but I chose now to amend this error.
>>82434172
The individual moments are cute, but you must remember that we're talking about fandom stuff here - generally things to think about is the bigger concern. Susie enjoyers have gotten more-of-the-same as it were, they have had their status quo perpetuated but that only yields so much. It is change and new ideas or interactions which bear the most fruit, which is why the wider breadth of interactions between Kris and Noelle fuel us. Grief, happiness, longing, all of that gives us much more to talk and speculate about.

I feel like once the /sus/ers get the inevitable reveal to Susie that Kris was working with the Knight, they will feast well though.
>>82434192
Personally, it felt much more like 3 had Krusie moments, but 4 leaned much more into Ralsus with the way Susie really wants to see him and the deeper emotional connection she is forging with Ralsei and even inspiring him to come out of his shell. Toby is making the effort to tease most ships in the story so far.
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>>82434170
explain to me how being unable to comprehend why a fan OCs is so overwhelmingly represented compared to a general's primary character, in a thread i check in on maybe twice a month, is somehow me throwing a hissy fit
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>/sus/fags treating disliking Veth like it's a personal attack
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>>82434217
I'm looking at that thread right now. Saying it's "overwhelmingly represented" is kinda pushing it. Most of the big conversations have centered around nervous ch 4 predictions and Kris' plan to possibly put themselves on the chopping block. Only in the more recent posts do I see Veth stuff, and most of it doesn't even show her. it's just wueen, Tenna, and Ramb,
Posting a giant string of veth images in response to her being posted at all as some sort of "See, this is what YOU look like!" is very puerile and can very much look like a hissy fit.
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>>82434244
Forgot to add
>Unless that wasn't you
Regardless, it's fine to not like this character, but the sudden falseflagging and pissy rhetoric isn't winning hearts and minds.
>>82434248
Sure
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>>82434244
i can type "Veth" in the filename field on Desuarchive and get bombarded with so much fanart that it makes me wonder if susie is even drawn more than twice a thread over there. there's liking a character, and then there's artists play thread pet and it is obvious to me no regulation on discussion or focus is going on, as otherwise it is nonsensical for a fan character to dominate the topic so thoroughly without resistance

>posting a giant string of veth images in response to her being posted at all

???
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>>82434248
Hell yeah...
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>>82434253
>but the sudden falseflagging and pissy rhetoric isn't winning hearts and minds.

fucking what falseflagging and pissy rhetoric? literally what are you talking about??
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>>82434259
>>82434271
I think he was assuming you were the guy counterspamming off-topic Veth art over Swordanon's fic.
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>>82434271
Your filter-fu must be powerful to have missed it. Someone had a bit of a spergout and posted like 12 veth images in quick succession after swordanon started posting his fic. I think the anon wrongly presumes it is you, or worded their statement poorly.
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>>82434285
so because i don't "get" the craze over a random fan character suddenly i'm a spammer?
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>>82434259
>i can type "Veth" in the filename field on Desuarchive
Aight cool. I thought we were talking about the current thread, but sure. Let's expand the scope then.
Now did you type
>susie
>Soogi
>Sooz
or any other such variation?
Because I guarantee you, you'll find way, way fucking more.
I get it if you do not like the character, but I sense your distaste has made you hypersensitive to it and overblow the "problem." No, the air is not full of peanuts. You're just allergic. No, that's not a sin, but don't think that everyone with a bag of Planters in their hands is out to get you.
>posting a giant string of veth images in response to her being posted at all
You don't see the spamstring of images after Sword posted his story?
>>82434294
This anon may be right
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>>82434299
dude i really do not care as about this debate as much as you do and already have my reservations as to why somebody would cast suspicion on a random person's morality just because they don't voice their criticisms on a character that doesn't even belong to this general. i would really prefer if you just complimented swordanon's nice story and went on our merry way with this topic already

i don't care, i don't get it, it feels forced and i don't like her. end of discussion
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>>82434317
meant to specify

>voice their criticisms on a character that doesn't even belong to this general in an overly tolerant way
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>>82434317
There it is, i guess.
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>>82434323
ok so you never gave a damn about the topic in the first place and treated the whole exchange like a sociopathic IQ test so you could "judge" if i was worth your oh-so precious time and effort, cool. totally not stuck-up behavior at all
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>>82434353
no snoot, no boop
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>>82434354
You simply aren't big brained enough to like sweaty feet and lisps and thick thighs and stirrups like we /sus/ connoisseurs.
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go convert someone else to your vessel OC circlejerk, we have our own
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>>82434244
>>82434294
>>82434299
So are you actually going to give your regards to the new fic or are you just here to defend Veth's good name and honors from being rebuffed?
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>>82434423
You just gonna huff and say "whatever bro idc nyah nyah" again?
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>>82434430
Are you actually going to compliment Swordanon's story or are you just here to get angry about Veth slander?



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