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Would it be fair to say I've improved? At the very least in colouring.

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>>82730378
Trying to get the outfit to kind of accentuate the belly a bit, this looking good so far?

>>82731417
There's more than just colouring that improved

Up

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Big fan of tentacles, any time you have a pose that just isn't working out, slap some tentacles over everything until you can't remember what was bothering you!

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>>82734482
You don't understand, it's INCREDIBLY important to the background lore of the setting that the fishrons all have navels despite hatching from eggs

I haven't drawn in a week!
Live, sluts!

>>82734767
What is the lore justification for it and don't say sex

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>>82735979
Meant to bump with content but yew no

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>>82735996
I really need to study other comics more, but every time I do I feel like I'm being pulled in a lot of different directions. I feel like I'm always overthinking and underworking things.
Simple is best. Simple is best. Simples is best. Simple is best.

Lower/Intermediate artists right here who's picking up drawing again now that first year of uni is over, Is becoming a "popular" artist online in just 2 years (ideally even less) specifically possible starting from 0?
And by popular I mean capable to get a steady Patreon/Subscribestar and a small paying audience to get some hunderds of money monthly besides other jobs.
I have more skilled and experienced mutuals than me reach it on the average of 3 years to around half a decade even when they started posted online at a superior skill level to me at the beginning, but I don't have the patience to wait many years and I just want to reach that quickly through cheating a bit.

What are some popular fandoms you recommend for this? Is drawing the most niche but still lurkative fetishes a better strategy if my art is clearly amateurish but not totally beginner-like a better path for now?

>>82736109
It's possible to win the jackpot in slots or the lottery. Will you?

Where is the urethra on a canine penis?
Some people have it on a pointy tip, while other people draw it more in the center dimple.
Maybe it doesn't matter on a stylized anthro, that may or may not have a baculum bone.

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>>82736905
I've always imagined it being the tip. I figure evolution, like it has with pretty much every other penis, made it that way so the sperm could travel as far as it can inside a vagina/uterus to ensure copulation.

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>>82731417
Aye, the improvement in both colouring and linework is visible. No major breakthroughs yet, but that can't be expected with just three months of practice; it often takes years of dedicated study to make significant strides in technical execution. Keep at it, and by year's end, you'll probably have made good progress.

>>82734767
>>82735991
NTA, but an egg still needs a mechanism to deliver nutrients to the growing occupant, and that mechanism isn't dissimilar from an umbilical cord. Birds do, in fact, also have belly buttons, it's just that we don't usually get to see much of those on account of all that fluffy plumage. Reptiles too, but it can be tricky to find among all the other dividing lines between scales.

>>82736905
The anatomically correct answer is at the tip, but fantasy cocks can be made to coom out of small openings all along their sides if you like.

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you guys have slowed down a bit.

>>82738707
Common during the spring and summer. Guess people are too busy enjoying the warm days to draw, while others struggle with hay fever fucking up their sleep.
Me, I've been on a gaming binge all week. Might show off the castle I'm building in Windrose, if I can get it built some time this century; I keep running out of stone, and unlike wood, I can't just sail the seas and pick up endless flotsam to resolve the shortage. Guess I'll have to hit up every copper and iron mine I've got fast travel bells to and when those are exhausted, run around the islands to whack every boulder I can find. Sure would be nice to put the ship's crew to work on automating this sort of drudgework, but I guess the devs never thought of that.

>>82739048
Ah always nice to take breaks. honestly it's all reasonable just the concept of the threads dying and having to be overly bumped just to keep it Alive. OP can probably rest for a minute and not feel too much pressure if not many folks are coming around.

>>82738707
Sorry...

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hey, does anyone have any recommendations on how to draw/sketch faster? im finding myself envious of everyone else seeming to be faster than me. for example, image related took about 10-15 minutes, but in the same time there were multiple sketches and colored doodles from one guy nearby me in the drawpile session i was in. should i do more gestures, confidence work, or what?

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This week has been the most satisfied ive been with my drawings in a fuckin while. I think I've just come to terms that its just going to be a lot slower than I want, that and I should just keep drawing the stupid shit I want when im feeling down.

>>82740018
Timed gesture drawings are a good bet. Timers in general kinda put a fire under your ass.

>>82740067
should i consider doing it for freehand stuff, or should enough gestures carry over the speed naturally?

>>82740140
You get good at what you do. I struggle a lot with speed myself, I've kinda just accepted I'm a slow artist. But whenever I give myself a deadline, I always hit it. Maybe giving yourself deadlines in general could be a good idea.

>>82740169
>You get good at what you do
so timers for freehand stuff (as well), correct?
>Maybe giving yourself deadlines in general could be a good idea
i might apply this at the least to my list of things i should study, ive got items as old as a february. do you have any general ranges for subjects that youve picked up on or would it just be too personalized

>>82740322
>so timers for freehand stuff (as well), correct?
Timers or deadlines if it's a multiday project, yeah.
>do you have any general ranges for subjects that youve picked up on
Everyone's different, but give yourself leeway. The answer's gonna be different depending what it is you're drawing and how big of a project it is. 15-60 minutes is a reasonable starting point for a figure drawing, ~5 for gesture.

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I waffled about all day and this is all I did 15 minutes ago because I have to get to bed on time

doodles after not drawing anything for awhile
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>>82740654
>15-60 minutes is a reasonable starting point for a figure
Depends on a few factors. A human figure drawn on paper, reasonable enough expectation. An anthro figure drawn digitally, however, could take several hours due to having to figure out proportions and anatomical quirks as you go and digital allowing you to easily waste time fine-tuning everything to perfection rather than accepting your losses and moving on.

>>82731417
Lol if this is “improvement” I’d hate to see what you consider shit.

>>82731417
Yeah it is but now you need to draw 20 realistic hands and feet so you will grasp the basics of their form

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idea

>>82748627
Looks gay are you gay

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>>82730378
I need a hot or not check on this artwork.

>>82751222
>no tails
>all human
Not

>>82751408
This, the least that could be done is the two faceless guys be sexy wolves

>promise to take challenges
>forget figuary
fuck
does mayternity have a list of prompts like inktober?

took too much weed again

>>82753642
How much? I am just about to enjoy ~200mg of RSO myself. Are you too high to draw?

>>82753688
ive never been too high to draw

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>>82753846
I read "took too much" and assumed. I don't draw very much while high but I know I drew picrel while under the influence. Looking back at it now, I think it explains the fur linework.

Up

I just ordered a switch 2 so I won’t be drawing again anytime soon.

>>82759263
One of the two games it has is a drawing game thoughever

>>82759263
draw on splatpost
never stop drawing anon

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Small comic I decided to do over my next couple days off coloring this is gonna be a bitch because im retarded.

>>82760032
Hot

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>>82735991
Just rest assured that there is a justification and it isn't just sex, it's absolutely not just because I think putting your hand there would be really really good

>>82759508
Bananza? Monkeys draw by smearing their shit on things.
>>82759538
Fuck you, nigger. I’ll stop drawing if I want!
>>82761610
It’s sex, isn’t it?

>>82761610
This anon is into cattle play he mostly lurks in /collared/ as well

>>82764054
Collared are a bunch of retards.

Anyone else get the urge to disconnect from everything and go on a training arc? Not necessarily for drawing, but just wanting to improve on something you let go to the wayside?
I feel like I've been wasting a ton of time that I don't really have anymore.

>>82765591
Same...

Bro this is fucking impossible. Im trying so hard and every thing I do looks like absolute shit. Im not expecting to be davinci right away but I actually cannot fathom how difficult it is to actually put what is in my head onto a page. Im not gonna give up but holy shit this is SO FUCKING HARD

>>82766918
Lower what's in your head to be easy to put on the page is one of the answers I came to.

>>82764243
Surely I am not retarded, right?

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we are retard

5 minute mare

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>>82770374

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You know what I never fucking figured out?
Legs
I STILL have no clue how they're meant to be shaped. Every time I draw one I feel like I'm an alien who's never seen legs
This isn't a leg it's an arm

>>82768752
Are you one of those retards who didn’t want me posting there?

>>82770843
I love OC. I never draw for the general but I honestly love writing for it every once in a while.
The more the better is what I say. I would never hate one someone who breaths life into it

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I managed to draw this seahorse, and I want to give it some color. Anyone has a guide or video on how to colour stuff digitally? I'm quite new to digital.

>>82770992
Then maybe you’re not a retard. But still, fuck that shit thread and everyone in it. Including you. And also fuck this shit thread. I hope everyone dies horribly.

>>82771238
Language!
Post your work before saying these things.
Also touch grass

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>>82764054
cattle PLAY is boring tbdesu, I just like the idea of owning magic critters which is like 60-70% in line with what /collared/ does. I spend more time on /scaly/ than anywhere else for the magic lizard posting.

>>82762574
I literally JUST told you it's not just sex anon come on, there's probably some biology happening there too (extremely sexy biology)

I mean it's probably something like anon said here >>82737205, I don't think that quite cuts it since the scarring left behind by the detached yolk looks pretty different from what I can tell and these guys have weird soft-shelled eggs.

They didn't have them originally when I was workshopping the design, but I've sorta been adding more and more mammalian features to them over time. I don't really want to get rid of the eggs since they're at least superficially related to dragons, plus that's cute too so they're just going to have to be genetic freaks of un-nature. Don't think about it too hard, just touch soft fishron belly

>>82736109
there are a couple levels to it that are not just merely luck. Its more like a time-bomb and your macro decisions will carry you the most.

Just some things of note that you should do if youre just starting are posting to algorithm unbias sites (e621/boorus, reddit, even other 4chan boards) and frequently interacting with other artists, especially ones just slightly larger than you since they can help a lot. Those are the two ideas that come to mind immediately anyways. You can make the most genius interpretation of a meme, or the greatest artwork or animation of the month, but if no eyes see it, it means nothing. Also, dont draw things you dont have a passion for, it shows in the art and will also hurt engagement.

As for the timeline, it all depends on you. Can you make consistent high quality work and be consistent in your engagement patterns across sites and platforms? If so, it can take less than a year for massive success. TurboRenegade comes to mind immediately. About one year ago, he had just started posting blender animations and doing his silly bass boosted meme guy at around 7k followers. Additionally, I remember Bradett crashing out on my timeline frequently at 1k followers until one high effort animation later had tripled their following count. Turbo coming to mind also brings up another point: The style in Turbos animations are extremely distinct and pleasing, all to say you should probably be bringing something in stylistically for people to enjoy as well.

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>>82736109
pyw

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>10
>>82771424
I mean come on, you kinda wanna touch it right

>>82771352
I won’t post my work here. Fuck you and your grass, faggot.

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>>82736109
As your lower/Intermediate "Popular" senior I believe 2 years is completely enough time

Also spent my time today with this as practice.

>>82771677
I don't have anything to post or say but I want to bump so nice 67!

my dumbass still does multi hour sessions for art. I genuinely cant stop once i go. I'm on my second session of the day.

>>82771597
You should probably give examples of non-animators. Animation is kind of the uber easy path

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>>82770380
Nice

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>>82730378
First drawing in a while. What do you think of it? I want to rendermaxx.

>>82775397
I like your general stylization and have high hopes for where it will take you when you get more years under your belt

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can't wrap my head around it

>>82773717
>pic
kinda curious about what did with the model

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>>82776706
I took pictures of the models in the angle I want and pretty much just constructed the pose freehand utilizing it's assistance

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>>82776706
And the sort of reasoning here

>>82776731
kind of forgot that there were (probably many) freely available models of basic figures for that purpose, i thought you just did some modeling stuff, or at least fumbled through blender or something to mock something with primitives

>>82776886
Oh no no no no no, if I ever did that I'd probably just start getting into 3d animation. Maybe one day I will, but that sounds like a pain in the ass.

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I don't draw and made this. I just downloaded a program for ANSI art. Did I do good? It's supossed to be a forest at night.

>>82775644
Thanks. Though, I have been drawing for half a decade already, albeit very intermittently. There are weeks in a year where I draw a ton, but there are also months in a year where I don't draw at all. Consistency is the most difficult thing.
If I start a drawing, it needs to 'hook' me in order to try to finish it. Most of the time, though, this doesn't happen. So I just stop after a few shapes.

>>82736109
>What are some popular fandoms you recommend for this?
You've got to hop around big bandwagon fandoms as they come in and out of relevance. That's a big growth strategy. Somewhat counterintuitively, this can also help when you want to do more original characters and stories and whatnot, because the audience that stays with you through the fandom hopping is there for your art, not just the subject matter.

>>82777923
I think it looks pretty good, but I feel like those trunks should be thinner relative to the size of those tree canopies.

Today I will draw... Furry degeneracy
Very original I know

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Have mixed opinions on the minimalist art style I seem to be developing. It doesn't look much like the stuff I like, but it looks okay on its own.

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I need as much info as you can possibly give on butts. I don’t understand how you make them look real.

Also, what should the ratio between butt to torso be?

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I will stop procrastinating now after this Umbreon

Im thinking that maybe this isnt the right thread for me. I want to draw martial arts characters and witches and wizards and stuff but this thread seems like mostly furries drawing horny furry stuff

>>82785043
Be the change you want to see

>>82785043
Just draw your fucking dumbass
Change starts when someone is leading it

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>>82785043
>publicly available, easily accessible, very populated art critique board that favors sfw content
>vs
>hidden board, where all porn and furry degeneracy is dumped, sharing space with 50 different racial porn, vore and scat threads, barely anyone posts, constantly 404, pseudo general on the asshole of the website
Legit kind of impressed if you posted without any sarcasm at all.

>>82785578
>art critique board
[citation, and I can't stress enough, needed]

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>>82785043
Perverts often give excellent advice.
I'm not a furry and I don't draw porn, but I've found a neat place here.

>>82785645
>Artwork/ >>>>>>>>>Critique<<<<<<<<<<<
>Where is the heckin science??
I seriously hope this is all just a jape for some attention you're not getting from your art.
If not, DAMN.

>>82785043
>seeks out the art thread in the furry board
>"wtf? Why are you people drawing furshit?"
Are you retarded? There's a specific board on this very site for art and it forbids furry art there.

Need some tech tips. I use csp.

What's the most efficient way to render a piece with different shapes.
I once saw an artist masking every pec and muscle on the Hulk so that he could render the lighting on them individually without interfering with adjacent areas.

But the setup for this seems cumbersome. Any ideas on how to streamline this?

Is drawabox actually worth going through? I usually hang around /ic/. I didn't even know trash had a board

>>82786910
If you get filtered by drawing a few boxes a day for a month, i pray when you come across drawing literally anything else that is more complex.

>>82786910
Some folks in here would say no, others will say yes. Base your opinions on who artistically is closer to your end goal (Ask to see their work)

I am of an opinion that drawabox is great for gathering fundamental skill, but understanding fundamental skills is not in and of itself "Good drawing" It's more a shortcut/toolbox that gives you an easier time doing all the hard things beyond the fundamentals.

A human being or a car isn't just a bunch forms, you can break it down to make it simpler, but like what makes anything look good or correct is rarely just the ability to draw the forms, but place then in the correct combination and distance from one another. to create an appealing whole.

Drawing high for the first time. I normally don't do anything strenuous when under the influence, but HOW THE FUCK DOES ANYONE DO THIS?! none of my lines are straight, if i look too long at forms or shapes it starts to feel like the object slowly becomes more abstract and it's hard to gauge it on a 3d plane, i get caught in mindloops. Seriously. Why the fuck would anyone do this. Art is already stressful, and i feel like im drawing on nightmare mode.

>>82787329
As an alcoholic I can't really speak on this but I tend to redraw it while sober when I really hate the end result
But most of the time I have the construction so the hard part already done and can get comfortably hammerd when I already know what it looks like
Works every time. But not sure how weed alters my mind during a creative process

>>82782505
If you don't like it personally then you should change it, that's like the entire point of art in general anon. It doesn't matter if it looks okay from a technical standpoint or if it's aesthetically inoffensive to other people, none of that matters. Your style is about YOU and you alone, if you don't like it then you owe it to yourself to change it.

>>82786652
That depends on how hard you're going into the rendering. Personally a hard round or hard flat brush is about as far as I ever go. Get in close and you won't have to do much/any masking. Putting your flats on different layers that you can paint over and/or using masks helps keep your edges hard too.

>>82786910
To save you from reading 9000 word arguments, yes. It is very good at doing what it's designed to do, which is to give brand new and novice artists a basic grasp of the concepts of form and perspective. It will not in fact make you a master artist in 3 months, which is which is what draws most of the hate for it.

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>>82786910
I think majority of the problem is what >>82787913 stated. People assume that DAB is the end all be all and have you achieve general drawing mastery.

It's like assuming that if you get taught how to hammer a nail or cut and join would, you'll automatically know how to build a house.

>>82785898
>in the furry board
It's also a hidden board? Can I get a link so I can stop using this nigger infested normie/cancer hellhole?

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hello, local box detractor again
>>82787913
>give brand new and novice artists a basic grasp of the concepts of form and perspective
>grasp
>perspective
that is a blatant lie. it shows nothing and assumes you’ll stumble into success. it’s, at best, basic bitch exercise for someone who already knows how perspective works. nowhere does it explain that random points don’t make a sound projection
furthermore, albeit this is a personal preference, box scaffolding is imaginary and harder to pick up. at least loomis centerline is on the skull

>>82788466
why do you hate boxes

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>>82788466
The later half of lesson 1 goes in depth enough for a beginner to to be overwhelm comparative to something like Scott Robertson How to draw. I don't know what you're talking about schizoanon,
maybe you're working with Old info? I know at a point he redid a lot of things.

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>>82786910
yes. and it shouldn't take you too long. I completed it within a 6 month period if you're doing it daily. The goal isn't to teach you how to draw, just to teach you how to learn how to draw. Since my experience and background is music, it's like learning how to read music, chords, scales whatever. Will it teach you how to make music? not really, will it help you? certainly.
Also for all the talk i see on /ic/ about drawabox, im surprised people miss the first lesson 0 page which the guy says that the lesson will not make you a better at drawing dragons or whatever and you need to spend 50% of your time drawing stuff for fun.

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It's been a long time since I've even attempted a background. This is a bit lousy, but it's a start, I think.

>>82786910
If you're starting from nothing the first part of the first section is fine. No the 300 million box meme is just that, a meme. Once you feel okay with lines you can drop it and do whatever you want.

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I'm slowly getting better, shame about the line on it's back, I can't really fix or hide that mistake.

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>>82788600
so i’ve read through all of lesson 1, not just the exercise. hope you’re happy. and it’s as tragic as i expected. as an aside, everyone who participates in the font-weight:300 conspiracy ought to be round up and shot to venus
it is full of these moments where it sort of starts to set up to explain something and then next paragraph begins
take for example the placing of vanishing points against the frame. oh it doesn’t have to be in center? that’s absolutely true. are we gonna find out what happens then? no. next topic
the word foreshortening is firehosed all over. there is an overhead diagram. why not use it to show why foreshortening happens. nope
and the baseless accusation that rectilinear is somehow distorted. the distortion comes from image covering a different field of view, not the projection itself
dab is like a sponge. the shape is there, but it’s still porous and can soak up all the wrong assumptions one has
>>82788543
i’m writing my own training book and need to sabotage the competition

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Hey guys, I need a little bit of help. (and it's a bit of a stupid question.)
So there's an artist I follow, and I saw that they animated their stills with the new animation features from Clip Studio Paint.
https://catbox.moe/c/271utj

It looks like you can do actual puppet animations on CSP, but as someone who's a totaI noob at CSP, i don't have a single fucking clue on how to replicate this.
I did reached to the artist about this, but they couldn't share the .clip file for personal reasons and, no offense to the artist, they're absolutely terrible on responding; so a demonstration was out of the question.

Can anyone figure out how they did this within program? I tried searching for a fresh tutorial YouTube and it's just stuff from 1 to 5 years ago, fucking worthless.

>>82787329
>Art is already stressful
Only if you're a twittertard

How the fuck do I use twitter lmao, should I just start spamposting bullshit or should I be like following people and grinding and shit

>>82791992
Depends what's your purpose, whats your fandom and whats your fetish?

>>82785043
It’s a pretty shit community here, anyway. Same for /ic/. Go join a nice discord server.

>>82792270
you should definitely do that as well anon, have fun on discord!

>>82792270
What about /dig/ is shitty

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>>82730378

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holding whip

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>>82782718
Thoughts?

>>82776908
>Maybe one day I will, but that sounds like a pain in the ass.
the basics aren't as bad as you'd think but once you're past that it's going to fuck you up, can confirm
>>82798271
saw this in another thread, good stuff. i wasn't sure if this was a 3d render or not at first but i like it

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Drew a Hibanii, felt like doing something cute and sfw for once

>>82784286
>>82747901
Anon please feed them

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currently completely devoid of energy

>>82799273
Everyone is saying they are thin but they never explain why

>>82799555
limbs are a bit too thin and look skeletal instead of meaty, might be because they are pretty angular, use softer, rounder lines

>>82799585
Thank you

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>>82799679
I'm not a good redliner but this is just an incredibly simplified guide of thickness, doesn't have to be that huge if you don't like it but you should still add some thickness to the limbs. Your general body shapes are not bad, ass is pretty good. It's bit harder on your side since you are drawing traditional

>>82799209
>i wasn't sure if this was a 3d render or not at first but i like it
Thank you. It's 2d.

>>82799255
CUTE

I just jerked it to my own art. I've fucking ASCENDED.

>>82731483
It looks so soft

>>82751222
I can see the vision

>>82799974
I see I see. I don't like the size of the feet so I keep them smaller for next drawing.
Why is the nose wrong?
>It's bit harder on your side since you are drawing traditional
I never got that sentiment, I treat an eraser like it's Ctrl+z and chew through them very quickly

>>82804279
nose is fine don't worry about it

>>82798271
Something doesn't sit right about the front legs, they look way too stubby. Should be bent or stretched forward. Shadow on the floor lacks the moon sized ass. I think right back leg should go like 7 o'clock.
That rendering though, hot damn.

>>82804866
Nta, I agree, the front legs are stubby, but it puts her in a permanent ass-up face-down position, which is a-ok in my book.

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After literal years of struggling with detailed anatomy I've given up and switched to drawing toony stuff.

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>>82799974
>>82804279
i think i might play defense on this one, since end parts of legs are for mostly bones, joints, tendons (malnourishment is determined from ribcage). you could make the point to make them fluffy though
that said, one thing to note would be the ‘foot’ bit should be a lot shorter

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>>82804866
>>82804953
The butt heavy design was definitely intentional, although I'm not sure if the execution was optimal.
I was inspired by designs like picrel. I still feel like I'm missing something.

I've turned art into a chore. I mostly do boring fundamentals study despite having hundreds of personal studies I'd like to go through but i feel like I'm "not ready" to go through them. How do i combat this feeling?

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>>82787913
>if you don't like it then you owe it to yourself to change it.
I've been studying.
I have not been succeeding.
My inspirations are some very good artists, and aspirations are very high.
Pic very rel.

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I suppose this Kuromi lineart is OKAY, but I think I could make it better. Maybe it's just my typical paranoia, but it comes across as a touch flat and stiff. Any ideas how to liven it up, with the same general post and concept?

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page 9 bump

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I cant believe how much time I took to color and and shade like half of this so far. At least I seem to have found a brush that I really like using for lineart now.

A big thread

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idk

>>82816915
me gusta

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>>82811283

Remember to draw in your sketchbook anons.

>>82799424
good lord keep at it

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drew a dinololi to make some people seethe, might as well drop it here

>>82809788
looks pretty good, you could try spreading her legs for more "content" but it looks nice as is.

>>82820495
Make more people seethe please.

>>82820495
I'm seething so hard my eyes are in tears ToT

>>82820495
Currently punching drywall because of this post

>>82770518
arm and legs have very similar structures doe, just rotated and slightly altered

deltoids to glutes
quads to triceps
etc. etc.

>>82776370
stick with trying to understand the boxes in the diagram before complicating your forms

>>82785043
posing and composition for martial arts has a lot in common with drawing porn. take grappling for instance. lots of interlocking forms and contrasting dynamic gestures

>>82787329
sounds like whatever you're high on is making you more sensitive to your internal state of being, which takes up the mental bandwidth due to cerebral focus which is the antithesis of a flow state, which is almost more akin to falling asleep

>>82809788
i'd say it looks pretty good
if you want to exaggerate the pose you could bend her knee a bit more, but other than that i'd just move on to shading to create the sense of depth

>>82822662
why, put that effort into jerking off

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>>82730378

>>82824075
What does value variation mean?i think >>82798271 looks kinda boring and want to edit it.

looks like shit

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>>82818596
Trying some warm lighting

>>82825739
don't make your shadows so desaturated, now it looks like a blighted potato

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>>82825921
Looks much better already, thanks.

>>82824075
I don't know how to turn off white filter layer