CYOA Refuge Thread - A thread for posting any and all CYOAs unpostable in /tg/'s /cyoag/ (and occasionally ones that aren't).Previous thread:https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/82650533Alternative link:>https://archived.moe/trash/82650533Worksafe threads:>>>/tg/cyoa/cyoag/'s CYOA archives and related resources:>https://rentry.co/cyoagIncludes - but is not limited to - a F.A.Q. section and the personal archives of a number of authors.>https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3An extensive Allsync archive that has both SFW and NSFW CYOAs.>https://infaera.neocities.org/Interactives list.If you're looking for a specific CYOA, it's suggested that you check those first.And remember: Postnumbers aren't for rolling. If the CYOA calls for rolling of any sort (or you just feel like leaving something up to fate), use random.org (or https://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm, or physical dice, or something else that isn't your postnumber) to generate the number, and write it in the post with the rest of your build.In short: Do the rolling before you post, instead of observing the postnumber you get.
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>>82739482Make a build for this cyoa if you wish you were a catgirl or want to kill yourself.
RememberYou will never be a girl :)
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>>82740402>Fugue DeliriumNot-vague versionBetter than locked in because she can struggle a bit>PerksPerfectionDolphin JuiceHer Body Says YesI think Dolphin Juice and HBSY have the best synergyIf I had an extra pick, not sure if I'd pick Ovulating or Extra Time
This is a decent, short CYOA, but I still don't get what the author was thinking. Did he think that 6 minutes was so short that people would have to rush through it? Was he ESL
>>82740593>Twins>10 ThingsIt was tempting to take the 15 and go on isekai adventures, but being the best at 10 things is crazy
>>82740536>she can struggle a bityou scare me a bitbased
>>82740402>>82740644I think the option there really shows who sees it as a rape fantasy versus a free use fantasy
>>82740913>RoomBathtub>SoapBlue to start>PartnerBathing girlI'm going to break this brat>ItemsDuck (free with bathtub)Amazing goo (for foreplay)Sensitivity lotion (for sex)
Today, my spreadsheet chose a Christmas genies to share with you. But it isn't July yet, so I posted this one instead.
>>82740402Definitely locked in + her body says yes. I like the mental aspect of her body betraying her. After that, probably Extra Time and Little Helpers. ... and then it's a tough choice, but I think I'll go against Dolphin Juice and more extra time and go for Ovulating instead.
>>82740402Fugue Delerium (non vague - anon is right about the struggling)Dolphin Juice, Ovulating, and Her Body Says YesOvulating to give her a permanent little reminder of why you pay your debts (happy Mothers Day!). I wish the toggle for Delerium fixed the short term memory issue - HBSY requires a little more continuity than a few seconds to really land the body betrayal aspect. Not a deal breaker, though.
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What happened to Clean-Algae?
>>82744419what?
>>827405932 twins, and 24, that one is busted because it just gives you all the options above. Hell, coupled with re-picking twins every month, you can not only create a harem, you can actually create a full blown company or an army to do your bidding.And he obviously follows the numbers, dude. Top options are 1-5, you get 6 minutes to decide, doesn't seem that complicated.
>>82739466Today is Maid 's Day, can I have maid cyoas please?>>82744644A cyoa author I think, name is vaguely familiar
>>82740593Without picking 24, 2 Twins seems to be the best of the top row. I could see 4 Body Oddy Oddies getting some traction with someone who's sickly or cares for someone who is. Of the second row, there can be a good argument made for each of them. The strongest being 10 and 24, 15 gets honorable mention.If nothing on the top row was particularly appealing nor are you that adventurous, 10 shines. If you want maximum mileage from something in the top row, 24. 15 gives you your adventures, might be able to toy with it depending on how time is measured via time dilation/different day durations.>2 Twins and 10.
>>82746252>Today is Maid 's Day, can I have maid cyoas please?Don't say that out loud! Are you trying to summon her?!
>Maid's Day
>>82747521I pay them to be gay. You've been outbit.
>>82747643...why does that maid have a pacifier in her mouth
>>82747672She needs something to suck on. It's why she's acquiring a backup in this image, just in case.
Remember, you will never be a girl :)
Remember, you will never be a boy :)
>>82749308I'd love to see a modern, larger, more involved version of this one.
>>82747432As long as your maids are boys she won't bother you,
>>82749420>420
>>82747672She’s at a rave
>>82747672Apparently it's a moe thingCreeps me the fuck out.
>>82750251Unts unts unts unts
It just occurred to me that Daughter Summoner is somewhat relevant to Mother's Day.
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DLC is almost done. Halfway through painting the 'hooks', just got those and the new maid combos to go. Also I'm remembering how to paint again. >>82752232
>>82740913I'll grab bathtub (I haven't had a true bath in a while and I'm sick of showers), green soap, cheerleader, shaver and aerogel (I've probably swallowed too much plastic over my life).
>>82752215art ugly = me no play
any cyoas where you create a species? the thought came to me, so i assume it's been done before.
>>82754577wait I'm sorry I feel bad about what I said I didn't mean it :(
>>82743506>I wish the toggle for Delerium fixed the short term memory issueSame, I just want her to be able to weakly move and bit and be panicked. >>82747672The artist's self-admitted fetish
Happy Mother's Day
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Starting to workshop out some OC. Basically, a CYOA that is about you finding a 12-leaf clover and gaining super luck aura. The CYOA is about shaping its abilities and powers.
>>82755697Sounds kinda cool. Any unique mechanics or is it a pick 12 powers kind of thing?
>>82755901Thinking of doing it kind of skill-tree style. Safety, Lewds, and Power (money/influence) are the categories. Probably a 7-point game mode with perk, 12-point default, and one that’s based on stuff you’ve done IRL
Hows that new cyoa you're working on coming anon?
>>82756142*looks two posts up*Slowly inching closer to completion
>>82754604yes.This isn't it though, I probably have it saved but can't remember name. Also, there's the one I didn't save. Also, tentacle realm.
>>82756142Almost done writing it, it's only taken this long because I'm lazy and easily distracted
wake up
https://imgchest.com/p/lqye3m9x4dnNeed more maids while its still maid day
Bump
Could you do a second edition of the choose your adventure?
Could you do another second edition of the choose your adventure?
https://strawpoll.com/mpnb18RNby5
>>82754604>>82756673I can think of Rental Retainer, but it's a bit on the complex sidebase game: https://imgur.com/a/rental-retainers-cyoa-ch-1-gestalt-1-4-3-JbxBPM8Frontier DLC: https://imgur.com/a/rental-retainers-cyoa-ch-1-5-frontier-dlc-complete-xXpxJ3n
>>82754604Humanity's Last Fucking Change allow you to modify human species(1/6)
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>>82759081Y'know, this cyoa wouldn't be half bad if you could just be a tireless maidbot.
>>82760365Yeah, that's the one I didn't save. Meanwhile, this is the one I saved, and I just remembered the name of it.
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>>82760273Still waiting for the next expansion
>>82754604>any cyoas where you create a species? the thought came to me, so i assume it's been done before.Xenos by Highlander. Or maybe Fairy Gardener by KoboldAnon - although its more about building and populating a pocket dimension.
>>82760605But maids are so much cuter when they bleed.
>>82762023are they ok
>>82762035no
>>82762038:(
>>82760170Closed already?
>>82760923I’ve got Schrade on Discord, I can ask him about it if you want.
>>82762640cringe
>>82740913>BathtubI want to enjoy a proper bath, I hardly ever get those>GreenI'm an older guy, I value being in the right frame of mind>FutaHey, I want to give and take. >Goo and LotionSame as what >>82740949 said.
>>82754604Lusus Naturae comes to mind. I made a rapeworm, among other things.
>>82762035The title is "My lady, again?" so I guess it depends whether you read it as "it's a nightmare to get blood out of their clothes when you do this!" or "I'm going to have to order another fucking crate full of maids tomorrow".
>>82763640Caption says "Oneesama, again?" But title is "Nameless Child"
>>82760365This CYOA is more authentic than you'd think because female aliens irl also want to be impregnated by humans, due to our incredibly special DNA.
>>82765440They just say that to get you to go along with them. They aren't looking for DNA, just a good time with some... probing.
>>82754971>99% of the cyoa: waifu maker>last option: be a creator god
>>82766363the probe rape aliens all got eaten by me you don't have to worry about them anymore lil bro
>>82766414>reddit garbage >looks inside >its garbage
>>82766414Bro it opens up with cisgender/transgender trash. Did you actually expect anything good out of it?
>>82765440That's just Reptilians making infiltrators. Benevolent aliens like the Lyrans don't do that.
>>82766414it's a trans cyoa what did you expect
>>82768195I have no idea what being trans has to do with becoming god, unless we're trying to evoke the divine hermaphrodite or something here.
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Is Apo still active?
>>82768701That is literally not what my reply is even about.
Working on wording for the Luck Aura CYOA. Thinking of basing a lot of it on the word Reroll. Basically, any time an applicable random thing happens, the chances are figured twice for outcomes and you get the most desired of the two.So if you flip a coin and call heads, then heads has a 75% chance of happening (50% twice). If you make a bet on a 10% occurrence happening, you have about a 19% chance of winning.Thinking if this wording is good or not
>>82769003Is this going to be delivered by a cute narrator or just in plain mechanics text?
>>82769054>Cute girl personification of your luck narratorCan i fuck my luck?
>>82769512Lady Luck (goddess Fortuna) is a thing.
>>82769512Well you could, but then your luck would be fucked. And you're gonna need more than a bunch of four leaf clovers to unfuck it.
>>82769054Haven’t decided yet. Doing this one mechanics-first since my last one was the other way around and kind of got roasted for it (the text-only Genie’s Wishes)
>>82770759but will i be a dragon?
>>82770781Hah! You could never be a dragon.
>>82770835Aha! I *will* never be a girl, but I *could* never be a dragon. So you're saying there's a chance...
>>82771840It really is kinda a cheap version
>>82771840Having a Pokemon in a world without Pokemon is less interesting, so I'm sticking to the waifus.>PokegirlsFlannery, Nessa, Skyla, ElesaI'd pick them anyway, so the great powers are just a plus>NPCsAce Trainer (Power and Girl), Lady (Power and Girl)The no material needs part of the Ace Trainer powerset isn't that interesting to me, but the no refractory period is a no brainer considering I have a 6 girl harem.I don't really need to seduce anyone (but being able to is still great), so the main reason I picked Lady is to have better sex.Breeder would have been nice, but I can't afford it.
>>82771840Gardenia + Tsareena + 17 Rocket grunts
>>82771840Korrina, being on peak human level is good.Skyla, because flying is fun.Ace Trainer + extra, the perk kind of makes Korrina's perk redundant but I think I'm still gonna need it. And she removes refractory period, so that's good too.Lady, charisma opens up a lot of opportunities. If it so happens that I want to expand my harem, it's gonna be a breeze.Breeder + extra, so that's another fine opportunity to expand my harem. Gonna make one of the breeders a flattie and one of them a titcow.Rocket Grunt + 2 extras, so nobody's gonna whine about my harem. And this gives me the power to change breast sizes, AND the combo of huge dick+magical stretching, so like, almost all of my fetishes are covered.10 girls, but I'm gonna handle them. Don't need any pokeymans.Swimmer's perk seems to be rather weak, huh. Wonder if anybody's gonna pick her.
>>82756142It's getting there, but drawing hands is hard.
>>82774601>Sory hooks are optionalI'm not sory they are optional, it would be a bit much if they were mandatory. (But I am sorry for the dumb pun)
>>82776116No
>>82776210>no option to combine The Monster and Tentacles to turn my bed into a large monster who lets me sleep inside its belly
>>82776210>I'll go with 9 hours of sleep - just a touch more than the standard 81. Blink2. The Gift of Dreams3. Beauty Sleep4. Succubus Essence5. Lulling Harp6. A Hard Day's Work7. Knight of Nights - This feels like it kinda nullifies TGOD8. Maid9. Chamomile?
>>82777293>gifrel
>>82778499Remember, You will ALWAYS be a faggot! :)
>>82768173>Virgin Cuckquean in a Lamp>Typecast>Christmas CakesI'll go for the genie first thing. Then I'll slap her in a chastity belt.I think the scenario described in Typecast is really hot but ironically Diana is not really my type. Guess that's irrelevant as she'll just change into my type eventually anyway.Lastly I'll take Christmas Cakes for unlimited waifu but paced so I don't get overwhelmed like Artistic Expression would. Christmas Cakes also gives more control over the details of the waifu before they come to life.
'Ultimate Custom Monster Companion' a waifu builder from reddit: https://chuckeroo.neocities.org/ucmcCYOA/Minor interesting thing is that the girls you pick comments on and has preferences regarding the choices (affects point costs). Are their any other CYOA with that kind of gimmick?
>>82780715Squirmed through it, pretty nice stuff. I'm not too much into waifu builder unless I'm playing with someone else, so I like the restrictions. Almost want to make a build for each of the character, and have them as an adventurer party.
>>82780715I've seen some where girls have mechanical interactions with specific choices, but usually in waifu builders and the specifics of those tend to slip from my mind.
>>82780715>CYOA vehemently denies the possibility for loliguess i got filtered
>that BTG CYOA I've forgot the name of.jpg
>>82783188>''Lose'' the waifubowl>Yuri harem the rest of the losers
>>82783290I regret to inform you that you specifically have been signed up for an otome scenario (villainess rival not included)
hnnng hetslop
>>82783329NTA but hot. Imagine having to deal with suddenly being a (straight, or soon to be) girl while also being constantly wooed in a dozen different flavors of hot anime boys. You'd be too overwhelmed by the newness and overstimulation of all these strange, new feelings to even think of resisting...
>>82783329FUCK
Are you fags genuinely fetishising normal, straight romance as if it's some niche kink?
>>82783188Being bisexual has its perks you know.
>>82783679i think they are just going Hwaaaaah~ at romantic stuff anon.
>>82783679i just love hot anime guys. the niche kinky shit i'm going to do to them will come after.
>>82783679This is a tranny general. they're literally posting reddit cyoasThey really are like a fucking invasive species for every online hobby there is. I might put tranny lynching in my cyoa just to repel them.
>>82783903Romance is the absolute best desu.
>>82783991boy you sure picked a great beneral to be triggered by trannies in lmao
>>82780715>all those gay/vore optionsVery based, thank you anon.
>>82760273This is some really good shit.Thanks for posting it.There is one unclear rule though.I am going to operate on the assumption that the DLC tokens can be used to pay "Any" costs.Otherwise i would never be able to use up ten of them.-----Chimera School: 10C 8W 6H 4M 2B 10F>Human MaleStarting from my own body.>Chimera Extract (Hands, Fused) -2C>Catgirl>Gene Therapy (Skin) -1Any>Awaken -2BRestores my fertility, protects me from mindrape, and who doesn't like cat ears?Fully dexterous human hands with retractable cat's claws is the best of all worlds.Everything else is getting overwritten later, but de-pelting myself costs a point>Valkyre>Magical Infusion (Immortality C) -2W>Magical Infusion (Immortality B) -3WBest way to live forever. Pheonix is slightly stronger but corrupted to hell.>Gene Therapy (Back) -1 Any>ArachnoidALL OF THE ARMS!Stacks with my high quality hands and i can keep the wings>Scylla>Gene Therapy (Sex) -1 Any>Human Vagina -1H>Chimera Extract (Sex, Fused) -2C>Tentacle Penis -3FI really want octopus legs for climbing mobility, and the stealth bonuses are great, but i REFUSE to have a cloaca.While i am at it, i might as well craft a vagina full of little feelers that move around inside.Could have awakened Death Knell or Evil Eye with those points, but honestly they are liabilities.>Illegal Fusion -2C -2W -2H -2M -2B(Converted: -4 Any)>Abyssal>Primal Awakening -2B(Converted: -4 Any)>Chimera Extract (Head, Fused) -2C>Gills -1FHuge number of useful genes for the more arcane sort of mage.Cant believe that neither abyssals not scylla come with gills.>Gene: Medicinal Secretions -3FI like being a healslut.Total Spent: 8C 7W 3H 2M 2B 7F 11AnyAll adds up!
>>82785340Final Form:>Head 1 - Cat Ears>Head 2 - Three Eyes>Head 3 - (Fused) Asperative Tentacle Hair>Arms - (Compound) Human, with a Second Pair>Hands - (Fused) Retractable Claws>Legs - (Corrupt) Octopus Legs>Sex - (Fused) Tentacle Vagina>Tail - (Corrupt) Octopus Legs>Back - (Compound) Bird Wings, and a Third Pair of Arms>Skin - (Compound) Smooth, with Chitin Plaiting on the backAn *EXCELLENT* chimeric aberration!___Disposition:Sharp and Loyal___Inherent Genes:>Breedability>Resurrection Gene>Elastic Form>Web Generation>Foreign Comprehension>Transcendence>Mental Resistance15 Gene Slots:>Instincts A>Heightened Reflexes8 Tentacle Legs, 6 Arms/Hands, 2 Wings, Tentacle Hair... 30 total limbs...I would be non-functional without the instincts to coordinate all this.Instead i move with grace, speed, and precision.>Immortality A>Regeneration C>Medicinal SecretionsDeath is bad. Duh.>Magic A+>Warp Gene>Foreign GeneEverything i need to learn strong magics.>Transform C>Camoflauge>Illusion CloakI hide good...>Perception B+>Heightened Senses+>Echolocation>ScenthoundAnd nothing hides from me___Perk Slots:9 General15 Human12 Beast11 Monster6 Chimera1 WitchNot really the amount of Magic i want, but i can use my generals, and i am sure there are other options in part 2.>>82760923I found part 2 with a moment's googlinghttps://imgchest.com/p/vj4jkkz578mIs this the next expansion you have been waiting for?I'll get to it tomorrow probably.
>>82784782It's different. Our trannies are fetishists, their trannies are mentally ill.It's the difference between a trap crossdresser and a stereotypical western faggot. You wouldn't understand.
We might as well just rename this general to BTG rather then CYOAR
>>82785697>Two CYOAs out of a dozen have btg content in this thread>Anon loses his mind
>>82785611>Our sensible, perfect, trans ANGELS>Their insane, disgusting trans DEMONS
I'm just wondering why you'd want to have a "trans" option in your cyoa rather than a dickgirl option, if you really want to be a girl with a dick.if I were a tranny who didn't want to cut off my dick, surely I'd want to just be a woman, with a dick, not a tranny.
>>82786028>2 out of 12 Cyoas are fully focused on scat>Why are people complaining?
>>82786229The CYOA has it as an option for you waifu, not for you. So it's not targeted at trannies, but at chasers, people who want to fuck them.
>>82786256I mean yeah that's actually equally as valid. You walk into a general use CYOA thread, see a CYOA about something you don't like, and you cry. That's not really logical, mature behavior no matter what fetish it is.
>>827405931 minute and 4 seconds according to the stop watch.
>>82783188I see no problem with that prompt.Then again I thought Stupid Girl Feeling was a fun thought experiment so the horror is lost on me.
>>82783329As we all know, villainesses are SLUTS for heroines. Anon will be fine.
>>82785611Nobody can understand your mental illness.
Unironically. It's a crocodile/alligator situation but there are subtypes of trannies. Both "Old internet" and Perverts are low cortisol, confident, and beloved by all for their wacky character.wheras modern reddit types are insecure, catty, melodramatic, invasive, ugly, """moral""", and uptight, feel an inexplicable urge to groom children and the vulnerable, generally unpleasant, political, have 3 other mental illnesses, are emotional, permanent victims, pathetic, non-respectable, bad faith, obnoxious, 'Win' arguments through guilt, pity and antagonism. are either malicious or identify themselves a "softy" that breaks down in everyday situations and think it's cute. invasive (emphasis), subversive, loud, standoffish, have a poor theory of mind. And most importantly, every community that hosts them (willingly or otherwise) experiences a sharp decrease in qualityBesides somewhat disliking them personally, it's important to quality control a community. At minimum have the self respect to not merge with fucking reddit and act like nothing is wrong. This is a serious problem!
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>>82783188Absolutely.i am straight not because dicks are unpleasent but because anal is bad, frotting is pointless, and oral is not enough to go on by itself.If i had the physiology to properly interact with a penis, i would.
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>>82787480Hence why one is not included in anon's scenario
>>82788244He just have to romance the sister/mother of a capture target.
>>82788067He's right, you know
>>82788444>HeAny unhinged whining about reddit is probably just Tok, and Tok is never right.
>>82788067reddit cyoas give me gay and vore options that arent just "pick futa and flat chest" so they're based
i lost all the gay / husbando cyoas i saved, i bleed
>>82788067>insecure, catty, melodramatic, invasive, ugly>subversive, loud, standoffishSound like you're describing the "oldfag" trannies there, to be honest. They also tend to lack any shame and love to shitpost about their fetish and erp even outside of /trash/.Also applies to furries, now that I think about it.
>>82788727All four of them ?!
>>82788775i know, right?
>>82788492>Only tok rates reddit>On 4chan of all places Lurk 10000 years before posting
>>82783329These boys all would look great in a dress so I can accept that fate
I crave for lewd chinkslop cyoas
>>82789258Same, I want to cultivate the dao of being a smug loli.
Its due time for a new futa cyoa
>>82788727Damn, I can't find any of mine either. I'm sure I had 'living with an incubus' but couldn't even find it, and now I can't even find 'trap maid'. This is what happens when you name everything with camouflage, I suppose.
I had no idea people wanted male cyoas
>>82790692Well, it's not exactly "people"
>>82790692I don't even want specifically male focused CYOA, really, I just want decent homo options in CYOAs that don't have themLike, if you give me a companion section in a longwinded fantasy setup and the options are>10 chicks of varying species and builds>two generic human dudes and maybe one muscled orc specifically marked as straightI'm going to lose interest immediately.
>>82790692I don't
>>82790853I gotta admit, I feel for you. Here I am making sado-maledom cyoas for some of the most ungrateful readers who can't ever be satisfied, meanwhile you're out here genuinely starving. Alas, I very much dislike looking at dicks or half naked males when making CYOAs. In fact, it was my difficulty going through male companion images specifically that led to me not including a companion section for CaptaCard; I decided that if I couldn't make an atleast somewhat balanced companion section, I wouldn't make one at all.
>>82791679Can somebody post the CaptaCard Cyoa? I never made a full build despite looking through it like 5 times.
>>82790692I personally want "be the het Femboy" CYOA, but to each their own.
>>82792531Hathor Wills It, there is another one too I think
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>>82793446I considered posting the wip companion section too, but it is REALLY undeveloped.
I've been thinking about point balances and option availability in CYOAs today. My rule is that players should be able to pick up between 1/4 and 1/3 of options, but I still get complaints by people saying they don't feel like they have enough points. And I was just checking Tok's Infected cyoa, which I never feel like I get enough points, and found the ratio to be more like 1/7th. Although arguably that one might be more of a """drawback""" focused CYOA, and even has options to dump all those drawbacks on others, so it having less points could be argued as being part of the fantasy.Anyway, what're your thoughts?
>>82793878A lot of this depends on theme and size of your CYOA.
>>82793878>My rule is that players should be able to pick up between 1/4 and 1/3 of optionsThat's shit. It need to be closer to 1/2. And taking tok as a comparison is one of the worst things you can do on so many levels.
>>82793878I find too many points / choices detracts more than too few
>>82793878I think that the smaller the total amount of perks people can choose the more the Chose part of CYOA will be emphases. This leads to people having to actually consider what they take creating meaningful choices, but it can be annoying to have everything you want but one perk.
>>82794002>>82794019miseryfags
>>82793878More drawbacks, more options. Just make sure those drawbacks are somewhat unique, they're too often essentially the same thing copy pasted 10+ times.
>>82794042I prefer not to play a Cyoa that just amounts to a perk picking simulator.
>>82794084My main issue with drawbacks is that most of them are basically untakeable or just free points, I think that most of them need to be mild to where they would be annoying to live.I hate genderbender 'drawbacks' because they are just a perk for people who like BTG but at the same time a drawback that anyone who is not a tranny would never take.
>>82793878>1/4 to 1/3thats usually not enough, try 1/2 to 2/3, though it depends on how available points are in the rest of the cyoa, TR gives you fuckall at the start but has options and mechanics that give you fuck tons of pointsat minimum, there should be enough points to hash out a low power build without touching drawbacks>drawbacksthere has to be some benign/non-fetish drawbacks that give a reasonable amount of points not 2i find thinking of drawbacks as just drawbacks leads to them not being 'fun' to pick up, thinking of them as demonic bargains shifts the design focus from fucking over the player to tempting them with more power, this of course, requires options worth actually taking
>>82793984Nah, 1/2 is way too much. You may as well be playing a button CYOA, or worse one of those 'do you want to be a wizard or a martial' cyoas all over /tg/. But 1/2 should be possible with drawbacks, maybe even comfortably possible if you play into whatever theme/fetish is the focus of the CYOA. With 3/4 possible if you want to go majorly uncomfy, or 100% if you want to go full maso.
>>82793878you really shouldn't think of it in terms of a ratio at all, if some theoretical cyoa is best with 6 out of 30 available choices and you add 30 more choices it doesn't magically become good with 12 choices but probably still stays best with 6 choicesi don't know where this ratio idea came from but i always thought it was bizarre, why even think about that rather than thinking about what makes builds the most fun?
>>82793878Straight up ratios aren't necessarily the ideal solution, but they are an easy one and that matters when you're creating them. Ideally, though, I like it when you get enough options to take a core set of things I'd need, but not enough to get everything you want. The choices stay meaningful but I don't have to feel like a build is so restricted that I can't complete the concept.>>82794276That's just silly. You don't have to keep the ratio the same, but if you double the option count and give no additional points you're pigeonholing everyone into similar builds. They take what they think they need and not what they want.
>>82795046>if you double the option count and give no additional points you're pigeonholing everyone into similar builds.on the contrary, if you give more points you're making builds more sameybut it's not really about making the builds similar or not, the point was that if the cyoa is best with 6-choice builds then giving 12 choices isn't going to improve it
>>82793878The ratio points to choices isn't important what is far more important is the ratio of must have options and specialization options.You must minimize the must have option point expenditure if some options are just blatantly op compared to others or have some really coveted effect like immortality then they become must picks. If the majority of points spent become these must picks and they have no points for specialization then the player begins complaining that the aren't enough points.If it's an option that 90% of players are going to pick it's a must pick option and essentialy becomes a point tax. You must either balance the options out that they aren't as op in comparison, remove them entirely, make them free/cheap or at least aim for the options not to consume more than 1/3 of the budget, lower ratios are advised.Really the most important metric is how many viable unique builds you can make. Minimizing sameyness is crucial. Unless your making a cyoa were you intend sameyness and everyone is supposed to follow the same path for narrative reasons. But at that point point ratios are an after thought.So in general just make a lot of balanced viable options providing the player with a satisfactory amount of points for their niche. While minimizing point expenditure on must have options that work as point tax and very shit options that no one will ever pick. It's really hard to judge and is generally vibe based but just go make a few builds of your own cyoa following some themes and get a feel of the vibe are some options too picked? Too strong? Too weak? And try to balance it out. If you can make multiple builds your satisfied with its probably going to be a good cyoa.
>>82790053Agreed
>>82794276You don't understand, there has to be a perfect mathematical way to make CYOAs, because otherwise I'll never make a perfect CYOA; it's not like I'm able to make one by being creative, afterall.
>>82793878>My rule is that players should be able to pick up between 1/4 and 1/3 of options, but I still get complaints by people saying they don't feel like they have enough points.I'm going to make a few assumptions here...> the described ratio is for starting points only (i.e. not counting what's available via drawbacks and such)> things that other CYOAs might cover in a single option (especially staples like immortality and shapeshifting) are spread out over multiple choices, thus driving up their relative price> drawbacks are more serious than what other CYOAs tend to have, run more heavily against the CYOA's intent, or the likeFirst assumption is the only one that makes the points purchasing power situation worse if it happens to be wrong.
>>82788079frotting is advanced cuddling!1
>>82790853I atleast try to make half my options not girls. Like, if I have 10 companions, there will be a guy who looks like a girl, a girl with guy bits, something that looks like a girl but doesn't have any bits, a fat bastard and a 50/50 of the last either being something with tentacles or a regular handsome male to balance out the 5 anime girls I include. Either that, or a token gender change power so you can do it yourself.
>>82788727You gotta have backups, anon.Though given the price of memory and storage at the moment I can understand why you don't.
>>82789258Uoh
>>82789258>>82789296Could be interesting to have a lewd cultivation cyoa about non-standard dao, that are classics from porn. Like smug loli, faceless man, tentacle rape monster, seedbed/broodqueen, and so on.
>>82797785only one of those is a guy but hey, one is bigger than zero.
>>827938781/ln(N)where N is the number of choices
>>82800880Huh. After plugging in a few different N's, that actually works pretty well.
>>82800183Hot
Its just me or is the thread going down page 8 or 9 faster than usual
>>82800183God i wish i could cultivate myself into a smug loli. Not sure how i would deal with constantly courting corrections but i am sure it will be fine.
>>82789258https://strangetale.nekoweb.org/Eastern%20Fantasy/index.htmlWhat else do we have?
>>82800183>tentacle rape monster, seedbed/broodqueenNatural allies
>>82805568Fast cultivation, but just imagine the smell.
>>82804074cyoas are a dying hobby
>>82804074A lot of the other general I browse have gone slower too.
>>82793878Personally, I always find CYOAs more interesting when I'm scrounging and saving for every point I can get. When I just barely feel like you have the build you want, and that if I only had a few more points, I'd be able to really level up my build - which tempts me harder and harder into skipping out on things I want, or if it's that type of CYOA, taking a really serious downside I might not otherwise consider. Basically, the less points you have, the more each choice matters.Of course, this is for more "serious" CYOAs where I want players to feel the same way. I wouldn't want people to feel like they were having to refinance their homes if they were doing a self indulgent power fantasy isekai CYOA
My spreadsheet chose this CYOA to share with all of you today
>>82809629Never seen this before, mystery box
>>82805539Pretty sure there is a normal (static) cyoa released some time ago by one of our authors here on imgchest but I don't have it saved
>>82810183Nta, and I don't have the image saved sadly, but since spreadsheet anon seems to have dipped I will tell you that the mystery box is (maybe predictably) the narrator girl you can see there in the corner.
>>82809629>>82811012one mystery box, as ordered
Bumping the thread with a small graphical update I'm hashing together. Still very unsure about this layout, but it's like, legible, right? Is the leathery texture too loud?
>>82812450>LegibleYes.>too loudNo.Overall, it has a very rustic feel that fits the theme strongly.
>>82812450>passed down is somehow a good traitI see how this is going to be
>>82812717Danke anon>>82812780Thinking of converting it to a trait rather than a memory. It's the only memory that can be positive AND negative, either raising or lowering obedience depnding on if the old man was a dick (which let's be real, he probably was) and you'll be able to trade them at the market for magic beans. I mean, uh, for other cows.Still figuring out this whole system.
>>82813035Pretty sure he was just bitching about used goods.
I'm making a waifu-ish cyoa where you're a henchman to one of many villainesses spread throughout the dimensions. You pick the skills you want, and then you select the waifu you like best and you check how much of her requirements and needs you fulfill. That determines the ending she has.I'm going to crowdsource the villainess waifus, and ask you all to make a villainess by providing her picture, name, history, her personality and quirks, and her fetishes.I add them all to the dossier, maybe tweak them a little so it flows better. I'm going to be posting the form for making your villainess this weekend so everyone gets a go. What do you think?
>>82813741You should probably be ready to make some villainesses yourself, in case all of the submissions are too samey
>>82813805Good idea!
>>82813101As he should
>>82813741This sounds fucking incredi—>villainess>essGod damn it.
Note that he's not gonna get shit for whining about it
>>82815406fag
>>82815406Hey throw in a compelling enough contribution and I'll add your guy to the dossier.
>>82813741It's a good concept but you probably can't offload too much of the writing to a thread as quiet as this one or you'll be short of submissions. If you're just asking for concepts and quick summaries that you'll then flesh out you should be fine though.
Are there any good bimbo cheerleader cyoas?
>>82813741So, like, a genie with a theme and little bit of submitted lore?That sounds alright. The hardest part is that I'd just want to stick aruva's fat titted demon king as my submission verbatim, but I'd worry that wouldn't be original.
>>82817132I miss clitbox mania.
>>82815406genderswap them when they come out. just hope that they're not overtly feminine in personality and would be hot as guys. it's what i'll do.i hope one of them's a bratty and entitled silkpants type who believes the world belongs to them by birthright. and another's a seductive black belly type who manipulates you into it. or maybe a cute, naive one who wants to spread happiness against people's will. so much potential in this premise.
>>82815406At least they're up front about it, unlike Prisoner Transfer which mentions the male wing over and over and then never shows you it. Bait and switch bullshit.
>>82807386This desu, probably 4chan overall. Which is a shame, because there isn't a replacement for most things here.In some cases it is ***cord that allegedly takes away many posters.
>>82812450My only request is a Goth/loser type cowgirl.
>>82818156The hack and cancercaptcha killed a lot of traffic. Mods are still incompetent, too.
>>82812450>abused by previous owners, still averse to touchPage 1 and we're already on used goods?
>>82816753A bit too specific>>82819095Hopefully its just a example as he mentioned earlier
>>82817676>>82815406>Anons ITT surprised a waifu picker is mostly composed of womenHello frens from reddit :)
>>82819996I never said I was surprised, just annoyed that a premise that sounds that fundamentally based missed the mark for me in a key way. I hope the straightfags of this thread enjoy it.
>I'm totally not seething that strightGODs Finally get a Cyoa and that Faggots like me are not welcome here>I'm just annoyed okay CHUD
>>82819095Some people like fixing broken things
>>82819095Abused doesn't have to mean raped.It could be physical abuse, yeah? I also want to have a harem of virgins but let's not get crazy here.
>finally Lurk moar
>>82820583You can't re-virgin used goods.
>>82820583Sad there's not more games like Teaching Feeling.
>>82820156>Finallyshartyfags confirmed underage b&
>>82740402Locked In (Talk), Blood Related, Extra Time x2Convince or "convince" her to teach me magic.
>>82820761Is that psychotic schizo of a dev even still active?
>>82822967Last I saw he's been reduced to posting occasional sketches on his social media. It's sad, because up to Teaching Feeling he was building himself up pretty well as the "adorable damaged/horror girl romance guy" and then he has some kind of crashout over pirates and westerners then stops even providing content to the Japanese base.
damn didn't expect a cyoa to have such a long WOGhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1kQamPq-wDGitUqJU9GO811T_X-AOvFuXp0mwlvJsVtI/edit?tab=t.0
>>82823294I feel much less like a crazy tryhard about the Angela shorts, now.
>>82816753noyou should make one
>>82818192Was actually considering using all of the Hex cow art somewhere in the CYOA, but I'm not sure if she's too well known that it might strain suspension of disbelief. Or maybe no one cares about that
>>82820637yes you can
>>82824448Imagine being this delusional.
>>82824385NTA but personally I don't care about that and would enjoy a Hex cow.But if it's a problem for you, you can always just use her pics for any non-character options like bonuses, drawbacks or items. Most people shouldn't mind it.
>>82824493The butterfly goddess legit granted her a brand new virgin body for you to fuck her.
>>82820637are you so weak you can't even re-virgin people? Its super easy, your just need to rejuvenate their body and erase any sexual experience from their mind.
>>82824385Salivating like a dog rn
only niggers post here
Why are you guys this obsessed with virginity?
Herrf durrf, why do you guys like icky virgins??
i think he was more so asking why you throw temper tantrums about waifus having breathed the same air as a man other than you
why do you have to be passive aggressiveit's just a preference and you behave like some fucking virginfag pissed in your cereal
>>82813741Kinda want to suggest a loli villaness but no idea about the details
>>82825571You are a posting here therefore a niggerSo am I We are all niggersLets all go to KFC together
I'M HUNGRY
>>82825486I never watched chainsaw man but this girl has an effect on people, huh?
