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How many can she give That Smile again?
Anyone whining about suselle is just homophobic and can’t stand queer representation, and that’s a FACT
>>83649553
So what now? We lost. There's no coping about it anymore, they straight up confessed. Kris has been forced to help and stand on the sidelines watching. Susie has practically forgotten him as anything but some third wheel friend that she can gush about Noelle now.
>>83649598But what if I hate Suselle but still want to see Asgore break Rudy in half with his mighty gardening plough going into him intensely. Checkmate Atheist
A deserved death.
>>83649598True.
>>83649628rip bozo
>>83649598TrueEspecially if Toby pulls a Digital Circus and reveals the whole reason kris is a they/them is because he's a troon>Human living in a town of monsters>Puts on fake horns to try and be like them>Themes about not fitting in and becoming your true self fucking everywhere And given places like plebbit basically already consider it canon it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. As a homophobe I will be disappointed but not surprised.
>>83649720
>>83649635Well, quite honestly, this is the part where I quit. I'm not playing this game anymore. I might stick around trash to commiserate but it is over, I am not touching more of this.I wouldn't reccomend any of you to go into any /v/ or /vg/ threads unless you want nothing but kris cuckposting. Granted, I suppose now it's literally canon.
>>83649737
>>83649759Cuckposting is expected. Just like all the memes with sans banging Toriel. I'm in it for the long haul. I want to fully witness a media before I critique it or explain why toby has shit taste. Same with anime. I never drop a show. I watch the whole thing so I can give advanced versions of "its shit and you're shit for liking it". Sometimes i'll even come around to liking it again.
>>83649730How can you invest your time into Deltarune as an homophobe? You knew there was going to be some gay or tranny shit at some point.
>>83649808What is there to witness? They're holding hands and confessing while Kris stands there slumped like a cuck watching it happen. Every single moment between Kris and Susie meant literally nothing outside of raising our hopes just so they could be destroyed.
>>83649831Kris is a canon they/them, anything with them in it is queer.
>>83649808>I never drop a show.This is just the halfway mark. Rudy is fully behind the Suselle shit and even made a joke about there being to nose nuzzling "queens" for the festival, even halfway convinced Carol not to be a bitch about it. No one is winning here.
>>83649808Sorry but this 2026, you can't expect a generation full of ADHD to be willing to sit down and wait for the ending. You were supposed to have an opinion ready the second you started the game and then never ever be allowed to change it.
>>83649832>Toby's depressed self-insert is going through a hard time mean that Toby is a 100% approving it
>Spent the past two days having the most fun in her life with Kris>No indication of having spoken to Noelle before ch2Who greenlit this man
>>83649871>Noelle eating Kris and Susie's "leftovers">and she can be there as wellWell, cuck chair memes are canonized at least.
Kris is literally getting third wheeled so retardedly hard it's not even funny.This was literally the one thing I didn't want to happen.
>>83649892We waited 8 years for the halfway point are you just supposed to not engage until the mid 2030s?
>>83649831Because it's not hard to relate and enjoy moments/themes that aren't gay. Susie being a misunderstood outcast, Noelle being too shy and a doormat, and then being a doormat in a DIFFERENT way in the snowgrave route. The wisdom of turtle man Gerson, etc. Plus the game is fun and toby is a funny writer.
>>83649931Is Deltarune's final chapter released, yes or no?
Hello from /hmofa/ and /doe/!Everything fucking sucks right now
>>83649909Anon, after all they fucking went through, Susie has the GALL to say that it was NOELLE who made her "have some of the best days". Motherfucking Noelle. She spends like five fucking minutes with her on a single dark world and all of a sudden she's the perfect match who made her happy.Kris is LITERALLY slumped on a table while they confess their love.Toby is either a genuine cuck, or torturing kris to punish us for daring to not like his precious suselle.
>>83649832>Every single moment between Kris and Susie meant literally nothing outside of raising our hopes just so they could be destroyed.And I want to be able to say that confidently when the show is over. That Ch 5 was genuinely a rug pull with evidence to back it up even in later chapters when noel and kris ends up looking forced (Especially since the whole point of SnowGrave is that it IS forced, so it being canon in the normal route will have funny parallels)
>>83649963Nope. Is incomplete media able to be judged as-is?
>>83649927Berdly explicitly called himself the 4th wheel... right after Susie commented that they "needed" Kris to be there, which is literally just... fucking saying Kris is the third wheel. That's what happens if you talk to Berdly btw. Noelle calls it her first date with Susie right after with a big maybe sitting right there in the middle. Just grand.
>>83649982So what, you're just gonna spend another five years huffing copium? Maybe if there was even the slightest fucking implication that what they're doing is bad, but no. They have a literal love song. EVERYBODY in the game acts like it's the best thing to ever happen. Kris is nothing more than a forethought. I mean, it's downright insulting. Four chapters of them hanging out, and who is it that made Susie the happiest? Noelle, apparently.
Lol I wouldn't want to be any of you guys right now.
Toriel and Asgore seem to be in Kris' camp to be fair. Toriel says she's sure Susie would love to go with him (And she would know about the drawing dragons thing) and Asgore offers to give Kris a rose if he pops by later. Toby ain't a perfect writer but he's good with things subtle things like this. We may be coping but goddamnit the dog supplied the copium
lmao
Also, Asgore called Kris royalty/prince as a joke earlier and now Flowery is calling Susie a princess in waiting.>>83650098
>>83650098>>83650144You're looking at breadcrumbs while ignoring the massive fucking baguette being rammed up your ass.
>>83650160>ignoring the massive fucking baguette being rammed up your ass.Unrelated, but Catty joked about Pizzapants giving Bratty toxoplasmosis if you encourage her to speak with him and now I'm imagining her mile-long snout rammed up his ass.
>>83650144kris the prince with susie his princess
>>83650144>Kris royalty/prince...he called asriel a prince
>>83650199>never ever
I forgot just how bad I am at this game, still can't dodge shit. If the writing actually keep investing itself in Suselle I'm probably not gonna touch this game again considering there won't be anything left for me.
Just got to the dark world. Overall, very disappointing. Middle of the night down under, so I'm going to bed and will continue tomorrow.
>He'll subvert it!>I trust toby to treat it with some nuance!>He's not just gonna do the same bog standard lesbian romance twice!>But all the Krusie teasing!I fucking told you guys.I told you Toby loves his yuri faggotry and that he can't write an interesting romance plotline for jack fucking shit.I feel so vindicated.However I must say I got owned myself because I wasn't expecting Toby to do Kris like that.
>>83650217Goatcuking soon...
How you niggers even fell for the purple ogre in the first place is beyond me.
>Kris is out like a light for that sceneI hate it. I fucking hate it.
>>83650293Susie *was* a great character. Of course, now she has been assassinated and turned into some skinwalker who somehow thinks five minutes with the stupid deer was worth more than all the time she spent with Kris
>>83650293she's pretty and a scalie
Toby has spent 15 years obsessing over an ending he saw in a dream and you're trying to tell me he's going to waste it all away on Suselle? Call it copium but I don't see why he wouldn't simply just write a Kris happy to have two lesbians friends instead.
I’m still good
>>83650331We are not necessarily dealing with a logical person here.
genuinely where the fuck did this side of susie come from? she was with kris and ended chapter four melodramatic and then this?
>>83650293We get it you've always hate the game, you can fuck off now and maybe find better use of your free time.
>>83650355>Being with you makes my days betterWHERE DID THIS COME FROM??? You spent ONE NIGHT IN A DARK WORLD WITH HER??? WHAT???
>>8365033115 years would be around the time he was living in Hussie's basement and dated Shelby Cragg. Who later broke up with him and came out as lesbian. Maybe he saw himself in a chair with this dream, watching as she gets claimed by a fearsome butch girlboss.Ironically, her words (last tweet here) should have been directed to Toby with his "stories can be retold" bullshit.
If Susie can wear ribbons now does that means she's in first grade again?
>>83650408Tobias Foxington just kinda forgot this game takes place over a couple of days and not the eight real life years it's taken to pass this shit out his ass.
>>83650355>>83650408For what it's worth, Noelle dyking out and Susie pulling a 180 on literally all of her shown behavior with Noelle means she blew off the news that her dad might be dying.And Susie is a cunt for not getting Kris an ice cream. None of this makes any sense.
>>83650408Yuri makes toby's dick hard and he's willing to ignore anything and everything he's written to arrive at itDidn't think it could ever be this bad though.
>>83650408Honestly, at this point, I'm starting to laugh. I mean it's just ridiculous, isn't it? Several chapters of Susie and Kris bonding and in the end getting a single pencil and spending five seconds hanging out meant more to susie than all of that.
Did we lose or did we win?
>>83650495Lost, hard
>>83650495It advanced, but Toby is also providing an disgusting amount of copium
>>83650495You know all those chapters Susie and Kris spend bonding? They meant nothing. Not a single fucking thing. Kris gets called a third wheel and forced to watch while slumped down like a corpse.
>>83650495Still two chapters left before we can give a full answer but it's not looking too good
>>83650501>>83650515>>83650517fuck
>>83650533>not looking too goodbrother it's completely and totally over
>>83650535This happened last time and the time before that with the Ferris wheel, give it a week or two
>>83650501>>83650515>>83650517>>83650533TOBY!
He was completely rightLiterally everything he said came true
>>83650558Sure if you think take everything Toby write at face value but considering the quality of the story allows me to give some heavy doubt toward the half baked romance not being done on purpose. We're not talking about Adventure Time where a new writer came and fucked everything, all the Krusie moments have still been written by the same guy who's also weirdly giving us all these Suselle moments. I don't know what his endgame is and even if it's looking terrible right now I'm not calling it done just yet.
>>83650612oh no
>>83650597You can't walk back from Susie saying shit like how Noelle makes her day better, how she likes her the same way and holding hands just to insult Catti. I don't know how or where he thought this writing would fit in, but it's clearly the worst case scenario just shy of them kissing. Susie even pretended to almost trip because she wanted to get Noelle's heart racing. Man, she KNELT in front of her. Nothing makes any sense at all
>>83650631Anon. This is an unhealthy amount of cope.
>>83650631anon you only stand to hurt yourself more.look at undyne and alphys. toby's writing ability falls off a cliff when he's satisfying his lesbian fetish.
>>83650651It does get worse.In the darkworld she says 'If me and Noelle are a item now... it's best to not flirt with others right?' (When commanded to flirt with enemy)But it's honestly really fishy. Something's not right in the darkworld and how that is going. We'll see how that handles it
>>83650631or maybe, just maybe, toby is a fucking hack retard who decided to humiliate kris as a petty revenge against people who dared stand against his pairing
>>83650696Fair but who else was hinted as a potential ship for Undyne and Alphys? I'm talking strictly in game.
I was a bigger krisellefag but damn Toby did you guys dirty
So Toby gave us false hope and then....crushed it? Why?
>>83650753anon please, the sooner you accept and get over it the less it'll hurt.
>>83650812Read >>83650612
>>83650612No he was just off his meds, the guy obsessed with Japan to the point of learning their language and going to live there isn't an anti-white troon.
>>83650895I don't give a shit about "why" he did it, the fact is that he has. Literally everyhting he said is true. Kris is an unloved third wheel loser cuck who's forced to watch as his friendship gets thrown to the wayside.And of course, they do have the "crumbs" that show "Susie totally cares about Kris!" even though, you know, she'll constantly act completely otherwise and treat him like nothing more than an afterthought and a third wheel.
>>83649553>Susie says she'll save her half of the moss for NoelleWhat level of cuckoldry are we at now
Someone post that comic about Kris straying apart from Susie and Noelle because he was being third wheeled so hard.
>>83650408Because Noelle is just better then you
>>83650935>can't even fucking have moss buddy time anymoreKris didn't deserve this
>>83650935It's genuinely, 100%, categorically, decisively, undoubtedly over.
JELLYI NEED YOU JELLY
>>83650935Let Noelle have some moss, don’t be greedy
>>83650935Jesus fucking Christ
>>83651053She's rich, she can buy her own fucking moss.
>>83650935She got her flowers right as Kris made the Dark World man.
>>83651084Everyone knows natural moss is the way to go
>>83650935https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_TbF5m5KpU
>>83651035
Billions must die in the roaring
>Kris gets cucked by Susie & Noelle>Ralsei gets cucked by Susie & FloweryWhat exactly is the goal here.
So what was the inferno of jealousyKris?
>>83651163(You), Kris, and Ralsei collectively crashing out over how fucking atrocious the romance in this game is.
>>83650935The only explanation is that Kris is an actual goner and is already fading from memory
You fags deserve this. Long live Yuri!
>Susie casually learning about the battle menu offscreenok
Congrats to Toby for making me relive how miserable and saddening it is to third wheel and have your friends do shit that you did all the time together without you.Also the internet WILL spin Kris third wheeling as a good thing and "lol they're such a wing man, two lesbians and evil nonbinary person!!!"Kris will be neglected by both Toby and the fandom. With the self-inserters unironically caring more about him more than anything.
>>83651235I hate how you're rightKris suffers like a dog, has everything dear to him stolen, but it's FINE because look at this one dialogue where susie says theyre friends :)
>>83651217I hate that this would sort of make sense, but it still doesn't explain Susie's words >>83649912
>>83651220I'm not a yurifag, but I celebrate with them today. Only because I hate Deltarune and I want the fans to suffer eternally.
we got robbed. it hurts
>>83651228>learned about game mechanics off-screen>did a complete switch up on her behavior with noelle in a fraction of a day off screen>kris meanwhile was too busy almost fucking dyingDid Chapter 4's ending and the situation with Kris being alone mean nothing to her or...?
>>83650942Fuck I know what you're talking about and it got posted on here (or was it doe?) a bit back and it was really heart wrenching. I can't seem to find it fuck.
>>83651295The type of fans that are the problem actually love this shit.
Do you agree?
>tfw it turns out berdley was the best choice for kris all alonggrim
>>83651295That's a miserable way to spend your free time
I still feel like we’re missing something, so many of the Krusie scenes are behind secrets in the last few chapters, there’s definitely more to be found
>>83650927It reminds me of this one krusielle angst comic I saw a while ago on twitter, the three start as a couple and Kris feels they need to take a break while noelle and Susie go about their lives together being all lovey dovey. Months pass and there starts to be a little uncomfortable silence growing in their conversations and actions, of course they still love each other but they can't shake that space no matter what they try, until they realize the solution was Kris the whole time! so they run over to get Kris from the dremurr residence because surely they can fix that squeaky wheel in the relationship, only to be met with toriel. She tells them Kris moved out to college three months ago without the two of them even knowing, that they felt very alone for a while, eventually coming to accept the loneliness, even like it. That's what I get from this. That Kris will be neglected, used to fix their problems and be left alone until everyone realizes all too late just how much they rely on them
>>83651354Nuh huh, haven't you heard? It's all cope, Toby would never ever want the players to do anything expect going in a straight line. Everyone knows he hate secret ending and Easter egg.
>>83651354Maybe Toby lurked /v/ and similar threads. So reactions to everything and decided to ape shit?
You know, after I spazzed out about chapter 4 and the closet scene. I kinda distanced myself from Rune. I didn't want to be disappointed. I'm so glad I did.
>>83651369You're all too hopeful that Kris will be shown any leniency whatsoever. Read the sign.
Prophecy man was correct.Toby wants deltarune to be reverse undertale where your choices dont matter.But also wants kris to be his own person, seperate from the player.So every time he cucks the player to punish them and remind them their choices dont matter he accidentally double cucks kris.
>>83651437or this
>>83651339Not fair becauce gaster is seen as some sort of GOD despite being related to sans and papyrus.Hes gonna be a dork when revealed. 100%
This is evil as fuck to do to Kris, dawg.
>>83651387I doubt he cares about this site, for all he knows it's "evil hacker 4chan" to him
>one-sided KressFucking sad man.
>>83651485>doesn't bring Kris a ice cream>saves moss for Noelle laterFuck this bitch
>>83651491You'd be surprised
>>83651522>KressKill yourself nigger
>>83651491Hes a homestuck fanboy.He k ows about us. Maybe hes on the opposite side, an old tumblr poster, but her 100% knows us more than a normie
>>83651491I'm sure he knows about what goes down here, though maybe not the specifics. It's just a question of whether he thinks it's worth pissing off a few hundred guys who are both chuds and like his games.
>>83651547This isn't a joke anonKris had a one-sided crush on Dess because Toby fucking loathes him and wanted to inflict as much suffering on Kris as was humanly possible
Any proof Toby hasn't been replaced?
>>83651547? It's real.
>>83651453I tbf male role models are way harder to write because they are seen as authoritarive and any speech they give WILL be seen as tobys worldview if they teach kris anything. Anything asgore says that isnt gay libralism will set the fandom on fire
>>83651575And why would Toby hate Kris? Schizo politics aside I mean
>picks all the suselle options>speed runs the new chapter to get all the suselle scenes>doomposts in response
>>83651522>>83651575I would have said "That shouldn't be your conclusion from that scene" but considering how utterly unsubtle this chapter has been so far, and how all the uncertainty from ch4 around Dessriel was nuked by like 2 lines of text, I really can see it being the case.Pour one out for Kris some time bros.
>>83651601Maybe he doesn't, but he's right there and players are all around the globe. See >>83650612
>>83651601I don't know, what do you want me to say? What has happened to Kris is far beyond just normal suffering. It's genuinely fucking spiteful. Literally eveyr single thing Kris has is stolen from him. The fucking moss eating was stolen from him. He gets tortured and whipped like a dog and everyone treats it like the most wholesome great thing ever in-game.
>>83651526Behold the most accurate Ch5 prediction.
>>83651399I already read the post, the entire point of what I said is that they're going to forget about Kris until they're just an afterthought despite everything they've done. Only then when they need Kris most are they well and truly gone from their lives because they left Kris to rot
>>83651614Remember back when Chapter 3 and 4 were released and during the first hour peoples were already doomposting with the early scene of Chapter 4 meaning they didn't even paid attention to any scene that they couldn't use to shit-up the thread.
>>83651676My point is that they're not going to. There's not gonna be some big moment where they realize they were wrong. There will be exactly as that screencap said - a singular moment where they say they totally care about kris and shit, but it'll be just that, a single statement while the rest of the game is dedicated to him being a third wheel observer that nobody really cares about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty-bLdf8Bswthread theme
>>83651262Aren’t they? Susie doesn’t have to choose when she can get with Noelle and still have Kris as her buddy
>>83651562He has probably seen the noelle rape memes but on if he would bother pissing us off i don't think that his main focues, it's clear that suselle has been planned for a long time, yuri haters being pissed off is a given that to him is also a plus
>>83651712Friends? Friends? How are they friends? Because there's one textbox where she says it? Even though the rest of the chapter is just her treating Kris as some wall whose only purpose is to be there so she can gush about how great Noelle is?The fucking moss thing, anon. That was THEIR thing. But now? Oh, now it's noelle and susie's thing, of course :)
>>83651614>weirdroute.jpg
All media is torture.Its either hollywood slop where they make things to huff their own farts and tell you youre a shitty person for not liking itOt its indie slop for being self insert, self preachi g bullshit, and said indies were once wannabe rejects from hollywood anyways.Art is gayCreativity is deadI am sadAnd i dont have the time nor will to become an artist and fix it
>>83651784Nta and I'm devastated, but like I understand I just ufcking hate like. WE like susie, and as much as we try to push that onto Kris it's all video gamey bullshit- I can't even man I was gonna type some bullshit I just can't
>>83650612Unironically the only person to have actually understood what Deltarune is about
>>83650631>considering the quality of the storyHave you fucking seen what he delivered with this chapter?
>>83651880It's very obvious yes, we've been coping from the First chapter, but like, it could have still been this sorta rejection of us to reclaim some type of autonomy while we went into the vessel or something for the rest of the narrative I was hoping I coping
>>83651860There's pretty much no other solution than for us chuds to make our own shit, even if it's derivative. See: volcano high vs snoot game
>>83651917Chapter 7, trust the plan.
>>83651880I was foolishly holding onto the fact that so far there had been plenty of moments that felt like they'd matter, and that Toby wouldn't just decide to invalidate his writing for the sole reason of punishing his players.
>>83651693This is where I'm at. I haven't even seen the end of the chapter yet, so I'm just enjoying the chaos. (This is my cope.)
>>83651943Honestly, at this point that would be the most productive path forward. We can't keep subsisting on scraps and cope forever.
>literally throws his heart in the trash after that Suselle scene
>>83651989Wait, really? Does this actually happen?
>>83651880But did the cucking have to be this atrotious tho?Like susie and noelle can fuck with a little better writing plz and ty
>>83651983I write my own wargame stuff, but as an autist I am unable to make good dialogue. I can judge stuff, certainly, but I can't write people speaking in the slightest.
>>83651989Kris dies of an infection at the end of the game
>>83652040Yes. He throws it in the bin once you leave the river shore (granted, it's to do something without YOU interfering, but the symbolism's there, and there's plenty of moments where you can see Kris' longing)
>>83650812He's evil (jewish)
>>83651698Ahhh that makes more sense, I envisioned this taking part after the "we're friends!" Moment, stringing them along until they're forgotten about AGAIN, repeating the process until Kris gets fed up and breaks the cycle, leaving before they can start the song and dance. Then they'll really learn how much their friendship really matters when nobody actually tries. It's an unfortunate thing about Kris as a character, nobody really gives a fuck about them in hometown.
>>83652076So you guys are overreacting over a scene that imply Suselle is bad for the main character? If Toby really was this evil jewish anti-white guy like you all say with no proof he would make Kris happy to be cucked to brainwash his underaged fans but he didn't.
>>83651989>Susie gets Noelle flowers
>>83652122Well the issue with that anon is that it requires the writer to know that what is happening is fucked up.
>>83652148He is happy to be cucked. Throwing the soul in the trash is a direct attack on (You), the susiefag.
>>83652187Is he miserable or happy? Changing your arguments on the go won't make you right.
>>83651491He 100% browsed a few threads, he was a /v/ lurker
>>83652216Well, he looks miserable, he acts miserable, everything he enjoys has been stolen from him, nobody he loves loves him back, BUUUUT Toby would never allow someone to tarnish his precious suselle so the writing will act like everything is okay and dandy
>>83652148If you have ideas that differ from the fanbase it obviously means you want white genocide
You know some of you anon's are right Kris can probably end up just as upset as all of us in this thread and I guess that would be....an option at least it would seem like it was planned and it would emotionally resonate as just how things are.
>>83652148>you guys are overreacting over a scene that imply Suselle is bad for the main character?Suselle being bad for Kris doesn't mean it won't/isn't happening. The chapter goes out of its way multiple times to shove it down your throat, and Kris - outside of cutscenes - seems to bury it (if he's upset at all)
>>83652242>he thinks toby is gonna write a chapter where kris shows dissatisfaction with his precious golden pairing that everybody loveslmao, no. If anything he'll show kris being completely supportive and happy and clapping from the siidelined while being alone and miserable.
>>83652148You dumb idealistic cope-huffing faggot, how do you THINK Kris felt hearing all of that knowing they could've left at any time to open the Flower King fountain?
>>83652060He was very obviously writing the hole thing with one hand while jacking off with the other
>>83652243https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlDYpHiXyu8
Did days of adventures with Kris mean nothing to you?
>>83652335Kris genuinely can't fucking have anything holy shit it's so grim. I can't even get mad anymore. It's so beyond the pale I can't do anything but laugh.And then I remember that people will see this as some wholesome wonderful great moment that shows kris is still cared forthen i laugh harder
>>83652267>Kris is going to be both happy and miserable because Toby hate me
This whole thing is very reminiscent of the amazing digital circus where people gaslight themselves into thinking the creator is a 10000000+ IQ mastermind spinning a web of keikakus that you could never see coming just because what's in front of you is so fucking bad, phoned in and obviously fetish fueled that your brain refuses to believe that's all there is
>>83652361
>>83652397At least gooseworx admits to having and including fetishes
>>83652335Okay that's a dick move
>>83652392Stated vs ShownKris will be shown to suffer more and more and have every last bit of joy and special bond he had taken away, but it'll be 'fine' because the writing will say "Kris is happy"
>Join me, and we can end this destructive faggotry, and bring Krusie to the galaxy!
I mean, realistically speaking, on closer reflection, it's not like I ever really expected Toby to give the main character any type of romance angle for his game. It feels out of character for some odd reason. I Feel like he likes to start and end his characters as relatively blank slates.
So the blue roses of "Unrequited love" represent Kris, right?
>>83652335Toby unironically sees nothing wrong with dialogue like this. It's just funny chungus lesbians.
>>83652487>Kris>A blank slateAnon, there literally couldn't be a single thing more wrong than this.
>>83652397ARG fags simply expected a character-driven story to be full of mysteries, twist and lore cause their brain is still rotted by decades of FNAF and then got angry when it wasn't.
>>83652497Sure he write a miserable Kris and dozens of Krusie scene by total accident.
>>83652511True true, Kris is a character onto themselves and clearly has things that they desire. I'm just kinda trying to question why I was retarded enough to hope in the first place? I mean from the knife scene in chapter 4 would it be safe to at least assume that KRIS likes Susie in a romantic way?
>Kris will bring the roaring because he got cucked and forgotten
>>83652533Take your pick>Toby is so willfully blind he genuinely sees nothing wrong with it and did it all by accident>He didn't do it by accident, he just genuinely wants to see Kris suffer
>>83652492Yes Kris even gets called The Blue Rose
>>83652492Obviously
i saw people in /doe/ and /vg/ saying susie considers herself and noelle a coupleis there proof of that?
>>83652335>susie talking about kris>noelle immediately changes the topic to herself>disappointed that susie wants kris to play piano with themi swear i remember skimming through a deltarune fic where suselle happened, and it ended up horribly because noelle kept susie away from kris. deltarune feels like it's going that route.
>>83652571She says something like "do you think it will work out between us, Kris?"
>>83652550Anon, we could spend here hours talking about all the scenes that implied Kris liked Susie or Noelle, or how they had an actual relationship, but none of that matters because it completely fucking evaporated.
>>83652571The entire chapter
>>83652559Better yet, the game isn't finished and we've yet to see what will come out of all the chaos he's clearly setting up.
>>83652613Rape her asshole while she's still warm, you can't let good deer meat go to waste
>>83652595It's evaporated YES, BUT as a form of narrative if all this blue rose unrequited love shit is real then fuck it you know? We ball, that's what the story is about. Not having your feelings accepted, maybe because you never really tried, maybe because you always needed the player to actually be forward moving for you. Maybe because Kris was always to weird and pathetic to actually make friends on their own after whatever fuck happened with Dess. And we'll see the culmination of a narrative like with some type of giant self destructive explosion.It would be what I wanted, but it'd be a story I could understand.
>>83652607>okay yes i know kris has been cucked beyond belief of literally fucking everything he loves>and yes, the writing doesn't show anything with this to be wrong in any way>BUT >in 2 more years surely toby will realize his mistakes
Kris we have to invite my girlfriend on adventures now!
>>83652637>"Toby doesn't know what's gonna happen next, he's spent 15 years just thinking about the ending and is only writing each chapter as they go"
>>83652641Man am i glad i pirated it when chapter 3 came out cause holy fuck
>>83652641>First the moss>Then the piano>Now this tooIt really feels like Toby went through everything he wrote and specifically added in scenes to make them not matter.
Any of you finished the chapter yet? Are you guys overreacting?
>>83650318She was always a piece of shit that said Kris would make everyone happier if he died. She’s never going to apologize for that, especially now that she monkey branched off to Noelle.
>>83652697it's rough
>>83650318Susie was a mary sue ever since chapter 3, sorry that you guys had to realise it all of a sudden but her character was always a disaster
>>83652671I'm being sarcatic, anon. Toby knows fully fucking well what he's doing. You can't be this level of petty where you meticulously strip Kris of every single special bond he had with Susie and not have planned it. I'm just saying that there's not gonna be a happy ending for Kris.
>>83652641>>83652690absolutely none of her behavior tracks with how susie has acted at all lmfao, her character is fubar
Would you guys be ok if Chapter 7 ended with threesome style relationship?
>>83652740Many such cases in fiction. An author character assassinating someone due to their fetishes and poor writing
Boy I can't wait for the next chapter where Kris walks around HomeTown alone because Susie and Noelle forgot to bring him along on their next dark world adventure.
>>83652748Hell no. Kris deserves better than those whores. Give him Catti or Dess at this point
>>83652690I'm like talking to my friends in a discord and honestly this really does feel like... A loser who had a crush on a girl but never had the balls to tell her? Then suddenly gets a sudden surge of confidence to at least talk to them (The player) but it's not really THEIR confidence and they know that, so they try to make little efforts here and there to prove that they do want something to do with this girl and things seem to be on the up an up. Sure you dislike the idea that this isn't the "Real you" but it's helpful moving forward so you deal with.Then suddenly your childhood friend start moving in on the girl you like as well, strangely downtalking you to her in private, making you seem like that weird other kid who you never truly got along with all so they can score points. So you try to do something in your own awkward way, to show the girl you crush on you care.But then suddenly and most likely due to your inaction you lose your position, hell you lose your position as this person only friend, now suddenly you are the true third wheel, they're going to be focusing on each other far more, they'll have less and less time for you. They want to hang out together without you and suddenly you find yourself rigiht back where you were originally, alone and near abandoned .
>>83652748I'd say yes but it depends on who's in the threesome
>>83652777There is another
>>83652748Anon, I don't think anything could make up for the absolute fucking dogshit way Kris was treated this chapter. Susie has completely sidelined him, Noelle feels like she just straight ups hates Kris and shows instant rejection over any attempt to bond with her.Like, Kris has genuinely been treated like shit, and I hate how nobody is going to point this out outside this site. They will genuinely fucking go>lol kris is such a wholesome third wheel!!! he's basically susie and noelle's enby dog!!!!Without a single iota of irony and act like it's a good thing.
>>83652777Trips of Kress and Kratti truth.
>>83652808>Like, Kris has genuinely been treated like shit, and I hate how nobody is going to point this out outside this site. They will genuinely fucking goI wouldn't be suprised if Kris drops everything and enters shadow world alone instead of with team. Going solo
>>83652806....who?
>>83652740Yeah. Up until ch4 Suselle was more of a gag that you could kind of see working out, maybe. But then for some reason Susie was suddenly blushing when Noelle was around and reciprocating her advances. That was the writing on the wall, but I was still hoping that Toby was just throwing Suselle some crumbs that Krusie and Kriselle shippers already got.It's kind of over now though>>83652789The issue here is that Kris doesn't seem the type to be hesitant about telling Noelle, for example, that he likes her (I am referring to her old blog posts here).The reason he never tells either of them anything is because 1. The dessappearance put his feelings for Noelle on ice (if there ever were any at that age) and 2. The oncoming apocalypse-preventing quest may or may not require a sacrifice, which may or may not be Susie, so he doesn't want to allow himself to get close to her.But with what's happened now, I kind of doubt even 2 is true. I have no fucking clue what tobert is going to do anymore
>>83652808>Like, Kris has genuinely been treated like shit, and I hate how nobody is going to point this out outside this site. They will genuinely fucking go>>lol kris is such a wholesome third wheel!!! he's basically susie and noelle's enby dog!!!!>Without a single iota of irony and act like it's a good thing.You know understand what kind of person this game is actually made for.You're thinking about the implications far more than anyone on the writing team did
>>83652641It might just be me, but I feel like this is really setting up for a major crash out. They haven’t told Noel yet, but when they do, I have a feeling that she’s gonna spiral by the fact that everything that happened to her in the dark worlds was real. Susie lied to her about it all being a dream, Kris really does care. She really did freeze people. She really did hurt Berdly. Or maybe she’ll fucking crash out and realize that the schizophrenic BS that her sister was spelling before she ran off and got herself killed was realEnd of the day it’s the sequel to Undertale that apes the mechanics and plot points of every popular JRPG so I shouldn’t be too upset
>>83652861>coping this hardlollmaoWhen she gets told she's just gonna be happy because her first shitty date with susie was real
>and thus /sus/ begins its slow decline into insanity, wishing for better times, falling deeper into the OC rabbithole and ignoring canonouugghhh inject it into my veins
>>83652845>I have no fucking clue what tobert is going to do anymoreOnly his dick does!
>>83652808Anon . If that's the case. Wtf happened in Strange Route? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-NYRGNa0CQ
>>83652887Your fanfiction is pathetic
>>83652887Either someone makes a Snoot Game (Chalk Eater Edition) or this general is DEAD
>>83652777>>83652814True
>>83652900What happened is that everything about Kriselle is wrong and if you try to make it happen she will literally kill herself.
>terrified to post anything Suselle positive right now...but I think Toby may have actually slightly won me over to it. Letting me be petty about the festival and allowing everything to be done with Kris and Susie helped a lot though
>>83652955>I'm a sponge who soak everything thrown at him even if it's piss
>asgore cucked by sans>kris soncucked by sans>elnina/lanino/rouxls cucking each other>kris cucked by noelle and/or susieWho's next? Wouldn't be surprised if Rudy is Toby's next victim.
I haven't been a coper since I knew he was going to pull this shit but was the rest of the chapter any good? I don't have time to play it until tonight and nobody seems to be talking about anything other than Toby's dogshit lesbian writing.>>83650631Anon, if you have been a Toby fan since Undertale you should know damn well that he has to shove lesbians in everything despite his complete inability to write them convincingly. We are witnessing Alphys/Undyne 2 in slow motion and there is nothing we can do about it.>>83650753Alphys wants to fuck almost everyone and you go on a fake date with her.>>83650935>They are even giving Noelle the friend stuffFuck, man. I can't even blame it on the romance plot. That is just intentionally giving the charming friendship moments to Noelle out of spite.
>>83652955>take krusie>strip literally every special bond they had>hand it to susie and noelle>not in any actual organic way, just "That special thing they had, it's theirs now">"wow i love suselle now"
>>83652969>Wouldn't be surprised if Rudy is Toby's next victim.rudy is getting lifecucked by dying of aids
>>83652969Nail in the coffin would be if Gaster was just a joke. And they having coma / dream in hospital
>>83651784> How are they friends?Then why care so much if she’s not a friend?
>>83652969I fuck Carol frequently.
>>83653002>I haven't been a coper since I knew he was going to pull this shit but was the rest of the chapter any good? I don't have time to play it until tonight and nobody seems to be talking about anything other than Toby's dogshit lesbian writing.Nigga the Suselle shit is ALL of the chapter, there's nothing else
How do we cope now?
>>83652969>Who's next?Ralsei getting cucked by Flowery and Susie
>>83652969Gaster is going to be fucking AWFUL
Ah yes, one thread passing in 3 hours, I’m sure there’s all just regulars hanging around posting here.
>>83650942He doesn’t ever want to see them again.
>>83653002No, the chapter genuinely sucks even beyond the death throes of the ships. It's filler that doesn't build off anything beforehand. And keep in mind we're more than halfway through the game.8 years for this btw
>>83653014Because they WERE friends. They bonded. They had special moments. For several fucking years we saw those two have funny goofy adventures.But now, I'm told by Toby that it all meant nothing, that all of it paled in comparison to the five minutes that susie spent with Noelle, and that all those special things they shared are gonna be handed over while Kris becomes a third wheel.
>>83653075The two of them circling the SOUL, a heart, as they fall into the Dark Sanctuary. It meant nothing
>>83651134That settles it, Kris. If this town won't accept us, we'll carve out our own right from underneath it.
>>83653058Naturally a new chapter release is going to bring old members and old retards in to clash with each other. Just play it for yourself and let it all die down.
>>83652900You skip chapter 6 altogether and get an alternative ch 7, duh.So ch 6 is probably the chapter with the party crashout, and either way in ch 7 you end up with a Kris and Noelle party.
>>83651328It meant nothing. Just like Kris never meant anything to Noelle.
>>83653061It's fucking over.
>>83651262I just want to give him a hug, and let him cry on my shoulder and this point.
Kris is a shit character. People only care because he's supposed to be the self insert. If Kris was the NPC party member, nobody would be shipping him with Susie or Noelle. Frankly Toby is based for sticking it to self insert fags. They've been ruining media for to long, turning everything into generic main character worship.
>>83653058Just stop. Just stop, already.
>>83651235
>>83653179>>83653157>posting the same bait in two threads
>>83653206because it applies to both threads
>>83653153You know at least Krusie can still cope by pretending Toby's end game is a huge party crashout followed by the end of the world but Kriselle? Every new scene of Noelle is either her obsessing over Susie or her hating Kris.
>>83651387And the Cuckelle memes. Those probably pissed him off.
WAIT WHAT? There is city in there?
>>83653034Enjoy the madness.
>>83652422>Is.... is that a F-F-FETISH?!!!>Well now that means there is no themes, it's just fetish!>Why yes I am very media literate Is Alien just fetish fuel with nothing of substance to you too?
Go talk to susie when ralsei presents the choice and she gives kris a rose out of embarssment (It is techincally for practicing for noelle) but they immediately have a heart to heart and Kris says he liked someone, Susie asked if it was human or monster and Kris just stared at her. This + Blue Rose gives me hope that it won't just be a dead end/ignored if nothing else.
>>83653230>people make some jokes about scenes where noelle feels insulted at the prospect of susie and kris hanging out>"HOW FUCKING DARE YOU, KRIS MUST SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER"
>>83653033>>83653069Oh. Fuck.Is there at least a fun secret boss?>>83653179Kris isn't anything special but the bonding moments between him and Susie are absolutely special. Some of the sweetest friendly mischief and bonding scenes that I have seen in a game. Susie so hearing that it kind of steps on that is a bummer.>>83653058I come here after chapter drops and I used to be a regular until the post-chapter 2 giga-hiatus.
>>83653295This is why doe breaking is needed
>>83652900Actually the fact that Toby did this and pretty much states "Comeback in Chapter 7 for some weird alternate shit" Really makes me think that Chapter 6 and Chapter 7 is about to be some crashout bullshit regardless to what route you take.Kris is gonna start fucking stabbing people
>>83653230>>83653295And you know Toby was furious because you're a mind reader?
>>83653061little do they know Kris enlisted and is presently on deployment in the persian gulf, waiting to come back home to pound more torta strippers
>>83653330Why else would the writing be so purposefuly spiteful against Kris otherwise?
>>83653179A number of folks referring to Kris as “he” does help your case a bit..
>>83653278>Susie asked if it was human or monster and Kris just stared at her.MANNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>83653230he MADE a cuckelle reference at the festival twice
>>83653344It has become very blatant that the people who call Kris a he care far more about him as a character than Toby does.Not because they're "self inserting" but because they see Kris as a man.
>>83652267If he does, Kris will be painted as the villain.
>>83653196Don’t worry, Ralsei can be there for you for emotional support
>>83653362Remember that blue roses symbolize unrequited love. Poor bastard
>>83653278>Go talk to susie when ralsei presents the choice and she gives kris a rose out of embarssment (It is techincally for practicing for noelle) but they immediately have a heart to heart and Kris says he liked someone, Susie asked if it was human or monster and Kris just stared at her.I need a screencap of this immediately. This isn't much, but it's something.
>>83653278I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say that the entire piano conversation is nothing more than an allusion for the flower signifying Susie practicing for Noelle as you said. I really don't see Kris getting over hearing all of what happened before this Dark World was even created. Also... a blue rose isn't the best case to use for obvious reasons.
>>83651989He should throw the Susie Award in the trash too.
>>83653344Nonbinary isn't a real thing and Kris is easier to interpret as a male than a female.I don't really have a dog in the ship fight outside of thinking that Susie and Noelle have fucking terrible chemistry.
>>83652566Will he have a Red Queen too?
OUCH!
>>83653400>can't care for a girl
>>83653344People calling Kris 'he/she' is no different from people calling Frisk or Chara 'he/she'Nobody think Kris is nonbinary in the "YOU HAAAAVE to use THEY!" besides tumblr niggers.
>>83653543Literally nothing about Kris' looks or mannerisms are female in any way whatsoeverYou could excuse it in Undertale cause Frisk is a toddler but it doesn't apply here
>>83653543Kris is the most blatantly male character I have ever seen in a long time.
>>83653400I do agree that calling Kris a he doesn't stop someone from caring about him but you really can't believe that Toby is simultaneously a tranny-loving yurifag and also full of hatred for the character he apparently wrote as non-binary.
The enby shit is only included as a smokescreen cause being the only white human male in a Toby Fox game would've clued people in WAYYYYY earlier
>>83653566NTA, but hypothetically what if Kris was female? Would you still care this much?
>>83652777Dess doesn’t care about Kris either, and Catti doesn’t want to be friends with Kris anymore
>ttudolee so depressed that she got too drunk to complete the game puzzlesMight wanna save everything of hers now while you still have the chance. Just in case.
>>83653636If Kris was female she'd still be way more deserving of rubbing pussies together with Susie than the piece of shit that Noelle is, yeah
>>83653563Yeah, in Undertale it was pretty clear that the pronoun thing was for originally for function. Frisk was a pure blank slate who could be whatever you wanted them to be to make the twist work better. Toby just decided to lean into them actually being an annoying Tumblr gender after the fact because he is kind of annoying like that.Kris is just a whole ass man.
>>83653635Kris is clearly SEA, not that it matters for anything.
>>83653662JP twitter is going to explode in angst.
>>83652887Toby’s last gift was to turn us all into Schizo Bosses.
>>83653611At this point I should just make one of those "don't make me tap the sign" memes with >>83650612
>>83653685Oh fuck me he is going to become one bitter as fuck incel
>>83653683>Kris is just a whole ass man.Not when I use 'em.
>>83653662>>ttudolee so depressed that she got too drunk to complete the game puzzlesWhere? X is empty https://x.com/ttudolee/
Crazy to think how hyped I was 5 hours ago to now
>>83653711Very bold of him to nuke Krusie while living in the Krusie country.
>>83653636It's not about whether Kris is a fucking woman. It's about the absolute fucking dogshit writing.
You can already give me some editions for the next thread
>>83653636Yeah. I would actually be even more sad because then you can't even use the gay excuse for why she moved on to a much less interesting relationship. My problem is that this shit is a blatant retread of Alphy/Undyne but worse and in a game where Alphys and Undyne are still present and romantically involved.
>>83652925snoot game dev here, I'm looking in the threads since I heard the news. you guys sound devastated, my actual condolences.
>>83653758Her NSFW alt is where she made those comments. I'm gonna do you guys a solid and scrape everything from that account and her Privatter and then zip it to Catbox. I know how Koreans are, I've seen them wipe pure gold over less; I won't let it happen here. There's always a risk at times like these, sadly.
>>83653428More than that, Susie asking if it was a "human" or a "monster">It's implied that Susie is a hybrid
>>83653807depression edition
You seem to forget: Female Kris stocks were always at an all time high in Toby's games. The last 2 humans he made were literally all headcanonized to mostly just be female since Chara is now predominantly viewed as female, Frisk in majority of fan stuff is as well, and here we have the Knight still implied to be Dess with Kris using a lot of her same ques in how Kris does poses and actions.
Least the final boss theme kicks ass, right?
>>83653741>Toby hate you because... because he just does okay
>>83653807Sinking Ship Edition
>>83653820link?
>>83653816please helpI'll even volunteer demidoggo for you, I'm not him but he'll do it
>>83653807CucKris sadness.
>>83653867https://x.com/ttudolee2
>>83653820link before thread gone?
>>83653889>https://x.com/ttudolee2>protected posts
I find it funny people forget Toby once worked with the original Ship sinker himself Hussie.>>83653888Pretty Kris
>>83653858He hates you because he's an old school yurifag, which is even worse than modern leftist posers
>>83653397So that Suselle being confirmed could hurt you even more.
>>83653892>>83653889>>83653909She accepts follows from anyone, but now may not be the best time for her. Anyway, here's proof that she draws porn. I'm gonna take a while doing this, but it'll be done soon. Take care.
>>83653816err... whats snoot game?a visual novel or something?
>>83653850Frisk is only a girl in fanstuff because of Frans shippers were everywhere.
THE HUMAN WHO WAS KEKED TO DEATHhttps://youtu.be/GnB9ONOp2Bw?t=594&si=xmAYcL7zyCNGrlrs
so if kris is actually a girl... who does she get with? berdly??
>>83653984...we got a anthro flowey now?!?!?
>>83653998>Straightslop
>>83653984>building a room for Noelle next to hersI hate it.
>>83653998nojust the sad darkness of lonesome depression
>>83653998With Susie and Noelle, see you seem to forget Toby will allow it if Kris was a woman or he's willing to dig up the old quadrants from his past given he was still willing to join the HS animation project
>>83653984Why does the end read like she's breaking the fuck up with you WHY. The inclusion of a third person shouldn't come with so much fucking bullshit. IT should just be HEY WERE THE THREE MUSKETEERS HIP HIP HOORAY why does it feel like Susie know DAMN WELL that does this will hurt you.
>>83654044>>83654044>>83654044Sail the high sea or whatever these guys used to say
>>83653984does asgore meet ralsei?
>>83653998Nobody, besides there is a single person in town who cares about Kris.
