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I love Kris
>>> 84216985She probably couldn’t unless she was unaware/tricked into drinking something with alcohol in it. She’d be a train wreck if she ever got drunk too, completely out of control. When she would come out of it too she’d hole up and push everyone away
Any other non-kris ships you guys like?
>>84220126Ralsei is the perfect one for her. Asriel will probably fall in love with her from first sight.
>>84220126Undyne x Susie has a certain charm. Bad cop teaching a punk a lesson in the back seat of a squad car
>Thread reached bump limit in 15 hoursWhy we going so fast nowadays?
>>84220126Ralsusie loses to Krusie for me, but I at least understand the appeal. Other than that, nothing serious.
>>84219699Me too.>>84220126Not really. Krusie and Kriselle are the only ships I care about. Everything else is crackship nonsense.>>84220598Lot of anons coming back after things have calmed down methinks. Including the /doe/ refugees from last year.
>>84220126Not a ship (unless you subscribe to some crackpot theories) but I'd really like to have dynamics between Dess and Noelle explored more next chapters. I think there ought to be some mutual jealousy between them, Dess yearning to easily fit in and belong like Noelle, and Noelle instead seeking freedom Dess has.
>>84220126>non-krisDessriel. That's literally it. Every other ship I love is Krusie, Kriselle and Pinkris
>>84221006Can you stop posting fat fetish shitthanks
>>84221230What? I don't do that. Are you confusing me with another anon?
Any reasons Susie was so excited to see Kris' porn stash?
>>84221006Same. Dessriel is cute, but other than that I like ships with Kris
>>84221006>>84221397>inb4 kressfag melty
>>84220126i still think ralsei x clover is cute
>>84221490Kress is shit as a romantic ship because ew. The idea of them being close, like siblings, is fine, least to me.
>>84221553>The idea of them being close, like siblings, is fine, least to me.I don't think anyone pushes back against that, to be fair. It's just a shame that gets overshadowed by you know what.
>>84221553Kress is cute if their age gap is smaller, but that is getting into AUtism territory. I personally find dessriel boring, basically a middle ground between krusie and kriselle stripped of most yearning and angst both of them have, but I understand the appeal. No hard feelings for anyone except maybe suselletrannies.
>>84221748>No hard feelings for anyone except maybe suselletrannies.I've had infinitely more pleasant interactions with Suselletrannies than Kressfags at this point, which really says something.
>>84221687I know that. It's all really unsettling. I don't like the doelester angle certain individuals like but I do like the idea of Dess being seen by Kris as the cool big sister but she's also hella uncomfortable. Like she's the one to bring up weird topics in conversation in front of Kris because she has no filter but would never act upon them. That is an interesting idea rather than "heugh heugh groomer".
>>84221748>I personally find dessriel boring, basically a middle ground between krusie and kriselle stripped of most yearning and angst both of them haveFor me the appeal of Dessriel is the seemingly normal teenage relationship viciously stripped away by Dess' disappearance, and then the angst of Dess having to rebuild her life after coming back to learn Asriel moved on. Even if the two get back together after she comes back, their relationship will be irreversibly altered in a way that something like Kriselle could never be.
>>84221816Makes sense I guess. Just haven't seen much of a fanart that touches that angle.>>84221779They were quite annoying last year but it seems to have mellowed out. Maybe I'm just filtering the most dumb ones as background noise, idk.
>>84221748>Kress is cute if their age gap is smaller, but that is getting into AUtism territoryIt's actually not. Imagine if she's the Knight and she didn't age while she was stuck in Forma de Caballero. It means she and Kris will be roughly the same age if we're able to bring her back.
>>84221909this sounds pretty good
>>84221884The particularly annoying ones seemed to stop coming here specifically from what I observed.
>>84221972/doe/ had a cute greentext of Dess and Kris relearning their instruments after one lost his hand and the other suffered years-long physical movement deprivation in her dark form.
>>84222019I love the idea, any clues as to where it can be found?
>>84222083https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/84093475/#84093508
>>84221972https://rentry.co/2vwxfrhwIf you haven't already read this one. First four chapters are mostly smut, if that's not your thing
>>84222204Thanks>First four chapters are mostly smutAh shit why is this mandatory for all fanfics
>>84221779>>84221884>>84221981I've seen some being surprisingly reasonable lately, but if you told me that was possible last year I'd fucking spit at you. Like Jesus Christ, they ritualposted retarded blurbs like the average /utg/fag and posted entirely in bad faith like the average /v/irgin. Every single one would regurgitate the same stupid joke ad nauseam, then act like menopausal women when you called them out like "uUH yOu jUsT Don'T liKE aNy nEW conTENt!!." FAnd speaking of susellefags, they'd often default to suselle dooming when spamming pedo memes didn't work.Time will tell if the positive trend of reasonable, good faith kressfags continues.
>>84222508>Time will tell if the positive trend of reasonable, good faith kressfags continues.I hope so, i'm starting to not mind the healthy kressfags. I just wish the others would stop posting pedoshit of an unrelated ship in the kriselle thread.
What the fuck is this, the gossip general?
What do we think of Susie having a lighter colored tummy?
>>84223201Yes, newfag-sama.
>>84223235After careful thought, I've concluded that it neither enhances nor diminishes my enjoyment of Sooz bod.
>>84223235soogie....easy on the chalk...
I think I may have posed this last year after Chapter 3+4, so it'd be fun to see it now:Show me your favorite SusieWhether it's solo or krusie, sfw or lewd, I'd like to know what you consider your absolute favorite (if you have it on hand).Eggs Over Hard Mode: Describe why its your fav, to the best of your ability.Eggs Over Lunatic Mode: Can't be an image already posted in the threadEggs Over Phantasm Mode: It can't be /that/ image. If you know, you know.
>>84224002>Eggs Over Hard ModeIt's just nice to see her so carefree and physically intimate with someone, like she can put down all of her barriers.
The egg goes into the fridge right?
>>84224002>Eggs Over Hard ModeI'm just a giant Pokemon nerd and need more Pokemon Susie. Susie dressing Pokemon attire (whether Trainer or as a Pokemon) would be cool.
>>84224002>It can't be /that/ image.Susling...
>>84224002
>>84224457Susan doesn't have tits this big
>>84224634Okay Burghley
>>84224634What are the odds this is the last time Kris ever sees Susie?
>>84224730If it isn't, it'll be the last time Susie sees Kris in a form she's comfortable with.
>>84224730Weird route is absolutely having a Susie or Susie+Ralsei boss fight.
>>84224948And a Kris one. Where Kris finally stands up to us.
>>84224730On weird route maybe. Canon ending is them kissing. If Toby didn't chicken out with Alphyne in Undertale, then we have krusie kiss in the bag.
>>84224948Nah. We already gonna fight Susie on Normal so I don't think we get second one on weird route.
https://x.com/Amaiiuwu/status/2078093742897283421Kris has to hold their bangs
>>84224730I'm leaning towards no, Susie will see Kris in the WR again. But if Sword Route is any indication, it will be a horrifying reunion.
>>84224002I've seen a lot of different looks, but in my mind this comes the closest to the kind of smile Kris would see and believe it to blow away all the darkness.
>>84224982I think it's way too late for that, anon. The most we're gonna get on weird route is Kris willing himself to regain control one last time, just long enough to stop us via self-sacrifice. Chapter 5's Weird Ending really seems like this was your last chance to not totally subsume Kris's autonomy, after this it's full mind control puppet I think.
>>84225113Ah yes, this is THE smile.
>>84225003Susie is a big sister to Ralsei and Noelle. She's a bro with Kris. It's the main reason their romance make the most sense.
>>84224002The first bit of Susie fanart I've ever saved. Her eyes are very pretty here, and I think every brooding Susie image I've seen always gets it right. As dumb as this girl can be, I think she probably does a lot of thinking.You tend to do that when you're alone.
>>84225003
>>84225113>>84225247We once talked about how it was impossible for Kris to NOT be in love with how Kris's thoughts were running in this scene, and it seems like we were on the same wavelength as Toby here.
Huh...do Kris and Susie look a little different to you guys?
>>84225461Cute
>>84225247The "thanks for walking me home" smile...
>>84224002A very difficult question, because there are so many Susies and I love them all dearly, but I really like Toby's super old pre-Undertale Susie concepts
>>84225248I think that’s the point in why that romance is never happening in canon, if you can see them like siblings the line sorta ends there
>>84225461Looks like the same dynamic as always to be>human girl and large purple friend of dubious origin
>>84225536It feels so far away... Like I don't remember if it was at the end of chapter 3 or 4... Chapter 4 actually, but it was just after she broke the prophecy panel and took a dive from there.Don't worry, my uncooperative vessel is still bearing a knife everywhere they go, I'm willing to make them use it in a very lovey-dovey manner if needs be, so they can feel her feebly heartbeat through the handle of the knife one last time.
>>84225541Don't forget, proto-Susie is basically Maya Fey, you got to protect and cherish that dumb teenager.
>>84225761>making Kris an incel and spitting on Rudy’s grave and wishes for his daughter/sus/ has truly stooped low
>>84224002An earlier piece of Krusie art.Not even particularly romantic. Just the two of them falling safely asleep in each other's arms.
>>84225887Rudy's wishes mean nothing if Kris made a promise to keep Noelle out of Dark Worlds. Susie made the worst choice and she'll have to suffer the consequences. She's on her own weird route there. Too bad, it could have been so much better.
>>84226005You see to forget, Rudy was rooting for his girl to bag the girl she loved, to take a big step in making her move as well as wishing she could be braver. Killing Susie directly goes against the things he wished for Noelle
>>84225741by "bro" i meant real friend and because she's the opposite sex than Kris it makes her the biggest wife material
>>84225968That's actually one of the first images I saved (and ended up coloring - what are the odds!)
In case nobody has noticed, there’s a magma in the unrelated archive. Feel free to join if you want.https://magma.com/d/SyGBcWriPxPic unrelated, this one is mostly empty.
>>84226049No wonder the Angel made him fall off a ladder, ahah, how ironic...Reminds me of that tragedy.
>>84226083People of the opposite sex can still just be friends, besides, Kris is an either or. Kris might be a guy or just another tomboy on the sea of hometowns whopping 3 total
>>84225887Bit unfair to assume we all think that.>Rudy's graveJumping the gun, aren't you? He's not dead yet, but it's not looking good for him.
It's interesting that susie is implied to break the story/prophecy and Noelle CAN break the games/attract weird glitches its a neat parallel.
>>84226165Its clear that Toby see Kris as female and Susie's future boyfriend
>>84224002I wouldn't say this is anywhere close to my favorite, but for some reason it holds a special place in my heart.Part of it is: sometimes when I'm looking at fanart, I like to imagine what the me of 2018 would think seeing Deltarune fanart (or as I would think of it, Undertale 2 fanart) out of context, before Chapter 1 came out. This was one of the first pieces I did that with, and my conclusion was I would've thought these two would be an antagonist duo to you, possibly in a lower stakes, "Frisk (or whoever the player character would be) living a more mundane life" type of setting. It would be an interesting thing where you'd think "oh, monsters and humans have adapted to living together so well, there are interspecies bully duos running around" but also probably hate these pricks whenever they show up to cause you problems (until Frisk sorts them out later, of course)
>>84226240I think you messed up in what you were trying to say there
>>84226240>Kris is girl>will be boyfriendMan I know femkris truthers are delusional but I didn't realize they were this schizo
>>84226168If Noelle fumbles her mean girl he’s gonna have a stroke and die out of spite so he can go 1v1 god cause he knows Noelle was 100% gonna score but someone cheated her out of the W, he knows his girl has game
>>84226358The only options are king and queen even when Noelle and Kris used to play, someone has to take the boyfriend roll no matter who plays
>>84219336I thought she was grabbing the bottle with her feet.I don't even like feet.
rejection has led Kris to dark places
>>84226550
>>84226550>I don't kiss I bite.>You smell delicious!>Hey do you like biting during sex?
>>84226550SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
>>84224002for a lewd option. has to be this one. Part because of just how fucking good it isbut also how I remember being the one to suggest (though jelly probably would've done it anyway) that kris should lift up her bangs to look her in the eyes in the last one.
>>84226383Noelle could scream "I WOULD SIP EGGNOG FROM YOUR DINO PUSSY IN BUCKETS IF THAT WAS EVER POSSIBLE" to Susie and Susie reciprocate in the most naive, childish way, because she doesn't really love her, she doesn't even know what is love. Susie doesn't play that game. A date is just a way to make a new friend to her.And to be fair, Noelle's love for Susie is quite insane, not really authentic at all, her dad is trying to enable her in this unhealthy obsession (from the get go, remember her licking the water fountain after Susie drank from it, goddammit).Because he had this kind of "best bros forever" relationship with Asgore doesn't mean it would work out the same way with Susie. They'll both drag each other down: Susie is not able to think like a lover and choose what's best for Noelle, while Noelle is just not able to say "no". This'll end in tears.
>>84226636Susie would have no idea how to do a blowjob. She is too clueless to even know how to kiss someone.
>>84226709>A date is just a way to make a new friend to her.She obviously reciprocates deeply despite not understanding the concept.
>>84226712it's not about skill, it's about passion
Suzy Undertale
>>84226724She reciprocates this much because she was taught by Ralsei how to do it by the book. But below surface level, she showed her egoistic, selfish side of her again. She regressed so she could win the doe. Nothing more.
>>84226734Something to be said about the joys of experiencing clumsy intimacy for the first time with someone you trust completely.Just another fucking thing I love about this duo (though I don't usually see it explored) is thinking about stupid things like that.
>>84226709>>84226817To add to this, I'd be harsher by saying the date wasn't really a way to make or consolidate a friendship (unlike in UT), but to take Noelle from Kris, if Susie didn't lie at the end of chapter 5. She doesn't want to love, she want to possess what Kris supposedly (and wrongly) has, like a dragon inevitably hoarding things and people like prizes. This was absolutely detrimental to the evolution of her character and absolutely intended if you look at the subtext (like her rudeness value going back from 89 to 100 in chapter 5).
>>84226885Oh shit this must the same artist. I only have the first two pages.
>>84226709>not authenticExcept it really is, every time she’s brought up on her crush she’s tried to learn about Susie, her interest, the kind of person she is, and tried to engage with her like back in chapter 1 with how she tries to volunteer to go but after alphys tells Kris to do it she asks Kris to say hi for her as well as suggesting Susie probably isn't so bad. She’s accepting of whatever kind of person Susie was or chose to be and even the idea of being rejected as long as they can still be friends and even then still assumed Susie didn’t like her but still never actually turned on Susie like most of the class. She’s shown and implied to have always cared and that’s even just with only face value Susie. It’s a lot strong to say that out of all current Noelle stuff the most authentic parts are her views on Kris and Susie, the former connected directly to the latter because Susie is like Kris in many ways about being a layered kind of person who she think about often even if she doesn’t always get them.For a girl stated to be scared of even Santa to constantly ask her dad and closest friends about how to get to know the scariest person around, it says a lot about how highly she thinks of just one person who realistically has no smites or has done anything nice to her that even she assumes would possibly not be nice to her. That’s a one of a kind feeling
>>84226958Only three they ever made, sadly. Their twitter account is gone, too. I miss all the talented artists over the years who moved on.
>>84226958Noelle would have been better at this, but Susie would have been a better wife in a stable relationship
>>84227018Twitter's done a good job of fucking artists over, especially as of late.The internet in general is not a nice place for artists right now. But the best thing people can do is to just keep creating.Ah well, I got all three now. I had always wondered if there was a page after this one here.
>>84226976Noelle's crush is authentic, the reason for it is not. It's not romantic love. It's a one of a kind feeling, yes. It's what I would qualify as a "Thelma & Louise" couple: they have shitty lives (in opposite social settings), they want to escape, they're only willing to be together and do dyke things because they know it will end in a car crash.That's why I think their relationship is inauthentic, they both do it for different, yet petty reasons. No future, no stability in sight.
>>84227278Noelle has a future in mind, th only character that really doesn’t would be Susie and it’s not due to Noelle but her own situation, she can’t really go to college, not enough money or grades to go, she even brings it up with Kris but that’s the thing about the hammer game’s truth: Susie will drag Kris to go nowhere with her. She openly jokes about doing such and with the game they are the only option to not finish it or even try. Their dynamic is one where the end result doesn’t work if Kris weren’t someone she now viewed as the same, someone with no actual future. Someone like her that doesn’t have actual goals to go anywhere or do anything. It’s also why she doesn’t bring up Noelle on that topic despite wanting her involved, she knows Noelle has an actual future and she doesn’t want to drag her down. Noelle and Susie could go anywhere Noelle has the means and power to do so if she gains real courage, but she can also just choose to take things as Susie’s pace like the game and actually try to push her forward in a naturally pace so they move together without leaving the other like with the game and how she explained the way it’s supposed to work instead of just moving on. Noelle has always been show to be the one most capable of just going forward instead of absolutely getting hung up on the past on her own but with Kris and Susie, she’d stoop the their level because it’s something she’d want to do, she’d ignore her own ability to succeed for someone else she cares for. It’s a large different between NR & WR Noelle
Love me some nervous, inexperienced krusie sexxo
>>84227534NTA but honestly my main issue with Suselle is it just makes Noelle a very uninteresting character. It just feels like Susie doing stuff and Noelle following along okay to do basically anything Susie wants. Noelle doesn't really have any real agency or character she's just living for susie. Like solely from a meta perspective looking at it it just feels a bit boring, you know?
>>84227768the top right face is the best of it all
>https://youtu.be/oqxcJ-v09Uk
>>84227534>Noelle has always been show to be the one most capable of just going forward instead of absolutely getting hung up on the past on her own but with Kris and Susie, she’d stoop the their level because it’s something she’d want to do, she’d ignore her own ability to succeed for someone else she cares forI hope you didn't forget, but there's a prophecy that looms over their heads. It looks like, whatever is the domineering relationship in this triangle of "love", it will destroy someone in the process. Even with courage to move forward or escape with either Susie or Kris, Noelle seems fated to have the world give her a big middle finger and put her back into her place. If only it wasn't all about her...
>>84227839Which is funny, because in the Weird Route Noelle's personality gets so intense that she overrides Kris and the player's inputs.That girl's got issues.
>>84227839Well she’s still shy now, it’s an issue the game always brings to the front and contrarily looms above all things related to her, her entire arc is about going beyond this. In WR she does it in an in organic and forced way resulting in the girl just trying to escape town and grow wings, something the normal Noelle also wants but can’t do. The logical outcome of 6 is her finally building that confidence to actually move forward on her own terms. To make a move that directly reveals the kind of person she actually wants to be.
>>84228090I mean that's all well and good, but like, that doesn't really do anything for suselle, for me. You can't just vaugely gesture at chapter 6 as an idea of making it all better. We've had this thing kind of built up for 5 chapters we cant just use 6 as a massive dumping ground for it when basically every other character has their developments to work on.
>>84228156Right now the only viable outcome to me looks like>"I need to date this strong and uncontainable dragon girl because she can escape from monotony in ways I don't know how. If I don't have that I will literally kill myself"Of course, completely unaware that Susie fucking loves monotony and wants every day to be exactly the same as long as everyone is happy.
>>84227278There is nowhere at any point in the story that suggests a permanent fallout is inbound nor does conflict equal a failed relationship. Everyone always brings up rudy’s death but is that really enough to make them breakup?
Also, one of the reasons I would like Suselle to fall apart is because it would be a big consequence of susie's actions. I like susie, but I also feel like she lacks any real major character flaws? Basically everything she does seems to work out flawlessly(even if not immeidately, eventually). If Suselle ends up working out too it feels like this entire plot will just be Susie doing whatever the fuck she wants and it almost always working out, and while it's been endearing so far, I feel like if that continues into the endgame it may start to chafe.
>>84224151In chapter 1? Yes.But I think that after chapter 2, you stopped being able to put it places. Temmie winds up with them anyways, on Berdly's desk.
>>84225104He'll meet Susie, but not *his* Susie.I think WR and normal eventually crossover at one point. And by that point, Noelle just sees Susie as an NPC (literally or figuratively), and tries to kill her with WR Kris being forced to by the SOUL.
>>842281565 chapters of her barely being around anon, she has only gotten to interact with Susie one other time before 5 in a real convo and that was at the end of 4. Thee isn’t that much to even sort out when it comes down to it because all that has to happen with Susie is a love understanding and Noelle her confidence boost which doesn’t take a whole chapter on top of there being more than enough time to keep building from where the festival left them. For them it’s very uncomplicated due to Noelle having a neutral or good stating point from Susie’s on perspective on her
>>84228411I feel like that's more of a pacing problem then anything, you shouldn't have to spend time justifying a ship after it's been done and we're essentially in the endgame. That aside, I think that spending a chapter on building up Noelle to make her place in suselle better would ultimately HARD cement Kris as basically a side character who exists solely to build up others so they can be happy, and when it looks like the kid is about to suck start a shotgun that doesn't sit too well with me. Everything about Suselle just feels like it comes at the detriment of Kris, leaning into that even more would just be kind of painful and is one of the big things that sours the whole thing for me. Like no I don't think Susie is obligated to suck Kris' dick because he's a sadboy emo but it's not exactly narratively satisfying to see suselle be borne off of the effort of mostly Kris to his own detriment.
Talking is so exhausting. I don't know how people can do it for this long.
>>84228411That sounds like really boring, uncomplicated yurislop to me. So I guess you're Toby's target audience.
>>84228090>The logical outcome of 6 is her finally building that confidence to actually move forward on her own terms. To make a move that directly reveals the kind of person she actually wants to be.I'll go a little meta, but I can only see Noelle resolving to stand for what she wants to be very late in the story. Like beyond the Normal Route. Her self-actualization cannot happen without self-reflection first. And whatever pertained to Toby's fever dream is likely the outcome of this actualization.>>84228252I'm not considering a breakup. Especially because NR Noelle doesn't have the courage to say "no" to anyone nor have the awareness to see the impeding doom ahead. The story suggests many possible paths to go right into it. Even "aborted" WR Noelle might do nothing to prevent it, because, even with more guts, she's not considering Kris in her equation, and that's a fault.
>>84228278So why not Krusie failing if that’s how you feel about current susie
>>84228677I mean, Krusie isn't exactly the currently built up relationship, is it? Just because I want Susie to eat shit so she can realize that she cant keep just rushing into everything and having it work out so she can become a more well rounded character doesn't mean I hate her or anything. I like Susie as a character, which means I want her to have meaningful flaws because I think that makes characters better.
>>84228545Not every relationship has to be some complicated stuff, some people are just normal and don’t have problems related to their relationship. Your reminding me of marvel editorial and Spider-Man
>>84228734The issue with spiderman isn't that one more day happened, it's that one more day happened and was never resolved. A similar thing happened to wally west over at DC, and people are okay with it because he realized his mistakes and got his family and kids back. Peter never got his family and kids back and One More Day was never resolved, hence people hate it.
>>84228720Yeah, her friendship with Kris failing is far more impactful if that’s what you want for susie. From goal conflict to what either wants before even bringing up traitor stuff, all of those are far more deeply affecting that Noelle who she’s barely started dating and is still trying to understand
>>84228797The Kris fallout is likely going to be from the Knight stuff, which isn't something Susie actually did or contributed to, so it wouldn't really inform her character much less count as a flaw against her that she's suffering from as a consequence of her actions
Also, assuming you mean the stuff about Kris wanting to close the fountain and Susie not wanting to close the grand fountain and them coming into conflict because of that. That's also not really a character flaw? It is conflicting actions and traits that would put them at an impasse and would make Susie feel bad, but not wanting to kill all your friends and destroy a a place you call home isn't really a character flaw, per se.
>>84228734>"Hi, Toby? Give me the boring relationship where the characters blush every time they talk and all their character growth is just telling each other to love themselves! With some boiled chicken and diet water, please!"
here's my issue with suselle and noelleher story has so much that *could* be happening, her sick father, her missing sister, her old friendship with kris, even her crush on susie. but it is only the latter *she* seems to care about because it's only that the writer(s) seem to care about. Partially due to toby's habit of dumping all the major plot stuff in the final acts just to keep a mystery and vibes going, but it really detracts from her character.There may not be problems in the relationship with susie, but there are certainly problems in her life she seems totally fine ignoring, even THAT desire to ignore, itself, could be an interesting character thread to follow, but it's not that deep.
>>84228788OMD was resolved what the issue is is that marvel flat out tells their teams that no one can undo it so Peter & Mj aren’t actually allowed back together in the main universe, anywhere else sure but mainline never again and every filler after fizzles out due to them trying to force either the same old conflict of late Parker or just making an abstract reason Peter can’t date someone else for more than like a week because he’s still hung up on MJ
>>84229159I don't think anyone considers the One Moment In Time stuff a proper resolution to OMD. Like from a standpoint of pure in universe plot points sure I GUESS Mephisto doesn't have a claim on his soul anymore and it's now doctor strange who did everything, but the whole point of having a hero lose their most important thing is so they can regain it again, and Spiderman never did that. Sure you can use this as an argument that Suselle will come back together after an argument and shit I kind of believe it, but I don't think selling your marriage to the devil and lying to your girlfriend are really the same thing
Ships are not something outside of the narrative, they are something *inside* the narrative. That's unfortunately something many writers don't understand. Ships need to match the quality of the narrative, and they need to be used for character growth. Krusie already does that by default. That's why it's so likeable. That's why it's so *good*. As Camille's Harem said, part of Deltarune *is* Krusie. Part of Deltarune *is* watching Kris and Susie's relationship.Does Suselle show character growth in both of Susie and Noelle? It's a difficult question to answer.In chapter 2, Noelle is meant to have learned how to stand up for herself. In chapter 4, she doesn't, because she thought it was a dream.In chapter 5, she does only because Susie forces her to. This is *not* character progression. The game explicitly says so. In aborted Ch. 5 WR, Noelle explicitly thinks "Nothing changed. Because a Noelle... is just a Noelle."Let's look over the Susie side of things. Many people will say Suselle is meant to show how Susie stopped putting herself down and opened up to friendships. However that is a lesson she learns with *Kris*. Not with Noelle.
>Spider-man discourse>Suselle vs Krusie breakdownsLads if I wanted to argue about suselle id just log into twitter. Besides we all know who wins at the end of things
What if Susie stole gunpla from Berdly or Alphys and took it to a dark world?
>>84229491Berdly would be nowhere near based enough to build a Gelgoog, he'd have a master grade strike freedom and think that shit's from 00 gundam
>>84229491Considering that the Knight actually breaks Tenna and cuts down Flowery's flower, she can straight up destroy objects in the light world - so while it'd put up a decent fight, it'd probably fall in the end.Would be cool if the Knight decides to aurafarm and turn giant to have a proper mecha battle though.
>>84229491I heard a Monoeye flash at the end there.
>>84229534The Gelgoog is a grunt mech and The Knight is a hero unit, unless that Gelgoog is painted Salmon, Crimson red, or White it dies immediately and somehow explodes from having its head cut off
>>84229491It’d probably go apeshit or become depressed assuming the model>>84229509Berdly would be a casual wouldn’t he? Alphys would at least have started Gundam Wing, but dropped it to watch To Love Ru for the millionth time. Undyne is at this point just waiting to arrest her, she just needs a reason now
>>84229592>Berdly would be a casual wouldn’t he?Hence joking about getting a SEED kit, getting a strike is just about the most basic bitch thing you can do aside from getting the good ol rx-78. The Gelgoog is in this weird place where it's not as iconic as the gundams but not as goofy as other zeon grunt mechs like the Zock or Juaggu, so berdly having specifically a gelgoog and not even one of the cool alts like Johnny Ridden's would be extremely odd. It'd be like getting a Marasai, who the fuck has a Marasai.
>>84229213Except no one like OMD in the first place, Peter lost something because the forced him to regress as a character and not just let his aunt pass of natural causes for no real reason. The only real resolution is just removing the entire thing or actually going past it, that conclusion isn’t allowed by editorial and as such OMD will never actually go away because they want Peter ‘relatable’ and OMD and OMT both regress and perpetually keep him stuck to a position where he has not grown or really developed since and can’t even grow up any further. If the mandates didn’t exist OMT would be fine since we’d have been long past the core of the issue
>>84229645>>84229509He would be cool in my eyes if he had a Byarlant
>>84229645Maybe Berdly is a fan of the of series but I highly doubt it. The gelgoog is cool though, not my favorite but I like its beefiness. Zaku I and Asshimar are top tier, Quebley is goated too
>>84228952HS:BC sounds just your style
>>84229781Berdly would be gay enough to like Unicorn, I could buy it. I bet he even has Unicorn Gundam like the larper he is (I actually like unicorn but you didn't hear that from me)
>>84229867What mobile suit would characters from Deltarune realistically drive? I feel like Susie would get thrown in a gun cannon while Kris would get stuck in a mindrape machine.
>>84230108Realistically or what they would like to use? Realistically everyone's getting stuck in a GM whereas Kris gets stuck in some newtype fuck machine like the Braw Bro or ElmethIn terms of what they would actually LIKE to drive> Susie in the Zaku Headed Zeta Gundam: she generally fucks with ZZ and Judau's antics and finds the prospect hilarious>Kris in the Gundam Mark II: It's a protagonist suit, and they relate to Kamille (and Susie already took the Zeta)>Ralsei in the GM Cannon: he likes the simplicity of the GM and likes support roles>Noelle in the Alpha Aizeru: fucked up newtype machine for fucked up teenagers being groomed by fucked up men with mommy issues (SHE COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE A MOTHER TO ME, SUSIE) Serious answer is probably the Qubely or something
>>84230238>Kris and Noelle stuck as pilots in matching Qubely’s getting mindfucked by the machineMight be the /doe/ in me. But there’s a romantic tragedy in that that I really like.How about Carol, Rudy, Asgore, and Toriel? I feel like there is some potential for Toriel for reasons
>We’re on eastruneWhat kind of tokusatsu is deltarune and who’s actually a rider/sentai?
>>84230351>Carol: Gundam Spiegel because like come on man it can't be anything else >Asgore: Dozle Zabi's zaku 2, Beefy melee zaku with a fuck off huge axe and gold inlays with piloted by a royal (though, asgore would not like Dozle Zabi very much)>Toriel: THE BIG ZAM LIKE THE FAT FUCKING BITCH SHE IS (seriously though I got nothing for Toriel, she doesn't really do much)
>>84230427>torielWhich gundams are known for fire outside of that one with burning hand?
>>84230452Shenlong gundam from wing, I guess. That doesn't really fit Toriel at all.Rudy can have the Ball because just like the Ball his entire screen presence seems to be fucking dying
>>84230427>Gundam Spiegel Oooh that’s a deep cut, I like itToriel is the barely holding it together mother, maybe g40 rx78-2? Since it has that motherly voice beckoning for amuro to be inside it? Or maybe Psycho Gundam?>>84230505Facts lol
>>84230376Kris kind of fits Kamen rider W given he's two dudes in one. At least it would be if Kris wasn't such a fag and didn't let us lock in
>>84230505Rudy isn’t dying, he’s having a 1v1 with monster cancer. He caught it because he feared it would get Noelle so he’s gonna kill it and win
>>84230609What about OOO, Kaguya, or Amazon?
>>84230632not gonna lie anon I know fuck all about tokusatsu, I only know W because he got into SRW.
>>84230682Your words cut deep, deeper than any blade
>>84230238Kris pretends to be moody enough for the Gundam Mark II, but secretly longs for the Shining Gundam.
>>84230632Susie is very obviously OOO Putotyra. Although I should point out she quotes Momotaros in the Japanese script for chapter 2 because the climax will never shut the fuck up.
>>84230769I cannot believe Kris' mumbly ass could pull off a "THIS HAND OF MIND GLOWS WITH AN AWESOME POWER"
Susie in these clothes
why do /doe/posters use this place more than their own general
>>84230949is doe known for mecha talk or something I don't get it
>>84230949i imagine that>wow that one weird route scene was pretty good hey>yeah it wasgets boring pretty fucking quickly
Do you personally ascribe to the idea that monsters are just generally taller than humans or that Kris in particular is a manlet
>>84231099Kris being a manlet is funnier.
>>84231099Heh heh.
>>84231099Krisp a short boye
>>84231099Ahem
>>84231111I probably should've elaborated that I was asking seriously because most people would just say manlet lmao. >>84231150Isn't this kind of tiny given Asgore is 11'8. Is this a hamster trying to eat a banana ass relationship
>>84231178Yeah, and I still think Kris being a manlet is both funny but also works well, for multiple reasons:It makes Kris a scrappy little human that goes through all kinds of shit, their feats of extreme strength all the more poignant and also funny. A little guy protagonist is easy to root for.That and size difference is hot, and I picture Susie is NOTABLY taller than Kris.
>>84231178>Is this a hamster trying to eat a banana ass relationshipYes, this is why store still single, nobody except toriel (and maybe Rudy) can take his cock.
>>84231226I too am a massive size difference-fag, but Kris needn't be a manlet for that if Monsters are in general just super tall. Besides it's hotter if susie is actually tall tall and that requires Kris not just being short because then Susie's only like, a bit above average. Granted who fucking knows how tall Susie actually is given sprites aren't accurate to size differences.
>>84231254Asgore's dick is considered a lethal weapon in all of the lower 48 states and that's why he's forced to live in some random nowhere town
goodnight sus
>>84231178Kris being short does not preclude them from being the biggest ass-kicker in the game aside from the Knight maybe. They are quiet, inexpressive, small, and lack any prominent features like their neighbors besides a mop of brown, unkempt hair. They're supposed to be as unassuming as possible to contrast with their center-stage presence in Dark World battles.
I'm sorry krusie (and other Kris ship) bros, but Kris was taken away by human government, there's too few humans remaining so he will fuck only human women for an entire year
I remind you, Kris was so good Kris is a Trilogy
>>84231323>Kris coming back to hometown years later as the father of some 30 children. How would Susie and Noelle react? I know Toriel is over the moon
>>84230238Susie would use Gusion rebake
>>84231323Time for the heist of the century by Susie and Noelle.
>>84231323>>84231472>Kris comes back with the biggest frown on his face>the first thing he says is "I miss tail" with the tone of a kicked puppy
s u c c
>>84224002Still my favorite nsfw piece. In a sea of tourist artists making porn off whatevers popular in the moment, it's nice to find someone who is also hopelessly rotted for these characters (and is more than happy to show their loving)
>>84231481Nah if she’s going for a IBO frame she’s gonna do gusion as a proper hammer wielding turtle.
>>84231717Komu loves Krusie, and yet she completely misses the point of these characters and their relationship.
I'm getting my 25 dollars of fun KrisDrop me some doodle reqs if you wanna
Susie's anti-nigger opinions
>>84232651(You) forcing Kris to flirt as nasty as possible with Susie.
>>84232469I wouldn't say that's true even if her SFW work mostly focuses on the softer intimacy of Krusie. I think it's a much-desired quality in addition to the cartoon wackiness that's common nowadays.Her NSFW work, though... Well, that's just her being horny for human on monster sex.
>>84232651Kris making the yabba face
>>84232651Kris as Griffith.Or maybe a young Kris being very Aqua
>>84232729
>>84232651Kris and Yellow
>>84232651Kris and Susie watching and giving their two cents on the last movie you watched.
>>84232651Noelle wearing Kris' sweater and trying to pretend that it's no big deal
>>84230238I'd say crossbone Gundam for Kris.
>>84232651Susie looking depressed working as the cashier at San’s. Reminiscing on the past 10 years after the roaring
>>84232666Sometimes I forget how long she was drawing for, there's a ton of images I didn't even know were from her until I checked pixiv.
>>84228560>because NR Noelle doesn't have the courage to say "no"Forcing Noelle to enter a miserable "throuple" that she's too pussy to say no too and Susie is naive enough to go for (and she also feels guilty for interfering with Kris and Noelles thing)
>>84233146Toby's real self-insert
>>84232674Those eggs were sure worth it
>>84232651Kris and Susie as Bart Simpson and Laura Powers.
>>84232651Veth looking nervous as hell and puny while holding a Barrett M82.
>>84232651Kris shaking Jade Harley's hand, Dog to dog communication most occur
>>84232936>after the roaringSo just Susie as a lone survivor? The Roaring kills literally everyone remember?
>>84233490Good point, after high school then. I’d assume Kris and Noelle would run off to college leaving her alone because she hated the idea of moving again.It does irk me in the sense that there’s a good chance this game just ends with everyone dead/moving on to Undertale’s universe.
>>84233535Undertale is post-scratch Deltarune ;)
>>84233542so who's ecto baby are Kris & Susie then anon?
>>84232651Kris topping the Player and afterwards cuddling in bed watching shitty meme comps on a phone
>>84233535In WR Susie brings up going to college, but Kris is either "beats me" or "I'm not going if you don't". So yeah, I don't see them separating ever.
>>84233535>I’d assume Kris and Noelle would run off to college leaving her alone because she hated the idea of moving again.Depends, If Noelle's relationship works out she's likely to actually just not go and instead go off on her own with Susie away from town. While she could easily go to college she's never really spoken of looking forward to it, the one time she really talks about life beyond now was wanting to leave town.Kris is much the same, no real desire to go or no explicit want go the college as far as we've been able to observe. When it comes to thinking on the whole college topic, it reminds me the Deltarune is kinda just magical NITW and Susie is somehow a weird mix of Mae & Bea. Even if she were to make it to collage, it doesn't feel like it would be helpful to her, same for all 3 of them. They really do feel like Mae's friend group of a bunch of people who are technically more than functional and have jobs, apart from Mae herself, but not one of them honestly seems super happy when they aren't hanging out. One of the major conflicts was how Bea couldn't go due to her family situation in the first place yet Mae went and came back and she felt upset over the whole fact she couldn't even have the opportunity she felt Mae wasted; point being College is kinda mid and over hyped if we're being real here
>>84233598>WRI feel that response comes from WR context, Kris realizes that they are gonna die no matter what due to where the route is going. Thinking about the future that they won't even see doesn't matter
>>84233146>>84233177That's not realistic. Susie may feel some guilt for her own jealousy, but Noelle is HER trophy now and she is making sure that Kris knows that by delimiting their shared spaces.>The lake? Nah, only me and Noelle now, sorry.>Our rooms in Castle Town? Noelle's is connected with mine only, sorry.>She's mine but you can still watch for a distance, okay?It is indeed kind of a miserable "throuple" if you consider Kris as a third wheel. But the story got to make you understand that either a "throuple", Suselle, Kriselle, Krusie, etc. will doom the world because in either case, there are possession dynamics, misunderstanding and jealousy that will inevitably lead to the sacrifice of someone.I used to be a Krusie soldier, but I drowned into Kriselle sweet poison lately. I know deep inside that Noelle is the key to dissolving this tragedy and as this discussion made me realize, she might be the only one with enough drive to change things. Her self-actualization should be about gaining her freedom by distancing herself from both Kris and Susie. The former already did, the latter is only possible by making sure they never cross paths. "Only then, will the worlds be saved."
>>84233641>But the story got to make you understand that either a "throuple"With the exception of the goat, effortless pull
>>84233662Treehugging do not apply.
>>84233629I disagree, in fact I don't think most of the WR change how they feel about each other.Otherwise why even bother responding to that, or any convo they have. Kris doesn't know what's going to happen (nor does the player in that moment for that matter) -- hell you can even abort the WR and that convo will still have happened.
>>84233641That's just depressing. Some soldier you are.Unless you mean Noelle becoming some sort of ephemeral goddess a la Lain ending, always with you in the dark, but even that would be bittersweet at best.
>>84233684Because saying nothing isn't an option anymore, just like walking away isn't. WR has already ruined things deeply as even aborting in 4 has consequences as Noelle flat out silently turns against Kris to a degree. The moment Kris dares to suggest riding with her on the Ferris wheel she refuses flat out and says Kris isn't making her do anything and gives a look to them while also talking straight to the soul or whatever she deemed the other side of Kris at that point.WR is already greatly tainted and more or less a dead end even if you abandon it, Kris knows it, you've ruined whatever friendship still remained around so it really doesn't matter anymore. Whatever comes next won't fix what's been tainted.
>>84233641If you dropped krusie because of a bunch of scenarios you made up in your head, doesn't really sound like you were that invested to begin with.Not to mention, who the fuck ever gave a shit about ships being canon in order to support them? Dishonorable discharge, soldier.
>>84233734>The moment Kris dares to suggest riding with her on the Ferris wheel she refuses flat outThere's an unused version where she teases Kris for making her think ch2 adventure was a dream, and the normal route sequence still plays without problem if you do the prerequisites.
>>84233744>Not to mention, who the fuck ever gave a shit about ships being canon in order to support them?NTA but it affects an aforementioned part of what's been going on now: Artists no longer drawing or investing time in creating stuff for Krusie to begin with. Even with something like UNRELATED being good intention, all of the threads artfags are basically busy now
>>84233641I actually agree with you anon, about the bad dynamic anyway, and this shit comes up in all "poly" relationships which is why every single one is a degenerate failure. I thought Toby understood this with the Rouxls joke plotline in ch3 but it seems like he doesn't and is actually going to make it the ending in some attempt to please all fans, when in reality it will please no one except the most braindead slop enjoyers who are currently lapping up Suselle.
>/doe/fags abandoning their thread to discuss Noelle elsewhere >again
>>84233734That's great an all but it doesn't really reach my point. WR or not I'm not seeing a reason why Kris would lie about wanting to stay with her.Especially in a normal route, with their bond as strong as it is, what reason would Kris have for ditching Susie and leaving her behind after saving the world together? Unless you think even a good ending leaves them not friends??
>>84233764Rouxls isn't exactly a good example, the problem in that throuple came down to him actually being unbearable as an individual, it's directly even referenced that one of his only traits was being good looking. It's alot like Berdly in chapter 2 with how, despite being her ally, Queen basically despises him because of just how annoying he actually is. Everytime the issue in the situation isn't directed as all parties are part of the issue but flat out one specific part is hurting the rest of it because the other two were fine before he arrived and were already together before he showed up, he didn't organically join either, he just showed up and inserted himself in the middle, he fails to try and actually mesh with either of them as well. Throuples and poly aren't great but using him as an example is kinda just not exactly a valid point given almost no one likes him in the first place
>>84233764At least a small chunk of them started seeing Kris's feelings (e.g. picrel is from a jap susellefag). Only took dropping a literal cucknuke in their faces.
>>84233763Sure, if can affect you if you're a fucking crybaby doomer, which I guess tracks seeing what led to Unrelated cropping up in the first place.Imagine not investing time creating something you like that you have for years because suddenly there's romantic tension and there's a chance a game developer may not end the story with a sappy confession like you wanted. 90% of fanfic writers seem to have zero problem with this! I guess its a problem if you care more about "winning" than you do about the ship dynamic.Meanwhile I'm drafting another krusie story, and my folders fills up with more saved art everyday. Sorry people here are so miserable but it sounds like a skill issue to me.
>>84233716>Unless you mean Noelle becoming some sort of ephemeral goddess a la Lain ending, always with you in the dark, but even that would be bittersweet at best.That's what I have in mind. Post-drowning scenes give us a peek of Noelle's thought process in the backrooms of the game, working desperately at making things change. She's no Lain though, she's not a goddess made flesh, but a NPC made playable and trying hard to break character. Being stuck in the dark might still be a temporary purgatory.>>84233744I didn't drop it. I still think it's the only viable ship if post-roaring Hometown is still a thing, but Susie will need her own self-actualization by then, a huge one where she learns to be less selfish and not regress every time she gets something Kris has (basically how not to turn into a dragon).>>84233774The forbidden path began with >>84224002. I took the nostalgia bait and the challenge from >>84225536. Weird how things turned out.
>>84233786Same reason he hasn't told her the truth of the plan and has openly gone behind her back at nearly every possible turn. Susie is fairly gullible, just saying what she wants to hear makes dealing with her, and keeping her out of focus & in the dark, much easier than having to try and deal with her catching on to things being wrong. Just like how in the Ferris wheel ride, Kris says nothing and just keeps to themselves and Susie has to try to cheer Kris up but Kris still never brings up the issue.>What reasonPlenty, if everything works out then Kris actually moves on from Dess and the old days and gets ready to actually move forward with their own life. There the scenario where closing the Dark Worlds for good really is the breaking point of what their connection ends at, the theory that Susie was intended to be sacrificed, there's the fact she tried to Drag Noelle in and if Noelle truly does have something bad happen because she was there it solely falls on Susie's choices, Susie ends up having to kill Dess to save the world, the whole working with the enemy thing really does rift as hard as expected or worse, etc.Reasons are plenty on what could or would cause the two to no longer see eye to eye by the end of this adventure because of just how things can end, much of it really does come down to what the goal of all this even was. There's also the chance Kris just doesn't get to leave or live on in th end normally either way. Not factoring whatever could happen in 7B or the WR intersecting with NR chances
>>84233857>I still think it's the only viable ship if post-roaring Hometown is still a thingWell that's less "only viable" and only one left. If the roaring were to occur, literally everyone else just dies anyway so there isn't really anyone else to be in a ship there anyway. Ralsei gets turned to stone, Noelle and Hometown are dead or gone with any survivor likely being disillusioned that the world and everything they loved just went way and got swallowed by the dark and titans, and so on & so forth. A Post roaring scenario means everyone else already lost anyway
>>842337741. You can have two threads open at the same time.2. The characters don't exist in a vacuum. Noelle, Kris and Susie are interlocked in a love triangle at the end of the world, understanding feelings of one of them is the key for understanding those of the rest.I just wish /sus/ wasn't as doomy. In terms of treatment from the game itself and the broader fanbase, both threads are about in the same position after all.
>>84233921>post-roaring HometownI fucked up, I meant post-prophecy, assuming the worlds have been saved (whether what's on the unseen panel occurred or not).
>>84233926That doom comes from the same source: If any non kris related relationship wins, nobody in either wins. These threads are founded on being Kris ship oriented first, character second and relative to the first factor.Toby could actually make Noelle a full character in these next two chapters and add stakes, no one would change to view it any better because it means Kris is left in a position where his two friends are dating each other and while they can hang out with Kris there, CH5 kinda made the whole concept sour because Kris was all but ignored for the latter half of it because Susie started dedicated time alone to Noelle.To the people here or there, it doesn't matter which ship would win, it just matters that Suselle loses in their eyes. Even the everyone ends as friends ending is good enough as long as neither of the other two are dating
>>84233926>In terms of treatment from the game itself and the broader fanbase, both threads are about in the same position after all.uh, not really? kriselle gets a dedicated side route, susie now talks about noelle 24/7, and she's become the focal point for the plot of the story.
>>84233857I'll retract the discharge, the wording confused me I think. Nothing wrong with picking up stuff on the side. I do like Noelle when the suselle writing isn't bringing stuff down, and I like art of everyone. With two potentially suicidal characters with jealousy issues its still tough to envision a story end where everyone is having a good time.
/doe/ at least has the weird route. Tbh it feels like you guys really just slowed down, maybe its Unrelated snatching your creatives but I honestly haven’t seen any new greens or the amount of new art like before ch5. We’re all in the shit together, at the mercy of a Mexican American who wants to be Japanese. And a fanbase of tumblr refugees who jerk off to TVs. But Jesus you guys gotta get out of this funk.
>>84233981What's on that panel ultimately might not matter. If the goal is to prevent things we will never get to see it in the first place. Being honest, people kinda misread what Susie wants to do in relation to it, the other parts of it weren't disliked, it's how it ends that sucked. The big theme of the Chapter and Gersons words were about the ending, Ralsei talks about knowing the prophecy and hoping acting different would change that one portion; its always only been the ending where thigs are going go be undesirable even in his eyes because the rest is very simple to follow. The ending is where the requirement is unfair & unjust in the eyes of Susie and Ralsei, the world gets saved at a steep price.
>>84234041there was a story a thread or two ago man, don't be disingenuous
>>84234041Chapter 5 had far more Kriselle than not, despite all the suselle. Even in the normal route. Especially in the festival. Sure, it had to be dug for, but it was there.Krusie, did not have as much during this chapter. And what was there had suselle hanging over it like the sword of Damocles.
>>84234041>mexican americanI... don't think that's correct? Did you get mixed up because of all the mexicans that got mad at him for NOT providing an official spanish translation of undertale?
>>84234113Suselle has hung over Kriselle like a sword of Damocles from the beginning, Krusie has only just had to start dealing with the prospect.
>>84234123>that bandSo what kinda Kris is that and what’s with the fit?
>>84234113It's actually funny that if you measure it, there's more krusie per square inch in the weird route, and I have firm beliefs of why that is-It's not presented as a "you can only get her attention by dooming everyone", but instead an appeal to the player directly because this character you like is clearly concerned and desperate to cheer Kris up.-Susie feelings about Kris are not manifested solely for a weird route. They have always been there, and with Noelle not present to focus on, Susie is free to try and have a memorable experience with someone she cares about. That line at the end where she hammers home that Kris is a "big deal" to her isn't just some consolation prize. Kris is hugely important to her no matter the context! (Keep in mind she uses the term "getting closer" the same way she tells Noelle her time at the diner was "getting closer" with Kris. She loves her friends!)
>>84233994>kriselle gets a dedicated side routeWe won't know if it amounts to anything good. Implications of being "used up" aren't.>susie now talks about noelle 24/7This is not a good thing and you know that. >>84234113Funnily enough WR had more good krusie moments than NR. Bittersweet, of course, since you end up sleeping with fishes shortly after.>>84234041We'll live and see. No amount of dooming will change whatever outcome Tobert has planned unless you yourself are planning mass suicide with an open letter, so best to save your cortisol for later.
>>84234041I AMIN A WORLDOF SHIT
>>84233641>I used to be a Krusie soldier, but I drowned into Kriselle sweet poison lately.That's some coward shit, drop it now, before you betray yourself over nothing
>>84234121Isnt Toby fox hispanic on his mother’s side? I swear I read something along those lines here.>>84234113>>84234123Suselle has always hung over our heads well just have to wait and see and even then so what? We’ll persist, even if the game ends with darkness swallowing the world.>>84234196Tbh no matter how this ends it got me drawing again so I can at least thank tobert for that.
