It's really hard to get around just how much they fuck you over, charging stupid amounts for everything. I went there wanting to spend huge amounts of money and ended up spending far less as they were too blatant ripping you off.

go to downtown

Is Casino Quest worth it? I really want to have gamble and play the table games, but I’m such a tightwad losing any real money just isn’t fun.

>>2660848
You gotta try craps it’s great odds if you avoid the sucker bets and you win as a whole table so there’s times when someone will roll for a half an hour and everyone will be drinking and celebrating

>>2660287
I grew up a few hours from Vegas, this is my experience.

As a kid and into college, Vegas was a place where you could feel rich for little money. Always had specials on shows, rooms at the Bellagio or Wynn, super nice buffets or restaurants. You found what you wanted. Family friendly experience? Totally doable. Splurge like a degenerate? Go for it.

Now a days, Vegas has become a bloated shit hole. Everything is dated, prices are inverted where nothing is worth it and everything is run down. Went to a concert a year ago with my wife, the Mirage smelled like puke and shit, somebody had in fact puked and pissed in the elevator, the entire hall to our room smelled. Ghetto trash fucking everywhere, nigs and trash walking around everywhere. All the restaurants are stupid expensive and food is shit quality now. Rooms were like 5x what I remember.


Over the years, Vegas has gone through ebbs and flows with the economy, but they did a good job of masking the issues.

Maybe a sign of the economy at large now,
It's gone down hill in a way it's never coming back.

Vegas is like Times Square. Used to be sketchy sleazy and fun, now it's become a soulless bloated disneyfied gimmick. But Vegas is that magnified to city scale.

>>2660287
Loved it.
Lost a bit of soul but so much is going on. I was there at the tail end of 2022 and whilst my gf and her friend were out, I chatted up a woman at the casino, took her back and fucked. She was an escort but she was worried I was popo. Some blonde Polish broad in her 40s.

Vegas is a microcosm of corporatization ruining good things in the pursuit of a dollar. The first time I went was 2014 and it wasn’t cheap. Now it’s insane. $50 table game minimums, $40 nightly hotel resort fees, $150 show tickets, etc. It’s almost impossible to have fun in Vegas for less than $500/day. I have a friend who is wealthy and a big gambler. The best way to do Vegas is go with someone like him. He gets free nice rooms almost anytime he wants and a $100 daily dining credit. He makes around $20k in casino & sports wagers daily while he’s there.

>>2661036
Also if you want cheap fun:
>go to Fremont St at night. They always have 2 or 3 stages playing live music and S-tier people watching
>make a sports bet, tip the guy $5 and ask if they do drink tickets. Most sportsbook employees will give you at least 2 free drink tickets for a $5 tip, some will give you 5.
>buy booze and water at CVS or any off-strip grocery store to save 80% vs strip casino pricing
>stay off-strip somewhere like a Station Casinos property or even a non casino like Tahiti Village. Some Station properties are super nice and cost less than half as much as a comparable hotel on the strip. Green Valley Ranch and Durango in particular are great.
>play video poker at a bar for unlimited free drinks. Just don’t bet too big. They usually require $20 coin in for the free drink light to activate, which usually means you’ll lose about $5. Better than paying $9 for a beer or $14 for liquor.
>don’t go to strip clubs in Vegas. Sure they have insanely hot women who fly in for the weekend, but they’re going to want $400 for a 3-song dance and cover will be $50 if not $100. Not worth it. Go to Portland if you want a good strip club experience for $100 lol

Literally every Vegas post on /trv/ is some variety of
>I’m headed to Vegas soon and I don’t drink, gamble, or enjoy having fun. My budget is $13/day. What’s the best experience I can have??
Don’t go to Vegas if you don’t want to get wasted and blow a few grand. Simple as

>>2661078
I have money to spend, I just don't want to feel like its burning up for nothing...

I went to a place called Chicken guy in Disney world last year, and it was really good. I heard there was one on the LV strip, so I wanted to go again. IT WAS 2.5X MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THE SAME THING.
3 piece chicken went from $6 to $15! lol...

still love Vegas. fuck the haters. it's beautiful to walk through, the airport is 5 mins away, and hooters still has $1 blackjack. Circus circus still has coin slots but they'll likely be out of business soon anyway.

>>2660996
>She was an escort
How much did you pay her?

> the city of gambling with boomers and overpaying for dinner and a show
Wow. So cool.

Vegas is a great way to just escape.
Nothing is real but everything is a spectacle.
It’s a great way to step off planet earth for a few days.

1. what's it like going to vegas solo?
2. any other activities besides gambling?
3. favorite show you went to see?
4. favorite hotel on the strip?
5. favorite restaurant?

>>2661540
Then don’t buy it.

>>2660287
Vegas sucks balls now. I will only go back if I have to for work. I would not go voluntarily.

hell

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I’m thinking about doing a roadtrip from California to Las Vegas in September for Fallout New Vegas day. It’s really niche and autistic so l thought here would be the best place to find a travel buddy.
My current plan is to see all major monuments in game, go to event, and enjoy Vegas
>road trip will go like this (rough draft, open to changes)
>first stop Goodsprings, go to New Vegas event
>second stop Buffalo Bill’s or the other casino (I heard one of them closed. If we like the event enough and it’s too late we’ll spend a night here).
>Las Vegas (2-3 days. One day in Vegas, 2 days in Downton due to it being cheaper+more fun. Open to changes)
>Hoover Dam
>Zion (if time permits or anon would like to go)
>circle back, hit Red Rock Canyon or Mt Charleston depending on route
>back to California (or different state, one of us could fly in/out).
I’d be willing to pay for rooms, every other meal, and split gas money. Pic related is date of event (could be scheduled to change, and in event it doesn’t happen, still willing to do trip just to have fun).
I’m located in SoCal, so would be bonus if you are from that area. If not that’s fine.

>>2662078
*November, not September. Typo, sorry.

I usually do outdoor stuff outside the city during the day, cause the strip sucks during daylight hours. For example, Mojave National Preserve, Valley of Fire, Desert NWR, Red Roxk Canyon or just playing around in the Mojave. Theres tons of stuff to see out there nobody knows about. Unless you’re scared of the outdoors.

>>2662085
darn I'm gonna be in vegas around the 24th, this would actually be cool

>>2660287
>What are your thoughts on Las Vegas?
It's a city in America that is full of casinos. I don't gamble so, apart from live shows, I don't think there'll be much for me to do there. I can't be bothered flying all the way to America to watch some regime approved comedian or singer in the twilight of their career. So I don't really give a shit about going to Las Vegas or pretty much anywhere else in the US.

>>2660287
Vegas has been shit for about 12 years. They had already begun tearing out a lot of the soul that peaked in the 90s but it became soulless and sterile around the time that Linq "mall" opened. Vegas shifted gears to trying to attract millennials rather than the boomers still sustaining them but what they've become appeals to nobody. It used to look and feel grand but was affordable and cheap. Faux luxury mixed with real luxury if you wanted it. Gonna see a massive contraction without the boomers to sustain it

>>2662088
Fuck you mean? 4am-8am Strip is the best. You get to see people arrested, be depressed, have meltdowns, and jump. Afternoon-Night is boring, unless you are at a video poker bar-top like Circa on Fremont on the high roller floor with a bartender with no one else

>>2660437
>>2660959
>>2661036
>>2661540
>>2662887
These guys are all retards. I spent 200-250$ dollars a day drinking, eating, gambling, and going to shows
1. Don’t to be retard and go to the Strip for more than a day or two
2. Get your drinks as freebies at bars with video poker, like the D, Circa, or Binion’s (tip 1-2$ per drink, and choose a quieter bar)
3. Use apps, sign up for rewards programs and get room comps. I was able to get 200$ in freeplay and matchplay by spending 5 min signing up at each casino. Best ones on Fremont is D and Golden Nugget. Off Strip go to Ellis Island, and on strip go to all, though they are cheap.
4. Eat cheap. Tony Romo’s on Fremont has 11.99 steak and lobster, White Castle 1.29 sliders, and more if you look. Plus you can get 25-50% discounts by signing up with the aforementioned rewards shit. These fags are all complaining because they are stupid. If you have a car or rental go to Ellis Island. They have great prices. On strip you’re fucked unless you go to places like in N out, White Castle, or get comps which are pretty easy. Go to sports lounges and tip 10-20$ to the bartender and ask where to go. They’ll occasionally give you meal tickets if you play your cards right or at the very least drink tickets. I can get 4-5 tickets due to being able to talk to them.
5. Go on off days. You can get rooms for 50-60$ a night that are decent if you don’t go to during weekend or during conventions.
6. Download the casino’s shitty apps. I got free tickets to a ton of shows doing that. You can set them to auto play while you are working a month or two before you go to Vegas.
Vegas is still extremely cheap and doable if you aren’t a mouthbreathing moron who can’t plan to save your fucking life.

>>2660287

>For a long time, Vegas was known as the place where poor people could roleplay being rich, as rooms and food were affordable for so long.

Man people earn A LOT more money nowadays then 10-15 years ago. Quality of life has gone up A LOT. If you can't afford Vegas, then sorry, but you are poor.

Stop complaining and fix your life instead. $50 lunch isn't expensive anymore, maybe it was in 2015 but dude you can literally go to a coding bootcamp and get a junior software engineer job earning $140k/year EASY if you're of at least average intelligence. EASY.

>>2662904
If you pay 50$ for lunch in Vegas unless it’s a buffet or steaks you are a retard. You’re poor.

>>2660287
It's fun if you're part of the movers and shakers of the world, which it doesn't seem like anyone in this thread is.

>>2662915
Updooted!

>>2662908

>Uhhhh ACKSHULLY you're the poor one if you can afford expensive things!!!!!!

Market prices adapt to people's buying power. Right now people have a lot of money, free time, and the will to travel. And you're just bitter because you feel left behind.

>>2662933
>hey guys I’m rich because I’m too stupid to use a discount
Poorfag LARP giveaway. Post your primary savings account balance with a timestamp or go back to the cuckshed.

>>2660287
It's awesome, pussies here don't like them for the same reason they don't like cruises.

>>2662904
I've literally been coding all my life. I know more and am better at any language than any cs grad and yet I never make it to the interview because of hrfags and certain factors which are outside of my control.

>>2663372
Maybe go for contractor roles instead. Also, companies aren't only looking for knowledgeable coders. They're also looking for sociable and amiable people to work with. I mean who wants to work with a coding guru who's a jerk or antisocial? Getting employed means working within a team not by yourself. Go write an app or become a contractor instead.

>>2663378

Don't know what to tell you. I took a 2 month coding bootcamp a little over a year ago, I know earn $240k/year. US dollars. Maybe you're not as good as you think you are.

>family likes playing slots
>want to join in but autism kicks in and feel bad wasting money
>end up either watching them play or play minimum slowly
>if I plan ahead to establish a budget and strategy/play-style I have more fun
How do I determine a bankroll for slots? This was easier to do for table games but my family isn’t interested in them

>>2662903
>I spent $200 a day drinking, eating, gambling, and going to shows
And you also spent $220 for a hotel + resort fees, etc so you spent nearly $500 a day.

>>2663499
Slots are the biggest moneysuck in Vegas, they literally keep casinos in business. Don't play slots. Play video poker or video blackjack if you want to gamble on a machine
>>2661892
>what's it like going solo
Going to vegas solo is fun. I've been maybe 15 times for work and fun, and all but 3 trips were solo. There's plenty to do and every restaurant is used to solo diners so you don't seem like a weirdo. It's easy to make friends when everyone is drunk, just chat up whoever is sitting near you at the bar or table games, have a laugh, and half the time they'll invite you to whatever activity they're doing next.
>favorite activities besides gambling
Fremont Street is the best people watching you'll ever see. I had one of the slutty cop 'performers' straight up offer to suck my dick in an alley once. She was disgusting and I said no. They also have 3 stages with live music every night and you don't have to spend a dollar to enjoy it. Wander around Fremont after midnight and smile at women, you have a great chance of getting laid if you're not gross/autistic. There are also a ton of hookers wandering around those casinos looking for guys walking to the hotel elevators solo. One hot black hooker at Golden Nugget was extremely aggressive trying to get me to bang her. Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole lol makes a good story tho.
>favorite show
I don't really go to shows. I'd rather sit at a sportsbook bar, flirt with the bartender and get five free drinks while I lose $30 on video poker. Most shows are at least $60, $100+ if you want good seats.
>fav hotel on the strip
Aria is the best hotel IMO, but it's fuckin expensive. I like staying off strip at Station Casinos. They're nice and most are a quick Uber to the strip.
>favorite restaurant
Stanton Social Prime at Caesar's is great. Prepare to spend $125 per person for a steak and a couple drinks tho. For breakfast I like Hash House. Good food and huge portions.

>>2662903
youre not wrong anon its just that 98% of people who visit vegas will not do what you do. they stay at a strip casino and eat at overpriced strip restaurants and play $25 minimum 6:5 strip blackjack and pay $8 for a bud light and spend $1000 a day because that's the list price

>>2662908
i went to nacho daddy for breakfast last year. had two screwdrivers and huevos rancheros and my tab was $36 before tip. it's not hard to spend $50 on a 'cheap' meal in vegas

Love Vegas. It’s the only city in America I don’t worry about being gluttonous. You walk 10 miles a day so it’s fine to eat and drink 4000 calories of world class food

>>2664872
Slots used to be really fun until they became dominated by Chinese slots and Buffalo clones, all with the same shitty 6-tier jackpot system.

I don’t understand the appeal of gambling. I’ve tried it at least 20 times and it’s been lose lose lose lose no matter what. Slots, craps, blackjack, roulette, sports betting, horse betting. You can’t fucking win and it’s the dumbest use of money possible. The only good that can come of gambling is a Vegas hotel giving you free room and free meals cuz you lost $3000

>tourist traps all over the place
>simple fast food style milkshake charges like a premium steak
>lots of touts that will sell you promises of tours and group setting activities only to take your money and run
>nightclubs and even the premium ones feel extremely dated and dirty Millenials and Zoomers dont party so youre stuck with oldheads
>every other casino feels dated like they never left the 1970s
the only redeeming quality of that place is that they are actively trying to gentrify it. Some places look pretty good on an international level where you can get some good shopping in. But when I last visited, couldnt shake off the dated atmosphere. Everything was just degenerate and none of it truly appeals to me. I suppose if you were a real wealthy baller and are into doing degen stuff, then it might be for you. But much of it caters to the Boomer crowd- like no one cool goes to Vegas pool parties or attends oldhead electronic concerts there. Its just ass overall

>>2664872
I really like the Station properties but can never forgive them for removing the buffets

>>2662903
>Tony Romo’s on Fremont has 11.99 steak and lobster,
except u never actually got to have it bc the restuarant seats like 10 people and there are 10 more people waiting outside the restaurant, so please stop offering advice if u did not actually ahve the experience. its literally a trap to get people into the casino.

>>2660287
I've been going to town on average 4 times a year since 2011. I haven't really noticed much of a change. Rooms on strip are still very reasonable, compared to other top resort cities. Certain times of year you can get rooms in 5-star resorts for less than $100 - try that anywhere else for a 5-star.

That said, yes, the strip is expensive. Yes, things are 2-3 times what you pay at home, but does your hometown have the Bellagio Fountains? A scale model of the Eiffel Tower? A fucking pyramid? You're paying for an experience you can't have anywhere else, if you don't understand that stay the fuck home in bumfuck Kansas or wherever you're from.

>>2665480
Poker and sports betting are the only forms of gambling you can actually win long term

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>>2666339
Poker is not gambling, it's a game of skill

>>2666348
Anything with an element of chance when the house takes a percentage is gambling

Overpriced
Crowded
Degenerate
Only the worst types of people like Vegas

>>2666504
fuck that fucking city
some street nigger robbed cash and valuables from my truck soon as I walked away from it
worse than Hispanic Third World shitholes, but with sky-high prices and assholes everywhere
i'd rather be anywhere else, even bumfuck Kansas

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>>2666353
You don't play against the house in Texas Hold'em, the house just takes a percent of the pot after the hand is over while the winner keeps the rest. You don't play against the house, you play against the other players, the house just facilitates the game, and the fee is to pay for that.

>>2661036
Facts. One of my best friends is a degerate like this, I just spend the time watching him gamble then we do shit after.

The amount of comps degenerate gamblers get is insanae, makes me almost wanna put my life on red.

>>2667261
I arb bet online using sportsbooks in my state. I actually have a VIP host at a couple different locations and offers for free rooms at MGM and Caesars properties, but I’m afraid when I arrive they’ll realize I don’t gamble like that in person.

Has anyone counted cards, or seen someone get thrown out for counting?

It was weird how for a couple of years there were stories about kids getting rich off counting, and if I recall correctly, the stories ended with the casinos switching from 4 decks per table to 8, or something like that, to completely kill the 1% edge the counters had. It was some kind of stupidly easy fix, don’t know why the casinos didn’t do it earlier, I thought the whole thing might have been a publicity stunt for the house but the stories seemed legit

>>2667474
The latest (((game defense))) is continuous shufflers. The machine can hold 6-8 decks and all the played cards are reshuffled back in every few hands. It’s like playing with a new shoe every hand

>>2667627
>>2667474
Yep, if they think you're counting, they'll shuffle constantly

I recently went to Vegas for the first time and loved it. Before going I got the Wyndham business rewards credit card which allowed me to status match to Caesar’s diamond. I stayed at a Caesar’s property and got no resort fees. Went Sunday through Thursday and paid about $40 bucks per night. While I was there I got a $100 food and beverage credit from Caesars then was able to status match to Fountaineblue for another $150 food and beverage credit, I was also able to status match to Wynn for platinum and MGM for gold. I gambled about $3500 over the trip, mostly on video poker and some slots. Ended the trip down about $700. Now I’m getting a bunch of offers for comped rooms at Caesars properties and some for MGM. So I think if you do it right you can do it relatively cheaply. I also went to CVS and packed my fridge with beer and ate at In & Out burger a few times. I’m not sure if I’ll go back soon but maybe.

Anyone have book recommendations about the history of Vegas? I’m reading through “Winner Take All” right now. It’s an interesting look at the history up to 2008, especially being able to look back and see what the thought was pre-financial-crisis

>>2668295
Sun sin and suburbia

>>2667219
nice reading comprehension bud

Here's a better Vegas trip from someone who lived there for 2 years.

>Go in October/early November
>Rent a car, stay off the strip on Fremont Street or at a nice station Casino like Suncoast
>Hike Red Rock National Conservation Area
>Eat dinner in Chinatown at Hachi
>Go out at night on Fremont Street to watch free bands
>Next day, play a round at Cloud 9 gold course
>Lunch at Shish Kabob House
>See Ka show
>Get Cocktails at the Griffin downtown
>Next day, go to a shooting range and shoot guns
>Lunch at Viet Noodle Bar
>Massage on Spring Mountain Blvd
>Dinner at Ichiza
>Omega Mart, Area 15

>>2669327
no escort would allow bareback unless you fucked a man. kill yourself

Any gamblingfags here? Everyone I know has some story about winning thousands in Vegas. I've been there at least 10 times and don't think I've ever been ahead let alone won thousands. The odds are stacked against the player obviously but how do so many people seem to win while I lose at every fuckin game I play

>>2670617
If the goal is to actually win money, the best strategy is to place as few bets as possible. Start with a set amount and set a goal. The longer you play, the more the house advantage kicks in. Bellagio still offers $100 craps with a single zero in the high limit area. Anyone can play. Start with $500 and bet a number straight up for $100 for 5 rolls in a row. If you hit, you win $3500.

With that said, if you want to have fun and gamble for a decent amount of time, play craps for the smallest minimum bet possible on the pass line. You'll get free drinks and it's a lot more exciting than slot machines.

>>2670617
I won like 600 dollars playing craps rolled for half an hour and I played a few times and won a little bit at the Indian casino

>>2662903
The shit, I just came back from Vegas and I spent less than 100 bucks a day. I mostly went to chinatown for food, though.

>>2670721
I meant $100 roulette with a single 0.

>>2662903
Terrible advice. Don't go to Vegas and eat in a funking Tony Roma's or a White Castle. Elllis Island is literally one step above a soup kitchen for homeless people.

>>2670804
Chinatown in Vegas is insanely good. You could spend a week just eating at the Ramen places on West Spring Mountain and never have a bad meal. Most of those Ramen places are like $15/meal. If you're coming from any place in the US that isn't Los Angeles, you won't find better Thai or Vietnamese food anywhere than in Vegas either. It's all cheap and really fucking good.

>>2670804
What did you do for less than $100 a day? Free lodging with a friend and sitting by the pool all day?

>>2670837
I really like Le Thai on Fremont. Prefer staying on Fremont and look forward to eating there every trip

>>2663372
>I am so far above and beyond everyone
>but I can't get hired
Maybe you're actually not as smart as you think you are considering I am retarded and was able to learn programming stuff in 2 months by myself and have a 200k/yr job

>>2671064
Le Thai is good. There's literally always a wait and the menu is small. They just opened a new place a few doors down called Bangkok Street that I like better. Try it one night. If you have a car or want to uber, go to Hachi or Ichiza one night. Actually, go to both. Get a reservation though. They're both packed out every night, for good reason. Order the Grilled Squid and the honey toast at Ichiza. And get the fucking Chashu Pork at Hachi. It's my favorite thing in vegas.

>>2669327
Those were the prices back in 2004. I like the story though.

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Check out the men's bathhouses like Hawks Gym and Entourage for a more...intimate experience.

When I was a teen it sounded like the coolest place ever. Now I just think it's sad.

i've been fixated on online poker lately and never played in real life. anyone have any greentext stories playing poker in vegas? what other table games do you guys like?

>>2671890
Long post incoming. I played a little hold em in Vegas, but not a ton. If you play the really low limit games, it's hard to win. The house takes a percentage of each pot and the pots are usually so small, that it everyone loses over time. The El Cortez used to run a 1-2 hold em game that the really degenerate old dudes would play in. If you won a big hand off one of them, they'd practically have a heart attack. Bellagio has a great non-smoking poker room and their are always games running, but a lot of pros hang out there. If you got a good seat behind a really loose player, you could make some money. If you have some discipline and play tight, you could win one big hand there and cash out.

I usually play craps and roulette because they're the most fun and don't require a lot of thinking. People at the blackjack tables get pissy when you make a play that hurts the rest of the table. El Cortez used to offer 2 deck blackjack for $2. You could count cards out loud and then up your bets when the count was good. We would play $2 a hand and then bet $20 when the count was good. We would usually come out ahead doing that and no one cared because it was only like $100 in winnings at the end of the night. You'd also get a lot of "free" drinks all night if you tipped the waitress $2 per drink.

>>2671882
You're a nerd and you've never been. And if you did go, you'd do it wrong.

>>2669263
That's how it's done.

>>2660287
Be in Vegas in September. Anyone have a favorite Sportsbook, best odds best seating area? I will likely lose all my money but this is something I like to pretend I know well and can win at.

>>2671908
Superbook at the Westgate is the quintessential Vegas sportsbook. I’ve heard good things about Circa as well.

>>2671922
Heard the same. Thanks broski!

>>2671890
Poker in person is kind of intimidating at first and there’s a learning curve. In general you can tell pretty quick who is a decent player and who is a tourist who doesn’t care if they give away $500. The most frustrating thing for me about live poker (because I only play low limit) is how bad some of the players are. They call almost everything. I’ve had guys call $250 raises chasing a flush draw before and hit it to beat me. It’s infuriating. If you’re going to play in person, play semi tight but aggressive. If you have a decent hand make a firm bet and don’t let those fucks hang around chasing their draws. As far as poker rooms in Vegas, I really like Golden Nugget and surprisingly Aria usually has 1/2 and 2/5 no limit games.

>>2671908
>>2671922
Circa is amazing but expensive and stingy. You have to make $200 in sports bets to get a free drink. Most other places will give you a drink or two for $50 in total wagers. The key is to tip the ticket writer and then ask if they do drink tickets

>>2671908
If you’re there for NFL you almost definitely will not get a seat at the actual sportsbook. Every bettor in Vegas goes for NFL Sundays. Westgate has a theater they open up with football seating, same shit at treasure Island and some other casinos. I prefer staying downtown and finding a smaller book or sports bar like The D or Four Queens. Circa is fun for big games tho, you can stand on the 2nd story balcony and watch the 90’ TV

>>2671908
If you’re willing to go off-strip, Durango has an awesome book and good food.

>>2669327
>$120
>bareback

I've seen some larps in my time but this takes the cake

>>2672048
Kek this. A Vegas escort, even a gross one, would charge $1000+ for anything without a condom

>>2661039
>play video poker at a bar for unlimited free drinks. Just don’t bet too big. They usually require $20 coin in for the free drink light to activate, which usually means you’ll lose about $5. Better than paying $9 for a beer or $14 for liquor.
this is my favorite vegas trick. last trip i made a bunch of full houses and 2 four of a kinds while playing just to get free drinks. had fun, drank a ton, and won money in the process

>>2670617
Bet on sports. You can make a $10 or a $1000 bet. Either way it lasts a couple hours and you’re entertained

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>>2660287

>>2662078
>>2662085
That would be amazing

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Temptation Sundays at the Luxor
gay pool party
Guests must be 21+.
The Luxor pyramid serves as a backdrop for fun in the sun, with music and Go-Go Boys. A line-up of guest DJs are featured at Temptation Sundays, so you'll want to check ahead to see who's scheduled. For the full pool party experience, rent a cabana.
Seasons run from about May to September.

>>2672216
Thanks anon looks like I’m never giving Luxor or MGM another dollar as long as I live. Enjoy your HIV!

Tips from a frequent Vegas visitor
- Fremont is better than the strip
- Off strip (miles from the strip or downtown) is better than Fremont
- Spring Valley has amazing Asian food
- If you want to gamble, be prepared to lose $500-$1000
- Most shows suck. Only a handful are worth seeing
- Do not go to strip clubs in Vegas
- Ask locals for restaurants and bar recommendations

>>2672048
There are still girls walking around on west tropicana who you can find for less than 100 and do literally anything with, but you will absolutely catch an STD.

>>2672216
There is literally no amount of money on earth you could pay me to get in a pool with 100's of gay men. The amount of sexual transmitted diseases in that pool would be mind boggling.

>>2672253
>i clearly dont know how STDs work and unlike breeders; gays are more likely to know their status and prevention methods

>>2672265
You have no idea what you're talking about. Only 32 percent of gay Asian men in the US are ever tested for HIV in their entire lives. Gay black men have a 50 percent chance of contracting HIV in their lifetimes. Gonorrhea, Syphilis, and HPV can all be contracted in a pool, especially in a pool with hundreds of people where the filter can't work fast enough, and especially in a warm pool like in Las Vegas.

>>2672359

You are literally retarded and need to go back to biology class. Actually you shouldn't even be allowed to travel alone without some sort of chaperone with your room temperature IQ.

>>2672359
can you explain in detail how pool swimming gives STDs? I think that's really interesting.

Thanks to the alphabet people for ruining a good Vegas thread with their usual degeneracy

>>2672249
>- Do not go to strip clubs in Vegas
Why? Whats the alternative? I want to watch naked whores

>>2672632
Honestly just go to any casino bar after 10pm and chat up drunk tourists. If you’re not an autist and you dress well it’s easy mode as far as women go. Tip bartenders well and they’ll actively wingman for you.

>>2672640
Yeah well I'm retarded, I'd rather go to a stripclub or a brothel

>>2672642
Vegas strip clubs require a bare minimum of $500 to have fun for 2 hours. Realistically if you’re there all night you’re going to spend $1500

>>2672683
what the fuck id rather stay in and fap

>>2660287
I used to be able to enjoy Vegas for 48-72 hours, at the most, before feeling like I needed to escape as fast as possible.

I like a small amount of cautious, moderate-stakes gambling, a couple of showoff restaurants, some kind of live performance, and maybe one all-nighter of surrealist people watching. It really is about the most 24hr place in the States (New York is a close second, but it’s noticeably quieter at 4AM than central Vegas is, even in Manhattan), and that can be interesting. But it’s exhausting and a bit repetitive and in bad taste, and I have come to find it kind of sad around the edges—there’s an air of desperation to many of the gamblers, drunkards, call girls, and hedonists, some of which I eventually found reflected in myself (see below). I have seen more fistfights break out in Vegas than in any other city in the world, and I have been to hundreds of cities in dozens of countries. Plus the fact that a windowless gaming floor looks basically exactly the same at noon and three in the morning gets suffocating for me.

But on my last trip to Vegas, probably my last one ever, I had the unfortunate realization that I had a hard time enjoying Vegas while sober. I used to spend my 48-72hr jaunts either drunk or on drugs more hours than not, and I can’t drink or take drugs anymore. So I think Vegas and I are through, whatever prices are like now.

Oh, and to be slightly on-topic, I never found Vegas especially cheap, even years ago. I invariably blew a lot of money quickly whenever I visited, but I was of course staying up all night and drinking dangerously and abusing drugs—had a lot of hours in which to waste cash.

Vegas is shit, but it's a good place to fly in and then see the national parks nearby like the Grand Canyon, Zion, Death Valley, and Joshua Tree among others.

The whole point of Vegas is to suck you into gambling, everything fun is tied to gambling one way or another.

>>2672485
People with HIV an Aids have compromised immune systems and are much more likely to carry other types of infections that their bodies can't fight off. Since many of them are so promiscuous, they end up with dozens of parasites, fungal infections and other viral infections that they can't fight off. Vegas pools are notoriously disgusting. The pumps barely work at most of the major resorts. Here's a list of infections you can catch in a pool. They aren't all STD's per se, but like I said, gay guys with HIV are walking disease factories.

Hepatitis A
Norovirus
Legionella
Pseudomonas
Giardia
Campylobacter
Salmonella
Salmonella
E. coli
Athlete's Foot
Jock Itch

This list doesn't even include all the airborne bugs that you can catch around a bunch of HIV and Aids infected gays. That list would be a mile long.
https://www.insideedition.com/inside-edition-investigates-potentially-harmful-bacteria-found-in-some-of-las-vegas-most-popular

>>2672766
that's not how immune systems work retard lmao. that's also not how STDs work either, they're "sexually transmitted" for a reason, water is not body fluid even if the water contains deluded body fluid somehow

immune disorders (which happen to literally any and everyone, usually at birth) do not increase your risk of being a "carrier" it just means you are more susceptible to infections that most people's immune systems can fight off. And these days, the people who have these kinds of immune disorders are getting transfusions and have more immunities artificially than most people have naturally, and therefore are even more rarely carriers of disease.

t. I have my doctorate and in residency studying pathology

>>2672775
>t. I have my doctorate and in residency studying pathology

Firsy of all, no you don't. Secondly, faggots are laden with active infections and are a walking biological threat. This explains our instinctive revulsion and aversion to them and why people have to be brainwashed to merely tolerate their presence.

Can you two shut the fuck up and go back to the gay board

>>2660287
Please keep wasting all your money on the strip. It's your money keeping locals like myself from having to by a state income tax.

>>2672908
Just a matter of time lad. The casinos will negotiate a lower gaming tax rate, keep all the profit, and NV will institute a 4% income tax

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>*blocks your path*

>>2672946
Do you have any idea how long we've never had a state income tax for? You don't know what you're talking about.

>>2672640
>it’s easy mode as far as women go
I haven't had much luck because they are always in groups and there's always one or more that cockblock or get pissy.

>>2672788
Larp harder faggot.

"HIV weakens the immune system by destroying CD4+ T cells, a type of white blood cell that helps fight infections. This makes people with HIV more susceptible to other infections and diseases, including:
Opportunistic infections: Such as tuberculosis and fungal infections and Severe bacterial infections"

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/hiv-aids#:~:text=HIV%20weakens%20the%20immune%20system,to%20other%20infections%20and%20diseases.

And here's one about "super spreaders" for diseases.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7110524/

For the record, I don't swim with Aids ridden faggots either

>>2661039
>>2664872
>>2672060
>>2662903
Pro tip for video poker: check the pay tables. If two pair doesn't pay 2 to 1 on your bet, don't play that particular version of video poker. Also don't max bet on the video poker with bonus features, the bet doubles but the pay table stays the same.

Try to find penny or nickel a hand bar tops and minimum bet. Play safe and don't go for longshots and you'll stand a good chance of breaking even or coming out ahead in the long run, and get free drinks doing it.

>>2673001
Do you have any idea how greedy corporate casinos are? It’s the last major revenue growth opportunity they have. They’re going to lobby hard to significantly reduce the gaming tax. They’ve cut every other cost. No more free parking, hardly any comps, watered down shitty drinks, $50 nightly resort fees, etc.

>>2673180
>check the pay tables
This anon is correct. Ideally Jacks or Better (standard 5-card draw with no bonus BS) will pay per credit:
Jacks or better: 1
Two pair: 2
Three of a kind: 3
Straight: 4
Flush: 6
Full house: 9
4 of a kind: 25
Straight flush and royal flush don’t really matter unless there’s a progressive, then bet max and try to get a royal. I’ve played probably 20k hands of video poker in my life and made 2 straight flushes and zero royals. If 2 pair pays 1 credit or a full house is less than 8, that’s a shitty machine and you shouldn’t play it

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>>2673390
>casinos are greedy
True.
>casinos are suddenly more greedy now than they ever were and will cause something that has never happened in the state's history
Surely your source is better than pic related, I take it?

>>2673393
Casinos are definitely greedier than before, but not in the way that other anon suggested
https://cdcgaming.com/caesars-sports-pushing-out-lower-tier-customers-in-favor-of-higher-end-a-boon-for-vegas-casinos/

Alternatively, Go to South Africa, gambling there is cheap as fuck, the lowest bid I saw for slots was 1R (0.05 USD) and you can usually get better luck there for gambling than in the US (usually), plus, the food there isn't bad and there's some decent entertainment options but that varies where you're going. The only downside is that the payouts are crap if you're converting to currencies like USD, EUR, CAD, AUD, etc, though the payout is good if you're going to spend your winnings in South Africa itself.

>>2673721
Not today Themba

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The Sphere was BASED AS FUCK!

I went to Vegas myself for 5 nights as the wife didnt want to go see U2, or go to Vegas.
I had a blast.
Went to see Postcards from Earth, went to a Vegas Knights hockey game, went to Red Rocks Canyon, went to see U2. Did a little gambling in between.

I admit Vegas was very expensive but I was able to keep costs down as a solo traveller and wasnt really there for the gambling or partying.

>>2673774
>U2
>Based
Sure anon, sure.
I am glad you had a good time howeverthoughbeit.

>>2673776

Mate, im too old to argue about musical opinions. I guarantee people will think your taste in music is just as lame or awful as you think mine are.

>>2673774
I've heard reports of U2's questionable performances there, but everyone seems to agree the Sphere show itself is amazing.

>>2673774
>U2
Lol. I bet that ticket was $300+. I won't pay that kind of money for a concert. The "When were Young' festival this fall has like 100 bands spread out over 2 days and it's $325 and I'd never pay that.

But Vegas is actually an awesome place to live bands because literally every does a stop there and there are so many venues. I always go to Fremont on Friday and Saturday nights and watch the free cover bands outside.

Is blackjack worth playing?

>>2674288
U2 looks to have been the least impressive shows at least visually at the venue yet. Phish and Dead and Co, despite their general musical shittiness, put some amazing video content up there. Check out some of the Youtube vids.

>>2674944
Complete skill game. If you're very good and can count cards, you can do well, until you're asked to leave the table. If you're just decent you'll be lucky to break even.

>>2675024
From what I gather card counting is just making use of probability by keeping in mind the cards dealt. I want to give it a shot, seems more "fair" than other games at the casino

>>2674944
What are you playing for? Most gambling comes down to one of four things: play for fun, play to kill time, play to earn comps, play for the big win

>>2675024
>>2675028
The only way you can count without getting caught and limited or banned from blackjack is to work in teams. Card counting isn’t illegal but the casino can refuse service if they want. If you’re betting the $25 table minimum all night then suddenly bet $500 per hand when the count gets to +16 they’re going to realize it. Thats why you have a spotter play and keep a running count then signal you to come in as the ‘big bettor’ once the count is high. Some casinos won’t allow mid-shoe entry to hedge against this

>>2670617
Most people lie. If someone wins thousands on a slot or craps or whatever it’s because they lost thousands first

>>2675224
Most of the bid casinos only offer blackjack in a giant 8 deck shoe. They shuffle 1/3 of the way into the shoe so you can't keep track and it's too random for card counting. I worked at Bellagio on the floor for about 2 years as a clerk and watched blackjack all day. Almost no one ever won big. The only times I ever saw people make a shit ton of money was in High Limit Baccarat, or in Craps. The craps tables actually lost money on a lot of days. Someone would go on a lucky roll and a lot of people start pressing bets.

The biggest losers I saw were always in Roulette. There was a guy from Turkey who I watched lose 2 million in 10 minutes. He was playing 250K per spin and just throwing chips all over the middle of the board randomly. He missed the number literally every roll. He was supposed to stay for 2 weeks, but he packed his shit that afternoon and just went home on his first day.

>>2662933
>Market prices adapt to people's buying power.
You mean market prices adapt to people's income.
Buying power is literally defined as income relative to market prices.

>>2670617
I won a $800 sports parlay on a $50 bet once. Thats the closest I’ve ever had to a big winner

>>2674295

Great, If thats the music you are into, by all means buy a ticket to go and see it.

This U2 ticket cost me $225, which all things considered for Vegas in a brand new state of the art stadium didnt seem too bad.

It was worth every penny just for the experience of The Sphere. It was by no means their best live show, but it was an incredible show none the less.

Ive seen U2 8 times before anyway and this was something I could afford.

>>2674944

Blackjack is a brilliant way to lose a lot of money very very fast.
Not as fast as slots, but still very fast.

The best value for money that will get you longevity is always Craps.
Craps always has the best table side atmosphere because it feels like a team game of everyone vs the table official.

Black jack has far too many people who take the game too seriously and are boring shites

>>2675330
Money lasts longer playing BJ than craps tho. $500 at a $25 blackjack table will last you 3 hours. $500 at a $25 craps table will last you 5 shooters if they all crap out

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>>2675022

U2, combined with The Spheres visual FX team have admitted they had to scale back a lot of what was planned. They had to tread a fine line between impressive, and not making people fall over / get motion sickness.

The Sphere is very very steep. It can easily give you room spin.

U2 had easily the better graphical package for their 40 night run, and had sections where large portions of the visuals where scaled back so they could assess the audiences tolerances.

Phish and Dead and Co used the equivalent of Windows Screensavers for a lot of their songs compared to U2, who used more "custom" and tied to their songs visuals.

Its going to be really interesting to see what artists and teams can make out of the Sphere.

Its also unlikely artists who are only playing 2/3 nights in Sphere go to the extend U2 did for such customised graphics, vs generic scenerey / screensaver type overlays

>>2675332

The last time I played Craps was at the virtual craps table in Planet Hollywood. (Digital Screens but with an actual craps table you got up and rolled a dice on)

Min bet was $5 and rounds would last for hours. One guy was on a roll of nearly 50 dice rolls at one time. I just wanted to go to bed, it was nearly 4am but we where on such a roll.

>>2675335
I love craps and I played a lot, but it's one of the easiest games for a casino to cheat on. I would never recommend that anyone ever play roulette outside the US. The vegas gaming commission is pretty strict. the fines are HUGE. But that doesn't exist at Indian casinos, in Mexico, on a cruise ship, online or really in most countries. If you want a fair game, you really have to play craps.

Vegas is a disgusting shithole now. I went last year and it has gone way downhill since 2011 and previous years.
Smelly bums sleeping on the pedestrian bridges, people lighting up joints and the whole strip smelling like you're hotboxing, BDSM cosplay street performers in public, casinos are now run down and the parking garages haven't been cleaned in years.
Don't even get me started on the nickel-and-diming
Oh, and now blacks from LA and Oakland moved-in and are locals, except they actually hang out where the tourists are.
The cherry on top is how they renamed the airport because Pat McCarran was too based for modern Vegas.
Fuck Vegas. That place is shit now.
>>2660848
>Is Casino Quest worth it?
I have went there once to learn games and it's entertaining. Well worth the money when you factor in the lack of losses that you didn't, well, lose. Their hours suck, though.
>>2660990
>Used to be sketchy sleazy and fun
The Strip was never like that.

>>2662904
>Man people earn A LOT more money nowadays then 10-15 years ago.
You are an idiot. Wage growth has remained stagnant but cost of living has not. The dollar has lost 25% of its value in the past four years, yet nobody has gotten comparable pay increases to offset it.
Congratulation of being a code monkey but you're delusional about wages for most people.

t.probably make more than you but I don't shit on people, like you do

>>2675334
I just got tickets for The Eagles at the Sphere as I was coming over from Australia for the When We Were Young fest, hopefully the visuals are great but I'm just happy to see a band there instead of the standard film

>>2675354
How can a casino cheat at craps? Loaded dice?

>>2666058
>Yes, things are 2-3 times what you pay at home, but does your hometown have the Bellagio Fountains? A scale model of the Eiffel Tower? A fucking pyramid?
Well that's it, I'm sold. Now I need to waste my hard earned money on some man-made fucking replica of some man-made shit.

>>2675624
I meant roulette.
>I love roulette and I played a lot, but it's one of the easiest games for a casino to cheat on.

I've actually seen wheels that were rigged.

>>2675368
There was a sweet spot from about 2002-2011 where the strip was significantly more affordable and there were more things geared to families. Treasure Island had a giant pirate show, there was a giant arcade under the M&M store, all the parking garages were free, Caesar's Palace had a giant Lego display in the mall, there was a giant waterpark next to the Sahara, every casino had a cheapish buffet, there was a free monorail connecting many of the casinos, etc. All that stuff is gone now. They realized that families don't rake in the dough. Now there are expensive restaurants, the sphere, 2 stadiums and 2 giant convention centers. The table limits that used to be $5-10 in 2011 are $25 in most strip casinos now. The deals are all downtown now, but so are the blacks. You can thank legal weed for that. Luckily, the people who run Fremont street book 80's cover bands and metal bands and it keeps the nogs away closer to the edge of Fremont.

>>2675647
>I’ve seen wheels that were rigged
How do you know a wheel is rigged?

>>2664872
>don’t play slots
if you want to earn comps, slots are the way to do it. my last trip i took a grand to gamble and played almost exclusively slots, max betting the whole time. got down half my bankroll quick then hit a few decent smaller jackpots/bonuses and ended up leaving down slightly after making almost $15k in total slot bets. when you bet $3 to $6 per spin it adds up quick. that casino now sends me multiple free room offers monthly, free upgrades, free food and drink, $50 daily gambling credits, shit like that. casinos love slots players and take care of them, especially people betting max and gambling for hours a day

>>2675664
At some places Keno is even more highly rewarded than slots. Things like Multicard Keno and Caveman Plus are good for churning money and time.

>>2665994
one thing i dislike about station casinos (and all strip casinos) is their sit down restaurant pricing. they all have cheap food court shit like panda express or sbarro but if you want a good meal it’s $30 per plate and $11 for a light beer. ate at the mexican place at GVR recently…$59 after tip for three tacos and two beers. not worth it.

>>2667474
Ben Affleck got banned for card counting a few years ago lol
>>2675665
That makes sense. Keno has worse odds than anything in the casino and is played by boomers exclusively

>>2675651
my first vegas trip was 2012. i was barely out of college and broke. had a blast while spending $300. not possible anymore

>>2675668
Yea, definitely not. You can still get a hotel deal on a midweek, but parking is $40/day if you rent a car or drive out. They all charge $50/day resorts fees on top of the price. The buffets that used to be $25 are $50+. The one way you can do vegas cheap, is to eat off the strip on the west side of town. There are tons of good locals joints all over the city, especially in chinatown. I've had better Kebabs in Vegas than in Greece too. We also hike a lot in Vegas. I drive up and I always bring my skateboard and hit the free skateparks all over town with my niece. If we go out for drinks, we do it downtown. The bars are much cooler downtown and reasonably priced.

>>2661078
There are way to do Vegas cheap. Overall you’re correct tho. It’s made for drunken debauchery and throwing money around on frivolous bullshit

>>2661892
>1. what's it like going to vegas solo?
Fun. Highly recommend it. I prefer going alone than with friends. There are too many options on what to do any a group of 3+ will never agree
>2. any other activities besides gambling?
Live music, strip clubs, eating good food, Hoover dam, hiking, roller coasters, shows
>3. favorite show you went to see?
Absinthe and the stupid Harry Potter comedy show
>4. favorite hotel on the strip?
Always liked Mirage best, though it was getting dated last I stayed
>5. favorite restaurant?
Settebello for pizza, Din Tai Fung for Asian/dumplings, Bavette’s for steak under $100, Peppermill for late night and breakfast

Went for the first time in 2020 and just not my kind of place. Fremont area was filthy, saw literal human shit on the sidewalk, casino parking garage smelled like piss and I'm amazed my truck didn't get broken into. Hotel room was worn and stained.

Mob museum and atomic testing museum are interesting, but even the museums gouge you. Stratosphere rides were fun. I'm not a big gambler, drinker or partner, but even if I was everything is overpriced and I hate tourist traps, which everywhere is now it seems.

>>2676059
Sounds like bad planning on your part though. You don't like tourist traps, so you went to Las Vegas and visited some tourist trap museums and overpriced rides at the Stratosphere? There are a thousand things I would have done instead. Next trip, do something like this
>>2669263

>>2676067
Kek that’s every other post in Vegas threads like I said here >>2661078

>>2675667
Sometimes I wonder what the best way to “buy” comps is if you had the same bankroll and didn’t care about the outcome
>playing a “comp system” on roulette to grind for time with the risk of losing everything each time
>playing through $300 of slots or keno
>playing $300 of straight bets at the sportsbook/racebook
>playing $300 of long shot parlays at the sportsbook/racebook
>going all in on a $300 hand of BJ
>playing minimum bet PaiGow Poker burning down $300 and hoping to get a lot of pushes to maximize table time
>buying $300 of their online fun slots credits

>>2660287
If I wanted to travel to a place like Vegas it would 100% only be for throwing away $1k or something on gambling for fun, and if that's something I truly wanted to do I would just go to Macau. Yes Las Vegas has a way better entertainment industry, but I prefer not to get robbed or stabbed when walking back to the hotel by a crack addict or some south american immigrant who lost his entire life savings trying to achieve the american dream

>>2675332
>$500 at a $25 blackjack table will last you 3 hours.
You'll burn through it quick if you are playing basic strategy and you will get backed off even quicker if you find a table that isn't continuous shuffle and are counting. You are better off doing $500 roulette strategies like Fibonacci to quadruple your money fast. Craps is still your best bet.

>>2676155
I lived in Las Vegas for 2 years and I visit 3 to 4 times a year to visit friends. I've been going for 20 years. I have never once had an issue on the strip or downtown on Fremont street. The worst thing that ever happened to me was some homeless lady pet my dog too hard. Like any other city in the US, 99.9 percent of the people who have problems are involved with buying drugs or messing with hookers. Weed is legal in Vegas, and there are 10,000 asian massage parlors, so there's no reason to get put into a bad situation.

>>2676233
>you are better off doing Fibonacci on roulette
No. No you are not. Roulette odds are horrible. Maybe if you can find a single zero wheel

>>2676303
Bellagio used to have a single 0 wheel with "Surrender" in the high limit area with a $100 minimum bet. I think they got rid of the surrender rule, but that was only a house edge of 1 percent. If you were going to place a large bet on roulette, that's the place to do it.

>>2676313
That is “French Roulette” as opposed to American or European. If the ball lands on 0, depending on the rules of the table, your even money bets (red/black, odd/even, high/low) will either push but be obligated for the next spin, or the casino will only take half off the bet as a loss.

>>2676059
>I'm not a big gambler, drinker or partner, but even if I was everything is overpriced and I hate tourist traps
Why would you even go to Vegas in the first place, lmao

>>2660287
It used to be fun. Loved going in my twenties. Now it's a giant fucking rip off meant to separate you from your money as quickly as possible and they don't even care. It's a scam a minute from every angle.

If I want to play shitty virtual table games with awful odds that will rinse me, I can do it from my laptop on Bovada, ACR or Stake... and I won't have to pay $20+ for a shot of liquor.

Poker and food are the only things the Strip does well. (Unless you're a whale)

>>2676450
>poker and food are the only things the strip does well (unless you’re a whale)
They don’t have krill on the strip?

>>2674944
Not on any regular casino floor in Las Vegas. 6:5 and shitty gimmicks run rampant. If you want a decent Blackjack game in Vegas your looking at 50/min tables and since you have no experience playing I'm gonna assume that's above your bankroll.

You'll get rinsed unless you catch some short term heater asap

>>2670617
I've had one trip where I hit a slot for $1160 in Harrahs like 15 minutes in. I won almost 2k on slots that weekend and left even.

It's extremely hard to leave vegas up if you drink and gamble a lot on your trip.

>>2676456
Lmao

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I can keep going on and on about Vegas... but to put it in the simplest terms. The Strip has gone down hill ever since they closed pic related.

It's still fun. But you shouldn't have to pay what you do to have that kind of fun.

>>2676460
Play $1 video poker hands while you drink. Infinite free drinks and with a good pay table video poker has a low loss rate. You might even make a boat and win $10 while chugging 3 drinks in 10 minutes

>>2670617
I enjoy gambling. Never used to play slots but since all table games have moved to high minimums I mostly play slots and VP now. I’ve never hit a slot winner over 800 despite playing literally tens of thousands of spins in my 3-6 annual Vegas trips. I bet max frequently but not always. How tf does everyone have a story about winning taxable levels of money on slots

>>2676483
I always struggle understanding with which machines you need to max bet on and which ones are just you risking more money for the sake of risking money.

>>2676482
I know, and I do. But they are a whole lot stingier with the drinks on video poker machines at the casino bar than they used to be. I had only found two places on my last vegas trip that let the booze flow while playing and that was Venetian and PH. Wynn actually still charges for drinks while playing at certain casino bars.

>>2676546
Old school style reel slots bet max unless you're trying to hit and run $25 and above machines.

Gay hold and spin slots, play whatever your comfortable with that still allows you to hit the bonuses

Just came back from Vegas. Played blackjack, lost 100 bucks. was winning quite a bit until the chink dealer at the Bellagio pulled 4 straight 21s lol.
Watched some shows, went to the Hoover Dam and Red Rock.
It was bretty good overall

>>2676468
Osheas moved to the Linq Promenade.

>>2676547
Interesting. I’ve never seen anywhere in Vegas that makes you buy drinks while you gamble, but I also avoid MGM/Caesars properties as much as possible

>>2676549
>hold and spin slots
What does this mean? Like the newer video slots with the bonus mode where you have to fill up the whole screen?

>>2662903
>Don’t to be retard and go to the Strip for more than a day or two
Why else would anyone go to Vegas, everything else sucks there. Who cares about fucking cheap steak and lobster from some dump when you spent $400 flying there plus hotel, if I go to Vegas it is to blow cash on things I can't back home, not to penny pinch.

Food in Vegas is subpar unless you are spending money you just won. The strip is ghetto as hell, it literally feels like I'm in Mexico in some parts. If you are a local you avoid the strip at all costs, and living in Vegas becomes like living in any other boring city without any of the benefits and 100 degree plus weather most of the year. But that's what Vegas is about.

The entire point of Vegas is to do shit that you wouldn't even want to be able to back home. If going "cheap" in Vegas is your goal, maybe you are better off in Reno, or so I hear.

>>2662908
So wait if I spent $50 on lunch then I'm rich or poor? Either way it seems that I'm an idiot. Even Mickey D's is like $20, so does that make me even dumber?

>>2670837
>Chinatown in Vegas is insanely good.
For someone who doesn't know shit about asian food. Any basic chinese imitation place can make ramen. Have you ever had "bad" ramen? They all literally taste the same. Tell me one good Chinese restaurant there. And not that beef and broccoli shit.

>>2672253
You could have just said that you weren't gay, but ok

>>2672265
doubt

>>2672683
For that price you should go to Mexico and hit the strip clubs there. Best strip clubs I've ever been to, although I'm far from being a connoisseur.

>>2672750
>I can’t drink or take drugs anymore
I'm in the same boat but just went to Vegas recently after years. You can find other things to do. You'll be surprised at the change in perspective that doing the same things you used to when sober. It's not bad, just different.

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I've been to Vegas twice in the last month and a half and I've hit 3 $1000 jackpots and 4 $100 line hits on Cherries Jubilee at MGM Grand, with about $500 - $600 coin in. It's kind of an all or nothing machine. You're either going to hit that jackpot or walk away with nothing, you won't get enough regular line hits to sustain your play. But the few times I've been over there the machines were hitting jackpots left and right.

Male sure you max bet $3 spins.

>>2677282
Yes.

Anything Buffalo related, huff and puff, lightning link/fire link ect.

>>2676877
I know, and it sucks ass now. It's a soulless corporate rebrand of something that used to be one of the funnest places in Vegas.

>>2677280
It's hit and miss, and sometimes I'm willing to bet it depends on who your interacting with at the bar. Like I said PH kept my drinks flowing for hours one night, and Wynn handed me a tab for $20+ for a shot of liquor after I put $100 into their poker machine.

I've also heard some places like Cosmo will record your play and allow for free drinks once you've hit a certain coin in number.

>>2677367
The bar machines have a light on the back. When you first start playing it’s red then turns yellow after about $10 coin in at most places. It’ll turn green once you hit $20 or maybe $50 coin in then stays green for like 10 minutes and they’ll pour whatever you want when the light is green. If you keep playing it will stay green

>>2677335
My experience with most of the modern slots ( especially those boring as fuck collect medal chinese ones that dominate casinos) is that on lowish stakes, proper jackpots are so rare that they're basically never going to happen so they basically turn into ultra low volatility slots that will just relentlessly drain money.

>get a feature
>typical win is <20x

Online casinos have learnt that medium to high volatility is the way to go, seems weird that Vegas is behind in this. The number of slot streamers I've seen do a big special "I'm going to Vegas!" and clearly be massively underwhelmed by them.

>>2677476
Vegas doesn’t need to use well paying slots. They can fill their casinos with whatever garbage low volatility slots they want and people will still play.

I played one of those Chinese firecracker ones in Vegas a few weeks ago and you’re exactly right about the payouts. You can’t win money on line pays. You have to get a bonus, and 90% of the bonuses pay about 10-15x your bet. It’s extremely difficult to win on that style of machine. They also promise bonuses to dumb players with meaningless animations so people think “oh it’s close!” when really it’s not

>>2677476
dont gamble much…last casino trip i noticed there were hundreds of nearly identical chinese slots. my girl wanted to play so i watched her. in two hundred bucks she got zero bonus things and had only a handful of spins where she won money. it was horrible dont understand why people play those. she got her players card thing for promos and it kept track of $1 bet = 1 point. in those two hundred bucks she accumulated 265 points so she lost over 60% of every spin bet

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>>2677468
As far as I know the machines at PH hadn't been upgraded to that system yet. The bartender would just lean over and look at the credit in and want to see you press the button a couple times per hour. I found using a $100 bill looked more believable than a $20 at bartop machines.

They just put your first a drink receipt in a rocks glass behind the machine to signify that you were in fact "playing".

But it's been 18 months since my last time in Vegas and it wouldn't suprise me to find out all the jew casinos have switched to a more verifiable method.

>Just give me my free $5 drink and I'll turn into a total degenerate gambling addict, you cheap bastards.

>>2660287
Going in a few weeks, how can I tell which girls are undercover hookers with pimps waiting to mug me

I've never been before, but I get the feeling it's where normies go to feel like they are experiencing "sin city." In their minds that means a couple more drinks than they would have at their shitty local bar. When you've actually experienced real debauchery around the world it doesn't have the same excitement about it. It's designed to suck as much money out of the 3-7 day tourist as possible with overpriced food, overpriced shows, and the gambling. Now that it is infested with third worlders it's even less appealing. I would still probably go for a weekend if i was in the area, but I wouldn't make a special trip for it.

>>2677476
>>2677486
My grandfather is obsessed with the chink drum machines. It’s weird to internalize an 88 credit min bet penny machine is more than 3 credit quarter old school machine. I still can’t figure out what game I really like. I don’t like the asian or the link slots so I’m already at a disadvantage. I guess Quick Hits and the original Buffalo are okay.

>>2677697
>3-7 day tourist
Absolutely no one stays in Vegas longer than 72 hours. 48 hours is the perfect trip duration

>>2677703
If you want to play slots to win money you need to play the old school high volatility type with 3 physical reels instead of 5 video reels and a million symbols

>>2676468
I loved Osheas. I didn't even realize it was gone. My favorite shitty casino was the Klondike. It was across the street from Mandalay Bay. In the early 2000's, you could play 10 cent roulette at the Klondike with an actual wheel, not a digital wheel. The minimum bet was 50 cents with 10 cent chips. I wasn't brave enough to try the $1 all you can eat Spaghetti dinner they offered.

The best deal going in Vegas these days is to go to Fremont Street and walk into the liquor store and buy a beer. They pour it for you into a cup so you can walk out with it. You can get a 24oz beer for $4. They have multiple stages going every night on the weekends with bands playing for free.

>>2677302
I'll humor you, because you obviously know absolutely nothing about food. First off, Chinatown in Vegas is primarily Japanese, Thai and Vietnamese now. A lot of the Chinese places from the early days of Chinatown are gone. It you start looking up on Google or Yelp, or really any review website, you'll see dozens in the 4.5+ range, which bodes well with the insane number of people who visit Vegas. Ramen Tatsu is my favorite Ramen place in Chinatown. They make traditional Japanese style Ramen. They have a bunch of different styles, but I get the Tonkotsu where they boil a pork bone for like 24 hours to make the broth and serve it with braised chashu pork. I also mentioned two other Japanese Izakaya places that are amazing, Hachi and Ichiza. An Izakaya is sort of like Japanese a la cart. There are literally about 30 places on my list that I want to try in Chinatown.

>>2660287
I’m very fond of Las Vegas and I go once or twice a year

>>2677711
I bought a liter of rumpleminze in the airport and took a few shots every time I went back up to my room. Gets you a nice buzz and then you just have to maintain it until you want to sit down and gamble. I was buying lots of mini bottles from the convenience store in TI too. I think they had fireball (it's awful) for like 3/$9 mini bottles.

I'm mainly a poker player and sports bettor, so the cocktail service to those games are usually a little better.

O'shea's has been gone for over a decade now. I was legit sad when it was closed, now with the Mirage my two favorite Vegas casinos are gone. You really couldn't beat the $2 Coors at O'shea's for cheap drinks on the strip.

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>>2677857
>this will replace the mirage
soulless

>>2677893
You Wynn some, you lose some

Coming form overseas in October, anons gimmie your

- Best dispensary for DUDE
- Best place for happy ending massage
- Best place for legit hookers

I have everything else booked like magic shows and shit, Piff, Penn and Trashman, what other racey adult shows should I go to?

Thanks fags

>>2678079
find a guy selling fentanyl and smoke as much as you can

>>2678079
I hate coomers so much it's unreal

I don't have to cosplay being rich when I visit Reno.

>>2678079

>- Best dispensary for DUDE
rent a car and drive to Sacramento, Norcal weed is miles better than Socal weed
>- Best place for happy ending massage
San Francisco, you're in the wrong city for cheap massages that are not literally sex because prostitution is completely legal in nevada
>- Best place for legit hookers
ask the concierge for a quality escort service and understand that you will be buying her dinner for real and the dinner will cost at least $200 per plate before alcohol. But she'll be clean and you'll be her only customer that night

>>2677366
>It's a soulless corporate rebrand of something that used to be one of the funnest places in Vegas.
That's everything really. Everything is becoming more and more souless.

Any Vegasfags here with an extra ufc 303 ticket? I’ll give you a hundred bucks

>>2678292
Sent you a link ;^)

fuck me.i am getting a 3 day free vegas trip(round trip + hotels/food for free) but it looks like i cant get the visa in time.
bros did i really miss my chance?how do i live with this

>>2678307
Vegas will always be there. It will just be worse the next time you have a chance to visit it.

>>2678292
jiri to win by ko

>>2677893
Fuck off w/your Mirage nostalgia. It was great and groundbreaking in the 90's but it's been crap for at least the last decade, from a rooms/resort standpoint. The strip is constantly reinventing itself - if you want nostalgia on strip go to Circus Circus and catch Legionnaires disease.

>>2678468
I always liked mirage. Haven’t stayed there in almost a decade tho. I’m sure it has gone downhill since they announced closing

>>2660714
Kek

>>2677718
Have you been to Asia? Did you grow up eating any kind of Asian food? If not, stfu. Nobody cares that you are a ramen fanboy or how many restaurants you "want to" try. Asian food in Vegas is 3rd rate at best compared to California and even god damn NYC. Your so called izakaya are nothing like the ones in Japan and are owned by the Chinese who know you wouldn't know the difference anyway. Does it fucking matter what the ratings are when everyone who rates them has the same shitty idea of what "Asian" food is?

>>2678468
Ywnbaw

(You will never be a whale)

>>2678468
Vegas isn't reinventing itself, vegas is boiling the frog. They've gone from a cheap vacation to "fuck you, pay me".

I hope that Caesarsfag ceo that is poo pooing the degenerates like me who helped fiance that city chokes. Do you really want a 25 millionaire baccarat players, Daniel Negreanu and the rest of the strip to be fent zombies and illegals?

>>2678652
Untrue. Again, you're talking out of your ass and making things up. You said earlier that you went to Vegas and ate and Tony Romas. You thought Ramen was cup of noodles and that Chinatown in Vegas only served beef and broccoli. All of the places I mentioned are owned and run by Japanese with Japanese chefs. My best friend who lived in Vegas for 20 years was married to a Japanese woman and she sussed out all of the best places in town for us. Also, I live in southern California, and I find the quality in Vegas to be vastly superior to what we get here, unless you go to LA, and who the fuck wants to go to LA. Rather than fabricating stories, you should actually try some of these places next time instead of eating at Tony Romas since you're complaining of having bad food in one of the premier food destinations in the US.

>>2678775
Vegas hasn't been cheap for almost 20 years anon

It seems like a lot of people in this thread who say that they had a bad time and spent too much money in Vegas recently were just poor planners. It's a not a good city to wing it. I get that the Sphere is insanely expensive and table limits are way higher than they used to be, but you can still find cheaper things to do than blowing $300 on Sphere tickets in Vegas. Comedy Club tickets range from free to like $30. I saw Smashing Pumpkin tickets for $60. Penn and Teller is still like $60. You can get tickets to KA, the ninja Cirque du Soleil show, for $60. That show is fucking great. We always reserve the private Tatami rooms at the Japanese restaurants for free when we eat dinner. There are hundreds places all over town where you can get an hour massage for $50. Rather than blowing a shit ton of money at the tables, go to a Poker tournament instead. You can play a tournament at Sahara for $40. South Point runs a $60 tournament. I really should make a giant list and just start posting it in these threads.

>>2678775
Have you ever read about Phil Loveman? The story of Harrah’s and Caesar’s is interesting when you compare it to Wynn’s arteur design and Kirkorian’s bipolar business deals.

>>2678921
>COO, Loveman was responsible for the establishment of the company's Total Rewards loyalty management system, which gathers data on casino customers. The program allowed the company to analyze the travel and spending habits of their customers. Through this, Harrah's determined that repeat slot players, not high rollers, were most profitable. Under Loveman's leadership Harrah's began to focus on building loyalty and bringing more of these gamblers to the casino

This was Vegas' bread and butter for years and now whomever is running the show now wants to pivot away from that.

To me that seems kind of add as Caesars properties in Las Vegas are all mid tier and lower resorts. Is Harrahs, Horse Shoe and the Linq really going to attract rich Asian baccarat whales?

>>2679101
You’re going to see Caesar’s/MGM properties get less and less relevant while off-strip casinos boom

>>2679101
Maybe it’s because I’ve never been inside, but I never got the appeal of Caesar’s Palace. It always felt like they were trying to sell a MGM Grand tier resort as a Wynn tier luxury.

>>2679128
That's definitely it. Caesars is a lot like MGM Grand, massive sprawl and a river of people but it's all in the name they built in the past.

Personally I think Paris is the nicest Caesars resort on the strip.

>>2679128
You can literally get lost in Caesars. All casinos are a bit labyrinthine but Caesars is the worst. I walked over 2 miles inside that casino looking for a restaurant one time. Turned the wrong way at the entrance and did a massive loop around the entire place

>>2679168
Yea man, I walked around for an hour in there one time trying to find a cage that could help me with wsop online stuff. I eventually gave up and just punted the $100 I had in my account.

You'd think they would let you transfer it to their sportsbook app, but heaven forbid Caesars make an online gambling product that works.

Does $10 blackjack exist anymore in Vegas? Used to love playing for hours on $200 and getting hammered on free coronas

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>>2660959
This was my impression after visiting Vegas.
Its a place for people to feel wealthy. Indulgence in what the nouveau rich or faux wealthy perceive as the conspicuous consumption of the upper class.
What astonished me was how everything in Vegas is a parody of something else, and yet it has gotten to the point where the parody is something sought after itself. I think this is exemplified by the Gondolas and canals of the Venetian. The entire system of enclosed waterways smelled worse than a public pools, acrid chlorine sifting through the entire system of shops and restaurants. And yet people were standing on bridges taking pictures and even paying to be poled around by fat white guys in Popeye costumes. The entire thing was repulsive

>>2679452
I saw $15 6:5 at some of the lower end strip resorts but you'd probably have to go off strip to find $10 now.

I remember O'shea's having it in like 2010.

>>2679496
>6:5 blackjack
Fuck that. Will never play 6:5

>>2679701
Well prepare to pay $50 min or to travel to obscure off strip joints. I'd be shocked to find out there is a $10 3:2 table anywhere in the USA.

My local casinos don't even have $10 3:2 anymore.

>>2679888
Reno has $10 3:2
You can find $10 3:2 downtown Vegas weekdays like El Cortez
My local casinos have $5 3:2

>>2679452
Yes. Ellis Island right off the strip has it.

>>2660941
If you're not a moron and "grind" properly you can actually make money on craps. The last few times I played in a casino I came home with 600-900.

>>2680205
lol retard
>bro just play a game where the house has the edge 100% of the time and you’ll come out on top!
You must work for MGM
The ONLY way to win consistently is to get good at sports betting or poker.

>>2660848
Yes, they are a fun group to have teach you. They will teach you more than training sessions at the casino. Otherwise you will need to find the training sessions at casinos in the morning.

>>2680218
I worked for Bellagio as a pit clerk and saw the numbers daily. The Craps tables lost money for the house on a lot of days. It was the only game where the house lost regularly lost money. People tend to press their bets in craps. One good roll for the table and the house would lose thousands. There is a point where the casino stops you from doubling your bets after a win because the mathematical advantage flips to the player. I've seen rolls where someone hits 6 or 8 ten consecutive times with guys pressing their bets until they were told they could not press because they hit the table limit.

>>2680246
Why lie?
Games don’t exist if they lose money daily. Every craps table makes a killing on stupid prop bets like hardways.

You’re full of shit.

I'm going at the end of July. Any suggestions for off strip places to check out?

>>2680487
see
>>2661039

>>2676149
In general you earn points much faster playing slots than table games. Unless you're playing $100 hands of blackjack or something else high limit. Casinos want slot players. The house edge on slots is like 8-15% per spin depending on machine. House edge on blackjack and craps are around 3% for the average player who makes mistakes and even less for skilled players.

>>2676762
>4 straight dealer 21's
time to get up from the table when your luck turns like that

>>2679452
Bellagio and Venetian have $15 blackjack hand

>>2680514
I did, just to cut loses. The chinkshit taunted me asking if I was scared, I told him to fuck off

>>2679488
Still, probably smelled better than actual Venice.

>>2673393
>casinos are suddenly more greedy now than they ever were

Yes, because they went from Italian mob to Jewish mob.

>>2660287
>broke fag has a bad time in vegas
wow cool story bro

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>>2661892
1. My best trip ever was a solo trip.
2. Yeah hanging out by the pool and chatting up babes
3. Beatles LOVE!
4. That's tough. In the Winter I like Aria cause of the hot tubs and coed spa. Last time I was in Vegas was May and we stayed at Delano and had an awesome time there. Loved Club Moorea.
5. Best Friend

>>2680723
>Bellagio and Venetian have $15 blackjack hand
Bellagio absolutely does not have $15 blackjack and very much doubt Venetian does.

>>2683302
They prob both have $15 6:5 blackjack if you go at 8am Tuesday

>>2683309
Kid, shut the fuck up.

>>2683699
Good post!

>>2683703
Better than your cringe larp post.
You're a little loser on here playing pretend.

>>2683302
Venetian absolutely do $15 6:5 blackjack and I was there on a Friday
I clearly remember because I lost like 60 bucks on 4 hands

>what are your thoughts on Vegas
It can still be very fun when done right. I strongly suggest avoiding the strip as much as possible. If you want to visit the strip, just walk around and people watch for a couple hours. Spend your time and money downtown or at other off-strip properties like the The Orleans or Red Rock. You get the same type of entertainment at 1/3 the price when you avoid the strip. Eat at non-casino restaurants and drink at non-casino bars unless you get free booze and food for your play.

if you have to ask, it's not worth it.

>>2684235
Besides offering 6 to 5, A lot of those blackjack tables have other rules which are just as bad. No re-spiting pairs, no double down after a split, You can only split once...etc. That will kill your odds. It boosts the house edge from about 5 percent to more like 9 percent which is nearly twice as bad as roulette.

>>2684235
>I was there on a Friday
No you werent, kid. Just stop.

Bizarre shtick this guy is pulling ITT

Anyone have advice for Vegas if you go there with some money? Like $10-20K budget for roughly a week?

Wynn vs. Fontainebleau?
Best shows and dining?

>>2684639
Regardless of budget my advice is DO NOT spend a week in Vegas. Absolute maximum 96 hours. The only catch would be if you're there for work 4+ of the days, or you're playing in a poker tournament or something else that will occupy the majority of your day and night. Four days in Vegas is an eternity. Seven days is suicidal.

Regarding hotel, I'd rather stay at a fancy suite in a 4-star place like Resorts World or Paris than a 5-star place like Wynn. Similar experience and you'll save yourself 30% per night.

>>2684639
>guys please play along with my larp
Kill yourself.

Just came back from the casino
>$5 min carnival games including UTH
Cool
>$10 min BJ
Okay
>$15 min Craps and Roulette
Fine
>$1 min PaiGow Poker
What? I thought they usually cranked the minimums on PaiGow up because you pushed so often?

>>2679452
>Does $10 blackjack exist anymore in Vegas?
Park MGM has it in the morning and early afternoon.

>>2680261
You've obviously got no idea how craps works. Same thing with poker. You can minimize your exposure to house kosherness if you aren't mentally retarded.

>>2685778
In craps the player cannot possibly have an edge. The closest you can get is taking massive odds on the point or laying odds on the don’t pass. There is no mathematical scenario where the player has an advantage in craps. Thats why the game exists in every casino in Vegas

>>2685926
You can’t get an advantage, but you can avoid terrible bets like Big 6 and 8, or bad odds like Double/Double field, “Strip Odds” vs “Downtown Odds”, paying the vig upfront on Buy bets

>>2684648
NTA but why shouldn't he spend a week in vegas?

>>2685957
I've never stayed in Vegas longer than 3 nights and usually I'm ready to leave by the end of night 2. All my friends who love Vegas agree. Never longer than 3 days.

>>2680261
That's absolutely incorrect. The craps tables lost money quite a bit. But those dudes would inevitably blow their money on other games. Gamblers are degenerate and very few of them have the discipline to walk away when they were up. They'd walk back in the next day and lose it all. I saw a dude from Turkey who was a craps player that was up lifetime drop 2 million in 15 minutes on Roulette. Not to mention that insane amount of money they'd drop on food and rooms. The villas at Bellagio goes for 20K+/night. A dinner at Le Cirque will run you $1000 for 2 people.

>>2678652
Stfu those imitations are an American classic invented to bait white people. You’re brown.

>>2686095
>the craps tables lost money quite a bit
No. No they did not. They MAYBE have two or three losing nights a month when someone gets hot.

>>2685926
I didn't say you have an edge, I said you can avoid the typical kosher fuckery if you're not retarded. You an pull or move bets if you have had 10 rolls without a 7 for example. Also consider if a Hard 6 hasn't rolled in like 75 rolls it's more than worth it to throw a cheeky $20 on it.

Also it is fun in general, if you have a good table you're all working together. Autists on 4chan probably won't get that aspect.

>>2686522
>if a hard six hasn’t been rolled in like 75 rolls it’s more than worth it to throw a cheeky $20 on it
This site is so math illiterate it’s unreal
The odds don’t change whether they’ve rolled ten consecutive hard 6’s or haven’t rolled one in 12 hours
Every roll of the dice is independent of previous rolls.
What you’re describing is the gamblers fallacy and one of the major reasons casinos thrive

>>2685926
Also taking the double or whatever the casino you're in calls the extra bet on pass is only worth it if you've got money or made some $ there already. Imagine for example it's on 6 and you have $25 on pass, putting another $25 on it if you're up a couple of hundred is more than worth it.

>>2686523
I didn't claim that it's more likely mathematically. I know it isn't. But the universe works different when you gamble. A cheeky $20 spot when I haven't seen a hard 6 in a minute is worth it if I've hit a couple of numbers on the current game.

I went to a ramen restaurant off the strip called sora that sold giant ass bowls of ramen for like 6 bucks.
This was a few years ago, but I thought that was a pretty good deal

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>>2662078
I went last year. Was pretty good to see people's cosplay. Though at night it got boring and I went to Vegas

>>2686128
I worked at the Bellagio as a pit clerk from 2001-2003. I saw the numbers for craps every single day, 5 days a week for 2 years. It was my job to keep track of all of the money that went in and out on the tables. The craps tables lost money a lot. There was no high limit area for craps at Bellagio and everyone played on the same table with a $25 minimum. Rarely they would jack it up to $50 or $100. A high limit player at Bellagio might play $5000-20,000 per roll. The swings were huge. If a big player was up, it cancelled out all the little players for the day.

>>2660287
>For a long time, Vegas was known as the place where poor people could roleplay being rich, as rooms and food were affordable for so long.
That's because everything was subsidized by gambling. The hotels could offer you great room rates and free buffets because they would make their money back and then some on what they made off you gambling. This was not guaranteed however, and people with enough self-control to avoid the tables and slots just enjoyed the loss leaders without spending money elsewhere to make up for it.
Over the years more and more people came to do less and less gambling, and casinos needed to raise prices to stay afloat.
Now Vegas is the go-to place for conventions. I am going to one later this year. I'm staying at one of the biggest and fanciest places on the strip. Did I get a discounted room rate for the convention? Yes. Would I care if I didn't? no, my company is paying for everything.
That is the final domino to fall. The shift towards business travel means that people who go there are spending money that isn't theirs, so as long as they have a generous T&E policy, they don't care what anything costs.

>>2660287
I've going there right now, currently stuck on a layover hopefully I'm there within the next 6 hours

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>>2687019
A high roller craps player rolled Fontainebleau for $1.3 million on their opening night, so I can see why.

Las Vegas is based. If you’re a middle class type stay off-strip at a decent casino hotel, gamble a total of $5k coin in, and you’ll get treated like a king with free room offers, free food and shows, etc. Strip casinos won’t give a fuck unless you’re gambling 4x that much. It’s not hard to get to $5k coin in on slots and table games if you take $500 to gamble

>>2680218
Facts. Sports betting and poker are the only possible ways to make money, which you can if you are good, but you better be damn good, and more than likely you will lose due to other house advantages like the casino taking a rake from every pot and the fact that two 50/50 teams that Vegas believes are dead even to win a particular matchup, will both be priced at -110 meaning you have to bet at least $110 to win $100. (It's why Vegas loves it when the public is around equal betting on both teams. They profit no matter what). This is why you should only make a few sports bets. If you bet at lot you won't be profitable or even not down if 50% of your bets cash. You need to win around 56-60% of your bets to be profitable.

>>2687248
You dont know what youre talking about, kid.

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>Strip casinos won’t give a fuck unless you’re gambling 4x that much.

>>2687416
You’re the worst poster ITT

>>2677705
the new slots with digital reels and a million progressive jackpots are the high volatility ones, if you really want to play slots and farm comps you need the low volatility machines with frequent, small line pays.

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>>2687418
OK but I actually go to Vegas. You dont.

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You kids dont know what you're talking about. It's Quick Hit all day every day.
It's also that Wolf Run machine though too.

>>2687422
I feel the big jackpots are so rare on those Chinese "collect coins" machines that they're functionally ultra low volitility.

Features that tend to top out at 20x are fucked up, especially compared to online slots (particularly No Limits slot's insane x win features).

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>>2687443
You are the worst poster here

>>2687493
Yeah I hate those machines. In the bonus you fill up 13-14 of the 15 slots every time but never get a major or grand jackpot. And they’re fuckin everywhere now

>>2687445
Quick Hit has to be one of the worst popular slots. I’ve played thousands of spins and one time got the 6 quick hit jackpot. It’s fuckin impossible to get the 7-8-9 ones

I don’t know where else to put this but I fucking hate sports betting places being shut down. AZ lost Betway, Sahara, and SuperBook in just the last month. I don’t want to end up stuck with one place to play like Florida and the Jewinal Trive

>>2688114
Also, who the fuck uses FanDuel anyway? No rewards, shitty boosts, no promos, and not even very strong lines.

>>2662078
Im In SF. We could meet in Barstow or closer to you. Im not a bum and can make arraingements

>>2677704
Ill be there for 5 days. First time

>>2688114
Sportsbooks operate on very thin margins so they need a high volume of wagers to succeed. When there’s fucking 17 legal betting apps and Fanduel/Draftkings/BetMGM own 85% of the market, the little guys are never going to make it

>>2688115
Fanduel has garbage odds for everything besides major sport spreads and totals. I saw an over-under player prop on Fanduel once that was -140 both ways. The UI is very good and they have first mover advantage so lots of people use it still.

>>2689220
>5 days in Vegas
That’s way too long if you’re staying on the strip or in a casino hotel. If you’re staying in a house away from all the madness you’ll be fine