one of the highest rates of drug use and depression in the country for a reason
the nature is nice, but there is something wrong with the region that gets to people

>t. only lasted a year

>>2684175
It can't be that bad. Right?

>>2684190
You will get SAD, have to stare at a lamp and take pills to not kill yourself. Even if you feel fine other people won't, so everyone is a miserable asshole.

>>2684192
Is this in every city and town in Washington?

I think the PNW has a weird subculture pervasive in it. If you want cloudy and cold, I would just draw a line between Pittsburgh and Boston and live anywhere between that line and the St Lawrence-Great Lakes.

The entire eastern half of the USA has trees everywhere. Move to Georgia if you want trees. WA is depressing and shitty

>>2684192
I want dark, ominous, cloudy weather everyday so I can hurry home and listen to prohibition era jazz in my shitty apartment and smoke cigarettes reflectively on my balcony.

Seems comfy, and as far as muh social life, I have absolutely no desire.

>>2684334
Same anon.

>>2684173
olympia is nice but seattle is best. The small washington towns are just as depressing as small towns anywhere else in the usa

>>2684175
Is it worse than BC? I wanted to make the move there I cannot stand BC anymore and went to Washington once and loved it.

>>2684334
Consider Pittsburgh instead

>>2685075
Um, no. I’m going to Seattle, thanks

thoughts on Spokane Washington anybody if somebody is big into outdoor activities?

>>2684334
>>2684790
I suggest Forks, Washington. That is the town that Twilight was set in.....the dark, cold, mossy aesthetic is what you are looking for. Astoria, Oregon is the best place next to Forks. The only other place that ticks your boxes is the Alaska Panhandle. The AP is where I want to reture someday.

>>2685150
I hate to admit this but I don’t have a car, haven’t driven one for 3 years now, and I really don’t miss it, so these far flung carfag locations I can’t partake in, but I respect anyone who frowns at me I’m not a liberal I just think cars are a pain in the ass

>>2685096
Closer to Montana and glacier, but that's about it. Spokane is a shithole. West of the cascades has better scenery and bodies of water.

>>2684173
Beautiful nature, increasingly melanated and drug-addled population, state government is a dumpster fire par excellence.

>>2684334
>I want dark, ominous, cloudy weather everyday
Western WA has lots of clouds but it's not really "dark" or "ominous" and is basically boring; it's just very overcast very consistently.

>>2685096
>thoughts on Spokane Washington anybody if somebody is big into outdoor activities?
Just keep going east at that point until you hit Idaho or Montana. Better outdoor recreation, not a meth'd out shithole and you don't have to deal with the truly abhorrent state government of WA.

>>2684192
>Even if you feel fine other people won't
This is what's so frustrating. People here are just anxious and completely out there. People and even bartenders who can't look especially new people in the eye. It's such an off-putting feeling to keep encountering this.
And it's only the white people who are like this.

>>2685263
>Western WA has lots of clouds but it's not really "dark" or "ominous" and is basically boring; it's just very overcast very consistently.
>Basically boring
Yes. Southeastern US has DARK clouds that block out the sun so it's actually dark, dump water, lightning rages, but Seattle just.... It's cloudy, very little lightning at all, no major wind, "rain" just sprinkles.

>>2685307
>People here are just anxious and completely out there. People and even bartenders who can't look especially new people in the eye. It's such an off-putting feeling to keep encountering this.
Everywhere in North America is like this now

>>2685307
Bartenders, police officers (I'm not joking), security personnel, restaurant workers, grocery store checkout retards have all been timid or anxious and often continue to be so when I have the misfortune of having to deal with them again.
It's such a strange phenomenon.

>>2685167
imagine having a superiority complex over missing out on things due to your own laziness. no one thinks that you're an intellectual or a free spirit just because you don't have a car

>>2685320
I don't believe that. At all. People like Texans are not complete autistic retards and just will just talk like normal with people. And like I've posted before, it's mostly just the white people who are like this. Even here in Seattle I've had lengthy and friendly conversations with people and not feeling any anxiety or off-putting bullshit but they were all with, you guessed it, non-whites. White people here are out of their fucking minds. Asians, hispanics, blacks have overall been chill and amicable. The white people? Anxious, gay, timid, gay, passive aggressive, and pretty fucking gay.
>those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad
Intredasting

>>2685327
>I respect anyone who frowns at me I’m not a liberal I just think cars are a pain in the ass
Fucking dumb animal I literally inb4’d this kind of response within my own post.
>laziness
Yea walking everywhere is lazy bro. I don’t feel like being accountable for some faggot metal box and it’s upkeep on gas and insurance when all it would amount to is expediting running errands or commuting to work (maybe)
>superiority complex
Suck my balls weasel lol

>>2685329
Brown people are joyous, exuberant, and love to live and love. They are happy and have many children.
Whites are anxious and afraid. They live in fear, knowing that the state is working towards their eradication. They are afraid of talking to another due to fear of racism and microaggressions, increasingly barred from employment due to ESG policies, knowing that their species is going extinct surrounded by joyous people that hate them.
Oh, how wonderful it is.

>>2685467
Sure. Sensible perspective. I shouldn't judge too harshly some of them and I'll keep that in mind for the future.

But others? They appear to just be the liberal mutant types who have a chip in their shoulder against me for nothing but my appearance.
>Strong white man bad
Or whatever their fucking problem is.

>>2685465
Based and walkpilled healthmaxxing
I also walk a ton and it's a big part of why I'm not a fat disgusting pig like so many others I have the misfortune of seeing daily

>>2685465
choosing not to go somewhere because it's too far for you to walk to is laziness. choosing to not be accountable for maintaining a vehicle because it's a "pain in the ass" is laziness. your inb4 is meaningless because you do not have a valid argument. do everyone in this thread a favor and walk off of a cliff.
>>2685481
>unironically responding to your own post

>>2684173
Move to Ballard

>>2685631
Why Ballard?

>>2685085
Then enjoy not having dark cloudy weather everyday. Only Pittsburgh gets that.

>>2685167
I also don’t have a car and have lived all over the U.S. If you’re not a pussy you don’t need a car anywhere. You just walk. There’s literally nowhere a car can go that you can’t also walk.

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>>2685544
>choosing not to go somewhere
Yea the “somewhere” is a remote city only accessibly by car you stupid ape. I’m talking about Seattle. Stop arguing with me for the sake of argument. Fuck cars and fuck you

>>2686102
stop making retarded statements with the expectation that people will sympathize with you and stay the fuck off of the travel board if you're too afraid to travel.

>>2685669
No, ugly

>>2684334
This is probably a case of "you think you want it, but you don't". Shit stops being kino fast and leaves you with SAD. and when you get older you will absolutely regret being dismissive of "muh social life" I guarantee it. Also the vibe in Washington is garbage

>>2687283
What if you're surrounded by trash though? The issue is there's so few people around worth having in your life. So if you're in a social desert, wouldn't it be the correct thing to be content being alone? To be able to keep pushing through the fight of life by yourself while the dregs rip each other up is better than having them in your life. Yes no?

>>2684175
>but there is something wrong with the region that gets to people
Why? Do you not like being upper left guys?

>>2685096
Every single person I've known from Spokane is either fucked from drugs or still on drugs. Take that for what you will.

>>2687283
Honestly man I can’t escape myself. I want a hopeless atmosphere if I’m forced to remain in America, and Seattle seems par excellence.

At some point I’d like to make my way down to Eugene. Seattle doesn’t seem to have a lot of chimps

>>2684173
Michigan has a ton of trees and beaches too, lakes as big and moody as oceans...it's arguably a better part of the country to live than western Washington, if you can handle the lake-effect winters. Lots of little towns up north where life goes on like it has for a long time. Summer rainstorms tend to be brief, but cool cloudy days are common.

These passive aggressive dumb animals with their antidepressants and dogs are such trash.

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OP here. Just came back from in Olympia. Not a big fan. People were nice, city was gay, really gay. Should've gone to Oregon. The cities there were much nicer.

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>>2687709
>from in Olympia

kill me already.

>>2687709
>Olympia was too gay
Too bad you didn't see seattle

>>2687714
I've seen enough of Seattle's gayness on the internet to avoid it.

>>2687709
Washington in general just seems to be more run down and crappy than Oregon

>>2684175
similar with Maine. I think it's the winter, but those pussies out west have a much shorter one so wtf.

>>2684173
>>2684175
What’s wrong is it’s so heavily industrialized. I’m planning on going to pnw again but I’m going to Oregon. It’s prettier more natural (the high rises just aren’t as high) with the economy bleeding out due to antifa Covid and poor government it’ll be looking more ripe to pick in the future. I’m just debating if I want to buy a dingy house or just to wait and buy coastal property far away from people. But I like the Oregon culture too. More weird and slowed down. More liberal just needs a few years of bounce back from global changes.

>>2685669
You look like every young dude in WASA.

>>2685150
How do you like live and pay for life out there without being loaded ? Is it a city or would it be better to have a good in there already ? I wouldn’t mind to commute some time to work if it gives me scenic route and saftey from crime and drugs.

>>2685669
Fuckin mutt faggot. You probably think you’re handsome

>>2688133
Can’t wait to be a security guard in Seattle :)

>>2688137
My buddy out there, I just left a bit ago. He was somewhere doing casino security guarding. Watching the camera for those old Japanese people. It gets real and shit but it’s rare. It’s light work night shifting sitting in a video closet. I’m excited for you if it’s that route.

>>2688237
I don’t have anything lines up. That’s just what I’m intending to do

thinking about moving to seattle, but I see oregon brought up on this thread.
Anyone working on robotics or automation field in oregon ? how is it ?
I found a couple of open position for robotics engineer in seattle, which I think I can easily get. got 3 year experience working in san diego.

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Stay north of Seattle and you'll be fine. Seattle/Tacoma is shit.

Arlington/Mount Vernon/Sedro-Wooley/Anacortes.

Avoid Widbey Island

>>2688798
>Avoid Widbey Island
why

>>2688813

Navy base. Lots of suicides via the bridge occur. Also lots of Mexicans.

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>>2688798
Is this a decent area anon? Research has shown me this isn’t a chimp-heavy zone.

>>2688868
It'll still be expensive, but you'll be fine.

Arlington/Smokey Point is as close as I would want to be to SeaTac as possible. You can take the train in and out Seattle, and it isn't too expensive.

>>2688884
Ok sorry for all the questions but where is a cheap area with minimal blacks that’s north of the space needle?

>>2688888
I haven't lived in Washington in years, but If I remember correctly, east of shoreline is is fine. Idk what your budget is , but the other towns I mentioned earlier are perfectly fine and low in blacks.

>>2688893
K thanks

>>2684173
Spokane man its the Jewel of America but you gotta be willing to drive. Its like a family/college town with nice river walk and fishing, nearby Idaho, can drive to Seattle, Tri Cities, you are bound to have something to do.

Just bite the bullet and do what you can afford in Seattle otherwise, its got bad vibes but I dunno just go in not trying to be a right wing spooky douchebag and make trouble and whenever you see a fellow White person give them a light nod and remember you cannot get pussy unless you get personally introduced. Get linked in to some organizations and go from there.

If you want to go big, try canvassing for Kamala Harris campaign almost everyone will agree with you, comfy as fuck and filled with young women. pro tip

>>2688907
God this sounds so pathetic. Why the duck did I move here. These people are legitimately freaks.
>Give your fellow white people a nod
These faggots look miserable and walk their fucking dog.

>try canvassing for Kamala Harris campaign almost everyone will agree with you, comfy as fuck and filled with young women.
These people are garbage.

What are some comfy cities in Oregon?

Looking into relocating up north and will visit soon to scout areas. Open to anything but Portland since I don’t want to be around trannies.

>>2684173
>rent is high, houses start at $1m for a crackshack
>cost of living is california prices for england scenery
>grey cold and wet 3/4 of the year, The Big Grey leading cause of seasonal depression
>unlike california, doesn't even have good beaches
>all the food sucks, all of it, and if you don't tip 40% the waitress will plaster your face on tiktok to cancel you and throw your food on the ground
>price of a crappy meal starts at $30
>coffee and donut is $9 plus tip, sandwich is $20
>druggies on every corner, every car window smashed out, have to wade through human feces and hope the junkie is zonked out enough to not aggro and attack you while they're passed out leaning into a trashcan
>random hammer and machete attacks from gronks, not joking
>every park filled with gronks living in tents, dozens of random fires a week from gronks setting everything on fire while trying to cook their meth
>locals are all NPCs who wander around staring at their phone all day, if a gronk was assaulting a child they'd walk right past and not even try to help
>den of old money, only way to own property is to inherit it
>if you weren't born here and didn't grow up in an established friendgroup you will never make friends
>not that you would want to because everyone is a passive aggressive virtue signalling twitter literally shaking cunt
>obnoxious mix of bodypiercing-obsessed grunge crustpunks, trannies, tech bros, obnoxious asians with a superiority complex, and stuck up cunts
>tranny flags in every window
>trannies everywhere
>entire areas are no-go zones
>if you call the police for help they will never show up, if you report your car stolen they'll shrug and tell you to buy a new one
>yoofs, kia boyz, miles "the hellcat", whorora avenue, tacompton, not-so-white not-so-center, roving gangs of 13 year old gangbangers committing gunpoint robberies, everything south of yesler being a crime filled wasteland, meme politicians, tax increases every year, dog shit everywhere

>>2688907
>spokane
>the jewel of america
if by jewel you mean crystal meth

>>2684192
>SAD
this only applies to black and other swarthy skinned people whose melanin prevents them from absorbing the vitamin D from the clouds

>>2691358
LOL

>>2691355
It's funny how nearly every single thing you posted is true in that I would see nearly all of them just by walking through the city one day. I did it again today and yet again keep thinking about moving. I keep wanting to like Seattle. I keep trying. But the longer I stay here the less I like it. The people are so trash and there is so much legit mental disorders all over the place. I don't understand how people can be this bad. It's a great place to keep my face at the grind stone and keep working, but at some point you look up, realize your skin is aging, and wonder what you're working for again while time passes like this.

Vancouver, WA is easily the best place to live in the entire PNW

>>2691949
You mean because it's a tax haven? Washington has no state income tax, and if you cross the river into Portland to do all your shopping they have no sales tax.

>>2684173
despite the FUD in this thread, im still going to Seattle. If it sucks ass, my fallback is gonna be Cleveland.

>>2692398
It's good to still give it a shot. See for yourself. I also used the place as somewhere quiet and private to get over personal issues and just work and grow but after a couple years I wanted to start branching out socially and was consistently frustrated with how terrible the people are. I'm leaving for Thailand in two months and am considering giving Seattle another shot after since to be fair to the city I had a lot of personal shit clouding up my mind and had a rough start. I just think at 35 I probably shouldn't bother so much with social life shit at this point.
Just make money and fuck off. Seattle is still a top tier candidate for that.

>>2692469
based, im going to thailand in 2ish weeks. once ive gotten my fill of cooming ill be heading to seattle. As much as people yap about the weather, i want the dreary overcast, low humidity clime. I don't care about social life so idgaf if its a bunch of turbo leftist faggots. as long as i can carry a baton or a sub 3.5inch knife im ready to rock.

i wanna fuck a few hooks off aurora avenue. im tryin get active

>>2692398
>my fallback is gonna be Cleveland.
Why fucking Cleveland?
California would probably be better fallbacks.

>>2693023
cheap, low population, low cost of living. i dunno, thats a spitballing kind of location. more realistically, it would be denver, but i don't want to go back there. wanna go somewhere new

>>2691949
traffic is hell during daylight hours if you have to commute to Portland

>>2693070
I work from home, you'd have to be desperate to work in Portland

>>2688758
Seattle cost of living is probably 40% higher than Portland. Seattle feels like a much larger city and has better entertainment and all the 'big city' shit. Portland has a smaller town feel and it's less chaotic, more chill. I always preferred Portland to Seattle. Lived in both for a couple years each. I miss Portland, don't think I'd want to move back to Seattle. Grain of salt tho, I lived in Portland 2011-13 and Seattle 13-15 and I've heard both have really gone downhill the last decade

>>2688907
>Spokane
>jewel
Spokane is an absolute fucking dump. Do not consider living in Spokane unless you're ultra conservative and/or live for the outdoors. Even then, live in northern Idaho instead.

>>2690815
If you avoid Portland proper you'll miss out on most the leftist bullshit. Live in Oregon City, Milwaukie, Sherwood/Tualatin, or Hillsboro. The leftist bullshit is mostly contained to the urban center of Portland and doesn't leak out much into the suburbs.

Outside of Portland, Salem is getting more and more popular and starting to get fairly expensive for a place that was a complete shithole 10 years ago. I always liked Corvallis even though it's boring, nice little quiet college town. Eugene is a larger Corvallis with more meth heads and hippies. Bend is gorgeous but Californians discovered it around 1995 and have destroyed it. Southern Oregon has some cool towns like Jacksonville and Ashland, though Ashland is very very liberal so you'd probably hate it. There's almost nothing in the eastern half of Oregon, very remote high desert that's hot as fuck in the summer and cold as fuck in the winter.

>>2684173
Seattle is hell on Earth. It makes me want to die.

>>2691355

It's painful how true all this shit is. Been stuck here since 2002 and been trying to leave since 2019. It was a shithole when I moved here and it's a bigger shithole now. My greatest fear is that when I die and go to hell, I'll be transported back to Seattle.

>>2688130

>What’s wrong is it’s so heavily industrialized.

If you honestly think that Seattle is heavily industrialized, you never spent anytime any of the Rust Belt states. Seattle's manufacturing industry is small compared to most cities with real industrial bases. Seattle is dirty looking because the locals are too stupid to maintain the infrastructure and too lazy to do any work.

>>2691355
Sounds like Vancouver BC.
The whole PNW is cursed.

>>2687419
If you are surrounded by trash people (and not in jail) that usually always means you are a trash person yourself. Maybe read "how to win friends and influence people" to begin with so your shit personality doesn't scare quality people away.

>>2693979
Can’t wait to move there fellas :)

>>2688130

don't this place is a shithole, the people are passive aggressive af too

>t. lived in Oregon for 20+ years

>>2688137
I think it's hilarious that you believe Seattle people are somehow less shitty and more white than in Denver.

>>2694104
I consider Seattle to round out my “tour of America.” I grew up in DC so I already know how people are over here. They act provincial, stuffy, and sometimes sharp, but have a politeness that isn’t too syrupy and gross like the Midwest. Denver was like Midwest lite in terms of dumb, syrupy nice bumbling idiots, and overall mid and tolerable.

What I’m expecting from Seattle is California douchebaggery but mediated by introverted self-absorbed tech bro dork faggots, and also super leftist Marxist cat shit people with colorful tattoos and hair. All in all, I feel like I’ll get a good understanding.

I’m not really keen to investigate small-town south or Midwest because I get the perception those people are just dumb fluoride cow people

>>2694124
People in Seattle are passive and standoffish and don’t want to be your friend. The Seattle Freeze is real

>>2694130
I’m totally ok with that. I’ve got enough social accumen to come off as pleasant and considerate but I’m misanthropic and don’t want to interact with people deep down so by all means, I want a social ice age

>>2694130
Which works out well because so many of them are total losers whining about the cost of.kiving while the rest of us are growing financially. Locals are losers. If you want quality people in your life you have to talk to the others who moved here and haven't been crushed by the passive aggressiveness and shunning.

>>2694141
Theres dozens if not hundreds of shitty apartments not too much more expensive than 1.2k north of the space needle and away from the yesler "housing development."

i even found two hotels offering rooms for 300/wk which is going to be my entry point. should be fun

>>2694139
You'll fit right in. In the four years I lived in the PNW I made exactly one friend

>>2694151
What's wrong with yesler? There area looks very convenient if you like the Asian stuff in the area and aren't afraid of the street rats. I've actually considered moving to somewhere in that area.

>>2684192
Why isn't the UK like this?

>>2694167
Because Americans are always looking for a reason to blame for their own shortcomings like losers.

>>2694167
Seattle has about 40 more sunny days per year than London and it's not as far north so the winters aren't as dark and dreary

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>>2685150
don't ever recommend anyone live in Astoria unless you hate them. something is wrong with the water there. if i had to guess, it has something to do with historical logging practices. everyone in that town is ancient and twisted in the head or young with several dozen birth defects. not to mention there's not a damn thing to do but smoke crack, work minimum wage or scam the elderly.
...the local pizza is good though

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>>2685669
if you're approachable, probably. you look like the most generic race-mixed zoomer i've ever seen. in fact, do you live in oregon? i swear i've seen you before.

>>2694175
Astoria looks nice until you spend a couple days there and can't wait to get out. Pretty much the case for the entire Oregon coast as well, which is why no one lives in Astoria/on the coast. In 400 miles of OR coastline there are 150k people total

>>2687810
as an oregonian, washington is diet oregon. it has everything we have, but less and, as far as i've heard, more drugs.
growing up in portland, thats hard to imagine, but i can believe it after that one weekend in seattle..

>>2694104
in a lot of towns i've lived in, the most dangerous junkies are white dudes. after that, white chicks.
if there's a silver lining to racial profiling around here, its minorities put a lot more effort into giving the police less reasons to arrest them.

>>2694180
uneducated economist loves it apparently >>2694183
ill take """"dangerous white dudes""" over the most docile black "man" (chimp). its easier to larp as being in the Last of Us

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>>2694184
> its easier to larp as being in the Last of Us
what the fuck does that mean?

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>>2694188
city full of sketchy, disheveled, "dangerous" white people

>>2694171
Exactly, so why don't the British behave like those in PNW and get SAD?

>>2694201
I already told you. Americans are freaks.

>>2694201
All they know is dreary gray shittiness. There's no seasonality to create a disparity. Seattle summers are S-tier then they get horrible fall and winter

Some thread some anon posted that people here are too concerned with self policing. Does anyone have input on this? I've had many people ask me questions or saying things like they're trying to see what would happen and having vibes that seemed like they're trying to sniff out something and get me to confirm some bias they have in their retard head. It's really weird.

>>2684173
Naturally and geographically the best place on Earth, socially and culturally bad. Maybe the smaller towns like Bellingham are okay idk but dont move to Seattle

>>2694141

>Which works out well because so many of them are total losers whining about the cost of.kiving while the rest of us are growing financially.

Only people growing financially here are the tech grifters milking VCs out of money for ideas written on the back of napkins. The economy here hasn't developed beyond that market with the exception of real estate speculation, but that goes hand in hand with money. The jobs here pay fuck all and there's almost a complete absence of a professional work culture; no one knows how to fucking do anything out here because the "fake it till you make it" culture that you see in a lot of technical fields is so pervasive in the area that it's common to meet people who have decades of experience in their chosen trade, but never achieving proficiency at it. With so few experts to find mentorship from, it's impossible to build a career out here if you're not in tech; and consequently limiting your earnings.

>>2694350
Head on down to Kent/Tukwila bud. There’s about 200 square miles of industrial and commercial activity down there

>>2694614

It's not any better down there. Kent is literally the 10th fastest growing city in the country according to the 2020 census. COL is as bad as any suburb of Seattle and the wages ain't keeping up.

>>2684173
there are trees in eastern WA as well, just not everywhere, plus less browns. Move to ID at this point

>>2694054
I frequently come across higher value people in the many cities across different states and countries I've been in. Here I can just be outside and casually overhear many people talking about their therapist, or their antidepressants, or something stupid about politics like men taking credit for women's achievements, some guy randomly offering to help some woman correct her form on some exercise in the gym and she was appalled he would dare butt in, or just seemingly always trying to sniff out "fascists."
It's the people in Seattle that are the problem far more than I am. You freaks need to get your shit together.

>>2697382
It's a huge part of PNW culture to police each other passively and try to get other people in trouble (without confronting them).
It's gay as hell and why NYC is much better, at least people there will mind their own business.

>>2687460
>I want a hopeless atmosphere if I’m forced to remain in America
If you want to feel hopeless you're better off finding a small former industrial or agricultural town with a failing economy and abandoned houses and shuttered businesses. Plenty of them around in the midwest and southwest.

>>2697382
These faggots always have the same response too. Local faggots will try to gaslight you, as if them being weird asocial hostile passive-aggressive freaks is your problem, and that you have something to do with it. Or more importantly that you are the problem for noticing they're a bunch of cunts.
Nah, they're just a bunch of mentally unstable assholes trying to control each other.

>>2697474
>police each other passively and try to get other people in trouble (without confronting them).
This is EXACTLY what I have been experiencing. It's garbage and I hate these people now because this pathetic behavior is pretty common.

>>2699278
And this too!

These people are rats. I don't get why these freaks act as they do and how they're allowed to be here. Trash like this should have gotten managed out a long time ago but it seems to be the dominant behavior and culture here. It's garbage. It's dystopian and dysgenic.

>>2697474
they sound like angloids

>>2699274
Nah, those falling-apart BFE places are perfect for anti-social cats who prefer no interactions with strangers. Nothing inherently hopeless about that. And not every impoverished town is a hopeless shithole. Independence, Kansas has been losing people for seven decades now. Median household income is $47K, compared to the $75K average in America. Yet it remains a very nice place to live. Somehow most downtown storefronts remain occupied, probably because rents are in the range of $300/month. Main Street bars still have $2.50 happy hour beers and 99 cent wing specials like it was 2014. The city park is huge and lovely. Hell, the town even has diversity, a smattering of blacks and browns. The Mexican torta food truck was pretty damn good, cost $8 and the guy loaded it with delicious grilled beef.

>>2699866
>And not every impoverished town is a hopeless shithole.
Yeah, people tend to forget that statistics are bullshit. I grew up in a place that is a crime-riddled hellhole in the poorest county in the entire state by the numbers but the whole time I was growing up there I never even heard of anything more serious than a DUI or a fight at the local bar - and incidentally, that latter place is where like 90% of all of the violent crime in town was. People sold produce using honor boxes and left cash payments under a rock on the front porch. Obviously it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows but god damn.

Where in the PNW would you find a "vibe" of a town, scenery, population like in the "Life Is Strange" videogames and/or "Stand by Me" (1986 movie)?

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>>2684173
>Is Washington State worth moving too? I want to live in Western Washington, with all the trees.

STAY OUT, FAGGOT!!!!!!! WE'RE FUCKING FULL!!!!

THIS IS ONE OF THE SHITTIEST PLACES ON EARTH!!!!! GET CANCER SOMEWHERE ELSE, NIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2687709

Olympia is a fucking lunatic faggot shithole owned and ran by kikes. I had the misfortune of living in that shit hole for a year and I'm there a few times a week now. Literally the most institutional Democratic shit hole where all the faggot politicians are along with one of the most obnoxious populations of faggots and homeless. Not as bad as Seattle but pound for pound just as annoying and fucked.

DON'T FUCKING COME HERE, FAGGOTS

>>2703853

I lived right on the main street in Olympia for a year. It was amazing the kiked faggotry of that fucking rat nest shit hole. They would put the fucking flags up on the mainstream for whatever faggot globohomo bullshit the kikes were pushing that week. So we got faggot rainbow flags, Ukraine flags (what the ever loving fuck), Earth flags for Earth Days and so on and so on... it was funny because on July 4th, they put American flags out for like a day and you could just feel how much it pained these filthy fucking kikes. But the faggot flag and earth flags stayed for a over a month.

One of the most vivid memories i have of that time in that shit hole was watching a bunch of filthy fucking jew rabbis riding around the streets for Hanukkah with a gigantic police escort... really just a display of who owns that fucking shit hole.

>>2703853
Lol seething local. Get fucked loser. You're getting colonized by indians and everyone else and you're so fucking mad.

>>2688868
Is anyone going to tell him about 99?

>>2703515
Isn't the whole point of Stand By Me that the past is a foreign country and you can't go back to it.
That said, the little towns in Oregon, like Coos Bay, Astoria, feel like they haven't changed since 1959 or 1989. The Sierra towns like Bishop and Truckee in California also feel this way. Crescent City also.

>>2704026
Thank you for your reply.
>Isn't the whole point of Stand By Me that the past is a foreign country and you can't go back to it.
I honestly haven't thought that deep into the story of the movie. To me it was a beautiful slice-of-life story of a reminiscing, near middle-aged father forced to reflect on his childhood and his history due to the loss of his old friend from school.

>>2703855
You seem mentally healthy!

People often either act like you don't even exist or you may get passive aggressive snark. Act like you don't exist to your face but then try and fuck with you in the background. Like the other anon said, people try and get you in trouble without confronting you. Either ignore you or fuck with you is what they like.

And it's people who moved here doing it. These miserable fuckers.

>>2704072

Live in Olympia for a year, faggot. Then get back to me. I was a liberal until I lived in Seattle and Olympia. Now the only sane decision is genocide of all leftists. You will feel this way too if you spend any length of time there with an IQ over the 100.

>>2704186
>with an IQ over the 100
That must explain why the industry outside of foreign tech workers is so bad here. Locals are too low IQ lmao. Also makes sense why they seem to hate anyone successful.

>>2688815
Just avoid oak harbor. The rest of Whidbey is great

>>2684173
yes

>>2684173
seattle is top tier

>>2699278
>Nah, they're just a bunch of mentally unstable assholes trying to control each other.
So that's what they're doing. I've noticed a bunch of these people will be passive aggressive and if I simply ignore them and go about my business over time they start ignoring me or brushing me off and avoiding eye contact.
Is that the game these dumb animals pull? Passive aggressive bullshit to try and control you or else you get shunned?
Pathetic lol

>>2684190
it's really not that bad. out of all the "bad" parts of america, it's definitely nice.

I've always thought about going to Washington, there's other places I wouldn't mind moving too but I like that the weather doesn't get too hot, coming from a place that barely has winters and is too hot in the summer. I'm also a winter lover too, plus I'm looking for an environment where I can grow trees and crops for myself with pretty stable temperatures

>>2707079
>seattle is top tier
in what categories of life?
I tried it out but couldn't get the place to stick for me

Limited fun with dating, but great tabletop game groups.
fun bonfires, good thai food

Nit OP, all I do is get terrified on super strong weed and go on very long walks

I am in Denver but its far too much concrete for me

How would I fare in Seattle

>>2709560
All concrete in Seattle unless you live in the outskirts. Probably similar to Denver in that regard

>>2709560
>I am in Denver but its far too much concrete for me
Go to volleyball at cheeseman park.
I didn't like that seattle has way way more rain. denver at least offers clear days and, IMO, better housing

>>2709878
rain doesnt bother me but a laser tier sun does

>>2709888
>rain doesnt bother me but a laser tier sun does
PNW in general is worth a look for you then.
seattle has better thai/other asian food by a lot, as it's a hub for chinese/indian tech workers

>>2709888
It seems to bother others here though. You'll be surrounded by miserable and passive aggressive cunts. >>2684192

>>2685669
>something happens in public
>this guy takes out his phone and starts recording
>says "Yooooooooooo!" and "Bruhhhh!"
>"Hooly shiiitt bruhhh"
>Yyyooooooo!
>Did he just--- bruhhh

>>2710026
I avoid others it sounds like they are similar people to me

>>2704290

All the industries out here are sorely lacking in qualified and skilled professionals, and that goes double for tech. Any highly technical profession can be easily bullshited because of the high barrier to knowledge, making it more difficult to call people out on being incompetent and being shitty at their jobs.

That tangent aside. In the PNW, it's common to meet people out here who have been in their trade for decades, but never achieving any real level of expertise in it.

>>2691949
How walkable is Vancouver? I'm torn between it and Eugene though I like Vancouver more due to being closer to a major city.

>>2711804
Not walkable in the areas I'd recommend living, all of which are more on the outskirts. You could probably get by near downtown.

>>2685667
This summer in Pittsburgh has been fantastic. Not The weather here is pretty schitzo for half the year, but it's not all clouds and gloominess.
The people are way less miserable than in Seattle though.

>>2694219
That’s just left wingers in general. They want everyone to be identical and socially punish outcasts for being different

>>2691949
Isnt that like the rainiest place on earth

>>2712703
>https://www.redfin.com/blog/rainiest-cities-in-the-us/

#9 in the US, so not the rainiest in the world lmao. But yes it is rainy half the year like most of the PNW.

>>2711920
Downtown is exactly where I'm looking actually. I expect homeless dope fiends but are there bigger issues there?

>>2712587

That's because Pittsburgh is a real city for normal people. It's not a haven for neurodivergent retards.

>>2685669
Seattle area is known for having one of the worst dating scenes in the country.

>FOB H1Bs men and incels working in tech outnumber the local women
>local women are hyper liberal feminists, drug addicts or fat Mexicans
>fridgid personalities all around

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Bumping for insight on Vancouver if anyone has some to add, I'm going to be visiting in-person soon but info is nice as well.

>>2716683
Ditching Seattle plans?

>>2716711
Nah, I'm not one of the anons that was talking about seattle.

>>2713372
>>2716683
Not bigger issues, mostly stuff like property crime. Rarely violent crime apart from family related murder suicides.
I'm not a big fan of downtown though. It might be cheaper than Portland but that's about all it has going for it. I'm guessing you don't have a car? Areas that are less walkable are much better around here like salmon creek, camas, ridgefield, battleground,etc

>>2716853
>I'm guessing you don't have a car?
Correct, walkability is pretty much essential for me. I like downtown too just because it is so close to Portland for flights and concerts, etc.

>>2693026
>cheap, low population, low cost of living. i dunno, thats a spitballing kind of location. more realistically, it would be denver, but i don't want to go back there. wanna go somewhere new
I thin Denver is superior for long term life, but if you're just passing through do whatever

>>2715598
Please trv/bros, be honest with me, is it really THAT bad in Seattle? Strongly considering moving there from my small Mountain Time Zone city.

>>2717048
COL will be 1.5-2X Denver. Move to Vegas instead, way more security guard jobs.

>>2717048
>Strongly considering moving there from my small Mountain Time Zone city.
If your best motivation for Seattle right now is "consideration" from the middle of nowhere...well there's your answer. It's HCOL USA. A consequential place to impulse move to.

It depends on what your priorities are I suppose

>>2693935
There is no such thing as COL

I can rent a room for the same price in any city in America and I can eat goyslop for the same price anywhere in America.

COL only begins to exist when you begin to attempt to purchase things that will offer you social credit with others. Don't do that.

I fucking promise it costs the same to be a bum everywhere.

>>2717134
Depends on how you define city. Cleveland is a city but an apartment in downtown Cleveland will be a fraction of the cost of downtown Seattle. You will also find way more quantity of cheap apartments in Cleveland, and the quality will be better for the same price.

>>2717149
$600.

I can find a room for $600 per month anywhere in America.

In fact, it is easier in Seattle than it is the rural shithole I grew up in because nobody rents rooms in rural Kentucky.

>>2717159
>>2717149
I am currently paying $465 in a wealthy part of Denver

>>2717134
What is this NeverTraveller B.S. What you get for your money varies tremendously across America, both in accomodations and in food.
>>2717159
This statement completely ignores the vast disparities in room size, house amenities, general upkeep, and desirability of the setting that $600/month will get you in different cities.
>>2717160
Virtually no landlords rent at below-market rates to the general public. I pay $500 for a one-bedroom apartment in Chaffee County. It's awesome, but entirely irrelevant to someone looking to move here, as the owner only rents to employees working for one of his family businesses.

>>2717159
Post a room in Seattle for 600

>>2717162
"A room" is different than an one bedroom.

>>2717160
>>2717159
How?

>>2717163
There are quite a few on craigslist at this very moment

>>2717171
Because I'm not retarded

>>2717162
>vast disparities
idk man $465 per month gets me my own bathroom and a nice bed in cherry creek, a quite nice part of denver is that not enough

>>2717162
also
>what you get for your money varies tremendously across america

literally only true if you do faggy ass tourist shit go live like the fucking rats and you pay rat price anywhere you stupid bitch

>>2717188
>idk man $465 per month gets me my own bathroom and a nice bed in cherry creek, a quite nice part of denver is that not enough
With roommates?

>>2717198
nta, but yes.
no 1bd to yourself goes for <$500 in cherry creek.
it would be a room in a shared house

>>2717199
>room in a shared house
>he's in his 30s

>>2717198
>Roommates
Dude you are traveling are you not do you need a royal fucking carriage???

>>2717210
Seethe, you can live in the nicest parts of America if you want

My roommates are awesome we go skiing

>>2717188
Former Denverite here

Hats off you you. That’s a steal

>>2717306
Because people assume you have to spend a lot and just accept it

You don't there are options all over the area

>mexicans have been doing this for decades

>>2717290
>traveling is signing a lease to live in Cherry Creek
American "vagabonds" everyone.

>>2717290
>seethe, you can live in the nicest parts of America if you want
No you can't, you got lucky and found a good deal on a roomshare in a nice neighborhood. That happens, but rarely. The average roomshare in an urban area (an actual city, not Cincinnati or Denver) is like $1200 now.

>>2717326
>Signing a lease
>For a room
Bro have you ever used craigslist in your life

>>2717326
There are dozens of options all over denver and seattle at this exact moment, there are more options in these cities than there are in rural Kentucky

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>you cant live for $600 a month in rural Kentucky

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>Seattle and Portland too

Go, go and leave your corn fields and hollars! Go live with the fancy people!

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>Colorado

>>2717365
>>2717364
>>2717361
I had one of the search criteria as "private bathroom" by the way so not even sharing a shitter!

>>2684173
I lived in Washington State for most of my life. People always say, "I love rainy weather" "I love the trees" until they move there and realize they haven't seen the sun in 10 months and everything is slightly damp and smells like mold. On the good side though, most of the people that live there are pretentious assholes so you won't have to worry about having a social life.

>>2717361
>>2717364
>>2717365
Have fun living in a trailer with a sex offender or in a roach flophouse with 10 pajeets.

>>2717410
Bro are you fucking retarded? I am in a zero crime neighborhood with people I get along with. I step outside and I see the mountains from my porch. I am close to everything.

You snarky authoritative reddit losers are just trying to keep people from having a good time

>>2717431
>bragging about the view from Denver
Now I know this is a LARP.

>>2717500
The front range is sick it already snowed once on the mountains couple days ago

I come from Kentucky, a 3rd world country, I Was impressed by Kansas dude

>>2717368

The mountains too. They always talk about how nice it is to look at the mountains. The ones who gush about the mountains, rains, and forests, without fail, tend to be NPCs. Because aesthetics is the most important thing to these retards.

>>2717652
Bait

>>2717771

>NPC detected

How the fuck does staring at mountains and forests, materially impact your day to day life? They don't, you think they do because you have little responsibilities and obligations in your life to occupy your attention and time.

>>2717811
>He doesn't go hiking as often as possible

Lmao you are not even human

>>2717829

>He doesn't go hiking as often as possible

>you have little responsibilities and obligations in your life to occupy your attention and time.

Way to prove my point

>>2717839
>material gains
>responsibilities and obligations

I think you are foolish

>>2717652
>>2717811
>>2717811
Piece of shit city dweller. Seeing you call others NPCs is rich coming from a soulless worthless drone like you

Packed my shit into a storage unit today and left. Fuck this place and I won't likely live here again unless I'm getting paid mega money.

>>2718033
>Packed my shit into a storage unit today and left.
>I won't likely live here again unless I'm getting paid mega money.
Why even store the stuff then, unless you've got some irreplaceable stuff you can't carry off with ya?

What would mega money be? I'd estimate like 300k, which is what a lot of level 2 big tech engineers in the city would be making. Seattle makes little sense unless one is in tech or being sugar momma'd daddy'd by someone in it

>>2718035
>Seattle makes little sense unless one is in tech or being sugar momma'd daddy'd by someone in it
*yawns loudly*

>>2718035
Bad news but every single corner of America is expensive now

Cost of living is a myth you can live like a bum everywhere or spend every penny of a 10,000 monthly salary everywhere

Maybe 10 years ago, but there is definitely no cost of living difference between some random Iowa cow field and the west coast.

In 2024 you are making $20 an hour and paying $1200 rent in all places no matter what.

>>2718091
>>2718092
This x1000. These COL fags don’t realize a single man can survive on 22k a year. That’s with your own apt etc.

>>2718154
please give tips on doing that

>>2718175
Not that anon but you're too much of a princess why even ask bitch

>>2718175
>no health insurance
>no car therefore no gas/insurance cost
>eat one homecooked meal a day during your normal schedule
>simple pleasures
>no going out and spending money on stupid shit

Everything beyond this existence is strictly and solely for the sake of getting a mans pecker played with by a western whore

>>2718092
There’s no way West Coasters are this delusional.

>>2717840

And being a NEET is a dead end

>>2718027

Life happens in the city and it's where all the economic opportunities are. If want to stare at an empty field all day and waste time, that's on you. Most people don't share in your preference. There's a reason why cities are crowded.

>>2717652
Mountains get boring quickly. I've lived close to them my entire life so I don't really see them. The irony is though that the ones going on about MUH MOUNTAINS are the ones that never leave the house.

>>2718242

You often here these doomer sentiments from West Coasters. The whole region is utterly fucked by shitty tax policies; NIMBYS obstructing new housing developments, and Chinese millionaires/billionaires buying up real estate to hide their assets from the CCP.

>>2718286

>The irony is though that the ones going on about MUH MOUNTAINS are the ones that never leave the house.

And they never going hiking either. It's all about aesthetics for these people.

>>2718284
Mindless drone bug man detected

>>2718284
>Muh dead end

I possess none of your soul, your values are not mine, leave me

>>2718288
>>2718286
>He doesnt hike minimum 20 miles a day

How do you live

>>2691355
Is there ANYTHING good about the place? Im moving there next year I need a silver lining bros..........

I cant wait to rock up to Seattle with no job lined up and just take a steamy liquid shit on all these nose-upturned dork faggots chirping about muh cost of living when they think the baseline is having a car, health insurance, an apartment in a “safe” area, and all this other safe and sound pencil neck bullshit to exist comfortably in the US. Can’t fucking wait.
>muh rain
Cool, I’ll read the man without qualities during the ambient patter of rain you spiritual impoverished fucking losers.

Suck my fuckin dick

>>2684173
sure, amazing /out/, amongst the best in the world, and more than enough jobs even in more rural areas like the Olympic peninsula

>>2718288
??? What's wrong with enjoying nice scenery lmao. Sorry you want to be surrounded by concrete and cockroaches

>>2719184
There are few blacks, 100x more woke blue haired transbians.

>>2685150
>Astoria
AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE

I lived there when I was stationed in the Coast Guard and that place is fucking miserable.

>>2685669
You look like a disgusting human who wears a chain and thinks sports shoes make him look stylish

>>2720836
But that’s where uneducated economist lives bro fym

YOU GUYS LET ME KNOW

Seattlebros give it to me straight. Can I make it in Seattle just using public transportation?

>>2719188
>while walking to work with a smug smile on your face because your living your starving hipster poet lifestyle dream in le hecking big city, you turn your ankle, lose your job, and end up on the street getting fucked up the ass by blue wig wearing AIDs infested hobo niggers for your Fent fix
many such cases, sad!

>>2684173
i'd say so, yes

>>2685096
spokane is full of tweakers and disgusting rednecks. i genuinely hate the people in that town more than anywhere else i've ever been. missoula is much better vibe wise- especially if you want outdoor activities.

>>2703855
>grrr!!! i hate earth day!!! fuck the planet!!!

Sounds beautiful there!

>>2720892
>Seattlebros give it to me straight. Can I make it in Seattle just using public transportation?
yes, if your routine is designed around it. consider adding in a bicycle (rental) as well

>>2684248
I love the cloudy and cold but hate the PNW for this exact subculture. The Seattle freeze is real. People my age (older millennial) It's a bunch of anti-social douchebag le reddit types. I went back to the midwest after a couple years. Miss the environment, hate the people.

>>2723340
>>2723398
Landing there on the 16th

>>2723409
What spurred your decision to leave Thailand so quickly?

>>2723413
He's too poor because he didn't work enough over the years so wagie needs to return to the cagie.

>>2723481
He said he had $20k.

>>2723493
20k isn't a lot of money bucko. Wasn't that also his inheritance amount he blew on pattaya whores? He wouldn't last a year with that. Too poor lmao.

>>2723413
Because when you spend the money you actually worked for it bites a little harder

>>2723501
It’s enough for a year literally anywhere in the world if you’re not a fucking retard and frugal

>>2723542
>drown in alcohol
>paypig for Thai whores
>frugal
Ummm sweety????

>>2723576
Yea I’m frugal when I’m in the US you dumb ape. Gotta have vices to get me through the vicissitudes of life

>>2723576
>>2723583

>>drown in alcohol
>>paypig for Thai whores
>>frugal
You can do both of those to a lesser extent, i.e. not "drowning", for like $1k a month. Why you would choose to return to the wagie grind so quickly is strange.

The caged rat yearns for the comforts of the wheel, the sawdust bed, and the suckling bottle, but the wild rat truly lives.

>>2723591
Check back in with me when your bodycount is just shy of 250 lmao and you’re almost 35.

>>2723591
Why do the wagie grind for more than 10 years? That's enough to be rich in America

>>2723596
Another month or two of frugal vacation is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Realistically, you will have to wage for decades.

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>>2685329
>The white people? Anxious, gay, timid, gay, passive aggressive, and pretty fucking gay.

You would too... if your wife is like this.

>>2723409
Bro decided to move to shitty, rainy Seattle instead of sunny San Diego where you can hop across the border and bang thick booty whore for the same price as Thailand. Makes no sense...

>>2723866
No one with a brain wants to buy diseased whores or go anywhere they or their customers frequent

>>2723866
>dude just move to the most expensive city in California with no car and no high paying job! What are you stupid?!

>>2723895
>"Seattle is generally more expensive than San Diego, with a cost of living that's about 3% higher"

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>>2723613
I wonda whats French Canadian for I grew up without a mudda?

I am in Seattle bros. Got an indigo soft hoodie from Nordstrom rack, jeet activated my metroPCS sim, Airbnb paid, qt Korean served me coffee, we are fucking rolling

There are a few anons here considering moves to the west coast

I was considering san diego or seattle(a few people ITT were so dont bother trying to pinpoint us)

decided on grand junction colorado and holy fuck im having a great fucking time here its awesome

>>2724619
I'm glad you're happy anon. How are you enjoying it?

>>2724623
>no delirious traffic noise 24/7
>calm, peaceful
>can walk 20 minutes into canyon/wilderness/river complex
>went an ENTIRE day without seeing a black person
>lots of small businesses
>I can zipline to downtown

It's my first day but I am so fucking impressed

>>2724532
>I on the other hand have over a decade of practical but not professional experience of troubleshooting all of the usual basic shit, data recovery off of conventional hard disks that had seized or failed, install and setup of home broadband and DSL connections with their wireless APs, with both stock and custom firmwares, PC builds and maintenance, Windows ADS setup and administration for remote hosts, local and remote Linux and BSD hosts configured for live web services, proxy and caching services on Linux hosts for customer facing services in the front end, and local and remote caching proxies for sqlserv and mongodb and postgresql databases in the backend on both Windows and Linux hosts with a solid understanding of the basic underpinnings of the ntfs, ext4 filesystems with relation to write and access performance and patterns on physical and virtual local and remote hosts, experience with configuration and management of popular container orchestration tools and toolchain development stacks for writing and testing native applications on both Windows and Linux, also wanting to learn BSD(M), with comfortable working knowledge of bash, powershell, and git.
>Even with those skills, I think you'd have to suffer through low level corporate helpdesk for a few years to understand the IT grift. When I say heldesk I mean fielding tickets that range from 'help I need my lenovo password reset' or 'we plugged these 3 new computers in and they can't reach the internet' or 'our paging system has a bug in its latest firmware' to 'we need to add a global NAT rule to the new firewall array in our DMZ to allow it to BGP peer with a newly acquired company's network' or '11 out of our 50-odd domain controllers are not replicating properly after working fine for the last 6 months'. Assuming you've learned something after all of those hundreds of tickets you have a chance at being employable at a living wage.
This is what you'll have to suffer through to get a WFH IT job

>>2724629
>can walk 20 minutes into canyon/wilderness/river complex
Which canyon? Been to GJ many times and it's pretty far walking from town to any canyons.

>>2724634
Alright I'm in Orchard Mesa, like 50 feet from Grand Junction. I can zipline over the Colorado river into downtown Grand Junction after a 5 minute walk from my house.

It sits between the Colorado River and the Gunnison River, there are cliffs and bluffs and buttes and canyons all through this area. I walk 20 minutes south and I'm into it all.

>>2724633
Didn't read after the 3rd word

I have a WFH job with no college degree and it is data analytics with no phone or video nonsense

>>2724532
K keep us posted

>>2724532
this nigga spent $3500 before he felt he could make an anon post on 4chan

>>2724633
i can't even believe how dorks go through this shit. if a dork put a popgun to my head and said "you WILL learn all this confabulated catshit dorkenese or ill BLAM you!" i would face him and say "right between the eyes you fucking dork"

i can't fucking stand this world, and now im literally in dorker central

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>>2725204
Might as well put in apps to all those companies for entry level positions. Grift your way in and get motivated to learn by hands on experience and money.

You're Harrison Ford in the lobby of Tyrell Corp right now. You're in the Mt. Doom of dorkers. Try your hand at becoming one of them

>>2725301
I gotta just get a job and then get my own place first, then I can look into that. Im really not trying to get filtered by this city.

It’s oddly comfy tho. I wouldn’t mind living here

How do you anons feel about gig harbor? Planning to move thereabouts and work there or Tacoma in about 9 months

>>2726094
i just feel angry that there's people that have jobs. i came to seattle with no job lined, savings, and im staying in an airbnb which is big old house with extremely creaky wooden floors and you can fucking hear every mother fucking little noise in the house. I have to do interviews and anyone in the fucking house will be able to listen. i can hear when my "roommate" across the hall coughs quietly. every single fucking movement anywhere in the house can be heard from anywhere else in the house.

part of my daily routine is to stretch my whole body before i leave the house if im gonna be walking around and stuff and the entire fucking process of me doing that has me in full cringe mode because every time i spread myself out on the floor its
>FUCKING CREAK
>GROAN
>CREAK
CREAKITY FUCKING CREAK

and i know every mother fucker in the house can hear it. when i have to do my virtual fucking interview i know im actually gonna have zero privacy because every fucking occupant of the house will be able to listen in and im gonna be interviewing to be a fucking security guard so they're gonna know im some fucking straggling loser who washed up on their shoreline (see what i did there? *wink wink)

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>>2726140
>leaving Thailand for this
>when you can apply and interview for jobs online and line up a start date

>>2726167
Literally what I'm doing since I got laid off.
I'm not leaving Thailand until I have a solid fucking offer.
>Living in Seattle without money
>Living in a creaky fucking house with freaks
Pfffffff couldn't be me lmao

>>2724633
If you want to scare away actual aspiring IT fags instead of normies, you're going to find a better pasta. This one reads like a painstakingly HRified and slangified CV of some jeet from your local PC repair sweatshop desu.
>I know how to assemble a compooper and configure wifi
>why am I not a director at Google yet the fucking IT joos

>>2726167
>>2726217
yea sorry doesnt fucking work like that when you dont work remotely sorry HAHA OOPS SORRY

>>2684173
I'd like to cordially let my Seattle anons know that, after only 9 days since my arrival here, on a cold, foggy Oct 16th night. I've already found myself a comfy security gig in Bellevue. Once I get into the swing of things, I'll be trying to get an apartment in capital hill.

I bid you all good tidings
Dearly yours,
SSS (Surreptitious Seattle Savant)

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>>2684334
>>2684790
No way you losers typed this shit

>>2727355
Oh i did anon, and seattle offers the perfect backdrop to do exactly that. go loiter at pike place market you fuckin dweeb. take a break from pickleball LOL

Greetings from western colorado

I am like you but sunny and happy and not full of people

>>2727553
Summers are brutal there. Hot and dry as a bone. Winters are frigid and windy. It's a land for Mexicans and Injuns, the PNW is the white man's home.

>>2727554
I lived on Eugene. The winter sucked dick.

Grand Junction has a babby tier winter and the summer is nothing. It's at en elevation sweet spot. Dry heat isn't shit until over 100. I grew up in the south, lived in the PNW, I know garbage ass weather and I am DEFINITELY in some sort of weather Goldilocks zone in grand junction. I will have more sunny 70 degree hours outside than practically anywhere else in the USA besides Cali.

>>2727555
>>2727554
Comparatively I lived in denver last year and the winter was a joke, I am from the south and expectee a crazy bad winter but turns out the snow melts in dry climates after just one day and its always sunny and so the entire winter I could ride my bike almost every fucking day

Dry climates are really nice

>>2727555
I was memeing in that post but I sort of stand by it. I lived in that area for three years and while it's better than the south or far northern midwest/northeast, I still think it's a pretty mid climate if you like to be outside a lot.

Winter is mild, but it's still winter. The vast swathes of open land around town turn into a giant mud pit. You might be ok on hiking trails, but I preferred to walk around in the desert. Summers are pretty miserable, the average high everyday is like 95 and the sun just beats down on you. There was a two week stretch when I was there where the highs were above 105 everyday for like two weeks straight, and it peaked at 115.I don't think climate change will be kind to that area in the long run. You can at least go to higher elevations nearby though.

Spring is nice, but nights are cold and the weather and temps can be really variable. And it's short. Autumn is glorious, but the stretch of perfect 70-ish degree days between late summer and the beginning of winter can also be pretty short, and all the vanlife fags come flocking to the area around then, so you have to avoid them.

I think the PNW west of the mountains has a way longer stretch of good weather, but the winters are shit. But personally, I'd rather have that than have the stretch of good weather broken into chunks.

>>2727563
I am actually dumbfounded by my access to wilderness from grand junction and I am a person that has walked/biked into wilderness from towns for my entire life.

Eugene is a good town for that, but Grand Junction it can be so quick. Wow.

I prefer between 40-70 degrees and this area will do that more than practically anywhere else. 95 in the desert is not easily distinguished from 75 in the desert. 75 and 80 in the humid south is a super sucky difference.

It does also get cold at night, so unlike the south you can choose your climate by changing your schedule which is a really cool option.

In eugene the pollen was so bad that my eyes bled and I went days without sleep because it was so hard to breathe, but PNE is my forest type preference. Colorado comes shockingly close despite the lack of rain.

>>2727564
PNW*

>>2727555
>>2727563
On my winter in Eugene, it was actually 3 winters

All of them gay, I am the type of person that can be naked in rainy 40 degree weather for an indefinite period of time and I thought it was gay.

20 degree mornings that warm up to 50 degree days are much nicer than 35 degree mornings that become 35 degree days. Turns out I fucking love the sun.

Ok it’s time to stop fucking comparing other states this is a Washington state thread THANKS we will now be moving back to conversation ONLY involving Washington state. Thanks

>>2727571
Washington threads are at the end of the day just job threads, that's the truth. People with poor prospects consider Washington because the jobs out there pay way fucking more than anywhere else.

So they try to convince themselves that they can cope with really shitty people and constant rain and no sun by fixating on the "trees" but it's kind of a weak cope.

Mentioning other states helps flesh this out. Washington's real appeal is the job market. Simple as that. You will get your socks knocked off by the beauty of America in many places, but only Seattle will pay you $25 an hour to flip burgers.

>>2727577
>Flesh it out
Yea by further delving into the “secrets” and “wonders” of WA not that “loser” state further east. Make your own thread chud

>>2727580
You and I both know this thread was a thread of desperate midwest anons trying to find a place to survive

>>2727586
I’m not desperate, just clever and cunning. I plan to run a serious of threads under the pseudonym “savant of Seattle”.

>>2727586
The thing is tho the eternal dreariness and cloudiness makes me feel like I’m in the last of us or silent hill. It’s comfy in a way. Like otherworldly

>>2727596
>>2727592
both of these are totally nonsense people you wouldn't want to deal with IRL

aka, inhabitants of Seattle

>>2727604
what if i told you that it was me samefagging? :D

yesterday i gave a cigarette to a dude that just got out of jail while i was waiting at the stadium train stop. he looked like a liberal basedboy (including the black rimmed square glasses) except he had a beanie with long grey hair, full face tatsand black airforces. very interesting what jail does to people.

>>2727615
>smoker
>public transit user
>people you wouldn't want to deal with IRL

>>2727604 was 100% correct in his assessment

>>2684175
>but there is something wrong with the region that gets to people
it's the people. All the mega whores and special snowflakes end up as far west as possible to get away from mommy and daddy in the midwest and east. They're finally off the leash and so depressed to be responsible straight edge adults (on daddy's bi-monthly direct deposit ofcourse). This depression means they need to indulge in every flavor of degeneracy and by their 30s they're what you see on the streets of pnw metros

>>2684173
born and raised in sw wa. left last year due to the drugs, crime, politics, cost of living and weather.
my advice is to visit in the summer and leave before the rains start. once the rains start the mood just goes to shit and its no longer enjoyable
>inb4 some rainlet says "but i like the rain"
NOBODY likes the rain when its all you see for 8 months

>>2727815
im a depressed loser schizoid so i actually like it here.

>>2727564
>>2727567
Fair enough, it's mostly personal preference anyways. Personally, I moved back to New England after spending years out west. The summers are good, it's usually never too hot or humid. Winter have been mild the past few years, but they still suck, even compared to the PNW. More sunlight though.

How do you feel about eastern Washington's climate? Seems similar to GJ, but more northerly so it should be a bit cooler. the mountains block off all the cloudy weather, I heard.

>>2727831
Eastern WA/OR is desolate nonsense, makes me want to cry it's so bad but not as bad as the martian landscape of Wyoming, Nebraska was a relief for me when I finally got there

From grand junction I can ride my bike for an hour or two and be into the mountains where the summers are cool, 100ish miles to moab, 100ish miles to aspen, I ride my bicycle every where every day, the four corners region of USA exceeds my imagination by many orders of magnitude I really don't deserve to be this happy every day but I am

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>>2727842
>Eastern WA/OR is desolate nonsense

City retarded detected. Its a paradise for an outdoorsman. There's millions of acres like this a short drive in any direction

>>2727860
>city retard

I grew up in Appalachia, eastern OR/WA is some of the worst land in all of America outside of Texas.

You're a turbo dumb fuck for wanting an 8 hour drive through flat nothing for something that other people only have to drive an hour for.

>>2727831
>>2727842
>>2727860
>>2727865
make a mother fucking thread talking about the "nowhere" places you live. this is a WASHINGTON STATE THREAD thanks pal. move along.

>>2727866
We were talking about eastern washington here actually

You butthurt little faggot your state is cool because of a shade of green literally people are taking their entire lives and fixating on the shade of color of the trees and psychologically balancing out the rest of their fucking lives with just that

its silly

I genuinely preferred driving through Kansas and Nebraska over Eastern OR/WA, holy fucking shit was I bored as FUCK. Hell, I even prefer driving through Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Ohio over fucking eastern OR/WA. Okay Illinois is a stretch. Illinois is really crap.

Not as bad as I-80 in Wyoming though. Nothing is more boring than that.

>>2727865
Lmao 8 hours gets you to the coast or salt Lake city or Las Vegas. Just admit you are a cityfag retard who never left I-84 and now think you are an expert

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>>2727842
>>2727842
Yeah, a lot of it is boring but it's not really a fair comparison, GJ is kind of in the heart of a particularly scenic area. Western Colorado/Eastern Utah also have a lot of boring, flat sagebrush type land. Eastern WA doesn't look too bad. But the further east you go, the boringness increases exponentially. The weather is probably better, but you can't really beat living in a region with like 6 national parks in a couple hours drive.

https://beautifulwashington.com/eastern-washington.html

>>2727869
Disagree, I drove from Portland to Denver and the sights in Wyoming were truly beautiful. Lack of people does not mean It's boring, there's some amazing sights in the area.

>>2727873
All I did was drive from eugene to pendleton and it was one of the worst drives of my entire life

I will shit on this entire area for the rest of my life. I grew up in appalachia, I already have plently of worthless trashy white people in my life I want NOTHING to do with spokane, I promise, YOU CAN KEEP IT.

>>2727877
I think people that live in bad places are dumb people.

>>2727879
Specifically just I-80 in Wyoming headed to Nebraska, this was the worst drive of my life, by A LOT, and I have been forced to drive through southern illinois many times.

>>2727881
Lmao not enough abandoned smokestacks in Oregon for the cityboi to feel comfortable

>>2727881
>>2727877
one big thing for me is I am an autistic retard and ride my bicycle everywhere

and so an hour of flatness in a car might be negligible for you, but for me, this is pure garbage. and its also basically just like 20 miles too probably

in western colorado I do not get trolled by this much flatness, there is always something cool, in much of the west I sure as shit would be, especially eastern WA

obviously if you are driving 80 mph this bothers you much less

>>2727885
You would cry if you saw the 3rd world country that I grew up in. Eastern WA is a joke compared to Appalachia. You are the city boy.

As I grew up, because I am intelligent, I developed standards.

>>2727888
So you moved to Seattle to be a wagie security guard for yuppie megacorps? LOL. I live in rural bliss surrounded by mountains and forests. You live in heroin needlestack, human shit on your shoe hell. WILLINGLY. You are retarded my man.

>>2727891
No, you have me confused with another anon. I am grand junction anon. I could not be fucking happier.

>>2727892
>>2727891
I was considering Seattle when I did not yet have a clear path in life

Luckily Grand Junction saved me

Washington is purely a job market move, people move to Washington for the job market and cope by fixating on the nature because all other things about it are really lame.

>>2727892
Well the shitty thing about Grand Junction is that all the viable women are wifed up by age 23. So you will be dealing with a dating pool of single moms and borderline obese former tweakers, in a town of 70,000. If 4-wheeling and shootin' aren't part of your wheelhouse of hobbies, you're fucked socially. You're probably more suited to Moab, but it's crazy expensive.

>>2727895
I have a different feel about the town. ALL of the women are very friendly. Super cool. I could pick up any chick here, it's nice.

The men of Grand Junction are fighters, for sure, I get that vibe. That's cool. I enjoy that too.

Luckily I am not experiencing your mental problems and so I am having a fucking really great time.

Definitely, Grand Junction is "American" in that you have white trash as far as the eye can see here, but in other parts of America the white trash is rude and crazy and they seem fine here so far.

>>2727896
>>2727895
Also, nah for Moab. I actually prefer dense and tall trees over desert. Grand Junction allows me to access all of it.

>>2727896
>I could pick up any chick here, it's nice.
Sure you can.

I'm speaking truth. It's a small town and very conservative, the pickings are slim if you're interested in actually dating.

>>2727902
Bro you are speaking from a different point of view, I am from eastern kentucky. What I am seeing here is like winning the chick lottery.

>>2684175
This.

I'm still stationed here until I'm out in another year or so but goddamn. Everyone loves in hoodies, looks like death, acts autistic and loves at the bar if they're lucky, out of the gas station if they're average.

I went to Hawaii for a while for work and man the switch was night and day, literally. Sex drive came back, swimming, hiking, lifting every day, happiness on tap, vitality in torrents. Beauty, pure beauty human and inhuman, everywhere you look.

I'm back in WA and there's just this... psychic miasma of apathetic despair hanging over everything and exuding from everyone.

>>2723398
Man, the cliquish SSRI weirdos in our age group when you start hanging out in Seattle is jarring. There's like a creepy status people have about it. It's not that bad with zoomers at in Belltown or Cap Hill but anyone over like 28 is a basedfaced redditor that feels like walking on eggshells to be around.

>>2727904
It depends on how old you are. If you're under 25, you might do ok since it's a college town. Either way, actually integrating socially will be tough if you're an outsider.

>>2727897
The benefit of Moab is that even if the town is way, way smaller, there's lots of people with interests relevant to yours, and they all tend to work in the same band of employment opportunities. It also has forested mountains close by.

It's also a transient place where people live a few years and then leave. But you have a higher chance of meeting people, I think.

>>2727915
Nah, 30s and never been treated so well by women in my life

>>2727919
Nah I do everything solo Moab would be fucking hell for me I want to be the only fucker around

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>>2727896
Yep, Junction got that straight shooter mentality. Pretty high suicide rate, needy little pussies tend to cull themselves from the herd. With the accelerating social decay on the Democrat-ridden Front Range, it's definitely becoming a more desirable place by comparison. If you're one of those hipster faggots who cry about "muh art" and "muh culture", then you'll hate being so far away from a big city.
>>2727897
Grand Mesa mogs. Amazing how you can go from Minnesota lakes and forests on top to Death Valley-tier alkali desolation in about ten miles.