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Do you live in the Caribbean? Wish to visit the Caribbean? Post about the region itt
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Hard pass
Too many negroes and ripoffs all across the entire region
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>>2711348
I wish there were more White Caribbeans, sadly most of them fucked off back to their mainlands after WW2
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Are the US Virgin Islands worthwhile? If so, how the hell do I get there? Momondo isn’t showing any flights to St Thomas this winter, which is odd.
Snorkeling is my only priority. I work remote in a gub’ment job so I can’t leave the country, but usvi/PR are fair game of I want to stay somewhere warm indefinitely.
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>>2711175
i wouldn't want to live there
hurricanes rip things apart and islands don't get much supplies compared to mainland. wonder what remote work is like out there...
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>>2711175
How about Puerto Rico? They're a us territory which means we don't need passports. What is life like there?
I know there's corruption and gang violence but isn't that the case in every us state these days?
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>>2711397
It's kind of backwater. The people are nice but poor. Plus the weather is tropical
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>>2712859
>poor
Puerto Rico is the most affluent territory in the entirety of Latin America. Hotel prices are basically the same as the continental US. My sister rented a car and an airbnb when she visited with her friends.
>>2711397
Entire cities like Caguas have zero hotels. P.R. is not a place to be a poorfag traveler. Dominican Republic is also expensive and heavily visited, but you can find some cheaper options there.
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>>2712891
*Compared to Mainland USA
There you happy now? You goddamn nerd
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>>2712891
Puerto Rico if it were a US state would be the poorest state in the country well behind Mississippi. If it were an independent country, it would be the wealthiest country in latin america.
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>>2711363
Is there any place that has a sizeable minority left?
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>>2713002
Depends on what you consider to be "white"
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>>2711397
https://youtu.be/RjWf5GiEypo?si=WCNhOBsy1uQEdQfE
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>>2715306
unf
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>>2712964
>If it were an independent country, it would be the wealthiest country in latin america.
Except for the obvious fact that Puerto Rico’s relative wealth is dependent on its subjugated status to the USA—the Puerto Rican economy is driven almost entirely by the ability to offer artificially cheap opportunities for manufacturers, thanks to corporate tax benefits and suppressed labor costs. It’s a fundamentally extractive model, basically a 21st-century plantation economy, that the country could never afford to maintain as a small independent island nation.

That aside, I really enjoy Puerto Rico, particularly the small off-islands off the east coast. My boomer parents retired to Vieques for several years, which is my favorite Caribbean island by a lot. It’s at least a bit of a shithole in a lot of ways (Culebra is objectively more beautiful by nearly any standard), but it’s one of very few places in the whole Caribbean that don’t feel dominated by tourism at all. It feels more than anything like a sleepy local village/small town, extremely relaxed, arguably a bit boring, awash in semi-feral horses, with no big resorts (just a couple of expensive small boutique hotels), and a bunch of practically empty beaches. There’s a small community of weird gringo drifters from the US mainland too, of course, and some expensive vacation homes owned by bourgeois Puerto Ricans from San Juan, but it has remained distinctly backwoodsy in all the years I’ve visited.
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>>2711175
I avoid the Caribbean simply because it's waaaay too black.
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>>2716049
Gotta go back to Vieques. I wonder how it's doing after the hurricane. I think the only hospital in the island got wrecked to shit and it might not even be functioning right now. I haven't been following developments closely, so it might be fixed now though.
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>>2713002
>>2713885
I don't consider latinos/hispanics to be White, but based on demographics, the Dominican Republic has the highest "White" population. The Dutch islands are majority European born. Other than that, it's 90%+ black
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>>2716055
>the Dominican Republic has the highest "White" population
That's just incorrect. DR is known for being super black.
They might register themselves as *white* in the census, but Caribbean people tend to register as white when given the chance. Same thing happens in other caribbean census.
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>>2716051
Sadly true.
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>>2716052
> I wonder how it's doing after the hurricane. I think the only hospital in the island got wrecked to shit and it might not even be functioning right now. I haven't been following developments closely, so it might be fixed now though.

I’m guessing you’re talking about Hurricane Maria, back in 2017? I haven’t heard about any more recent storms that were anywhere near as destructive. Anyway, if so, yes, that storm fucked the island (and mainland PR) up horrifically, and there are still infrastructural scars visible and long-term reconstruction projects underway—rebuilding the hospital was delayed by almost three years, but they’re actually building now, and they currently claim it’ll be reopening in stages next year, and finished before the end of 2025. We shall see. Whenever it’s up and running it’s going to be a huge upgrade from the old health center. Meanwhile, an old geezer friend of my parents who lives on Vieques full-time had to get helicoptered to some hospital in mainland PR last year after a car crash, so it’s still probably not a good place to enjoy a medical emergency.

But basic power, water, and road infrastructure was already well patched up by the time I was there in late 2018. So tourism is definitely no problem, and they can use the money.
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>>2713002
yeah the dutch caribbean
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What are the Cayman Islands like?
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>>2716077
Yeah sure, but what about the next time it gets hit by a Hurricane? This shit will keep happening
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>>2716055
>The Dutch islands are majority European born
That's bullshit, for Aruba at least. It's like 70% Aruban (kind of comparable to Brazilians, except they're mixed Dutch, Indigenous Aruban, and black in varying quantity), 10% black, 10% Venezuelan/Colombians who loved it too much to stay back in South America, ~8% whites (mostly Dutch and a few American/Canadian expats), and ~2% Chinese (who run all the supermarkets somehow!)

This took a lot of digging through carefully cultivated Carnival shots and pictures of tourists, but this is what the average "mixed" Aruban looks like. I'd say they're generally at least plurality indigenous Aruban

Never been to Curacao or Bonaire, but in Aruba they all say Curacao has a larger black population because they were a large slave trading center before the 19th century
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>>2716307
*60% Aruban
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>>2716051
Kek what a bitch, get out of that bubble.
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>>2716058
Dominican here, we are mixed bag literally most people here are mulatto with a wide variety of phenotypes, but ultimately the large waves of haitian migrants have been changing our demographics, i am really hoping for our goverment to deport the whole of them not only are they destroying our mulatto identity and culture, but also bring a lot of poverty and backwardness that drags the country down.
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>>2716051
We have to take it back
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I live in Miami so technically no but I may as well.

No one here speaks English, the weather is all over the place, and it for sure feels like a 3rd world country sometimes with the chickens running around.

Corruption everywhere you look and no one has a driver's license too.
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>>2716138
comfy, quiet
expensive - there is a trick to it tho, what atmosphere do you want, some of the big name brand hotels are the most busy packed patches of beach, when a condo for rent just 2 doors down is only a dozen guests on the beach
would recommend if budget fits and you aren't looking for hustle and bustle
world class scuba diving
i haven't heard much about nightlife apart from "industry night" where all the visiting waiters get drunk
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>>2716138
only been to grand cayman, near 7mile beach it is like a gentrified miami suburb without the bathsalts and cocaine. there are less developed areas in the east end, but still everything is drivable in a day
apart from walking down unlit village roads at night i'd feel pretty comfortable going anywhere


never been to little cayman or cayman brac, probably an easy connecting flight from grand cayman of 30mins. these i dont think have anything going on except beach activites and quiet old houses.
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>>2716317
mulatto es negro. sorry to break it to you papi
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>>2716355
Mother nature sure is trying with the hurricanes. Yes, I agree. The Caribbean needs to be majority White again
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>>2716317
I disagree with the other guy, if it looks white, it is white
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>>2716240
>Yeah sure, but what about the next time it gets hit by a Hurricane? This shit will keep happening.

Well, such is the Caribbean. Hurricanes gonna hurricane. In the case of Vieques and Puerto Rico, while it’s easy to be cynical, post-Maria reconstruction and the many millions of FEMA dollars dedicated to it, are taking improving durability quite seriously. New stuff being built is being specifically designed to be harder to destroy than the old stuff, along with providing better backup/emergency power systems and better storm shelter facilities. Is it all going to work? Probably not. Is some of the money going to be siphoned off by crooks? Unquestionably. Is it all going to take longer and cost more than forecast? Already has. What infrastructure project doesn’t? But it’s not all bullshit, and at least some real improvements are underway.

Meanwhile, maybe avoid visiting during hurricane season, or in the immediate wake of the next big storm.
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>>2716432
The lion doesn't concern with the opinion of the sheep... we are who we are no matter what other people think or say for the matter.
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>>2711348
Carribean blacks are nicer than American/African blacks. They love white people because they find their tourist economies.
>>2711175
I just visited the DR. It’s great, Dominicans are cool and mostly helpful though there are scammers. It’s perfectly safe if you use an iota of common sense.
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>>2711397
Puerto Rico is depressing outside of San Juan and the beach towns. The island truly got fucked hard by Maria and a lot of small towns inland are abandoned. It’s not extremely poor but you do need to be careful about sketchy people who are looking to scam the stupid gringo.
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>>2716654
More importantly what are you guys going to do about the Haitians? They are right there living in a failed state and soon they'll cross over your borders and bring their niggatry with them
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>>2716684
They already have a wall and the army shoots people if they try to cross. It’s not like the US where border patrol is totally cucked.
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>>2716687
Wow who could have guessed a wall and hard border would solve illegal immigration?
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not caribbean, but bermuda i remember being comfy
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>>2716684
>and soon they'll cross over your borders and bring their niggatry with them
They have done so, we already have more than 2 million haitians living here and that number only keeps growing, that's way many people who have come here as visitors get the impresion that we are the same as Haitian, because they met those haitians that live here and think every dominican is like them.

Deportations have increased and the border is patrolled by the military, but sincerely is just not enough, brivery is still too common among the border patrols and our soldiers are a joke that are very afraid to shoot and make our boundaries to be respected.

https://youtu.be/58aoBim5iL8?si=oQKJAeBBVIow9Zbk
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>>2716732
I think Bermuda counts
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>>2716765
Damn, good luck to you mate. Can't really think of a way to combat corruption, higher wages?
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>>2711175
I always wanted to sail the Caribbean, take the winds from islands to islands
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>>2717219
It's a dream of mine as well
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What islands have the best nude beaches?
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>>2718744
Dutch islands
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>>2711175
>Do you live in the Caribbean?
no
>Wish to visit the Caribbean?
no
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Colombia's Caribbean coast is culturally Caribbean. It was tough to get used to after coming from the Andean highlands, where the climate is cool and people are formally polite when doing business, treating me like any other customer. Then I end up in Cartagena, with its tropical heat and informal mannerisms often bordering on impudence. It makes me angry when random people demand that I stop in my tracks and pay attention to them everywhere I go in public. Then they get all pissy when I respond to their aggression and insolence with dismissive disdain. Additionally, the Caribbean culture has poor work ethic, so they charge tourists inflated prices in order to minimize the amount of work necessary to live. No, they won't bargain down the price, because they'd rather make fewer sales with a high profit margin than make many sales at a fair price. Again, very different from the highland culture of Colombia, where long workdays were the norm, everyone appreciates your patronage, and I never got charged a tourist price for speaking poor Spanish.
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>>2711175
Am thinking about going to Curacao this Jan, any other islands I should try hopping around?

Ideally need good internet in the airbnbs to work from home, be fine with transportation without a car, and be close to a gym that has squat racks and barbells
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>>2720083
Aren't most costal areas in the region Caribbean like?
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>>2711175
Sint Maarten / Saint-Martin and the Dutch ABC islands were nice. Maybe just because I can dream about moving there as a European.
From all the places I visited between Mexico and Colombia, Belize was the biggest shithole.
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>>2716311
Nigger lover
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>>2716317
>mulatto
>culture
KEK
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Sounds amazing!
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>>2721293
Do it, cheaper, cleaner, and of course with more beautiful nature
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>>2721148
> Aren't most costal areas in the region Caribbean like?
Yes, coastal areas in northern South America and many parts of eastern Central America are culturally pretty similar to the Caribbean islands. The Guyanas, or Bluefields, Nicaragua, among other spots, are more like Antigua and Barbuda than they are like Managua or Bogotá. The remaining Garifuna bits of Central America as well, although I don’t have personal experience.
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>>2711363
>wish there were more White Caribbeans, sadly most of them fucked off back to their mainlands after WW2

I think you have that backwards.

For example, Jamaica
>The White population would dramatically decrease during the 1800s, making up only 4% of the population at a peak.[8]

I would imagine that's when the slave revolts happened which caused the white people to bail.

Are you thinking about the Windrush generation after WW2 (between 1948 and 1971) when a several hundred thousand of blacks from the Caribbean went to the UK, drawn by all the jobs and work needed to help rebuild the country after the devastation of WW2?
>>2711363
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>>2711175
Post negras.
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>>2724857
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Are there any countries in the Caribbean without blacks? It's not that I'm racist I just get disgusted when Ï see them. Anyone else feel that way seeing a picture of food with a black hand? Gross
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>>2724926
Racist.
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Just saw on headlines
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>>2711175
caribbean is lit, the blacks arent the same there. they serve you drinks and weed for free in stores you go in, you can browse the mall with liquor in your hand. everything is cheap and pretty clean actually just old. i like the caribbean, it is a lawless relaxed place. jamaica sucks though, feels like colonized africa
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>>2711175
Was thinking about a stint in Antigua since it has the largest white population but it seems to be expensive.

I guess it's natural that nigger population and prices are inversely proportional. I also don't really want to have to rent a car to get the best experience sounds annoying and expensive. Maybe the Dutch islands have a bicycle culture like the Netherlands?

Fuck I just want to chill on a walkable Caribbean island without too much nigger shit, good internet so I can work, a good gym, and not crazy tourist prices

Also don't want go to the places that fat american midwestern alcoholics stink up either so I guess hotel resort shit is out. Does anywhere here fit my bill???
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Going to the Bahamas for the first time this week bros. What am I in for?
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>>2725914
Blacks, biting insects, high prices, AIDs and diareaah
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>>2724926
Every Caribbean country is mixed. There are places where people are “less” black but none with no blacks. Try Puerto Rico if you want the “least” black island
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>>2722709
Don't forget the women
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>>2726630
pass
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>>2724822
Stupid jeet. He’s right, a ton of white people left after WWII. That happened in Cuba as well.
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>>2726630
Only the middle is remotely passable, and even then she's tatted up
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>>2726655
sad
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>>2726630
Imagine the stench
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