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Old thread: >>2701761
Discuss everything related to travel in Thailand here.
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Strolling around Lumphini Park during a festival of some kind...one of the tents had a vendor couple making egg pies, they sold me ten of them for 100 baht, delectably flaky and hot off the grill. It's so tough to avoid overeating in Thailand...
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Other Thailand travelers, how important is it to you to be judged positively by Thais?
For me it took a few days of blundering around on the outskirts of Bangkok to figure out Thai etiquette for interactions with strangers. The following days quickly made Thais my favorite people to be around. Take the personality traits of aloofness, facial impassivity and disdain for small talk. Thais see these behaviors as a sign of mature respectability. Careful observance of social boundaries is key to being respected in Thailand. Thais are fine with me being my authentic self, so I return the favor. Thai aloofness doesn't bother me one bit, as long as the proprieties of doing business are followed - and they nearly always are.
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>>2711726
It's impossible. Don't concern yourself with thai etiquette beyond day to day things. They will never consider you one of them, and more importantly they will never actually respect you.

The only thing you really shouldn't do is put your hands together for ka pun ka, that's a Buddhist thing and you aren't Buddhist. Farang hands together is maximum cringe and causes thais to internally recoil. It is not like bowing in Korea or Japan.
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>>2711726
I feel as though you have made this post about your schizoid personality matching with Thai etiquette several times now. How can you be sure their impassivity is not just them getting the transaction over with as little fuss as possible as opposed to some sort of respect for your aloofness?
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>>2711880
They also don't have disdain for small talk. Anytime some Thai does it with me, "where are you from", "it doesn't matter where I'm from." They look at me like I'm a mass murder. I still do it, because honey badger don't give a fuck. Much like >>2711861 I still put my hands together and bless them, because I'm more Buddhist then most of the Thais I've met.
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>>2711884
>I still put my hands together and bless them, because I'm more Buddhist then most of the Thais I've met
You're a dumb cringe faggot. Thais think so and other farang witnessing you do that shit think so. It's performative, not authentic.
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>>2711937
You'd be wise, not to test the limits, of my magic.
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>that borderline autistic, oblivious guy making awkward interactions with thais thinking he uncovered the supposed rulebook for talking with people.
Retard, they behave like that because of the language barrier. When I was with my girlfriend, the shop vendors would always make some small talk with her and then give her some extra or a discount because they were friendly.
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>>2711971
I'll destroy you in a wizard battle. I'm in sukhumvit right now. I'm going to Astral project and wait over terminal 21. Show up if you dare cunt.
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>>2712025
Tom Cruise, I tried to warn you of the darkness that was coming. Surely by now, you've noticed the bright ball that warms the world is up in the sky less and less. We of the Squirrel Federation predict with in a week's time, the sun will be up high as long the darkness. The leaves are fire red. Begging for light. Soon they will die and fall to the ground.
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>>2711726
Comfy photo and post
What camera shot this??
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>>2711870
10/10 post my friend
got me bricked up
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Is there a direct ferry to Koh Phangan from Bangkok (or a nearby port)? Or do you have to travel overland to Surat Thani and get the ferry from there?

And is the Half Moon Party, and the island generally, worth going out of my way to visit for just 3 days? I'm 31 and a solo traveller and i don't really care about beaches/islands and I wonder if I'm getting too old for this shit. On the other hand, I worry I might feel like I've missed out if I don't go to at least one of them. 3 days is probably all I can do without really messing up my itinerary though.
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>>2711861
It feels very rewarding to have my payment accepted with dignified respect and appreciation, no matter how small it is. Next time I come by, I will be immediately welcomed and shown to a seat.
>never consider you one of them
That's a big plus in my book. I feel no social anxiety in Thailand, as I don't need to ward off unwanted & intrusive social advances and then deal with the abrupt shift from friendliness to hostility that makes me fucking hate normies.
>>2712081
A potato, kek. My $28 ZTE phone. Definitely recommend it as a street phone if you are visiting shithole countries where robbery is common (not Thailand). It's slow AF and can only run one app at a time, but it does what a phone needs to do, and it's still going strong after an entire year.
>>2711884
Obviously you are spending time in some tourist ghetto where the locals have learned to ape Western mannerisms and speak a few English phrases in an effort to please foreigners. Their smiles are fake and hide their hatred of the assholes like (You) they have to deal with every day.
>>2711880
Some Thais are like that, they hate their job and it shows on their face. They often serve mediocre slop as well, so don't do business with them.
Impassivity does not mean that a person is incapable of showing appreciation for being served a delicious meal or for receiving a payment. It merely means that their emotional reaction threshold is higher than the average hyper-expressive white person.
BTW in Chiang Mai I noticed that Thai eatery operators make more of an effort to make potential customers feel welcome with a smile and greeting if they so much as stop on the sidewalk outside the entrance.
>>2712020
Congrats on having a hot gf, lol. Everyone likes chatting with a pretty girl.
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>>2712137
You have to go all the way down to Surat Thani to get the KPG. You can fly there, or fly to Koh Samui, then it's an easy 45 minute ferry to KPG.
But for you I would say, don't go. That's a lot of travel time to go to a party that's a parody of a parody of itself. It's an amazing place, but you will feel extremely old there - I went when I was 22, which was fine. Have been back since for extended stays and didn't even consider going to the full moon party again. If you dont care about beaches and islands and just want to go to the famous party, I think you're putting in a lot of effort and money for something that's pretty unremarkable. just tens of thousands of drunk tourists on a mile long beach. was kind of fun to watch all the girls dropping their pants and pissing in the sea, though
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>>2712245
NTA but how os the ferry this time of year? Hellish or most likely fine?
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>>2712137
>31
>full moon party
It's a bunch of college kids, so have fun with being casually discriminated against by "the most tolerate generation", if you were thinking of meeting people
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>>2712366
Is the right course of life to be simply led around by your base impulses like an animal?
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>>2712377
Well we are animals, so yeah. I already made a fortune and reproduced several times, so biological impetus out of the way, base impulses are all that's left.

This shit really isn't complicated. Once you break out of ideologies designed to keep peasant niggercattle in line, the sky is the limit.
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>>2712412
They knew you were coming and wanted you to feel welcome :)
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>>2712412
they heard you were coming
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>>2712245
>>2712275
Hmm yeah that's sort of what I thought, sounded like it'd just be a massive group of pissed up westerners who are mostly younger than me. Still fun if I'm already nearby, but probably not a bucket list experience that it's worth travelling out of my way for.

My current plan is to go north from Bangkok into Chiang Mai, and then follow a fairly typical backpacker route to eventually circle back to Bangkok (Luang Prabang, Vang Vieng, Hanoi, Hoi An, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh, Siem Reap). So at the moment I don't do the southern Thailand islands/beaches at all. I'm a bit conflicted, because I don't really care about islands/beaches (as a solo traveller I'd get pretty bored just doing nothing on a beach all day), but on the other hand I feel like should maybe go to one if they've literally got some of the best in the world in SEA. I don't suppose you know if there's any other beaches/islands I could work into my planned route either in Thailand or SEA, which are less out of the way but still worth visiting?
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>>2712504
What a gay ass meme route
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>>2712504
Phuket has cheap flights to/from Bangkok and Chiang Mai, about half the price of Samui flights last I checked. I spent a few weeks lazing about Patong and enjoyed it. There's a few smaller beaches nearby too, one even has elephants.
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>>2712379
>Muh impetus
Oh fuck off
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>>2712514
I only have 38 days and thought I'd stick to a standard route. I'm not a sex tourist coomer, I just want a handful of fun nights out in between seeing interesting nature, templates, etc. What route would you do instead?

>>2712518
I think I'd have max 3 days for a beach/island detour so I don't know if it'd be worth getting return flights somewhere, but I'll see if it can be worked into my plans at all, thanks
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>>2712379
>I already made a fortune
Go FUCK yourself
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>>2712604
>>2712774
Don't be mad faggots I'm almost 40, you hustle you will get there too.
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>>2712504
>I don't suppose you know if there's any other beaches/islands I could work into my planned route either in Thailand or SEA, which are less out of the way but still worth visiting?
Maybe Da Nang by Hoi An in Vietnam? It's convenient, but it's not really a destination like Thailand beaches.
>Vang Vieng
Pretty sure most of the fun was put to a stop there 10+ years ago to make it safe for mass Chinese tourism
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>>2712412
Are you the OP?
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>>2712825
Which bar, out of interest?
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>>2712514
You can't deny, it makes geographical sense to take this route if you want to cover the four countries of the region.
>>2712614
Simplest choice is to content yourself with spending time on one of Vietnam's beaches.
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>>2712379
Most of humanity is animalistic. But not all. Some carry seeds of divinity.
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>>2712137
There's a ferry from Bangkok to Koh Samui do some research. You are not too old but you are 20 years to late for the Half Moon Party when it was at it's peak.
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>>2712869
Lol what have you been doing until now if you didn't even accidentally knock some bitch up, and made no money along the way?
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>>2712916
>divinity
No such thing goof. We are just monkeys with brains big enough for self awareness. You won't earn any bonus points for believing in magic.
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Has anyone seen the new tax law draft? It's over for me bros
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>>2713166
it won't pass, it's just virtue signaling
if they do pass it, rich chinese will have thai politicians who supported it assassinated, and then the law will change back
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>>2713185
Take meds.
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>>2713185
I worry because I work for myself online, I'm OK paying taxes to whoever, but paying taxes would out me as illegally working. The Thai government doesn't usually care about some random white guy working online but this will make it much clearer to them that I am working illegally
So either I commit tax fraud or violate the labor protection act, despite being completely OK paying taxes to the government and not affecting the Thai job market in any possible way
Amazing Thailand!
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>>2713223
Shouldn't have been working illegally in the country then you daft sod
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>>2713223
>look at me I work remotely!
Just fuck off
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>>2713120
Ultimately dealing with a troubled and abusive family, figuring out how to make it through the world, traipsing around the world chasing shadows, maneuvering through the world into corporate jobs.
I have some solid net worth and more to come but the human relationship side of life is a fucking disaster.
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>>2713044
The poor dear :(

>>2713245
This desu desu senpai
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>you are illegally working online in our country!
stfu dumb gooks
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>>2711861
>The only thing you really shouldn't do is put your hands together

WHy are you giving false advice? To not reciprocate with a wai is considered rude. It has nothing to do with Buddhism.
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>>2713435
I say "thank you" in English in response, because I am a foreigner and not a Thai. "Hello" and "thank you" are the only English words I speak in Thailand. Sometimes small numbers as well, always accompanied by the appropriate number of fingers.
Many anecdotal reports suggest that Thais don't appreciate foreigners aping Thai mannerisms.
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>>2713435
Shut the fuck up retard. Farang aren't supposed to wai.
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>>2713497
I've never heard this before in my life.
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>>2713470
Thais love it when a farang speaks Thai, though
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>>2713526
you mean you've never heard about the most common faux pas farang constantly make as first time travelers in thailand?
that's surprising
did you think other farang weren't doing it because they were rude or ignorant?
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>>2713533
>did you think other farang weren't doing it because they were rude or ignorant?
They were doing it.
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>>2713533
Here's the thing, most of the people working with tourist in Thailand, aren't Thai. So doing it, or speaking some words in Thai, might make them feel like they're being welcomed as Thais with arms wide open.
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>it's another episode of the sperg having a fit about what you can and cannot do as a foreigner in Thailand
This is not Japan retard, also kindness is a universal language no matter what you might believe from your little rulebook on social interactions
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>>2713533
How to those monkeys know I'm not Buddhist?
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>records you walking down soi 6 and posts it on youtube
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>>2713589
>>2713585
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>>2713589
These guys unironically deserve their asses kicked on sight but I don't want to go to Thai jail any more than he wants to go to the hospital.
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>>2713589
You'd think they'd be more healthy, and not need so much attention, walking around all day.
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Are there any sports worth checking out in Thailand besides Muay Thai? Like Korean and Japanese baseball games being worth going out of your way to see?
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>>2713630
Water buffalo racing

Fuck sake I'm getting ban warnings for "trolling" and I'm not even trolling.
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>>2713635
Water buffalo racing sounds kino ngl
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>>2713630
>>2713630
i once went to a drag racing strip in southern thailand which was the best day ever
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>>2713635
>>2713645
Sounds like some badass redneck shit, and a good time
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sometimes i get those bar livestreams recommended to me on youtube. the girls are so loud
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>>2713635
I got one of those warnings for merely lecturing an "I'm too poor to travel" anon on the realities of putting aside money for travel as a common laborer. Apart from my flight to Bangkok, my rent check and a $65 unlocked phone for use in Asia, I spent only $221 in the past month. Staple groceries, fresh produce and laundry, that's about it. This month will be the same. Every workday pays for four days of physical and financial liberation from ZOG-ruled America.
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>>2713892
>Discovers fat people are disgusting
Who knew right?
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Any of you get the DTV? What's your take on it so far?
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>>2713497
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>>2713953
Kek based
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>>2713185
They already passed the overseas income tax law you idiot, its being DRAFTED by the Revenue Department as we speak. I warned you morons about this months ago.
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>>2713968
they won't do shit
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12 more weeks!! 12 weeks ago was June 27th. Not sure how long ago that feels.
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>>2713968
I went to three different banks last week to close corporate accounts that I wasn't using with them. Took the chance at each one to ask if foreign sourced funds were at risk of getting taxed or if I would ever need documentation that shows their source. Staff at all three branches had literally 0 clue what I was talking about. So yeah, I think we're good. Worst case scenario I get slapped for what, like 30% tops? Still less than what I'd pay at home. That's assuming they're even capable of putting together something like this, which given the state of their country seems highly improbable.
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>>2714176
Astigmatism.
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>>2713892
Based. How much weight did you lose?
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what is this gay ETA visa thing. so much for being visa exempt
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Can you still get cheap hotel rooms in person or is it better to go through a hotel aggregator website?
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>>2714149
I'm only waiting 1 more week. U jelly?
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>>2714211
25kg lmao
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>>2714360
This but unironically. It's just a lot more convenient.
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>>2714377
What if I just want their heart: https://youtu.be/4kGvlESGvbs?feature=shared
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>>2714415
>speak near fluent Thai
If she loves me, and I her, we'll develop a pidgin together.
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>>2714386
Nothing ironic there. I've tried every teaching facility available in the beautiful Kingdom of Thailand. Soapies are the best educational institution available.
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>>2714157
Minimum wage bank staff in a developing country like Thailand arent gonna know shit. You need to talk to a local CPA. I doubt even front desk staff at a major banks in the US would be able to tell you about all the laws regarding taxes/finra in relation to your bank account, and even less so at banks in Thailand. Also because Thais make nowhere near the amount that Westerners do, so the max tax bracket at 35% for Thai taxes applies to wages far far lower than whatever you make in the West. Wages back home that get you taxed locally at 15% to 20% would fall into the 35% tax bracket based on Thai wages, which means that you would need to pay the remaining 15%-20% to Thailand to make up that 35% that they require every year to stay in compliance. Theres a reason Thailand is now suddenly being so liberal with visas just as these foreigner tax laws are rolling out, and its to trap suckers like you.
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>>2714461
Yea thailand going after pension funds like retards, but retards are too addicted to being tutored by thai girls so what gonna happen?
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>>2714499
The rich people in the tourist areas already pay sales tax and vat.
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>>2714461
>You need to talk to a local CPA
A CPA's job is much like that of any beurocratic bloodsucking parasite, which is to try and upsell you on as much paperwork handling services as possible and they will use every little regulation in the book to justify them jewing you with a hefty bill. I had an accountant who would chew my ass out any time we bought some stupid bullshit like a pen for the company and didn't do the receipts how she wanted them done to abide by "muh laws". Charged me a fortune too cos she was thorough. Eventually I told her to go fuck herself and hired another one who does the bare minimum and stays the fuck out of my way.

The country is run by people who repatriate wealth from overseas investments because the entirety of stocks on the SET is worthless garbage. You think they're just going to allow a fat chunk of that to get eaten by taxes? It's not going to happen. It's corrupt as fuck and they will continue to maintain situations that benefit them economically. Planning, regulations, drafting, blah blah blah. I'm getting too old to care about any of this. When there's actual reports of geriatric expats in Udomsuk getting their paltry pensions taxed then I'll start to think about moving my money elsewhere, but by then there would be so much public backlash and money flowing out of the country that they will do a giant policy u-turn like they've done every other time some hairbrained scheme was pushed through.
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>>2713968
>I warned you morons about this months ago

so how are you meant to send yourself crypto cash here now without it getting Thaied up
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>>2711673
>go to thailand
>get attacked by super aggressive ninja snake
No thanks
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>>2714252
It depends. Booking.com takes a fat commission from the reservation and then pays it back to me for being a Genius user. If you don't get this perk, it may be cheaper to pay cash than to book online.
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With the Thai baht now reaching under 33 to the dollar, things are getting a bit pricier in Thailand than they were last year, when the baht was at 36 to the dollar. Still extremely affordable if one goes the sobriety + celibacy route...$25/day should be doable for covering the country and visiting many different provincial cities.
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>>2714700
Nobody goes to Thailand to be sober and celibate you retard dorker faggot.
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>>2714700
>>2714711
Thailand is becoming a place to have a job or proper biz in. Vietnam a place to "hang out" indefinitely while you figure out money

Thailand is still cheap by int'l standards. big time, but it may involve a house in Suthep rather than a 2bd in bangkok, for some budgets
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>>2714711
Guess I'm nobody then :)
I'd say enjoy your ladyboy surprise, but given your projection I'm guessing it won't be a surprise.. ;)
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>>2714716
Who would actually want to live in Bangkok? I love to hang out in Bangers but it would be seriously overstimulating in the long term. Maybe I'm just old but smaller Thai cities are way more my speed, and to your point, also much better priced.
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>>2714750
Yeah unless you're working there it's better thought of as a travel hub. Flights to pretty much everywhere and a good place to get whatever you'd need for your explorations in the region.
Otherwise it's just another big global city, super crowded and a pain to get around in for the most part.
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Hey, faggots. As you all may know, I tend to be quite harsh, and real with my observations of the places I travel too, in regards to the culture, such as the infrastructure layout and things that make any hot head need to vent, but today, given it's the equinox, and I'm in a giving mood, I'm turning over a new leaf. I'm talking about you. All of you. I go around asking people working in the tourist parts of town, "how do you say: dog; cat; chicken; thank you" in Thai, everyday. And they always help me learn, even if they're Burmese or Malaysian. And I feel, that most of them, out of the thousand people I've talked to, have learned English, by what they've heard tourist say to them. Sometimes the radio, or YouTube is how they learn more, but regardless, this last little bit is what troubles me. Out of the thousand interactions I've had, not one of them has heard the English word: "please." No one has been able to teach me how to say please in Thai. They've never heard it before. I even started saying it other possible languages they might interact with, like I've asked how to say ください. Still, they've never been asked if someone may have something that they possess. When people are learning English, why aren't they learning manners. Just because these ESL teachers have a degree or certificate, doesn't mean they're good eggs. I'm just gonna leave it there and get back to my merrymaking.
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>>2714716
>Thailand is becoming a place to have a job or proper biz in
wtf are you on about? A lot of jobs are illegal for foreigners to work at and you can't ever own more than 49% of your business in thailand
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>>2714814
You mean those teachers with fake degrees they bought on Khao San road aren't good? No way!
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>>2714814
>As you all may know, I tend to be quite harsh, and real with my observations of the places I travel too
I don't know who you are, m8. And I'm not asking, so don't bother telling me. You're just another faggot here.
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>>2714716
>>2714764
No the FUCK it isn’t im here now splashing the cash. You can ball for 2-3k a month. You can spend all the dork dollars you want, hoping to eventually outlast and outspend the swashbucklers but there’s always gonna be some girthy 9inch cocked FIFO worker to btfo dollar wise and dick wise
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pattaya is an absolute zoo and its still low season
crazy how much this place blew up after covid
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>>2714711
Stay in your nasty coomzone, you filthy ass eater. You don't belong in the real Thailand.
>>2714764
Biggest transport hassle in Bangkok is getting to the bus terminals from the nearest metro stops (Taling Chan Junction for the southern bus terminal and Chatuchak Park for the northern bus terminal). Both are located inconveniently far for walking with your luggage.
The metro to train connections are very easy, on the other hand. Bang Sue metro station is right outside Kruen Thep Aphiwat. Hua Lumphong metro station is right outside its eponymous train station. Both airports are also serviced by the metro system. Thonburi station is ten minutes' walk from Bang Khun Non metro station.
>>2714814
"Please" is meaningless verbal clutter. I'm not begging for a favor, I'm doing business. Manners in Thailand are 1) showing appreciation upon receipt of the goods, and 2) showing appreciation upon receipt of the payment.
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>>2714867
Do as thou whilst coomer, dgaf :)
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paid more for my hotel in pattaya than for the rest of thailand but i figure it's worth it for a nice room to study in. overall i think my average cost is $50 per night
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>>2714922
Yeah studying venereal disease ON YOUR COCK
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I've got a stack of Malaysian Ringgits, is there anywhere in BKK airport or Silom with a half decent rate?
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>>2714897
Yea I do my studying early in the night and then scamper under the covers around 2am, unless I get dragged to republic or something. I don’t know how I used to stay out all night every night for months.
>>2714922
Im in a $14/night dump and have to wear earplugs cuz the “action” is literally down below me. Feels comfy. Mirror adjacent to the bed, and I have my own earplugs so I can go sleepy :)
>>2714924
If things go left, Just take a shot of ceft. That’s what I always say.
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>>2714962
Sleeping with earplugs is dangerous. You're gonna get raped or burn in a fire.
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>>2714962
>Im in a $14/night dump and have to wear earplugs cuz the “action” is literally down below me. Feels comfy.
Comfy? Sounds more desperate. Why don't you stay in a nicer place where you don't need to sleep above the rooms for quick study sessions.
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>>2714964
K well I’ve been doing it for years
>>2714965
I’ve never seen the point of splurging on accoomidation. As long as there’s a bed, a mirror, hot water, working a/c and it’s not disgusting idgaf.

Location is more important to me.
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>>2714967
>accoomidation
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>>2714967
I was about to agree completely with your post but then I read above. The noise ruins it for me. But broadly agreed, luxury is for fags.
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>>2714897
Living outside of developed countries as full on expats did go bigger all across Asia seemingly
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I get btfo even in Isan clubs here
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>>2712048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G9U1QY4UDs
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>>2715094
>High income
Why even go to Thailand?
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>>2715085
>luxury is for fags.
is it really luxury at 400-800 USD/month. or maybe its just what they literally stole from you. QOL in thailand is what life would've been like had they not stolen our birthright via globalization and babylonian money majik. sure i like going low market secure in the feeling that the money will never run out. otoh no real tradeoffs need be made by going up market either.
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>>2714967
>I’ve never seen the point of splurging on accoomidation
keeping a second cheap accoomidation is considered good hygiene as far as i'm concerned.
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>>2715126
You sold your birthright. You're obsessed with money.
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>>2715095
What happened?
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>>2715140
money obsessed? no, purchasing power. QOL in thailand is what like in usa would look like if PPP had been preserved.
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>>2715144
i agree that much of the value proposition of thailand rests on simplicity.
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>>2715155
>want hi-rise condo?
>up to you...
>want girlfriend?
>up to you...
>want be well-fed hermit?
>up to you...
all same same but different
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>>2715153
Are you really rattling off more shit about money to prove how you're not a slave to it. You signed on the dotted line. Take responsibility for your actions.
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>>2715158
I should add to this, back home, on the farm in Missouri, I spend an 1/8 of what I do for a lesser quality here in Thailand. So, shut up with your baby back bullshit. You did this. No one else did. You sold your soul. Now deal with it, like a man.
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>>2715161
Being wealthy is good, actually.
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>>2715161
lol not only a troll but a retard to boot...
>apples to oranges
spending less due to a dearth of options isn't the own you think it is when actually getting far far less for more.
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>>2715161
>I spend an 1/8 of what I do for a lesser quality here in Thailand
only a retard would solely travel to thailand to buy consumer electronics.
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>>2714962
What are you studying? You go to school in Thailand?
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>>2711673
I've been following the Insecurity Guard blueprint for broke incel losers, finally got a slop EZ mode job a couple months ago (delivery driver for a small company). It's not quite as slop as being a security guard, I have to be more active than sitting at a desk the entire shift, but some days I get to drive for hours at a time for a single delivery just listening to podcasts.

Now I'm faced with the decision of quitting around December and going to Thailand for a two or three month stint, or waiting a whole year and going next December with way more cash to blow. I also have to consider how this will affect the dynamic of my hopeless future. But I dont think I can take another bleak sexless winter. The Insecurity Guard's dilemma of navigating a drought and flood- ascetic hedonist lifestyle is truly mind boggling.
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>>2715185
idk anon. the way i see it thailand helps me set goals. if you're kvetching over the cost, then you'll need to compromise. be responsible and don't spend more than you can afford or to the point that you'd be wiped out. maintain a six month emergency fund. perhaps shooting for a six months stint every 2 years or so. also consider that you'll need to move around anyway so why not lower your cost basis via a stay in indonesia/bali/vietnam. the way i figure it if thailand is $1500/month and its possible to tread water in some other country for $500/month, the monthly cost averages out to $1000/month which is pretty good.
opportunity costs, if nonexistent, shouldn't prevent you being happy; just be smart about it.
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>>2715144
>still like to coom,
>of course...
https://youtu.be/tFiHcVdtjIc?t=65
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>>2715281
>opportunity costs, if nonexistent, ...
Fucking grim
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I'm going south to see the islands
Should I avoid the one with moon Festival and that one from the Beach? I'm all for partying but I want to avoid being stuck with 20 year old retards slugging away
I want to be snorkelling mostly
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>>2715281
>opportunity costs, if nonexistent
This is the biggest mental hurdle for me, I want to eventually get a career and house, but that would be the death knell of any more long term SEA trips. I want to maximize my time in SEA before I hit 35 and I'm officially an old man, but I made poor decisions and am way behind on both of those goals, so doing so will significantly effect my future in a negative way. Any six month stint in Thailand will be adding years to the hell like prison scape of a future that I've created for myself. Being a a poorfag wagie with no remote job but aspirations of SEAmaxxing long term is a delusion, but I'd rather live this delusion than succumb to the alternative
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I have more than half a mil to my name but I still prefer the simple 500 baht/night room with everything I need, over the more expensive options which have the same amenities but just looks a little bit prettier. Also the more expensive hotels will Jew you over any chance they get, if you try to bring anyone to your room.
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>>2715357
Could also go about it the wrong way or experience setbacks. I've been trying to seamaxx for a fucking decade but it hasn't been anything more then an occasional trip.
>out of high school for a couple years, travel
>wow life outside America can be fucking incredible
>come back, into school, travel during most summers
>finish degree, start working
>remote jobs aren't easily attainable yet for my total lack of experience
>keep working, finally land a full remote job
> they say they're fine with me working abroad for around a couple months a year
>fuckinghellyes.jpg
>the job ends up being hell
>can't travel and work anyway because this is insane and I'm still getting settled into a new city
>laid off after a couple MISERABLE years
>this city fucking sucks anyway after all that effort
Well I guess I'll take what I can get. Maybe one day I'll have that full remote dorker job. Until then I'll be unemployed in Asia. Fuck opportunity cost. A few months won't ruin everything for me.
FUCK YOU SEATTLE

>captcha is SRRY
Fucking lol.
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>>2715366
Seattle is a hellhole. I'm a far-left radical so the memes say I should like it there but the memes are wrong because it's hard to imagine a much shittier place for a regular person to live. I was there for nine years and it only kept getting worse.
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>>2715290
What's really grim, is those monthly cost amounts he quoted, are for if you just sit in your room all day with a thumb up your butt.
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Don't you guys have neetbux saved up?
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>>2715421
of course budgets will vary depending on appetites, no? everyone understands that whoring, drinking, clubbing, and ballin' out will cost. the beauty of thailand is lifestyle customization. i might go out twice a month and look for study partners at the same rate. otherwise, i'm quite happy to fatten up, chill, and soak up the vibe. as the adage goes, "the market will pay you in kind..."
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>>2715281
Bali/Vietnam won't be cheaper than BKK
$1500/month is plenty if you don't enjoy overpaying for trendy bars/restaurants/hookers
$500 for room with a pool
$600 for 20x$30 hookers
$300 for food
$100 for transport and other costs
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>>2715453
1500 dollars in Thailand would leave you malnourished after paying for accommodation.
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>>2715457
yeah i was thinking moreso java
>>2715335
>but I'd rather live this delusion than succumb to the alternative
time. time to reevaluate, focus, and energize goes underappreciated in these discussions. america is full of miserable freaks who can't help but to denigrate other's struggle - naysayers should be ignored. i remember a apartment tour in where the vlogger was brimming with enthusiasm only find people throwing shade at him for not having been raised with wealth.
>>2715421
perhaps this doesn't apply to you but i can't help but notice how the policies&aspirations of the thai tourism board has affected COL discussions. rebranding as a luxury destination is warranted as thailand obviously has much to offer. but we shouldn't allow that narrative to dominate the conversation.
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>>2715466
this is what im talking about.
how much they paying you somchai?
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>>2715366
you might enjoy this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX2l5GdB6sI
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>>2715472
>two middle-aged bald white guys doing a podcast about passive income
YES these are the people I aspire to be!
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>>2715472
Good video. A lot of what I've seen and experienced is the same way of thinking as the bald chads, so I'm pretty far along that path anyway.
I'm just disappointed about not being able to collect big bucks WHILE being in Asia. I was so close to getting what I wanted from all those years ago only to have it ripped from me.

I dump money into stocks though and have a few hundred k net worth in my investment journey. I could probably almost just retire, but after all I've been through to get here I feel like I should keep working while I can and get what I can out of it. The more time I'm outside of the US the better, but I'm not quite aiming for a forever escape thing yet.
Just about to start a few months stint at the end of this month.
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>>2715534
Seethe, wagie. Freedom uber alles
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>>2715554
I'm already financially independent, retard.
believe me, if your goal is just to ammas enough wealth until you can live off the dividends/interest in asia, you will be disappointed once you get there. After that point, you're still going to have to find something to do or you'll get bored quickly. The thing about vacation that's so great, is that it's a break from working hard (to get that vacation in the first place) and it's a reward. Once you start being on vacation all the time, it doesn't feel the same anymore and you just become a NEET which will not fulfill you.
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>>2715571
Good point, but that's why freedom is only really meant for those able to define their own mission and have their own values.
We'll see how it goes. I have many options and have taken many courses in life already.

>>2715420
And it's not even just the leftists. It's also the passive aggressive fuckers from the mid west who moved here. It's like the average person is absolute trash and also trying to just tear others down.
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>>2715573
Yeah I've never lived anywhere in my life with the same feeling that simply nobody actually likes each other. I bet it was great like 30 years ago but why anyone, regardless of what kind of person they are, acts like it's a cool place to be now is beyond me. Fuck me it's so depressing there. You're doing the same thing I did be bouncing out to Asia and if you make it work you'll be so much happier.
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>>2715571
>just become a NEET which will not fulfill you.
yeah slaving away to make someone else rich is so fulfilling. yawn.
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>>2715581
I'm coming bro :crying: I'm almost there. Keep a seat warm for me. Few more days.
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>>2715622
That will cost you. And cost you big. It's the low season. Things are cheap? A cheap pair of athletic shoes that cost 50-80 dollars in the USA or 6000 yen in Osaka, cost 6000 baht. That's right. Not the best newest most expensive pair of running shoes with gore tex that you can get online for 150 dollars, cheap, cheap ones will run close to two hundred dollarinoes. I'd just stay home if I were you. Oh, and this is by no way financial advice.
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>>2715608
some people are born to be slaves
they can't comprehend life without work
when they finally retire in their 70s they will bored because they don't have anything to do
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I live in central Pattaya with a modern 1br apartment in a complex with a couple swimming pools and an decent little resto (for thai food). It also has a small but perfectly equipped gym with everything I need.

I spend about $3.5k usd a month to be very comfortable/luxurious, and I coom at least 4x a week. I'm not a big materialist and don't buy random shit. I also don't binge drink every night (only on the weekends). I might occasionally splurge on a soi6 expedition or a walking street night, but it's rare and unnecessary because I have an on call harem of fun sized isan spinners who will come to me.
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>>2715715
>gym
gay
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>>2715716
once you grow up a little bit you will realize that having a healthy and strong body is the greatest quality of life improvement possible, and it's also something you cannot simply purchase

good health and free time are the ultimate luxuries
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>>2715717
Maintaining good health eats up too much of that free time for my liking.
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>>2715718
Yeah I'm sure you have a really full schedule while living on NEETbux in thailand. lmao
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>>2715719
>living on NEETbux
God do I ever wish, bro.
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>>2715718
yes few hours of exercise per week is tooooo much
it's true that people leave their brains at the airport when they arrive to Thailand
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>>2715769
I'm like this everywhere desu. I already lose most of my waking life to work.
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exercise isn't work
swimming in the pool isn't work
not eating so much isn't work
drinking more water isn't work
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>>2711673
hello how do I get psychedelics (esp DMT) in thailand. was thinking about getting it from dnm shipped somewhere there but not sure if people just sell it or whatever. probably hard but I would like if possible :)

otherwise what about other place in sea? somewhere good looking nature would be good

thank you for answering
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>>2715809
There's good looking nature all over so you're in luck on that front, but I don't know where to get the droogs. Surely it's easier in Thailand than any other country because that's the degeneracy containment zone. I wish I had acid in Vietnam but I wouldn't know where to begin looking.
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>>2715457
i came across this vlog from a regular guy on living a simple life in the phils
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEnZ0MXIZ5k
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>>2715715
>My dream
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>>2715903
Does the monkey in SEAmonkey come from a small percentage of Aboriginal DNA? Look at the jaw and teeth on that bird, she's got that big teeth look that Australian Abbos have.
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>>2715809
Chiang Mai or Pai. In CM you can ask people around the bar districts that foreigners frequent, and they'll definitely be able to hook you up. Pai is a mountain town surrounded by beautiful nature. Drunk lowlifes can't stand all the trippy white hippies there.
>DMT
I seriously doubt anyone in Thailand will be keen on letting random strangers with who-knows-what mental illnesses blow their mind ripping a bong of DMT. Too much risk of something going wrong. In any case, how would a DMT trip in Thailand be any different of an experience from a DMT trip in your mom's basement?
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>>2715650
>athletic shoes
Why would you buy farang shoes in Thailand? Wear whatever slip-ons the locals wear.
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>>2715650
Ok poorfag
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>>2715903
angeles city is a total shithole these days, no reason to live there at all
the bars are absolute horrific compared to thailand
>>2715940
>how would a DMT trip in Thailand be any different of an experience from a DMT trip in your mom's basement?
trip intensity and experience vary wildly based on what you are doing in your life and where you are at the time
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What are some fun weeknight things to do in BKK with my wife? As in, not cooming. In Phra Ram 9 area so anything on the train line is great.
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>>2715831
>Surely it's easier in Thailand than any other country because that's the degeneracy containment zone
Only for the most normie tourists. Everybody always seems to forget that Cambodia exists, but there's definitely more degen sex stuff, weed was never illegal and hard drugs are easier to get there.
>>2715809
>otherwise what about other place in sea? somewhere good looking nature would be good
Shrooms will be the easiest psychedelics to find by far, I think in Bali and the islands around there, also in Laos. In Thailand you'd go to some places up north like >>2715940, or go to the islands with more dirty hippies like Ko Phangan or Ko Chang
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>>2716072
>Everybody always seems to forget that Cambodia exists
Guilty as charged. I do forget about Cambodia. I really need to check it out one of these days. Where can you recommend?
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>>2715916
....our dream, fren
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>>2716073
Ignore that poster, Cambodia sucks
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>>2716080
cambodia exists to deepen my appreciation of thailand...pretty much goes for the rest of se asia for that matter.
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>>2716080
What sucks about it? I like shitholes. They're comfy.
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>>2716082
>cambodia exists to deepen my appreciation of thailand...pretty much goes for the rest of se asia for that matter.
>>2716043
>angeles city is a total shithole these days, no reason to live there at all
>the bars are absolute horrific compared to thailand
on top of also harboring some very physically gross areas like all the trash in the nearby river. driving along a river of just trash piles...

Even a city of 30,000 in thailand is infinitely more functional, clean enough and presentable than the equivalent in PH seemingly
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Is Nana plaza fun to poke around in if Im not going to coom?
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>>2716088
What's the point?
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>>2716088
>not going to coom
Gay.
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>>2716084
cambodia's comfy in the same way as one who's made their peace before dying. is it still the wild west or it merely wild now? its been some years.
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>>2716073
>Where can you recommend?
Angkor Wat is always worth seeing, but I haven't been to Cambodia for 10+ years so I don't know what the rest of it's like these days.

>>2716088
>Is Nana plaza fun to poke around in if Im not going to coom?
Some of the bars can be entertaining, but you'll probably get bored quick if you aren't looking to buy
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>>2711726
>Other Thailand travelers, how important is it to you to be judged positively by Thais?
I’m not sure I’ve ever given it that much thought; I lived and worked in Thailand (and also in Laos for a bit, which is similar in many ways, but quite a bit more conservative) on and off for more than ten years, and I came to know the place extremely well. In the process, I became fluent in Thai, and picked up at least some local habits and mannerisms along the way. I never specifically wanted to act Thai (which I agree with >>2711861 isn’t really possible; more on this below), but I did acquire a very good sense of what people found offensive, and I made a point of not offending people.

Thailand is still a much more uptight, image- and reputation-conscious place than casual visitors usually notice. Tourists do a lot of things that gross locals out far more than they usually let on. I have interacted with hundreds of Thais (and dozens of Laotians) who’ve expressed undisguised contempt for tourists they think are disrespectful—border police mocking backpackers’ unkempt elephant pants and dreadlocks and Singha singlets, laughing in their faces about how they hope the Lao cops will bust them for drugs, etc. By being clean and well-dressed, not visibly intoxicated, and not on the arm of a hooker half my age, I’ve been able to escape that kind of negative reaction completely, and because I speak Thai I’ve often been in on the joke when locals make fun of scumbags.

But the poster who talks about impossibility above is at least half-right—even the most gone-local, pseudo-integrated farang, who speaks Thai (or better yet, local dialect) is always an outsider, which for some people (not most, but some) means an inferior. The best one can hope for is to be regarded as an amusing novelty, like a talking monkey. And a foreigner who’s just clean and quiet can be just as inoffensive.

I disagree that one can’t be respected, but one can’t not be an alien.
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>>2716090
right gay people actually have sex in mutual situations instead of flying to the other side of the planet to pay a diseased whore to coom
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>>2716110
You aren't fooling anyone, we know they do both and travel for brown buttboys
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>>2716089
Well that's my question. Like it's fun to walk around a vegas casino even if youre not gambling. Is nana plaza fun to grab a beer and people-watch in?
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>>2716134
>midget
what the fuck
how was it
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>>2716134
Interesting anecdote :)

Is there enough in the vicinity of the plaza that even if I don't like the vibe it's not a wasted trip? If so, any highlights Iyo?
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>>2716134
>despite having no intention of cooming when I got there, and not really being into paid sex at all, I ended up paying a not-particularly-attractive midget for sex
What the fuck lol

Think I'll hang around nana plaza sometimes and people watch too.
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>>2716143
>Is there enough in the vicinity of the plaza that even if I don't like the vibe it's not a wasted trip? If so, any highlights Iyo?

It’s a pretty lively area in general—across the street from the Plaza itself there are a bunch of bars that aren’t officially sex venues, and there are plenty of street vendors and restaurants all over that bit of Sukumvit. It’s quite close to “little Arabia” and some excellent Indian and Pakistani restaurants, as well. Plus the sky train is right there, so it’s a quick and easy escape whenever you get bored.
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>>2716143
>Is there enough in the vicinity of the plaza that even if I don't like the vibe it's not a wasted trip?

sukhimvit / nana area is extremely dense with bullshit, it's worth spending an evening at least
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What is the cheapest way to get to Koh Lanta from Phi Phi?
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>>2716201
A boat
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>>2716210
You lying spaz
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>>2716210
there are parasites that force animals to drown themselves so maybe there are gay parasites that make you gay. they probably eject through the penis into the butt to breed
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I'll have 3 weeks vacation and I'm thinking of visiting Bangkok, Pattaya and Singapore.
How would you divide the days between those 3? Maybe worth adding some other city?
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>>2716326
3 weeks in pattaya
>singapore
Have you SEEN the thread about it? Dismal
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>>2716330
Singapore mostly for sightseeing, I'm not planning on partying there. Same with Bangkok to a lesser extent.
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>>2716331
You’re a stronger man than me. Well then…
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Is a language visa a good idea for a long term stay? One year and no visa runs, you can do the classes online I heard.
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>>2716334
Here now. Bangkok is fun for a literally a few days.
>soi cowboy/nana
Can be done in 1-2 nights
>muh nightclubs
>muh skybar
I’m sure there’s some ballin restaurants, but I’m fine with sputtering over my pad grapao moo (kai dow of course) and eating spicy som tam with leaves of lettuce by hand. It’s great
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>>2716084
You can book a bungalow with shared bathroom for $4/night out here on the outskirts of Krong Ban Lung. Can you sleep comfortably in the tropical heat? If not, you'll be subjected to the nonstop din of one of those horrible window-unit A/C units that is only capable of cooling a closet. It's really tough to go back after enjoying the silent cooling of a modern A/C unit.
>>2716080
Still wanna see just how bad the Cambodian passenger rail actually is. It starts right across the border in Poi Pet from the last SRT station.
>>2716087
Cambodia is even more trashy than Angeles.
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Hmmm.... Maybe I'll start with a few nights in bkk and then go check out pattaya for the first time. Whichever I like more, I can be in.
Big brain move
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>>2716350
I’m gonna ask some experts and get back to you.
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>>2716334
>Why is there so many stories from maniacs in Pattaya but not bkk
Better value for money and more concentrated degeneracy if all you care about is cooming.
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>>2716354
>It starts right across the border in Poi Pet
but if you miss it you'll be in poi pet
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>>2716336
>Is a language visa a good idea for a long term stay? One year and no visa runs, you can do the classes online I heard.

While it lasts, why not? There’s been a lot of grumbling about it for some time now because of how easy the system has been to abuse—a bunch of Chinese gangsters who were pretending to be language students got busted not so long ago, so some in the government have been making noise about either applying more scrutiny to long language visas or eliminating them altogether, but it hasn’t happened yet. A lawyer friend-of-a-friend in BKK who does a lot of visa-related stuff for expats has been warning against trying to abuse EDU visas for a couple of years at this point. But the visas do still exist.

And if I’m not wrong, although you don’t have to leave the country, you do have to check in at a local immigration office regularly (maybe monthly?) with a signed chit from your language school attesting that you’re actually taking classes; people went to prison for helping the Chinese mafiosi fake this stuff, so I would guess that fewer schools are now willing to lie on their “students’” behalf, in case you weren’t actually planning to take the Thai lessons.

But you might as well go to class—speaking Thai significantly improves quality of life while living in Thailand.
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>>2716431
This is what coomers call 'humor'.
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>>2716526
I think he's serious. It also puts me off of pattaya.
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>>2716554
>It also puts me off of pattaya.
Pattaya is pretty much a shithole. It has nothing to offer that can be openly discussed here. There are much, much better beaches, restaurants, resort hotels, and even golf courses all over the country.

>Oh, maybe except the snake farm, if that’s still operating—it’s almost certainly the best cobra plantation in Thailand.
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>>2716431
>Call me whatever you want, but I need to >feel like I’m in a place where I’ll be >judged the least for being perpetually >alone. That means places to eat and >drink where I’m not facing anyone, >hotels where the front desk doesn’t see >me spend a whole day coming and >going alone, and tutoring academies >where it’s commonplace for a lone white >guy to show up.

You've got this completely backwards. If you don't want to be judged then there is all kinds of plausible deniability in Bangkok. There is absolutely none in Pattaya. Everyone knows why you're there and they ARE judging you for it. I'm in Bangkok right now. I'm giving lessons 2-3x per day every single day. This afternoon I gave a massage lady a hard lesson that she finished by hand and a deaf student from Soi 4 just left my special needs class (not my proudest lesson if I'm being honest). My social media is full of pictures of food and landmarks though so everyone thinks I'm this Anthony Bourdain wannabe world explorer. If I was in Pattaya there is zero denying why I'm there.
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>>2716611
>zero denying why I'm there
for the temples, elephants, and floating market, duh...just like you see on my newest magnet to the collection
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>>2716611
Eh, you're both wrong in your own ways, and also incredibly insecure faggots.
Pattaya is like Thai Vegas, famous for what it was but plenty of people have different motives for being there. It's also hugely popular with east Asians now, to the point where there are days I don't see any whites beyond Russian couples and families.
That said, the beaches are lousy compared to any of the islands, and there are way too many jeets. Was so much nicer when covid had them locked out..
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>>2716480
Good point. Poi Pet from traveler reports is a shithole full of scumbags, with no good budget hotels. Would rather cross from Thailand into Laos instead by mid-December...it's got lovely winter weather, natural beauty, plentiful guesthouses, a conservative culture, sedate streets and a steadily weakening kip even with the recent sharp decline of the USD against most other ASEAN currencies.
>>2716611
Exactly, in Pattaya they are judging whether or not you are interested in their services. In Bangkok, they are judging you for being a foreigner in a Thai-only neighborhood. There's a reason you see few white guys in the hectic working-class neighborhoods of Bangkok; we aren't treated very nicely or made to feel welcome. The biggest downside for me of staying in the residential districts of Bangkok is not the unfriendly attitudes, but the limited and unappealing food options.
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>>2716721
>the limited and unappealing food options.
What's unappealing about it?
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>>2716747
Thai food is yucky and too spicy :(
I want McDonald's.
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>>2716747
One place I stayed at near the Lat Phrao monorail, the only eateries within a few minutes' walk were a bunch of carts outside the 7-Eleven. Nothing they were serving up looked appetizing.
Keep in mind that $2 restaurant plates are not cheap food in Thailand, they are mid-range. Truly cheap Thai food ($1 to fill your belly) is served at the mobile stalls. Often it is low-quality, lacking flavor, stale and prone to irritating the gut. Yes, foreigners should be picky when eating in Thailand. Some vendors are dirty, lazy and careless about food quality; patronizing them is unwise. Even if your gut is tough enough not to get sick, one bad meal can ruin your energy level and your ability to enjoy a good meal for the next 16+ hours.
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>>2716775
I ate at those mobile stalls every day for a month and a half in Thailand and I enjoyed the food and never got sick, but you're right that the sanitary conditions are grim and I would avoid the more obvious offenders.
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>>2716780
Great, I didn't miss another episode of: The 4chan Faggot That Is Incapable Of Understanding Other People's Unique Perspective And Gives Bad Advice. I like last week's episode, where you spoke about how easy it was to find cheap clean safe accommodation in Manilla at any number of the Marine Complexes near the bay, which you have to have a merchant marine's ID card to check in to.
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>>2716807
lmao what?
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>>2716807
Meds.
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>>2716668
>incredibly insecure faggot
Yea what can I say. I make do
>>2716721
You get it
>>2716775
I eat isaan pork like it’s my job. I love it no homo
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>>2716807
>>2716811
>>2716827
It's just Insecurity Guard and his blatantly obvious trolling/samefagging again, ignore/report
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anyone having a problem with Thai food (objectively the best food) is a huge faggot and you shouldn't be talking in this general.
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>>2716807
>Other People's Unique Perspective
You some kind of snowflake?
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>>2713596
they must be ogres. im a 0/10 in usa but i can't make down soi6 without being repeatedly SA'd i must look like an easy mark (i am).
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https://t.me/+9JUSwjm42OUwOGVh
sanctuary for all
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>>2711673
I have tix to Chiang Mai booked for Oct 5, what are the odds that the flooding situation is still fucked by then? And any anons in the area? is it still a functional city you can enjoy or a big bummer that's better avoided rn? I do regret booking it but it seemed a no brainer 2 months ago. I also had a hotel booked for the first 2 nights, in old city.
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>>2716980
Chang Mai is currently severely flooded all over the city. A week from now they will still be cleaning up, at best. Possibly still flooded at worst. Visiting as a tourist to a disaster zone is in bad taste, consider delaying your trip or going somewhere else in Thailand.
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>>2717016
I told you, it's prepaid and booked. I can't delay it or cancel, it would just be a total loss. Im asking if it's not even worth showing up for a day to see if it's alright.
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I'll be in Bangkok for three days. Please critique my itinerary.
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>>2717016
Take the L on the hotel and book a connecting flight to Phuket, weather is looking decent enough for Oct
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>>2717065
Ugh, meant for >>2716980
Parasite cleaner is getting to me.. Lol
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>>2717051
Autistic/10
Enjoy your trip anon!
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>>2713223
Have you considered not being a parasite?
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>>2717051
Should also mention for your Saturday, Chatuchak is retardedly huge, you could easily spend a whole day there until you got heat fucked.
If you're intent on speedruning bkk, I'd skip it and just wander down Khaosan rd instead. it's close to the palace/ temple area and you'll get a decent selection of the tourist trinkets without getting lost in the maze.
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I’m a faggot, where do I find a hot twunk / buffed boys to fuck in BKK. I can pay them pretty money and also can be thais or foreigners though
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>>2717051
kek this looks like something you've made for your parents because it's your first solo trip and you're trying to convince them that you're not just going to get shitfaced and fuck ladyboys.
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>>2717067
I appreciate it, cunt.
>>2717082
Do you not recommend Tor Kor Market as an alternative to Chatuchak? Or should I still stick with your recommendation of Khaosan Rd?
>>2717086
Stop revealing your insides. Not everyone is a twink loving cuck like you
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>>2717111
>Do you not recommend Tor Kor Market as an alternative to Chatuchak? Or should I still stick with your recommendation of Khaosan Rd?
I haven't been to Tor Kor, but from the pics it looks to be purely food.
I suppose it depends on what you're looking to get out of the market, just the sights or are you looking for something in particular?
There's a wet market near Khaosan if you're interested in seeing that kind of thing, there's also the Yaowarat night market in Chinatown with lots of street food.
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>>2717038
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/tourists-avoid-chiang-mai-as-thailand-warns-of-more-floods
It is quite a mess...however, CNX airport is well away from the Ping River, which runs along the eastern side of the city. Stay away from the river, that's all.
>>2716780
How many 30 baht to-go meals in sun-warmed plastic bags did you eat? The mobile stalls in night markets, day markets and other areas of high appeal/high competition are much more appetizing than the ones that operate in unvisited working-class neighborhoods and have everything pre-cooked.
>>2716883
>isaan pork
Fucking A. Picrel was something like 60 baht in Khon Kaen.
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>>2711673
What are the drugs like over there?
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>>2717065
The only reason Im not hype about that is that Ill have just spent a week on koh phangan and phuket is kinda similar but worse
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>>2717183
Where is the most interesting non-river adjacent area?
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>>2717051
Why ramen for every meal?
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>>2717213
Gotcha, well you could always stay put and check out one of the other gulf islands instead, or look at other flight options out of CMX. Taipei is decently priced and a lot of fun to explore.
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>>2717076
thailand doesn't deserve to tax my income just because I happened to be physically present in the country

all of my work and everything I produce is online

if I was actually working for a thai company and doing something in thailand, that would be a different story
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>>2717218
autism
I have it also
I ate nothing but macaroni and cheese (various brands and types) for about 2 years when first living on my own. I do mean that literally. Only macaroni and cheese.
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>>2717183
Based comfy isaan table spread >>2716921
You don’t even know my writing style you fuckin Johnny come lately bitch ass nigga
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>>2717051
or tor kor is massively overpriced
go to khlong toei or bo bae market for fruits
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I'm 32yo and gonna stay exclusively in party hostels and there is NOTHING you can do to stop me so don't even try
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>>2717252
Pay up farang dog. Merely existing while being inside Thailand should be taxed every minute.

You pay big money ai Kwai
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>you cannot turn back the clock
>you will never get another chance to be 20 in Thailand
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>>2717465
Thailand has this effect on me where at the apex of my trip, perhaps after several surreal nights where everything just works perfectly, and I end up having an amazing study sessions with some tutors, that there is this “feeling” which juxtaposes all of it. I can’t exactly call it sadness or existential despair but it’s this very strong perception that life is just a series of moments and then they’re gone forever.

Driving by the bars at the end of the road where boomers sit and languidly sip at their chang beer staring off into space waiting to be put out to pasture really ties it all together

I think thais somehow psychologically live abreast of this existential reality through truly believing in Buddhism but I couldn’t explain how that works
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>>2717214
I stayed on Samlarn Road inside the walled city, it was pretty dull. Most of Chiang Mai is just a typical Thai city, it doesn't have glitzy glamorous districts like Bangkok does. The eastern side of the city seems to have the most foreigners and nightlife. Tha Phae Street, Loi Kroh Road. I only spent one night on that side.
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>>2717503
Of course, Thais don't have the issue of coping with all that leisure time...for them it's just another workday.
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>>2717548
>people more successful than him
Not him but success is a meme.
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>>2717540
>all that leisure time
>it's just another workday
Based
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>>2717539
Im looking for boring, maybe some temples, good food and cafes and easily accessible tours. Im here with my mother in law.
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>>2717465
Just think of all the fucking losers who never even did that much in their 20s. Since ive turned 30 every 20-something I encounter I tell them vehemently to go to SEA before its too late.
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>>2717639
Amen, I'm 40 and desperately making up for lost time
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>>2717639
Complete opposite for me. Home is where you make it.
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>>2717639
>>2717642
I’m 33 and already feel like an old boomer with these 20 year old teens trying to drag me to clubs n shit. Is that normal?
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Anyone been to Koh Muk,Trang? How was it?
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>>2717646
You make it just as easily with a gap year in SEA. Hell, even a month is fine.
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>>2711673
I’m going home in 2 weeks. Doesn’t feel good, but it doesn’t feel that bad either. I’ll see you in hell dorkies
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>>2717705
great photo anon
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>>2717708
Are you approaching "all coomed out" status?
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>>2717765
>I want to spend a day hiking up and around there
this shit is way too hot for me, spent a few hours clapped out on a beach instead. the weather app on my phone was saying "32c feels like 41c" all day
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>>2717769
i'll be there january so hopefully it's better
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>>2717664
There's nothing to be learned that you didn't already know. That your home is good. And if you don't know that, spend that month or gap year making your home better. Volunteer or something. Keep that hard earned money in your system. They're undeserving. I guarantee you that.
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>>2717781
>Keep that hard earned money in your system.
A bunch of bankers and landlords aren't my system.
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>>2717654
lmao yeah I've been there
thats the problem with 'dating' 20 year olds when you are in your 30's, they want to binge drink and go crazy but you've already done it and dont give a shit

>>2717765
no need to study excessively, just study when you want
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>>2717821
Ok, but that old lady down the street baking pies or running the stray cat kennel living off a pension that continues to not be enough because of inflation due to continued growth should be.
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>>2717705
>>2717769
where is that?
fuck man I wish Thailand was better suited for hiking. It has some amazing nature but the trails are all shit or barely longer than a kilometer and I'm absolutely scared shitless when I go a little bit off the path because of potential snakes or walking straight into a spider web of one of those huge spiders the size of your hand
>pic rel I saw these fuckers every time I hiked
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>>2717833
Koh Larn looking at Pattaya
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How should you dress in Thailand such that you don't look like a boomer that's just there to study (even if you're mostly there for the private lessons)?
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>>2717852
dont wear sandals or shorts and dont be bald
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>>2717853
Everyone wears sandals in Thailand; in fact, it's only foreigners who wear sneakers and socks. OTOH, wearing shorts is almost unheard of among Thai men, while every single farang you see will be wearing shorts. Make of that what you will.
>>2717862
Walk around Sukhumvit and you'll see a lot of single white guys dressing quite snazzy these days. Polo shirts are often in style.
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>>2717770
Cooler than 32 C? Unlikely at that latitude. The tropical seas keep temps and humidity roughly the same year-round.
>>2717769
"Feels like" temps are irrelevant once you've adapted to a tropical climate. Sunshine is the prime determinant in how sweltering it feels outside.
>>2717638
You can find those things scattered all over the city. There are tons of tour agencies in CM. Picrel is what Samlarn Street looks like.
>>2717781
Yeah right, the local Kroger-owned supermarket in America is so much more deserving of my money than the dozens of food vendors and eatery staff who I benefit while in Southeast Asia.
>>2717832
>baking pies
Yes, in Thailand I'm happy to contribute to local food artisans, because I can afford to do so to my heart's desire. Here in my town, a pie that is all of three bites costs $8.
>stray cat kennel
Do-gooders and charity fags can all go to hell. Can't stand how the western system takes from valuable contributors in order to hand it to the worthless moochers.
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>>2717852
Sneakers, polo, khaki shorts. Oh and have hair
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>>2717945
Being so inclined to argue over something that is reasonable, like loving your home. You got a long road ahead of you, son. Just know, you don't have to do this alone. I'm always here for you. And if it's ever to much to bear, you can take my hand.
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>>2717945
>"Feels like" temps are irrelevant once you've adapted to a tropical climate. Sunshine is the prime determinant in how sweltering it feels outside.
I just arrived from the UK last week where we had maybe 2 or 3 days with some sun this whole summer
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>>2715457
>>2715466
>>2715281
These are all paid feds. You can get nice rooms in thailand for $150 a month. Food should cost you around $50 if you’re eating whatever you want.
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>>2717948
I'll wear literally nothing in that post. Oh and no hair.
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>>2717949
>you can take my hand
3gay5me
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>>2718194
Bullshit. They might not take 40 year old bargirls back to their room like the losers do, but they enjoy the buzzy nightlife and fawning attention from the female staff all the same.
>>2718015
$50 per week is limiting you to the cheaper street stalls and sit-down options. A tourist survey (too lazy to find the link) reveals that the average visitor to Thailand spends about $20/day on food...the figure has come down since before COVID, as more foreigners are "eating like a local" instead of patronizing the fancy tourist places. The sky is the limit as far as how much you want to pay for fine dining and exquisite flavors in Bangkok.
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Sup bros? My Vietnamese work visa just ended and I had to come to Thailand to request a 90 day tourist visa to bridge the gap to when I start my next job there. The day before my visa expired, I had a motorbike accident and broke my collarbone badly enough that I need surgery when I get back to Vietnam. Still had to leave though. In the meantime I'm by myself in a cheap Bangkok hotel waiting on my new visa to process, in considerable pain and unable to do normal shit like take a shower, tie my own shoes, etc. Cooming in this condition is right out. What would you guys do if you were me?
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>>2718298
I would had requested a new vietnamese visa while still in vietnam to save time
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>>2718298
so you crashed in thailand 1 day before the expiration of the visa and now you have to go back to Vietnam with a broken collarbone that requires surgery to fix?

This is why I don’t drive motorbikes in SEA and never will.
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>>2718338
Crashed in Vietnam one day before visa expiration, flew here yesterday.
I've been living in Vietnam for over a year and had been desensitized to the danger of motorbikes but I have to say your stance on them makes sense to me in this moment lol.
>>2718333
These days they apparently decline you when you do that. It's what I did last year and it worked then but they change the rules a lot.
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>>2718298
Hire a part time nurse to care for you.
Get her to teach you things in your downtime
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>>2718343
Whew lad well at least you’re in thailand where they have pretty respectable healthcare. Go get the surgery done at bumrungrad or whatever in Bangkok and just take the L
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>>2718298
Why woul you wait for surgery when you get back to Vietnam? Just do it in thailand
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>>2718411
It's supposed to be cheaper in Vietnam and I live there and know people there.
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>>2718416
Yea soo uhhh here’s the thing collarbone Kenny…um… I’ve NEVER heard about Vietnams too notch healthcare, but I’ve definitely experienced in spades Thais reputable healthcare.

A broken collarbone isn’t something I would cheap out on, you fucking motorbike buck broken bin head. Pay up faggot and be healed
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>>2718512
>I know people
Yea I know a bunch of a fucking losers too, it doesn’t dictate my healthcare choices
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Speaking of which, how do you go about finding a good hospital and doctor in bangkok? Just walk in what the Internet says are reputable hospitals and ask about what I want and how much it would cost? That simple?

I've never used Thai healthcare but would like to get checked out and maybe some x-rays or whatever done. Make sure I'm not fucking my spine.
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>>2718513
What I mean is that I know Vietnamese people who can help me navigate the system and also help me while I'm recovering. I don't know anyone in Thailand. There are some good hospitals in Vietnam. I had surgery just earlier this year for a hernia and the whole experience was very first worldy, minus the high cost.
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>>2718232
I eat for like 1-3$ per meal there and it was GOOD food, full plates too
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>>2718699
Sure, if you weigh 120 pounds.
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>>2718699
I agree the food for those prices is delicious but I find the portions a bit small. This problem is easily and deliciously solved by adding a papaya salad to whatever else I'm ordering. It adds volume and it complements absolutely any other Thai food.
>>2718702
You know as well as I do that every 4chan user is fat. I'm 80kg and I'm the least fat poster on the site.
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>>2718704
I weigh 80kg, ran 3 times a week, lifted 4 times, and walked 10km everyday, and I had to order two helpings of the 120 baht pad kra pao, or whatever other dish, everywhere. I once ordered a burrito that cost 550 baht, that actually did fill me once, though. But the servings were always half of what I needed. You lazy ass twink.
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>>2718711
>ran 3 times a week, lifted 4 times, and walked 10km everyday
I believe the walking but nobody actually does that other shit. They just talk about doing it.
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How much time do I realistically need to properly explore Thailand? I'm thinking about going there closer to the new year, and will probably not have more than 2 or 3 weeks because being a wage slave sucks, but there's plenty of places I'd like to visit.
So far I'm thinking about
>Bangkok
I really enjoy modern cities in general, and would like to take a closer look at it, also there will probably be stuff to do on the new year even if it isn't big in SEA.
>Ayutthaya
>Phitsanulok
>Sukhothai
Should be self-explanatory, I'm very much a history nerd, and want to visit local museums and archeological parks
>Chiang Mai and Lamphun
Mostly for the hill tribes and Haripunchai museums and artifacts, also maybe hiking in local mountains and possibly going to the Thai-Burma-Laos border just for fun
>Khon Kaen and Udon Thani
Just to take a closer look at Isan, and visit Ban Chiang, and the dinosaur park in Khon Kaen (don't know if it's worth it, but seems interesting enough), maybe also a short stay in Nakhon Ratchasima and Phimai on the way back to Bangkok.
>Surat Thani and nearby provinces
Want to visit those Srivijaya ruins, and maybe go to Lang Rongrien from there.

No plans on going to the beaches and doing typical Thai tourist stuff outside of eating local food and maybe hanging out with locals in bars and such, but this still seems like way too much for three weeks, so I don't know if I should prioritize some stuff over the other. How's public transportation in Thailand? Are air flights the most viable options to move between regions, or are there decent overnight trains?
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>>2718702
>>2718711
This is definitely a fed. Lurkers: You can get good sized plates for like a dollar, not 4 dollars or 15 dollars like this officer is suggesting.
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>>2718711
You dumb ass gorilla. Those prices are way too high, you're probably eating near a tourist area. Krap pao moo with fried egg is normally 50-70 baht
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Anyone know if flooding in northern Thailand is bad enough that typical tourist excursions (elephant sanctuaries, mountain biking, kayaking) aren't going ahead at the moment?
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>>2718702
Just don't be a fat pig. I'm 184 and around 80kg and I do fine just eating two meals from street vendors or cheap restaurants plus sometimes a snack thrown in. My daily budget goes between 6-12. There's delicious food literally everywhere. I've probably spent more on beer and fags than food.
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>>2718711
This dude paid European prices for a burrito lol. What a retard.
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>>2718711
>a burrito that cost 550 baht
What the fuck was in the burrito? Shark fin and birds nest?
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Collarbone Kenny here. Got my visa approved and on my way back to Vietnam. Wish me luck and I wish you degenerates happy cooming.
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>>2718929
>smokes cigarettes
>lectures anyone about anything
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are there any actual saunas in pattaya? every advertised spa is actually massage or soapy succi boom boom. i want a heated room where i can sit actually sweating out of my sweat glands.
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>>2719066
https://www.yunomorionsen.com/pattaya/

i have this place on my list of places to go, so I haven't been there yet to speak of it
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has the 60 day visa exemption changed anything about the extension - border run circus ?
is it still easy to stay for 6 months+ by entering visa free, doing a 30 day extension at the immigration office, then a border run and another extension?
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I live in boston and enjoy riding motorcycles and soaking up the sun and trying tasty food. I can't do that in winter. I have like 4 weeks PTO that I can use right now. I want to go somewhere warm and nice and cheap and ride my bike to beat new england winter for 1 month of the year. Is thailand the place for that?
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>>2719194
Sure why not?
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Today I went to Oktoberfest and ate some grilled Crocodile
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>>2719380
>Leather bag, Blood, Fresh meat
>Should Try Before die!
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98% sure I contracted hiv from a bar girl on soi 6. I have all the symptoms. Never felt like this before. I will update you in the generals in the coming weeks.
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>>2719565
>HIV
>from a girl
I hope you're wrong and you're okay anon, and I mean that very sincerely, but keep it real with us here - it was a ladyboy, and you bottomed
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>>2719565
>I have all the symptoms
Please list your symptoms.
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>>2719573
Well I did get tricked by a ladyboy
He sucked my dick for 10 sec before I figured it out. That's it.

>>2719579
Rash. Lightheadedness. Mucosal lining change in my mouth. Every day there is a new symptom. I went to the emergency room and they confirmed I have a virus of some kind. I wond be able to confirm hiv for a few weeks even with a NAT test.
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>>2719565
your life is over
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>>2719580
If that's all you did with a ladyboy then you probably don't have HIV. It's hard to get it from pussy. You're in for a long few weeks waiting for your test result regardless of what anyone here says, but try to relax. Have a drink, get another bar girl, or if you're not in the mood for that, take a trip outside the cooming zone to see some nature or something. You're probably going to be okay.
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>>2719599
im praying all day every day. i know for sure the last girl i was with gave me something. i picked her up we boom boom no condom then AFTER she says "im sick". gee ok. the best case scenario is she gave me some tropical hantavirus that gives hiv symptoms. i hope that is what it is. the dermatologist i went to said many viruses can give petechia rashes.

im gonna revert to inceldom for the next three weeks then get another blood test and hopefully go back in on halloween.

will update.

over and out.
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>>2719606
All the best brother. Temptation always crawls inside me when i go to bangkok but your situation is exactly why i hold myself. A moment of pleasure is not worth a lifetime of regret.
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>>2719565
>>2719606
No fucking way.
Keep us posted.

>>2719637
I'm going to be feeling even more paranoid now. Maybe I will look more into that prep stuff before I so much as walk into nana plaza.
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>>2719565
Ladyboy connoisseur here. I struggled to get PrEP from my doctor because she said it was unnecessary if I was sleeping with women. There was an uncomfortable moment where I had to admit I sleep with ladyboys and I could sense an unmistakeable negative judgement from her. She subscribed the PrEP at that point. The point of my blog-post is that it is very unlikely you would get HIV from a biological woman and hopefully you just have some exotic flu/virus
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>>2719655
>and I could sense an unmistakeable negative judgement from her
She's just shitter-shattered that another virile young man has realized that ladyboys/trannies are women+ and that she's not needed.
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>>2719655
Could have just said I'm bi and said nothing else
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>>2719659
Bi is gay. Fucking ladyboys and getting fucked by them and taking their loads is straight. Anon didn't want to give the wrong impression.
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>>2719659
I actually wasn't expecting her to give me the third-degree about it, I thought it would be just a simple prescription, but during her interrogation where she listed all the info she needed to know about my sexual history, I panicked and spilled my spaghetti. You also have to get a blood test to check your kidney functions and that you are HIV negative, for anyone who is interested
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>>2711673
First time going to Thailand. Planning on my first time smoking mj - any advices? What if my hotel prohibit smoking, where can I safely smoke then? What type of grass should I buy to not to get too excited? What's normal price for a joint? About 90 bat for 1g?
I'm 28.
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>>2719671
Visiting Pattaya btwhkk2p
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Is Bangkok really finished post Covid? Can someone who isn’t a tallfag chadlite chime in? I really love Thailand and I don’t want to cope in Phillipines.
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>>2719669
Why would she hesitate to give it to you? I don't get it.
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>>2719674
It's generally overkill if you're just sleeping with women, and I think it's not quite known what the long-term effects of taking the drug are, and you have to get tests beforehand. I think she thought I was just a general party boy normie who might sleep with a couple women, I then had to reveal I am a giga-coomer to get her attention
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>>2719671
only smoke a little on your first joint, it's really easy to consume more than you'd be comfortable with as a brand new smoker, and that's how people get panic attacks and get traumatized off weed forever
just take a couple puffs at first, then wait for the effect to settle in before deciding if you want to keep going right away or if you're good for the time being
if you're feeling like you overdid it, just eat some food to make the high go away quicker

as for where to smoke, if you're not confident in your hotel balcony, you can just sit down in any of the dispensaries, the vast majority of them act kinda like coffee shops where you can sit down, consume your weed and order drinks and snacks

as for the price, you'd only find dogshit shwag for 100baht/g like the stuff they call "thai stick" that's full of seeds
in general the prices are pretty high in thailand compared to other countries where weed is legal, and even more so in touristy places like pattaya where they'll really try to charge as high as they can get away with

the flip side is that there is some genuinely really good weed over there if you go to good dispensaries, even if it's expensive
the last time I was in pattaya my favorites were the "pirate island" dispensary on south pattaya road because the owners were really chill and the weed was decently priced compared to most other dispensaries (a quick google search shows that it may have relocated to jomtien since), and "granddaddy house" in pratumnak for higher quality (but expensive) strains
also that last one is right by yinyom beach so you can go enjoy the sunset and the sound of the waves after getting high

last little tip, you can invest in a cheap dry herb vape before flying to thailand, it'll make consuming in your hotel way more discreet than smoking joints, pretty much undetectable if you have a balcony or a window
or you can just buy edibles but idk if I would recommend that to a first time smoker
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>>2719669
That was some doctor in Thailand or in the US?

>>2719656
Probably this desu. Women seething.

>>2719675
This is sounding complicated. I thought I could just walk into a pharmacy which has it and say gimme. I guess this isn't the case?
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>>2719753
This was in the west. I am not sure about Thailand but I think you need a prescription there as well. If you go to a sexual health clinic it might be a simple appointment and they will prescribe for you without having to go through a blood test like I did in the west. I am not sure if my doctor was being overly cautious.

You perhaps may also sweet-talk a chemist into giving you PrEP without a prescription if they just want money/don't care, I did this with antibiotics once in Chiang Mai
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>>2719382
>what is wrong with snake blood???
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>>2719705
thanks man! Will definitely us your advices! Cheers!



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