Been thinking of moving to this area. What is it like?
Would have been great to move there before 2015 when houses were $250k. Now it’s California prices for a shithole gambling city. Tahoe area and surrounding mountains are nice. Reno itself is mostly a dump. West side of town is nice, some parts of Sparks are nice.
>>2714355You'll get mixed opinions but it's a cool place if you like outdoor shit and motorsports. If you don't and the Sierra Nevada doesn't interest you then you probably won't find it exciting.The climate is colder than you think and it's windy. Also dry.It's pretty white. Used to be poor white trash but gentrification is happening fast.Reno feels like a medium size Colorado city like fort Collins or Boise that just happens to have some casinos. It's not a casino town like Vegas. There's still food and drink bargains too, cheap buffets and shit, like Vegas used to have.
Tahoe was extremely crowded and overdeveloped when I visited this July
>>2714355It's actually really beautiful and underrated, the women are top tier
>>2714355good thread, I think about moving to Reno every so often for tax purposes
>>2714387had a chance to move there 10 years ago and didn’t. I regret it badly now. Reno has improved significantly and property values have doubled
>>2714392Same. I knew some people who moved there. They did really well purchasing a mobile home on a couple acres of property and then selling that for a shit ton more to a developer.
I’d move to Carson City if I had to live up there. Quiet smaller town close enough to Reno, only 30min from the airport
>>2714358Fort Collins and Boise are both far nicer than Reno and always will be. Legal gambling makes your state a shithole
>>2714358That all sounds pretty good
>>2714355good place to set up a c company and hide your money from the feds and banking system
>>2714749Who the hell has that amount of cash in this day and age? I barely make 60k
>>2714776Everyone on /trv/ is a crypto millionaire. You’re not? Embarrassing.
I've ridden Amtrak across northern Nevada, also drove US-50 across the state just as the COVID lockdowns were hitting. It's starkly desolate once you leave the Reno metro area. If you're a self-reliant solo adventurer who wants to get as far from humanity as possible and face the challenges of nature, all you need is a reliable 4x4 and you can live out your dream.
This is what nearly the whole region looks like. Sagebrush flats divided by north-south mountain ranges. Some of the dirt roads don't see a single car pass by on the average day.
>>2714357A good argument could be made that the mismanagement of California has ruined every major city in the west.
>>2714863If you aren't from the western US, the emptiness of middle of nowhere Nevada is something to behold. It's an unnerving, post-apocalyptic landscape. No wonder people think they see aliens.The Reno-Carson City area is actually pretty lush with a lot of forested land around it but if you go any direction from there except west it looks like this.
So is there like anything worthwhile seeing outside of town besides Lake Tahoe?
Nevada has mountains?
>>2714907Yeah, Virginia City is kinda cool. If you go further into the sierra there's a lot to do, Bodie, Mono Lake, Yellowstone, not that far away. Pic is pyramid lake. Kind of a cool spot, ruined by the fact it's on an indian reservation. >>2714908It's the most mountainous state in the country (yes really, look it up). You don't hear about it because nobody goes there.
>>2714910>ruined by the fact it's on an indian reservation.What's wrong with the indians?
>>2714957Have you ever been to one?They're usually complete dumps. Including this one, they ruin what would otherwise could have been a great national or state park, run cows on the lakeshore, ruining the beauty of the place. I did swim in it anyway. You can't go to the east side for ancestor spirt reasons. You're also supposed to pay them like $5 to go to the lake but they're so lazy nobodys around to collect it so I never did.
>>2714863>>2714862stunning
>>2714907If you like history then Genoa is nearby, oldest town in Nevada, Carson City has a few museums and mints you can go to
>>2714863Why do I feel homesick for land I've never been to?
>>2715060>GenoaIs an absolutely beautiful place
>>2715272
>>2715273Mormon station in particular is a great place to visit
>>2715274https://youtu.be/9S4CM81opG8?si=9O90GPWmykEPe-BB&t=64
>>2714910I think you mean Yosemite because Yellowstone is nowhere near.
>>2715293Here it is during winter, with the snowpacked mountainshttps://youtu.be/fuqzW7mvGQ8?si=y5kxT6Zv-Zy8y_27
>>2715071Are you white? Your Indo-Aryan genes have a deep, ancient longing for the open steppe on horseback
>>2715336It must be deep genetics. As sure as I am that any wild animal would easily defeat me, I feel I belong there.
>>2715336Are Indians aryan?
>>2715345Yes
>>2714355How are the taxes in Nv? I know there's no income tax but do they get you somewhere else?
>>2714355Fuck off we're full
>>2715406Nevada charges an annual fee for every slot machine, roulette wheel, etc. operated in the state. Then, they soak the people who come there with a 15% "room occupancy tax" on their hotel bill. Sales tax, liquor tax, gasoline tax, are higher than the national average but not excessively so and still lower than commiefornia.So it works out pretty good for locals. State services aren't great though. Nevada doesn't do a lot to fund things like parks and education. Schools are some of the worst performing in the country and the people who grow up there are dumb AF. The upside is obviously keeping more of your money and paying less towards muh gibs.
>>2715551I see, positives and negatives
>>2715551Legal gambling means your state will always be full of hedonistic low quality human trash with a handful of wealthy people
>>2715626Spoken like a poor person, simply live in a gated community. The poor do a good job of segregating themselves from their betters.
>>2715866>bro just pay $1400/mo in HOA fees lol Yeah, nah. I’ll just not live in a shithole state with legal gambling
>>2715869With online sports betting, you already do.
>>2715886My state doesn’t have online sports betting
>>2715869Like I said, pauper. No money, no honey.
>>2715904There's endless offshore sites offering sports betting to USA players. My state just got legal sports betting 2 years ago and I've been betting online for almost 2 decades
>>2715984In person sports gambling is absolutely one of the best things about Nevada. It's pretty rad to just walk into an actual casino and cash a bet you placed months ago on who would win the superbowl. Ask for drink tickets. If you win big they'll give you comps too like free meals hoping you'll stick around.
>>2715987It was even better before the casinos figured out they could charge you for seats for literally any big sporting event.
>>2714862>>2714863Everything west of the rockies has infinitely more SOVL than the entire rest of the USA
>>2714908Nevada literally means "snowy" Even Vegas is surrounded by mountains. Everywhere in the western US is near mountains
>>2715987I'm an avid sports bettor. I legit want to go back to the pre-legalization days where only NV had sportsbooks. It used to be fuckin magical to walk into a big casino sportsbook during the NFL playoffs or world series or march madness or whatever. Now it's saturated with ads every 30 seconds during sports broadcasts.
>>2716004I'm probably teetering on what would be considered a gambling addict and i agree with you. I even had a profitable year last year sports betting and I get sick of the non-stop ads and segments and "HERE'S MINA KIMES' 5 LEG CANT MISS PARLAY". I like my gambling seedy and these companies are selling normies a pipe dream. Also there's a reason these guys push parlay betting so much!!! I can't stress that enough!They really need to regulate the ads and access to this shit or every other zoomer is going to become a degenerate problem gambler.Also, fuck my local casino book. They've become stingy as shit with the free bets and reload bonuses.
>>2716025I post on the /bet/ general on /sp/ fairly often and those retards are all parlay addicts. One Polish guy gets angry when people tell him not to parlay. At my local casino whenever I make a bet NFL Sundays before kickoff, every single person in line is making multiple parlay wagers. They take 10 fuckin minutes at the window because they have a ton of 8-leg parlays
>>2716028Fucking hell... I was at the casino the other day sitting at the bar and this black couple pulled up two chairs to the betting kiosk and pecked away like they were playing slots. They sat there for at least 45 minutes making stupid parlay bets. I'll make maybe 1 parlay for every 25 straight bets I make... and that's usually a hail mary after going damn near busto.Man, if you're gonna do that, just use the draftkings app on your phone.
>>2716032I'm probably a huge racist but I've had this exact experience a hundred times at sportsbook kiosks. If I see a black dude using the kiosk I'm getting in line behind a different kiosk with a longer line because I know he'll be making 20 bets with 5 legs each
>>2716003>Montana = Mount Ana>Colorado = colored red>Oregon = ore goneWhat other hidden secrets lie in the western states?
>>2716002the Rockies divide the country in half nearly exa ctly, so that's not saying much
>>2716116Lol not close. Maybe 1/3 is west of the Rockies
>>2716167Wrong, BTFO by AI
>>2716045California was in a spanish book, supposedly it was the name of an Island that had tons of gold and fertile soil. The Spanish thought Cali was originally an Island so they named it after the book
>>2716239Why didn't they just saw it off into the ocean once they realized their mistake?
>>2716239The name most likely derived from the mythical island of California in the fictional story of Queen Calafia, as recorded in a 1510 work The Adventures of Esplandián by Garci Rodríguez de Montalvo.[23] Queen Calafia's kingdom was said to be a remote land rich in gold and pearls, inhabited by beautiful Black women who wore gold armor and lived like Amazons.
>>2716309Huh, neat
>>2714355Aside from Reno are there any other cities up there? I mean there's Sparks but I consider that an extension of Reno
>>2716830Carson city. South Lake Tahoe. That’s about it besides little 2-stoplight towns like Minden
>>2714355I had to spend a fair amount of time in Reno for work for a couple of years, and I came to really like the place, which once upon a time I called “agreeably seedy.” It’s been gentrifying in fits and starts for a long time now, to the benefit of the restaurant and bar scenes, at least, but it remains fairly weird and comparatively inexpensive, with a pretty nice natural setting and outdoorsy stuff within easy reach. Alongside the sleazy bits, there are hippie and redneck/libertarian/doomsday-prepper/methbilly populations intermingling with green-yuppie-liberal transplants, keeping the place IMO pretty interesting. A green yuppie liberal transplant friend of mine who moved there from the Bay Area years ago has called it “high desert Portland,” which isn’t all that accurate, but there are common threads for sure.
>>2716914>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords to describe peopleThis is your brain on Reddit
>>2716920With the possible exception of ‘methbilly,’ I don’t think I used a single buzzword above, just common nouns and adjectives based on my own first-hand impressions. And I’ve never been to Reddit. Disagree or refute me if you need to, but mostly go fuck yourself.
>>2716914I appreciate your contribution and utterly despise the way you write. Jesus Christ stop being such a fucking faggot
>>2716964You're a green yuppie liberal transplant locust from California. you're Reddit by proxy and you ruin every place you touch. GTFO out of my city
>>2716830Carson and Lake Tahoe, plus Fernley and Virginia City
I'm going next weekend. Haven't been to Reno in almost a decade. Is it really better than it used to be? Town was a dump last time I visited
>>2718632Slightly better, residential areas cleaned up. Main casino street has police presence
>>2717088>You're a green yuppie liberal transplant locust from California. I’m actually not, but OK. I never lived there full-time. And my friend who has moved there isn’t a Californian, although she did move via the Bay Area—she’s from the middle of nowhere in Vermont, of French Canadian redneck heritage, and only went to CA reluctantly for work. She’s very green, but she never drank the CA Kool-Aid. She’s mostly just very good at selling/marketing organic shit.>you're Reddit by proxy I mean, maybe? I never got Reddit. What little I’ve seen of it suggests that it’s all over the place politically. I don’t know why people here are so obsessed with it.>and you ruin every place you touch. I’ve never ruined anywhere. The only downsides I’ve seen to Californians moving to NV has maybe been a contribution to rising property prices; they haven’t changed the politics, unless you think they’ve been working on it since before you were born—Nevada has been electing democrats to Congress and other offices since at least the 1980s. And even you will probably admit that food has gotten better in Reno in your lifetime.>GTFO out of my cityDon’t worry. You can definitely keep it.
>>2718717>it’s all over the place politicallyMaybe in that they can't decide if the tax rate should be 100% or 101%.
>>2718750>it’s all over the place politically>Maybe in that they can't decide if the tax rate should be 100% or 101%.If you say so, man. I remember some batshit Jerry Springer-esque fights about weird families and etiquette, which seemed pretty neutral politically. But I don’t go there.
>>2718750Ok hillbilly, whatever you say
>>2714357It's fucking wild how expensive NoNV has gotten. I looked really seriously at Carson City/Valley a few years back but it's absolutely out of control. I just got home from Bend, OR an hour ago and everybody there was talking about how expensive that area has gotten, but it's no more expensive than Carson City (actually might be cheaper now) and absolutely mogs it.
>>2719193What's expensive to you? 200k seems reasonable
>>2716309>inhabited by beautiful Black women who wore gold armor and lived like Amazons.huh, just like current day california
>>2719261Where? I couldn't find much in the way of decent places under 450k or so in the Carson City area.
>>2719281You're right, looks like prices have jumped up 80k since I last saw the market, still there are a few decent looking homes near airport rd, for about 280 ~ 290k
>>2719193California expats. Many many remote workers left NorCal and moved across the border for the tax benefits
>>2719357Yeah, and from what I've heard a lot of it is Bay Area tech types buying everything in Tahoe up (either for remote work or as vacation places/AirBnBs) and pushing out all the locals, who are now moving into Carson since it's commutable.
>>2714355I stayed at that hotel in the middle in the late 90s. It wasn't as grand as a Vegas mega resort but it was kinda cool, had a giant arcade. There was really nothing to do in Reno, we drove to Tahoe and it was beautiful there.
>>2714355Pretty good. very good /out/, decent opportunities enough
>>2721149it snows in reno?
It's pretty nice here.
>>2721230Yes. Mostly on the west side, but there are some days it snows everywhere
>>2719280If only.
>>2714357fpbp. Reno and Vegas were affordable like 15 years ago after the last housing market crash. Those days are long gone. It was only a matter of time before Californians and other tourist trash drove up housing prices.
>>2714536Fort Collins is a tranny shithole. Boise is nicer yes but Reno has more job opportunities
Is there even a single town over 30k population in the entire country not declared to be shit now due to Californiana and gentrification? You see this dismissal on every single thread.
>>2724019Californian expats have ruined the western US. They’re locusts
>>2724019Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas
>>2724019The next wave of “cool” towns will be midwest cities like Detroit that had a mass exodus and then start to attract hipsters
>>2724019US cities work as a speculative asset.>Minorities>Poverty>Hipsters / second sons>Petit bourgeois / BoBos>Tech / finance money / condosMove and repeat. I'm banking on West Virginia becoming the new Pacific Northwest in a decade or so. If I'm right my retirement will be early and comfortable.
>>2726632>You'll never live in NYC / Chicago / SanFran as a hipster in the early 90's
Meanwhile, in Las Vegas, Delano will become the W Las Vegas. I’m surprised how many MGM properties actually fit Marriott brands and how well they do (1 luxury collection, 2 autograph collections, 1 tribute portfolio)
>>2726680And if you're wrong?
>>2726685And that's a good thing!
>>2715551yeah my aunt and uncle frequently complained that it's a bad place to try and raise a family in
>>2726680>Im banking on west virginia becoming the PNW in a decade Bless your heart
>>2724019Everyone said Californians were going to be shitty and lame but check the election guess what, Idaho, Tennessee, Texas, I don't know if anything else whatever basically all voted Red anyway decisively with ease.>>2726680I feel like Charleston, Savannah could be the next big thing. Close proximity to Atlanta but nice beaches.
How is the crime there? Is the police department well funded?
>>2731861Yep. They're top notch.
>>2731870kek, forgot about these bastards
Im so tempted to move there, I live in vegas rn rent free and in reno there are decent apartments for only 1200-1400, so so fuckin tempted. but living rent free my entire 20s has me spoiled. for reference I make 50k before taxes remote. make me do it /trv/
>>2714355Reno feels like a cheaper, dirtier version of Vegas. Only spent about a week total there. Saw some STRANGE creatures skulking around Sands Regency at 3am after a 50 hour drive from Florida.Burning man is fun once or twice, and is right up the road the week before labor day.
>>2731788Providence RI is gonna go the same way
>>2733289I'd rather be disemboweled with a rusty knife than attend burning man. The most insufferable, self-important collection of millennial scum on the planet
>>2733308eh there's no shortage of the self-important pretentious types there, plenty of other cool people tho, the former are just the loud ones you see on social media. The setting itself weeds out a lot of the pansies, one of the harshest environments in north america.A good metric for how cool you are is how quickly strangers offer you drugs on a night out. Might not be your scene.
>>2733320forgot pic
>>2733320Again, I'd rather try to gather my spilling intestines than go to burning man. The worst people in society use drugs.
>>2731861Eh you have some gamblers caiusing problems but overall it's alright
>>2733291I would be interested in hearing your predictions and thoughts. I was there once for work during covid but did not get a feel for the place.
>>2731870kek
>>2714358sounds pretty comfy desu
>>2715353>tamils btfo
>>2731861gambling areas attract low quality people and have higher rates of theft and violent crime
