How is the city these days? I'm going to be there for a week or so in November in a nice hotel downtown. Used to visit regularly, but have only been once since the pandemic, in mid-2022, and it was in pretty rough shape.
A former Chief Executive and Head of State of the most powerful nation on Earth said that it had been burned down and destroyed and that illegal immigrants had eaten all the cats and that they all had an particular phone app to connect them with Kamala Harris, current Vice President of the United States of America.
>>2717879Thanks so much for the helpful post anon.
>>2717844Haven't been there but was thinking about it at one point. Homeless camp site tracker: https://www.portland.gov/homelessness-impact-reduction/news/2022/12/23/city-announces-new-homeless-encampment-data-dashboard
>>2717844A shithole like Seattle. But, Portland has better entertainment, food scene, and nightlife.
>>2718328Everywhere in America is a shithole
>>2717844hipsters
>>2717844It's fine. anyone that says otherwise either doesn't live here or is from somewhere like Lake O and only commutes in for events. The bar scene is great, if you're looking for relaxed places the best spots are on the east side in my opinion. B-Side and The Hungry Tiger both have cheap beer, tigers got pool. Upscale stuff in downtown's pretty good too. Go to Jakes Famous Crawfish for expensive but good seafood. Hit the parks, walk town. Enjoy it. Waterfronts a bit of a shithole but if you can ignore a tweaker you'll love it.
>>2721282i live in spokane, wa- visited portland and seattle for a week recently. was honestly taken aback at how few tweakers i saw compared to where i'm from.
>>2721282Portland was the best city in America until about 2015 and has gone steadily downhill since. Still, it's a great city and a lot of fun if you avoid the tent cities.
It's much better now.
Thanks all, really looking forward to the trip now, and excited to get back to the restaurants up there; Portland has always (well, for the past 25 years or so) been one of the great food cities in the world. Will be visiting from San Diego where we have a bunch of homeless tweakers in parts of our downtown, so no issues or worries with seeing a couple in PDX provided they aren't just stabbing people in the middle of the day (like I saw in 2021 up there on the edge of old town).
>>2721357What's the best American city in 2024?
>>2721282>If you complain about schizo homeless you must be from Lake O...which means you're soft or something because your town doesnt have roaming schizos...take THAT>>2722491Not sure about great food cities of "the world" but its a top 5 in the US for sure
>>2722540So true, they have restaurants that advertise all the employees have HIV or Hep B that kind of experience is unfortunately hard to find in most cities
>>2722534My favoritesDurango ColoradoSan Clemente CaliforniaTelluride ColoradoJackson Hole WyomingCharleston SCSouth Lake Tahoe
>>2717844it's better than it was back then but it still is pretty weird in some areas. that being said, most of the rhetoric is overblown or perpetuated by people who have never even been here. My biggest problem is that it's so fucking expensive. and i'm an engineer.
>>2723028Portland is so bad the population is declining despite what these Oregon Tourism Board posts want you to believe it's an unsafe shithole full of homeless camps, used drug needles, street shitting and machete weilding craziesThe head of Oregon forest department just got suspended because some blue haired lesbian accused him of hiring based on merit. That's Portland in a nutshell
>>2717844>How is the city these days? I'm going to be there for a week or so in November in a nice hotel downtown. Used to visit regularly, but have only been once since the pandemic, in mid-2022, and it was in pretty rough shape.I live here, been here for about 7 years. I live in SE portland and ever since the scamdemic I have fucking loathed Portland. Chances are your fancy hotel will have drug addicts shooting up in front of it. Also Trump will likely win so if you’re here in November all of downtown will be completely destroyed again just like when fetanyl floyd was martyred by a cop just trying to do his job. City completely sucks dick.
>>2717844left halfway through covid. never went back. white guilt capital of the world
>>2721320went to college with a girl from spokane, she always mentioned it had a lot of meth heads. idk i visited spokane twice and thought it was beautiful along with coors de lane. i believe spokane has the highest average height in the country, which makes sense considering the basketball culture, but doesn't make sense bc there's so few negroes. tall white basketball and meth? is that what goes on there?
>>2722302Better than what? Dehli India?
>>2717844Hasn't gotten much better, especially downtown. Eastside is still okay, and the hills are of course clean. But downtown near the Chinatown area and parts of the waterfront are still terrible.Don't come out to Gresham or you'll die.
>>2721282I was at Hungry Tiger last night lol. It was okay, half their seating is outdoors with smokers.Bars that kick ass in Portland:Horse Brass PubHome A BarBaerlicAny Rogue barTreebeard's TaphouseLots of good izakaya if you're a fucking weeb like meRamen Ryoma in downtownFuck McMenamins don't bother with them
>>2723334How far out does the Chinatown/old town badness extend at this point? In 2021 it was pretty bad all the way to Washington, but now it looks like anything south of Burnside is fine, but not sure if that's the case.
>>2722540>Not sure about great food cities of "the world" but its a top 5 in the US for surePast a certain level of quality it is more whether the food is to your tastes or not. For me, Portland is hitting the quality level at all price points, and also is right to my tastes, from cheap street food from food carts, to casual restaurants and mid-range stuff, up to fancy tasting menu restaurants. I suppose they don't have any great 'formal dining' dress code places, but honestly I've dined at dozens of Michelin-starred places (including half a dozen or so that had 3 stars), and *for my tastes* I'd take Le Pigeon over any of them.
>>2723371That's accurate. I lived near PSU for a few years and walked around there a lot. The waterfront park is somewhat decent again but stay away during the nightAfter Trump wins in November its all going back up in flames anyway so who cares.
A lot of NW and SW is still a toilet. Especially chinatown, the stretch of w burnside, and near the portland art museum.Still has it's charm on stretches on the east side. Great food scene.
>>2721357I would say it started in 2008, when Obama became president and the occupy wall street encampments popped up. Portland was absolutely beautiful, safe, and at its peak in 1998-2008 period.
>>2723259>i believe spokane has the highest average height in the country, which makes sense considering the basketball culture, but doesn't make sense bc there's so few negroes. jesus i forget how intensely autistic you people are.
>>2723712It's not autism it's incelism. Incels spend their entire life on incel forums memorizing retarded shit like `blacks are taller than whites' which has no basis in reality. I'm not sure why these losers are on travel forums when they obviously never go outside but they are always incelsplaining like experts on every topic even women when they have never touched one or Spokane when they have never been there
>>2723032my guy, i live here. the homeless problem is bad and i hate it but i think you'd have to be a complete limp dicked pussy boy to actually feel like anything extreme is going to happen to you. i walk all over the place. sure, you have to be aware and sometimes feel on edge. but guess what retard. that's how the world works sometimes.
>>2722611>Telluride Coloradokek just a one horse tourist town in the middle of nowhere with extreme wealth and everyone else working for peanuts to support them. Yeah lovely place to be.
>>2724871>that's how the world works sometimesTell me you are a liberal without saying you are a liberal
>>2725109What is peanuts? Guess I could probably look up how much people make but not sure if I trust stats.
>>2721357PDX wasn't the best in anything. It was the best city if you were a broke underemployed 20 something, because it's a city where people go to give up on life. No one ever made anything of themselves living in Portland.
>>2725155What a silly post I literally tripled my income living and working in Portland but wish I had left 3 years sooner. I still go back and visit friends a few times a year. Great city unless you’re a chud incel
>>2725177Your outlier experience isn't a reflection of the reality of Portland. That's like saying that North Dakota is an economically vibrant place, because someone without a high school degree can make six figure income working 100+ hours a week at the oilfields.
>>2724871>my guy>limp dickedLmao, this reminds me of that white dudes for harris ad where they were all crossdressing homosexuals larping as real tough normal men. Libtards are so out of touch they dont comprehend how normal people think or act. Heres a clue libtard normal people dont want to visit a city full of homeless encampments, machete welding diversity, people wearing speedos with dildos attached to their heads and crazed blue haired lesbians with nose ringsIf you want to attract tourists to your shithole either clean it up or at least hire a copywriter who doesn't sound like a cuck from r/polyamory giving me the heebie jeebies
>>2725200that would be correct though>>2725109I mean yeah it is a lovely place to be. tough to make a living and raise a family but this is /trv/ not /life/
>>2723765It's not an incel exclusive behavior. It's NEETs and societal losers who are frequently on travel forums giving takes on places they have never been to and experiences they've never personally experienced. The various travel and regional subreddits are full of people who are clearly just talking out of their asses and bullshitting one another all for imaginary internet points.
>>2725177>I literally tripled my income living and working in Portland but wish I had left 3 years sooner. I still go back and visit friends a few times a year. Great city unless you’re a chud incelYou’re not wrong, but big picture, you’re an exception. I lived there for 10 years, and the city has its charms, but overall, it’s a place where mediocrity is championed and many, many people simply live in the present. It’s a great place to just unplug and relax and enjoy the good food, beer and bars, smoke weed, and do /out/ shit. But in no way is it a place people go to be a success in life.
>>2717844Avoid Chinatown on the west side, avoid the Lloyd and Hollywood districts on the east side. There are a lot of good restaurants on both side of the river. What makes you want to visit?
>>2726656Food, drinks, and unplugging for a bit. I've always loved the just overall chill vibe of the place.
>>2726707Portland is a great place for that. I’m no hipster but it’s undeniably kino to sit in a coffee shop on a dreary, gray, wet day and read a book. You’ll meet all types of people there. Just don’t mention politics unless you’re far left wing
It's a left coast shithole, prepare to get robbed
>>2726712There’s almost no crime in Portland besides hobos shitting on the street
>>2726711And then you step outside into a pile of human shit and get stabbed by a junkie.kino, amirite?
Portland is so fucking boring. Not even about the politics. It's just dull. There isn't really much to see. Even the official tourist route cites visiting a bookstore and eating doughnuts. Place for millennials to think they're so cool and edgy by going on fent.
>>2726727https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/capitol-highway-shooting-islamic-school-noureddine-dib/283-b96e322f-5cac-4428-bad3-5d953d038995Lmao portland isn't boring they imported thousands of violent criminals
>>2726716There is constant crime, it's just not reported anymore because the police do nothing. Vehicles are constantly broken into and dismantled. Property crimes are commonplace. Feral homeless are violent towards each other and anyone else who is around them.
>>2726741>Property crimes are commonplaceThis. I moved out of Portland in 2013 and two months before we left, our house was broken into by junkies. Took the police a few hours to come by, and when they did, they just shrugged their shoulders and couldn't have cared less. Can't imagine that's become better since.
>>2726725No. That (1) would not be kino, and (2) doesn't happen in Portland outside of Chinatown anyways.
>>2726741>constant crimeThere’s really not. Stop browsing /pol/ retard
>>2726877Violent crime against randos? No there's not. But anon said>Vehicles are constantly broken into and dismantled. Property crimes are commonplace. Feral homeless are violent towards each other and anyone else who is around themWhich is objectively true
https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/17cdcd2/target_says_3_portland_stores_closing_due_to/>Target says 3 Portland stores closing due to crime; Police records don’t match upYep all the businesses are closing due to crime, but when you report any crimes from rape to robbery the police don't show up because they are under orders from the mayor to pretend there is no crime....it's a death spiral
>>2726891Target frequently will blame external circumstances (mainly crime) to cover up bad expansion/management decisions. I wouldn't put that much stock in what they say.
>>2726727seattle is the same. this place is dreary and boring. hightlight of my day is going to a random coffee shop and getting served coffee by the most ridiculous looking liberal freaks that america can conjure up
>>2726727No it’s not. Excellent music scene, nice nature in town and nearby, great coffee and beer and food. Portland is a fun town