A former Chief Executive and Head of State of the most powerful nation on Earth said that it had been burned down and destroyed and that illegal immigrants had eaten all the cats and that they all had an particular phone app to connect them with Kamala Harris, current Vice President of the United States of America.

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>>2717879
Thanks so much for the helpful post anon.

>>2717844
Haven't been there but was thinking about it at one point.

Homeless camp site tracker:
https://www.portland.gov/homelessness-impact-reduction/news/2022/12/23/city-announces-new-homeless-encampment-data-dashboard

>>2717844

A shithole like Seattle. But, Portland has better entertainment, food scene, and nightlife.

>>2718328
Everywhere in America is a shithole

>>2717844
hipsters

>>2717844
It's fine. anyone that says otherwise either doesn't live here or is from somewhere like Lake O and only commutes in for events. The bar scene is great, if you're looking for relaxed places the best spots are on the east side in my opinion. B-Side and The Hungry Tiger both have cheap beer, tigers got pool. Upscale stuff in downtown's pretty good too. Go to Jakes Famous Crawfish for expensive but good seafood. Hit the parks, walk town. Enjoy it. Waterfronts a bit of a shithole but if you can ignore a tweaker you'll love it.

>>2721282
i live in spokane, wa- visited portland and seattle for a week recently. was honestly taken aback at how few tweakers i saw compared to where i'm from.

>>2721282
Portland was the best city in America until about 2015 and has gone steadily downhill since. Still, it's a great city and a lot of fun if you avoid the tent cities.

It's much better now.

Thanks all, really looking forward to the trip now, and excited to get back to the restaurants up there; Portland has always (well, for the past 25 years or so) been one of the great food cities in the world. Will be visiting from San Diego where we have a bunch of homeless tweakers in parts of our downtown, so no issues or worries with seeing a couple in PDX provided they aren't just stabbing people in the middle of the day (like I saw in 2021 up there on the edge of old town).

>>2721357
What's the best American city in 2024?

>>2721282
>If you complain about schizo homeless you must be from Lake O...which means you're soft or something because your town doesnt have roaming schizos...take THAT

>>2722491
Not sure about great food cities of "the world" but its a top 5 in the US for sure

>>2722540
So true, they have restaurants that advertise all the employees have HIV or Hep B that kind of experience is unfortunately hard to find in most cities

>>2722534
My favorites
Durango Colorado
San Clemente California
Telluride Colorado
Jackson Hole Wyoming
Charleston SC
South Lake Tahoe

>>2717844
it's better than it was back then but it still is pretty weird in some areas. that being said, most of the rhetoric is overblown or perpetuated by people who have never even been here.
My biggest problem is that it's so fucking expensive. and i'm an engineer.

>>2723028
Portland is so bad the population is declining despite what these Oregon Tourism Board posts want you to believe it's an unsafe shithole full of homeless camps, used drug needles, street shitting and machete weilding crazies

The head of Oregon forest department just got suspended because some blue haired lesbian accused him of hiring based on merit. That's Portland in a nutshell

>>2717844
>How is the city these days? I'm going to be there for a week or so in November in a nice hotel downtown. Used to visit regularly, but have only been once since the pandemic, in mid-2022, and it was in pretty rough shape.
I live here, been here for about 7 years. I live in SE portland and ever since the scamdemic I have fucking loathed Portland. Chances are your fancy hotel will have drug addicts shooting up in front of it. Also Trump will likely win so if you’re here in November all of downtown will be completely destroyed again just like when fetanyl floyd was martyred by a cop just trying to do his job. City completely sucks dick.

>>2717844
left halfway through covid. never went back. white guilt capital of the world

>>2721320
went to college with a girl from spokane, she always mentioned it had a lot of meth heads. idk i visited spokane twice and thought it was beautiful along with coors de lane. i believe spokane has the highest average height in the country, which makes sense considering the basketball culture, but doesn't make sense bc there's so few negroes. tall white basketball and meth? is that what goes on there?

>>2722302
Better than what? Dehli India?

>>2717844
Hasn't gotten much better, especially downtown. Eastside is still okay, and the hills are of course clean. But downtown near the Chinatown area and parts of the waterfront are still terrible.

Don't come out to Gresham or you'll die.

>>2721282
I was at Hungry Tiger last night lol. It was okay, half their seating is outdoors with smokers.

Bars that kick ass in Portland:
Horse Brass Pub
Home A Bar
Baerlic
Any Rogue bar
Treebeard's Taphouse

Lots of good izakaya if you're a fucking weeb like me
Ramen Ryoma in downtown

Fuck McMenamins don't bother with them

>>2723334
How far out does the Chinatown/old town badness extend at this point? In 2021 it was pretty bad all the way to Washington, but now it looks like anything south of Burnside is fine, but not sure if that's the case.

>>2722540
>Not sure about great food cities of "the world" but its a top 5 in the US for sure
Past a certain level of quality it is more whether the food is to your tastes or not. For me, Portland is hitting the quality level at all price points, and also is right to my tastes, from cheap street food from food carts, to casual restaurants and mid-range stuff, up to fancy tasting menu restaurants. I suppose they don't have any great 'formal dining' dress code places, but honestly I've dined at dozens of Michelin-starred places (including half a dozen or so that had 3 stars), and *for my tastes* I'd take Le Pigeon over any of them.

>>2723371
That's accurate. I lived near PSU for a few years and walked around there a lot. The waterfront park is somewhat decent again but stay away during the night

After Trump wins in November its all going back up in flames anyway so who cares.

A lot of NW and SW is still a toilet. Especially chinatown, the stretch of w burnside, and near the portland art museum.
Still has it's charm on stretches on the east side. Great food scene.

>>2721357

I would say it started in 2008, when Obama became president and the occupy wall street encampments popped up. Portland was absolutely beautiful, safe, and at its peak in 1998-2008 period.

>>2723259
>i believe spokane has the highest average height in the country, which makes sense considering the basketball culture, but doesn't make sense bc there's so few negroes.

jesus i forget how intensely autistic you people are.

>>2723712
It's not autism it's incelism. Incels spend their entire life on incel forums memorizing retarded shit like `blacks are taller than whites' which has no basis in reality. I'm not sure why these losers are on travel forums when they obviously never go outside but they are always incelsplaining like experts on every topic even women when they have never touched one or Spokane when they have never been there

>>2723032
my guy, i live here. the homeless problem is bad and i hate it but i think you'd have to be a complete limp dicked pussy boy to actually feel like anything extreme is going to happen to you. i walk all over the place. sure, you have to be aware and sometimes feel on edge. but guess what retard. that's how the world works sometimes.

>>2722611
>Telluride Colorado
kek just a one horse tourist town in the middle of nowhere with extreme wealth and everyone else working for peanuts to support them. Yeah lovely place to be.

>>2724871
>that's how the world works sometimes
Tell me you are a liberal without saying you are a liberal

>>2725109
What is peanuts? Guess I could probably look up how much people make but not sure if I trust stats.

>>2721357

PDX wasn't the best in anything. It was the best city if you were a broke underemployed 20 something, because it's a city where people go to give up on life. No one ever made anything of themselves living in Portland.

>>2725155
What a silly post
I literally tripled my income living and working in Portland but wish I had left 3 years sooner. I still go back and visit friends a few times a year. Great city unless you’re a chud incel

>>2725177

Your outlier experience isn't a reflection of the reality of Portland. That's like saying that North Dakota is an economically vibrant place, because someone without a high school degree can make six figure income working 100+ hours a week at the oilfields.

>>2724871
>my guy

>limp dicked

Lmao, this reminds me of that white dudes for harris ad where they were all crossdressing homosexuals larping as real tough normal men. Libtards are so out of touch they dont comprehend how normal people think or act. Heres a clue libtard normal people dont want to visit a city full of homeless encampments, machete welding diversity, people wearing speedos with dildos attached to their heads and crazed blue haired lesbians with nose rings

If you want to attract tourists to your shithole either clean it up or at least hire a copywriter who doesn't sound like a cuck from r/polyamory giving me the heebie jeebies

>>2725200
that would be correct though
>>2725109
I mean yeah it is a lovely place to be. tough to make a living and raise a family but this is /trv/ not /life/

>>2723765

It's not an incel exclusive behavior. It's NEETs and societal losers who are frequently on travel forums giving takes on places they have never been to and experiences they've never personally experienced. The various travel and regional subreddits are full of people who are clearly just talking out of their asses and bullshitting one another all for imaginary internet points.

>>2725177
>I literally tripled my income living and working in Portland but wish I had left 3 years sooner. I still go back and visit friends a few times a year. Great city unless you’re a chud incel
You’re not wrong, but big picture, you’re an exception. I lived there for 10 years, and the city has its charms, but overall, it’s a place where mediocrity is championed and many, many people simply live in the present. It’s a great place to just unplug and relax and enjoy the good food, beer and bars, smoke weed, and do /out/ shit. But in no way is it a place people go to be a success in life.

>>2717844
Avoid Chinatown on the west side, avoid the Lloyd and Hollywood districts on the east side. There are a lot of good restaurants on both side of the river. What makes you want to visit?

>>2726656
Food, drinks, and unplugging for a bit. I've always loved the just overall chill vibe of the place.

>>2726707
Portland is a great place for that. I’m no hipster but it’s undeniably kino to sit in a coffee shop on a dreary, gray, wet day and read a book. You’ll meet all types of people there. Just don’t mention politics unless you’re far left wing

It's a left coast shithole, prepare to get robbed

>>2726712
There’s almost no crime in Portland besides hobos shitting on the street

>>2726711
And then you step outside into a pile of human shit and get stabbed by a junkie.kino, amirite?

Portland is so fucking boring. Not even about the politics. It's just dull. There isn't really much to see. Even the official tourist route cites visiting a bookstore and eating doughnuts. Place for millennials to think they're so cool and edgy by going on fent.

>>2726727
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/capitol-highway-shooting-islamic-school-noureddine-dib/283-b96e322f-5cac-4428-bad3-5d953d038995

Lmao portland isn't boring they imported thousands of violent criminals

>>2726716
There is constant crime, it's just not reported anymore because the police do nothing. Vehicles are constantly broken into and dismantled. Property crimes are commonplace. Feral homeless are violent towards each other and anyone else who is around them.

>>2726741
>Property crimes are commonplace
This. I moved out of Portland in 2013 and two months before we left, our house was broken into by junkies. Took the police a few hours to come by, and when they did, they just shrugged their shoulders and couldn't have cared less. Can't imagine that's become better since.

>>2726725
No. That (1) would not be kino, and (2) doesn't happen in Portland outside of Chinatown anyways.

>>2726741
>constant crime
There’s really not. Stop browsing /pol/ retard

>>2726877
Violent crime against randos? No there's not. But anon said
>Vehicles are constantly broken into and dismantled. Property crimes are commonplace. Feral homeless are violent towards each other and anyone else who is around them

Which is objectively true

https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/17cdcd2/target_says_3_portland_stores_closing_due_to/

>Target says 3 Portland stores closing due to crime; Police records don’t match up

Yep all the businesses are closing due to crime, but when you report any crimes from rape to robbery the police don't show up because they are under orders from the mayor to pretend there is no crime....it's a death spiral

>>2726891
Target frequently will blame external circumstances (mainly crime) to cover up bad expansion/management decisions. I wouldn't put that much stock in what they say.

>>2726727
seattle is the same. this place is dreary and boring. hightlight of my day is going to a random coffee shop and getting served coffee by the most ridiculous looking liberal freaks that america can conjure up

>>2726727
No it’s not. Excellent music scene, nice nature in town and nearby, great coffee and beer and food. Portland is a fun town

>>2728030
Any favorite coffee shops you recommend?

>>2730227
Sharis was great, but they just shut down all their locations due to robberies and violence against their employees.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2024/10/struggling-sharis-cafe-pies-closes-additional-locations.html

>>2730227
Good, Roseline, Coava

>>2730233
>due to robberies and violence against their employees.

The article doesn't say that anywhere. And there is no state-wide crime wave in Oregon (which is mostly rural anyways).

>>2730713
Uh OK, lmao

>>2725109
Telluride is one of the most gorgeous places in America

>>2726725
Lived there almost 8 years and never had a bad experience with hobos besides finding a needle in my apartment parking lot once and finding bum shit on our loading dock at work. If you avoid the soup kitchen areas downtown it’s not hard to stay away from hobos

>>2730878
Everyone we know who has a car in portland has had windows smashed and or tires slashed some even had catalytic converters stolen. Portland a crime filled sewer. Police won't even respond

>>2730928
How many people in Portland with cars do you know?

>>2731364
About 50, crime is out of control in Portland

>>2730233

Sharis hadn't been great for well over a decade and they've been bleeding money for years, because the PE firm that owns the franchise ran it into the ground and turned a beloved regional staple into a chain worst than Denny's. That's the real reason why they shutdown most of their locations.

OP here, just got back from my trip. City's doing fine. The homelessness is back to pre-pandemic levels (honestly, beneath pre-pandemic levels). Downtown area and surroundings all are safe. Restaurants are good as always. There is less foot traffic than pre-pandemic (maybe 1/3rd to 1/2), but the city is clean, folks are friendly, and all in all it's a pleasant place to be. All the new high rises and condos are kind of annoying but it is what it is on that count. No reason to avoid the city that I can see.

>>2721282
>bar scene is great
i had a great time biking around on a bar hop we met friendly people at every spot portlanders are pretty easy going and easy to talk to so long as you don't mention politics or religion or anything chuddie

>>2722611
those are cities pardner

>>2724871
you don't realize how shitty of an experience this is once you get used to it. it's shocking to outsiders.

>>2734597
thanks for the update anon glad you had a good time

>>2734602
I live in PDX and the people who live here are the worst that Oregon has to offer.

>>2734629
no doubt about it but it's still pretty fun