Which is superior for "budget travel"? I'm fed up with the loneliness of the West and wanna be human again.
>>2725971Thailand for parties, Vietnam for culture, Malaysia for "normal" lifestyle for cheap.
Cure your incelism at home fren, then travel
>>2725980honestly good survey>>2725971OP if you want on demand company, especially sexual, i can't recommend pattaya enough. if you're willing to pay than doubly so. you can fuck a different girl everyday if you want. ive heard vietnam is better for finding a gf
I wonder if the coomer tall tales about Thailand are actually true.
>>272597125 hours until my flight to Bangkok. Hopefully I will visit every country besides Myanmar this winter. Hell, maybe even Myanmar, who knows. >fed up with the loneliness of the West>wants to travel to a part of the world known for its high social barriers between locals and touristsIf you're a Cheap Charlie or otherwise have a hatred of the friendly hustle, you are setting yourself up for disillusionment. Likewise if being around normies paypigging to have mindless fun gets you seething and bitter.>>2726020The fun you'll have in Thailand all depends on how many baht you are willing to throw around. Some people can't cope with the amiable pragmatism of nightlife good vibes in SEA. Their entire life is built around a craving for profound and unique human connection, and they are not going to find this in Thailand, so they feel deeply dissatisfied and contemptuous of the mindless hedonistic fun all around them. Others feel liberated by the simplicity and common sense of the nightlife scene... even when it means they spend more on nightlife activities than they do on all other in-country expenses combined.
>>2725980>>2726018>>2726033Is Thailand the only good SEA country for cooming? I'm moving to Vietnam next year and while I'm not a coomer I don't wanna be blue balled either. I'm a decently attractive young white guy if it matters.
>>2726034>vietnam >not a coomerthen thats a good spot for you
>>2725971>The fun you'll have in Thailand all depends on how many baht you are willing to throw around. Some people can't cope with the amiable pragmatism of nightlife good vibes in SEA. Their entire life is built around a craving for profound and unique human connection, and they are not going to find this in Thailand, so they feel deeply dissatisfied and contemptuous of the mindless hedonistic fun all around them.extremely underrated and critical important comment that needs to be reflected on. i went through a dunning-coomer effect myself as i spent more time in thailand. i am overdue for a long break from it.
>>2725980Normal lifestyle in Malaysia?
>>2726050Yes. I lived there for over a year and seen much of the country, girlfriend, met some of her family, etc. I would very much call it "normal" feeling. Hijabs dont cloud my sense of things.Also, it was the only country Ive visited in the region (have not been to Indonesia or Philippines (only interested in Indonesia).) that seemed to have a sense of justice/anti-corruption some. Thailand and Laos are corrupted as shit. I have not visited Vietnam in 15 years so Im not sure about it. I assume "more adult" because of the war. Cambodia (15 years ago) I rememeber it having a child like feel, not immature but young (because of the war again), where as Laos (this year) is covered in Soviet flags, learning nothing from the war as they werent a real part of it, just a fan.In Laos the cops, citizens, everyone, is in on one big scam against people...its disgusting and shameful. They need a war to grow them up.
>>2726050Also, its super multi-kulti. Indians, Maylays, Chinese, Westerners. If youre a Westerner is WILL feel more "normal".Thailand is rapidly becoming inundated with Westerners as we speak, Chiang Mai was almost too much for me to handle, as I chose it to get away from "things" but theyre the one that "gets Whited" with immigrants.
>>2726057Yo COP, tell Sloan I said what up...
>>2726058I see. Thanks.
>>2726033Whats the jeet status in Thailand these days? I've been thinking of going whoring but the idea of Indians using the same red light district bothers me
>>2726213If you are low status and degenerate enough to do that you are already lower than an untouchable #FACTS
lotta buzz around Vietnam these days, even my normie yuppie sister and her friends are making plans to go there. i'd say the getting is good now before the secret is completely out and every tom dick and harry with a few vacation days starts booking but yeah if you just want to drink eat and fuck for cheap you can't beat thailand
Avoid Vietnam at all costs. It's a shithole compared to the rest of the ASEAN countries. Absolutely no infrastructure or services worth a damn, and the people behave even more bug-like.
>>2726228Danang is developing like crazy now. English is spoken by lots of young people. I expect it to triple in price in the next 10 years
>>2726228>>2726229The duality of /trv/
>>2726229I heard the beaches there are much dirtier than Thailand, is that true?
>>2726220Okay rajpreet
>>2726232it makes me so fucking angry that this is happening despite me having gotten my fill for the better half of the last decadeeverything needs to just STOP developing STOP STOP STOP i want to go back to just showing up and being white and being worshipped globally i can't compete with handsome korean guys i can't do this i cant take it
>>2726324Nice LARP but no white man thinks of sub-6' microdick Kims as competition
>>2726232With the way that Vietnam's economy is rapidly growing and the people becoming more affluent, I expect prices to increase naturally, but not that much. Bigger concern would be price-fixing behaviors - universal pressure on foreigners to pay 2x, 3x the going rate for everything, once they realize how much fucking money these foreign vacationers have to piss away. >>2726057I still want to wander around Laos as a poorfag during the coolest months and see what it's like to stay in those small mountain villages. Tourists who go there to flex their spending power like they do in Thailand always seem disappointed by Laos. >>2726302Thailand's popular beaches are far from population centers, while Vietnam's population centers are all along the coast. Monsoon rains always flush tons of sediment and trash into the sea; the late winter and spring months likely have the clearest water for Vietnam.
>>2726350>worry worry worry>cry that you are poor>I want I want I wantLog off your incel blog, get a job and travel
>>2726338Yea if you like fucking poo colored jungle apes then the world is your oyster but I don’t
>>2726351I have boarding passes to Istanbul and Bangkok in my pocket right now. They just announced the boarding call. How bout you?Vacation paypigs are contemptible. Good thing you fags rarely venture out of your tourist containment zones, where you can happily get ripped off until it's time to get back to work like the privileged slaves you are. >b-but in my home country this would cost 200 gorrillion dollars!!!Keep coping
>>2726377>>2726377>>2726377>Good thing you fags rarely venture out of your tourist containmentLmao as he brags about going to 2 normie shitholes and spending 24 hours on a plane. Couldn't even think of a good place to lie about niggerboy
>>2726377>bragging about boarding a long haul flight in economy class
>>2726034PH is also great for coomingwhat's so special about "culture" in Vietnam?why not visit several of those countries and see yourself?
>>2726232>English is spoken by lots of young peoplemaybe one third speaks half-decent englishand most of young people come from elsewhere, the same applies to all major cities in SEA>I expect it to triple in price in the next 10 yearseverywhere you go you see half-empty hotelsprices are likely to increase but not that much more than global inflation
>>2726355it's been proven that the only race who doesn't prefer white men over their own kind is black women
>>2726512kek obviously you aren't white and have never visited black africa
>>2726519it's been proven in studies retardi am white but why would i want to go to black africa
>>2726520>it's been proven in studies retardkekif you're white you will get endless pussy in africa from black women, it's way easier than SEA
>>2726521yes obviously you will get endless pussy, there is a fucking billion of them, but what i'm saying is black women are the only race who are more likely to date their own men than they are to date whitesi'm saying every other race's women gladly throw themselves at white meni don't know how you can't understand this
>>2726522africans will throw themselves at white men even more than asiansno matter what your "study" funded by kikestein and performed by some roastie says
How's bali?
>>2726531have been to asia and africa and can confirm this as absolutely truealso the african women are much more confident and forward about it
>>2726542Resort central. Tourist inundated.
>>2726546worth going? Heard digital nomad scene is good there and not as degenerate/hedonistic as thailand.
>>2726549why are you obsessed with sex life of others?
>>2726553Because no one wants to be around incel coomers
>>2726542Pretty shit but you can fuck some slutty Indonesian girls. But you also compete with gigachads
>>2726561Oxymoron.
>>2726637Chads ruin everything.
>>2726665oof
>>2725971>wanna be human again>going to monkeylandOkay then.
>>2726665This beach is where that DiCaprio film was made.They don't even let you get out of the boat now.
>>2726665When was this taken?
Just landed in Thailand today. Please no rangeban!
>>2726696>They don't even let you get out of the boat now.kek, they can't even swim there? absolutely based
>>2726667LMAO at thinking that Southeast Asians are less socially evolved than Hispanic mutts. Entirely the opposite.
The Philippines is the best by far just because everyone speaks English which makes everything easier
>>2726768Why is the easiest considered the best in your book? Are you one of those people who get easily exasperated over minor inconveniences? It's a bad trait to have in this part of the world, you'll find it tough to stay positive.Anyway, Malaysia would take that #1 easy spot as its modern road system is far easier for foreign drivers than the Philippines. Malaysian bakeries mog, their burnt Basque cheesecakes, Japanese pastries, carrot cakes, all so delectable. The suite you get for $30/night in Malaysia blows away what you get in PH. Street scamming and overcharging is very rare in Malaysia. Lastly, 90 days on arrival and no onward flight requirement versus 30 days and an onward flight.
>>2726830>easiestSo true, nothing is easy in the Phillipines it's literally a buearacratic shithole everything is broken even buying things the shopkeepers move like molasses waiting in line for everything because pinky's are so lazy and dumb
>>2726901are bribes a thing? I've read that you only get 30 days on a tourist visa. can you just give a monkey a couple hundred and you get a year long volunteer visa or some bullshit?
>>2726903You just have to stand in line for hours no need for a bribe
>>2726768>everyone speaks English which makes everything easierhow boring
>>2725980Wrong on all counts
>>2726213They are hated by Thais They struggle to get accommodation outside of hotel chains. Traditionally they are encouraged to use the soapies, which in the typical Thai way is an indirect yet direct insult.
>>2726766Stop putting words in my mouth, I never mentioned hispanics in my post. They're both monkeys if you really must know.
>>2726923If you want your application processed in a timely manner, it's not unheard of to pay a 3000 peso expediting fee. A foreigner in Pasay told me he paid 10000 pesos for a six month stay authorization, plus the expediting fee.>>2726938More and more it's plain to see that Thais judge foreigners negatively for their undesirable behavior, not merely on the basis of race or ethnicity. >>2727044Until you've experienced a cohesive high-trust society like Thailand, you won't realize just how far Western society has decayed. Of course the tropical conditions are not conducive to abstract thinking and other manifestations of high intelligence, but calling these people monkeys only reveals your own egotistical ignorance. Their behavior couldn't be less monkey-like.
>>2726930not just boring, one abdicates much of the leverage afforded by geographical arbitrage as well. far better to be misunderstood and benefit from friction in economic exchanges.
Every neighboring country mogs Vietnam insanely hard. >transportation is awful. airports are among the words in the world, but you're forced to fly due to the lack of efficient railways and large distances between destinations. vietnamese airlines suck ass and aren't that cheap anymore. there's a reason most people do motorbike tours>cities and towns are utterly unwalkable. you will be driving for anything more than 500m and driving in Vietnam is incredibly dangerous>probably one of the least honest countries in the world when it comes to business. every interaction that isn't "western" will be fraudulent and unscrupulous. scams are abundant >people are generally selfish, rude, and mean-spirited. this is somehow made even worse if you speak Vietnamese. also lots of utter fucking morons which will infuriate you if you ever need customer service (or help with anything in general)>speaking of the language, it is impossible to learn any useful phrases or words to help you travel around. people will not understand you; you either speak the language or you don't>rivals India for the sheer amount of trash and litter everywhere>unbearably loud at all times no matter where you are>despite having great cuisine overall, the food almost everywhere is shit due to poor quality ingredients. food safety is also not a thing in Vietnam. be prepared for food poisoning>no animals at all. parks and forested areas are completely barren>basically no culture anymore; everything paved over by capitalism. this is probably the most depressing thing from my point of view. barely any holidays and they're all fucking lame. museums suck. very little traditional architecture. music is godawful (vinahouse lol). no one cares/knows about vietnamese history, myths, legends etc... no religion at all aside from some lip service Christianity in the cities.
>>2727136Cambodia is worse than Vietnam in every way
>>2727136Yeah I'm glad I didn't fly into Hanoi, but none of this dissuades me from visiting VN later on. It does have a railway, even if you don't like it. >utterly unwalkableNo such thing. >customer serviceCustomer service in Asia involves giving you what you are paying for. That's it.>least honest countrySome people report endless ripoffs, others feel like they're always treated well and charged a fair price. Only one way to find out...>food almost everywhere is shitSkill issue. You must refine your criteria for picking a place to eat.
>>2727136there is constant corner cutting everywhere which is exhausting:you take a flight, and instead using a gate the airline decides to use the bus. you get in a bus and have to wait there until bus is 120% full, the airline is too cheap to pay for extra bus that would allow comfortable travel even thought it would increase the ticket price by less than 1%you go to mid-range hotel or restaurant which looks nice, but then you notice peeling paint, trash/dust in the corner etc. it would take a tiny effort to fix those but no one caresyou go a cafe and notice that there is dirty dishes piling on tables for half a hour after customers have left. the staff is sitting in the corner instead cleaning them promptly. wtf they are thinking?? delaying cleaning the tables won't reduce the amount of work needed
>>2727152>No such thing. lolwut? walking experience in Vietnam:there is narrow sidewalk, but you can't walk there since it's filled with parked cars, motorbikes, carts etc. 90% of the timeyou are forced to walk on the road, in many cases even the side of the road is full of parked cars/motorbikes so you have to walk almost in the middle of road, very walkable!crossing roads is dangerous and annoying since local drivers don't follow basic rules such as yielding at pedestrian crossings or yielding when turning. sometimes they are even driving at sidewalks!>Customer service in Asia involves giving you what you are paying for. That's it.no in Thailand you get good service even in cheap places. In Vietnam you get poor service even in expensive places. Just check google reviews for 5 star hotels, lot of complaints about poor maintenance, poor service, scams, etc.>others feel like they're always treated well and charged a fair pricewhere are the foreigners who felt they were always charged the local price in Vietnam? Even Vietnamese complain about scams, scamming is way of life there
>>2727152>No such thing.good one. you're a fucking idiot
>>2727152>defend a place you've never even been topeak retarded /trv/
>>2727152>No such thing.Clearly hasn't been to Vietnam lmao.
Nah, I liked Vietnam. you just gotta adjust a little bit
>>2727136Stopped reading at "mogs".
>>2727157This is all part and parcel of walking around in the poorer parts of Southeast Asia. Cluttered sidewalks used as parking lots and pop-up restaurants, having to step aside when larger vehicles go down narrow roads, darting across traffic if there are no breaks, always walking behind a car crossing your path, keeping to the side of the sidewalk to let bicycles and motorbikes go by if it is wide and clear.>>2727178Better yet, I've been on foot all over Pasay, where most streets look like picrel. Yes, cars and even trucks use these streets. It's still walkable, you faggots. >>2727155>dirty dishes left on the tablesLazy staff do this to dissuade new customers from increasing their workload, kek.
>>2726768youre a lower life form thats why.
>>2727049>Of course the tropical conditions are not conducive to abstract thinking and other manifestations of high intelligenceSo we agree, then. Later, monkey boy. Ooh-ooh ahh-ahh!
Indonesia (outside Bali) is one of the cheapest countries on Earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FSlRZzT69g
