really considering it, nauseous thinking about being an office wagie the rest of my life
>>2732910>have any of you guys moved to another country? yes>really considering it, nauseous thinking about being an office wagie the rest of my lifeok
at least I'm from this country.
>>2732910Yea I’m starting to get suicidal. I’m almost 35 and wasting my 20s has caught up with me and I realize how shitty and miserable my life is gonna be if I choose to do nothing to change it but I don’t want to do anything. I just want to chill bro…
>>2732910French frog here. My country is going downhill very fast, I don't see any future for me here, definitely won't raise a family in this circus of a country.I'm gonna visit the US for a few months to take the temperature, hopefully I'll like it because this is the only country I see myself moving to. But even then, my only way in would be to find a girl to marry...
>>2732925Don't fall for the memes. Whites are minorities in the USA under 20, it's the next South Africa. In the southwestern states it's only 20-30% white by births, and that's using a very generous definition that includes self-described status (latinos and pajeets), arabs and iranians and the south sudanese as white. USA does not have a future. France is practically an ethnostate in comparison.
>>2732915ok
>>2732927why are you obsessed with race?
>>2732967Lmfao. You have never experienced the joys of multiculturalism and a low trust society before I assume. I don't know about you, but I like things such as not being surrounded by people that hate me, people that speak English, people that won't block me from getting a job because I'm not one of them, living in a high-trust society etc. Wanting diversity is a sign of mental illness.
>>2732970i live in chicago dude
>>2732927The thing anon, is that the US is gigantic. There are plenty of places to escape to in the US if you're not happy with a specific area. Plus you have the first and second amendment, which we don't have. Idk if you're from the US but you don't realize how fucked we are here man. There is almost nowhere to escape to. Sure the countryside is safer and cozy, but the cities are still very close to it, and crime from the cities can and does reach the countryside here.>France is practically an ethnostate in comparison.Not in comparison to some of the states in the US.
>>2732975You can easily see the stats yourself:https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/births-by-raceethnicity/?dataView=1&activeTab=map¤tTimeframe=0&selectedDistributions=white&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7DOnly West Virginia, Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire still have >=90% white births. I don't even know if West Virginia counts because Scots-Irish white trash are more nigger adjacent than anything.>>2732971Post weekend death toll from the nig FFA PvP zone.
>>2732978I've never been the victim of a crime in chicago or had issues personally. going through life so obsessed with race seems miserable
>>2732978What I'm saying anon, is that in my lifetime, there will always be places in the US where you'll be able to raise a family just fine. I can't say the same for France. Hell, I can't say the same for France RIGHT NOW, we don't even have to talk about lifetime. If you start a family in France rn you're borderline reckless, unless you live in the most remote part of France or perhaps Corsica, and maybe homeschool your children.
>>2732980France still has higher social trust, lower crime rates, and more social cohesion than the USA. Half the population of the USA is on some kind of medication, drugs, alcohol etc, while many carry guns on them. Keep that in mind about muttland. Just look at Eastern Europe or Asia at this point. Also raising kids in a multicult hellhole should be considered child abuse, I had the misfortune of going to a minority white high school and it was brutal, could not imagine putting young children through that,
>>2732983>France still has lower crime rates,compared to what states and what type of crime.I'm confident I'd be safer anywhere in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana (let's not mention New England) than anywhere in France anon.>Half the population of the USA is on some kind of medication, drugs, alcohol etcThis is a problem in the US, true.>Just look at Eastern Europe or Asia at this point.They're indeed better than Western Europe in this regard, vastly better, but I speak English and desu, half of the reason I want to move to the US is the vast amount of beautiful nature you have there.>Also raising kids in a multicult hellhole should be considered child abuse, I had the misfortune of going to a minority white high school and it was brutal, could not imagine putting young children through that.Yeah, that's what I'm saying, and that's what you do when you raise a family in French cities today. Even if you put them in private establishments, they'll always be in contact with the fauna in the streets etc. Again, it's a bit better in the countryside, but then some fucking white leftists escaping the hell they created in their cities move to the villages and create NGOs to bring migrants to villages, bro I'm telling you it's a fucking nightmare here there is no escape.
>>2732910Singapore, Taiwan, Japan.Longest stint was Taipei for 4 years.Shortest was Singapore for 1 year.3 years in Tokyo now, this might be it, but I said the same thing in Taipei.Ask yourself this: What do you think will change if you moved to a new country? You will not magically turn into a new person and wherever you move to will not be the paradise that you imagine it will be. It will be different, that is the only thing you can be sure of. Whether that difference is good or bad, or if one outweighs the other, is something only you can answer yourself.Consequences, depending on who you ask, includes being far away from friends/family, not knowing the language, always being an outsider.If you can, give it a try and see if it works out but always have a backup plan.One final note: "Moving" to a different country isn't just as simple as packing your bags and flying. Chances are you probably do not have long term residency rights and you probably do not have the rights to work/be employed. This will be your first hurdle.
>>2732975If you make six figures, the PNW has huge swaths where it’s 90% white and everyone else is financially filtered out. Bellevue, WA is like a mini Singapore
>>2733028You write this while Crossroads exists.
>>2732970Welcome to being a minority OP, that's why immigrants experience in America, even 2nd or 3d gen. How do you like the taste of your racism?
>>2733050>Moving willingly to a country built by another race>Local population is brainwashed to believe that outsiders should be let in with goodwill, offer food, shelter and job opportunities>Third world invaders act like orcs, destroying everything they touch, racist towards the hostsWow, stunning and brave. You just proved all the racists right. Don't worry, you won't be able to leech from whites for much longer, your biggest fear is going back to your own country and living with your own people, can't take you seriously.
>>2732910>don't want to be an office wagie>so I'll move to a different country and be an office wagie
>>2732918Do you at least have money or something? You mean you wasted it by working and not partying and traveling or you wasted it like you did literally nothing?
>>2733135Yes wasted it it on drugs, avocado toast and uberjeets McDonald's . I didn't listed to Dave Ramsey or do the FIRE program so now I make threads crying about the consequences of my bad decisions
>>2733091i can teach english or something
>>2732910I've lived in Switzerland for a few years. It was interesting but only marginally better (good wages). I spent too much time working, didn't really have friends and felt miserable. At least nature was nice, but it's not very enjoyable when you have no one to share it with.
>>2732910>have any of you guys moved to another countryYes. Once to Asia, once to Europe, multiple years each (USAmerican).>nauseous thinking about being an office wagie the rest of my lifeMoving isn’t likely to change that. You’re still qualified for the same jobs you are at home, more or less, virtually anywhere you go. If you have a skill at home that is more highly remunerated someplace else, a significant career change might naturally go along with your move. But if you’re not offering anything at home, you’re almost never offering more abroad.
>>2733091Being an office wagie in Asia is vastly superior to being an office wagie in America if you're making a half decent income.
I would love to move to another country. France (southeast) is at the top of my list for sure. Japan is probably next, then there's a bunch of other countries that could be cool but I don't know enough about.I'd like to live in Korea for a while as well, though not for more than a few years.
>>2733203>I've lived in Switzerland for a few years. It was interesting but only marginally better (good wages). I spent too much time working, didn't really have friends and felt miserable. At least nature was nice, but it's not very enjoyable when you have no one to share it with.I’ve been an expat in Switzerland for six years at this point, and you highlight some of the problems with living here—for white-collar professionals, it’s one of the most workaholic countries in Europe; most people work longer hours than in any neighboring country, although compared with, for example, America, they at least respect PTO and expect people to use their vacation time. It’s also not a welcoming or friendly place, for the most part, so it’s very difficult to make local friends. Most expats hang out nearly exclusively with other expats; my few Swiss friends are former coworkers and a couple of spouses. Wages are high (and the currency has been very strong for a few years running now, even better), and the quality of life can be excellent in many ways, but it’s not a place to go as a young, single person looking for a good time. It’s a place to make money to save (or remit), or to raise the family you’ve already got.
I currently live abroad and I am working on getting back to the US. There is crime everywhere, including Japan. What makes America unique and better, is we have the right to bear arms. You have the castle doctrine. You we have the right to carry a firearm. You have a fighting chance. You don’t have that in any of the places I have lived outside of the USA.
>>2733287>the land known for suicide nets to stop office wagies killing themselves because they're on their 7th 60 hour week in a row>betterheh
>>2733330Agreed, although I was in the French-speaking part which is less autistic. In any case I couldn't stand the work-life balance, I was just coming out of my phd which was grim in terms of workload, this was the final nail in the coffin for me. But I hadn't planned on staying there anyway.
>>2733531What kind of work did you do in Switzerland?
>>2733534Academic research in a lab, and you?
>>2733535Nothing, I'm a different anon and I'm just a NEET from Alsace. This was from my bikepacking trip in Switzerland. My only expenses were the train tickets lol, god forbid my poor ass has to buy stuff down there. It's a beautiful country, but it feels a bit like Disneyland, it's overcrowded.
>>2733536Oh yeah, looks like you picked some of the most touristic areas too tbf, but they are for a good reason. I visited Strasbourg and its surroundings last year since I have friends who live there, nice area too but the mountains felt too small. One of the last interesting places in France I hadn't visited yet. Do you plan on staying there?
>>2733135No I wasted all my time from when I was 17 to 25ish just “turning up and fucking bitches.” I used to laugh at my friends who had to “go study” while we went to a party and now those same friends are SWE making 140k, getting engaged and/or having kids and I live in a “micro apartment” that looks like a dorm room cut in half, totally alone, making 40k a year at 33.
>>2733537This Lac d'Oeschinen? It's on my map of stuff to see, and you're right, I went to a very touristy area hehe but it tbf was okay when I went, it was off season. I'm just talking in general, it's a very beautiful country but it's small so it gets crowded pretty quick, it's nothing like the vast amount of nature that you can enjoy in the US. I'm gonna go back there next year and do some hiking and maybe Via Ferrata with a Swiss friend from Genève.I'm not a big city guy but I gotta admit that Strasbourg is a cool city, I'm in the Colmar area.Our mountains are small indeed compared to the Alps, but they're cozy, I'm happy to have them.Alsace is a very pretty part of France and I'm happy to live here, for now at least, but I don't see any future for me in France. I'm the >>2732925 anon.Where are you from originally and where are you now?
>>2733546Yes that's the Öschinensee, very crowded but still worth a hike. I'm from southeastern France and now I live in the Jura area, kinda miss my Alps. I just like mountains I guess kek. If you can find work in Switzerland go ahead and try living there, although as I said before for certain jobs it can be quite soul sucking. But living in Switzerland as a foreigner (especially from the eu) is very easy, their administration is efficient, people are proficient in english, the pay is good and everyone is being treated well.
>>2732910Yes. From bavaria to austria.
>>2732925>france is going downhill >but the usa isn't >going to find a marriageable girl in the usa lmao thanks for the laff anon
>>2732915KYS
>>2734419no u
>>2732925Why dont you move to Poland. They actually have a future l, clearly.
>>2734417>but the usa isn'tThe USA is a big country. Plenty of areas where you can live a good life and ignore the retarded bs going on in other parts of the country.>>2734478>Why dont you move to Poland.Don't know the language, don't know the culture, don't really care about it and when it comes to vast amount of diversified nature to enjoy, the US is unbeatable. Other than that, yes, Central/Eastern European countries are a good option. Just not my cup of tea.
>>2732910I lived in France for a bit on a student exchange. It was a constant fight. Most annoying thing is struggling to communicate when everyone around you thinks you're retarded because you speak French at a kindergarten level. Nothing makes you more patriotic than living abroad.
>>2732925what exactly are you trying to escape?>minoritiesworse in the US>housing and living costsfar worse in the US>muh liberal governmentif you think giving up your amazing work rights for that is worth it then go aheadthe US is good for living in the middle of nowhere when you have a bunch of money built up, otherwise the cities are absolute shit compared to most of europe, enjoy your no trains unless you live in a select few places
