>Last Thread: >>2720096>Dead coaster edition>What is this thread? Why are there two generals?/rcg/ was initially created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other theme parks, their rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /tpg/ comes in.>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?Absolutely! Disney discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.Thread Tip Pro: Ride every coaster every year, as it may be gone next week.Park Crowd Tracker:>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parksRoller Coaster Database:>https://rcdb.com/Amusement Park News Sites:>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/>https://www.screamscape.com/>https://www.coaster101.com/Disney Park News:>https://www.wdwnt.com/>https://www.wdwmagic.com/>https://www.allears.net>https://www.mousesteps.com
>>2733751Is Yas island worth it? Or should I stick With theme parks in the first world?
The American Dream's TMNT's Kinoraiser back up? It's the only ride that beats Six Flags Over Texas's Titan
>>2733777>KinoraiserLol it's not even an orignial layout. And Titan is utterly mogged by I305 in every concievable way.
>>2733751>Now I'll never be able to say I rode Kingda KaWhy live?
>>2733801I don't know if I buy their reasoning. It doesn't make sense to not announce that that it would be removed. Everyone would flock to the park if they knew that and it would be free revenue.
It really is so weird to have literally the tallest roller coaster in the world, a huge deal, and just close it with no announcement.
When Universal is planning to close an attraction they announce it at least 2 months out to allow the fans enough time to get to the park to say proper goodbyes. They even capitalize on it by releasing limited edition farewell merch.Six Flags will always be bush league
>>2734026Blackpool Pleasure beach just completely tore down their Wooden Wild Mouse overnight in the close season without any announcement. They haven't replaced it with anything either.It's annoying as hell as it was a classic historical ride (one of those, "Am I about to die?" ones) and there's now only a single wooden wild mouse left.
>>2733770Apparently Saudi parks aren't built that well.
>>2734026Six Flags normally did announce major closures, which leads me to believe they have some reason for the quiet closure - such as an announcement of future plans for it. Could just be wanting to minimize criticism too, though.
>>2734155probably unsafe. that park is notorious for horrific deaths caused by negligence.
would you ride it if it still existed?
>>2734167What are the deaths not related to the haunted castle fire (started by some dipshit teenager trying to smoke)
>>2734169Imagine going on a ride so weak and forceless that it doesn't even have a hot nurse stationed at it 24/7. LMAOing at boomers, xoomers, millennials, and zoomers.
>>2734182I really hope someday we see a modern recreation of it
>>2734184A modern version of it would just be a low-tier GCI, unless you kept the original layout to 100% accuracy in which case no one except some thoosie billionaire with a giant backyard would be insane enought to even consider building it.
>>2734170i wouldn't blame the teenager, i would blame the retards who decided to use highly flammable foam(the same type that caused the station nightclub fire) and who chained and blocked off the emergency exits.
>>2734244Most materials people are around and interact with every day are flammable. I would blame the teenager for trying to light a cigarette in an area where smoking was prohibited.>and who chained and blocked off the emergency exits.There's no evidence of that being the case.
>>2734169You can tell just from looking at it that it's a terrible design
>>2734245>There's no evidence of that being the case.this is incorrect
>>2734245>>2734167watch this documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QndKjUVG5mU&list=PLClaUWa99EotmTklgz_pqLMGJrGmwtc_a
>>2734254>>2734256No, I'm not going to watch your shitty documentary, investigators found no evidence exits were chained shut
>>2734245now you're being obtuse the same exact material responsible for one of the deadliest fires resulting in 100+ deaths (station nightclub)because of its illegal and negligent use is not the same as other flammable materials.
>>2734257this is the online equivalent of putting you fingers in yours ears .multiple witnesses that were there at the park that day coorborated some exits being chained, but they were nto called to testify. there was a metal fence erected blocking visitors from accessing several of the exits as well.there was also not fire alarms or sprinkelrs another shared factor with the notorious station fire.charges for manslaughter for the park executives ended with plea deals
>>2734258>>2734262Investigators found no evidence of chained fire exits and that means more to me than your indie shitflick.
>>2734289do you work for six flags corporate or something?
>>2734289>the corrupt investigation about criminal negligence that was allowed to happen due negligence of the township didnt find something that means it didnt happen.we have onrecord from witnesses that they were chained,just because one investigation didnt include it and these witnessed were nto called to testify doesnt mean it didnt happen. also good on you for ignoring all the other factors of negligence and the outcome of the trials. weirdo defending big corporation who lets kids die.>indie shitflick.award winning documentary that is an excellent display of true independent journalism
>>2734297If the witnesses' accounts were credible, they'd have testified in court. There's a reason they didn't make it that far. Still not watching your conspiracy-minded indie shitflick.
>>2734305> If the witnesses' accounts were credible, they'd have testified in courtIs something someone who has never been involved in any legal proceeding would say Also how can you judge something you haven’t even watched.you’re being an obtuse retard for no reason other than your own pride and ego.
>>2734351I know that every time I deal with a histrionic person online or irl, they're often very mentally ill and always wrong.
Anyone been playing the new Planet Coaster? I haven't played it yet but here's a screenshot of one of my old attempts at building a "lifelike" coaster (I'm a talentless retard with no creativity)
>>2734392It's okay overall. Not much of an upgrade over PC1. It's missing a lot of the theming options we got with the base game in PC1 which is disappointing. I assume their plan is to nickel and time the living shit out of customers with the DLC packs adding all of that back in. They also did some scummy shit off the bat like making the haunted mansion ride system a pre-order bonus. So if you buy the game now you can't make the haunted mansion...not that there's a horror theme in the game anyways
Paris is getting a new show, looks like it's no longer going to be a separate drone and "main" show this time. Guessing the aim is to make it less of a bummer if weather means the drones can't go up.
>>2734408Also adding mainstreet projection effects which is sorely needed given so many people get a terrible view of the castle projections.
>>2734408I mean bad weather will still mean no drones, so it'll disappoint either way. Sadly no real way to prevent that from happening. I missed out on Electrical Sky Parade because of the lousy weather and it's a huge bummer I was never able to see it.
>>2734395Well post some of your builds anyways
First (limited) onride footage of the DK coaster (starts at 14m) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7kKAfJzg5U&t=701sIt actually looks like you get thrown about a lot, the lever effect does some interesting things
>>2734441New 'jak just dropped.
>>2734441Is this the nip Mr Beast or some shit?
>>2734361You’ve been wrong at every point in this conversation and you haven’t conceded anything.you are the one being histrionic
>>2734441It does look a little faster/more forceful than I was expecting, I assumed due to the family demographic of Nintendo and not straining the arm too much it would have to be very mild, but it looks like it might be cool.
>>2734493>t. Cluster B
Naruto roller coaster being built in France
>>2734771I can only name a few legitimately great launch coasters, most of them are gay >Hagrid's>Velocicoaster>Maverick >Lightening Rod before the changes>Slinky Dog is great for a family coasterAny others? I can't really think of any more
>>2734783>Slinky DogLMAO it's not even the best launched coaster in its own park (in a park with a whopping 2 coasters). Here's one that mogs all the ones you listed.
>>2734783>>Slinky Dog is great for a family coasterThis is straight up dog shit.
>>2734783Why would you put Slinky over Cosmic Rewind...
>>2734787>>2734788Slinky Dog is a great family coaster, keep coping. It has a very low ride height requirement and is thrilling enough to be fun but also isn't too scary for kids to ride. It checks all the boxes for a great family ride.
>>2734812Disney has great family coasters and Slinky Dog is not one of them.
>>2734783it doesn't do anything exceptional, I just like it
>>2734812Bob Iger posts on /rcg/ now
>>2734169Knowing that they found teeth lodged into the top of the loop, no.
Alright anon, six flags hired (You) to replace Kingda Ka. What are (You) replacing it with?
>>2734783As the others said, Slinky Dog doesn’t belong. Mack isn’t exactly known for intense launches and the ones here are tamer than tire launches on other family coasters like Firechaser Express. It has a boring layout with bunny hills that have no airtime because it goes so slow. I even think it was designed to go faster and was intentionally slowed down for capacity reasons (but can obviously still make the course). It’s a waste of magnetic launches.I’m guessing you’re excluding accelerator and similar coasters, and also impulses. But the Premier LIM shuttle coasters are-were pretty darn good. Volcano was iconic. Cheetah Hunt gets no love for being Maverick Jr. but it’s a fun one, certainly it belong on this list in place of fucking Slinky Dog. I am glad Slinky Dog exists to absorb all those morons that don’t know any better.
>>2734783Nigga please
>>2734876Conventional lift hill coaster of similar height
>>2734860I almost posted this one, it's a great wacky ride and super aesthetic in its prime
>>2734878I like Cheetah Hunt too and think it's a great ride, same for Firechaser. But when you have small kids Slinky is great which is why I provided the caveat of FAMILY coaster. It's obviously outclassed by bigger meaner rides.
>>2734812The theming is pathetic for an E-ticket disney attraction. And if we're going by the coaster itself, Manta at SWSD is the same model, also family-friendly, and absolutely mogs Slinky Dog.
>>2734887>Big Bear Mountain>Firechaser Express>Pegase Express>Gold Rush>(soon) Hiccup's Wing GlidersAll of these are family launched coasters with roughly the same height requirement as Slinky Dog, aren't total snoozefests unlike it, and don't require forcing your kids to sit through a disney-length queue to ride.
>>2734937Hiccup's is going to have disney-length queues for a while
>>2735080Nah, could have capacity close to Hagrid's but won't be anywhere near as in demand. Wolfman (another launch coaster) and Donkey Kong are going to be the ones with the big queues
>>2735112Everything will have a retarded line for the first year or so at least
Riding Radiator Springs Racers made me wonder, are there any other rollercoasters that have a triple bunnyhop that increase in severity each time like that does? I know there are a bunch of multiple bunny hop coasters but they all tend to be the same height.It's a fun element which isn't too extreme but gets funny reactions when someone gets the losing stomach feeling on the penultimate hill and realise they have the final one that'll be even worse.
>>2733770Get the rings nigger
>>2734055A lot of the Middleeastern parks are.Motiongate is really weird for big empty rides (and a fairly neatly themed idea for a Shrek Ride)
>>2735151I doubt it since it would require the track to be powered throughout the course.Closest thing I can think of is something like Lightning Rod's quad down
got our first look at the ministry of magic at epic universehttps://people.com/harry-potter-battle-of-the-ministry-ride-photos-epic-universe-universal-orlando-exclusive-8747275
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>>2735163>I doubt it since it would require the track to be powered throughout the course.You just need to maintain or increase speed by continually decreasing elevation (like LR) and/or contouring each successive hill to make it a little more intense than the previous one.
>>2735184Really interested in knowing if it's going to be a mini drop ride or if it's closer to a simulator that moves between physical scenes. Given this matches the seat layout it's probably safe to assume it's doing this patent.
>>2735188It's pic related, apparently. Basically a scaled up Scoop vehicle with more vertical movement.
>>2735182Epic Universe is really going all out with animatronics, it's great to see
>>2735151Zippin Pippin has a single hill near they end of its bunnyhill finale that needed a slight profiling adjustment to provide clearance for a train, and because of that, it provides Magnum levels of ejector after multiple floater hills.
>>2735151The banked bunnyhills on Fujiyama may not exactly quality, but it sure felt like they did. Kept expecting them to get slower and easier, but each one felt more determined to launch me out of the car then the last.
Anyone ever go to IAAPA? Looks cozy
>>2735182Everyone is losing their minds over this, but I can't be the only one who thinks it looks kind of shit. The 'brickwork' is just flat textures over the walls. I feel like it's just going to look like cheap plastic in person.
>>2735182>>2735240>boomers unironically think this trash is better than screens
>>2735477t. hasn't seen the F&F part of USH's Studio tour
>>2735459>>2735477
>>2735477You're a special kind of stupid aren't you
>>2735459That's pretty much what it looked like in the movie, though.
>>2735549Oh, fair enough then. I thought it was weird of them to cheap out when they hadn't done that in previous Potter Lands. Knowing the bricks are supposed to be smooth makes things make a lot more sense.
Universal Studios Hollywood insight:-Cold butterbeer is great.-Butterbeer Potted Cream is good but suffers from comparison with regular cold butterbeer.-The Butterbeer slushie (frozen butterbeer) is not as good as either of the above. Surprisingly not that sweet. Which is not the worst thing.I should have just stuck with cold butterbeer, but my curiosity got the best of me.The Harry Potter bathroom has theming in it. Moaning Myrtle can be heard talking to you.Super Mario World bathroom has water level music and a mirror with water level enemies above it.Kung Fu Panda Dreamworks Adventure or whatever it was called was good.Minions Mayhem is the weakest one, if you time to do everything do that first or it will suffer in comparison to everything else.
>>2735585>The Harry Potter bathroom has theming in it. Moaning Myrtle can be heard talking to you.That's always been my least favorite restroom because of that and the sinks being rather old (maybe a Rowling decision? idk)The Nintendo ones are the best solely because the sinks have warm water which was a godsend during the cold months when that land opened.
>>2734879I’d put FLY on the list too purely for atmospheric and storytelling reasons. But Taron is for sure the better coaster and feels like riding a missile.
>>2735585USH sucks and is the worst major park in the country. Only slightly redeeming thing is the tram ride but even that sucks now cause they don't film anything in California anymore because it's ran by retarded communists
MuppetVision confirmed dead. I don't know why anyone thought otherwise. If the Rivers of America aren't sacred, nothing is.
Executives needing to justify their existence with change for no good reason other than change are a blight on the earth.
>>2735744>>2735746Bob really trying his hardest to set up the next CEO for failure by making him inherit all his bad fucking ideas. You bet your ass he'll wait for bulldozing to begin on all projects before handing the helm over to someone else, out of spite. Not to imply a new CEO wouldnt end the bloodshed but they might see what a waste of money these projects are in their current state and pigeon hole it.
>>2735744With the Electric Mayhem taking over Rock n Rollercoaster, they should have just had Muppetvision take over the Lightning McQueen theater too instead of that planned Villain show.
Leaked photo of Ministry queue
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>>2735757
>>2735744>>2735754This park will barely resemble what it looked like a little over 10 years ago. I worked there over 20 years ago and almost everything I remember has been replaced or changed (or will be replaced or changed).I know it's enclosed and protected from the elements but RnRC is still over 25 years old. Since this re-theme is retaining the RnRC name I expect them to recycle all the non-Aerosmith theming since it's generic and was probably designed that way for this reason. But they're still going to put millions of dollars into a 25-year-old roller coaster that has nearly 365 day operation. They should re-track it and give it new trains at least. They won't but they should.
>>2735771Pretty sure they did a retracking either last year or the year prior, it was shut down for half the year.
>>2735776That was a standard refurb. They do welding and in some rare cases they might replace a section of track. If this was a regional park, that's good enough but this is a place that charges almost $200 for admission and builds $500 million attractions. They should replace the entire track and all the supports. It also uses an antiquated launch that involves moving parts (LIMs plus it uses a catch car)
>>2735744I don't understand why they keep replacing things instead of adding things.
>>2735792Operating costs
I think with the Monsters Land their going to replace Muppet Vision 3D with Monster Inc Laugh Floor. Which means we might have a New Tomorrowland in the future. Also do you think Rock n Rollercoaster going to be like Cosmic Rewind with Dr Teeth Covers of songs including one Aerosmith song?
>>2735802>They're going to replace Muppet Vision 3D with Monster Inc Laugh Floor. Which means we might have a New Tomorrowland in the futureNah if they were going to do a "New Tomorrowland" project they would have done so during construction of Tron Coaster.
>>2735771Vekomas are pretty much the Nokias of coasters. 50 boomerangs have been built and not one of them has ever been scrapped, only relocated at most. And the same can almost be said for SLCs, despite their infamy. RnRC should be able to keep running fine for many years without a retrack.
>>2735754Will it be worse than the Avengers retheme?
>1 new attraction, 1 removed againSo much for hoping it'll ease off some of the SDD and ROTR queues.
>>2735821Technically 2 new attractions counting the MV3D replacement
>>2735824Not classing a lazy as fuck retheme as a new ride. They're probably only going to change the ride queue and pre-show.
>>2735825Then you shouldn't claim it as 1 removed attraction either
>>2735826Muppet vision is going completely anon...
>>2735754Last time I went to HWS, RnR was going to be the last ride I was going to go on that day. Then they just shut it down. This was right before they refurbished it recently.
>>2735754If they did that do you think they'd take the time to scrub the goofy mask joke?
>>2735830It's getting rethemed, same as RnRC. The door coaster is a new build going into the parking lot.Which is also why I think Muppetvision closing just so they can claim another single-IP land is stupid, especially when they're breaking away from that in Animal Kingdom.
What band is RnRC going to be? They should have dumped Aerosmith 15+ years ago
>>2735885muppets
>>2735888God that's gay
>>2735891Nah the Muppets are based, but it's a very stupid fit for RnRC
>>2735821wdwmagic thinks they're gonna move muppetvision to the recently closed Lightning McQueen show that is next to aerosmith. They have moved attractions before... (lion king)
>>2735895Didn't they already announce a villains show for that spot
>>2735896Yeah, but the Villain show is apparently meant to be a temporary show being used as a means of training more face character actors for Villain Land at Magic Kingdom.
>>2735893>Nah the Muppets are basedI'm not telling you this to demean you:You need to grow up.
>>2734441That's an amazing soiface in the thumbnail
>>2735910NTA but we're talking about Disney theme parks here. Their target audience is supposed to be kids. Also, you have to keep in mind that guest-starring on the Muppet show used to be a popular gig with celebrities in the '70s, but the problem was that Jim Henson sold his company to Disney and then died very soon afterwards, and Disney has never figured out what to do with it afterwards.
>>2735585>Super Mario World bathroom has water level music and a mirror with water level enemies above it.I like little touches like that. I noticed that Captain America's Diner at Islands of Adventure plays a hero themed soundtrack. "Heroes" by Bowie, "Holding Out for a Hero"
>>2735754Okay I guess...
>>2735957Jim never sold it to Disney. The deal fell apart after his death, Germans bought the company in the mid 90s before the family bought it back and then they had the idea of selling just the Muppets and Bear in the Big Blue House to Disney while they kept Fraggles and the Creature Shop at a time when the puppetry industry was dying all around them. That's where all those CG kids shows on PBS come from, the Henson company pivoted to mocap puppetry.
>>2735963Sorry, I meant the Muppets license, not his company.
I hope sfot is getting the giga dive from the surveys for real and that this symbolizes my home park no longer being on the red headed stepchild side of the chain anymore with the new management and all since cedar fair apparently always wanted to get into Texas
Went to Universal Florida yesterday and they were conducting a survey asking guests what kind of AAA attraction you would like to see at Universal Studios and the options included a Roller Coaster. I said specifically to the survey conductor "A big budget animatronic heavy ride that is similar to Kongfrontation or Earthquake" but I'm 100% certain I'm in the minority there. Too many families from Latin America doing the survey
>>2736043Roller coasters are better
>>2736044There are 6.5 coasters already across the two parks with Epic about to add 5 more. There are 3 remaining animatronic based dark rides and zero remain that utilize the "Tram tour gone wrong" storyline that the entire Studios park was based on. If you want Coasters drive down the road and go to Six Flags: Sea World.
>>2736046You're probably right they should replace rip ride rocket instead of just a fully new coaster just yet buts it's hard to not just want more coasters after how the velocicoaster turned out
>>2736047Still doesnt belong in Studios. The theme of Studios is a working movie studio where you can see behind-the-scenes how movies are made and "ride the movies".Any straight up coasters belong at Islands. If they were to add another coaster to Studios it would ideally be more similar to The Mummy and feature heavy story elements. Studios has already mostly lost its identity and slapping Velocicoaster 2 in the central lagoon would be the final nail.
>>2736048>Studios has already mostly lost its identity and slapping Velocicoaster 2 in the central lagoon would be the final nail.I'm fine with that
>>2736050Are you a latin american family on vacation by any chance?
>>2736047Main rumor is that they'll replace RRR with a spinning F&F coaster like the one going to Hollywood.Speaking of which:>A notice of commencement was recently filed for work at Universal Studios Florida that shows roller coaster manufacturer Intamin as the contractor. (This is separate from the one previously filed for maintenance building expansion happening at Hagrid’s in Islands of Adventure.)
>>2736048>The theme of Studios is a working movie studioThat only worked in Universal Hollywood because it had already been an established movie studio for over 50 years by the time they opened the theme park.
>>2736053The only way I'm okay with this is if its paired with the removal of Supercharged. That show building deserves a way better attraction.
>>2736055Universal Studios Florida is literally themed to the Tram Tour of that park and it actually was used as a movie studio at times. iirc they do shoot various shows there still.What I mean tho is the original rides and experiences were largely based around being in a simulated movie or how movies were made. The alfred hitchcock experience and earthquake both had parts where you would literally make a movie with park guests. That aspect of the original theme has been gutted and replaced with whatever IP overperformed that year.There's no movie props on display like there used to be. They used to have a whole area where vehicles used in films were displayed. All that shit is gone and what you're left with is just a park that is themed to various properties owned by Comcast or one of their corporate partners.
>>2736058>Universal Studios Florida is literally themed to the Tram Tour of that parkWhich closed literally five years after the park opened because you can't just create a new film industry in the South.
>>2736061Nah the Florida tram tour shut down cause it was irrelevant and a dumb idea to transport over when you already expanded on every idea the California tram tour had. They just drove you around the streets of the park and told you about them without you doing anything. Completely pointless.
>>2736046As much as I miss Kongfrontation, Jaws, and Earthquake, I don’t think modern audiences care for animatronics dark rides as much as in years past. I regularly hear millennial parents talk about their Disney trips and how their kids think those rides are boring. Both Disney and Universal have pivoted more toward themed coasters and the coasters are among the most popular rides in their respective parks. We are still getting some new dark rides at least but the days of these theme parks being comprised of all or mostly dark rides is gone. Universal also gets rid of stuff that isn’t popular and even Disney seems to now be using this playbook.>>2736047RRR would be the best spot for a new coaster if indeed its days are numbered. Can’t really put anything else there besides an out and back coaster
>>2736064>I don’t think modern audiences care for animatronics dark rides as much as in years past.I'm fully aware anon and I truly think obama making it super easy for people in latin america to visit orlando on tourist passports is the reason why. Educated Middle Class White American and British families aren't the target audience anymore and now everything is bland so non english speakers aren't left out. Their standard for what constitutes entertainment is vastly lower.
>>2736058>Theme parks remove old attractions and add new ones to keep people coming backTrue, they do that
>>2736065Oh they predate King N. I remember Brazilian tour groups in the 90s, large groups of unruly Portuguese-speaking teens taking over parks, cutting in line, filling up the hotel pool.
>>2736066Are you intentionally being obtuse or are you naturally this retarded?You can replace old attractions with newer attractions that still adhere and amplify the overall thematic guidelines the park was founded on. >>2736067They were the minority in the park. Now spanish speakers are like 50% of the park guests.
>>2735459>>2735477>t. Yidney
>>2736066They didn’t use to. At least Disney didn’t used to, Universal set the precedent and now Disney is following. Magic Kingdom is the most attended park in the world at 20 million annual visitors despite having carrousel of progress and Tom Sawyer island and other unpopular old attractions.
>>2736068>They were the minority in the park. Now spanish speakers are like 50% of the park guests.I’m pretty sure that’s mostly because of the Cubans and Puerto Ricans who live in Orlando. Don’t get me wrong, I see the Latin American tourists too in their soccer jerseys and what not. But Spanish hasn’t been a minority language there in decades.
>>2736065>Educated Middle Class White American and British families aren't the target audience anymoreI'm sure that's why kids just don't care about dark rides ad much anymore you're definitely not obsessing over a boogeyman you made up in your head to blame things on
>>2736082>a boogeyman you made up in your head to blame things onI go to the parks monthly. You are asking me to deny the evidence in front of my eyes.
>>2736083Pareidolia
>>2736084You're seriously going to pretend there isnt an absolutely asinine amount of non-english-speaking hispanics at the florida parks now?
>>2736086I'm stating you have failed to establish how correlation=causation
>>2736088You are asking me to blame kids over adults. Adults spend money and dictate the market. It's the adults and there's a shit-ton of latino families there that have perhaps an 80IQ between them. That crowd doesnt care if they are looking at screens or fully realized immersive physical sets. It's all just noise and lights to them
>>2736089This is cope
>>2736091Yeah? Well I think it's you that's coping.
>>2736086Looks like there are a few Mexicans in that picture though. Disneyland is in the whitest county in the metro LA area. Orange County voted Trump even. The entire area is surrounded by Mexicans though and it’s been that way for decades. Park was full of Mexicans when I went there in the 90s. Also I’m not so sure that Mexicans don’t like dark rides the same way white middle class families do. I bet Mexican families enjoyed them the same.Modern audiences are over stimulated with various forms of media. Dioramas of static and animated figures isn’t enough for attention spans these days. That’s why all these dark rides have shooting elements or in some cases like Flooded Mine have had shooting elements retrofit into them. Also the kids sections at many regional parks, especially legacy Cedar Fair and Busch and Dollywood, are way better than when I was a kid. I’ve seen first hand kids bored out of their mind on it’s a small world marathoning those flat rides and they couldn’t be happier.
>>2736100You just compared my argument, which is specifically about universal, to a whole bunch of shit at disney in california. I dont think kids would be bored by the classic universal attractions. Nothing is boring about having a tanker truck full of gas come crashing through the ceiling and burst into flames in front of your entire family. I dont care how "overstimulated" you are, some shit is just eternally fucking awesome. Blockbuster movies have the same problem right now that the theme park industry has. Movies have to be kept so bland so that an international audience in china watching a translation can get something out of it. The films as a result have zero special qualities to them and are...slop. Same shit with theme park rides. If the indented audience is everyone it means jack shit to no one.
>>2736089The decline of animatronic dark rides and the shift toward more screens and coasters isn’t because of low IQ swarthoids. Screens are cheaper and easier to maintain and switch out. Coaster are relatively cheap to maintain and operate and are the biggest crowd pleasers. I think Hagrid’s is the best all-around ride because of its marriage of coaster and dark ride elements. I also think Rise of the Resistance sucks
>>2736105You showed a pic of Disneyland!Earthquake was based but Disaster was negrified goyslop
>>2736107>Screens are cheaper and easier to maintain and switch out.Companies do what their consumers demand of them if they want to stay in business. If Universal was still exclusively basing their business model on a higher trust middle class clientele, they wouldn't get away with just swapping screens in for everything. People just wouldn't go and their business would decline. The swarthoids have lower standards for amusement (cause im sure jimmy fallon race through new york beats playing dice in a favela), but we all suffer as a result as the quality of attractions declines.
>>2736108Yes, but despite the like two mexicans in that photo the overwhelming majority of people in it are white. The rare minorities back then had to elevate their behaviors to those of the protestant european majority so it's still not even comparable to what we see today. Like you really only hear criticism of what the parks have turned into from white nerds who, perhaps foolishly, still believe that society and what it views as entertainment should hold itself to any sort of benchmark.
>>2736109You are making up people in your mind to be mad at its actually sad
I winder if the loser briny bitch on youtube posts here
>>2736109IMO, Disney hasn’t made a good animatronics dark ride in the US since Temple of the Forbidden Eye (I always thought Countdown to Extinction aka Dinosaur sucked). Universal’s Secret Life of Pets is the best dark ride they’ve made since the 90s. Not counting Forbidden Journey or the coaster dark rides. Or Jurassic World because that’s not really a new ride. The decline started a long time ago when the higher trust middle class was still predominant. Even today these parks are still mostly white middle and upper middle class. The brown people are mostly higher income bracket brown people except the locals with Florida resident passes but even those are expensive. You want to see what it’s like to be in a mostly Hispanic Orlando park, go on Aquatica on the weekend. Seaworld parks fun cards are cheap. I don’t blame them, If I was a local I would have it too
>>2736109>cause im sure jimmy fallon race through new york beats playing dice in a favelaThey're so poor that they live in poverty in a favela but also they can afford an expensive vacation to florida? Do you understand how fucking retarded you sound?
>>2736133The favela comment was a joke. Do you understand how fucking retarded you sound?
>using racial science autism to explain why people like rollercoasters>complaining about muh screens when we just got secret life of pets and are getting an entire new fucking park full of expensive e-ticket dark rides in less than a year
>>2736135My anger is entirely contained within what Universal has done with its flagship Florida park and how a very specific type of ride has been phased into extinction. I also have been noticing that almost every rude encounter with another park guest has a racial trend. I mean do they not have lines in south america? Why do they struggle with the concept?
>>2736136Universal was doing it to cheap out and are now backtracking after bad feedback from guests. This is why hagrids doesn't use screens and why they're showing off the animatronics and physical sets they're using for EU.
>>2736139Hagrids is at Islands, my friend, and is also not a dark ride. It's a story coaster with dark ride elements. Universal went from Jimmy Fallon to Minion Blast to a digital Poe meet and greet. Just L after L after L.
>>2736141Having an Edgar Allan Poe meet and greet would go so hard
>>2736145>Oy vey you're fucking bleeding me dry over here
>>2736146Wrong jew
>>2736156Correct jew. One designs the thing, the other owns the fucking parent company
>>2736068>You can replace old attractions with newer attractions that still adhere and amplify the overall thematic guidelines the park was founded on.That's irrelevant. The park will move in the direction its executives think will generate the most attendance. You just personally don't like it is all.
>>2736160>the fucking parent companynot how it works
>>2736141>Just L after L after Lmaybe on planet retard
>>2736161Congrats on finding a way to rephrase my argument so it sounds like it disagrees with me. I bet you felt incredibly smart doing that.I am literally saying that the theme park audiences now are less sophisticated. They changed the tourist visa system to bring more people from latin america so the people who are spending money in the park are different. Those people dont want to sit and hear about "the magic of film-making". They want the minions dangled in front of their faces like keys in front of a child. >>2736162You dont think Comcast gets final say on park finances? >>2736163You're going to tell me Fallon, Minion Blast, and Dreamworks Land are hitting the same watermark as the legacy universal attractions? Or even Twister?
>>2736164>You dont think Comcast gets final say on park finances?I would assume NBCUniversal is who Universal Destinations & Experiences directly answers to.Michael J. Cavanagh's the interim CEO of NBCUniversal as well as the President of Comcast so I guess he'd be the final word.
>>2736166And who do you think he answers to, anon?
>>2736164>I am literally saying that the theme park audiences now are less sophisticated.They're not. You just have an inferiority complex and you've found a group to lash out at.
>>2736141>hurrr why aren't they completely overhauling usf while building a new park at the same time
>>2735512>>2736146>>2736156>>2736166We need more corporate-portrait memeing on /rcg/
>>2736170Where the fuck did I say that? You're inventing an argument I didn't make. I'm saying what has been built at USF recently is incredibly weak compared to what has been built recently at the other parks. They've allowed it to become noticeably worse than its sister park and EU is gonna mog the shit out of it. USF has been in a state of decline from what used to be an incredible ride line-up. >>2736172Agreed.
>Why did a company that got tossed around like a whore during the 00's and early 10's resort to doing shitty short sighted overhauls to their park after finally getting a well needed cash injection and stable leadershipNext time just place the blame on jews being cheap, its easier to argue.Anyway I saw muppets today after not seeing it for a couple months and they replaced the projection effect for the waldo's barely disguised fetish scene. Wonder what thats all about if they were planning to gut the place """soon""".
>>2736167>And who do you think he answers to, anon?The Council on Foreign Relations, obviously
>>2736131What about the Mario Kart ride? Do you not like that one?
>tfw love the universal studio park aesthetic but hate the trash ride line-up (except mummy, one of the best family coasters of all time)
>>2736409same. mummy is top tier, mib is cool and ET is a classic but otherwise it's a kino park filled with shitty simulators and screens. im hoping that they focus on fixing that after EU opens, IoA is fine as it is
>>2736411IoA still needs to put Lost Continent out of its misery
So one topic I see on X is "if you were CEO of Disney what would you do?" I keep seeing people say bring back Splash Mountain. Like how possible would that even happen? And that's based on the technical and financial side of things, not the controversial issues that you can just easily tell people to fuck off.
>>2736439>Like how possible would that even happen?They built it once, didn't they?
>>2736444Well when I think about it they didn't just build it once, but three times. The issue right now with Tiana's is the time, money and whatever effort was just put into it. Would it be wise to right away restore it back to Splash Mountain? Now it may be plausible. Just look at the Star Wars hotel that's currently abandoned, though they're trying to salvage it somehow. Though no one gives a shit about the Star Wars hotel, just a example of how Disney does like to waste money.
>>2736439Unless Disneed destroyed all the blueprints and animatronics/props for Splash Mountain, reverting it should be significantly cheaper than Tiana's DEI Adventure.
>>2736448I don't think they'll go back to Splash, but I do think that a "Somehow Dr. Facilier returned" retool will happen eventually, especially when even the people that were cheering on the Tiana overhaul are saying Disney was being too woke for cutting Facilier for "It'll offend the real voodoo practitioners" reasons.
>>2736409As a local who goes to every FL park on a weekly basis, studios is probably my least favorite park...They do some good shows and holiday stuff, but yea, the rides are mostly lame. Even mummy has kinda worn on meHonestly, RRR is my favorite ride in the park, and now they are ripping it out soon. really hope something good goes there.
>>2736439If I was CEO of Disney I would do a complete overhaul of Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom. You don't need to re-construct Splash, just rename it and both sides are satisfied.
>>2736439I'd get rid of Frozen in EPCOT and replace it with an improved version of Maelstrom. Simultaneously, I'd port over the new Frozen ride from Tokyo into Fantasyland to keep the fans of the film happy.
>>2736439>if you were CEO of Disney what would you do?Build a hyper coaster themed to some IP, doesn't matter which one the paypigs will love it no matter what. Then the assblasted "muh immersion muh sightlines" retards will seethe forever (but will still keep coughing up cash to attend, so no loss)
>>2736585nono build a strata themed to fucking the good dinosaur or some shit
>>2736414Just make it into a Zelda area at this point.If you did the entire swath from the Sinbad theater and Poseidon's Fury show buildings, down to Mythos, there's plenty of space.Proposal:>Castle Town with restaurants/shopping where Mythos is.>Deku Tree/Lost Woods back where the Theatre is now, with a traditional dark ride taking place inside the tree>Temple of Time walkthrough/interactive thing where Poseidon'a Fury is now.
>Flights still super expensive for the month I wanted to go to Cali for theme parks.Damn it.Is there a better month to choose?
>>2736617I would look at late Aug/Early Sep if you don't mind delaying your trip that long. Would probably be able to get Horror Nights in there as well. Parks are usually less crowed around this time
I'm thinking of first week of November/last week of October to do the Universal parks next week bros. I want to catch the tail-end of horror nights and hoping to do 2 days of Epic Universe. Will probably do Epcot because that is the only park I didn't do when I went years ago, possibly MK as well. Most likely gonna go solo, good idea bros?
>>2736141The Jimmy Fallon ride is good.
>>2736409I thought I'd like Islands a million times more, but they were actually pretty even for me. Islands has a much better lineup of rides, but Studios is just so kino to walk around in. I love catching the Blues Brothers show.
>>2736753No it is not.>>2736594>getting rid of MythosGet out.>>2736500>"It'll offend the real voodoo practitioners"Yeah, because a ton of mud-cake eating, bone-in-nose Haitians are going to Disney lmao
>>2736749>late Aug/Early SepOh so that's a good time for Cali as well as Florida?I'm not too interested in Horror Nights.
>>2736777I went late sept and had a good time (just missed a weird 40c heatwave). Disney was unexpectedly busy (probably oogies bash and passholder days plus haunted mansion being boarding pass, indy and sm being closed, universal was quiet. Caught all the Halloween stuff.Flights were around £150 cheaper than that did an A380 BA flight and it was the smoothest take off and landings I've ever had. Could do it even cheaper going Norse if you don't mind lgw
>>2736834>smoothest take off and landings everare you serious judging a holiday on this kek? are you 80?
>>2736836It's 11hours and a huge time zone difference london to LAX, smoothness of flight matters and you have lots of options on that route
Honestly they should just renamed Hollywood studios to disney cartoonland
>>2736585This would be great. Just plop a clone of Mako down and theme it to some shitty Pixar movie. Doesn't matter which park or which land because they don't care about that anymore. Make all the sightlines autists seethe. Maybe put it in Epcot for maximum seething. I'll call it Coco Loco and put the station in Mexico but have the layout go out and back along the main World Showcase walkway past several other countries. Despite this it would be one of the two most popular rides in the park (even though you could ride the same coaster a few miles down the road with little to no wait most days)
>>2736861They should certainly drop the "Studios" from the name since there is almost no studio infrastructure remaining outside of some leftover movie set theming like at Star Tours and ABC Commissary and possibly elsewhere. I think another name change is unlikely but it's only been called Hollywood Studios for 16 years and they did change the one in Paris recently. By the same logic they should rename California Adventure too.
How much is Disney shitting itself over epic universe rn?
>>2736862I can do you one better, remove American Adventure and put the station there to give people politically charged reasons to seethe about or defend it,and put it in the center of the lagoon with big fiberglass character figures.
>>2736878Well I imagine the introduction of Lightning Lane Premier Pass was them attempting to squeeze a bit more money out of their current guests before Epic Universe takes a big bite of their Orlando market.
>>2736878I assume that they still think they're invincible. There won't be any panic until attendance starts to drop.
>>2736901Isn't this still locked behind buying a $700+ hotel room? The kind of person looking to blow that kind of cash has to be able to figure out that not all rides are priced equally if they are that time conscious.
>>2736916>Isn't this still locked behind buying a $700+ hotel room?Nah that was just for the first month, now anyone staying onsite can buy it even in the value resorts.
>>2736917Guess they figured out the "once in a lifetime" type to get tricked into such a bad value aren't staying at the deluxe resorts.
>>2734245>Most materials people are around and interact with every day are flammable.you are a retard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxiOXZ55hbc
>>2737186>100 fat Americans died because they were too out of shape to just hold their breath for a minute to avoid the smoketruly a tragedy
>>2737186Absolutely seething lol
>spent 20 minutes out of a 60 minute wait in the hot florida sun at tronso I was right, this ride has terrible line capacity problems
>>2737232Seething is when you call out a sociopathic contrarian for being dumb
>>2737212if you take a single breath of that toxic black smoke, you go unconsciously immediately and suffocate
>>2737333That's why I said they should hold their breath, dummy
>>2737341you're a fat loser who hasnt done anything difficult in your life, correct?too bad \, your mother wasnt in there that night. heartless peace of shit.
>>2737345>too bad \, your mothernow you're claiming to be my mother? I think you've inhaled some of that smoke buddy.
>>2736053I honestly think RRR is the best ride in studios... its a shame its going away.A drift / spinning coaster could be awesome though. If they keep a musical element, and add spinning, universal could get their own cosmic rewind, which is arguably the best ride in Florida.I'm actually kinda disappointed that stardust racers isnt an indoor space mountain type coaster. if they enclosed it, and added tron / cosmic rewind elements, it could be the #1 coaster of all time...
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>>2737392you're the one shilling for the park. you are a fat loser incapable of being genuine. idiot
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>>2737390>cosmic rewind>better than Iron Gwazi/Velocicoaster (or even Hagrid's if you value theming that much)>"why isn't this multi-launch thrill coaster like Space Mountain"Certified Disney Adult moment
>>2737408Modern Disney can't even theme the gravity buildings for indoor coasters anymore. They just build giant boxes and pray what little facade they give them is enough to distract you.The "Only lighting at night is on the trains themselves so they look like comets going by" gimmick on Stardust Racers is at least a clever way to do an outdoor space themed coaster.
>>2737408Comparing a family coaster to full white knuckle coasters is just too apples:oranges.Cosmic Rewind gives you sensations you don't get on other coasters, is silky smooth and is about as intense as you can realistically make a family coaster. The music also works really well.Hagrids on the other hand throws non-stop fun elements at you, manages to be an immersive outdoor coaster but (despite some more forceful airtime) isn't as strong as a rollercoaster.I consider Cosmic Rewind as good as hagrids. My measure of a great family ride is how many people come off smiling or laughing and both of those coasters get near to to entire trains of this (the exception being a small number of people who find them a bit too much and struggle to get out the seats)
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>>2737423Counterpoint: Harry Potter is still fondly remembered by 99% of the population while no one except Redditors has cared about GotG for the better part of a decade.
>>2737426NTA but IP popularity =/= ride quality. See Cars Land (DCA version) or the Waterworld show. Or for the opposite, see F&F, Mario Kart, or Smuggler's Run.
>>2737428Waterworld is such a great show, wish we'd get a more modern stunt show, everything indoors are song and dance shows now. At least try and update the indy show to fix the slow as fuck scene change.At least the HTTYD and Harry Potter are getting decent looking shows
>>2737466>wish we'd get a more modern stunt showthe bourne stuntacular?
>>2737472Forgot about that, it's pretty damn creative. Shame about the boring preshow
>>2737489I would have liked to see Bourne Stuntacular, but it was down for maintenance the whole time I was there.
>>2737408fight me
>>2737514What about Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey?
>>2737534not a coaster
>>2737514>Rip Ride Rockit in A-Tier>Tron in S-TierMy man.
>>2737601Tron just feels like it needs another 10 seconds of ride time. Maybe a forceful helix in the dark before the bit it enters the main building after the launch so you get a transition to the grid and you don't feel like you've lost all the speed to the block brakes
>>2737604It's still probably my favourite ride at WDW now.
>>2737514>shit shite cock-it in A tier
>>2737514Put Tron in B and Space Mountain in S and I'll shake your hand and give you a kiss
Florida is going to get shaken up a lot in 2025...>big thunder down for the year>rock n' roller coaster getting rethemed>muppets going away>rip ride rockit going away>dinosaur going awayI'm glad we are getting epic, but its sad to lose so many all at once... who knows how long disney will take to open something new
>>2737731forget new will whatever new they get actually be good?
>>2737731Rock N' Roller coaster is criminally underrated. It's a great coaster and the theming, in my opinion, is perfect (though I'm admittedly a huge Aerosmith fag). ESPECIALLY the area when you're about to board, it's just so well done. No way adding the Muppets does it any justice.
Iran bringing the kino for 2025
>>2737752Some durkadurka engineer seriously got infatuated by Goliath while playing RCT2 to the point of making a cheap Twister Coaster in its colors then making a 1:1 recreation of that Twister Coaster in real life.
>>2737514Kumba is S tier you WHORE. Show some fucking respect!
New Intimin vertical launch confirmed for RRR replacement btw. Same height just with a launch up the tower. Formal announcement within the month.
>>2737871Vertical lauch to vertical drop seems like it would make for some really weird forces. Wonder if it'll be multiple cars so that it doesn't need as many block brakes
>>2737752Built in-house by a Persian company apparently. With B&M-style box track and similar supports (but more than B&M would use). Reminds me of SFMM Goliath or SFOT Titan but with an inversion
>>2737870Kumba was S tier in 1993. Interlocking corkscrews are iconic. They built it and the pathways to make it look like it was part of the terrain and hidden which is great. It still rides good in 2024. It’s the epitome of a steel roller coaster IMO but I don’t think it’s S tier any longer, maybe A at best. The rumors of its demise are legit though, the park has been mulling its removal for the past few years. It was painted a couple years ago and received new signage this year (which was meant for a couple years ago). So it might be around a tiny bit longer but it’s not long for this world. One of the better replacement ideas I’ve read is to use its plot for part of the rumored giga and make it a spiritual successor
>>2737894I think it's so iconic to tampa bay that it deserves a full retrack with maybe an added element thrown in. It's to Busch Gardens what Pirates is to Magic Kingdom.
>>2737731This is all a nothing burger most won’t even notice. The only thing notable being down is BTM. It’s not as bad as Great Adventure losing 4 attractions including Kingda fucking Ka and being left with a 2025 lineup that’s objectively worse than what the park overall had 20 years ago.
>>2737898I agree but I don’t think “United Parks” will do it. Hulk’s “retrack” was a complete replacement of the entire track and its supports plus new trains. Supposedly the only thing remaining was the track in the station but I doubt that, if they replaced 99% of the track and supports why would they leave anything? I don’t think United is going to pay for a new Kumba to replace Kumba and that’s what it would need. Best we can hope for is Kumba 325.
>>2737894where did the "Kumba is going soon" rumors originate?
I always found Montu highly overrated even when it was new. Top Gun or whatever they call it now was superior
>>2737902*crushes you with G-Force in your path*
>>2737901From park employees, supposedly it’s been tossed around for years. Screamscape falsely implied it would happen soon a few years ago and the park itself responded saying it wasn’t going anywhere but it probably was and then they changed their mind. I don’t think Kumba will be there in 5 years unless they give it the Hulk & Nemesis treatment. And I think that’s unlikely. I just wish I could have ridden it in 1993, that must have been mind blowing for that time.. same applies to Batman and the inverts. Speaking of……>>2737903Afterburn (formerly Top Gun, the one >>2737902 is referring to) also has this batwing element. Most consider Monty to be the best invert but I’m pretty indifferent over inverts. They’re kinda samey. Dueling Dragons (either side) was my fav due to the vertical loops where you could see the other side when it was dueling.
>>2737906>I don’t think Kumba will be there in 5 years unless they give it the Hulk & Nemesis treatment.Idk, the first Batmans and a few others from Kumba's time are still around and no one's talking about their removal
>caring this much about COOMba coasterngmi
>>2737919They have less cycles compared to Kumba since they’re not located at parks with 365 day operation. Still the source of Kumba’s possible closure rumors are park employees who say the park has talked about it. There’s been enough where I believe them. A B&M newer than Kumba is being scrapped right now too, only the third B&M besides the dueling dragons (and Hulk and Nemesis if they count)
>>2737970It’s an iconic coaster that was very important for Busch Gardens Tampa.
I hope SFOT is actually getting that giga dive they shopped around with the surveys cedar fair always wanted to get into Texas so them going in on making over Texas a primary park doesn't seem outlandish to me
>>2737970Walking to the back of the park and hearing the roar of Kumba get closer and closer is such an iconic experience to the park I cant imagine BGT without it.
>>2738042Well its currently not running; it’s been closed for over a week and the rumor mill says it won’t open again in 2024… then again the rumor mill said the Serengeti Flyer wouldn’t re-open until the spring but it re-opened a couple weeks ago. If it misses the busy Christmas season (where it can be over an hour wait to ride it) that’s not a good sign
>>2738042B&M roar is the best coaster sound. Hulk used to roar from Citywalk and all the way from the nearby hotels. NuHulk is filled with sand and still roars compared to other newer B&Ms but it’s muted compared with the original
>>2736439Bring back the Br'er animals for an entirely new ride in Animal Kingdom - the Kino option
>>2733828I'm a fucking lucky dude, grew up in Jersey, worked at Great Adventure for a bit, now I live in Western PA. I've gotten on both strata's as they were originally intended.Now I just need to get to Hershey before Storm Runner gets the axe. Intamin Accelerators are the best coasters on the planet, just edging out Arrow loopers/4D coasters
>>2734392>>2734395For this reason I'm still holding out with PC1. Besides my Y2K Kennywood replica is too far along to abandon.
>>2737514You are one hell of a manchild Disney Adult. Touch non-Floridian grass. Going to one of the mid tier Cedar Fair or Six Flags park would be enough to shake up this pussified list. RNRC Is the only one I won't disagree with terribly. It's a fun experience, I like Aerosmith and as a car guy the 1960 Cadillac looking trains always have gotten my attention.
>>2738122>it’s been closed for over a week and the rumor mill says it won’t open again in 2024Year-round parks do have to take rides down for maintenance at some point, could just be that
>>2738233>Florida coaster tier list>"WHY ONLY FLORIDA COASTERS??"I've been to cedar point, kings island, and magic mountain in the past couple years, and FL has everything they have, but better... (ok minus X2/TTD/woodies...)Orlando is by far the best place in the world to live for coaster enthusiasts. Thats mainly why I moved here
Fun fact: The blue area under Kong here used to be a 3ft deep pool with real water in it. It was causing mildew issues with the surrounding theming so it was drained and painted blue only a few months into grand opening.
>>2738298>Orlando is by far the best place in the world to live for coaster enthusiastsYeah if you like mild family coasters. It's okay to admit you're scared of "the big ones" lol
>>2738327A coaster without theming is like sex without foreplay
>>2738333theming is a minor garnish
>>2738344Just say you live near a six flags so we can all laugh at you
>>2738333>>2738365I could take your kind more seriously if you just admitted you were scared of real roller coasters but you always fall back on some excuse, namely "lack of theming." Doing so just makes you look like an even bigger pussy btw
>>2738327Florida literally has Velocicoaster and Iron Gwazi, you're probably just mad that nobody likes forceless loopers from the 90s anymore.
>>2738333>Disney Adults would unironically rather wait for Slinky Dog Dash than pic related
>>2738370Bare steel coasters all rook da same. With how often layouts get cloned to multiple parks, sometimes that's literal. Theming's a necessity to give them their own identity.
>>2738408if the ride's good the ride's good theming is a bonus
>disney disney disney>universal universal universalI'm just happy to see a dive and raptor within day trip distance next year.
>>2738390Why would you care, you won't get on either.>>2738408Children get on hypercoasters and you almost piss on yourself just thinking about entering the line.
>>2738419>next yearA little late for that
>>2738412A bonus, >>2738233Said it best, Rock N' Rollercoaster is solid enough but Xpress at Walibi ; well, less so.Theming isn't necessary, if the coaster is fun and forceful you'll be going too out of control to even notice a set piece here or there. The only majorly relevant theming is when they are set in a themed area that compliments the ride, such as King Da Ka and the Golden Kingdom section built to compliment it; that is until they started cheapening the experience.Or back when Intimidator 305 was still based and they had all the Dale Earnhardt stuff around with an entry that looks like a tunnel into the infield of a racetrack.Picrel, Walibi Holland's X-Press, it's a RNRC clone and it looks a whole lot less impressive without the Cadillac trains or big "gravity building"
>>2738420>Children get on hypercoasters and you almost piss on yourself just thinking about entering the line.Mako is literally in the post you got worked up over, if anyone is pissing on themselves it's you
>>2738421What?
>>2738222Bumping this because I have no idea which board has a thread for Planet Coaster
>>2738425I'm a retard I thought you meant a raptor and a dive within day trip distance from each other
>>2738423Nice cope. Just kidding. Your cope sucks shit.
>>2738428I was referring to rakshasa and fire runner
ok this bioreconstruct guy is definitely on the spectrum
>>2738446>Guy who spends most of his time getting helicopter flights over theme parks to take aerial photos is autisticimagine my shock
>>2738408>he can't appreciate a 200+ foot marvel of engineeringAre you brown?
>>2738457Only caring about sheer thrill and nothing else is probably the most brown /rcg/ related thing one can do.Plus if you want to talk "marvel of enginnering" I would use the stratas as an example rather than yet another coaster with a chain lift.
>>2738469Just admit you're a grown adult who is too scared to ride them instead of coming up with excuse after excuse about why you won't
>>2738482mako
>>2738391They replaced their 200+ foot intamin impulse with a wild mouse btw
>>2738485I don't believe you
>>2738487oh no! not a shitty useless twisty thing that just went back and forth what a horrible loss!
>>2738489I think you're just scared of tall coasters
>>2738490I like tall coasters that actually do shit ehn your park has both the world's first hyper, giga, and hybrid hyper going back and forth a bit doesn't cut it
>>2738487>>2738489Intamin coasters are pricier than most to maintain
>>2738490We've all been on all the big coasters... stop acting like its a big achievement to get on the big boy rides.I'm sorry that is the most impressive thing you've ever done with your life.
>>2738513I was mocking the guy seething about the florida parks
>>2738513He's just mad that all his favorite parks are now closed for the next 6 months lol. taking it out on the sunshine state
>>2738469That’s Fury 325, one of the best coasters on the planet. With “all the stratas” SBNO it’s technically the tallest operating coaster in the Americas. Its lift hill and drop does look like the other B&M hypers and gigas though and the treble clef would have been the better element to show off.I think theming is cool and it’s a bonus when it’s there but it’s hard to theme a roller coaster. Most of Velocicoaster’s ride duration is unthemed. You can theme the queue and the brake runs. Or build a box around it and put projections on the walls. Or slow it down for scenes and then launch it back up to speed (which isn’t suitable for a thrill coaster pacing). During the gravity portion, most riders wouldn’t even see theming. Maverick has canyon rock work at the beginning and I like it a lot but most people are surprised that it’s there because they don’t notice it on the ride.
>>2738513>We've all been on all the big coasters... stop acting like its a big achievement to get on the big boy rides.>I'm sorry that is the most impressive thing you've ever done with your life.Assblasted Disney adult
>>2738491It was super fun though and you were right alongside the beach. The LIM launches were forceful and launched inverts are rare. It was expensive to maintain and could operate with open restraints which was a safety issue.
>>2738528Many coasters can operate with open restraints
>>2738528>It was super fun thoughit's a less engaging boomerang that happens to be tall
>>2738298>FL has everything they have, but betterFlorida doesn’t have a 90+ mph coaster. Iron Gwazi is the fastest coaster at 76mph and though it’s great, it’s not better than Steel Vengeance. If Florida had a giga I might put it over Ohio for coasters. A season pass to visit both Kings Island and Cedar Point isn’t much more than a 1 day pass at the major Orlando theme parks though.
>>2738531Yes but of the ones that do, how many launch to 50mph right out of the station? The other impulses probably do but they won’t be around much longer.>>2738535Did you ever ride it? I never even thought about it being tall, just that it was fun. It would get a speed bump from the LIMs every time you went through the station. And the LIMs made this sound that sounded like a scream. That plus the beach beneath you was great. But apparently it was a ride that you either loved like me or thought was meh.
Forget ride experience and theming for a moment. What is your number one coaster based on the views it provides alone? Mine is easily Fujiyama.
>>2738567Having not been there, I'll say either the cool industrial steel mill aesthetic you can see from Phantom's Revenge or the clear shot of Lake Erie from the top of Dragster.
>>2738567A few arguably better flying coasters have been made since, but none quite replicate that feeling of soaring above a mountain with nothing but the vest preventing you from falling to your death.
>>2738584Don't forget the road where you can see the surrounding hills upside down
>>2738587>the roadMeant the roll, don't know how I fucked up that bad
