Just got back from a 5-day trip to Kyiv. I'm gonna post a load of my photos here. Feel free to ask questions.Itinerary: I got an early flight from my home city to Krakow, then took a train to Krakow centre. From there I picked up my sleeper train tickets from the post office, caught a second train to Przemysl and killed a few hours by getting zurek and pierogi at a small cafe. I wandered around Przemysl for an hour or so; nice town. Then I waited in line for 10 mins at the immigration building, crossed through and caught a sleeper train
I was the only person in my four-berth couchette, which was pretty comfy. I read my book, wrote my diary and managed to get a good night's sleep. In the morning my friend picked me up and we went back to her flat. This is in a commieblock dorm area of the city.
We went for a walk through the city. This is the belltower and domes of St Michael's monastery.
Outside St Michaels there is a small display of destroyed Russian military vehicles. Most of these were taken from Bucha; that's where Putin's 2022 attempt to take Kyiv got to. Kinda amazing that the Ukrainians stopped them there; Bucha is a 45 minute drive from Kyiv.
Orthodox churches and monasteries, of which there are very many in Kyiv, are extremely garish on the inside. I prefer the outsides; far more elegant.
The artwork was a bit wild, also.
The weather was appalling. We took a walk through the mosaic park.
Last pic for tonight as I need to pack for a drive tomorrow, and sleep. The mosaic park was really cool; great views from the upper town down into Podil. Feel free to ask questions and I will make every effort to answer them tomorrow.
Are you jewish?
>>2743301Does Vareniki Katyusha food chain still alive? I had a blast eating there in '17
>>2743294did you fugg
>>2743301Did conscription police confront you?
>>2743325No>>2743368I didn't notice, sorry.>>2743381No. She is a friend and I am in a long-term relationship.>>2743389No. We saw them speaking to other people and checking papers, but maybe I just looked too obviously foreign?
Lots of really cool orthodox churches.
Lots of the buildings, in the upper town and in Podil, have cool murals painted on them. A lot of the murals are about the war. Some smaller ones are tributes to people who have been killed in the war. There are also lots of posters and adverts showing people how they can volunteer or otherwise support the military.
My friend translated all these posters etc for me. Can't remember what this one says. They were really interesting and definitely designed to appeal to young men in particular. Lots of Ukrainians have enlisted voluntarily.
There's a cool funicular railway linking the upper town and the old dock area, by the Dnieper. It costs about 20c to ride.
Tributes to fallen soldiers in the maidan. This square is where the 2014 revolution of dignity started. The tributes are grouped by battallion; each battalion has its own area, with its flag. I found this pretty moving desu; so many of them were so young. Fucking Russians.
The metro system is also part of the city's bomb shelter. The underground was super efficient; we used it a lot.
Some beautiful mosaics in the underground.
Ngl I thought this advert was cool af. A motorbike, a hot bird holding a gun, a helicopter...it has everything.
The glass on the door at the front of my friends building has been sellotaped in case a bomb falls nearby.
The next day we went to some art galleries. This one was about traditional Ukrainian Christmas celebrations.
I won't post too much art, but the Ukrainian Christmas stuff was really interesting. There's a whole parade with loads of set characters; death, a she-goat, an old woman etc.
There were some cool contemporary art installations inspired by the oldtime Christmas traditions.
Went to a hipster bar and listened to some drum and synth lol. They were fundraising for drones; see the QR codes on the one hanging from the ceiling. Very young, hip crowd at this bar.
Little Putins hanging by their necks from a wine glass.
Some arty shots of my friends commieblock lol
Night city
This is the mother Ukraine statue. It was built in Soviet times and faces Moscow. The hammer and sickle on the shield were removed last year and replaced with the trident. It is over 100m tall and made of titanium.
The soviet-era WWII memorial.
Merry Christmas, /trv/. I apologise for making a travel thread that isn't a thinly veiled coomer thread. I hope you're enjoying it and I will post more tomorrow.
Any issues at immigration?
Great thread. Merry Christmas.
>>2744148thanks anon, good thread
comfy thread. thanks for sharing
>>2744152Nope. On the way in the sleeper train stopped at the border, guards came on and stamped my passport. On the way out...that's a story for later on in this thread.>>2744200>>2744204You're welcome>>2744211It was a comfy trip, in some ways.
This way to Moscow.
This was used to evacuate Bucha during the 2022 Russian advance. Lots of bullet holes.
The inside of one of those orthodox churches
Comfy oldschool tram system.I should talk about we the food. We ate out every lunch and dinner. The food was amazing; traditional Ukrainian, some Crimean tartar style, some westerm. It was all really good, fresh and cheap. The kind of meal that would set me back £40 in Bongland was £15 in Kyiv.
Went back past the memorials in the day. Several more had been added.
We visited this crazy oldschool gym on an island in the Dnieper. Truly a magical place.
This is from an overgrown cemetery in the woods. The building is the mausoleum of two Polish brothers, top surgeons, who settled in Kyiv.
We walked through the woods and came to Babyn Yar.I'm not gonna type out the story of Babyn Yar here. Look up the article on Wikipedia. It's a grisly event from the holocaust. This memorial takes the form of a fold-up synagogue. Amazingly, it folds shut so that it looks like a book.
Another part of the memorial. The metal has been shot through with the number and calibre of bullets used in the executions.
Beautiful thread, thank you so much. Please keep going
>this is where the floods of refugees in my city are coming from>looks perfectly fine
>>2744344>fund ongoing war in country>bitch when refugees from that war show upEnjoy it, faggot
>>2744344Being in peaceful sunny Laos, I can't even comprehend choosing to visit a cold dreary place like Kiev, full of hatred and rage.
>>2744141>They were fundraising for drones;Ffs. I'd like to visit Ukraine but I don't want to be gay
>>2744204>thanks anon, good thread>>2744211>comfy thread. thanks for sharingThis
>>2744402>I don't want to be gaytoo late
There are now direct overnight sleeper trains from Budapest, so I was thinking of visiting. Based on the photos though, I think I will wait until it's been de-Nazified.>>2744141>Very young, hip crowd at this bar.Hmmm... I wonder why locals over the age of, say, twenty five, might not want to be found at the club.
>>2744412>I think I will wait until it's been de-Nazifiedshalom 2 more weeks btw
>>2744412Get fucked zigger
>>2744257>>2744403Thanks, glad you're enjoying it. >>2744344I don't blame anyone for leaving. Missile strikes and drone strikes kill people most days; I wouldn't want to live under that. As for the fighting-age men who have left Ukraine, I'm not going to condemn their behaviour until I have been in the same situation and know what I'd do, which hopefully will never happen.>>2744395Enjoy LaosNow to tell the story of leaving Ukraine. I wasn't able to get a train ticket out so I booked a flix bus from Kyiv to Krakow. This left at 2045 and went overnight, so I resigned myself to a night of bad sleep and arriving at Krakow at 6am. This did not go according to plan. All was well till we reached the border and joined a queue of 30 buses. Each bus was taking well over an hour to to go through the border, so clearly I was going to be massively delayed. After we had been stationary for 2 hours I got my luggage (small, free Ryanair carry-on only) and walked to the front of the queue. Here I started speaking with the bus drivers; third one back was going to Krakow an took my 20 euros to let me on kek. Had to wait another three hours to get through security but I got to Krakow at around 2100. Got some food, had a night in a hostel then next day I got the train to Wroclaw and flew home from there. So I did end up delayed by a day but it wasn't awful and only cost me another £50 all-in. I hope you all enjoyed the story of my trip to Kyiv. The Ukrainians I met were all sound, decent people and I hate that their country is under attack from POS Ruzzians. The Ukrainian sense of humour is extremely dark; I was in Kyiv when their security services assassinated that Russian general using an electric scooter packed with explosives (kek) and there were memes of it showing on official billboards.
Nice thread, I did a year of uni in Poland in 2018 and I knew people who visited Ukraine but I never went, I wish I had.
>>2744415>>2744429Why aren't you on the fronline yet?
>>2744126theres a reason Western news only talks about Russian casualties, an entire generation of Ukrainian men have been wiped out and leaders dont want to admit they prolonged the war for nothing.
>>2744432>move the traditional Orthodox date of Christmas to a pozzled one>refuse Putin's holiday ceasefire>cry when missiles arrives ... ON CHRISTMAS!!11I hope that their dark humour will carry them far.
>>2744412>de-Nazified
>>2744536shouldn't you be shooting down another civilian airliner, ivan?>>2744544>all the hohols have been killed>russia still can't take kursk, nevermind Kharkiv lollmao even
>>2744546>Guy's let's have a truce!>Yeah just remove all your troops from the areas we say we have annexed, without us having to fight you for that land>What do you mean you refuse our truce?God I wish I wasn't running out of semi-literate peasants to send West. >>27445445:1, seethe harder Igor. >>2744553Simultaneously winning and calling for a truce, this seems likely. Pic related; Ukrainian legpress machine.
>>2744571puccians are big mad that Ukraine dumped their satanic Christmas date of January 7th for the Chad Christmas date of December 25th, so jewtin fired a bunch of missiles on Christmas Day to kill White Christians. Very jewish behavior from moscow as usual
>>2744574Pic related, this is how Moscow celebrated December 25th
>>2744574Not real Christians if they moved the date nuff said
>>2744546Not even /trv/ stays hidden from paid russian shills. Sad. Your lies belong on /pol/ not here.
>>2744544>prolonged the war for nothingYou could make the same argument for any war. The Ukrainians are fighting for independence from a hostile foreign neighbor who wants to steal their land. They have every reason to fight. Come January when Trump takes office, the war will likely end and Ukraine will still be an independent country. They lost some land, but they will win the war.
>>2744130>a hot birdYou're older than 40, aren't you?
>>2744824>they will win the warlollmao even
decent thread. love Kyiv. lived there for 2 years and went out when the war started to volunteer. really wanna go back, but the gf isn't keen. >>2744432lmao buses from UA to PL, and vice versa, are fucking grim. the arrival times are always an absolute joke.
>>2744248The island around Hydropark station is cool. Always a fun part of the metro journey when the train leaves the hill, and you get to see the hueg river.Love how dusty the island feels. In summer it's absolutely heaving, with people drinking beer everywhere. There's a dancing area somewhere, where they play old music and a bunch of old people dance.Was watching with my gf one day, and some old woman grabbed me and made me dance with her. awkward as fuck.
>>2743294why quality so shitty
>>2745128what more could you possibly get from that pic with more megoypixels?
>>2744796>noooo /trv/ and /k/ should be our safespace!
>>2745140From the one in the OP nothing because it's on a moving train so you'd need a higher shutter speed to capture anything that will not be remotely blurry, and it's going to ruin the lighting which is very dark to begin with.But pictures like >>2743296 >>2743297 >>2743298 and some of the others are very good. Interesting subjects, composition is alright, just need to be more detailed and could do with a bit of editing. Nothing fancy, just play with the sliders in the windows photo editor until you come up with something you like.
Even sucking a dick isn't as gay as supporting Ukraine
>>2745162idk, supporting the country with the highest AIDS rate in all of Eurasia seems pretty gay to meanybody know if Gilticus is posted btw?
Kiev
>>2743294Anon, how easy was it to get from Poland to Ukraine? Were you able to use a credit card over there (presuming you are from Europe/NA?) How did you go about booking hotel?
>>2745149Yet somehow, despite all of this, Ukraine is the country in need of de-nazification. This is the finest Russian logic.>>2745163Fro wikipedia: There are several versions of the spread of the disease within the country. The officially registered 'Patient Zero' was a Zaporizhzhia engineer and military translator, Vladimir Krasichkov, who was on assignment in Tanzania in 1981. During his service, he had sexual contact with a local carrier. When he returned to Moscow, where he worked in one of the military units, he had sexual intercourse with 25 conscript soldiers of the USSR who, after demobilisation, dispersed across the country.>>2745150This is fair criticism, I resized them as the original files were too big to upload. I guess I overdid it a bit. >>2745177Poland to Ukraine was no problem. Booked the train via Polrail website, paid in euros using my credit card (Halifax Clarity CC so I get interbank rate and can use it anywhere). I exclusively used my CC to pay for stuff in Kyiv. Only time I regretted not having money was when I'd use a public toilet and some old woman would start asking me for money (she clearly worked there and it was her job to clean it); when that happened I just got out of there asap lol. If I went again I'd take out some UA currency just to have on my person in case it was needed. I didn't stay in a hotel, I stayed on a fold-out bed in my friends flat.
>>2745183Idk supporting the jew, chinese takeover and gulaghomo seems quite gay to me
>>2745186>I guess I overdid it a bitsize limit is 4mb your pictures are 100kb on average you lazy fucker
>>2745186Aw, good to know. As an American, I would imagine I'd be fine too in that case. Thinking about going to Lviv. How did Ukrainians do on food? Like coffee, pastries, general food items?
>>2743294This is astroturfing by a Western NATO officer or Ukraine’s propaganda ministry.He mentioned the Bucha hoax:>>2743297>>2744123He pretends there are lots of Ukrainians left willing to volunteer while social media is full of TCC abducting people.>>2744126Propagandizing for the Maidan coup of Victoria Cookie Monster Nuland.>>2744141Again advertising the losing Ukrainian war effort and pretending like we are dumb enough to believe Ukrainians and not NATO states are funding the war.
>>2745211>hits all the Russian shill talking points while accusing others of being shillsAll these propaganda talking points ring hollow in the West. Anyone can see evidence of Bucha with a simple google search, or find out Maidan wasn't a coup but an impeachment of a president by Parliament, due to him ordering snipers to fire on unarmed protesters.The fact that this stuff works in Russia tells me you are very much disconnected from the world. It is sad how little Russians know about what is going on. Media censorship is a helluva drug.I wonder if you know that Kursk is occupied, that Russians shot down yet another civilian airliner, or about the fact that 10,000 Russians are dying per week, which is 3 times what American troops lost in Iraq and Afghanistan over a 22 year period. Per week. An entire generation of Russians is disappearing because of a madman. And for what? More European nations (Sweden, Finland) are joining NATO, the very thing you sought to prevent, it's the blunder of the century.
>>2745215I was born in Plainview, Long Island you cuntish British propaganda officer.Social media is full of Ukrainian soldiers cursing the Kursk gambit that is failing and dragging manpower and resources leading to gaps in the Donbas Front.From what I understand Russians are cynical and don’t believe anything any government says unlike Anglosphere whites dumb enough to believe they live in the “free world” and that they support democracy and freedom.Attached is a Snapple fact for your limey ass.
>>2745211Meds. Now.
>>2745216>I am from Plainview OblastPost electrical outlet with timestamp.You are very obvious Ivan. Your seething about "Anglo-Saxons" is also very Russian. Nobody talks like this, particularly in the US. Why are Ru shills so awful at their jobs? Hopefully you will be sent to the front to die soon.
>>2745219Russia relies on volunteers lured by high salaries to serve in Ukraine and hasn’t resorted to conscription except very briefly during 2022. In other words the total opposite of what the limey imperialist presented here where he tried to pretend there are still substantial Ukrainians willing to still volunteer in 2024:>>2744123
>>2745221>hasn’t resorted to conscriptionYet
>>2745222So you finally admit the truth propagandist? That Ukraine is relying on people kidnapped by their TCC, while most Russians fight because of high military salaries and patriotism? More and more Westerners are getting sick of the Maidan coup regime’s war fought on the basis of constant begging, lying and gaslighting.
>>2745223>So you finally admit the truth propagandist? That Ukraine is relying on people kidnapped by their TCCNobody ITT said Ukraine didn't have conscription, it's limited in scope though, under-25 year olds for example are not conscripted. Makes sense the smaller country fighting a war for its survival would need it.>while most Russians fight because of high military salaries and patriotismThanks for confirming you are a Russian shill with this idiotic statement. Most Russians that join the military are people from dirt-poor regions. The average pension in Russia is $200 USD a month and the minimum pension is like $113 a month. For many, the shitty wages in the Russian military are an improvement from literal third world poverty.As shown in this Russian ad:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn6jOlpMg1YMeanwhile Putin is moving to prepare the ground for eventual mass conscription by having people register at the military and seizing the assets of those Russians who leave the country.>More and more Westerners are getting sick of the Maidan coup regime’s war fought on the basis of constant begging, lying and gaslighting.Still waiting for you to post outlet with timestamp.
>>2745223>I was born in Plainview, Long IslandIf you were American, you'd know nobody speaks like that. Try harder, ivan
>>2745226keep in mind all of those "generous" (using that term lightly) sign-on bonuses and salaries that russia is offering are going to amount to jack shit due to russia's economic meltdown. The bonus that once could have been used to buy a car won't even buy a months worth of groceries in 2026imagine losing your limbs to a drone in some trench in Donbas only to find you're still poor as fuck and your wife is getting CHURKA'ED in Mosqueco kek. no refunds :^)
>>2745206Hmm you're right. I will upload some more in their original resolution, dunno why I thought the limit was so low. >>2745209Lviv is meant to be beautiful and hasn't been affected by the war the way that Kyiv has. I could go on about Ukrainian food all day, but you kinda have to dive in. Crimean stuff felt almost Lebanese. Lots of stuff you'd recognise from elsewhere in eastern europe - pirogi, borscht, potato pancakes - but a surprising number of fish dishes too. It was so cheap that I just ordered whatever sounded most interesting and it was all good. Lots of little coffee shops, their large supermarkets are better stocked than here in the UK (not that that is difficult). >>2745211Kek. I am not a NATO officer. I am a fairly boring 33yo guy from the UK. Not giving you more than that. Hopefully your utter failure to control the narrative in this thread on a Portugese poodle-racing forum will have you sent to the front, where the average Russian lifespan is now measured in weeks. I sincerely hope you are more adept with a rifle than you are with a keyboard. >>2745216This is correct, this is bong history. We were an exceptionally violent nation, much given to war-mongering. >>2745221High salaries: £1400/month, wow, that's a lot of money for an uneducated peas...Average lifespan at the front: One month>>2745223Ukraine's army consists of professional soldiers, those who have voluntarily enlisted and conscripts. Nobody is denying this.>>2745226Fellow truth-enjoyer. We will be waiting some time for that timestamp. Pic is one of the metro stations, the one with the cool murals.
Really enjoyed the naive/folk art exhibit, so I will post some more of those.
Interestingly, there would often be lots of paintings with a common theme. This was one of several where the young man and woman have met at the well, but the mother of the young woman is in the background, always with some sort of weapon.
At some point, clearly, one of the artists saw a picture of a woman with a deer. Which they then reproduced. And one of their mates saw that, and made a copy. And so on, with slight variations.
>>2745238Russian shill: please feel free to post some artwork from the Moscow galleries btw
>>2745239 The final deer and woman painting. There were many more.
Had to resize this one. The caption under this was hilarious. Basically 'All the other paintings we know where they got the original idea from. Something like 'This one however seems to have come out of the blue; we have no idea what they were thinking when they painted it.'
>>2745235>>2745236>>2745237>>2745238>>2745239>>2745240>>2745241Propagandist why are you bumping this /pol/ thread by sharing pics of every painting in a boring mundane Hahol museum?Literally no one does that in /trv/ besides you. But I guess NAFO loser trolls need to try harder and harder to promote Ukromania since Drumpf is threatening to cut Ukraine aid almost daily.
>>2745242Nobody but Romanians and Russians use hahol. And you have access to a computer, so you are likely not Romanian. Of course, nobody on a slow board like /trv/ is interested in aesthetic and comfy folk art. Please share some photos from your upcoming trip to Kursk, when (if) you come back.One last mural.
>>2745240Shes got cool boobiesDo you gott any photos of the stylish youth? Wish i took photos of the cool punk style them cute chicks wore, sometimes with trench coats n shitAnd then go get some chicken and Borsch at Puzata Hata
>>2745240The fuckin rack on that slut
>>2745186>exclusively used my CC to pay for stuff in UAThat's interesting. With a war underway I sure didn't expect the infrastructure to be so robust as to allow for seamless digital payment. >>2745242Nobody on /trv/ travels, that's why. You can look on 4plebs and see plenty of threads that were full of travelers sharing their opinions and experiences. Now it's 95% shitposting or generic LARPing.
>>2745186>Yet somehow, despite all of this, Ukraine is the country in need of de-nazification. This is the finest Russian logicWeak af response
>>2743294Where's that? Ive only ever heard of Kiev.
All I cab say is its going to be hilarious watching yurop bankrupt itself trying to prop up this failed state after Trump pulls all the American support next month.
>>2745700russia can name it when they take it (2 more weeks!)>>2745701>yurop will bankrupt itself2 more weeks!
>>2745700Actually it's Huev right now lol
>>2745701All I can say is its going to be hilarious watching russia bankrupt itself without having full control over a single oblast it set out to from the start of the 3-Day special denazification operation
>>2745713Russia's economy is booming and the sanctions backfired. Germany is the one getting the crushed most economically, not Russia. Stop posting natsec state infested globalhomo media. They are also trying to rehabilitate the image of an Alqaeda splinter group that now rules Damascus.
>>2745713>>2745870Here is an article where the liberal internationalist imperialists behind the Hill accidentally reported truthfully on how Russia is booming, their infrastructure is improving and they have cheaper/faster 5g than the occupied colonies of the Anglo-Americans(likely due to sanctioning Chinese telecom companies who are ahead in 5g technology):>https://thehill.com/opinion/4905975-russia-silent-war-economy/>The Western sanctions imposed in 2022 caused a sharp fall in Russia’s capital exports. Almost all the money that would have previously been channeled into luxury European real estate instead started to flow into Moscow, St. Petersburg and their suburbs. Since 2021, the average dollar price of an apartment in Moscow has risen by a staggering 43 percent, and the city government has invested huge efforts into expanding transportation facilities and stimulating private businesses in the service sector to meet growing demand.>In the last ten years, 78 new stations of the Moscow underground were built — more than in the previous four decades... The city now has the largest fleet of locally made all-electric buses in Europe, while river electric trams are bolstering Moscow’s transit infrastructure.>Although Visa and MasterCard suspended their operations in Russia, Russians continue to use Central Bank’s Instantaneous Payments System, which allows the transfer of any amount of money using one’s mobile phone number as an identifier, immediately and without commission. Russia’s capital cities are now ahead of European metropolises in using QR-code payments and facial recognition in financial transactions, and mobile data in Russia remains the cheapest and fastest in Europe. Grocery shops feature the same assortment of goods as before the war, including French wine and Italian confectionary. On the top of that, doorstep delivery of food and goods by autonomous bots is commonplace.
>>2745713>watching russia bankrupt itselfSaid increasingly nervous Western tabloid after 3 years EU economy stagnating and Russian economy growing.>without having full control over a single oblast it set out to from the start of the 3-Day special denazification operationYou do understand that the point isn't controlling some territory but the physical removal of combat-ready Ukrainian men, right? Once the enemy has no one left to fight, you can have any territory you want.
Ucranians have to be some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet. Not only the elected a kike president they are also dying in mass so some amerimutt company can claim the rights to the land and rebuild of the country, that will without a doubt be repopulated by indians/muslims/africans from all over the world.I love to know what the thoughts inside the heads of the men on the frontline are, while they lose their limbs there some western euro is doing sex tourism to kiev lol.>Inb4 vatinkI'm southern euro
>>2744412Nazis were and are heroes. Simple as.
>>2744796/pol/ here. Their lies belong nowhere.
>>2745216>>2745221>Randomly seething about Brits and muh imperialismSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>2745876i've seen this happen in my country venezuela, back in the times of hugo chavez aka el mortadelo. he opened the spigot of oil money and begun spending and spending and then spending some more. there was a little inflation at first but the economy was booming and growing at 8%, we were all very rich for a time we had the highest economic growth in latin america (from the government spending moneys) and people were vacationing in miami and buying new cars. then the government went broke and the economy collapsed in hyperinflation. you see, it wasn't real growth from investments, it was the government spending all its money reserves even what it was supposed to be reinvesting in the oil sector. when the oil price crashed and the govt money ran out the whole place collapsed. we had to flee to spain with my family when everything went to shit, i was just a kid and left all my friends behind.
>>2745890You are from a retarded South American country. Latinos are incapable in almost every field and can't do anything right, you can't compare them to a serious nation like Russia. The only semi capable Latino nations are Chile and Argentina. Also I think the sinking of the Venezeulan economy has a lot to do with the sanctions that the Anglo-American imposed on the country and the fact that Venezeula can't offer much besides oil, which other nations also have. Russia is different, it is so big and influential that if you sanction it, the sanctions will backfire on you. If you look at the Russia sanctions they have cutouts so Washington can receive refined nuclear fuels for its reactors, titanium for its aviation industry. Russia is the most resource country in the world. It also the largest country in the world and the idiot Finns and others for imposing sanctions on Russia are having their airlines take a pounding on flights to Asia as Moscow denies Finnair access to Russian airspace making journeys longer and more costly, allowing the aviation companies of friendlier countries like the Emirates, Qatar, China to expand with more flights to Europe. The sanctions are designed to try to punish Russia and also to make the rest of America's NATO colonies less economically sufficient and more dependent on the USA. German firms are moving whole factories and thousands of jobs each month to the USA to escape the sanctions and stupid green energy agenda of the Green idiots misruling in Berlin.
>>2745895>let me tell you about your countrythere weren't any american sanctions when the economic collapse started (2013). those came later when the government started killing the protestors.but sure we are all retarded and russia is superior, yet you also export mostly oil and gas. forgive me for noticing a very similar pattern (sudden, very high growth and inflation fueled out of nowhere by govt moneys). but maybe i am wrong and people are just dying to invest in sanctioned russia and it isn't the govt pumping up the economy.
>>2745895Ahaha, Russia is so influential that even fucking Abkhazia doesn't respect it anymore, Russia begs North Korea for ammo and soldiers and gives money to fucking Tajikistan to gain their favor. Russia is now a shithole like DR Congo, which also has quite a lot of natural resources. Well, it's not like much changed - Russia has been the absolute gutter of the world for all 1000 years of its history (which is finally reaching its end within a few decades as it's going to be ripped apart by Muslims)
>>2745895LolLmao even
>>2745899This article says that weaker sanctions started in 2007, ramped up in 2011 and were really ramped up when the mostly white racists base of the opposition were activated by Washington in 2014:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._sanctions_during_the_Venezuelan_crisisSo the sanctions predate economic difficulties. I literally posted an article that explained what happened:>>>2745876Russian oligarchs instead of investing tens of billions in Western nations are now forced to invest in Russia. Foreign brands instead of importing stuff are being taken by Russian companies or making factories in Russia. Russia is also one of the largest food exporters in the world, it has the most natural resources, one of the most educated populations, a high number of skilled engineers. It is nothing like a hapless disorganized, highly racially stratified, incompetent Latin American country. Some NATO members like Czech Republic, Poland, Germany have literally demilitarized most of the useful heavy equipment from their mechanized and armored brigades, creating huge operational gaps and Ukraine is still losing out thanks to the tremendous production of the Russian military industry that is alone outproducing all of NATO.
>>2745905>This article says that weaker sanctions started in 2007>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._sanctions_during_the_Venezuelan_crisis>ctlr + f = 2007>not foundOK>rest of your postOK. i was just trying to give you a friendly warning. but good luck with that.
>>2745906I mistyped they allegedly started in 2008 under the pretext of not preventing narco trafficking:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._sanctions_during_the_Venezuelan_crisis>Prior to the ongoing crisis in Venezuela, the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctioned three current or former Venezuelan government officials in 2008, saying there was evidence they had materially helped the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) in the illegal drug trade.[8] But everyone knows that the US intelligence agencies and security services are the biggest spreaders of narco trafficking, so that is just a pretext. If it were true then Colombia and Mexico should be the most sanctioned countries in the region instead of Cuba or Venezeula.Anyway, I going to stop replying because I know how stupid white/whitish Venezuelans are who make up most the opposition and look at American whites as Gods constantly dispensing the truth and democracy.
>>2745916>three individuals were sanctioned, not the country's trade>usa was the main buyer of venezuela oil until 2019>but the 2013 crisis was the fault of 2019 sanctionsOK
>>2745918The US also funded the protestors against Chavez/Maduro and even pretends the elections are unfair and proclaims its own leader Juan Guaidó and if he steps foot amongst regular Venezeulans to eat at a restaurant he is mobbed and heckled for being a traitor. That is what the cuntish Anglo-American Empire and State Department do they have preferred candidates in every foreign election and try to muscle or cheat their preferred candidate into power. They did the same in Ukraine: Victoria Nuland of the State Department and Pyatt the US Ambassador had one of their conversations on an unsecure phone leaked where they proposed who they liked to see win in the recent Ukrainan elections and all their predictions were engineered into happening:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XNN0Yt6D8But when the preferred State Department candidate looses like in Romania they want to rerun elections when anti-globalist Calin Georgescu wins or they make Maidan like violent protests like what happened after Georgian Dreams recent victory. But l already know most you retarded whitish South Americans in majority non-white countries will almost always side with the Anglo-American Empire versus your own country and the majority of the people living there...
>>2745923>venezuelan elections are fair and the protests are just organized by the US>nevermind the 50,000 that have been murdered or were abducted by the government, they are western spiesbro, if i wanted to hear venezuelan government propaganda i can always watch the telesur channel online. i thought i was talking to a real person.you are only making me doubt the russian narrative even more because if you are parroting maduro who created the greatest refugee crisis in the history of the western hemisphere, your ukraine line is probably the same kind of bullshit.
>>2743294>ukrops getting snatched off the streets while westies go there to get virtue signalling points while practicing sex tourism on ukrainians who are trapped in the country by law on pain of deathfucking kek, what a world this is
>>2745890>>2745899>>2745926You're trying to argue with a vatnig, it's pointless. They've been so brainwashed by propaganda by this point it's completely useless. They refuse to accept that jewtin has signed russia's death warrant and ensured it's status as a proxy slave chink state for the next century. If you take a look at these comments, it's projection after projection (limbless/dead men, fighting for jews, whore women, selling out country to become proxy slave state). I think deep down, they know this is true for them as well. I'm a Canadian in Argentina now, and it's filled with russian IT specialists and women applying for citizenship or trying to hop on a foreign dick. I saw it in Georgia as well. russia is at well over 700,000 killed in wounded in Ukraine in just 3 years, while they control less territory than they had in the first couple months. I think they refuse to accept the truth because it's too horrendous to come to the realization of how badly this is going to end for them, so they just play along with the russian state line of, "everything is fine, don't believe anything but what we tell you."I've also met a lot of Venezuelans here. Of course none of them defend Maduro and have been explained to me how corrupt and rigged the elections are there. You can be sure that anyone claiming that Maduro is a legit leader is most likely a BRICSbot and/or drinking the tankie turdie kool-aid
>>2745990>vatnigStopped reading here.
>>2745895Holy shit ziggers are pathetic.>I can disregard what you said because you're a spic. Russians are a very superior people!
>>2747147Cry about it
>>2747147>russians are a very superior peoplenot in mexico kek
