Many people say that places like Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan etc. are past their prime and their golden age was X years ago.But which places are experiencing their golden age right now? I would love to see more of those kinds of places. Or is literally the whole world just fucking deteriorating right now?
>>2747592Unironically China. I still wouldn't want to live there but it's pretty cool to go and see it.
>>2747594>chinaOP is asking about places that haven't passed their prime. china peaked in 2008
>>2747592SEA/China
India, Morocco, Turkey, Iran, Russia
>>2747602Iran peaked under the Shah retard>>2747592What you are looking for doesnt exist. The world has peaked. Civilization is on decline.
>>2747592If you mean cities, then Bangkok. I just returned from there a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised. It still has that vibrant Southeast Asian vibe, yet it feels modern and safe. There aren’t too many tourists unless you visit the party or walking streets.Honestly, I was there in 2009 and 2011, and back then, it was the worst place I had ever been to. So, I’m pleasantly surprised by how much it has changed.
>>2747610I unironically liked bangers more than chiang mai after I started staying outside of sukhumvit
>>2747594No, you all just showed up too late. It was genuinely better before Covid. Like DROWNING in pussy + every male loved you and wanted to be your friend including government workers. Nowadays they sorta don't give a shit because there's a million of you so it's not special anymore. In other words you have to seek adventure now rather than simply exist and adventure comes to you every 10 minutes.
>>2747616>incel struggles the moment he has any competitionpredictable
>>2747592When people here talk about golden ages and prime, what they mean is that the place is a third world country transitioning into a first world country (with ambiguous laws for high economic growth, lots of job opportunities for token white men but cheap first world amenities can be available).So, going strictly by that definition, Thailand, Indonesia/Malaysia,Vietnam, Turkey, Morocco, Argentina, Brazil, and probably some countries in West Africa such as Ivory Coast or GhanaI don't call these "prime". At best, you're just slumming it like a fucking retard, working as a white monkey until they discard you with no actual career opportunities or concrete solutions, and your only anchor to this country will be the babies you'll creampie into a local woman who probably came, like all asian bugs, from a traditional conservative and racist family and has no reason to do that unless she was fucking crazy or damaged goods to begin with.But if you're only a tourist, why even care about these things ? Japan looks as good as it ever will right now.
>>2747711>what they mean is that the place is a third world country transitioning into a first world country (with ambiguous laws for high economic growth, lots of job opportunities for token white men but cheap first world amenities can be available).Not at all, when /trv/ means a place in its prime it means a place that is not flooded with tourists and immigrants, a country with a unique culture that isn't globalized, almost none of the countries you listed qualifies. If there's a Starbucks there it doesn't qualify.>ThailandFull of white dorkers / sexpats, most visited tourist destination in the world, enough said.>Indonesia/MalaysiaAgain very touristy and globalized, Malaysia is almost a first world country so it's literally the opposite of what people are looking for.>VietnamMaybe qualified before COVID, now it's gotten very touristy as the type of crowds that go to Thailand have discovered it.>TurkeySecond-world country sitting at the crossroads between East and West, obviously globalized and touristy as fuck.>MoroccoFull of tourists that all do the exact same tour of the Sahara, might be OK if you go off the beaten path.>ArgentinaUninteresting Western-ish country, the only reason DNs flocked there was due to the financial crisis allowing one to have a first world experience for cheap. Not the case anymore as it has gotten expensive again.>BrazilAgain one of the most visited destinations in the world, maybe if you leave the tourist resorts you can find some gems but it can also be quite dangerous.>Ivory Coast or GhanaI don't know much about Africa to comment.But if OP wants places that are still unspoiled by globalization, I would suggest the Kingdom of Bhutan, it's a small, safe country, with a government interested in preserving the local culture, introduction of electricity was purposely delayed by the government because they knew it would upend their traditions. It's the last bastion safe from globalization.
>>2747735>what /trv/ meansI'm sorry, i thought we were talking about people who actually left their flyover mutt steppe here. Globalization happened simultaneously everywhere after WW2. How about you go back to /pol/ where you can fantasize about an age where that didn't happen (protip : before the roman empire)
>>2747761>I'm sorry, i thought we were talking about people who actually left their flyover mutt steppe hereWhile I haven't been to Bhutan (yet) I'm willing to bet I'm more well-travelled than you given that you just typed the most milketoast list of tourist destinations ever as if they were some sort esoteric tourist destinations kek. All those places are already globalized as fuck. >Globalization happened simultaneously everywhere after WW2No it didn't you fucking retarded zoomer, holy fuck. In Vietnam back in the 1990s most people still worked as farmers on rice paddies, cars barely existed, people rode bikes, modern ammenities like ACs only existed on hotels, it was like stepping on a different fucking planet. You have no idea how much the world has changed with globalization and the erosion of traditional culture.This street probably has a Starbucks now or one of those fake-ass boba-drink cafes that cater to Westerners. (Even though bubble tea is not even from Vietnam but a Taiwanese drink)
>>2747782>>2747761>globalization happened everywhere after WW2Fucking retarded zoomer
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>>2747592>But which places are experiencing their golden age right now?Sorry to say, but if I knew such a place, I wouldn't share it. If anyone else knows of any such place, I encourage you to stay quiet. Places turn to shit because they get too popular. The less is known, the better.
>>2747616>wanted to be your friend>including government workersThat's a red flag for me.
Honestly nowhere. The internet ruined everything.
>>2747891Correct but with YouTube it's all over anyway. I travel to a place on a do not ever travel warning from every government on earth and as the only foreigner in the whole island I was basically a prized pig everyone wanted.After YouTube, everyone comes there now prices have sky rocketed and attitudes to foreigners have become worse
>>2747907This, unironically Japanese cities aren't as lively as they were just 20 years ago. Young people are on their phone all the time, don't go out drinking.
>>2747592SEA is going to have a boom for sure in the coming but it’s not quite there yet. Especially as china wains due to demographic and social decay, sea with be a big trade player. I would say Singapore right now, but that country is boring as fuck.
Korea, although I suspect that is tapering off.Taiwan will be next if they play their cards right and don't get Ukraine'd.Speaking of, mainland China is in a weird place between starting to get too big (in terms of tourism) and not being able to crack past the point they are now. If they had managed to be on friendly terms with the west over the past ten years, I honestly think it would be hugely popular for tourists today - scifi cities, good food, cheap, friendly people, incredible historical sites and nature. Its not even le evil gommunism meme that scares people off, Vietnam is having its own success story at the moment, its really just about geopolitics and western media.
>>2747985>Its not even le evil gommunism meme that scares people offit really is, though. the average person doesn't want to jump through all the china/ccp bullshit just to visit the great wall and eat dumplings for a week or two. they'd rather just go to Thailand or Japan instead and avoid the hassle. China is desperate for foreign tourists, but they won't get them until the society becomes less draconian
>>2747998Nigga its really no different to Vietnam which gets heaps of tourists. For Christ's sake, if you're out at the bars in the tourist district in Hanoi at midnight you'll see the military police rock up on the back of trucks and shut down all the businesses because its the law (but turn a blind eye as the owners wave you inside as they shut the roller doors because they bribe the cops to let them operate anyway).
>>2747613Can you survive with Google Pay outside of Sukhumvit, or do you need cash.
>>2748022With Vietnam, you pay for the tourist Evisa and you're good to go for 3 months. that's that.Not even getting into the visa issues with china, which there are many, you've got to register with the local police and let them know where you're staying, can only stay at certain hotels, have to deal with their payment system and most likely download some ccp spyware mobile app that tracks your location and purchases, closed off shitty internet, sim card shenanigans, etc. >nooooo brooooo it's easy all you have to do is w, x, y, and z, then you won't have any problemshow about I go to Japan or Thailand instead and don't have any of these problems to begin with? I've been to china btw, and it's not worth the hassle
phrases like "past their prime" imply that the speaker was there to experience the so-called "prime" and can make a valid comparison between then and nowif you go to any of those countries for the first time you won't have that problem since you have nothing to compare it toFWIW i went to hong kong for the first time last year and had a really good time. saw some neat buildings, talked with interesting locals, drank and partied, saw all the touristy shit, toured the mansions, ate at night markets, what have you. never once occurred to me to think "well this is great and all but if only i was here 20 years ago it would probably be way better."
>>2747594Fpbp.IMO we’re looking for countries that are not westernized. The world is so small now because of social media and the internet in general and in China most of that shit is banned. Myanmar also has Instagram banned so it will be nice when their war ends. Russia too. People forget that a lot of the countries in their “hay day” for traveling were not that safe, including Japan where ueno was literally a black market, the yakuza was strong, ect. So China, Russia, and Myanmar check that list.
>>2748047Yeah, but I, and billions of people like "Western" culture, that's why we choose it.
>>2748047Why not just go to Africa? You could live in a mudhut and no trannies! So based!
>>2748048This is a travel board why would we not want to experience different cultures. Fucking fag kys.>>2748049This post gave me aids.
>>2748059I don't know, maybe because other cultures aren't tolerant of others and their choices/culture.
>>2748062Bait is way too obvious
>>2748067>say someone is doing something that I in fact is doingClassic Russian. You don't have to be a stereotype. You're free to forge your own path.
>>2747592Singapore
>>2747985>KoreaKorea was on the verge of entering their golden age but their politicians fucked their shit up, and now with the extreme birth rate crisis and with *even worse* politicians leading the country they're likely not going to climb back up>TaiwanTaiwan is decaying my friend, their golden age has passed>VietnamI am curious about Vietnam but I feel like they're not going to get too successful without a significant political reform
>>2748023QR pay is everywhere in Southeast Asia these days. Personally I love the feeling of security provided by a nice wad of cash, so I have no interest in using digital pay, but people use it all the time even in rural Laos.>>2747998>China is desperate for foreign touristsSource? China has been suspicious of outsiders for centuries. Even now their entire tourist visa structure is set up to pressure you into prearranged tours rather than an extended vagabonding excursion where you end up wherever you end up.
>>2748330Yeah, I don't know how people keep track of dozens of transactions a day, with weird names on your statement. I just won't be able to get cash here real soon. Gonna have to be all digital for awhile.
>>2747592Both Udon Thani (Thailand) and Vientiane (Laos) are growing into destination cities. Luang Prabang got rated as the top travel destination in Asia for this year by Lonely Planet. Haven't been but I've heard that Ipoh (Malaysia) is also taking off as a destination.Surely there must be some parts of Africa that are prospering and full of positive energy, but of course 4channers would rather be buggered by a ladyboy than see what Africa has to offer.
>>2747711Ghana is what I came here to say, but this board is scared of Africa, despite some of the greatest posts that have graced this board, both of the coom, real traveler tm, and general tourist variety have come from the few posters that been to Africa. I hope to ome day take a road trip from Accra to Lagos
>>2748341>Surely there must be some parts of Africa that are prospering and full of positive energy, but of course 4channers would rather be buggered by a ladyboy than see what Africa has to offer.Keke, posted 10 minutes apart with similar sentiments about Africa. People are going to think we're the same anon. I have been traveling to Udon Thani since 2016. It was a secret gem then. I'd stay at Centara by the mall. Or if paired up, go stay at a "resort" over in Sakhon Nakhon for $15/day. Would always rent a car to get around. First place I drove on the left.
>>2748049>no trannies!https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2023/06/01/1168993022/transgender-lgbt-rights-south-africa
