Why don't we have a general for akiya homes? For people who got one, thinking about getting one, etc. Tips, tricks, general japan real estate discussion, whatever. Are akiya homes still cheap and available? Any good deals you saw recently?
>>2824098>Why don't we have a general for akiya homes?because they're akiya for a reason: almost nobody wants them
>>2824098Because nobody fucking knows what you're even talking about you dumb weeb faggot.[-]
this belongs in /jp/ methinks, but yes akiya are still common and still go for cheap
>>2824098wtf are we gonna talk about, the prospects of buying a house in a country most of us will not live in where they speak a language we don't know
>>2824098>house: :|>house, japan: :O
i have 1k dollars in my bank account is this enough to buy a "akiya" house?
>>2824098>Why don't we have a general for akiya homes?Because no one on /trv/ is going to bother to buy one.No one, not stationed in the military or long term stable job is realistically going to bother with them or talk about them here.The amount of hoops you need to jump through to get approval for land ownership, then find a seller that will work with you on it, then do all the paperwork to own one, then all the upkeep required to maintain your job and home. Is something you just either do or don't do.
>>2824390>The amount of hoops you need to jump through to get approval for land ownership, then find a seller that will work with you on it, then do all the paperwork to own one, then all the upkeep required to maintain your job and home. Is it that hard? Im thinking of doing it unironically
>>2824426Last I looked, and rules may have changed but I doubt it has that much in the past few years off the top of my head are:1. Need a long-term visa if not resident card2. Need a traditional Japanese bank account with stamp no JCB you opened up randomly. This goes without saying that you'll need a job(almost always) or proof of absurd amounts of funds for anything that could come up in the next 20 years.3. Going to need to buy in full cash + taxes + fees and often prove you know how to pay utilities/taxes/insurance on your estate4. Have to buy in an area that allows it, not all areas just allow you to buy whatever think HOA committes on crack5. Have to show you know how to maintain the house and such if not there 100% of the timeProbably forgetting some nuances but it's a quite a few hurdles, it's more possible to buy around the bases but that's the gist of what you'll need AFTER finding a foreigner friendly agent ReMAX has a few IIRC. I've seen reddit posts where it's "lol not that hard" then forgetting to mention their wife or boyfriend is a native and they essentially got the red tape cut by that alone.
They are a bad idea and bad investment Owning property doesn't guarantee you a visa or residence in JapanThe properties are old and need repair and maintaince, maybe someone even died in thereThey are rural away from everything, which is nice if you want a peaceful life but you would need to be self sufficient working at home or wealthy so why choose thisIf you have kids there may not be a schoolYou won't make friends thereNothing to do there so you need to fund your own entertainment at home Considering all that the price isn't reasonable
>>2824203yeah but7-11 : |7-11 japan :D I would unironically pick up dinner from a 7-11 (or Lawson or whatever) if I couldnt make it to a grocery store. When was the last time you had a 7-11 DINNER?
>>2824648does it really matter if they are a bad investment when they are so fucking cheap? like I don't think anyone buys an akiya expecting them to appreciate
>>2824660I meant investment for your future, you'll never be able to sell it, you'll spend more repairing it, so if you have money to throw away why choose akiya
>>2824098Akiyas are just abandoned houses in varying degrees of disrepair, often in locations with a smaller population. They're a good investment if you:>Want to live in Japan>Can get a Japanese visa (just owning the house doesn't grant you one)>Have the money to repair it>Have a way to make money when living in Japan in a location far away from urban centersIf you fill all of these highly specific criteria then sure, buy one. But chances are you don't.
>>2824660I'll sell you rocks for cheap. Would you still buy my rocks? A lot of these houses are worth less than rocks, with my rock at least you don't have to:>pay annual property tax>pay a monthly community fee>maintain the house, cut grass during summer, etcThere's no paperwork involved too, hand over your cash and I'll give you my rocks.Unless you actually plan on living in the house and somehow make money off of it when you're not around, it's overall just a bad idea romanticized by weebs falling for the epic rural Japan tiktok house restoration driving your ebin keitruck whateverthefuck bullshit you're being fed with on social media. The good thing is at least no one will actually be uprooting their entire lives and throwing away their money because in the first place the language barrier when dealing with the paperwork with deter any undetermined weab, and ultimately none of them have residency, and those that do are probably stuck in a deadend eikaiwa job, which means buying a house is out of the question.t. actually fell for the epic rural Japan tiktok house restoration bullshit, but instead of just larping online I took my time and waited for the right house to show up. This guy has the perfect summary >>2824681
>>2824660If all you want is a cheap house just move to the midwest, probably less mold and Akiya houses are fucking dogshit to renovate unless you hire someone who's worked on them/built them.picrel>inb4 NOOO NOT MUH HEKKIN AMERICANO PLACE I NEED SOVL
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>>2824977Nta but this isn’t too much of shithole, it just needs to be slightly more maintained and then it’s pretty fair
>>2824977>922 KB>>2825042>1.12 MBDid you seriously give it a tribute and hand it back to him?...
>>2825053He smoothed out the driveway and cleared the plants from the front of the house.
>>2824977>>2825042compare this $50,000 garbage shack to an akiya you can get 5 minutes away from a city like fukuoka in japan
>>2825066>that 50,000 garbage shackAnon can actually probably live there because he is an amerimutt.>that akiya you keep dreaming aboutAnon probably can't live there because he doesn't have residency in Japan, at most it can be used for holidays, but yeah nah anon probably can't even buy that house because of the paperwork involved.
>>2825066>>2825090with what anon said, Japan is like this to begin with is because they put up such a barrier. if there were no barrier, Chinese would own literally everything already
>>2824977>>2825042A house like this would be $5k in Japan, if that.Even a nice house 30 mins from Tokyo center is like $250k
>>2825264>A house like this would be $5k in Japan, if that.Forgetting that you need residency firstForgetting you need to fix all that up, a 5k house in Japan will need a LOT of workForgetting that tax in Japan is 5-20x for it (people going to be like WTF +40% income tax!??!)Forgetting the Japanese local gov has to approve you to move inForgetting those "cheap houses" are going to require a car, insurance on it, possible tolls, expensive gas+parking, just to get to work dailyYeah "only 5k" feel free to go show me one. That house in question is just one of many 50k houses you could move into in the midwest of the USA and with a car, low taxes, etc.>>2825066The point being is that the is a far higher level of effort to get to that point than anything like that. People don't realize the sticker price of a home isn't all you should be thinking about.
>>2824976Rural Japan isn't full of angry brainwashed heavily armed retards looking for an excuse to murder their neighbor though
>>2825344What are you doing to get people so angry at you they would want to gun you down? Jogging in work boots?
>>2824098they're literally giving away land for free: https://zero.estate whats the catch?
>>2825344He was suggesting moving to rural white America where the murder rate is low, not urban black America.
>>2825395Get one and tell us
>>2825395>whats the catch?They are listed at 0 not promised at 0No work or jobs within a reasonable distance and no you're not working at lawsons as a GajinProperty tax is not estimated so your house could be valued at 200k or 20k It could be uninsurable Foundation/roofing/supports could be shot or needs some kind of heavy repairs such as mold in the wallsLocation to actual workIt may only be open to those with correct permits (think auction houses, certified banking associates, project developers)Could be in a known flood zone or natural disaster placeThese things to get up to code need new fireproofing standards which Japan only implemented like a few decades ago and it costs as much as a houseThere could (and this is most likely the case) a lien on the house due to foreclosure, unpaid taxes, owner missing, etc. The house is "technically free" AFTER you pay the bank lien or state lien(usually being taxes and interest). All these things must be paid upfront in cash to clear any bad debt. These exist in the USA, if you've ever heard of the "buy it for a dollar" plan some cities run it's basically that. USUALLY, these are because bankers or investment agencies can't move the house because something about it is not worth the repairs.It's like how you can go to iaai.com and get a sports car for <5k with under 100k miles easily that starts and runs and will get you around, though the second a mechanic looks at it he'll tell you the frame is rusted, headgasket showing signs of cracking, and you won't pass any inspection; but hey you got a sports car! Sure it just costs you 40k in repairs but ya know it's a deal**! Hope you like cleaning and being your own handyman.
the key to investing in jap property is to just spend a little over 100k to buy commercial space in Tokyo or Osaka. that way you get constant income from whatever company you lease to. people will pay lots of yennies even for small space in an old run-down building, you can sub-divide everything too and get really shitty slumlord-style with it because there's an endless supply of people wanting to open offices so they have legal presence in a city with favorable tax/legal policies(say for example, sendai company realizes they're getting tax-raped, relocates "head office" to tokyo and gets put in a lower bracket, keeps actual operations in sendai and just sends some secretary-type down to Tokyo to sit in front of a phone all day). the buy an akiya or old house is a psyop because japs never buy old property and demolition costs money so real estate agents that work with foreigners figured out they could massively upsell these properties and market them abroad as DUDE FREE LMAO. they are hoping you take the bait and spend 10k on property that gives you no advantage and only exists as a liability to you. then when you want to exit you realize you can't sell, can't renovate, and need to demo and sell the land anyway. they are offloading demo work cost to YOU and you're taking the bait.
>>2825383Having a surname that isn't "Smith", "Jones", or "Miller", wearing glasses, and having a college education
>>2825656Sunil please go back to India
The government is working on plans to prevent foreign parasites from buying/reselling/running AirBNBs. “Investing” in housing now is like investing in used sofas. Property here has never been considered an investment and there’s a post-Covid bubble with chinks and fags buying up land because they think it’ll pay off, but that’s coming to an end soon.
>>2825915Imagine if America did this
>>2825915airbnb is already regulated here. if you believe any of this you've been psyopped. the chinese airbnb issue is caused by osaka deregulating airbnbs because some retard decided they didn't have enough hotels for the expo(and probably has a bunch of commie slumlord friends) - they're still regulated to the point of being non-profitable outside like two areas in osaka.
>>2825915I've heard stories about how hard it is to even get a decent apartment over there because some Chink will show up at the last minute with a briefcase full of money to outbid you.
>>2825974And those chinks are sharing advice to do so on this very board. Sad to see, really.
>>2824745>>2825626Can an anon with a real, pleasant property that they actually live in (or rent to tenants) explain their process?
>>2827453I've leased to people back home, what's your question. "How do I become a landlord?" that's way too much for a conversation on 4chan.if you assume it's buy house->lease out for X dollars->make bank. LOL. Some places you can do that, the US is often pretty lax in midwest states, but many others for long term actual lease signed and agreed is hellish.
>>2827455I wasn't asking for something as general as that, and I know it's not a simple process. Was just looking to hear a little bit from a JP anon who had gone through the property process. I'll probably never be in a position to buy.
>>2827466what do you even mean explain the process? process of what? buying the property? renting it? renovation and compliance with local laws? just gonna assume you mean purchase, it goes something like: >find a real-estate agent, establish some kind of connection with him>search entire market for properties using aggregator sites>use your gaijin-friendly agent to approach the owners with an offer>agree on terms of purchase and create purchase agreement>sign purchase agreement >transfer money, agent handles paperwork transferring property to youwe basically need to buy in cash or with foreign-sourced loan since jap banks only lend to permanent residents. >>2825974bidding wars are only really something that happens w/ commercial real estate or in shinkiba/odaiba(which is where these chinky bidding wars for condos all the japs are freaking out about are happening since they built a bunch of trashy "luxury" housing on landfill and nobody with any sense wants them)
>>2824187Pro tip: everyone but you knows what they are
>Weebs not understanding what loneliness in a foreign country feels like, let alone in japanAnon, you'll be either buying a piece of shit whose walls are made of paper with cicadas buzzing louder than human voices, termites that have been munching on anything thats made of wood (i.e everything), or you'll get a relatively livable house but you'll get tangled up in an inheritance fuckfest so hard you'll wish you could hunt down everyone involved and their families for good measure. But the absolute worst thing is the loneliness. No one understands what you say, let alole understand you as a person. No friends, no contacts beside whoever you meet on the internet. Only old folks who are just waiting to die in squalor. This isnt the japan you want to experience.
>>2825344>brainwashed>thinks Kamala or Bernie Sanders would have been great presidents I bet you unironically think Antifa are the good guys too.
>>2825344You sound like you took the clot shot at least 2 times with 8 boosters.
>>2825383>>2825400He needs to stay in his globohomo, tranny/nig worshipping containment zone called a city. Rural America is full and doesn't need any more of these retards.
>>2828603/trv/ might be the board with the strongest urban/rural divide
>>2828600>>2828601>>2828603Please seek help>>>/pol/
>>2827466I did most the research to move to Japan.The short of it is unless you're won the visa lottery there, or the way I was going for it. Was US military IT contracts with a game plan after ~10 years moving to some other kind of job maybe working for Dell/HP/Cisco as an English speaking tech with some Japanese.Kanagawa has some nuisances for Americans and foreigners, but housing prices are more or less fucked there due to the foreigner "tax" real estate agents can get away with. Honestly unless you shack up with a native or have Pewd's level of cash to throw around, it's not going to be worth it.Practically speaking, take everything you know about buying a home in your home country then Japanese it. Either completely throw loans out of the window or have a huge interest rate that would make Caleb Hammer die. Then take an HOA and implement it on yourself because most places will have something very similar to an HOA despite it not technically having any real authority, they can make your life a living hell though.>b-b-but my investor's visa!This requires a HUGE business project detail you can't go in with the 300k(I think) and say yeah going to just open up a burger joint and sell american food lol. It's something I know a few friends tried to do with their crypto winnings, only to find out they need a local bank, friendly realtor, everything included with owning a home basically, and then can submit their proposal.
>>2824191It's not about won't or don't speak. It's about you literally can't live there as someone not making money. You can't go there and buy a house and live there. You need a reason. A spouse, a student visa, work visa, a lot of money to start a business and employ 2 Japanese people. something. And none of us here want that.
>>2825264Post both of them, just basic examples that are ready to move in with little to no maintenance. For laughs I took a look and I can't find whatever the hell you're on about. I always hear weebs say this stupid shit but when asked where these magical things exist in Japan are, it's all silence. Looking on ReMax, picrel was the closest I could find which is 1hr to Shinjuku station to get on the tokyo/yamanote loop.This is before closing costs and agent fees, inspections, someone to file all the additional appropriate paperwork you have 0 clue about, taxes, and assuming you have all that cash upfront as you aren't getting a mortgage as a foreigner. Not going to get into taxes since that' comes down to a lot of assessments and so on, and seems like it can flux between 2-5% depending on a few factors.One funny thing about Japan is they can be pretty anal about how you take care of your home, think HOA levels, meaning if you solely go on the visa-free system you're going to be paying someone 6/mo out of the year to come around and touch up the place.Again, please go ahead and post your housing because ReMax is one of the few agencies that will take up the task of dealing with a gaijin.
>>2829100That's a house in the middle of nowhere. Its true value, at its completely new state, is half of that. You'd be lucky to get 15% of that back a few years down the road.
>>2829124>in tokyo prefecture>middle of nowhereAnon I....
>>2824484funny how these retards dont reply to you. yes you can own a home but no you cannot live in it forever. everything you said is correct.. its very difficult to buy a home in japan. most of the time they want you to renovate the place according to earthquake codes in a certain time frame. its more for renting out, but then again nobody lives in these towns anyway.
>>2828603>Rural America is full and doesn't need any more of these retards.And rural Japan, where these houses primarily are, need fat gaijins coming in?
>>2830664Yes.>>2828629Probably up there with /out/, though is a lot of homeless schizos there too.>>2824655Familymart has amazing food. It's on a whole other level.>>2824745How much for the rocks?
>>2832362>icanfixher.jpg>1996>listed for +1 yearI would bet a good chunk of change the foundation got cracked or is slipping because "muh hecking house on a hill!"
>>2832387>listed for +1 yearJapan has 9 million empty homes anon, you seem to think it's like whatever shithole you're from
>>2832445Not my argument in the slightest. I understand that it's clear you've not done home shopping ever in your life but at least take some basic YT level things to consider before home ownership. A house that has not been properly maintained in HVAC, vines crawling into the side and roof, mold inspection (big for japan), and so on is going to need a lot of work. House issues snowball, especially multi story ones which are compounded when on a hillside like that. I simply don't understand why this board goes WOW HECKING CHEAP HOUSE BUT JAPAN!!! without realizing Japanese environment is detrimental to housing due to basic weather events and geology.
>>2832455Meanwhile in my country>50% more expensive>4 hours inland drive from Perth, the most isolated city on Earth>photos show it was clearly inhabited by junkie tenants>insane town with huge amounts of crime>literally known for the worst murders ever committed in the state>under offer after 3 weeks on the marketI know perfectly well how to renovate a house and have done it to absolute shitholes. The main issue with japan is not having something like Bunnings(Home depot).The western world is fucked, if you are going to do up a holiday house, Japan or southern Europe is ripe.
>>2832503>sells out to chang and company>WHY IS EVERYTHING WRONG WITH CHANGS COUNTRY AFFECT MY COUNTRY!
>>2824098if there was an asian union and i could have an akiya house, then freely travel to thailand for weekend hookers I think it would be worth doing.
>>2834689funny I'm trying to decide between Japan and Thailand now. Japan has better long term prospects as far as living long term maybe starting a family and obviously buying a home. Thailand really makes it much harder to live there. >>2824098I love how most of the people in this thread turn into westoid boomers when asked about buying a house in another country. If you want to live in japan buying an akiya is not a fucking investment it'd a fucking house to LIVE in, fuck sake.
>>2834828>. If you want to live in japan buying an akiya is not a fucking investment it'd a fucking house to LIVE in, fuck sake.Spoken like a true retard.A house is an investment, one you live in. If nothing else it's an investment into yourself and lifestyle. All of these houses are going to need a fair bit of repairs and fixes, be it up to code standards, fixing leaks from years of no one living in them, unmolding shit, getting rid of critters that nested etc. All that takes time, money and energy to accomplish which guess what? It's an investment into. If you're not willing to pour a lot into it, most of which you won't get back, you're wasting your time.Zoomer brains out here thinking investment only means stock options and $$$ flipping lmao.
>>2834833An investment, generally speaking, means something that potentially nets you something in return. An old house in the middle of nowhere in Japan isn't an investment in this sense. It doesn't matter how much time and effort you put into one because no one wants to live there. Each second that passes, your property loses value. There's a reason why these perfectly fine to live in houses are being given away for free or being sold for peanuts. Operationally they're a huge loss. Taxes, maintenance, fees, regular inspections, and the eventual gigantic cost to reform/renovate it.Does your property have a septic tank? There's an annual inspection, if it fails you're looking at a 20 grand cost of fixing it up.Will you be living in it? Sure, but even then that's still a very bad investment, specially for foreigners dreaming of an isekai 360 moonwalk away from their miserable lives.The silver lining in this thread is that none of these larpers have the drive to go through the shit this requires and those that do will eventually realize that buying a house won't buy them residency.t. probably the only guy in this thread who actually owns a house in the middle of nowhere in Japan
>>2825344>>2825656Twitter rage bait is not fucking reality dude. Have you never actually talked to another human? Rural America is extremely comfy and people take care of you, even if you were a foreigner they'd treat you well and actually try to talk to you. White people are actually pretty nice 9/10 times. The more evil libtards think they are, the kinder they are in reality.
>>2835065Thanks anon, I think the other guy doesn't understand I as arguing against all the people who are saying it's a waste of money to buy a house in japan. It has no resale value but the value is living there because you want to live in it. Not trying to get pedantic about the word investment.>>2834833read the thread people are talking about monetary returns, which is irreverent if you are going to live in japan learn Japanese and many marry a Japanese person then why the fuck would you worry about making money on your house that no one is going to buy?
>>2824098https://youtu.be/O2AsDSalGZc?si=g-4I7O08crc-ARRG
>>2824976Its not about soul are you retarded? Its about entertainment and the beach
>>2835065>>2835076NGL most the thread seems to be focused on using he house to move into and live in Japan. The few posts I see about "leasing it out" only came up after retards learned they can't just buy a house and get citizenship or leave it empty for half the year.
>>2835186Anon 99% of these cheap houses are in the middle of nowhere. You're not getting the beach or entertainment (outside a pachinko).
>>2824098https://youtube.com/shorts/2twCJZjDQA8?si=U_CgRs7B5Edx_lDc
>>2835188Its not a huge country
>>2835193Until you realize a lot of these houses are far from a train station meaning you need to take a long bus (inb4 I will buy a kei car) okay buddy.
>>2835188depends what you consider cheap under 100k can be found in every city
>>2835204See >>2829100
>>2829100Link? Also why would I want to go to a place where they use slurs like gajin and my people are a minority?
>>2835194I spent 80% of my life in country areas where the nearest Walmart was an hour away
>>2835194This one is near water and train station. But it says land rights are not always guaranteed.
>>2827475>landfill : |>landfill japan :D
>>2828560As someone who very recently emigrated to Japan due to crippling levels of alienation from his own home country, I am probably one of the very few exceptions to the rule. Loneliness is something to look out for, yes. But it also completely loses its power if you've already suffered it the majority of your life. I was in a strange, alien land, surrounded by a people I couldn't understand, and who couldn't understand me. And then I emigrated to Japan.
>>2832362>Probably up there with /out/Pandemic remote work/lockdowns brought an insufferable quantity of REI urbanites to that board. Has the situation improved at all?
>>2824098Because they're fucking stupid for 99% of Japanese and 99.9% of foreigners.
>>2824976This. Rural America sucks, but it's the beneficiary of so much more welfare than rural parts of the rest of the world, which are just for poor pensioners to fuck off and die.
>>2835263Elon's Tesla Tiny House is only 6 grand (IIRC) and would be a much better investment, honestly. Only problems would be:>getting it up to Japan's earthquake safety standards>Obviously wouldn't be able to use it anywhere near a city, so the same kind of problem with Akiya homes I'm guessing the former problem could be ironed out with Elon's intervention though.
there's a guy on tumblr who posts about minka including his own, and occasionally akiya, but it all looks insanely annoying to repair and maintain
>>2824484>>2830635None of this is true, and these shills cannot substantiate any of it. You do not need a visa of any kind if you are american.
>>2839876>You do not need a visa of any kind if you are american.You don't need a local visa but it is the only way you're really going to get a real estate agent talking to you about getting one of the dilapidated shacks. To buy these you're generally going to need to prove you know how to do the following at MINIMUM:>not make it a home for bears>not make it a tinder box>show you intend to use it as a residence not a hotel or airbnb due to Japan's rules on airbnb/house sharing>show you know how to pay taxes>show you know how to abide by the local town rules on the home along with prefecture rules (if applicable)>prove you intend to upkeep it/improve it to proper code standards depending on the area>(possibly) show you can properly pay for utilities to/from the houseSure, you can probably walk to a real estate agent in Japan show them you have 6 gorillion bucks via crypto and you intend to live there under a tourist free visa 180 days out of the year but it's going to be way harder than buying a home that is up to code standards. Ever hear the term "no free lunches?" these houses are that. If they were so easy any fat weeb from back in the US could buy these there wouldn't be a market of them flooded, every crypto bro weeb would have dropped a couple grand on them and exhausted the market. Some of the things I listed REQUIRE a Japanese bank account, sure you might be able to find some sleezy fin tech bank willing to give you an accepted one for utilities but good luck on that front.>>2838729They are also tinder boxes ready to go up, especially as these things hold heat as well as a spaghetti strainer can hold water.>>2835987Those aren't to be sold en mass, at least not yet. You'd be better off taking someones RV they just want to get rid of, moving out to some drier parts of Texas; then reenforce the thing with some proper cinder blocks and homesteading it for virtual 0 in tax.
I think it's pretty obvious akiyas are a bad investment and it's also pretty obvious that people interested in them don't care about that.Only autists like the ones you find here have trouble grasping this.
how much would it cost to teardown an akiya and then put something that is easier to maintain on that land instead, like one of these elon musk or amazon tiny houses/container houses? hear me out:>lets say a decent akiya that doesnt need any major fixing costs 100k>but now instead you go hunt for the really shitty akiyas that are basically unfixable and thus very cheap or even free. like 0k - 20k.>pay construction company to tear that shit down. I know it won't be cheap, but surely 60k should do. Even if 100k, it might still be viable.>buy a tiny house/container cuckshed and put it on there. probably like 60k-90k with installation>you now got a nice modern cuckshed that needs no fixing like akiyas eventually will and still got a competitive price tag rivaling akiyasI know there are nuances which may not make this feasible like the cuckshed not being tsunami proof or the entire neighborhood hating you for tearing down a traditional home and putting some container homeon it.BUTjust think about the idea itself for a sec. where's the actual catch? surely people thought about this before. am I underestimating the teardown costs? Is it like 200k-500k even for a shitty small akiya? Even with all the jeets in japan now?
>>2840556the catch is probably what you already mentioned, regulations.
>>2840556>anon understands buying a house costs money.I am not even trying to vouch for amerimuttland but you can find a house for under 100 oer in the big island of hawaii
>>2840549Bingo>>2840556in most of the cities you can not demolish and even some of the countryside ones have this rule it's neighborhood by neighborhood so you'll have to ask the local government. Also Jeets are not buying property it's Chinese and Americans.
>>2824977>>2825042>USA>Go outside>Get shot>Have to pay millions for medical expensesI'm desperate to escape Europe, but I'd sooner move to India than your failed state of a country. No personal offense intended. It's the very definition of 'out of the frying pan and into the fire'.
Hear me out.
>>2840942wtf that's insane
>>2840962The catch is that the interior looks like it was last used as an office block. I think they're benching on someone wanting to convert it into a hotel, rather than some evil headquarters for mongolian basket weaving enthusiasts. Still, there's some really fun Akiyas out there if you're going with the more broader definition of the term to mean all vacant properties instead of just wrecks that have been abandoned for a decade. I've also seen an edo era Ryokan going for 100k, no doubt because the business is currently failing.
>>2840942oh yeah I remember seeing thatpretty cool, but as you said >>2841158 they are pushing for a hotel
Zog bot that lives in Hiroshima. I dont have residency or a visa (SoFA) but I bought a house here for $40k but I plan on moving tom Yokohama Next year and renting the place out. I bought my place becuase I'm tired of dealing with nip/kike landlords. Not becuase of money/investment.The issue is just dealing with the banks. I just go with the postal service bank its so easy.As people said you dont need to be a resident but buying real-estate here doesn't give you residency. You also still have to pay property tax but its cheap. Also Japan real estate baring very few exceptions depreciates. This is an effect of the bubble bursting.Also Japanese banks even if you are a citizen/resident are extremely hesitant to give loans even to natives. Again another effect of the bubble.My only tip is this find a good agent. Never forget Realtors are absolutely bottom tier scum this applies to Japan and the US. Remember its a job for people who cant qualify much else and thrives on scamming people.
>>2841530Oh yeah I did want to mention you can find pretty decent deals that are not Akiyas in decent neighborhoods and locations. The exception might be inner Tokyo but consider that like Manhattan in NYC.Right now the market is very high for condos but cheap for houses. Everyone wants a condo becuase they have convenience so that's the pressure with them.Also dont put off the idea of buying land and building you own house. There's tons of companies that build homes here.I am actually considering building a modern concrete town house in Yokohama. The land even has water rights to a dock!
>>2824977Bizarre shilling this when it's far easier to keep doing visa runs to Japan perpetually than simply turning up once in the US for most people
>>2842368most of us are americans.
>>2828560>No friends, no contacts beside whoever you meet on the internet.That's exactly how my life is now in my home country.
>>2842383what a disgusting thought
>>2825042In rural Australia this would be 200k USD minimum
I cant help but think there could be a business opportunity buying some of these in a place like Onomichi and starting a tourism business targeting English speakers
>>2842600buying a castle like >>2840942 and renting it out for like 2 months at a time to digital nomads would be fucking amazing americans don't even need a visa to stay in japan for 2 months, i bet a lot of people would do this
>>2842597it's 90 mins from Oklahoma city, that far from Adelaide or Perth for $200k USD would be a bargain>>2825961Akiya's usually aren't in the city so from what I understand it could be a different rule? I float around East Asia 80% of the year and having a cozy country house would be nice, being able to rent it out for a few months just to cover costs would be ok with me. I don't want to make money off it, just a holiday home for myself that breaks even.Something like a coliving could probably pay for itself easily, always amazed at how much more westerners will pay for the convenience of that in Asia. It's a different world these days and the remote worker/weeb overlap is high.>>2827455>that's way too much for a conversation on 4chanMaybe on other boards, not here>>2842383x for doubt also pic rel
>>2842609People are jealous of Americans, euros, Canadians etc for lots of reasons and its often expressed as resentment but when you travel especially in Asia the love is universal
>>2835065>none of these larpers have the drive to go through the shit this requires and those that do will eventually realize that buying a house won't buy them residency.For one I don't want residency nor to move to the Japans permanently and have a Taiwan gold card anyway.Secondly your perpetual negativity in this thread while likely fair and informed has inspired me to go sometime in Spring to cruise around checking things out and seeing if I can find amenable agents.You are writing comments for people without means or location independence without realising that larpers wouldn't be keeping this thread alive for so long.There's also another Aussie in this thread and if you are a burger may not realise how insane the price differential is for these things to make our ears prop up.Already have a nice highrise apartment in seamonkeyland, owning some cozy rural Japan place would be fun. It's not for the money, more for a project and place to chill out in.Yes Akiya's seem fraught with danger for the unprepared, language, building issues, taxes/laws, but for someone already dropping $25k a year extra on accommodation to be a dickhead around East Asia and with some construction experience it looks ripe and juicy as fuck
>>2842611>but when you travel especially in Asia the love is universalTry Okinawa for a few weeks.>americans don't even need a visa to stay in japan for 2 months, i bet a lot of people would do thisSomething like that aimed at long term stays is a fantastic idea. Britain, Germany, Ireland, Ireland and a few others can stay up to six months of the year without even needing a visa.
>>2842772I spent a few weeks in Okinawa and they love Americans there, lots of American themed bars and restaurants old dudes come up and want to talk
>>2824098
Redpill me on Gifu>1 acre>$115k>midway between Tokyo and Osaka>cozy countryside mountains and viewshttps://www.allakiyas.com/properties.php?id=d3d3Lm5ha2F0dWdhd2EuY29tfDhmNjU2ZjU3NzU2YjQ0OTUwZDky&adhoc_display_style=list
Should I purchase an Akiya and live there for 6 months out of the year? What's the sweet spot in terms of price? Best locations?>t. remotechad
>>2842867you can only stay in japan for 3 months without a visa, getting a visa isn't difficult but it's something you would need to consider
>>2835073this is why i love the ohio memes and all of the feigned outrage on reddit etcfuck off we're full and living here is sooo awful lmao
>>2832362>whole other level.whole nother level*
>>2835987>Elon's Tesla Tiny House is only 6 grandhow are people still posting about this, this was an AI hoax on facebook like 6 months ago.. lmao
For about €16.000 this grudge house could be yours!!https://www.japan-property.jp/house-property-for-sale-in-hokkaido-S0016117
>>2840942>1991Oh good so it's not haunted by some ancient presence, but it might also lose some of the charm that way being new
>>2842862I spend about 30 days there each year because winter is amazing. You're going to need a car which requires a license and a bunch of other fun stuff, and outside Takayama not much there.>>2842867I have to agree with previous anons. Unless you can secure a proper agent AND prove you know the laws AND know how to upkeep the property, it's pointless. I think people brush over one of the other reasons these things are so cheap, it's because it places the burden of keeping the land in proper condition onto the owner and not the prefecture. Japan has semi strictish laws regarding land and upkeep, it depends but even the handful of people I know who have bought well off base of Japan get dinged about stupid shit. You'd most likely at minimum need to pay someone to cut the grass every other week while gone.>>2842615NTA but no anon has the willpower to do anything more than daydream this lifestyle. I get "australia is le fucked" then go buy something in QLD or central. Shit's cheap as fuck.> for someone already dropping $25k a year extra on accommodation to be a dickhead around East Asia and with some construction experience it looks ripe and juicy as fuckHow the fuck are you dropping 25k for 6 months of stay? I do airbnb when out and about and even then with the shitty airbnb price inflation and fee's, my most expensive place is not more than 800/mo for something relatively close to a main city.Once you go through all the fee's required to fill out the paperwork and provide all the up to code standards, and realize Japan's government has real FUCK YOU THIS IS MINE land powers, you're going to go "fuck could have gotten a shack back home".
>>2842862I'd rather go buy a newly renovated home in Wheeling WV where I can bounce over to PA or OH or Lake Erie. At least I know my property taxes would be pennies.
>>2842615>negativityI prefer calling it a reality check for pic related candidates which this thread reeks off of.>for someone already dropping $25k a yearThe entire thread has been about either having the money to pay to play or discouraging(reality check) those who do not have neither the will/knowledge/money to do it. With all said and done, that's around the price I paid for my house, with my wife essentially acting as my real estate agent. So if you are already spending $25 grand a year and don't mind writing off another one, go for it and find a foreign catering / English speaking agent. You don't even have to be physically in the country to start the process.>>2842862Here's more negativity - if a portion of your property is considered agricultural, you are not allowed to use that portion for anything other than agriculture and you are required to plant and maintain produce on that piece of land for at least 150 days per year. Yes, planting produce is a requirement. Changing it to a different type of classification is difficult/nigh impossible unless you meet very specific requirements.
>>2843628>if a portion of your property is considered agricultural, you are not allowed-I'm gonna stop you right thereYou are not allowed to own it, full stop. Most properties with agricultural land attached can not be sold to foreigners unless they have a bunch of paperwork and experience proving they actually know how to farm. Therefore the 150 days farming requirement is an absolutely irrelevant thing for the majority of foreign buyers and those who would be subject to it know what they are getting into.
>>2843633>can not be sold to foreigners unless they [have money to pay someone to do the dirty work or they have the knowledge and can communicate/read/write in Japanese]Yes, thank you for reiterating my main point. Pay to play or have the know how before venturing into foreign properties.
>>2843640No you dumb fuck you literally can NOT buy farmland without an explicit permit from the local agricultural committee and a related existing job or degree in agriculture.No real-estate agent will bother showing you an akiya with attached farmland unless you ask for it because it's such a fucking headache to get that they don't want to bother with it.You don't understand at all. You can't pay your way out of needing a relevant agricultural job or degree (bar going and getting the fucking degree). Being able to communicate isn't enough. There is a HARD BARRIER to entry based on relevant skills, which is why it is never a relevant issue. The real estate agent won't waste both of your time showing you properties you legally can not purchase, don't be fucking retarded. You were wrong and should suck it up and admit it rather than trying to twist my words to pretend I said shit I didn't so you can talk down to me as if you're right.Fuck off dickhead.
>>2843648Explain to me how my property with a 3x3 plot of agricultural land attached to it is under my name as a foreigner who doesn't have an agricultural related job nor degree.In my case, all I had to do was to join a 1 hour farming class and take a test in the local town office to get a certificate as a farmer which is the only hard requirement to own agricultural land and paid an actual farmer to do help me with the paperwork and to lend the land to him, leaving the paperwork and the actual planting of produce to him. So yes, once again pay to play.Rules and how strictly they are implemented can also vary from place to place and the color of the sky on that specific day, only one thing is certain and that is agricultural land is just another barrier for akiya larpers.Now, if you reserved a single brain cell for being an actual human being instead of being a vagina filled with sand, you would know that the person who I replied to linked a website which just reposts listings from the actual akiyabank, and you would have known that that listing comes with agricultural landhttps://www.nakatugawa.com/akiya/sellhouse/22653.html農地法第3条の申請認可が必要その他:農地(4111.61㎡)も売買物件(1800万円)に含みます
>>2843377>then go buy something in QLD or centralAlready have some shithouse acreage in Darling Downs lol, fuck building anything on it now though, guess I'll wait for robot tradies >centralDo you mean Central Australia and if so are you verifiably insane? I wouldn't wish that on people I hate.>How the fuck are you dropping 25k for 6 months of stay?First world Asia has it's price, even nice residences in Bangkok is a bit exxy these daysSingapore and Taiwan chew up the most. Japan isn't that bad comparatively. Monthly rentals plus overpriced utilities rates adds up quick30 sqm apartment in the nice part of Taipei is $500/w manhttps://taiwanhousing.tw/en/estate/890
>>2843658I guess I should caveat my post> both earning solid freedom dollars>fully remote in a dual tax jurisdiction that charges 0% on foreign sourced income (Malaysia)>no kids>you start doing stupid shit and spending a lot simply because you can>hey lets go here and check this out>rinse and repeat
>>2843654Lying out your ass desu
>>2843664https://www.city.yonezawa.yamagata.jp/soshiki/15/1040/3/492.htmlhttps://www.city.hirakata.osaka.jp/cmsfiles/contents/0000004/4106/(R5)hituyou3kyoka.pdf>No you dumb fuck you literally can NOT buy farmland without an explicit permit from the local agricultural committee and a related existing job or degree in agriculture.>needing a relevant agricultural job or degree (bar going and getting the fucking degree)Here are two websites, from two different towns, listing the requirements to own agricultural land.There is not one mention of any agricultural related job or degree, only that you must become a certified farmer, which again is very easy to acquire, and the other documents again are not difficult provided you have the know how or know someone who does.I guess you were the dumb fuck dickhead who does not understand anything at all.>You were wrong and should suck it up and admit itMom, chalk another one up to my number of internet arguments won list :^)
>>2843670lying out your ass desu
>>2843674>lying out your ass desuhttps://laws.e-gov.go.jp/law/327AC0000000229#Mp-Ch_2-At_3Here's the actual law. Can you point out where the requirement for an agricultural related job or degree is? Is it also in the room with us, together with your other larping delusions?>>2843648>You were wrong and should suck it up and admit it rather than trying to twist my words to pretend I said shit I didn't so you can talk down to me as if you're right.>You were wrong and should suck it up and admit it:^)
>>2843675lying, out your ass desu!!!
shut the fuck up you retards here take your 'kept taking the bait award' good job
>je...jebaited xD>epic troll for the win>I- I was only pretending to be retarded
>>2843658>>2843661>run down shack in Japan:O>run down shack at home:(What is your post even about at this point? You choose to stay in stupidly expensive places and then go WTF??? I can go on Airbnb and get a good apartment in Taipei for ~800-1000/mo so you're just shooting yourself in the foot here. Seriously not my fault you choose to just be retarded. You're choosing to live in a high cost of living area and then wondering why it's expensive. Maybe move a bit outside of Taipei or go southern taiwan>b-but my quality, muh gold cardAnd you are talking about an Akiya? That's in a complete questionable state of disrepair? Mostly likely has a mold issue due to the climate of Japan. And tons of various other things?This really is a case of grass is greener dumbshit weebs are fascinated by, you won't do it you'll tell yourself you are going to do it and go buy one. The second you realize there is difficult paperwork to sign, local taxes and codes to adhere to, local neighborhood counsels, and so on you'll just throw your hands up. Again, if these houses were simply throw some closing cost fees at and pay taxes yearly to own, the Chinese would have gobbled up every single available one and tried to make a buck.
>>2824426if you have the money to buy and renovate an akiya you have the money to use an akiya agency which will add on a decent chunk to the overall price but will make your life easier. it is a new grift for conniving (((expats))) in japan who want a business but don't want to work. you can find a good one with research.
>>2843628>I prefer calling it a reality check for pic related candidates which this thread reeks off of.A while back I went through all the legalize shit to move to Japan, what's involved, yadda yadda, then got to housing. Weebs and normies are the most brain-dead retards on the planet when it comes to Japan specifically, hell pretty sure buying a house in Korea is easier. I've basically given up when some weeb people my friends know ask me for advice because I know it's in one ear out the other unless I am telling them: YES JAPAN LAND AWAITS YOU ARE SPECIAL UNLIKE OTHER TOURIST! YOU WILL BE THE ONE! THE ONE THAT FITS IN PERFECTLY AS A FOREIGNER! IT'S JUST LIKE HOME AWAITING YOU!!!!These houses have a list of problems not posted and that may or may not be able to have the estate transferred to you until fixed. Sure, there are some so fucking in the backwoods that there are people just trying to get it off their hands and will give it to you. Great, except that has its own list of problems. I can't understate how strict some of the rules are think: HOA karen levels. Enjoy buying 1 acre of land now having to find someone who will come to cut the grass every 2 weeks because summer, or oh fall is here you need to tidy up your yard, or Hey your house is looking dirty in our neighborhood that's a fine.There would be so many hurdles just to secure utilities alone, to these places on a tourist visa I laugh at people going "nono it ez". Yeah dude go to metawater asking them to turn up utilities at your residence while providing them a foreign bank account and tourist visa. Enjoy that clusterfuck.
>>2843721think about renovation costs for one second also access to public transit even in some of the more subruban areas
>>2843729Yeah because a place like Gifu totally doesn't have issues with public transportation to the local rail... buses stop all the time in winter..Pretty sure you can find some BS in australia that's the same quality of a unoccupied Akiya for who knows how long, additional costs in paperwork to get the estate, possibly pay lein on the property/back taxes, etc.I don't understand why this thread thinks you can just waltz up ask for one speak with a realtor and grab a free house. I'm all for people finding a better life and if moving to Japan a good place to stay, but these houses are free for a reason. You think Japanese wouldn't love to get a free house? lmao. There is often a big reason they won't take these things.
>>2843658.25 second search on realtor gave me a ready to move in 3br house for not that bad. I get the AUS is monopoly money only bested by CAD but still...
This shit reminds me of the California retards who moved to Arizona buying houses in the flood plains or moved to the midwest forgetting the weather exists there takes a toll on the house. However, they bought it all up instantly because some Chang or Pedo n' Co. powerwashed a few parts of the property and slapped a fresh coat of paint on it making it look livable by the photos.By all means go grab an Akiya from the pictures alone without a building inspector to check it out first. Enjoy an infinite money hole that you can't sell to any bank because they will look at the history, get an inspector to see possible 'repairs' by gaijin, and instantly walk away. Enjoy infinite tax debt for a house to can't get rid of outside abandonment.
>>2843730>Yeah because a place like Gifu totally doesn't have issues with public transportation to the local rail... buses stop all the time in winter..The city has a train that can take you to three major cities that's not comparable to anything in the USA that would be in a city that safe and peaceful >. You think Japanese wouldn't love to get a free house? lmao. There is often a big reason they won't take these things.it's not free, for the average worker making 30k a year they are not really thinking 30k houses as free, and Japanese people raised in Japan do not like old houses they would rather buy new even for twice the price.There are also a lot of cultural reasons not to buy them. If people died in the house or it's in a city other than Osaka ad Tokyo no one is buying a house without a job lined up and so much of the economy is in Tokyo, Tokyo Suburbs and Osaka.Japanese are not self starters in random cities, They like to start their own businesses in their own city they grew up in or work for a large corp. Japanese also don't want to pay back taxes on properties which are often the reason houses get abandoned after their are inherited, other times the family just isn't interested in moving from Tokyo so they just let the house sit. They do not look for a city they know nothing about to mover to. While there are lots of hurdles to getting one of these houses it's no where near as bad as you people make it out to be.
>>2843739>This shit reminds me of the California retards who moved to Arizona buying houses in the flood plains or moved to the midwest forgetting the weather exists there takes a toll on the house. However, they bought it all up instantly because some Chang or Pedo n' Co. powerwashed a few parts of the property and slapped a fresh coat of paint on it making it look livable by the photos.Except those people are trying to sell those houses in the future, there is no real market for these homes after you clean it up its for you to live in, the rental return is low so it's useless as n investment property and will be worth 0 yen in 20 years. The point is to live in them, any other analysis is missing the point entirely.It doesn't need to be worth anything the worth is living in it and if you want to move in 20 years you demolish it or whatever it's not like it matter it's the same as renting with zero inflation which is better than renting normally plus you can do whatever you want to the property.
>>2843755>gifu>cityYeah most people refer to the prefecture, would have been better stating northern Nagoya.>t's not free, for the average worker making 30k a year they are not really thinking 30k houses as free, and Japanese people raised in Japan do not like old houses they would rather buy new even for twice the price.G-GOMEN KENSAMA I KNEEL I-I had no idea I was speaking to a pure blooded born and raised Japanese who was mistakenly raised abroad by a tragic mixup at the hospital after birth...This is some delusional shit right here, it's why anons are right that no matter what screeching of how you will totally buy it just you wait and see lines we get you won't. At most you'll look it up when bored jot a few things down, realize that in order to get basic utilities turned on, it will be a chore and give up.>While there are lots of hurdles to getting one of these houses it's no where near as bad as you people make it out to be.Some of the things people have stated ITT are overblown but on a basic level this stuff breaks it down the surface level pitfalls: https://www.maigomika.com/akiya-top-questions/#my-take-on-buying-property-in-japan-the-tourist-vs-resident-divideAgain the biggest hurdles going to face are, these are only LISTED at 0, unresolved taxes, liens, legal fees, utility turn ups, and most importantly making it actually safe to live in. Black mold is a real severe health issue, many of these places that haven't been climate controlled or regularly cleaned are going to be a breeding ground for that shit. If you're going to sit here and brush off black mold infestations, lmao lol this is pointless you have no business talking about housing.
Didn't see this thread, I'll repost from the general.https://www.japan-property.jp/apartment-property-for-sale-in-hiroshima-S0018877https://www.japan-property.jp/apartment-property-for-sale-in-hiroshima-S0019333https://www.japan-property.jp/apartment-property-for-sale-in-hiroshima-S0018876https://www.japan-property.jp/apartment-property-for-sale-in-hiroshima-S0019331Are you telling me a 96m^2 flat just south of Hiroshima just facing Miyajima with sea view is just 230K€ (without the state sales tax)? Or basically the same price with a nice river view in Hiroshima center proper? Or down to 145K for the cheap 67sqm one. Or even "just" 415K for the luxurious one with kino bay view in a recent 2020 building?And those are basically more than double square meters I actually need (but you never have too much). Here I'd have to pay double the price for the same surface, let alone the view, in a similar sized city/area (tinier uninteresting cities actually).What's the catch, even the monthly provision fees for repairs and other monthly fees are not that high, and comparable to what I'd have to pay here. Do I have to pay some local yakuza-man tax? It's too bad you I can't get residency just by buying (though I understand why they do this), otherwise, I'd just move and live off half from my divies and half from remote work. 6 straight months from Visa would be sufficient as far as I'm concerned, but alas I would have to do 2x3 months, and it's cumbersome.
>>2843796>(without the state sales tax)You have a commission to the realtor, closing costs, registration of home ownership, and purchase/acquisition title tax. It's simply called something different in Japan>What's the catch, even the monthly provision fees for repairs and other monthly fees are not that high, and comparable to what I'd have to pay here. Do I have to pay some local yakuza-man tax?Look at the post above and read the thread, as someone who did all the bullshit to move to Japan a while back and then started digging into the real estate shit you're still taxed. City and Prefecture taxes still come your way, you have to get approval from the local government/neighborhood to buy it, you have to prove you can maintain the thing, you have to prove you understand the laws surrounding it(not going to be an airbnb 99% of the time), etc etc. Most Japanese neighborhoods have something similar to a Home Owners Association (HOA) meaning they can make up any bullshit rules they want and outs you if you're a burden to then, the government might not be able to kick you out exactly but they will make your life absolutely hell on anything they can.The biggest hurdle you'll have is proving all the things listed above and getting approval to purchase. If you're gone 6 months out of the year you'll most likely need to hire a maid service or something to come by every other week or so to make sure things are clean and no issues appear that could be a health or safety hazard.
>>2843733> *No permanent living allowed*kek, read the fine print anonYou people have no idea how insane Australia is and how cucked housing is even in the middle of nowhereThere's huge blocks of flat open land that councils will let you buy but never build anything on with no reasons given.
>>2835242Being a minority in the developed world is the fucking great though, anyone who says otherwise is trying to guilt grift your white ass.>>2835187>or leave it empty for half the yearPuzzle me this, the houses are already empty and uncared for, why would the local government now suddenly care it's only half occupied instead? I know nips are autistic, but they're also pragmatic, it's a fucking big country and rules vary from place to place. Read some of the stories online, people usually say it's about double the cost in the end with everything else and cleanup>>2835188>literally ignoring the akiya by the ocean posted in this thread>>2843721>taxes/etc...and so on you'll just throw your hands upWhy wouldn't I just pay someone to do it for me like everyone else does? You act like this is some impossible hurdle to overcome when there's shitloads of foreigners owning property in Japan. I see the threads on nippon expat pages and yeah people say the rules are fucked but plenty have done it even without local help.I've been on this godforsaken website for long enough to see through the constant demoralisation posts and negative type people it attracts. You seem to have all the answers about why it can't be done, while those who have done it seem to shrug it off as being a bit of a hassle but nothing insurmountable.>I can go on Airbnb and get a good apartment in Taipei for ~800-1000/moThere's nothing decent for that price in Taipei unless you want to live in a cupboard.If you are willing to travel from New Taipei everyday maybe getting close to "good" but more likely a place with little sunlight and tiny as fuck. I need my space and green areas. Pic related.Daan is fuckin sweet so it's hard to go elsewhere. Tamsui I'd stay but the commute in is too much daily, maybe Shilin or Xindian is more manageable I guess
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>>2843828Holy shit you're retarded>Puzzle me this, the houses are already empty and uncared for, why would the local government now suddenly care it's only half occupied instead?Because there are classifications of land and housing, every country calls it something different but it boils down to occupied and unoccupied status. Most Akiya's are due to foreclosure, land left without occupants whereabouts, abandoned states, liens disputes that assume owner is dead, etc etc. The government isn't going to sue or fine itself or anyone because it's a waste of time. Once a home becomes an occupied residence it's then subject to local laws and rules.I can't believe I have to even fucking type that, you clearly have never looked at home ownership or flipping assets. No one is doom posting or whatever you want to call it, people are talking what happens in the real world. If that doesn't fit your mindset you got a lot to learn about responsibly owning land/assets.I also just want to comment on your pic, you can easily find places in Taiwan for <1000/mo all utils included, funny it came up in the thread since I am going next year. Pulling something like picrel is easy as shit takes maybe 2-3 minutes of looking on airbnb, you're choosing to bump up your status and living then going off on the pricing. If you want to stay in a luxury apartment great cool awesome, but you can easily find decent places for less than 500 USD/wk
>>2843876Yeah man, I'm not denying those places exist, just that I have no urge to live like a roach with no window, no kitchen, 10 other people sharing a fridge, a 17inch fucking tv screen longueroom/bedroomDo you not understand I'm willing to spend fair amounts of money to live a normal white person existence, the initial post that kicked off this shitfight?So many retards on this site seem either completely naive or actually retarded about how other nationalities live. You literally posted a fucking prison in Sanchong mate and think thats some sort of comeback. I've actually been in prison and that had more natural sunlight than that place you utter dumbcunt lmao. The thing you don't realise about these rentals is that they're actually all connected on the same floor to 5 or so others exactly the same, it's not a separate place. Taiwan is a bit weird like that, communal living and shared kitchen are very normalised.How about you find an actual monthly rental, separated from other people, with it's own kitchen for a decent price inside Taipei city? No one in their right mind is using airbnb for monthly in Taipei except dumbfuck redditors and sub 80-IQ idiots. Anyone with a clue is laughing at you right now. I'd be embarrassed taking a cheap whore there, let alone living there. You should be too.
>>2843880>no windowThere is literally one in the picture>10 other people sharing a fridgethere is literally a fridge right in the picture>Do you not understand I'm willing to spend fair amounts of money to live a normal white person existence, the initial post that kicked off this shitfight?Then don't complain or act like 500/wk is the norm.>Taiwan is a bit weird like that, communal living and shared kitchen are very normalised.I've been in Taiwan, I understand that and it's not a big issue since I'm not a sperg who can tolerate being around other people. It's Taiwan anyways most the time I'm going to be eating out anyways. It's stupid cheap unless you only go to KFC and CoCo's.>I'd be embarrassed taking a cheap whore there, let alone living there. You should be too.Why not just go to a love hotel or other hotel, you're saving 75% a month so you'd still come out ahead. When you get to know some locals go back to their place, it's not uncommon to go to the girls place dude.I get you're being an autist and that's fine but at least don't go complaining you NEED to spend 500/wk for an apartment in Taipei. Picrel is still 500/mo under what you spend lmao.
>>2843880Here have another one, I think you just legit suck at this anon. Seriously, if you're banging a cheap whore they won't care anyways. You're acting like a gay dude complaining about the decor of the room when it's not that big a thing if she's already following you home.
>>2843828>I've been on this godforsaken website for long enough to see through the constant demoralisation posts and negative type people it attracts.It's not demoralization anon, it's about being grounded in reality. >You seem to have all the answers about why it can't be done,Everything I've seen in this thread has been people posting the hurdles involved to get to a place where acquiring and akiya home is a viable option. Not that it can't be done, but rather that most anons once faced with the challenges will give up. That's a real fact of life there, anon. How many do you know who were "totally going to move to Japan and start my life right!" only to do it in just 1 more year!!!! I know a ton of friends from HS/College who were totally going to do it, coworkers who laid off around COVID going to make it big, never doing so, hell discord friends too. This isn't some demoralization posting, this is just that most people when realizing it's not as simple as booking a rental or airbnb, they give up. It's not far-fetched by any means to address the elephant in the room and realize most people won't do it and the daydream is better than the reality.It's basically understood these houses need some form of renovations done to be livable in, even for 6 months out of the year. Most anons on this board can barely keep up social connections for 6 months, you really expect some of the people here to manage a property in a nation they aren't a citizen in?I look forward to being proven wrong as you go buy an Akiya in the next few months to bring your yearly expenses down. End of the year is often a good time to do real estate purchases since realtors want to pump those numbers. Good luck.
>those pricesthose are rent controlled apartments owned by a local, being illegally-subleased out as airbnb>>2843876this is especially egregious, whoever owns this place pays $100 a month for it>>2843884>1400 a month studio shoeboxscam>>2843885>1000 a month literal shoeboxalso a scamairbnb is a scam in many places, but the scam seems to be quite huge in taiwan you need to go through local property manager or building manager, you will pay a premium for renting monthly with cash, but it will not be this 3x scam rate on airbnb
also I just realized you are using singapore dollars which doesnt have its own symbol (very dumb), but the prices are still dogshitavoid airbnb at all costs
>>2843912>>2843914>anon realizes he's being hadlol, news flash but you know it's not uncommon for the apartment complexes themselves to set some rooms aside specifically for vbro/airbnb/mont-to-month/etc style housing right? You're paying 100% markup on living just to play this weird mind game thinking a cheap hooker will care what your place looks like. Protip: they won't so long as it's not a hostel or internet cafe
>>2843912I'm quite sure it's illegal everywhere in Taipei city? That's why I posted a legit website for rentals first rather than airbnb stuff
>>2843916I want a nice apartment because I feel better and happier and more at peace in a nice spacey apartment with comfortable furniture and bed.The worst thing is when your room feels like a jail cell, and a lot of these barebones studios feel just like that, especially if the 'window' just looks out at another building and you have no vista. Impressing a woman isn't the game, but having a relaxing subtly luxurious environment is much better for sexual encounters than a sterile chamber.
>>2824189I started a thread about japan travel on /up/ once and the first reply was "this is not the japan culture board". All they ever talk about there is touhou and JAV.
>>2844305/trv/ is comfy. Niche topics like this are welcome, imo. Keep up the good work.
Is it viable to buy a house in Korea? I’d like a traditional house in the countryside.
>>2844385Why would you ever want to live in that shithole compared to japan...
>>2844387>place>place, japan
>>2824484>full retardAnyone can buy a house in Japan. The only real issues are>Ability to pay. This means you may need to source a shit load of physical yen. >Finding a seller that wants to put up with your shitThat's it. Nothing else really required. If you want to live there year round that's another matter entirely.
>>2839927>destroys his own faggot argumentDamn take the L and kill yourself bro. Something being harder doesn't mean it's impossible.Retard.
You're all retarded and naive. I laugh at non-Asian people who think its so easy to just pack up their bags and go live in Japan/Taiwan.t. English, Japanese, and Chinese speaker who stayed in the US, Japan, China, and Taiwan this year.
>>2845060It's easy as fuck to pack up your bags and live in Asiat. Only speak English and have spent over a decade in AsiaDone a over a year total in Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, ThailandIf you retards are trapped in your shitty worlds and can't unlock location independence then that's on you
>>2845151>over a decade in Asia>only speaks EnglishYou're the reason visas should require language proficiency tests.
>>2845153Seethe harderMy hard currency is accepted everywhere with a smile :)
