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>Last Thread: >>2850726

I would have enjoyed the last thread a lot more if I had gotten my cup of coffee edition

>What is this thread? Why are there two generals?
/rcg/ was initially created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other theme parks, their rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /tpg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney/Universal discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Current and historical wait times tracker:
>https://www.thrill-data.com/

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net
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With the whole Greenland question causing Europe to entirely decouple with the USA, it is looking more likely Disneyland Paris will be forced to shut down entirely and we will not even get the Frozen and Lion King expansions
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>>2856051
>Europe removing themselves from the USA gravytrain

I highly doubt it. It's just posturing from their inept bureaucrats that want to appear tough despite allowing their homelands to be flooded with african and muslim rapists.

We will take Greenland and put a Six Flags on it.
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>>2856051
That's not going to happen. Whilst they may move away from US businesses and drop government contracts, a complete cut off would be an instant recession.
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>>2856062
ow the edge
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>>2856050
Yeah, when I was there in November I hoped I would warm up to Mickey Avenue but I really don't like that it is covered. Understandable given the climate but it sucks out a lot of the cozy atmosphere (same thing in USJ, although for some reason there it bothered me a lot less). To be fair I'm used to Paris' Main Street USA which is the best one, so it was gonna be stiff competition anyways.
As for the pathways that was my biggest problem with the park. It just makes everything super wide-open and flat and kind of a slog to walk through. It might be necessary for the amount of crowds, but it doesn't change the fact the crowds are still horrible to get through, especially the backside of Fantasyland. The park is at its best in smaller side areas like Critter Country or the area around Beauty and the Beast, there the paths are a bit smaller and more winding, making everything feel more natural. Again, something that Paris excels at.
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>>2856051
If political posturing was enough to shut down a park there wouldn't be two disneylands in china
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Even in the very small chance France does not bar all US involvement in the country, the attendance is going to plummet because Disney is associated with America and they want to avoid all American assets. We saw this with Eurodisney in the 90s before things got better and this was not even when the countries were openly hostile to each other
Honestly Asterix Park or Plopsaland might just take over operations and make it a new resort for them with rethemed rides, because there is zero chance Disneyland Paris will be operating in a decade
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>>2856091
He's saying that purely because he knows the EU wouldn't do it.
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>>2856091
Sorry but this is absolutely delusional on so many levels if you think Disney would ever go through the embarrassment and financial turmoil of removing themselves from DLP.
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>>2856098
Disney themselves might not have the choice to stay, this is far bigger than Disney and amusement parks
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>>2856105
They're planning a second gate for Shanghai of all places. I assure you DLP isn't going anywhere
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>>2856105
I'm sorry but you're a fucking moron. These countries are not going to intentionally nuke a tourist attraction that creates thousands of jobs and generates billions annually in economic impact over some meme shit trump is pushing. Get off reddit and go outside my nigga
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both sides of Stardust Racers just valleyed
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>>2856105
There's about a million different ways I could explain in detail about how retarded you are but it's easier if I just tell you to kill yourself so you will be removed from the gene pool
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How can we stop Disney Adults once and for all, and prevent them from giving us Disney Park Connoisseurs a bad name?
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>>2856140
make the ticket scanners narrower so they can't fit through them
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>>2856135
Gust of wind strikes again?
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Guys I'm about to launch the craziest shit you ever heard
Alright ready, because religion is on the decline (apparently), people are replacing their icons of worship with corporate worship
I am extremely smart and this theory requires no proof
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>>2856142
Florida had a massive storm pass over the state today and for about 10 minutes it was very similar to a hurricane wind band so probably.

Surprised they didn't see the wind coming and put it in an anticipatory delay. Weatherman was telling boaters to not go out today.

>>2856140
Everything there is to be a fan of has that segment of the fanbase that takes it way too far and gives people a bad name. The NFL has Eagles fans that throw beer cans at the heads of children over a game. It's just part of any broadly popular thing. Vacation destinations, and especially Disney, stratify their fans by status and Disney has monetized that stratification. So let them waste all their dumbass money doing dumbass shit and lay on their death beds with nothing to look back on in their life beyond various moments they spent $500 and waited in a 4 hour line for a popcorn bucket themed to a childrens movie.
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Has anyone tried Circuit Breaker at COTAland? I hear good things about new Vekoma tilt coasters and it is a lot closer than cedar point and qiddiya.

>>2856147
It seems that EU still doesn't have their ops locked down yet.

Sort of surprising because Stardust is one of the more straightforward rides there and they have a fairly large experienced talent pool to pull from even internally.
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>>2856142
>>2856147
Guessing it was some kind of electrical fault since it affected both trains, presumably simultaneously
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>>2856153
Wouldnt wind also do that since both trains would be facing the same headwind?
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>>2856156
It could but it's not like they're unfamiliar with quickly building and moving storms there. The ride would probably be shut down before that happened. But still possible. I haven't seen where it valleyed.
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BATB, Pan (the new one), and Frozen now have single rider lines in Tokyo
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>>2856051
QRD?
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>>2856235
How have you not been following the Trump situation?

>Trump wants Greenland to be America on the basis that it's close and that America gave it away in the first place
>Rest of the world is "lol no"
>Trump imposes tariffs/sanctions on countries saying no
>Macron says the EU should propose a complete block on US businesses

Macron is just posturing as he knows the EU will never do that but it makes him look good. On the offchance it does happen, it'll likely only be for government contracts. If it's wider than that, instant worldwide recession on a never before seen scale
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>>2856062
I love this man.
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>>2856139
I still haven't ridden this yet.
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Threadly list of Disney/Universal announcements and dates for your convenience:
Not much new this time.
Florida:
>Monsters Inc. at Studios opens 2027?
> Dinosaur and Restaurantasaurus Final day Feb 1st
>'Tropical Americas' replace it in 2027
>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028
>Liberty Belle Steamship future plans unknown, but intact as of late Nov 2025
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes by 'Spring' 2026 w/ Rainbow Caverns
>New Frozen ride animatronics Feb 2026
>Walt Disney robot coming to Carousel of Progress
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin reopens Spring 2026 WITH MOAR SCREENS
>Rock N' Rollercoaster: Muppets opens summer 2026, multiple animatronic Muppets confirmed
>Aerosmith version final day is March 1
>>>/tg/ Crossover:
>Earn Lorcana Promo cards at Epcot thru Feb 23.
>Volcano Bay closed Oct 26, 2026 thru Mar 24, 2027
>Lost Continent demolition underway
>Replacement for Poseidon's Fury to be built by Intamin
>Jurassic Park River Adventure closed thru Nov 19 2026
>RRR Replacement early 2027?

California:
>Fast and Furious Hollywood coaster 2026
>Mr. Lincoln shows when Walt is uncooperative. True rotation soon?
>Mike & Sully closes 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Soarin' Over 'Murica by July 4 2026
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026
>Moar OT characters in Star Wars Lands

Europe:
>Frozen land and Rapunzel teacups, opens in Paris March 29, 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>New scenes in Rivers of the Far West in 2026
>Universal UK set for 2031

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?
Did I miss anything?
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>>2856262
And for the massive faggot who needs everything else no no one cares about:
https://attractionsmagazine.com/all-new-roller-coasters-opening-2026-theme-parks/
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Is it me or is the Shanghai Spider-man coaster really short? Feels like outside of potential show scenes, this is going to be comparable to Tron's length. Would be funny if all three of the park's coasters are under a minute in actual ride time.
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>>2856262
Moar OT characters are only coming to California for now
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The head of Merlin Magic Making has jumped ship to head up the theming for Universal UK. They've done some good work for a while (Wicker Man, Smiler, Nemesis Reborn, Haunted House retheme) despite Merlin's penny pinching so she should be a good fit.
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>>2856276
Considering Universal will no doubt have higher budgets than Merlin usually has, we could expect some nice things.
So far things have been surprisingly quiet, I seem to remember Epic Universe having way more rumors early on about what the park would be, which ended up being pretty spot-on.
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>>2856278
Epic Universe had a lot more groundwork done before the initial announcement and at least two of the rides were things also considered for Studios. So far nothing has been done on the UK site except for prepping access for heavy vehicles with 28th being the date they've announced some road closures to give access to.

Don't forget that the original concept art for Epic Universe had all the lands disguised except for the ones they didn't think were guessable. HTTYD was initially thought to be a Dreamworks land by rumours/speculation.

Same seems to be happening for Universal UK. Back to the Future seems nailed on as the planning permission makes reference to the spike and it wasn't a 1:1 clone so it's left in there. The Waterworld arena is clearly a placeholder for what's thought to be a Bond show. Paddington like BTTF isn't "guessable".

This leaves the Jurassic World land and Minion land as recognisable areas. Placeholder or left in because they don't care about people spotting the similarities between it and the china park?

Then you've the mystery things. The Shrek location could be an artist having fun or it could be another one left in undisguised. Is the coaster over the water Jurassic World or will it be something else? Lastly there's one place completely unthemed, LOTR? Harry Potter (left even more vague because of the challenges in securing rights)?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-7QdbIftk
the feels...
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>>2856301
Why did I watch that

>REMEMBER THE MAGIC REMEMBER THE MAGIC

That fucking music was everywhere my first time and it's now going to be stuck in my head again, it's been almost 30 years and it still haunts me. I've got a whole bunch of photos from that trip somewhere, found one with my mum by the pool in the All Stars music wearing a very 90s sundress recently.
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>>2856254
It’s fucking amazing. Hangtime is great throughout the entire ride which is compounded by the fact that your entire body becomes weightless since you’re not sitting down and the restraints move up and down and has unlimited rerideability I went on it at the end of howloscream when the park was basically empty and the operators let us ride it 3x in a row straight through the station. Gave us thr kowabunga every time too. It was awesome
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>>2856158
What does valleyed mean? Like the train is stuck on the tracks?
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>>2856262
What about Dollywood? Kennywood? Silver Dollar City? Cedar Point? Fucking SEA WORLD? BUSCH GARDENS? Jesus Christ, anon. Are you a disney adult?
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>>2856236
He’s just joking like he always does, right? Right?
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>>2856312
It's what the name implies, it's stuck in a valley (lowest point between a dip and a hill) because it didn't have enough speed to get around the track
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>>2856315
Damn. That’s what I thought. That sucks. Not just for the riders (I hope they get free passes at the very least, do you think they will?) but also not a good look for the landmark ride at EU
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>>2856140
>he thinks he’s not a disney adult
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Tomorrow
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>>2856317
It happens, most often on extreme coasters as the margins between it stalling and producing way too many gs can be tiny. A particularly light train, on a cold dry track with a big gust of wind can play havoc on it.

Riders get evacc'ed and express passes but it can take a while depending where the train stalled (a big issue if they're in direct florida sun). Train gets winched up the next slope or worst case taken off the track by crane. I always find it a bit weird that stalls/valleying has been an issue since coasters were invented and they haven't come up some sort of battery powered tug that'll get the coaster up the next hill (and to the next block brake). Valleying can close the coaster for the day.

Think there are some coasters now that add a small LIM at risk points that lets them rock a car back and forth until it makes it around though.
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>>2856320
It happened on Rip Ride Rockit so frequently they had a dedicated winch system built in between the first drop and block brake. iirc one of the problems with that ride was it had extremely low wind tolerance and would stall out in 15mph gusts
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>>2856262
Thank you for your service o7
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Anyone know what the current menu differences are between US Nintendo World and JP Nintendo World? Most of the menus online are out of date for this season, and even then, half of them contradict each other.
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According to recent reports, the Thai government is putting together a pitch for The Walt Disney Company regarding a potential Bangkok Disneyland. It falls under the government’s Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC), a plan to strengthen the countries tourism and transport infrastructure. The theme park has been allocated roughly between 153 to 480 hectares of space.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/3171768/govt-looks-at-bringing-a-disneyland-to-thailand
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>>2856332
Interesting, but at a glance this seems like a completely unfeasible project.
Immediately, one must consider the logistics of the increasingly lucrative Asian and Asian tourist market. What would a park in Bangkok achieve for Disney's ten year park plan when you consider how many more people with spendable income are in (or are visiting) Shanghai and Tokyo by comparison?
Secondly, where is the capital going to come from? Is this specified in the pitch? Do we have any idea of the budget?
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>>2856334
It could be their competitor to Universal Singapore, but considering it's not Disney themselves wanting it, I doubt it'll happen. Best case is that it's a Dubai/Tokyo situation where the investors are the ones footing the bill (which is also the case for USS)
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>>2856332
Seems like every developing country wants a theme park now. South America seems inevitable
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>>2856139
>B&M decides not to be uncreative for the first time in 25 years
>no one gives a shit
Doesn’t seem fair.
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>>2856313
see >>2856264
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>>2856340
Dont spoonfeed the resident incel
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>>2856320
Just an express pass? I would expect an annual pass at least. That’s crazy!
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>>2856340
That’s just rollercoasters, retard
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>>2856314
Guys pls
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Who's YOUR /tpg/fu?
Who would you want to spend some time with down at one of the parks?
For me its dfb brea
she sometimes has appeared on some allears vids and has this quirky energy that makes me feel like she love to cuddle and is possibly a freak in the bedroom if you catch my meaning
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>>2856344
Nah. Parks are pretty stingy about that.

Although one time my family got BGT funpasses for the year because the woman doing my sister's hair wrap accidentally removed a chunk of hair from her scalp. I didnt lose any hair at all but they gave me one too.
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>>2856351
This is an advanced level of autism I cannot endorse nor engage withsuperenthused
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>>2856354
are you saying I have 'tism or SuperEnthused does?
I like SuperEnthused's motherly/teacher vibes but she became a fat pig once she started dating Expedition guy
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>>2856313
Its so obvious that guy is a liberal who can't stand the idea of people having fun and being happy.
>>2856351
I like her videos
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Any more news on that enchanted park rumor? I kinda want this to happen since it solves the “too many parks” problem and gets rid of all of the problems except the land lease ones.
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>>2856351
probably Bianca, steal her from pcdev. He's got a record anyway he cant do anything to me
>hello my friends I hope all of you are having an awesome...
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>...fantastic day
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>>2856325
Anyone?
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>>2856364
One has a lot more asians
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>>2856334
Their selling point is they have nothing to cover for Southeast Asia with a population of 600 million, plus it is closer to Australia and New Zealand then the other options. Any planning/funding/etc would be private and not really be known until it succeeds or failed.
Will it happen? Almost definitely not, various parks have been pitched (such as the first Japan pitch, or earlier Middle East pitches) but that does not mean they will take them. I bet you there are some really wonky pitches that have happened before we never heard of
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>>2856262
>Did I miss anything?
Yes, news about parks that aren't Disney & Universal.

>>2856264
Just put it in the main post, that way it's always in one place.
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>>2856370
Why don't you split the general? Disneyfreaks should stay contained.
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>>2856373
One general is fine for all parks
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>>2856352
> I didnt lose any hair at all but they gave me one too.
Lmao, nice!
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>>2856375
Disney ruins everyboard it touches.
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>>2856351
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>>2856364
Just go on the park apps themselves
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>>2856373
>>2856378
There's barely any Disney people that post here and the ones that do are just depressed anons that like dark rides. The disney people you're referring to would see the word nigger be used once and smash their laptop with a hammer. The facebook moms and fat instagram cosplay theater kids do not post here.


>>2856339
Probably because it's tame and a borderline family coaster at a coaster park. If that ride system was used at Dis or Uni or even something very highly themed at Dollywood it would have made a bigger splash.

>>2856359
What rumor?

>>2856357
I was saying that having a waifu that's a niche internet theme park youtuber is pretty autistic but if I had to pick, I'd plow Jackie like I was a chinese rice farmer and the emperor was stopping by later to do an inspection
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>>2856345
That’s the only thing that’s happening at those parks.
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>>2856375
The Disney adults scare away the thoosies. Very little roller coaster discussion in these threads.
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>>2856383
Yeah that’s the entire point. Despite being a pretty simple and short layout it’s fun as fuck. It should have been the prototype that every park suddenly needed one of. Instead no one has ordered one but one park in China.
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>>2856384
He wants a DEI program for Coaster Parks where /tpg/ pretends that a bunch of plastic pumpkins being strung up in a tree at a regional park is equally relevant to Halloween Horror Nights.

/rcg/ must sustain itself and stop mooching off /tpg/s effort. I tried to get this general to talk about Falcon's Flight and pushed a lot of the discussion about the new park but /rcg/ decided to bitch about imaginary disney adults instead of actually discussing rollercoasters. So they can just stay mad for all I care.

>>2856385
You realize this hypothetical fake scenario makes thoosies look like little bitches, right?


>>2856386
The highly themed parks take a while to get things going due to the time it takes to design all the additional shit out. Could be one in development. I'd like to see it used again but without the "Surf" theme.
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>>2856383
>What rumor?
The enchanted parks rumor we talked about in the last thread. The trademark filings for non-core Six Flags properties related to this company called Innovative Attraction Management
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>>2856383
>There's barely any Disney people that post here
Most of the posts itt and the previous rcg+tpg are people talking about Disney merchandise, shrubs being moved at some Disney park, and dumb as hell speculation about hypothetical Disney parks.

The actually interesting Disney content (let alone non-Disney/Universal discussion) is diluted by shitposts about basically nothing and uninteresting Disney minutiae. It sucks.
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>>2856391
sounds like /tv/
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There is only one piece of theme park merch I own and if this makes me a "Disney Adult" I wear that label with pride

>>2856391
Just talk about whatever interests you man. I'd rather see you autistically ramble about SteVe than read another slap fight between two anons dick measuring over who has the most chromosomes.

>>2856392
I was the guy that initiated the move from /tv/ to here after getting banned like 20 times trying to set up /tpg/ there. The discussions there were kino cause we attracted the weirdest freaks on /tv/. High water mark was when we dispatched an anon to check out that one guy's jerk off den but I cant find the pics.
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>>2856395
Is that from the Mummy?
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>>2856346
>>2856314
Yeah it’s just ragebait from the MSM trying to scare people into believing we’re going to war. This is by far their laziest attempt since it’s not even against a country that is plausible
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>>2856269
shid that's dumb
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>>2856361
ew I would definitely not
>>2856379
jackie as helen hunt gets a pass
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>>2856399
Yes, it's the medjey symbol and the exact same one from the queue video. They sell it in the giftshop but you have to ask for it as its behind the counter when they're in stock
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this video is way more interesting than it seems at first, please don’t tell me to buy an ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5WsSJZAuhY
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>>2856420
tldr: the cockpit of the ship on rise uses an angled mirror
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Another ride at Universal Orlando killed a guest yesterday. Not many details other than it was on Revenge of the Mummy and the woman was 70
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>>2856449
It was in November and 99.99999% it was a health related condition and she ignored the posted signs
Really if you are fucking 70 years old you should not be going on a thrill roller coaster.
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>>2856481
>Really if you are fucking 70 years old you should not be going on a thrill roller coaster.
Untrue, retirees and older people ride them all the time without issue. But seemingly healthy teens and adults have died on them because of an undiagnosed or unknown preexisting condition. Aneurysm is a common one. You're really never too old to ride a coaster.
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>>2856481
Older people should be going out there and attacking life, as opposed to sitting at home consoooooming mass media and getting brainboxed by ads.
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>>2856485
cool it with the antisemitic remarks
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>>2856481
Depends on the person. I met a guy at BGT that was in his 80s and spends his retirement traveling around doing coasters all over the world. He said he did 10 rides on Iron Gwazi back to back to back. He was in great shape though and looked 70
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>>2856483
Last time I was at BGT everyone had to wait forever for them to load this old lady, on an oxygen tank, in a wheel chair, who must have been at least 90, onto the train. I was like, whoa! That’s a bold old bird. Everything went fine. Fast forward to later in the afternoon. I’m about to get onto Iron fucking Gwazi, when what do I see coming from the opposite side of the station? It’s the same old lady on oxygen in a wheel chair. They load her into the LAST SEAT ON THE TRAIN. After the ride I immediately stand up, and while all the young people have that typical omg Iron Gwazi face on, this old bird was smiling and laughing ear to fucking ear. I bet she was an absolute hoot when she was younger
>tldr well engineered rides don’t regularly kill people, regardless of their age and medical condition
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>>2856501
The first ride was cheetah hunt
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Gentlemen, start your engines.
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River Adventure boats are being stored at Epic.
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>>2856504
Who do you reckon will get it first? Epic or Busch Gardens?
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>>2856505
You mean the Mack Rocking Boat? BGT for sure as its already in development. This isnt the Mack Rocking Boat though. These are the ride vehicles for Jurassic Park being stored at Epic for the next year while they refurb River Adventure. The new coaster track pieces started showing up today and are also being stored at Epic for the time being. There's a lot of available space at epic to store shit and they bring the pieces they need for the day over at night before installing them.

The silver color scheme is making me think it could theoretically be BTTF.
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>>2856505
Those aren’t Mack rocking boats, but the old Jurassic park boats. I think Busch gardens will get a Mack boat first as Epic prob won’t get one for at least 4-5 more years, if ever. It’s still all speculation about Creature
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>>2856505
BG. It’s going to be the spiritual successor to Rhino Rally, which is one of, if not my fav ride of all time, esp if you’ve ridden it with the whitewater section when the bridge breaks.
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>>2856509
I did Rhino Rally completely blind. It blew my mind.

>>2856509
BG desperately needs family rides. There have been so many innovative small footprint low cost dark rides recently that there isn't really much of excuse to at least put a filler ride in.
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>>2856512
BG desperately needs indoor attractions. If you go between march and august there's a 70% chance 90% of the park will be unavailable to you for several hours during your visit. Something like The Mummy would be big for them.
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>>2856047
I hope the idea of Qiddiya takes off. Building 'entertainment cities' as opposed to walled off parks. Would be great if developers were free to compete within parks, as opposed to some private equity corpo having a monopoly on the space.
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>>2856481
If I ever start to show signs of dementia, I'm booking a flight to Japan and hopping on Eejanaika to escort me out of this world.
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>>2856517
I’m more of a pic rel type of guy, but thanks for sharing that ride, it looks fun. Never been on a 4D coaster. They look like they would cause a lot of nausea
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Name a more underutilized ride vehicle.

Universal of the 90s would have made a 10/10 dark ride with this thing. Parking it in front of dogshit screens when it can drive outdoors is a travesty
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>>2856523
Nothing at modern day universal can compare to Universal of the 90s. King Kong, Earthquake, Twister, Jaws, heck even Terminator with the smells and actors, not to mention the waterski and boat stunt shows. Now it’s all watered down, screen focused, “mass appeal” goyslop. They’re riding by on the coat tails of good will and good engineering my from decades past and they know they can keep pushing out lowest possible cost slop bc plebs will keep eating it up
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>>2856525
It’s all “muh IP” faggots. Shit you not, I know people who go disney and/or universal, ride the one ride they wanted to ride bc it was their fav IP, then leave. You see it at events like HHH too - I’ve met people who will go for one specific haunted house bc it’s themed to their fav show/ IP, then fucking leave. Literal NPCs
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>>2856527
Oh. And they spend more time taking pictures for FB/ Insta than actually enjoying the park. It’s just sad and soulless. There are millions of people just like this, and that’s who the parks are now catering to. They don’t try anymore bc they know they don’t need to. Just look at what happened at disney and the new cars section. It’s just sad
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>>2856525
>>2856527
>>2856528
Counter-point.
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>>2856503
Universal UK?
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>>2856531
RRReplacement. Being announced today. They also painted the work wall black last night.

90% chance its Fast and Furious. 10% chance its BTTF
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>Hollywood Drift
>In the New York section of the park.

What were they thinking?
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>>2856534
Stop asking questions, goy. Standards don't matter.
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And now...we wait
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>>2856535
Lmao. This desu
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>>2856534
Hollywood is forever cursed to have nothing unique
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https://youtu.be/ghxzLw2wRis

We made it bros.
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>>2856544
Checked. Such a small plot though. I’m sure it’ll just be replaced by another motion simulator
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Official press release.

>170ft spike over city walk
Wew lad

>>2856545
It's the biggest showbuilding on property. It's so big it has a HHN house stuffed inside of it. Supercharged didnt just take over Earthquake, it also removed the Beetlejuice stage for the extended queue so the actual space available there is immense. It had better be a 10/10 god-tier dark ride. If it's just the same shit but themed to the Night Bus that's a huge missed opportunity
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>>2856518
It's a great coaster. Didn't get any nausea from it, but it was so wild I couldn't tell you anything that happened after the first drop. Easily the most intense coaster I have personally been on, but for fun at Fuji-Q, I think I prefer Fujiyama.
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>>2856552
What’s the best theme parks to visit that you can reach from Tokyo?
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>>2856546
~2.5x the hagrids spike, ~0.6x the BTTF spike. Sounds a fun enough coaster but it's not going to be as good as the Hollywood one.

Intrigued by them saying the Hollywood one will be one of a kind though, implies there's more of a difference than just layout. Will the Orlando one be free-spinning instead of controlled spinning?
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>>2856555
The entire point of the ride system is a controlled spin so they can simulate drifting around corners.

It's probably just the layout and the fact it's on a hill. If the leaked layout video was true (which looks to be likely) the Orlando one is going to go much higher and be a lot more intense.

I just wish they would differentiate them with names. Sunset drift or Backlot drift would have been better
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>>2856553
I only did Fuji-Q and the two Disney parks. If you want coasters, Fuji-Q is great, but if you want theming and/or dark rides, DisneySea is the best theme park I've been to.

>>2856556
The should have called it Fast and Furious: Race Through New York, so they could kill two shit rides with one coaster.
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>>2856546
>170ft
They should have made it 200ft tall to tie Mako even though the train won’t even go all the way up the spike. Or 199ft if they gotta put a flashing light on it at 200ft. It doesn’t make a difference in ride experience but it would sound cooler. In reality this is only a couple ft higher than the old coaster and again it won’t go up the whole spike
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>>2856525
What about Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey?
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>>2856624
I would pay an ungodly amount of money for them to turn on the original ending animatronics.
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>>2856546
It is wild that they are still calling it "Hollywood" despite not being anywhere near Hollywood like its twin.

>INB4 it sucks just as much as RRR but now they need to cope for a few years and tear 2 of them down instead of just 1.
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>>2856594
This. Lost opportunity, all they needed was a couple more feet. I guess SeaWorld retains its title as the rollercoaster capital of Orlando
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>>2856594
>>2856736
Probably costs a (relative) fortune to send a LIM launched vehicle that high. Gravity hills are free energy after the first lift hill, but everything a LIM does has a dollar cost for the electricity. Top Thrill was estimated to cost the park $3-5 per launch just due to the electricity. The ride vehicle already (presumably) eats electricity due to having the charge the trains for the spin mechanic + ride audio.

Probably also the engineering of the track + unique controlled spin vehicle doesn't allow for the forces a launch that high would require.

Universal has never really cared that much about the thoosie records anyways. They had plans for a 200ft hypercoaster in the pad that eventually became Skull Island but scrapped it. Clearly it's not a priority.
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>>2856744
$5 per launch. Launches 200x per day. $1000 per day, prohibitively expensive?
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>>2856388
>You realize this hypothetical fake scenario makes thoosies look like little bitches, right?
A lot of people don’t like hanging around Disney adults. I wouldn’t say they’re all bitches.
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>>2856770
That's 365k per year. It adds up, especially if you consider the maintenance expenses of the LIMs and cooling they require on top of that.

I'm honestly just speculating but it's probably not as simple as just tacking 30 additional feet on top of the spike and cranking the LIMs to max power.

>>2856771
I'm saying there's no disney adults that post here. I highly doubt any anon from this general is lining up at 7am to get a limited edition Moana popcorn bucket. You're fighting an imagined enemy.
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>>2856388
I wouldn’t say the highly themed parks are the target of the surf coaster anyway. Those parks need high capacity and standup coasters require extra loading time. Also Pipeline’s theming is light/easy. Most of the queue has no theming and the loading area is shit like item storage being coolers.

I guess the hard part is that you can’t exactly disassociate surfing with the coaster, and even shitty chains like Six Flags make low effort attempts at theming like with DC and western areas. So they’d have to come up with some reason to have a beach themed coaster. But Sea World? There’s no reason they all shouldn’t have one of them.
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>>2856395
We should try again on /tv/. /trv/ just doesn’t get much traffic.
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>>2856391
A key point is that no one here actually goes to parks frequently. Most people who talk about parks here are referring to some distant memory, not something that they did recently. I will actually post here while in a queue at a park reporting my experiences but pretty much no one else does this.
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>>2856402
But he’s really trying to get Denmark to cede Greenland peacefully right? (honestly I agree, how’d such an irrelevant country end up with such an a massive piece of land)
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>>2856774
Disney could do it as a Silver Surfer coaster. Or Moana. I think it can be separated from the surfing concept though.

>>2856775
Cant. Janny forbid it and the threads will be deleted. This general was the agreed upon compromise. All you can do is advertise this genny's existence when you see people discussing things tangentially related to theme parks or rollercoasters.

>>2856776
I go at least once a month. A few of us have passes and there's at least 2 guys that work at Universal that post here.
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>>2856534
USO has irredeemably shit theming and they know it, so they’d don’t even bother hiding it.
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>>2856774
If only there was a Disney property that is still massively popular internationally where surfing features!
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>>2856780
IMO Stitch should be utilized by Disney as a "break glass in case of needing a billion dollars" situation and be done in a way that's a parody of the classic disney dark rides. Like it would start out as a normal dark ride but then stitch comes in and fucks it all up kinda like the monkey from Mystic Manor.

It's kinda nuts he isnt utilized at all in the parks given how much of a merch juggernaut the IP is. He has bought so many vacation homes for disney shareholders. He's the one IP that appeals to moms as much as it appeals to their kids.
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>>2856773
>I'm saying there's no disney adults that post here.
Lmao "oh I'm totally not a Disney Adult! All I do is read about Disney, watch Disney movies on Disney+, daydream about Disney, visit Disney parks when I can, and discuss all things Disney online... But at least I'm not one of them!"
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>>2856776
I have platinum passes for Bush Gardens/ SeaWorld and a 2 Park Premier Pass for Universal. I don’t go to Disney bc it’s gay and for little kids/ toddlers. Also, Disney adults
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>>2856788
Checked. This guy knows what’s up
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>>2856534
The area between minions and new york is a void that is whatever the fuck they want it to be. Honestly it's close enough to hollywood that they could say "uh yeah that technically counts as hollywood".

>>2856776
I do, I just don't have much to say.
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>>2856544
Has anyone else developed a small attachment to this ride knowing how universally hated it is? Although I’m the guy who brother did maintenance on this ride so maybe that’s just coating my feelings.
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>>2856798
It's just kinda indefensible, theres nothing good to say about it, I'd rank it alongside Superstar Limo and that had the excuse of a last minute overhaul fucking it up.
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Calling it now, Supercharged will get replaced by an indoor Jaws ride using the same ride system.
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>>2856800
No way they get away with using the ride system again.
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>>2856801
It's a fully functional dark ride system that's not even a decade old, another anon mentioned Superstar Limo which also got a retheme rather than a full replacement.
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So what's actually going here?
You can bet on at least 3 bars and a coaster less thrilling than Tron with the theming of Slinky Dog. But what else?
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>>2856807
Dragon Maleficent coaster that lets them recycle the Beastly Kingdom Dragon coaster concept and some kinda villain team up dark ride.
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>>2856807
Something similar in size and scope to Galaxy Edge. And like GE it'll probably have a lot of the good ideas and soul stripped out of it because of budget cuts.
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>>2856798
It's the only theme park ride I've ever felt the, "so bad it's good," feeling for. Literally everything about it is wrong, so much so that I feel absolute joy riding it. I still hate it for replacing the obviously superior Earthquake, but I admit a very small part of me will miss giant Vin Diesel hanging off a tiny helicopter.
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>>2856744
That’s nothing. Also propelling an extra 30 ft would barely change how much it costs
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>>2856788
Based
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>>2856798
Pic rel is the ride I’ve mourned the loss of more than any other in the past couple years
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>>2856861
Generations of Floridians experienced their first upside down rollercoaster on the legend. Truly sad. Scorpion was a landmark
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Disney Urbexfags you have one fucking job. Adam The Woo is gone and no one has the balls now
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>>2856873
It's not abandoned though, they're converting it into Imagineering offices.
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>>2856873
>>2856876
I know this topic has been done to death by now but seriously, this whole thing was such a catastrophic misfire from the start. I genuinely think it was doomed on a conceptual level
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>>2856878
Look at the aerial photo, it’s literally just a corrugated steel warehouse they skimped on, thinking they could ride the IP as high as the fucking moon. Obviously even starfags have a limit of how much they’ll get ripped off
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>>2856807
Multi-launch coaster and I'd wager a dark ride using the Peterpan/Avengers system.

As it's naturally going to skew a bit older I think the coaster is going to be another "family+" on straddling the line between family and white knuckle (big drop and airtime hills) but it feels like it needs a USP to properly differentiate between Tron, it'll 100% be an Intamin but a tilt launch like Tokyo wouldn't make sense.

As the other anon said, lots of places to spend money. A sit down restaurant (don't think it'll be a character breakfast place as too big of a risk of screaming kids), a quick service and a drinks focused place. They'll 100% try again to make a butterbeer meme item after failing with blue milk.
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>>2856861
>>2856872
I miss the Python more
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Regional theme park fan going to break some fresh news for you
>Universal Studios Japan has revealed plans for new Pokémon experiences, which will then be introduced to Universal's parks across the world.
https://blooloop.com/universal-studios-japan-pokemon-experiences/
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>>2856933
Python was too intense for me. Those Arrow corkscrews were rough, especially the early ones like Python
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>>2856935
OMG a Pokémon parade? How exciting! I bet your grandkids will love it!
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>>2856878
>middle class completely priced out of it
>while at the same time not being good enough for richfags who could afford it
Dumb idea that could never possibly succeed. A 3-day star wars larp experience would always have needed to be expensive just to break even because of all the actors required, but the amount of people who both want a 3 day star wars larp and can afford something like that is very small. If it was just a regular hotel themed to star wars instead of a larp experience it probably would've been fine, they should've done that instead.
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>>2856947
I feel there must have been a dozen points where they should've stopped and gone "This concept can't work". They should have looked at their own cruise ships, Butlins or Centre Parcs and done something closer to a holiday camp or all inclusive resort. The crossover between people who do theme holidays and murder mystery weekends, those who are rich, those who have families, those who would book a holiday in Disney but not actually do Disney... is tiny.

The capacity, the cost, those insane "you will be doing this activity for 23 minutes before spending 15 minutes on this activity" schedules, the fake buffet where you get interrupted by the dinner show (sucks for those seated at the end), Going to Disney but only spending 2 hours in the park. It's telling that when the initial set of bookings dried up that they had to rush out a load of "we'll give you money off if you book a disney holiday afterwards" offers.
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>>2856935
>across the world

Interesting wording. Saying across the world and not just "US and JP" hints that Shanghai and/or UK may possibly see it, Mario Kart ride system for a Pokemon Safari in UK? So current rumours (with some basically confirmed) are

>Spider-man in Tokyo is becoming Pokemon
>Pokemon is going to be lost continent in orlando, Zelda in Epic
>Pokemon still rumoured for the Simpsons replacement but that seems less likely if IoA gets a Pokemon ride

Most widespread rumours from Universal end up being true at points (they just change plans a lot like with MoM changing ride systems and parks constantly)
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>>2856956
>Tokyo
>Shanghai
Casual detected
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I wonder if Disney employees who play the characters in the parks get debriefed on Kingdom Hearts lore just in case some autist tries to bring it up to them.
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>>2856999
I wonder if the Universal employees who play the characters at The How To Train Your Dragon land know alot about Norse Mythology since their characters would obviously know all about it, and some autist could try asking them something like "who's are favorite norse god who isn't Thor, Odin or Loki?"
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>>2856999
Someone leaked character training documents indicating that at least the Mickey crew are given a briefing on it while House of Mouse is considered "not canon".
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>>2856999
>hey if some incel says kingdom hearts just motion for security and they will be escorted off the property
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>>2856999
it seems to be on a "need to know" basis
characters who feature heavily in kingdom hearts like donald and goofy, their actors are likely told or already know about kindom hearts
everyone else will have a high variance
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>>2856788
Universal’s become pretty gay too with all the Harry Potter slop in every one of their parks. And other awful IPs.
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>>2857020
Are you considering the shareholders, though?
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>falcons flight hasnt had any significant operation challenges

I'll be damned. They really did the impossible with this one. If it was stateside or in EU people would be going apeshit for it. Every single person online was predicting total disaster on all fronts but they pulled it off

>>2857020
Universal makes incredibly dogshit blockbusters that any thinking person would look at and immediately diagnose as terrible merely by the trailer, yet they still bring in billions. It's maddening. What was the last major hit film Universal had?
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>>2857023
The doomers saying it wouldn’t open are idiots. I do wonder how it will hold up long term. There is too much track in hard-to-get-to areas. For TT2’s spike work last summer they had to rent a million dollar crane. This is much taller than TT2 and has some other areas that I’m curious how they’ll hold up to the desert heat and sand. Check back in six months.

Side note, the reviews on Reddit are insufferable. They each start out with a novel about how they were built with horrific labor conditions. Yeah it’s in Saudi Arabia. Who cares? Stop trying to virtue signal. Also the first review was from some gay. Like why would you risk going there? And he said the rainbow lighting was “pride colors”. Give the rainbow back to the kids you degenerates
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>>2857027
Reddit is deddit now. Every thread is low effort '''joketelling''', rehashing memes, proving pop culture references and divisive bullshit.
Feels botted.

I always maintain, if a post doesn't leave you feeling informed, it's bot-adjacent. If something tries to promote something which any nation state would benefit from, it's bot-adjacent.
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>>2856878
>doomed on a conceptual level
No. Conceptually it's fine. People theoretically would love to larp at a star wars hotel.

It's at just about every single level of execution that it falls apart. Despite all its problems the absolute worst one is that it's entirely focused on the sequel trilogy. I guarantee you it would still be operating today if it was OT.
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>>2857049
Star Wars just isn't a good match for Disney. It needs to exist in a grittier setting. There's enough content and lore to have its own park.
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>>2857010
>>2857015
Now I want to see how long I can hold some Aladdin or Mulan actor hostage by riffing about Kingdom Hearts for as long as possible. Just give them the full rundown on everything their buddy Sora has been up to.
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>>2857081
LOL. nice way to end up on a list.
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>>2857065
Most knotts visitors are people who got priced out of DL (and likely other things) and the bank company probably sees then as easy money
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>>2857065
>>2857109
It's a credit union for employees
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>>2857109
I’ve not really visited any parks outside of the UK and Florida, but when I was growing up I thought Knotts had an excellent reputation and it sounded like it was a place worth visiting if you made it out to California. Recently, I hear bad things about the demographics and all the stereotypes that come with that. Is it true? Bc it was on my bucket list when I was a growing up so I really want to visit but I don’t want to end up in the type of park with a “rowdy unaccompanied teenager” problem and have my dreams smashed
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>>2857115
The problems generally scale with crowds, the park is absolute kino on slow days but pretty bad on busy days. I think the chaperone policy helps a bit since I haven't heard as many bad things as there were in ~2022
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Is USJ worth it? I’ll be going to Osaka this year in like November. I did USF and Island of adventure last year and was able to ride everything. If not are there any other good parks? Note I am 6’6 so if even trying to go to these theme parks is a waste let me know.
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>Great Adventure survey went out
>Asking if people prefer the theming of Boardwalk (current area that will get the spinning coaster) or DC
>They might theme their last chance coaster to turn around the park after fucking DC, the second DC themed low capacity shuttle coaster on concrete in the past 3 years
Please shut down the park if it happens, there is no plan and it is not possible to improve the industry-low reputation if this is what they are doing
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>>2856047
I have now begun the work of reviewing Epcot Late Night Party. Soon you will be enjoying my review.
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>>2857193
i love driving past this big bastard
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>>2856047
Review of Epcot Party night
Nostalgia is a powerful thing. The minute I arrived, I realized you can never recapture what we had in the 90s. Our culture was homogenous. We were all polite. We were all Christian. Mostly white. Things have vastly changed. I was amazed that Epcot makes so much money but it was so dirty. Had grime everwhere. Street was dirty. Walking up Soarin was astonishing. The carpet needs vaccuming and cleaning. Stains.

The rides themselves are as good as I remember.

I got my two least favorite songs on the Guardians playlist. Blondie and Chumba Still, the ride is the best ride ever made.

Test Track is a classic Epcot ride. Good ride.

I had to run to everything for three hours in order to get my itinerary done. Loved being able to get free snacks all night.

The workers were a little annoyng. They almost seemed to mock us. But I've always loved the Disney model where the workers are friends and kind to each other and also get to enjoy the night by dancing and having fun of their own. Customer service went down a little. When I asked questions they just acted like they didn't know anything.

I don't like the additions. The creation store and the glorified starbucks. Ugly.

I got on all the rides including rides that have one to two hour waits normally under fifteen minutes. Most of the people there were adults. One lady got drunk and I think she got sick on the Test Track ride. It was weird to see at Disney. They used to never have alcohol. I wonder how they're gonna handle this new angle of derilict. They have to be making bank off of the alcohol though $$.

The guests were very different from Bush Gardens and from Magic Kingdom which usually has very young happy families.

Lots of wealthy gays taking photos with the kids they bought. Lots of liberals. Nobody was smiling. My kid kept farting so mahybe thats why. It always seems like my kids decide to do silent farts in these long lines to rides I really want to go on.

(1)
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>>2856047
(2)
The culture really struck me the most. A lot of liberalism. Disney used to lean right wing. It was kind of clean like the way Mormons portray themselves with the perfect families and the Good Life.

I think the vibe of the night was really not that great.

A lot of the guests were there for the exact same reason I was. To ride rides. They didn't care about the dance music. Tbh I found the music obnoxious. I expected a more relaxing vibe with jazz playing. Not dance music.

I didn't get to ride my favorite ride. Mexico. Becuase it was only 3 hours and I wanted to make sure to get in the rides that usually have much longer wait times. I basically paid to ride Guardians twice.

I got into a fight with my spouse who hates Disney because they wanted to ride the Mission Space ride and I'm terrified of that ride and they wanted me to go. I'm the one who paid for everything. I did this instead of getting a dishwasher.

The spouse and I were talking about the IP thing. I finally understand why everyone whines about it.

IN the Mexico ride, the ride was about the Mexico experience, with the characters just briefly showcased. It wasn't about the characters, it was about Mexico.

Norway has been completely erased to just be Frozen. France was erased to be Ratatouille. Well, actually France area looks really nice. They did a great job there. I loved how it looked. I think my big issue is I already saw the movie and these rides are just like opening a kid's book and watching scenes from the movie. No innovation, no mystery, no learning, no new experience. It takes away the education aspect and exciting STEM/ IMAGINATION of the earlier Epcot rides. I don't like that its going straight to low IQ entertainment. They had some artists showcasing their work there. Good artwork. Talented. The prints weren't overpriced either. Only $50.

They also block half the park. They block around France and Norway. That means no Japanese store. Its my favorite store.
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>>2856361
I haven't seen Bianca in forever. When he first started dating her, he was hitting above his weight. Now it seems like he manages to keep himself in shape while she gets fat. She gets judgy about people who show their kids on youtube. I get it but I personally enjoy that the Trackers share parts of their personal lives. I think he dragged her into his channel. She reminds me of my spouse. Is not a Disney adult. I heard she has a disease that messes up her spine too. I wonder why they haven't had any kids or gotten married? they've been together forever. Millenials are so noncommital.
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>>2857115
A season pass at Knott’s is cheaper than a day admission at Disneyland and it also has the rides that are more attractive to teens. Given its SoCal location, naturally these teens tend to be undesirables. Disneyland has this undesirables problem too but Knott’s is a lot cheaper and has more teen-friendly rides. They do habe a chaperone policy which has helped ands its definitely still worth visiting
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>>2857214
(3)
Overall its worth it. The views of the water with the different lights are lovely. The rides are all under 15 minutes. The snacks are a great perk.

I don't like that most restaurants are closed. Its weird that Epcot is now using normie music instead of their own for some things. The customers didn't seem very happy. It wasn't relaxed. I wanted an adult quieter vibe. It was nice having employees and not having massive crowds. At 9 pm the crowds are depressing. I can't believe how many people get packed into that place. It feels like Hong Kong. Way too many people.

Its also dirty. Magic Kingdom and Busch Gardens are very sparkly, clean, using lots of plants for the Fl sun. This place needs better cleaning crews. The bathrooms were stinky. I was glad they had the toilet covers.
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>>2856047
The best ride is the history ride in the golf ball. There is something about those old school non-DEI rides.
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>>2857005
Heimdall
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>>2857214
>It was kind of clean like the way Mormons portray themselves with the perfect families and the Good Life.
My god maybe Poseidon was on to something
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>>2856873
Still no autopsy results. I think he was past the urban exploring stage.
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>>2856544
This is excellent news. That ride takes up so much space and its a terrible ride.
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>>2856509
Where can I take this survey?

>>2856518
Reported
>>2856395
cringe. reading this made me realize how stupid i am to take pride in accomplishing anything on 4chan and bragging about it
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>>2856361
They seriously have a painting with two horses wearing hats in the background. I swear that these two are soulmate grandmas in early thirties Orlando adult bodies. Disney has replaced church.
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>>2857253
That's Johnny Fedora and Alice Bluebonnett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzyR-xSBK0k
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Why do some of these Disney people go to theme parks every day of their vacation? Not only that but when they talk about their vacation they consider this normal.
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>>2857160
If you're in Osaka you could do worse than spend a day there. I was just there last October/November so I can tell you crowds will be intense and queues will be long (i.e. 3 hours for Minecart Madness as an example), but not as intense as October when HHN is happening. Still, no way you'll be able to do every ride unless you get express pass.
I can answer some questions if you've got any. Not sure if your height will cause issues but some stuff like Mario Kart would be very cramped I imagine, the restraints are a bit tighter in general.
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>>2857251
Did I act like it was a fucking accomplishment or did your pre-existing psychological disorder add that aspect, you fucking gaywad?
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Bad news. It appears Wicked was a hit.
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>>2857272
Wicked for Good massively underperformed and kinda soured the public on the franchise.

We're still probably getting Wicked at Epic or UK though.
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>>2857272
Sounds more like a stage show that a ride. Weren't they building a show building in Epic next?
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>>2857275
That's specifically for Celestial Park and seasonal events.

>>2857274
It still crossed the billion dollar threshold and that's all Universal cares about.
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>>2856780
Supposedly B&M doesn’t want to work with Disney because of design flexibility and Disney wanting creative control. Vekoma is a better partner for them anyways. B&M’s newest coasters including Pipeline are a bit rattley while Vekoma makes the smoothest coasters around now.
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>>2857287
>Supposedly B&M doesn’t want to work with Disney because of design flexibility and Disney wanting creative control. Vekoma is a better partner for them anyways.
Yeah. In the past Disney wanted to use custom-designed trains one of their coasters, I think it was RnRC, and Vekoma is one company that is receptive to those kinds of ideas. B&M will want to sell you the design, track, and trains, but you have to take all of them. They don't want you running third party hardware on their system. Intamin isn't much different. That's their approach to mitigating liability more than anything.

>B&M’s newest coasters including Pipeline are a bit rattley
You guys have got to get over this
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>>2857289
I only mentioned it because others mentioned it. I’ve been on Iron Menace, Pipeline and Penguin Trek and thought they were all fine. Not as smooth as Vekoma’s newer coasters but on Iron Menace and Penguin Trek I didn’t experience the problem.

Intamin still works with Disney but I remember they released liability over modifications to what is now Incredicoaster and the DCA Ferris wheel which they also made. Disney had the loop retracked (more than once) and after market parts for repairs which is an intamin no-no. That’s also why Volcano got axed because KD had them upgrade the controls and they refused to proceed without purchasing and installing Intamin parts to replace after market parts they’d been using. They told them F you and closed it instead
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>Alton Towers now have three Granny themed attractions
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>>2857294
Secret Weapon 9 will be called Gushing Grannies
Trust the plan
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>>2857228
Did you forget that half of the ride is a shitty jibjab video in the dark?
The loud rickety ass ride vehicles and the shit ending killed any re-rideability. I never rode it in it's previous iterations but I just watched a pov on youtube to get an idea of what the downwards portion used to be like. No idea what prompted them to butcher it. I was under the impression that maybe they just ran out of room but it appears that they used to have proper sets back then so wtf?

Hot take but Spaceship Earth in it's current form is not even top 5 Epcot rides and that's an absolutely generational fuckup of galactic proportions.
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>>2857301
They restored some effects in the descent recently but it still sucks, sse really needs a retrack and an actual redo of the descent.
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>>2857301
Yes but the history scenes and Judy Dench make up for it
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>>2857303
Figment will get his redo first and that wont be for another century.
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>>2857274
They tied WfG to every possible thing but it wasn't popular enough to deserve it. Plus Ariana Grande is a filth loud mouthed liberal atheist. And so is the creepy bald lady. The movie is so promoted but the set looks cheap.
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>>2857258
Oh neat. Thats pretty cute
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>>2856047
My ad block stopped working and they're showing porn in the ads even though this is a blue board?? I'm getting older and I'm Christian. I don't want to see this.
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>>2856047
Reminder there are people who live the life you dream about

https://youtu.be/4iOqNnq4780?si=e4IZW09pwLTGpQxp
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>>2857268
Thanks Anon. What are some good exclusives I could do here? I haven't done Super Nintendo Land yet. I saw flying dinosaur and honestly that one interests me a lot.
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>>2857367
>>2857268
Also what are some lame things to for sure avoid? I already did Harry Potter but my GF loves those British fucks so she for sure wants to do it.
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>tfw you will never be able to ride hagrids without an express pass ever again
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>>2857437
lmao imagine being such a goodgoy you stand outside for 3 hours to consooooom. Love themeparks, but this behaviour is baffling.
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>>2857437
Hopefully whatever is going in lost continent will help a lot. A big E-ticket family ride will do a lot to get hagrid's queue down.
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>>2856047
Epcot Festival of the Arts
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>>2857466
https://youtu.be/LMvf9kOu7qw?si=xPikM_NHeGXskLjx
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>>2857449
>Hopefully whatever is going in lost continent will help a lot.
Its Pokémon, that area will be nuts to butts for months after it opens.
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>>2857443
I can understand if its a new ride. But for it to be that long after the first month is lazy .
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>>2857470
There's a strong argument that it's the best family coaster in the world, it's fairly understandable it remains popular.

E-ticket family coasters are always massive waits, even if they're nothing special
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>>2857437
It's fucked. I love theme parks but the level of jewish schemes that are normalized now is absurd. When they roll out on demand single ride express its gonna be a shitshow

The biggest problem is the single rider queue starts 1/3rd of the way into the standby queue and the people working the gate never know if its open or not so you have to either wait in standby hoping single rider is open, or cut through the line like a jackass and hope its open otherwise you have to walk all the way back out of the line like a jackass.

I honestly think a politician would do very well in florida running on banning fastpasses in general. Every the fucking florida state fair has them now
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>>2857482
Hyde Park Winter Wonderland has them and the rides are expensive as fuck to begin with.

Ultimately though, queues like Hagrids happen from having an unbalanced park. You need a "nah, not today" factor but when a ride is such an overwhelming priority that has a much smaller effect. Another family thrill ride at IoA would have a massive effect.

Wonder what effect USUK will have. UK visitors will obviously be hit but I suspect you could see a few Brazillians cross the Atlantic for their holiday too.
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>>2857367
>>2857368
Alright here's some ride stuff:
>Hollywood Dream
THE USJ ride. Fun coaster that gives you some really nice views of the park as it goes all around the entrance area. You can select one of 5 music tracks, but everyone will choose "Osaka Lover", the "canon" way to ride. It's like a shared cultural experience there, don't be surprised to see people singing along and vibing to it. Very fun experience, but of course you can pick whatever you feel like. There is also a backwards version, but I haven't done that one as the queue for that one is the longest. Also, this one is extra nice to do at night, so if you can only do it once wait until it's dark.
>Space Fantasy
Spinning coaster. Was closed when I went, maybe it'll be open for you. Sometimes has seasonal overlays.
>4D theater
They often change what is playing here, so keep an eye out to see what it is. Usually it's anime or something like Godzilla.
>Flying Dinosaur
Really intense flying coaster. I'll be the first to admit I was too pussy to ride it, but the people I was with fucking love it. Definitely the highest profile exclusive here.
>Jaws
Didn't used to be exclusive but sadly now it is. Don't miss out, it is an absolute classic. Everything is in Japanese of course, but it doesn't make it any less fun.
>Mario Kart
Pretty fun to do once and the queue is fantastic, but honestly the ride itself is pretty underwhelming. If you don't want to wait like two hours at least for it, you might wanna skip.
>Mine Cart Madness
I personally loved this ride a lot (as a big fan of the DK games), but that wait time is astronomical. If you go to the park like an hour in advance to rope drop and run over there first thing as the park opens you'll only have to wait like 60-90 minutes, otherwise it rarely gets below 3 hours. Up to you if you wanna put in that effort or not.

There's also Minions and an entire kiddie land with Sesame Street, Snoopy and Hello Kitty, but you probably don't care about that
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>>2857499
Here's some general stuff as well
>Get there early, people in Japan start lining up like two hours in advance, it's no joke. I was there about an hour/45-ish minutes before and there were already shittons of people.
>You might need to get an entry pass for Super Nintendo World. If you go there first thing in the morning you can just walk right in, but after it fills up you will need to get a return ticket so you can enter at a specific time.
>There's a second rush of people in the afternoon when school is out, USJ is a very big locals park and students use it to hang out after school.
>Crowds get a lot more manageable the last two hours before closing. Since you mentioned Potter, we were able to walk right up to it just before closing. Keep an eye out for that.
>Staff is ridiculously nice and happy. Don't be surprised if you buy something at a store and they strike up a little conversation to ask how your day is, if it's your first time here, etc.
>They have tons of seasonal snacks, overlays etc, so look up if there's anything that might interest you. Be aware that their snack game is huge and people will line up for everything.
>Hot dog in the Donkey Kong area is very nice, worth a try
>Don't think you can eat something in City Walk after the park closes, all those restaurants close super early. If you still need dinner like we did, either eat it beforehand in the park, or take the train back into the city and eat something there.
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>>2857443
1 hour for a line is my absolute limit and that is if people are with me and want to go on it or if it is a brand new thing
20 minutes is the max before I would dip for something else
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I really like how the Rise of the Resistance queue has bench seating in the walls.
I was surprised to see that the disneyland version has way more rock-shaped seating than the disneyworld one
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Speaking of waits and queues, I wish Jimmy Fallon was less shit of a ride so the queue structure took off. I think having a large open room full of shit to do is better than standing and slowly shuffling through people's farts and sweat odor for an hour

How some park hasnt allowed people to wait in an arcade type area with a restaurant to maximize sale potential is beyond me. They monetized damn near everything else.
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>>2857482
>When they roll out on demand single ride express
Maybe that's just the future of theme park pricing, at least at the larger parks

You pay admission and then pay per attraction
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>>2857512
Reasonable. An hour for me in line even with people I know would be hard because it feels like such a waste of time. I don't know why people go to parks on weekends, I'd rather do anything else.
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>>2857540
Disney already has it. When I was there last year I was kinda shocked. When I went to Avatarland, the app was pushing me to buy 3 lighting lane uses for like $20/person. They probably make bank when the line is like 50 minutes and people are faced with either waiting or dropping $80.

It's totally fucked and should be illegal. It used to be that your ticket price covered the rides and everything else cost money, but they are taking away the rides part so what exactly is the ticket buying?
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>>2857546
Go to publicy-traded property, get treated like a publicy-owned money making machine. 0 sympathy.
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>>2857548
>customers cannot advocate for themselves

It's part of the equation, stupid.
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>>2857549
i'm not sure why you're doing backflips to try and justify enriching properties on the stock market. they're legally obligated to facilitate the world's biggest wealth transfer, and scam you for all they can.
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>>2857551
Are you retarded? I understand how capitalism works, but there's part of the equation you are ignoring and that is the role of regulation in a democratic system and general consumer sentiment. If people feel ripped off they eventually stop consuming and business practices are dropped or updated
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>>2857443
I used to wait in 3 hour lines to ride Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster back in the 2000s and it was worth it. Maybe not so much Dragster but it was still pretty incredible. In unthemed switchbacks. Millennium had a DJ in the queue. The themed and shaded Hagrid’s queue is a much more comfy way to spend 3 hours and IMO it’s worth it too.
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Just saw someone say Velocicoaster is immersive. Is this widespread? Do statues of dinosaurs really do that for people?
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>>2857618
Probably someone paid by Uni's marketing department, "immersive" tends to be a marketing buzzword more than anything
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>>2857528
I understand now though why more queues don't have seating. It just artificially stretches the line.
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>>2857618
A lot of people praise the queue and the animatronic raptor heads room in particular.
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>>2857660
The actual ride has nothing except a little rock work though. It’s got some scenic views of IOA but low to the ground you see backstage walls. It’s not immersive, you go past Harry Potter land right before the roll over the water. I don’t mind at all but calling it immersive is ridiculous.
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>>2857670
>Call the water roll the "Mosasaur roll"
>No mosasaur figure in the water to growl at cars going by

Wasted potential. Wouldn't even be that bad to look at from Potterland, wizards would just call it a sea monster
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>>2857675
Why is it called mosasaurus roll? I don’t remember it doing a death roll like a crocodile in the movie (which is what the death roll element on Iron Gwazi is named after). Wasn’t this the dino that jumped out of the water? Would be a good place the jump out if they could get the timing down. As for seeing it from Potter, I don’t think Universal cares about sight lines the way Disney does considering all the visible areas with different theming and backstage stuff. And they even hired Disney imagineers. To be fair Disney isn’t as good at it in recent years
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>>2857535
Holding rooms only work for theaters. For rides you need to keep the line moving. I don’t even care for the switchbackless queues. They’re drawn out, take up more room, have interactive shit that holds up the line, and they overflow into switchbacks anyways. They also cause line jumping.
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>>2857681
Sadly neither big company has realized this so you get shit like the Guardians preshow where everyone rushes to the exit doors
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>>2857685
I don’t understand pre shows for rides. Haunted Mansion makes sense since the DL original is an elevator. Cosmic Rewind, Gringotts, Rise, older rides like Test Track and Dinosaur and RnRC. It’s not really a line control method. Is it just to entertain or to sometimes (but not always) give rider instructions? They should just modify them to work with the rooms filled with switchbacks to keep things moving
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>>2857698
Story is necessary to appreciate a heavily themed ride and people not appreciating the narratives on attractions is another sign of our decaying demographics as a society
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>>2857681
>They also cause line jumping.
Switchbacks do too. I can't figure how long corridors would promote them, but we didn't have anything like that where I worked (it was mostly switchbacks or serpentine paths).

>>2857698
They entertain & give instructions but also can function as a way to start breaking down the line into groups of whatever size they've designed it for. Ultimately they're a time sink but guests don't feel like they're in line; even better, operations can plan their next moves based on how much time is left for the pre-show.

I've seen many different pre-shows (though not all of them ofc) and I've thought about why they're around. All of them seem to share the characteristics above. There could be other reasons too. I wonder what spurred them on - at some point in the past, you just waited in lines without pre-shows. I wonder how old they are and what the first pre-show was?
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>>2857699
You can still have those story elements with switchback rooms instead of holding pens where everybody doesn’t pay attention and rushes the door. The Rise and Gringotts queues have more unique elements that add immersion but they still have holding pens where people rush the door. On rides like RnRC and ToT, many repeat riders use those pre show rooms to legally cut in line. RnRC was bad when they had the two rows because no matter where you were when the doors opened the people behind you would rush in front of you and push kids out of the way even. I fucking hate that, it makes me aggressive and defensive to do the same or keep my spot and I would prefer not to have to do that.
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>>2857701
>can function as a way to start breaking down the line into groups
I used to think this too but it really doesn’t make sense. It makes sense for theaters but not rides. Also Disney made a lot of pre shows into walkthroughs during covid and it didn’t change anything from a line management perspective. It makes some people think they’re not in line but then afterwards there is usually more line. I prefer the Star Tours type lines with entertainment in line and videos while you wait that give instructions. And Indiana Jones before they ruined the nice queue with fast pass
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>>2857709
>I used to think this too but it really doesn’t make sense.
It does to me, though

>Also Disney made a lot of pre shows into walkthroughs during covid and it didn’t change anything from a line management perspective
Yeah. But guest numbers were way down then too. Cutting the pre-show probably saved some staffing costs directly or indirectly. It's kind of like how some coasters will have dual loading stations but the park will only run one of them when they don't expect to be busy.
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>>2857721
It only makes sense based on the queue’s current layout with the preshow because there is a post-show queue that can’t be overfilled. If there is one long queue without a preshow, there is no overfill concern since there is no longer a post-show queue. There would be no benefit to breaking the queue up into groups. Btw, there was no FP during Covid so the queues were much longer than standby lines are now, however, they moved much faster. Even though max capacity was capped, those queues were still filled up.
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>>2856861
Rode it during my first visit in 2023. It was generic and forgettable (and obviously old). I think this was a lot of people’s first inverting coaster and they have nostalgia for it but I don’t think it’s a big loss. When I rode it there was only one other person besides us.
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>>2857722
>There would be no benefit to breaking the queue up into groups.
You're locked into one particular ride I think; there are many types of rides and attractions with pre-shows
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>>2856861
>>2857725
>It was generic and forgettable
That's how I felt about it. Sad for people who grew up going to BGT and riding it but not a major loss as far as coasters go.
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>>2857731
Nah I’m thinking of all of them (but not theaters). You’re probably only thinking of queues as-is with the preshow or converting pre shows into queues without modifications. Rides like Rise and Gringotts would need massive modifications and for Rise especially that would lose part of the experience. That’s kind of an isolated example though. How would splitting the queue up into groups help RnRC, Test Track, Gringotts, Rise, Guardians, ToT? From a line management and ride operator perspective, nothing would change if the quest was continuous and unbroken
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>>2857737
>How would splitting the queue up into groups help RnRC, Test Track, Gringotts, Rise, Guardians, ToT?
How would it not?
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>>2857699
Too many designers confuse "story" with just piling on exposition and it's a big problem across both Disney and Universal
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>>2856262
>Earn Lorcana Promo cards at Epcot thru Feb 23.

Earning special theme park exclusive cards at a theme park... diabolical.

I guess Universal could have special exclusive Pokemon cards at their parks, now that Pokemon is coming to them. (confirmed)
https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/202601/12275/
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Went to Universal Epic Universe!

Had an allergic reaction to food, went to the back rooms. EMTs came, got a free EKG and vomited 2 bags full. All I got was 7 fast passes and my money back.

I was paying cash and didn't have my phone to look at the menu. There was no physical menu at all, the cashier literally read me the menu like I'm a retard. Apparently they put peanut butter in the BBQ Mac and Cheese cone. Not fun.

Stardust Racers was fucking thrilling, road it 3x. I lost braincells on the Yoshi ride, and the DK and Mario Kart rides are pretty tight. The ques were cool. Some 10 year old african youth cut me in line, and I made a huge deal out of it. My sister and her friend let the twerp through, and I can't believe I said fuck you to this kids face.

The HTTYD Coaster was really fun too, along with the werewolf coaster. Worth the wait. The Frankenstein ride was really super cool too, though it's much like the HP ride at Islands of Adventure. The HP ride at Epic though isn't very impressive. Emma Watson's pantyline is so obvious I had to ride it again. Theming was cool, the frozen Butterbeer was amazing though. The pizza restaurant wasn't that great, we had some purple crusted one.

The medical staff are total fucking bros by the way. Got my whole party in a van, drove us out back, saw the elusive dragon drone, and got to the front of the line for Harry Potter.

Overall had a good time, 8/10.
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>BBQ Mac and Cheese cone

You ordered a cone named PB&J that has the word peanut listed very clearly on the menu. I also have a peanut allergy and have never had a situation where I accidentally consume peanut products because I'm anal about asking and scanning menus. They should probably put a peanut icon next to the listing though for the people who quickly scan menus before vibe ordering, but it's kinda obvious what it is man. I may exploit this system for free fast passes and a refund though. My allergy isnt as bad as yours but I could ham it up for the medics.

When I ate from there, the woman making my cone was a large Shaniqua and got pissed when I ordered the dragon fire with 10 minutes left before park close so I'm assuming that's who read it to you.

Also that's CGI emma watson and a body double before you get excited. She had nothing to do with it beyond receiving the royalty checks

>>2857725
>>2857732
It's for sure a nostalgia thing. When I went a few years ago I saw a bunch of teens and kids on it so it was still existing as the introduction to looping coasters. Riding it as an adult for the first time doesn't mean as much unless you just like vintage coasters.
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>>2857854
My mom is one of those gluten people and she actually found Epic very accommodating.
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>>2857854
>>2857906
I'd consider the park as it stands to be an excellent start.
I'd call Httyd to be the nost complete, the other areas need some more b-teir attractions to soak up crowds a bit better.
Permits have already been acquired to expand Harry Potter, which is that area that desperately needs to the most and hopefully Nintendo is next
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>>2857913
>b-tier

There's zero reason at all for the park to not go AAA-tier. In fact, across Disney and Universal there is never a reason for rides to not be Rise/Hagrids level. I'd rather get an attraction like that every 3 years than some Minions Blast shit every year. Crowd soak is a meme. Take Islands for example. A huge percentage of the guests in the park are in one specific ride's line despite having tons of "b-tier" rides all over the place. The amount of rides is irrelevant when everyone just bum-rushes one specific ride. Having state of the art shit people feel compelled to do is vastly more important than just quantity.

Epic is simultaneously huge and small at the same time. Large footprint, but due to the additional theming, you cant just slap a flat ride down like you can at USF. So each addition from now on should be a total banger.
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>>2857916
Harry Potter really needs something to soak up crowds a bit better.
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>>2857670
Idk I heard someone say Montu was immersive because
>it’s like I’m really flying through Egyptian ruins
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>>2857917
I'm not arguing that point. I'm arguing with your statement that epic needs "b-tier" rides to soak up the crowds. The problem with theme parks is that anything they build stays there for at least a decade before its removal can be justified. So if they shit out some low quality experience just to "soak up the crowds" and it sucks, it's there until the mid 2030s at the least. I'd rather they take their time and develop something amazing than quickly slap something together just so there's """more to do""". Your line of thinking is how we got Curse of the Werewolf and Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
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>>2857960
I was too fat for the Frankensteins Castle ride so all I could ride was Curse of the Werewolf.
I have since lost 40 lbs
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>>2857961
You must be fucking massive cause those kuka arms are designed to lift and rotate cars.
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>>2857962
The actual harness is pretty limited, I was over 300lbs.
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>>2857963
>300lbs
>limited

Whoever was in the car with you when you rode curse of the werewolf must have been spinning at Mach speed.
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>>2857964
Not him and not as heavy as him but still a fat fuck, I went on Crush's coaster with my brother (normal adult weight) and there were small kids on the other side. God damn the spinning was insane.
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Galacticoaster cars. Looks like the initial launch is a tire launch which is unexpected
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>>2857960
I’ve still never seen the sky like this. The one time I got a clear sky in a place without light pollution the northern lights were all over it. Which isn’t exactly a bad substitute but I’d still like to see the stars.
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>>2857968
You will never see them like that without a slow speed camera
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>>2857965
I consider the the most intense ride I have ever been on in my life to be Colossal Curl at Adventure Island. My family did not want to ride it so I went up as a solo rider. They force you to go with a group cause the raft has to be evenly weight distributed. I am about 150lbs and the three people I got grouped up with were clearly pushing 280 each.

We were going so fucking fast that when we reached the drop it was like the raft was being pulled out from under me by god himself. I could barely hang on to the handles and partially ejected from the raft as we reached the apex of the back wall. The raft rotated 180 degrees as we broke the high watermark on the wall and I got whipped around like a fucking doll. I managed to hang on, but my body was outside of the raft as we ended the ride.

Fat people make gravity rides fucking insane.
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>>2857970
kek
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>>2857916
>>2857960
The reality is that they really don't have an infinite budget, theme parks are a business and just because they could afford to do something doesn't mean they will. Sure, comcast could've doubled the budget of epic universe if they really wanted to, but that would significantly increase the amount of time it would take for the park to become profitable and make it a much riskier investment. People suggest building lower tier attractions for capacity because spending $200-400 million dollars on every single attraction is an unrealistic scenario that would never happen even if these companies could afford to do so.
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>>2857976
Makes me wonder what was/is stopping Saudi Arabia from 10x-ing the salaries of all the best imagineers to create the logical conclusion to theme parks instead of a fucking Six Flags.
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>>2857976
All of the flat rides at Islands were built with the park. Nothing b-tier has been put at islands since opening (Kong is supposed to be AAA but that's another argument all-together). Once a park is open and generating money, the game shifts from filling out the ride roster to capturing headlines and getting repeat visits with a new experience.

The design of Epic does not lend itself to allowing for b-tier rides in the same way that USF can, because the rides have to be incorporated into the overall immersive theming. You cant have a minion blast where you just slap some large posters on a show building and pretend it's Despicable Me themed. And you're right that they don't have an infinite budget, but they do have a budget and the parks make billions annually in profit. You make that money back pretty quick when you release a banger like Hagrids or Velocicoaster. It sells the tickets.
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Going to HKDL for a few days in March, is Ocean Park also worth visiting? Seems the only big coaster there is a floorless
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>>2857906
I went to the "spitfire grill" and there were no monitors like that at all unfortunately.
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>>2858044
There are monitors, they just don't display the cones. I didn't know you could order the cones from there.



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