the bridge
>>214062316Guess this is the new thread
star trek sex with shran
Lmao so thats where that gif is from
>>214062316This looks like a set from a porno
>>214062497BasedBretty gudBasedAccidentally redpilled ep (common on voyager)Based
>>214062316crazy that Kirk was killed by a bridge
>>214062537porno sets look like sets from star trek
When a starship is in dock how do they secure it once the engines are off?
watchalong bros I missed you last night. the vibes were bad though, I understand
>>214062581clamps
>>214062538Is that the one where she accuses the guy of raping her for nanoprobes?
>>214062583Couldn't even talk about the goddamn school bombing episode without schizo screeching
>>214062641Yep she says a dude raped her but he honest to god didn't. It was real in her head though.
>>214062652Im the old baker, but not op. Im off a 3 day ban for posting the lauren faust cartoon depiction of Q.
DS9 wouldn't be so boring if they went with this design instead
This is a kino Kirk episode
>>214062802honestly strict downgrade. below doofy headgear tier.
>>214062685Yes and the Doctor egged her on even after the rest of the crew told her to chill out.
>>214062552Live by the bridge. Die by the bridge.
>>214062880there were so many bad headbands in DS9 for some reason
>>214062920
>>214062932There was a headband shop on the promenade.
>>214062497Great lineup though the b-plot of Thine Own Self is pointless filler
>>214062802How were they supposed to carry that out on a weekly television budget?>>214063026The Troi plot would have made sense in season two or three. Not with fucking 10 episodes left.
>>214062880
Thanks for the drinks
>>214063236cheers
>>214063236Is this the thread?
>>214063236*me as I continue drinking beers throughout the evening*
I like DS9 season 1. It has some of my favorite eps (Duet, Dramatis Personae, Move Along Home, Battle Lines) in all of Star Trek
I'm substance free
>>214063408Why didn't they ever go back to check on Kai Opaka?
>>214063397>>214063236>tfw you get cast as an alien and they dont put any makeup on you
Your refutation, boomer trekkies?
klingons do not saddle up
>>214062802This is just Sebulba from Phantom Menace.
Yvette Craig is so hot
>>214063672I skip all Worf and LaForge scenes. Not racist just don't like em
>>214063638This poseur can't even think of an appropriate analogue to a paper file folder. Make it a PADD or something.
>>214063601*me immediately after the first sip of the first beer which I drank out of a wine glass for some reason during starfleet training or something and then I get kicked out of starfleet*
>>214063672Alexander sucks but I like big tittied white girls, Data smoking cigs, and whiskey
>>214063638>reddit
>>214063319Im about 3 double whiskey cokes deep so yeah
>>214063562she was immortal and useless
>>214063562in universe I think they just got too crazy with Dominion stuff but yeah it is kinda weird. I think she comes back in later books or video games.meta wise, they were also too busy and wanted to focus on the "evil kai". having opaka there to feud with winn would be a short lived thing. either opaka wins and you lose a good villain or winn wins and opaka is just gone again
>>214063742My wife asked me how to block reddit on her phone. I work in IT.
>>214063638why is it always ai generated? it really is only 70 year olds who like nutrek thars insane.
>>214063832Responding to it is a mistake
>>214063769ive been drinking apple brandy for hours and im ready to fight about trek
ds9 sucks
>>214063884Fuck you bitch
>>214063884What kind? I dont like brandy but I love cognac
>>214063826why were TOS movie uniforms so HIDEOUS
>>214063813Opaka couldn't leave the planet so she never would have been in direct confrontation with Winn but they could have given her a communicator at least.
>>214063923TMP were kino
>>214063923Nutrek is the worst, even worse than ENT
>>214063959crazy that this girl is indianI don't see it desu can definitely pass as latinx
>>214063959Are the shoes part of the uniform, like footy pajamas where it's all one garment?
>>214063970That's what they look like before they were genetically polluted.
>>214063912lairds bottled in bond. its not great but at least i know its unadulterated. drinking it straight because Im degen but it would make a great mixer, especially good fit for the punch bowl
I fucking love weed
>>214063959is there underwear in space?
>>214064024I hear that despite being a notorioux prick, Shatner is unironically an extremely interesting person to talk to.He's read a thousand books so has a wide berth of knowledge in a shitload of areas so you can just sit there and listen to him all day. Wish I was Captain Kirk's friend.
>>214064024me too. i would probably be in prison if it werent for weed and trek
is "bridge officer test" even a real thing? she's already an officer shouldn't that entail knowing how to conduct yourself on the bridge? is this a real Navy thing?
>>214063769>tfw I dont keep booze in my home
>>214064105It's to be qualified to command a Starfleet vessel, not serve on one.
>>214064105its a command test not a belong on the bridge test
>>214064143The problem with that is driving. I never drive drunk
>>214064105there are different ways to move around and up in the navy but every commissioned officer is qualified to take command by default.
>>214064057
>>214064191>>214064156>>214064222makes sense
>>214064218Just dont hit anyone
the rock in this wood can be felt by its strength and hardness
Data suddenly remembers what radioactive means
>>214064471what the fuck were they thinking with this mystery plot that's not a fucking mystery
>>214064369>>214064471Data episodes are kino. I even liked Masks because it gave him a chance to ham it up for once.
>>214064523>"Le old timey anti science dark ages were bad" Same shit as 6th grade but for an hour
this scientist lady is annoying but you can't hate her. she's just baffled and skeptical as anyone would be
>>214064529Lore is kino
Give me your top 5 characters, /trek/
>>214064692Weyoun
>>214064692PicardGarakWeyounWorfData
>>214064692Lt. Cmdr. Riker (These Are the Voyages...)Lt. Cmdr. RikerEnsign RikerCmdr. Will RikerCmdr. Tom RikerMaquis Rebel Tom RikerCaptain RikerOops that was more than 5. My bad. My bad.
>>214064692
>>214064692DukatDataDamarSpockPicard
curing radiation sickness with a dose of some fucking medicine water is pretty dumb for star trek
>>214064808>How was I supposed to know that was a sacred tree? You should have told us this when I decided to bring my invasive species onto your planet.
>>214064829I get it. Jews were executed for poisoning wells. What happened to Data?
this episode and the one where Odo is on the holographic village are basically the same. the Odo one is way better
>>214063236Is that the undertaken from oblivion?
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWRON!
ds9 time
>>214064950No it isn't. Odo is a navel gazing faggot and all his episodes suck. Except the ones with quark.
Armin Shimerman is an incredible Jew actor. He plays a jew better than anyone but Larry David.
>>214065006yes it is. it was a mystery plot that contained an actual mystery for the audience, a moral dilemma and tugged at your heartstrings because his friendship with that little girl was genuinely cute. it's like they got a do over of the Dara version and fixed it
Bajorans are worse jews than ferengi
>TNG S1Humans have chartered 11% of the galaxy>TNG S2Humans have chartered 22% of the galaxyThis despite Captain Kirk and the gang seeing the centre of the galaxy, the edge of the galaxy (three times) and a shitload of other places a whole CENTURY earlier.
They shouldve kept the intro the same all seven seasons. Its absolute kino.
>>214065016Yes yes but
>>214065112That guy was supposed to be a midget but the actor killed himself before they finished filming the episode.
Odo's makeup started off being separate appliances but Auberjoinois is such a good actor without even having his face they just said fuck it and went wild making him look like an actual goo man
>>214065016he's one of the few characters that doesn't change at all. from the first ep armin reigned in how quark would be and stuck with it
>>214065157Everyone knows about that and we've seen the original scenes
>>214065178I haven't.
>>214065178I didn't know thatbecause i fucking hate this episode and never rewatch it
>>214065199Yes you have.
>>214065051They fixed it by adding Dax?
why is it so COMFY bros https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnU2qn6-hz4&ab_channel=ender4life
>>214065218was Dax in that episode?
>>214065210I knew about it but haven't seen the original scenes.
>>214065162>AAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOING
>>214065112Few characters are as based as Kivas Fajo
>baseballAs a white sox fan it sucks
>that one episode where brent spiner just flat out does his bob from night court persona but with data's makeupHoly FUCKING kino
>>214065162i like to think that odo hardly cared about his appearance before meeting nerys, other than keeping a humanoid form, so he slowly improved himself until around s3 when they finalize his makeup, so he doesn't appear so grotesque to nerys
ok I think I'm kinda understanding why they needed Dax. usually the captain would confide in and ask the advice of the first officier but in this case Kira isn't really that person, at least not yet. so it's like, who is Sisko supposed to talk to? I don't like him having a "mentor" because it just doesn't fit his personality. he does not seem like the kind of person that needs "guidance" from someone wiser. but without Dax to talk to he'd just be like, sitting in his office twirling his baseball while he thinks it over and the audience wouldn't know what he's thinking without like a voice over or something
I bought one of these. It looks a lot like a giant vagina.https://metvmall.com/collections/star-trek-deep-space-nine/products/star-trek-ds9-cardassian-symbol
>>214065353They didn't really seem close though. I know they're supposed to be old friends but I never bought it.
>>214065369I was thinking of getting this one. or the one with Romulan Commander on it
>>214065353Eventually they realized that Sisko should just talk to himself and write on the walls.
>>214065378yeah. how would you fix this dilemma? Sisko needs like, a 2nd first officer that's Starfleet or something. maybe he could be friends with an Admiral or something that checks in on him and he can call to talk things through with over with? i mean that's lame too but idk
>>214065103>VOY S1Humans have chartered 9000% of the galaxy>VOY S7Humans have chartered 6,000,000% of the galaxyWho writes this shit?
>>214065380Its a comfy shirt with a big pink pussy on it and nothing else to identify its star trek
>>214065417It was a good enough idea for the show, Dax just didn't have any chemistry with Sisko. They didn't seem like friends.
Getting punched in the face is a small price to pay to look down Kira's shirt.
>>214065500ooh wait I have an idea why not make "Dax" someone who served on the Saratoga with him? then even if they're not like, friends, they still have a bond
I wish I was in an abusive relationship with Kira
>>214065503Dukat did even more to her mom
>>214065535They could bond over putting Picard's picture on the dart board at Quark's while O'Brien mutters impotent curses in his ridiculous accent.
brosnow that the dust has settled, was Sisko kino or lame? I lean towards lame. And I love Geordi, Worf, Guinan and Uhura so DON'T call me racist as Avery would.
>>214065580Sisko is certified kino you mong
>>214065580Hes 100% insane
>>214065580how in the fuck could anyone think Sisko is lame?
>>214065580
I am pretty fucked up. Gonna sleep thru redpilled voy
Bajorans are so fucking lame my god
TO BE CONTINUED
>>214063026I thought it was based. Die, Geordie, die.
>>214065906The worst part of jews mixed with the best part of muslims.
>>214063832>only 70 year olds understand AIno wonder the PWB are importing pajeets as fast as they can
Jeri Ryan is very respomsible for President Obama
>>214066038She probably played this program over and over after she got promoted.
Im out of alcohol. See you all tomorrow.https://youtu.be/qE5yvuKoFmE?si=b8cQCNJu6ZwPn8c5
>>214064808Porthos was a demon from the Dark Tapestry, you know.
>>214063085Troi is so insufferably smug about it at the end even though she failed the exam half a dozen times too. Like Data gives a fuck you self centered cunt.
I once fucked Jeri Ryan in a nightclub. She was wearing her Seven of Nine hairstyle. Some guy watched.
>>214066342And then you woke up in your sad little studio apartment, in a pool of your own bodily fluids.
I once fucked Gul Dukat on the bridge of a Dominion warship. He was wearing the shoulder mounted visor thing. Weyoun watched.
>It's been confirmed that one episode of Strange New Worlds Season 4 will feature the cast as felt puppets, created by Jim Henson Studios
>>214066526and then you woke up in your sad one man shuttle covered in a pool of self sealing stem bolts bearing oil.
>Spammers are back
I once fucked Beverly Crusher in her late grandmother's chair. She was wearing heavy makeup. Her entire matrilineal line watched.
>>21406655030 Rock already did that
this guy did nothing wrongthe federation was losing the dominion war and needed the medical technology not to mention the sona went on to manufacture ketracel white for the dominions army after the events of this movie
>>214066572Don't you understand? It's spammers all the way down.
>>214065580Literally kino of the highest order, no one overacts like Avery Brooks
>>214066648was the dominion war even referenced during Insurrection?
>>214066648>the sona went on to manufacture ketracel white for the dominions army after the events of this moviehuhhhhh?
>>214066815>>214066910at the beginning of the movie its mentioned that the sona were making ketracel white for the dominion. since picard blew the alliance they were trying to form the sona were still in league with the dominion
I like this prop in this episode of Voyager because it's clearly just a cordless leaf blower or vacuum.
whos dick do i have to suck to get a ds9 4k remaster? im talking the real shit not the AI stuff. i need to see every pore of kira, jadzia and especially ezri
>>214066997CBS literally doesn't even have the equipment to scan film anymore. They fired the entire department that remastered TNG. It's never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever happening. It's over.
>>214066997paramount are cheap asses. remastering tng and tos didnt make them enough shekels so they will never do it for ds9 and voy
>star.trek.strange.new.worlds.s03e08.1080p.web.h264-successfulcrababout to check this out
>>214067672Spam
>>214066550Reminds me of that one time TNG crossed over with a sitcom that everyone desperately tries to memoryhole. What was it called?
Enterprise was the best series and we were robbed of the earth romulan war season.
>>214067707I wanted to see the Kzinti in live-action. Could have even adapted Known Space-esque stories is later seasons.
>>214067707>prequeltrek
>>214067707enterprise was trying to make star trek appeal to people who voted for dubwah
saw some dumb nigga in the last thread completely missing the point about the prophets and that they were never "real gods" they were always just aliens
I want to suck on Vulcan Chapels ears
>>214067781Bajewrans suck almost as much as nutrek
la'an is better than chapel
>>214066950You mean Seven?
>>214067065The fuck, why? Did some shit go down or was it your bog-standard laying off?
Dont watch gay new worlds or any trek after ENTJew Jew Abrams movies are ok as a one-off but only the first one is better than Nemesis
>>214068343They needed more funds to embezzle Kurtzman with or he would testify.
>>214068352Based>>214068494Nothing would bring me more joy than having Kurtzman's guts for garters
>>214068286more dancing
>>214067707Please. No more war arcs.
>>214067998uh yeah, me too...what episode was this?
>>214068693the new one >>214067672
>>214066550What the fuck do they think they're doing? Do they actually believe this stuff is keeping in the spirit of Star Trek, or is this just pure unapologetic self-indulgence?
>>214068730I'm going to reserve judgement for now, there's a small chance it could work
>>214066997DS9 still looks amazing in standard def, especially the later seasons. A remaster would be nice but I'm not losing sleep over it.
>>214067707There never was an Earth v. Romulan war was there? They'd had very little contact. Isn't that the big thing in that TOS 'sode, how nobody has ever seen a Romulan before?
>>214068730The writers grew up on Buffy, 30 Rock, Scrubs, Parks & Rec, Community,
>>214068774The guy who remastered TOS did a write-up of how things went down, roughly. Granted, they threw most of his ideas into the trash when they decided they wanted to do the Akiraprise show, but I like to think if ENT lasted longer more of them would slip through.
>>214063638There is a bigass continuum between lighthearted episodes and inconsequential sillyness. And SNW lingers exclusively at the worst side of the spectrum.
>>214068774haha, I'd like to eat their tacos. muawahahaha
>>214068774There was a war, there just was never any direct inter-ship communication, so no one ever knew what the Romulans looked like.
>>214068942It's like the musical one they did. It's not cool and new and refreshing if you just copying a trend that happened 20 years ago.
>>214066648Nah, he was retarded.>the planet was in Federation territory, so the Federation had all the cards>they could have set up a medical colony on the far side from the Baku village and didn't need to bother anyone, even a short stay gives you functional eyes even if your genetics only had dysfunctional ones>only the Son'a were desperate to speed up the process, there was no reason to go through with their plan>military situation was stable enough, it would only worsen when the Breen joined
>>214068642tfw no tomboy bff to take care of me after my heart is broken
>>214069125Seems weird. ENT suggests that technology was already TOS/TNG-like. So beaming onboard a Romulan ship or needing to aid Romulans or intercepting visual comms which was normal at the time could have happenedTOS suggested that technology was so primitive that visual comms were not the standard and space warfare was people in tincans looking at instruments like in a WW2 submarine movie when we already had ships zooming around like Star Wars in ENT.
>>214063236>>214063408based and allamaraine-pilled
Meanwhile, at the Redneck Star Trek Convention....
SNW is so bad, that Patton Oswalt is one of the least worst things in this episode
>>214065906>t. Riker
>>214070620I just watched the Michelle Forbes Seinfeld 'sode last night. It's the one about the BIG salad. And, because Jason Alexander is in a VOY. It's practically canonically Trek.
>>214070700>that Frasier-Voyager crossover skit>Captain Frasier, as well as Donnie kidnapping Data in TNGIs Star Trek really just a sitcom?
>>214070742it's pretty much every genre at one point or another
>>214070524It keeps getting worse and worse. The writers understand nothing about trek. The plots make no fucking sense. I've persevered through every bit of shitty nutrek but I'm reaching breaking point, I don't think I can keep going with this.
Actually I have Centurion Back Rub to thank for it
>>214070984
>>214070984I haven't seen the newest season of SNW. But, I thought the first two were OK. I could not get through PIC of DISCO though. I don't believe you that this season of SNW is worse than PIC or DISCO..
>>214071110It's gotten a lot worse, there's no question. That said, I may be experiencing recency bias.
>>214070984I am at that point too after this week's episode. What an absolute slopfest, it's a parody of itself at that pont.Captcha : aayds
>>214071503That's what happens when you hire writers that don't love Star Trek>My experience has been that our most successful new writers grew up as dedicated fans and already know the Star Trek world inside and out. With the notable exceptions of Ira Steven Behr, Jeri Taylor and Joe Menosky, three writers in a decade, I rarely had luck hiring experienced writers who could come in and understand the franchise.>Michael Piller
>>214071780Michael Piller himself also had no idea of Star Trek before. But he made the right calls with respect to how stories should be structured and what they should focus on generally.
I feel like I was having a stroke watching the newest episode of SNW. Like it's more of a LD comedy episode than normal SNW.
>>214071881Yeah I thought it was good too
>>214065103>This despite Captain Kirk and the gang seeing the centre of the galaxy, the edge of the galaxy (three times) and a shitload of other places a whole CENTURY earlier.To be fair one half of the crew was on drugs and the other half were drunk the majority of the time. I doubt they even left spacedock.
Wake and bake
>>214071300KinoDara but badGood part 2NazisSex
>>214065353Yeah, Kira has the rank of Major in the provisional Bajoran military, but her only actual real experience and training id being a terrorist, she can't really advise a Starfleet Commander on much except strictly Bajoran issues
Ok anons, I've seen Star Trek, Babylon 5, Stargate, Battlestar Galactica and The Expanse, which SciFi series do I watch next?
>>214074045farscape
>>214073972>strictly Bajoran issues"Major, remind me, how do Cardassian men like to be stroked?"
>>214074045Firefly
>>214071881I never say no to dancing La'an. Did you watch the post-credits scene? Funny stuff. At first I hated this episode but it definitely improved over time.
>>214063066Litty
>>214063066
>>214066942why would a tng movie reference a failed series like ds9? they showed janeway once in a movie & that was it
>>214068352don't tell me what to do, racist fascist bully>>214068730there's no point in catering to the old fans. their tastes are no longer fashionable, and they're dying off every day from old age>>214071881having a stroke is for geezers
>>214074045gtive up on televised sci-fi and just read heinlein and pkd
>>214068988>they threw most of his ideas into the trash when they decided they wanted to do the AkirapriseReminds me of how the Four Years War was relatively well established EU content for decades and then STD came along and raped it.
>you have lived enough to see Trek reference Nardo
Q made a reference to basket weaving in Q2. Heh.
>romu la'an
I like reading about how old trek writers were inspired by WW2 movies, submarine movies, and political thrillersand then I read about how nutrek writers were inspired by >>214068942what went wrong?
>>21407521230 Rock is stupifying in its brilliance thowever
>>214075152LEEEEEGGGGGSSSSS HNNNGGGG
>>214075212Literally every Trek is a product of it's time.It's why DS9 starts being about war and how a better world isn't really possible without Hard Men making Hard Choices. Why Voyager is directionless, derivative mediocrity. Why Enterprise is painfully American even before it fully transitions into 9/11 revenge quest stupidity.
star trek
>>214075316What would you call this current era?
>>214075316Fuck off, Voyager is basically a perfect science fiction anthology show. It doesn't need a stupid overarching plot, it has more than enough interesting standalone episodes of just plain fun science fiction. It's not about week-to-week consequences. In that way it's far superior to serialized drag-you-along drama like DS9
>>214075351Nta, but for me the current era of Trek (not including Picard), is a philosophical pushback against existential nihilism. The hope of exploration creating the meaning that the destruction of postmodernism destroyed.
>>214075212Some of the older writers weren't just inspiredThey had legit lived through it
>>214075316DS9 is TOS and TNG's logical conclusion. VOY isn't so much directionless as it is going in every fucking direction at full speed. It's not even truly episodic.
>>214075429Should have stayed in the Delta quad building a new empire.
>>214075212Downstream effect of the general infantilisation of everything
klingons dont faint
>>214075733They do after entering the bathroom after Worf has been drinking prune juice!
we brought some friends hope you dont mind!!!
>>214075390You're completely retarded then
kek this was so dumb
>>214075900Computer vent atmosphere in transporter room 3, NOW!
>>214075986so you would vent her?
>>214075351I call it the "keep desperately throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks" era. So far they feel like irony/self-awareness is the "shit"
>>214075900>People say Code of Honor is the worst episode when this exists
>>214076030i mean it is funny at least
>>214076030Because preddit retroactively declared that CoH was bad because it was le racist (something no one ever said until like 2012)
>>214075733Klingons don't get knocked the fuck out by barrels.
>>214076059CoH was shat on well before plebbit was aware of its existence for being a shit episode through and through.The unification of the Space Cathloics and Space Protestants episode was at least entertaining even if bad. Also has a foot fetish scene.
>>214076117Barrels have no honor!
>>214074588ds9 was going on during the movies except for nemesis…enterprise d getting destroyed, the borg invasion, sona making ketracel, and the uniform update were all referenced. nemesis even mentions that shinzon fought against the dominion in the war
>>214076179
>>214075351If I had to go with something I'd probably say "data driven"You can't define it as a singular thing because the top-down direction currently is serving identifiable audiences, so there is no one series that defines a span of 5-10 years anymore.
>>214075900No Irish no Klingons no targs
>>214076340but data is not in the new series he is in TNG anon and he does not drive the ship
>>214076361
season 3 is wild
>Everyone should be forced to experience horrible trauma against their will!Fuck Neelix in this episode
>when it's another Jeffrey Combs guest appearance
>>214076126>CoH was shat on well before plebbit was aware of its existence for being a shit episode through and through.I know that, but it being derided as a racist episode is very recent. To the point where people want it pulled from streaming and the blu-ray sets.
>>214076921that's one of the most disgusting alien designs I've seen. it's simple yet so ugly
>>214076734Barrels have no honor!
>>214076126>CoH was wrongfully shat on*Pure manifestation of Gene's will and the reason for Yar's existence. Shouldn't have been security chief but a (theoretically) buff chick in Starfleet could fit anywhere.
>>214074045I've been enjoying Foundation
>>214062316Does it bother anyone that in order to have an offset turbolift, the bridge has to point at an angle relative to direction of travel?
>>214076683Neex is best girl
>>214071780Michael Piller was a real gem of a writer-producer.>The answer can be found in Roddenberry’s Box.>most writers who have worked on Star Trek over the years would like to throw the box away. It may surprise you to learn that when I took over as head writer, the entire writing staff of Star Trek: The Next Generation was so frustrated and angry with Gene Roddenberry they were counting the days before their contracts expired>My first time in Roddenberry’s Box was during the very first episode I worked on as head writer. There were no scripts and no stories to shoot the following week. Desperate, I bought a spec script that had been sent in from an amateur writer named Ron Moore who was about to enlist in the U.S. Navy. It was a rough teleplay called “The Bonding” and would require a lot of reworking but I liked the idea. A female Starfleet officer is killed in an accident and her child, overcome with grief, bonds with a holographic recreation of his mother rather than accept her death.>I sent a short description of the story to Rick and Gene. Minutes later, I was called to an urgent meeting in Gene’s office. “This doesn’t work” he said. “In the Twenty-Fourth Century, no one grieves. Death is accepted as part of life.”>“All the problems of mankind have been solved,” he said. “Earth is a paradise.” Now, go write drama.His demands seemed impossible at first glance. Even self-destructive.>And yet, I couldn’t escape one huge reality. Star Trek worked. Or it had for thirty years. Gene must be doing something right.
>>214068774i think they said it was fought with nuclear missiles in space
>>214077972>I accepted it as a challenge. Okay, I told the writers, I’m here to execute Roddenberry’s vision of the future, not mine. Let’s stop fighting what we can’t change. These are his rules. How do we do this story without breaking those rules?>A day later, I asked for another meeting with Gene and Rick. And here’s how I re-pitched the story:>“When the boy’s mother dies, he doesn’t grieve. He acts like he’s been taught to act — to accept death as a part of life. He buries whatever pain he may be feeling under this Twenty-Fourth Century layer of advanced civilization. The alien race responsible for the accidental death of his mother tries to correct their error by providing a replacement version of her. The boy wants to believe his mother isn’t dead, but our Captain knows she isn’t real and must convince the boy to reject the illusion. In order to do so, the boy must cut through everything he’s been taught about death and get to his true emotions. He must learn to grieve.”>The new approach respected Roddenberry’s rules and by doing so, became a more complex story. He gave his blessing. And I began to learn how Roddenberry’s Box forced us as writers to come up with new and interesting ways to tell stories instead of falling back into easier, familiar devices.>The rules of behavior in Roddenberry’s universe have filled books. There are more books dedicated to the personal histories of Star Trek characters as well as detailed cultural histories of the alien races of the Twenty-Fourth Century. And even more books written about Star Trek’s science and technology. Gene and his colleagues over the years have created a tapestry that is not easy for new writers to penetrate.
More from Michael Pillar>When testing was done on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the results told us that audiences were unhappy that the characters on board the space station didn’t always get along. And they complained that the “station doesn’t go anywhere.” In other words, they were asking for more of Star Trek: The Next Generation. We made a few adjustments to Deep Space Nine, but the real impact of that research was on the creation of Star Trek: Voyager. It was decided early on that it would be a ship-based show and there were to be no serious conflicts between the characters because that’s what the fans wanted.>There was a writers’ rebellion of sorts on my last year as head writer at Star Trek, four years after Roddenberry’s death. Some of the writers at Voyager went to Rick to say they wouldn’t return if I came back. It was nothing personal, Rick told me. We were all friends. But my rules were holding them back. My creative demands were suffocating them. They wanted to be free to do the things I wouldn’t let them do as writers.>I had completed a cycle. Somehow, I’d become the alien replacement for Roddenberry. It had become Piller’s Box.
>>214077972>Feddies are super atheists who don't give a fuck if their family diesWill we ever see a pervert autist like Gene again?
>>214077753now that you point it out, yes. I always just assumed the turbolift itself was offset.This is truly unsettling
>>214078078lol that that first paragraph is damningalso his rules tanked insurrection so bad it got sent back for ground-up rewrites multiple times
>>214077972and now we have cartoon episodes, musical episodes, fake documentary episodes, and puppet episodes
>>214078259What hindered Voyager, Enterprise and the TNG movies were studio interference by the company that took over the franchise. TNG and DS9 were both insulated from an overbearing studio because of a) different owners and b) syndication meaning they were hamstrung by a network.
>>214078259Yeah, the original "Heart of Darkness" inspired script for Insurrection wasn't very good at all. It was like a retread of TUC with a bit of TWOK thrown in.
>>214078318basically some Academy friend of Picard's has gone rogue and found a fountain of youth planetand he's been doing terrorist attacks against Romulansand the Romulans are pissed so they tag along with the Enterprise to find this guybut first they have a formal dinner where they discuss Shakespeare- yeah
>>214078318The worst part was the character regressions, which didn't entirely get removed since one of Piller's fixations was "the people love mid series TNG, let's just rewind everything to that"The dude basically had to have basic character stuff explained to him by the actors
>>214078451Sounds like The Wounded but with Romulans
>>214078513yeah like Data's emotion chip which was a major plot point in the previous two movies is written off
>>214078513what regression? the entire crew are selfish pricks throughout the entirety of TNG. want a promotion? get the fuck off enterprisw ASAP.
>>214078565datas emotion chip was a mistake>im going to remove it at the first sign of trouble>first sign of trouble>not removed>enterprise destroyedfuck data
>>214078543Pretty much yeah. Not that the final product as delivered was any good either but the original spec scripts kind of meandered
>>214077022It was considered a racist episode albeit not to extent it is today in the 90's as well. Only reason its being brought up these days is mainly clickbait.The writer who was behind this episode also went on to make that Mongolian episode in SG-1 that everyone bleached their eyes out when they saw it.
>>214078565>yeah like Data's emotion chip which was a major plot point in the previous two movies is written offSo what you're saying is that Piller was smart.
>>214078673>everyone bleached their eyes outSam was hot as fuck in that dress though.
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>>214078565It made him horny all the time, he had to turn it off because he kept raping
>>214078576it was all trope'y junk like worf feeling like he's dishonored for being defeated by the dick swinging romulan spec ops villain, and a whole arc of the crew learning to be a family or some shitstewart's letter to them dropping a hard veto on the script had like two pages devoted to tearing it apart, one of his major sticking points was basically "these are stories we told in the tv show, and we told them better there"
and then you remember most fans hate the tng movies because they aren't like the tv show
>>214066169Trekpu did nothing wrong.
Meet Geordi LaForge
Another interesting read is the draft script for First Contact. Picard and Riker swap roles; Riker stays on the ship while Picard is stuck on Earth in the past. His whole revenge thing against the Borg is not even a factor.
>>214078996I know the entire point of first drafts is to just get ideas onto page knowing problems will be smoothed out later but... that's up there among most bizarre writing choices possible
>>214078996>>214078804>these are stories we told in the tv show>give me a fucking tommy gun and a dune buggygoddamnit patrick stewart
>>214063923You have no taste
Someone bake new
>>214079588we got some time
>>214079597THERE'S NO TIME!NOT ENOUGH TIME!!!!!!
>>214078218Meh that's what inertial dampers are for (I assume)
>>214079811
>SNW season 3 stuck in LD plotsthe amount of times I've just been uttering "ugh" while watching these episodes is just way too high. The writers are just terrible people throwing garbage out to fill screentime. I feel so bad for these amazing actors.
>>214062316Is Vulcan cock circumcised? Asking for a friend?
>>214068642Cristina Chong's good looks and skill is literally the only thing that's keeping me around in s3.
>>214080283>people thought STD and Prickard were too edgy let's course correct to Marvel tier instead
