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I wonder what shitty horror movies we'll get
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How come mega corporations can't bribe anyone to change law so it won't affect their franchises?
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>>214163329
They do look up the Mickey Mouse Protection Act
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If it actually happened it would be a good thing, imagine talented artists and writers being able to sell their version of batman or mickey mouse to any publisher (or having them self-publish).
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>>214163056
Has anyone even done anything interesting with the original Mickey Mouse now that it's public domain?
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Only good things could come from writers not approved by DC getting their hands on these characters
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>>214163432
interesting? no
anything? yes
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>>214163056
none of the iconic villains will be until many more years.
also for Superman it will be the obscure original version pre-Captain Marvel-back-rip-off that missed half of the modern powers and didn't even fly but only jumped like John Carter of Mars.
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>>214163056
I think the public domain will only be valid for the original depictions. Like how for Micky it was only the steamboat willy version. Change anything on their uniform and DC will sue
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>>214163570
>>214163576
Those are the most kino versions though, Max Fleischer Superman and Batman who kills criminals
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>>214163576
You can't include anything from a later characterisation that isn't in the public domain yet either.

So like with Superman you won't be able to have him be from Krypton or fly. Batman can't have Alfred, and I could be wrong but I think Gotham wasn't named for the first year or two either.
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>>214163619
You can keep Krypton since it was mentioned in his first appearance but you won't be able to use any Krypton lore or characters invented later
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>>214163570
Most of Batman's iconic villains show up early, actually. Also Lex Luthor.
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>>214163400
Talented artists and writers make original things.
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>>214163056

>Pink Gloves

what were they thinking?
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>>214163707
All originality evolves from imitation
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>>214163400
For every artist talented enough to actually do something interesting with the characters, there's a million grifters drooling for the chance to create slop for a quick buck.
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>>214163662
>keep Krypton since it was mentioned in his first appearance
Maybe I'm thinking of Kryptonite, then.

I know there's something important that came from the radio show first and it was a few years into his existence.
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>>214163698
But even then you can only use that iteration of the characters. No modern re-designs.
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>>214163056
In 2034 and 2035. It's only browns who make this easy mistake but you morons do it all the time.
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Public domain is primarily intended to ensure free reproduction and universal accessibility of published works so that you don't have companies and estates hoarding copyrights decades after the original creators died. Creating new derivative works from public domain material was always an implicit part of the deal but it wasn't really the main thing people thought of when they thought of public domain until very recently. Now it's completely flipped. It goes to show how much the internet and remix culture has changed the way we conceptualize information.
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>>214163698
IIRC no major Superman or Batman villains that would have any staying power showed up in 1938-1939 which the initial public domain law would cover. Lex Luthor and the Joker didn't debut until 1940.
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>>214163875
well of course duh. nowadays nothing is preventing you form downloading a scan of the very first Superman comic for free. so the only real impact of public domain is allowing derivative work.
just another symptom of how obsolete copyright law is.
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>>214163432
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>>214163329
They did, but apparently there's a limit on how outlandish you can get with it.
Besides, it's not Superman going public domain. It's the original version of Superman - the one that couldn't even fly. For things like kryptonite you've got to wait more.
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>>214163329
disney has been doing that for years
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>>214163329
For some reason Disney thought it was more important to try to force the government to go along with children getting injected with hormones and having their genitals mutilated instead of trying to get copyright extended again. In the end, they lost that battle, so they gave up what was likely a slam dunk for extending protection on Mickey Mouse for another twenty years and got nothing in return.
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>>214163950
>interesting
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>>214163432
I think there is some indie FPS game being made about Mickey being an old timey detective gunning down gangsters. Other than that its all horror slop.
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>>214163856
nobody under the age of 30 knows how to speak or write english properly. I've been seeing "is" being used for plural instead of "are" more and more over the past ten years. it's so ubiquitous now that when I try to correct people on it they don't even realize what they've done wrong.
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>>214163777
And now they have LLMs backing them with a firehose of slop.
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>>214163056
For Batman you could have a slasher film where he's a serial killer who imagines he's a hero cleaning up the streets. Since he's rich he even has more creative ways of murdering people. Like an American Psycho version of Batman.
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>>214163056
50 year old Cavill finally getting a sequel
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>>214163707
If you actually cared to learn a little about the western art tradition you might look like less of a midwit next time you open your retarded mouth.
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>>214163707
Neither superman, mickey mouse nor batman are really original so it's fine to make porn about them
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Story follows a random street criminal being stalked by Batman in a horror like scenario.
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>>214163432
What is there even to make about Mickey? He’s a non character, the only thing of value about the old cartoons is the animation, anyone doing hand drawn animation will probably do their own shit and not bother with fucking Mickey.
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>>214164009
It's
>interesting
that it keeps happening...?
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>>214163329
They have before.
But now they aren't bothering because with trademark law, unless it's parody (like a shitty horror film) you can't actually sell a book called "Popeye" "Mickey Mouse" or, come 2035, "Batman" because those are trademarks owned by a corporation.

And, because of American court-precedent, while you can use a public domain character in a story, you cannot use any element which was added to said character later in a still-copyrighted work.
For example the Conan Doyle estate successfully sued people publishing original Sherlock Holmes stories because their Sherlock Holmes was depicted as being nice and considerate. An element only added in later (then still copyrighted) Sherlock Holmes books.
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>>214164019
We could get gunkino, because super early Batman packed heat
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>>214163432
Erik Larsen immediately inserted Mickey as a shameless rapist in his Savage Dragon comic. I don't know if it's interesting bit it's slightly amusing. It's not like the comic has any real merit, it has been little more than a soapbox for Larsen's politics and fetishes for years now.
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>>214163329

they have. and they have until recently had major success pushing back public domain way back until now. most people have felt its been pushed back long enough
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>>214163432
Nope, we got that 1 horror game that had a controversy because the title sounded too Neo-nazish
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>>214164511
Savage Dragon is so interesting to me because absolutely no one reads it but it's been going on for so long because the creator is a major name for Image in their administrative side. Absolutely no one reads it, and the whole plot from what I gather is boomer left wing political jabs and blacked fetishism. But no one reads it, so no one knows about it lol
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>>214163570
Joker,Hugo Strange and Catwoman appear in the 1st year.
But instead of doing something creatively bankrupt like recreating old Batman comics, do something original, Batman vs. the Shadow, Batman vs. the mob from Dick Tracy, Batman vs . Fu Manchu, with PD the options are really endless, Superman vs Stardust you can do anything, you're not stuck to a straight adaptation.
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>>214163329
They did, decades ago. This is the result. And it worked. Public domain takes so long now that it is when something enters it, it is irrelevant.
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>>214163570
Batman had some cool villains from his first year
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>have to wait a century
>even then you can only use the earliest, most irrelevant version of the character
Corpos won this battle long ago. Public domain means literally fucking nothing.
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>>214165694
>Disney builds an entire empire off the public domain
>Proceeds to restrict the PM and fuck it over for everyone else
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>>214164015
Yeah, here's the game https://store.steampowered.com/app/2416450/MOUSE_PI_For_Hire/
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>>214164015
>>214165799
This isn't an actual "Mickey Mouse" game though. It's just a game with cartoon mice in it.
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>>214164511
>it has been little more than a soapbox for Larsen's politics and fetishes for years now.
Always was
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>>214165783
Didn't they release Tarzan on the day the copyright expired? Or was that Peter Pan I'm thinking of?



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