>Disney excs we're surprised that Indiana Jones 5 failed and male zoomers didn't see it at masses >They thought the new "willow" movie would make it with the younger audiences>Cancell most of their teen-animated shows since they thought "20s something people didn't watch cartoons"Yo' how ald are theses nibbas, literally all this article is boomer thinking.
>>214184576They're not that retarded, it's a humiliation ritual.
>>214184576old*
>>214184626>it's a humiliation ritual.To who, nobody saw that shit.
>>214184576Why do they expect the people in charge who went out of their way to shun these audiences to be able to recapture them? Why does no one higher up get fired anymore?
>>214184661>Why does no one higher up get fired anymore?I think most investors are also clueless boomers too
>>214184576Explain to me why they don’t just make a good Star Wars film? Did they kill the brand?
everyone decide right now, are we going to give disney a chance and see this? will it be a soul successor to Drive?
>>214184655A slap in the face for anyone dumb enough to watch and a generalized demoralization tactic for everyone else. I think they are shooting for making you upset that it exists since they know we won't watch it. Like the fake positivity floating out there for hyper-woke Foundation. AppleTV is distilled low-key Satanism.
>>214184576>Make movie and show to appeal to zoomer males>Hire creatives with the statedz explicit purpose of alienating male audiencesSo this is the power of a Harvard MBA.
I’ll give them one more chance with Tron Ares because I’m a big Tron fag, but if it sucks im out for life.
>>214184746Tbh i feel most of theses people are not that smart to make something like that, i feel it after see some interviews about warner treatment of the DCEU, most people are clueless retards and investors that didn't even know who shit since they are all 90 years old.
>>214184576Why didn't 20 somethings watch Disney cartoons?
>>214184576same thing happens in the videogame industry. boomer execs are largely out of touch
>>214184576They shouldn't just be making movies they think will appeal to young men, they should actively stop making movies that shit on young men. Disney is now associated with faggotry, cuckoldry and humiliation rituals, it's gonna take a lot of effort to win back trust.
>>214184661For some reason boards of directors, CEOs and Executives are paid large sums of money to direct the business and assume responsibility. In a system where they outsource all business direction and the lowest organisation member assumes the weight of all responsibility for the smallest actions and with no control, while those with the most control assume no responsibility for any action no matter how consequential. This is the power of large investmemt funds filled with infinite, tax payer insured, boomer retirement money being the largest shareholders. If these funds want to maintain access to lucrative, government backed funds, while doing nothing to earn it, it's imperative they force the agendas their governmemt lackeys rely on to maintain power.It's an admirable grift. (((Everyone))) wins.
>>214184841Do americans makes games anymore or just live service and fornite, i didn't even recall the last big american release.GTA it's british so.
>>214184576Is Skibidi Toilet still popular? How about all that other retarded zoomer shit? Why doesn't Disney just shit out garbage zoomers actually consoom?
>>214184576It would be funny if Disney became Harley Davidson of entertainment industry by failing to appeal to younger audience. Imagine disney world/land filled exclusively with 50+yo Millennials onions pogging newest slop-attraction every time it comes out.
>>214184576>Disney excs we're surprised that Indiana Jones 5 failed and male zoomers didn't see it at massesOpening scene is Indiana Jones sitting in wifebeater on his bed, holding his divorce papers, his son died in Vietnam just to get away from him, and he was fired from academy.Anyone involved in this deserves woodchipper.
>>214184655>nobody saw that shit.>In line with recent Marvel releases, The Marvels’ exhibits a significant male skew, accounting for 68% of its opening weekend audience. Interestingly, this proportion is 3% higher than Captain Marvel, despite the expectation of its stronger female appeal due to its female-led cast in contrast to other Marvel titles, GOTG3 and Quantumania.
>>214184923good morning sir
>>214184923GTA is also live service trash
>>214184720absolutely not lmfao. post-First Man I've not seen a single thing Goose is in that's redeemable
>>214184777its gonna be completely woke and ai made anon
>>214184655"You're not welcome here anymore" has been the entertainment industry's message for the last decade or so.
>>214184661The high ups know what happens when you say no to activist employees, they have a million ways to get rid of you. They're basically hostage kings, they cannot refuse progressive ideals without getting metoo'd or accused of racism/bigotry.
>>214184720>post Episode 9I have literally no interest. The Star Wars universe officially ends with RoTJ
It's both the boomer foolishness and idiocy and the intentional jewish sabotage that makes Disney and companies like them so fucking retarded
>>214186028Maybe they should stop raping people, and run their business.
>>214184655That's the point, they're telling you they're willing to waste money just to shit on something people care about.
>>214186118Okay, so we don't watch it and they lose money.Wow, I'm feeling really humiliated.>a generation of white boys stop watching Star Wars, and start getting into online anti-semitism insteadWoooow, I'm like so humiliated, lmao!!Oh please stop this, Disney!
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>>214184626>They're not that retarded,"Vaping is cool with the kids lets havr a scene of spiderman vaping"
>>214186178yeah idk if this whole thing makes sense, also most of the nich fanbase of star wars (merch, books, tv series) move on to new franchices (Warhammer or Gundam) so i don't know if this makes sense.
leaked powerpoint slide
>>214186178I don't feel humiliated either but it sure is demoralizing to see people here unironically praise Disney Wars shows.
>>214186178>they lose moneyso no taxes
>>214184655That's the issue, they're not lining up to be humiliated like millennial and gen x men did.
>>214186346>it sure is demoralizing to see people here unironically praise Disney Wars showsBut why? Progtard manchildren are their only remaining male fans, and who really gives a fuck what a bunch of cucks think?
>>214184951Skibidi Toilet is gen alpha shit, not zoomer shit.
>>214186346Why would you be demoralized by literal shills?
>>214184576Just don’t have any women or men who identify as progressives involved in the creative process.
>>214184576At this point, the Disney brand is so fucking toxic that every Star Wars project (or any Lucasfilm project honestly) they produce is virtually 100% guaranteed to fail by mere association. They'd be better off just selling the IPs to one of their competitors (maybe with the caveat that Disney Parks can continue operating Star Wars-themed attractions) to recoup losses from the sale and pay off their debts.I'd go as far to argue that Disney is never getting their male audience back (it was never really all that big to begin, except for things like Pirates the Caribbean) and they may as well not even bother trying.
>>214184661A lot of things were greenlit during peak woke during the BLM george floyd riots. Execs and boomers were gaslit by social activists into thinking that being anti white is HUGE and the whole world worships blacks which is why BLM had an international protest going on. Now as Trump explicitly talked about how DEI and wokeness is dangerous and is using all his powers to destroy everything who tried using it, that era is over and corporations are realizing there's really no money in it anymore.
>>214186957The rumors of them buying Tsuburaya make me wonder if that would be their hail Mary
>>214186361Someone's starting to see just how brilliant this whole bullshit really is
>>214184661>Why does no one higher up get fired anymore?Iger has supposedly been protected from numerous ouster attempts by Walt Disney's daughter who he's on very good terms with. Iger in turn protects Kathleen Kennedy and her ilk, presumably to protect his own reputation (also if he fired her, she could turn around and sue Disney for wrongful termination, and this would cost hundreds of millions of dollars in legal fees even if it was thrown out of court).
>>214187061Yeah, I think it's safe to assume that Disney's current finances are far worse than they're letting on (they've been caught lying to investors on multiple occasions, including one substantial enough to warrant an ongoing lawsuit about misleading them about Disney+ revenues). I wouldn't be surprised if Iger's recent and planned acquisitions are an attempt at one last "big win" to stave off bankruptcy. It's even worse when you realize that they've spent the last few years pissing off Trump and his administration is ideologically inclined to simply let the company fail rather than bailing them out.
>>Imagine a Star Wars movie where the main character is an ordinary girl who gets snatched away from her friends by a mysterious and brooding Dark Side user who lives in a spooky castle. Her friends are all female Jedi and embark on a quest to save her from her captor. Meanwhile, our leading lady grows closer with this mysterious villain, discovering that he's actually not so bad. >>The male love interest/"villain" would be like a Sith Dracula, specifically the novel version where he went to a magic academy run by Satan. But he could be like Edward from Twilight or Alucard from Hellsing where he's SPOOKY and VIOLENT but very caring on the inside. His fight scenes are all just anime shit set to gothic instrumentals or something.>>the girls have to go through a bunch of lesser Sith Lords, corrupt institutional figures, pirates, slavers, mobsters, monsters made by dark side magic, etc>>meanwhile their friend is busy going through some beauty and the beast shit with her new boyfriend who's belting out some song that sounds like Frollo's from Notre DameAnon posted this in an earlier thread all credit to anon.
>>214187509gay and boring
>>214184576Disney never appealed to boys and young men. It was always corny sappy stuff even in like the 90s. Why do you think CN and Nickelodeon were things? Disney becoming super feminine was inevitable. They don't need to target boys, they just need new princesses that are either white or Latina.
>>214186957The point of buying Marvel and SW was they they had a built in male audience, but they fucked that up by being Disney, and insisting on turning boy properties into quasi disney princess slop, where we get to experience the same story of a young girl finding herself, over and over again. And if it's not that, it's just middle aged women yelling directly at the audience for being men.It really is baffling how dumb they have been. What did they think they were achieving?
>>214184839It really shows you how evil anons are that this is considered rage bait
^bait
>>214187586It's kind of uncouth to blame every white person on Earth for slavery, and tell them they don't have a real history or identity, beyond just being evil bastards.If you abused any other group like this, it would rightly be seen as abuse, and not be tolerated.>Oh, black people have problems? Well the Zulu empire existed, so fuck you chudHow is that not a weird and anti-social way to behave?
>>214184576>splashy global adventures and treasure huntsI bet you could pitch the Pirates of the Caribbean script to them today and they would reject it. They have no idea what they’re doing anymoreinb4 they would reject it because the movie already exists you know what I mean imaginary cunt I made up in my head and got mad at fuck you
>>214187586It really shows how leftism is iredeemable evil that doesn't belong into western world.Luckily young men already realized its insidious nature.
>>214184661Iger stacked the board of directors with people loyal to him
>>214184576Why did they think male zoomers wanted to see 35 year old Fleabag slutting around and girl bossing Indy? If they cast a young and hot woman for the role, it might have changed things, but she would have had to have been a legit 10/10 with tits and ass, no daisy Ridley flat board bullshit
>>214187061>Buying Tsuburaya when they already own Marvel
WHY DIDN'T YOU SEE HER MOVIE, CHUDS?!?
>>214184576Why would I want to see a geriatric Indiana Jones movie after Indiana Jones and the Kindom of the Crystal Skull?
>>214184626>humiliation ritualWorst meme in a long time. The language of 4chan has completely disintegrated, and the worst part is you have a bunch of meme-spoutin youngins who try way too hard to fit in with this shit.>To meet the ideological requirements of Ingsoc (English Socialism) in Oceania, the Party created Newspeak, which is a controlled language of simplified grammar and limited vocabulary designed to limit a person's ability for critical thinking
>>214187866>newspeak I'm glad someone else sees it.
>>214187061How? They bought Marvel and Lucasfilm to get the Gen Z male audience and now they're complaining that they're not getting the Gen Z male audience... because they themselves fucked the franchises they bought.
>>214187866>>214187891And you see this specifically and especially in 4chan which was always shrouded in memespeak and not in the broader Current Year speak about muh toxic objectifying gaslighting.Hmmmmmm.
>>214187897You have to think of it from the perspective of non creative beancounters in the marketing department. Over the last 10 years you've seen advertising and marketing increasingly going after marginal groups because they've already hit peak saturation with the primary audience. So how do you grow the audience? You try to pander to other groups, and they just assume the old audience will stick around because they're used to slavish fanboy loyalty to franchises, not realizing star wars was 6 movies and some EU stuff no one paid attention to outside of video games. Indiana jones was three movies everyone likes, and a fourth movie and tv series that got memory holed. Nothing really has been added to either of those things in decades, and when it is, even the most gullible audience member recognizes that its not made because someone liked the franchise, or wanted to tell more stories in it, they're making the movies and sequels and prequels and spin off streaming shows because they have executives demanding product. Now they're realizing the old audience isn't willing to stick around for bad movies, and they're assuming the problem is who they were pandering to, and not the fact that they're making shitty corporate franchise slop no one asked for.
willow was great I think it failed because it barely had marketing
>>214188005I'm talking about 4chan. Your desire for me to address unrelated topics in the same verbiage is in fact, newspeak. Are you proud that your argument is essentially "no u" with more words?
>violent crime is caused by socioeconomic factors>we should apply these factors to the largest smartest strongest demographic for multiple generations
We're past a decade of this shit now across film, tv, games, literature, etc. It's clear women and their male servants have absolutely no intention of handing back what were once male entertainment products. And anything new aimed at that male audience will first & foremost be made palatable to women with everything else a distant second. Not trying to be a doomer or whatever but that's the reality. Just continue replacing them with japanese, chinese, korean, etc media wherever possible.
>>214187866O contraire, the term "humiliation ritual" is excellent. It really cuts through the shit and shines a light on things that people in power love to do to us.All of that HR shit. It *is* a humiliation ritual, and they do it on purpose.
>>214187703based
That Stonetoss comic about the black little mermaid was projection. White guys want white guys as characters, women should only be used as sex appeal. This is the only media they will accept. Just give it to them and you can spend your money on whatever libtarded cause you want.
>>214186028You are absolutely correct. HR is woke and hires woke so the employees rule so you produce and release what they want.
>>214187542Dr. Syn, Alis the Scarecrow. Disney 1963
>>214188310I mean, I'm perfectly happy to identify with anyone who reads as human and intelligent, which is why Japanese media generally works fine.That's also why people liked Will Smith. He knew how to "present".No one wants to see someone who looks like they're about to mug you, or lecture you on privilege on their TV screen. That's not fun. That's hard work. That's the stuff that gets your blood pressure up just a little bit.
>>214187061Whatever they buy they're gonna turn into star wars and marvel again, that's all they know how to do.
>>214187821Should have stuck with the original ending where she literally erased him from history and took over.
>>214184576What did they honestly think would happen?
>>214187866>>214188257It's a shorthand for antagonist progressive media that scolds you for existing. There's really no better way to put it.
>>214188310>That Stonetoss comic about the black little mermaid was projection.Huh?That comic was about men vs women, not race.Hence why the boys going crazy for DBZ were of all races.
meanwhile 8 million youtube views in 24 hourshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYI-WG_HFV8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MePL_vS-G9Q
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>>214184576>Hollywood creativesthat is literally the problem
>>214190174JJK has a majority female fanbase though.
>>214190888there isnt a shonen anime in the world with a majority female audience
>>214191242it's signaling that's their next target, they're coming for shonen
hilarious. I love watching all the industries and corporate nepobabies that hate me dying a slow, humiliating death, after their sheer fucking hubris allowed them to destroy everything that was given to them by better men
>>214190888Not really, even in Japan it's like 52% male.
>>214191364But I thought "shonen" meant "little boys".
>>214191639You mean like how boy scouts was for boys but now has girls?
>>214184839funny captions but what was the original about?
>>214192359Girls can join boy scouts because they dropped the Boy. A boy can join Girl Scouts if he says hes a girl.
>>214186178Nice try.
>>214184951>Skibidi Toilet>ZoomerThis is like saying Darlifra was a Millennial anime
Disney let committees create media for liberal college graduates, and are surprised that people don't want to turn up for a civics lecture disguised as a movie. They're just going to create the same boring shit over and over until it dies. Even the parks, their one constant, are starting to lose attendance.
>>214186346>it sure is demoralizing to see people here unironically praise Disney Wars shows.These people aren't Zoomers, they're Millennials.
>>214184576They tried to make an indy movie where he passes down the hat to a younger man (his son) and audiences rejected it. So they went with another approach, a younger woman, and audiences still rejected it. Just let that tired old franchise die. Times have changed and people have moved on.
>>214184576Go woke, go broke.It’s as simple as that.Disney either goes back to its white roots or they can go bankrupt.
>>214184655Old methods of control die hard. It's why they all overlooked the early days of the internet while pushing ever more obvious propaganda on TV and radio. They can't square the circle anymore. Their replacement citizens are protesting Jewish Power. That wasn't in the script of IRL Brainwashing Program. They don't want traditional men back. They want to know how to trick them and not being non traditional but they have been exposed as propagandists posing as entertainers.
I kinda want to take Disney up on their offer, but I don't have but a few connections in the industry. Still more than most, tho.
>>214187866The term comes from /x/ and predates the "meme" whose purpose was to discredit it as something silly by years. You're either a youngin trying to fit in yourself or some failed normalfag who has never browsed /x/ before.
>>214187509Is this supposed to be for boys?
>>214189064Insightful post
>>214189091It's not just that. It's anything that seemingly just exists to humiliate people who are lower than you on the social totem pole. So much of society is made up of humiliation rituals, when you really start to see it. Fashion is a humiliation ritual. Job interviews are a humiliation ritual. Educated people redefining words, and then using the whole thing as an excuse to sneer at less educated people is a humiliation ritual.>oh this dummy thinks violence means violence, as opposed to micro aggressions, which actually just means being passingly rude, how quaint and backwards of them...>oh this dummy thinks misogyny means actually hating women, as opposed to whatever we say it means in the moment. How deliciously amusing...All of it just faggy little power games, designed to make you look silly, somewhere, somehow.
>>214193917It's meant to be a project that's mainly for girls or women (depending on how mature they want it to be). If they had a Star Wars where the audience was mostly women, but still did numbers at the box office, they'd do more like that. This would free up space for the boy or man Star Wars to lean more in the nerdy boy or man direction. The whole point of having a franchise like this is that they can put out projects that lean wildly in various directions, they're wasting it by trying to have everything appeal to everyone and getting butthurt when it doesn't work on everyone. It worked for a while because the nerd audience would show up for anything, but they stop showing up when it's no longer clearly a nerdy franchise. Not to mention the issues in writing and directing these things.
>>214193598The real kicker is that for them to succeed and learn the error of their ways, and get the people who've broken free of their control back under their control, they'd have to behave in ways they're incapable of. Supporting traditional values, NOT being subversive, not hating white people and men. But they can't do that. A leopard doesn't change its spots. They can't do what they'd have to do to win because it's just not in their nature to behave that way.So they're doomed.
>>214187866>>214193753Humiliation rituals are just literal, actual things. The "positive" way to frame them are "signs of respect." Like getting on your knees, and kissing the ring of someone. But that's just a genuine humiliation ritual. You're showing your submission to another figure.
>>214184576Didn't the new Superman do the same thing - cast a Millennial cunt who talks down to the beloved hero the entire time?
>>214187755No. Not even then. The blatant disrespect she shows for the male hero is just unacceptable regardless of her looks.
>>214194590You mean Lex Luthor?
>>214184576These people are fucking morons who don't understand that if you just give guys cool shit that isn't retarded or subversive you'll make a mint.Take nu-Tron for example. The average Zoomer guy thinks of Tron in terms of picrel (sadly the vast majority of Zoomies have not watched the megakino original, which I love dearly and brutally mogs): they think of hot girls with high contrast hair and skin tight clothes (they're also almost exclusively White and East Asian btw), guys on light trail motorcycles fighting each other in a dystopian, dark computer world with lots of blues and oranges, and a lone, young gigachad trying to fight the computer world to both get out and stop them from hatching their plot to take over the real world.And what does Disney do with this really easy formula? They do the retarded "X in the real world" thing that completely disregards the whole point of Tron being set in a computer, they cast a fucking middle aged Jared Leto that looks like a bearded tranny in the lead, cast a bunch of ugly mutts in the supporting roles instead of hot White/Asian girls and andros, and bring back Jeff Bridges for nostalgia points even though Zoomers never gave a shit about Bridges anyway given they never watched the original and he was not anywhere their favorite part of Legacy.>"20s something people didn't watch cartoons"That's the funniest thing of all from this article. Be it Browns loving shonenslop or Whites/Asians getting into the edgier, artier stuff from the 80s and 90s, anime is undeniably the /film/ movement of choice for Zoomies and has been at least since COVID. Hell, I'd say the biggest reason why Zoomies love Kosinski movies be it F1, Tron, Oblibion, or Top Gun is because they look and feel like well-done irl anime adaptations.
>>214194687>pic
>>214184576>buy up all the franchises popular with nerds and have a primarily male audience>gender and race swap almost everyone, cut down legacy characters to prop up the new characters because you're a hack fraud who can't write>double, triple, and quadruple down anytime its called out>blame all criticism of the story on bigotry, even denying it when people who you cant usually call bigots also raise the same concerns>the franchises fall off because A: normies are burned out B: the hardcore nerd fans have been shooed away to appease normies and women>question what you can do to get back to billion dollar movies, but are unwilling to gut all of the gay shit that put you in this position>>214184720I gave them another chance with the mandoverse, and now that its gone to shit and there is 0 chance theyre gonna retcon the godawful sequels, I'm done. >theyre finally putting an attractive white man in as the lead10 years too latenobody is gonna see this, and nobody will see the mandalorian movie either.
>>214194355It really is crazy the Biblically doomed situation the Enemy is in. Everything /comfy/ and providing creature comforts since the 50s is because of White men. They hate White men and don't like that White men DEMAND low taxes, control over women, and justice for the rich and elected. Their solution is to replace White men with monkey mud men as a slave caste but, shocker, they are incapable of keeping the aforementioned creature comforts even REMOTELY possible.
>>214184720unless it's an extreme closeup of park rey's bleached asshole tooting the cantina song for 90 minutes no I will not
>>214194687I just watched the beginning of an old Disney World of Color for Dr. Syn, Alis the Scarecrow. Walt himself said in this intro he always loved stories of a hero, against odds, that helped the people, especially if it was a real life historical figure. Walt would be aghast at what Disney became.
Disgusting human race. It needs to go extinct. Filthy parasites.
>>214190174I hate normal fag anime. It's all fucking gay.
we have been screaming for decades now for an animated Thrawn Trilogy movie and a Dark Empire Duology. Why do they constantly pretend we dont tell them exactly what we want?
>>214188310>That Stonetoss comic about the black little mermaid was projection. White guys want white guys as charactersThe sheer amount of mexicans who idolize Goku and now to a slightly lesser extent Jiren is proof that stonetoss was spot on. If you want a vidya example, Sgt. Johnson. We don't care what they look like, so long as they're the coolest guy in the room.
>>214194950why dump millions into that and give the fans what they want when they can spend thousands into shit live action tv shows that ape only the worst parts of those and make them the entire basis for these stories.
>>214191242>there isnt a shonen anime in the world with a majority female audienceBoku no seven quirks, JJK, prince of tennis and if you want to count it Gintama are all past the 60% women mark.
>>214185144At least it did have the scene where roman soldiers see an airplane from the future filled with time travelers, and without having any idea what it is instinctively know that its full of germans so has to be brought down.
>>214184576They pozzed everything everywhere. They thought you would watch it since you don't have non pozzed choice. They didn't think you would stop watching altogether
>>214194640No the guy from the jump scare meme where he takes off his storm trooper helmet in the desert
>>214186055>intentional jewish sabotageThis is not a thing.
>>214184720You can be sure it will be even more pozzed than their other movies since this one is advertising a male pilot lead.
>>214195157Ignore this - mistaken post by me
>>214194687I watched the original Tron and it was complete and utter dogshit. Legacy and Uprising were kino
>>214187542Aladdin and lion king debunk this.
>>214194788You’re correct.
>>214195229It was always "safe" stuff you could watch with your parents, Anon. There was a huge market for "edgy" cartoons for boys and still is.
>>214195074>babymetal>theyre all in their 20s now
>>214184720>It's another adult male with kid sidekick storyThis has been done to death in Disney Star Wars at this point.
>>214191408Getting paid millions and failing upwards is dying?
>>214187586Why would I pay money to watch a product that is clearly aimed at 200 Karens living in California?
>>214194590No, you're misinformed.
>>214195288>1997>1999>2003What the fuck?
For some reason execs just assumed that the existing base would always be there and the correct move would be to try and attract the people who aren't interested in it.Really don't know what drives this, it seems really common in a lot of businesses. A flaw in the modern capitalist system where short term profits are favored over long term stability?
>>214195371It’s because they assume fandoms are like religions, or at least they wish for them to be religions.
Disney wants more original (IE:cheap) home run level action franchise level IPs. Something they can own 100% and build from the ground up for max profit. Something along the line of National Treasure or Die Hard from back in the day. That shit isn't just sitting around on the shelf. Every studio wants their own new fresh hit franchise level IP product. Ohhh wow, what a revelation for Disney to be looking for it too vs just clutching on what they already own. This is in line with a GM telling a coach to go get him a draftable franchise level star QB.. Oh really? You want one of those too?
>>214195150LOL did that really happen?
>>214195224>it was complete and utter dogshitThink of it like an 80s version of Metropolis and it will become megakino>>214194867>Walt himself said in this intro he always loved stories of a hero, against odds, that helped the people, especially if it was a real life historical figure.For sure. Everything other than the fairy tales were usually musicals or adventure movies focusing on the tales and exploits of great men, real or fictional.
>>214184576Indiana Jones was doomed the moment they couldn't get Bradley Cooper or Chris Pratt to take over the role The plan always was to reboot Indy and have Pratt or Cooper take over the roll fil time since Ford is too old and too much of a douche to properly do promotion for it.But Pratt got offered Jurassic World and Cooper allegedly got threatened by Ford (who while he hates his Lucasfilms roles, lost nearly all of his fortune in the 2008 crash and knew his bestie Kathleen Kennedy would gladly overpay Ford to help him out) into not taking the role.
>>214195925>lost nearly all of his fortune in the 2008 crashwut
>>214195770https://youtu.be/Q3TNbaV9bOQ?si=0wlItfdnMDoQmurT
>>214184576They speak as if they haven't intentionally been making ridiculous decisions to dampen npcs minds.
>>214194307>The whole point of having a franchise like this is that they can put out projects that lean wildly in various directionsThat seems like a stupid idea. It would be like trying to make a Barbie show for the male audience focusing on Ken or something. Actually... they're probably already working on that aren't they...
>>214195925Indy wouldn't work these days anyway. It takes place almost 100 years ago at this point, unless they want to modernize it - which is basically what Uncharted is. With the globalization of the world, going to other countries has lost its sense of exoticism, and the notion of finding relics of other lost nations has has now been demonized.
>>214184626We read the sony leaks
>>214196242If there was a 'Barbie Cinematic Universe' that already had like a dozen films, or was putting out two a year, it would be reasonable to decide to aim one of them at the male audience.
>>214196283*taps le sign*
>>214196242>Actually... they're probably already working on that aren't they...They got angry Ken ended up resonating with audiences more than Barbie, if anything they're figuring out how to sideline him in the sequel. Female franchises never get retooled for men.
>>214196132>flies into an assholeDo they get off on this or something lol
>>214194815you could probably make this with AI
It doesn't matter how hard they cater to you, bros. The important thing is to stay home and watch Disney crumble.
>>214184626The leftist propaganda is more important than the art.
>>214195371
>>214187586The United States wasn't built by a couple million illiterate black people picking cotton in the South
>>214184576Disney is so rotted out that it's insane
>>214194815is park rey still a thing? i follow hapa rey, but havent heard anything recently about them. they're all new CMs now arent they?
>>214184626I prefer the term demoralization
>>214196417Culture has been diluted by multiculturalism and globalism.
>>214184576Wait a minute...
>>214184655>>214186118>>214186178They're just out to actively destroy shit white guys like. The sooner you accept this the sooner their retardation makes any sense.
>Give middle finger to men and call them incels and manchildren.>Help, men stopped watching the MCU and Star Wars.Why Hollywood is like this?
2008 Worldwide financial crash engineered by Jews.Put black man in the white house to distract liberals who don't care that the economy is collapsing, just as long as they got a HALF-BLACK man in the White House while if both of his parents were black he never would have got near. This also distracts conservative as they ignore the financial collapse and spend their time foaming at the mouth at Obmaa being president.2012 Occupy Wall Street movement happens.Then Gamergate where a whore named Zoe Quinn made a shitty videogame.Fucked a bunch of game Journalists for favorable coverage.Word gets out and causes uproar about favoritism in he game journo community.Jurnos circle the wagons and get their fellow journos to start spamming the narrative that the controversy isn't about ethic in gaming journalism but about white straight male gamers angry that a girl intruded on their turf.Mainstream (((media))) picks up on this and starts repeating this as they needed something to distract normies from the Occupy Wall Street movement and crimes of Wall Street, banks and corporations.Videogames and gaming in general is the biggest and most lucrative form of entertainment thus attacking it and its costumers is the best way to get attention as various grifters like Anita Sarkeesian start preaching about sexism in gaming while pretending to get threats to cultivate victimhood status and make money.Fellow narcissistic sociopaths jump in for attention, money and power.
>>214197963I can't imagine how delusional you have to be to think that men just spontaneously lost interest in sci-fi and comic books for no reason whatsoever. Whatever they think guys are into now, they're just gonna do the same thing to that and make it for girls (who don't even like either).
>>214195925I never knew about Cooper, but I remember Spielberg was still on board when it looked like he could get Chris Pratt and reboot it.
>>214184576>tl;drJust tell me when the next big movie is out and I'll be on the review sites bombing away. That's all I care about now. Disney had their chance. This is how it is.
They genuinely think it's all misogyny. At least Brie learned her lesson LMAO.
>>214198169such a victim she is huh
>>214187866This, newfaggots try so hard parroting memes and they can't get it right for shit
>>214198169>Tell white dudes not to watch black movies cause "it wasn't made for you">Sit still and smile when given the chance to say the same thing about your own moviesBravo Brie
>>214197984Fucking United Nations has Quinn and Sarkeesian crying about sexism in gaming when women around the world are being beaten, raped and killed on a daily basis.
>>214198602So at least 15 years of relentless attacks from the (((media))), feminists, blacks, gays, trannies and criminal organizations like the F.B.I. who have designated white straight males who play videogames and can't get laid as society's biggest threat, completely ignoring crime statistics that blacks commit the majority of crimes including rape and murder.According to the CDC almost half a million abortions are performed each year.(((Media))), feminists, blacks, gays, trannies want white straight males dead and try to incite theater violence when Joker was released because it was a movie that went against their narrative of white straight male privilege and disappointed that no one was killed and acccording to them it was only white straight male Incels that went to see it, kinda like according to (((them))) it was 60+ then 77 million white straight males that voted Trump into the White House, mainly out of spite for the attacks on white people and the working class in general when people were losing their jobs whiley they laughed "HAHA LEARN TO CODE!!!" the irony being that now those same cockroaches are losing their lobs to A.I. and can't get another one with their 4 year course on gender studies and why they despise the working clas because it comprises people who, you know, WORKFOR A LIVING which they can't understand because of their sense of self-entitlement.
>>214198627So being narcissisic sociopaths with the minds of children who never developed emotionally beyond grade school, SJW's i.e. mostly North American women who will NEVER take responsibility for anything.This includes making Donald Trump president twice as most people voted for him out of spite against you and it wasn't a "minority white straight males" as according to (((them))) when people complain it's always a small minority but when they fail this "small minority" is now an overwhelming omnipresent force to which they now cry that they're the minority and the victims after telling white straight males that they want them DEAD!.Finally, it's not a conspiracy to keep other groups out of movies, tv shows, videogames, comic books, board games etc....it's just economics that show the primary demographic of those things just happen to be white straight males.So roasties, blacks, gays, trannies have been told by the (((media))) that if they haven't got everything they wanted that they think they deserve without having to work for the things they desire, or that anything ever goes wrong it's NEVER their own fault but that of an omnipotent white straight male patriarchy that is oppressing them for being lazy and or/retarded and unable to or just not wanting to earn anything!Spend over a decade invading, infesting, taking away, ruining and/or destroying anything that white straight males care about.White straight males stop spending their money on the things they use to love that are now wrecked.
>>214198643(((Media))) starts to disingenuously wonder why white straight males are abandoning these I.P.'s and Franchises that they sustained for DECADES who were told were no longer for them and now used as a weapon so SJW's can manufacture artificial controversy by shoving women, blacks, gays, trannies into everything, not to entertain and/or make money but to insidiously make trash with deliberate malicious intent just so that they can have reasons to call white straight males names like Incels and Chuds, their substitute words for calling someone a virgin an/or ugly and shows that they're intellectually infants just throwing a tantrum for attention then obliterate anything they touch because their one and only goal is to make everyone as miserabele as they are and they will NEVER be happy because of the narcissistic sense of enttitlement that's always gnawing inside of them and why they're always angry and looking to take that anger out on white straight males as recompense for the imaginary oppression that only exists in their minds and the excuse they use for being complete and utterly worthless piece or shit that I hope live long enough to lose everything and everyone you ever cared about and die alone, unloved and forgotten in a cold, dark, empty room with nothing but regret, bitterness and self-loathing as your last thoughts before entering the eternal void where people like you belong while your ashes will be flushed down the nearest toilet because by then no one will care that you died, just as no one cares that you're alive now!!!FACT!!!
>>214184576When did willow get a new movie? I know about the abomination of a show but i thought that was it
>>214189091This.
They're all Jews, for what it's worth. You know how much Jews love and cherish White people and White culture.
>>214184839>(rapping)
>>214193335Because there was no reason to pass the torch directly. Just James Bond it and recast Ford. If you really need to, book end the first non-Ford movie as him talking about an event from his past to someone, then drop that pretense in subsequent films. Indiana Jones, as a concept, just works. The Nazis want occult artifacts so Indie has to go on a world spanning adventure to stop them. Throw in some action scenes and bam, easy repeatable slop. Like with Star Wars, Disney had an absolute layup and they flubbed it.
>>214184576To be fair zoomers aren't interested in any kind of art outside mumble rap and tiktok.
>>214187542>Disney never appealed to boys and young men.ZorroDavy CrockettFollow Me BoysTreasure Island20,000 Leagues Under The SeaOld YellerPlease watch any of these then go fuck yourself with a straight razor
>>214184576>Disney excs we're surprised that Indiana Jones 5 failed and male zoomers didn't see it at massesstarring an 80 year old as an "action star" in a franchise older than most millennials, whose last good film was before gen z was even born >They thought the new "willow" movie would make it with the younger audiencesa movie most people won't recognize, bastardized beyond recognition by the few people who do> Cancel most of their teen-animated shows since they thought "20s something people didn't watch cartoons"yeahhh, these people couldn't be more out-of-touch if they tried. they deserve all of this.
>>214184576>Disney excs we're surprised that Indiana Jones 5 failed and male zoomers didn't see it at massesZoomers don’t know who fucking Indiana Jones even is. Why would Zoomers care about some boomer character they have no nostalgia for?>They thought the new "willow" movie would make it with the younger audiencesWillow is even worse! Less people even saw Willow than Indiana Jones. And you expected Zoomers to give a shit about Willow of all things?!!!How is Disney this stupid?
>>214188208This anon speaks the truth
>>214184576>Cancell most of their teen-animated shows since they thought "20s something people didn't watch cartoons"Considering how popular Anime is, you'd figure Disney of all companies would go more experimental with animation as a medium rather than simple kiddie fare.
>>214195371>A flaw in the modern capitalist system where short term profits are favored over long term stability?That is because corporations are controlled by shareholders. Shareholders demand “PROFIT NOW. LINE MUST GO UP! EVERYTHING MUST BE GOING UP!” and don’t want to wait or have stability.You can blame Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. for that
>>214195371Execs take their consumers for granted and have no self-awareness.
>>214187866It comes from masonism. You sound like a redditor millenial soiboi
>>214200305There was a promo where ford was taking pictures with fans dressed up as Indy, and they were all men in their forties. No Gen Z or A kid gives a flying fuck about Indiana Jones.
>>214194950>an animated Thrawn Trilogy movie and a Dark Empire Duology.will normies recognize these two though? they are the biggest group disney's chasing
>>214196043A lot of celebrities went broke in 2008, especially those who were in bed with Bernie MaddoffFord didn't get in bed with Maddoff but has a lot of high risk investments that got nuked in the wake the 08 crash. It's the only reason he came back to do Episode 7 (KK paid him an overly generous salary and ordered Han be killed off because Ford was THAT pissy he has to crawl back to the role), which along with the advance he got on IJ5, helped stabilize his finances.
>>214201496Damn Kennedy sounds almost too nice, imagine doing all that for an ungrateful friend. He seems like a total fucking cunt. I didn't know that.
>>214188257>O contraireAu contraire, saar
>>214184576>Tron 3 was delayed for more than a decade because Nu Wars was supposed to be that Male IP in their gigantic catalogue of Princess Shit
>>214187373>including one substantial enough to warrant an ongoing lawsuit about misleading them about Disney+ revenues)Chapek was a finance guy and was removed without cause. The CFO cuntess alleging malfeasance on his part had to quit. Rumors have it they had FTX exposure.
>>214201496interesting
>>214195371As budgets skyrocket, so do bean counters. Bean counters are soulless retards who do not understand anything but "line go up".If you make a movie for 5 million dollars and it's a smash hit and makes 50 million dollars, you'd be much better off making that same movie for 5 billion dollars and making 50 billion dollars! This is the mindset of a bean counter. Instead of multiple risky projects, they do one project at a time aimed at hitting every audience for "safe" returns.When you couple this with a changing market, because old failures often made back their money on DVD sales (which no longer exist), and the cinema is dead because the execs went "nobody is going out because of covid, why not just put our latest films on streaming services to make money instead?" when streaming makes no money, you wind up with a market that's very quickly dying.
>>214185295Sad. Chinatown Wars was honestly the last good GTA.>Liberty City from IV but crunched down>3D>New music>Could sell drugs (GTA online did this years later)>Intuitive ways to steal cars (GTA v removed hiring the triggers to steal faster from IV)>All gameplay, no shitty cuck story or obnoxious characters you HAVE to like>Rampages are back>Gameplay involves disabling/crashing police cars to lose wanted stars (in V you literally just call Lester)
>>214188310>White guys want white guys as characters,Yeah, this is why every young White watch anime and read manga these days lmao
Lol at retarded incels. The explanation is simpler and less ideological. Streaming killed cinemas. That's it. No other explanation is needed. Now a movie needs to be some kind of event to bring masses to the cinemas. Put a bunch of shitty memes in the trailer for zoomers to make tiktok videos. There, there's a high possibility that your movie will be successful.
>A week of these threads with the same picture and complaints show up on /tv/ and /pol/>Totally organic
>>214195925>>214201496Why is Harrison Ford such a fucking bitchy cunt? I swear all he does is complain
>Decanonize all Star Wars productions outside of the six films>Wait 5-10 years >Recast Luke, Leia, and Han (who look like the original actors, no race swaps, trans, etc.) >Make films about the reconstruction of the Jedi Order and the Republic >Show Luke as the hero he is, not the one who tried to kill his nephew because of a nightmare
>>214184576pandering to guys is such a retarded move. its not like jobless incels have endless disposable income to waste on goyslop.
you have to pretend to be a gay retard to succeed in corporate shartmerica
>>214199797>Wow look at these corny, cheap adaptations of pulp comics/books Disney didn't create from the decades of their total irrelevance/reliance on their classics, bet you feel dumb nowLol
Indiana Jones is garbage because people know the 'nazis' are a fucking fairytale and the germans were the good guys. Jew bankers continuing to rub the killing of 60 million white people in everyone's face really pisses people off.
Are they going to address stuff like this?Is the communist propaganda meant to demoralize and humiliate men going to stop or trying to turn everyone gay while pretending it's about diversity and inclusionThese monsters have done more to increase hatred of these people than any racist or bigot by just trying to help themYou have to fire and blacklist all these communist subversives if you want to win back the male demographic that saw through your propaganda and told you to eat shit
Did Disney ever address this
Did Disney ever address this?
Is Disney going to address stuff like this
>>214184576Who would be stupid enough to help them find new IP to destroy?
Maybe Disney should die
>>214190174Good job posting a trailer for a season with the arc where a female character gets so powerful that she kills all of her oppressing and sexist clan. Can't wait for normalfags to praise and clap at that shit
>>214184576Disney doesn't care about their consumers. The resources came from George Soros, Rockfeller and all the others on the top just for the left wing/Lgbt propaganda. Nothing else matters.
>>214204214Jesus fucking Christ, why did I read all that?
>>214204229Their end of year box office receipts say enough.
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>>214204244The current iteration of the company is so far removed from what it was, I'd say it's already dead. What we have is a walking corpse for suits to shuffling around until it's picked clean. Nothing short of a top down restructuring and rehiring can save that sinking ship.
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>>214204491>we didn't fire her for filing a complaint, we fired her for filing complaints we think aren't true.Fucking hell.
>>214194249This is completely backwards. The people conforming are the ones being humiliated.
>>214187061Americans don't know Ultraman, and never will know it.
>>214195371The group of people who hate our product is larger than our group of customers so we should do the opposite of what our customers want.This is the entire philosophy of companies post 2000. Marketing is 90% scamming your employer and 10% scamming your customer.
>>214204119Counterpoint:>jewish artifact instantly kills you via face melting if you touch it or look at it wrong>christian artifact heals all wounds and literally grants immortality within a specific areaIndy is absurdly based. Nazis being the bad guys is just because everybody else did it, they could easily be substituted out for another generically “bad” dictatorship and the story wouldn’t change
>>214196412What a waste of money
>>214196412Every single one of these guarantees creating a shit product.
>>214204544What a Baffun. Esihner left Disney in 2025 at age 64. This guy is 74 and refuses to leave. He is a boomer embarrassment of never retiring
>boomers who grew up with golden era are dying>Gen X who grew up with the 80s Disney have moved on>millennials who grew up with renaissance have less children but are cult followers>zoomers think everything you make is retarded and gay, and they're fine calling things retarded and gay againShit's dire man, hope the blackrock bucks worked out for you.
>>214184777>LetoThe game was rigged from the start.
>>214194788>white menYour stupidity is why they have succeeded so well.
>>214184839The the girl on the left of the manlet one of the Gross sisters?
>>214187509Don't ever post that dumb shit ever again.
>>214195150>>214196132>misleading jackass
>>214196342>>214187542>Disney never appealed to boys and young men. It was always corny sappy stuff even in like the 90s.>Female franchises never get retooled for men.Child hands typed your post.>>214204002
>>214184696Because SW ended in the 80s and the OT being good and fun was a fluke
>>214204527I couldn't be happier
>>214189296>Huh?Not that anon, but it was about both. Women need someone that looks like them, while men don't give a shit. It showed that white men and black men care about the quality of the character, not how they look. It both made fun on women, but also black women for being worse.
>>214206585>quality of the character >anime lol, "men" (more like boys, really) care about character being cool, not if he's a good character.
>>214195371>A flaw in the modern capitalist system where short term profits are favored over long term stability?No, this is people ignoring their teaching. Business 101 tells you to assume that your firm will last forever and to focus on long term growth and stability. These mongs are fuckheads that clearly flunked that class.
>>214200721>You can blame Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. for thatredpill me anon
>>214188026willow is the original movie, which was greatthe new woke shit doesn't exist
>>214186028>They're basically hostage kings
>>214184576The skills to make it as a business executive and get up the ladder, kick it down behind you, play the social games and succeed are not the same as understanding media/art/culture.
>>214195224Then you are a retard.TRON is kino, even if its extremely dated.Legacy is compeltely retarded, has nothign to say and it forgets about his own plot/character in the middle. It looks an sounds cool, wich is goos, but fuck that movie
>>214198169Based that she actually knows when to shut the fuck up about something.
>>214195925>take over the roleCreate new shit, retard
>>214203296That, and movies being doghsit, meeting board made and woke now. Which nobody likes
>>214204783The baddies should always have been Illuminate-like secret societies. At least those groups dabbled in the occult for years.
>>214206929she doesn'tthe "publicist" is obviously a handler and she was warned not to stir any more shit, like the snow white goblina
>>214207042>she was warned not to stir any more shitWhich unlike Rachel, she understood, jackass.
I don't care for Jewish entertainment
>>214200795No one younger than 50 can quote 1984, and they avoid it because all those people are NPCs who worship politicians.
>>214188310Nobody truly cares about that as long as the character is cool and, in case of female characters, hot.Star Wars for example, want a way to get whites, zoomers etc back into the franchise with a female character?Make Metal Gear Rising but set in Star Wars and starring a Sith girl, like Darth Talon.The EU was full of female characters people liked, its Disney that's full of Tumblrinas who wouldnt write a likeable character even by accident.The problem isnt sex or race, is that a specific sex or races have become equivalent to some kind of agends being pushed.
>>214197963No actual man has ever enjoyed the MCU beyond Iron Man 1 or Winter Soldier.Any man with a hint of test in them is allergic to quipshit writing.For me the MCU died with the first Avengers movie.
>>214204339Displaying emotional vulnerability should always be mocked though, be it man or woman.Emotionally weak people aren't human and in a more fair era they would have been filtered out by nature in their early life.
>>214187586Jews owned the most slaves
>>214187586>rent seeking behavior is goodokay?
>>214187373>administration is ideologically inclined to simply let the company fail rather than bailing them out.I think the activists in Disney's C suite would rather the ship burn than accept help from Trump
Not just boomer thinking, woman boomer thinking, basically the most out of touch demographic possible that think turning everything into sunday school is appealing
Disney has been dead to me for a long time, and not just because of the shit films they made.Their fuckery of copyright law is more than enough reason for any sensible adult to cut Disney out of their life.
>>214184576>>Cancell most of their teen-animated shows since they thought "20s something people didn't watch cartoons"lmaothey are completely unwilling to do a show that approaches smiling friends humor or bojack horseman misery. it's always the exact same jewish feeling 'adult' cartoon where people do drugs and swear and have sex and tackle incredibly banal issues to drive forward the drug and sex jokes. If you even get that.
>>214184661>Why does no one higher up get fired anymore?the world has obfuscated everything and theres no way to keep higher ups accountable anymore. the ocean of piss that is the internet has swallowed up the ability to piss on someone that does a terrible job.we're quite literally in the end times
>>214184626>They're not that retardedlol
>>214184576>Splashy global adventure >Treasure huntGen Z consume anime and video games where the main character is constantly beaten half to death and eventually overcomes his inner nature and kills God.
>>214187800What is tsuburaya
>>214186028Ok? Just get accused of it. Racism and bigotry are natural
>>214194982This. Arnold is an austrian bodybuilder with a weird ass accent, Stallone is a italian manlet with half of his face melted, and Wesley Snipes is just a cool as nigga. The redeeming factor here is that all of them looked cool af in their movies, Disney can't show that because what we call cool they call "toxic masculinity". Also I called this years ago, that when woke eventually died they would start making anything to appeal to their lost audience. First studio that goes full "fuck this shit" will make a shitton of money and dictate the mood for the next decade.
>>214210099you've got it figured out, so do it
>>214210099>that when woke eventually died they would start making anything to appeal to their lost audience. First studio that goes full "fuck this shit" will make a shitton of money and dictate the mood for the next decade.If only. The sad truth is that we'll spend pur lives watching them trying to reinvent the wheel while we already were 100 years after that
>>214210099Yet one of their main heroes is Star Lord, the most toxic male ever.
>>214210255>Star Lord>most toxic malehe's a joke character
>>214210294Maybe he's talking about the actor? He's a pretty big asshole irl. He was a nobody living off Anna Faris' money for years, they had a disabled kid together so he leaved and married a new woman. When his new wife gave birth he wrote on Twitter something like "oh lord thanks for giving me a healthy kid this time". He also pretends to be a trad christian but is actually part of one of these cult like churchs that have VIP rooms and shit.
>>214210099They'll try and maybe somewhat succeed but I have to wonder how much demand destruction have they created? How many people who used to regularly go to the movies and watch lots of tv now do other activities, prodded into them by the studios producing unappealing shit? If they start making good content again, will everyone drop what they're doing and come back? Or will it take time and money to pull them back in, with some never coming back?
>>214196412Is this not an action plan on destroying the company?
>>214206820Dodge brothers sued Ford Motor Co to prevent profits from being invested back into the workers instead of shareholders, now it's literally illegal not to put profit first in every decision your company makes regardless of how immoral it is.
>>214186974>anymoreThat's the hilarious thing, there never was and anyone with half a functioning brain always knew it. It's been demonstrated repeatedly that the retards to spend all their time getting offended on Twitter recreationally do not spend money on the things they bitch about. Why would they, their chosen form of entertainment is being aggressively confrontational faggots on Twitter. It's their hobby, and they'd actually unironically prefer for media to stay the way it used to be because it gives them more to bitch about.
>>214210099No. Hollywood us jews. And jew society is matriarchal in nature. Their society is made up of parasites incapable of creating a civilization who fuck their own mothers.They HATE western civilization and western civilization in the achievement of the white man.The jews will never celebrated white culture
>>214193335> They tried to make an indy movie where he passes down the hat to a younger man (his son) and audiences rejected it. So they went with another approach, a younger woman, and audiences still rejected it.>film franchise with a university professor as protagonist>”He should pass the torch! How about a son he doesn’t know or some woman related to his friend?”How about an ensemble adventure film with his grad students? It’s baked into the fucking character backstory. Shit, bring Short Round back as a professor of Archaeology who fought the Japanese occupation of China and then fought the Chinese communists leading Indy’s students on a MacGuffin quest to save a kidnapped Indy with parallels to Last Crusade. The fucking Sonic films do a better job respecting the source material than Disney does Lucasfilm and Marvel.
>>214210363I don't care about what those jesters do in their private life. Tom Cruise was worse than that and I watched his movies for decadesEither way being glad that your new son is normal is normal. Peopel just hate that he said it out loud
>>214184576>why isn't GenZ resonating with a soulless cashgrab reboot of an 80's franchiseLast Crusade came out before I was born and I'm a millennial.
>>214203363He's one of those artfags butthurt over the fact that his "best" roles are pulp-slop (Star Wars/Indy) and not something like Bladerunner (terrible chemistry/hack acting)You'd think the faggot would've come to terms with it by now at his age
>>214211258I thought he loved Indy so much he basically offers to play him for free whenever he can. He just hates Star Wars.
>>214184576Zoomers don’t give a shit about movies from the 80s (especially not Willow).They only care about Tiktok videos, Instagram reels, and YouTube shorts
>>214193335>They tried to make an indy movie where he passes down the hat to a younger man (his son) and audiences rejected it.Yeah, cause it was dogshit
>>214196257Almost as much time has passed between the release of Raiders of the Lost Ark and today, as between the setting of Raiders and its release
>>214196257>Zoomers are literally too retarded to understand that period films have been a thing since the dawn of cinema
>>214184626It's both depending on who's doing it
>>214211331I wouldn't go that far in saying he loves Indy. He hates playing Han Solo, sure. But he also bitches non-stop whenever they had to film Indy shit where he's in the jungle, swimming in rivers and all that.Plus he's still in the Hollywood system, he can't just outright shit on everything. You really think he cares about being Red Hulk?
>>214211476>You really think he cares about being Red Hulk?He pretty openly admitted that he did that entirely for the paycheck and didn't give a single shit about it in interviews promoting the film.
>>214211476>>214211631Ford has been playing grumpy old man for so long not even he knows when it's real or not anymore.
>>214194687Tron Ares will probably be shit because Jared Leto isnt actually the protagonist, its the chicks in the trailer, but its not going to suck for the reason you said. You literally just highlighted how it was setup in Legacy that the bad guys want to move into the real world, the director even said he wanted to lean into that more for a sequel and that was the plan. The first tron and legacy are both mainly about the ability to digitize into a computer and back out of it into irl, literally the logical conclusion of this is the villains using it. Why is that so hard to grasp?
>>214211364How would you know?
>>214210099Make movies about heroic and stoic men played by charismatic and masculine men. It’s not that difficult.
>>214204214And this is why the disney trilogy is the subversive agitprop shit that it is, she just explained every single reason why people hate it from the source whereas it drove fans insane her blunt honesty that they just want to subvert your heroes because youre foolish for taking them seriously is refreshing. With that said I would beat her with a bat given the chance. All that subversion and you still just get backed into a corner to bring back palpatine and rip off avengers endgame. Fucking dumb witch.
>>214184576It's amazing how they consistently produce content that evokes zero feeling from the audience. You watch a modern Disney movie and you sit there for an hour and 40 to two and a half hours and you instantly forget the movie and everything that happened in it.It's incredible.
>>214211954It looks dumb.How do the Light Cycles and shit work in the physics of the "real" world?You can suspend your disbelief so long as all this shit is happening inside the computer.
>>214212337you can say that about literally any scifi vehicle that takes place on earth in all of the history of fiction. The designs do not logically actually work, if they did we could make them and use them, they are made to look cool in the movie. Yes Tron explains that by having it be a computer world, but even in shit like Bladerunner the flying cars wouldnt ACTUALLLY work, you are suspending your disbelief for it despite your insistence that you can onlly do it for tron cus computers I really doubt you dont like other scifi movies with fictional vehicles. Lookup the interviews for legacy this was literally the directors plan for a sequel thats why Legacy ends with quora in real world, thats why Flynn was saying the ISOs are miracles because he knew they could be brought to the real world.
>>214212337>You can suspend your disbelief so long as all this shit is happening inside the computer.This is the retarded part, dumb as shit hollywood writers can't understand that the concept of the original film was "person goes into computer world, and in computer world computer logic applies" so we get a retarded plot where when computer people come into the real world for some reason computer logic still applies and essentially they've just given this world a "make fucking anything you can imagine lmao" machine.
>>214212424it's not internally consistent with its own logic you retard
>>214212451Its not retarded, the director for Legacy was planning this same concept as the sequel for Legacy but it underperformed so the sequel wasnt greenlit. Then writers in fact understand it better than you. When Flynn is talking about how revolutionary what hes doing in the Grid is its because of the real world application not because the Grid is fun and cool. >>214212469Yes it is, the villains plan in Legacy was to bring everyone into the real world and conquer it. You literally said it already and youre backtracking pretending they are just making it up now for Legacy. It was setup, Quorra is in the real world at the end, its actually consistent.
>>214212451at 2:11 here the entire scene is about how he made a literal "make anything you can imagine lmao" machine and its only possiblle because of the ISOs. This is literally what the movie is about and you did not understand it. https://youtu.be/ECul-F4TcIU?si=VH2EG2M2Q9wjzaQ8&t=131
>>214197695The ones refusing to believe this, despite companies being very honest with it, are just marketing shills or wannabe fence sitters.
>>214187821what a strange looking man
>>214212492>>214212544Bro, I don't care what the director was planning, the plain simple fact is it's retarded.Making the leap from "we can program people with theoretically possible DNA or whatever and then make them real" to "we can make big hardlight machines that don't make any sense in real world physics whatsoever cause that's how they looked in the digital place so now they're like that in the real world" is fucking stupid. That scene you posted is Jeff Bridges waxing poetic about the vague concept of the possibilities of a new scientific frontier, he's not saying "we can make impossible lasers lmao cause I invented a star trek replicator but dumber".If the writers "in fact understood it better" then they'd do something actually interesting with the concept that logically follows from what we know about it, something like the company using it for essentially digitally coded genetic engineering, cloning, whatever. There are so many things you could do with this fictional technology that would actually make sense within the realm of reasonable suspension of disbelief that aren't "Jared Leto has an infinite UFO printing machine lol".
>>214204214>prequel era jedi are le badYeah, that's why the chosen one had to burn the order down like a forest fire so his son could rebuild it. Then he had to destroy the cancer called the dark side. Once that was done, balance was restored and a New Jedi Order could be rebuilt with normal humans in charge instead of insane zealots.
>>214184576Even with Crystal Skull I thought Ford was too old. When Dial of Destiny was announced I had zero interest to see it, as now he was really too old. I doubt I'll ever watch Dial of Destiny.There's time for everything and for Ford playing Indy it passed years ago. It could be interesting to see a new version of Young Indiana Jones series though.
>>214184626They are. For example, at WDW they tear down rides instead of just expanding into the loads of land they have in a misguided effort to keep the ride count of Florida and California roughly the same while Universal says fuck it and recognizes California can't really expand, but that should hold Florida back.>RIP Muppet Vision
>>214187586>deleted repliesyep disney shills are in this thread
