Wow way to shit the bed with that ending It was really good until that machine gun scene
>>214191967That was the best part of the movie. The rest was pretty good too.
>entire movie is deliberately designed as ragebait>only get mad at the end when antifa are portrayed as competent super soldiersWhat was Ari thinking with this?
>>214191967I kind of saw it as a hyper exaggeration of how people living in different realities end up with different outcomes. Belief makes reality, but said realities can come at a cost
>>214192745Were they antifa? I thought they were sent by the tech company or by some NWO type organization (because of the weird logo on their plane)
>>214193093>I thought they were sent by the tech company or by some NWO type organizationThey were shown wearing antifa symbols on the plane, though I suppose it could just be a falseflag for the real org to mask a cover-up. Not really sure, Asters movies usually take a while to stew for me given all the interweaving subplots and symbolism and I watched it not that long ago
it was blatantly a false-flag operation by big tech in order to get the datacenter builtyou have to have a fucking worm in your brain to think they were aNtIfA sUpEr soLdIeRs
>>214192745>competent super soldiersThey can't even kill one single middle aged man
>>214193387That's what made that part feel surreal to me. They're able to rig explosives, coordinate pincer attacks, and get headshots from long distances (native cop) but can't ever seem to get the sheriff until he runs out of ammo. I would call it hack writing but knowing the director, there's probably some symbolic narrative purpose to it I haven't parsed through yet.
>>214191967You are out of your goddamn mind. The more I think about this movie, the better it gets. I don't want to rank it above There Will Be Blood, but a week after watching, it's on par.
>>214193534In Beau, despite all the odds and his innocence, God kills him.In Eddington, despite all the odds and his guilt, God spares him.
>>214193921>I don't want to rank it above There Will Be Blood, but a week after watching, it's on par.kek nice bait but not even close. it's good but not that good.
>>214191967Is Ari making these threads? At this point I have to wonder. Movie bombed, covid discourse sucked and no one wanted to relive that crap so soon.
>>214192745>>214193314>>214193958I like your thinking, but it's the opposite. I think Ari is secretly such a doomer that Beau was actually spared by being killed, his life was fucked from birth and finally he was released from his torture simulation. In Eddington, a good man was pushed over the edge and because he finally snapped and did a few heinous things, he was punished by living the rest of his life as a vegetable while the love of his life is out there having kids with a lunatic cult leader. Meanwhile, the entire town of Eddington and all it's inhabitants are irrelevant and don't matter. The main point of the entire film is the mission to build the data center that is set out by the tech elite. Everyone in the movie is a nobody, they don't matter, if one person dies, their plans change and the powers that be send in a few people under the guise of some bullshit political movement to ensure their data center is built so they continue brainwashing and controlling all of humanity. I saw the data center representative of a parasitic technology that is completely detrimental to the human race, similar to an advanced space traveling civilization that creates dyson sphere's around stars to harness their energy. Even if the data center wasn't built, it wouldn't matter because the entire town of Eddington was doomed from the start, it's in a drought and no one lives there. It's one of the few movies I've kept thinking about after I saw it. There's so many layers to it. Also the homeless guy in the beginning speaks of the internet as a devil. Selling your soul to get famous on "tick-tock".
>>214194549>The main point of the entire film is the mission to build the data center that is set out by the tech elite. Everyone in the movie is a nobody, they don't matterOne thing I kept thinking about when I finished watching was how pretty much every character was insignificant to the major plot. Everyone was so focused on the hysteria aspects from the covid fallout that they allowed the powers that be to come in like thieves in the night and transform the town into another den of scum. You don't realize it at first, because of the intentional obfuscation of the plot, but the subplot about the wife where she rants about everyone being victimized rings true and acts as a non-partisan screed against the public. We were all sucked up in the commotion in some way, and now we have to live with the consequences of it.
I've loved Ari Aster's pivot to bizarro kafkaesque tragedy. I hope he continues making more, much better than the horror stuff he's done
How can anyone claim this film is deep and layered with subtlety? The social and political commentary is obvious and so basic, it's the type of stuff you read in the comments sections of every website for the last 5 years or more. It was tiresome and a worn out joke. I'd seen it all before and for years.The data center plot was interesting but very underdeveloped and barely given any time. It also unfolds in an arbitrary way and the action scenes at the end were just ridiculous slop.There's possibly a good film in there somewhere but it was badly executed and bloated with too many characters and scenes which don't matter and aren't really funny or needed.
>>214195728>There's possibly a good film in there somewhere but it was badly executed and bloated with too many characters and scenes which don't matter and aren't really funny or neededI have no clue what Austin Butler was supposed to be doing in the film. He shows up out of nowhere and you think it's going to lead to some weird cult shit but he just peaces out right after and isn't seen until the very end. Almost feels like there's a longer cut of this film that fleshes out more of the plot.
>>214195728This is an incredibly ironically funny post. 10/10 anon.
>>214192745>only get mad at the end when antifa are portrayed as competent super soldiersLiterally the worst shots ever. My girlfriend even said "why are they missing so much?"
>>214192745they were hired mercenaries by the corporation to kill the mayoral candidate who looked like he was going to oppose their business disguised as antifa
>>214195926No, this is an incredibly ironically funny post. 11/10 anon.
It just doesn't work as a whole, as a film. There's good pieces but they are just thrown together. Things just happen because the film maker needed them to happen to make the next scene. This is stupid filmmaking trying to disguise itself as clever and it's boring.
>>214191967Honestly should've ended with the tik tok video, but that wouldn't be a Ari Aster film.
>>214195483At least Kafka acknowledges a great totalitarian power controlling all aspects of bugs lives. Aster can't even do that, despite the most well funded central govt in the world by worlds reserve currency (not for long)
>>214192745Your low iq wasn't able to derive they were professional mercenaries false flagging as antifa.The whole movie is about social media driving people to hysterics and how that can be taken advantage of.
>>214195728>>214196386Found the pol shill >pls comrade do not watch movie about internet agitation
>>214196517>Aster can't even do thatHe does, he just does it in an indirect way that isn't meant to be overt and hamfisted. The whole point of the movie was people getting distracted by meaningless, trivial shit and the people who control the world taking advantage of it
I would sympathize with Phoniex character more if I knew his insecurity didn't stem from being a massive cuck
>>214195728>The social and political commentary is obvious and so basicYou give the average movie goer too much credit
Ari Aster is 4/4 for having full frontal nudity in his films, just throwing that out there
>>214196769Then why not just say that instead of wasting 2.5 hours of people's time with art slop drudgery? I watch movies to be entertained, not lectured to.
>>214196769It was very hamfisted, anon.
>>214195483>>214196517>>214196769Exactly, Ari is very subtle about the main themes of his movies. He never outright says it unless it's in an interview, but all of his movies have a common theme. Everyone in the film is fucked from the start, maybe that's how he sees the world or being born. >Hereditary: The entire ritual was already taking place, Paimon was being born no matter what happened>Midsommar: The entire group was going to die, it was over as soon as they went to the festival, they were set up from the beginning>Beau is Afraid: Maybe the most literal one, Beau was absolutely fucked from birth, his mom is like an eldritch god.>Eddington: The entire town of Eddington was fucked from the beginning, despite so few people living there, they were in a drought, in the midst of a "pandemic" with no infections, being controlled from their phones by entities that were never seen in the film. Very hyperreal.One thing I connected is the solidgoldmagikarp and the data center was an omen, shown right in the beginning of the film. A stamp of humanities inevitable downfall, much like Paimon's cult symbol was an omen for the fate of the family in Hereditary. Eddington is his best film imo.
