>"Man, I'm serious, if there's anything at all I can do you let me know.">"Yeah . . . I'll give ya a buzz . . . "
>>214195618gorilla nest
>>214195618That sketch was kinda cringe.
>>214196249nah, this and Graduation were pure kino, and Eric is fucking incredible in Friendsgiving.
>oh god, oh god, how can this be happening to me
>>214195618season 2 made SOLEY for the purpose making charls suck a dick
>>214195618>hehe hey i remember that exact shot from the end of the teacher sketch in World Peace (don't need to put season because the new "Extreme Peace" isn't the same show as World Peace and doesn't share the name) it's so awesome to see the same shot again. that's genius to put a music video as the end of the sketch instead of putting a punchline.>woah dude. did you know that nick's wife actually had a miscarriage in real life, as revealed by the "documentary" (?) (is it a documentary just because you call it one? or if it's a youtube video does that take away from it earning the name "documentary"? what about if it's also sponsored by the subject of the documentary and includes a discount code related to the subject of the "documentary"? in that case any semblance of objectivity or journalistic integrity would be lost, right?) >that makes this sketch actually "better" because it's about something that happened to him (his wife, whom he made the butt of the joke in the sketch). isn't art powerful? um no it doesn't actually have to be good or do anything transformative to the real-life inspiration. if you reference something that happened in real life that automatically makes the "art" really good
>>214195618>Sam: "Im the master of trolling bro. No one can understand my level of meta irony! I'm unstoppable!">"Heh, make a Gorilla nest.">Sam: "F-FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!"
>>214196490Sam couldn't let charls get away with calling him a talentless nerd
>>214196482He looks VICERALLY TERRIFIED
>>214196908He pulled a Buckley? Am I reading this right?
>>214195618*spits out chewed up cookie out of fear his boss will make him sit in the corner for muh seed oils*
>>214196948https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTniDw0QxfgThat podcast was Harland's D-DAY
I think MDE crew have been spamming "Dude nick is the funniest man on the planet" He is not.>Dominican impersonation>Bill Burr impersonation>Make fun of house >Random accent>Life advice>Real-estate advice>Antique story>Story that takes place in Woonsocket>Fuck that fat girl>Charmonix Plugand then start from the top again. Same fucking thing over and over. All 3 need eachother as ingredients to make MDE. Individually they kinda suck. But 3 small doses of them in 1 pill is good.
>>214196482What's going on here
>>214199079Its so strange he just kinda made fun of the whole situation and turned it into a bit like when he jokingly said " Yup Sam fucked it up, Joe Rogan called...." but he wont talk about that moment when he looks like he just did a hit of galaxy gas or somthing.
>>214198098It was really fucking weird how in the aftermath of that meltdown, all the MDE crew's livestreams talking about were very careful not to mention or criticize Sam in any way.Sam must be a nightmare to work for.
>>214196948https://youtu.be/jYSDwFO6ypU?t=609
>>214196461which one of these retards are you?
>>214196461Charles also said in one of his streams he had a cream worm when his wife made cream cookies. THen he did the Nice and creamy. Idk he has his odd bal/wild cardl funny moments.https://youtu.be/TBOz8XhYdSs?t=129https://youtu.be/ruhq_-nmZ_4?t=2680
>>214199333all me btw
>>214199333I wonder how much each one of them personally has given to Sam, in dollar figures
>>214199543He could do so much more with his creativity than be Sam's lackey but he chooses to hinge it all on a man with a history of not only fucking everything up for everyone but also personally fucking him over (the book sales). So stupid. His fullmode shirts look great, all his material in Hkw To Bomb was great (and it was mostly his material), his shorts with just Hayden have been great. Cut the fucking umbilical cord alreadyNick, I don't give a fuck what he does at this point. He's too old to be locked down by a fucking Rolex but I guess he's content playing high school dominance games with Sam in his 50s
Like dude give the Rolex back to him l just get this toxic piece of shit INCEL out of your life
>>214197054FUCKING NERDS
>>214196490>>214200094Charls willingly came back. Charls willingly sucked that dick. At no point was a gun placed to his head. He explicitly went back on his own words in that stream, and nothing fruitful has come of it. What a true pity. The mirth was all a lie.
>>214196482>weed today is too strong man, had to quit>what are you guys freaking out about? it was all part of the bit!
>>214200159He literal looks like he is moments from death and sees it coming lmao this shit is over gorilla nest extreme is done I never want to hear about the new $120 per month nootropic supplement system or crypto trading cards or amateur scat porn or whatever else these retards put their name on ever again
the fact that they didn't all jump in during hte harland thing really shows that sam is the only real one in the group. they're all fake other than him. like, he's the only one that actually wants to do something real. the rest of them just want to be another faggot on a podcast shilling their special/book/podcast/shows.
>>214200311Are you fucking retarded or just 15
>>214200365they act like some edgy group but theyre not. sam is. the rest arent though. they do nothing edgy whatsoever when they go on other shows. theyre just riding sams coat tails
>>214195700HAHAHAHA LMAOHAHAHAH LOL
>>214200462Literally a 13 year old
>>214200492not an argument
>>214200507Neither is "kill yourself" but I'm telling you to do so anyways
>>214200521charls and nick and the rest do literally nothing. sam is the whole draw
>>214200603Sam is the least funny and most insufferable clown in the circus.
>>214200603The twigs. Fetch them. That wasn't a suggestion.
>>214200731>insufferable clown in the circus.He's ridiculously pretentious. When you hear him talk about his old work and realize he's just some art school hipster who wanted to test the boundaries of free speech rather than just being a funny dude.
>>214199035Erik is the funniest one.
>>214200731>>214200737nick and charls werent even involved from like 2017-2022
>>214196490
>>214200808We know. Mde has been dead since 2016. It's better to pretend they didn't even come back
>>214200808And nothing of value was produced.>>214200772I could respect his art fag pretentions somewhat if he owned it but he's pathologically unable to be sincere so he just shields himself with a layer of ironic distance on everything he does. He's a coward.
>>214200804Erik is surely the most normal so it tracksthe funniest comedians are the ones who are not yet separated from normal ass wageslave lives. like Shane is slowly getting less and less relatable as he grows in popularity
Eric isn't funny and im tired of faggots pretending he is. He doesn't even do anything.
>>214200967>I could respect his art fag pretentions somewhat if he owned itSame, I have no problem with him being a gay art student, his shit Elitism and contradicting statements is what I don't like and those yt fans eat every word this guy says up. Not really some call him on his BS
>>214200064Charles is great but by himself he is to schizo. They all have their own things outside MDE and when they combine their talent in small doses thats when they make magic. Sam is the center piece holding it all together so he has most leverage over them however they all have their own shit outside MDE.Sam >Fishtank>Gumroad Content>Solid Fan base>Rich Trust fund millionaire + Bitcoin >Sam Hyde ShowCharles>The Palace>Gum road>Blue collar work (worked with Eric)Nick>Can work at any car dealership>Charmonix House>Starting to do independent live shows without MDE according to the lastest PGL episode>Real estateEric>Construction God youtube channel>Palace podcast with Charles>Eric Hayden Construction firmLuckly they all have things to fall back on if a fight ever broke out (again). But Sams henchmen like Luke, Brian?(Chinese/Mexican mystery meet guy?), Chris Lynch, Jeet Neptrune are the real sycophants that realy have to do all the bitchwork and are anchored to sam forever. They have had 0 time to develop something/skill independent from Sam to fall back on for money. Only thing they could realy do is maybe live stream and just spill all the beans for donos.
>>214201015I think part of it is New England humor. If you are some unfortunate nobody living in a fly over state cornfield shithole you may not get the overall humor or their synical humor on things. You just have to live in a shithole like Pawtucket or Woonsocket and be surrounded by those EBT triple decker losers who never amount to anything in life to kinda get why the see things the way they do.
sam is the most naturally funny. and he's funniest just being an internet commentary troll. remove that weird goblin jet and just have sam screen share browsing the internetcharls would be good long form content reviewing literature or old films, age doesn't suit his style of "did you know we're fucked?" comedy, but he could pivot to academic style entertainment. but he doesn't have nepomoney to just do whatever without getting a real job as wellnick isn't a good comedian. he's socially adept. in any given social event he'd probably be the funniest guy, but not something to sit and watch. his shtick is painfully recognizable now (someone approaches me with a stupid idea, i respond violently in an overly elaborate way).eric is a replaceable background character. use perfectly once a season like ceo as changeup of main characters and that's itshultz doesn't mesh with mde comedy. they cover the same topics with the same perspective and point, so it would seem like a fit, but shultz was less dark, more light-hearted, and absurd. shultz portrayed the actual silliness of his subjects, mde derided the subjects silliness. both worked on their own, together you get mean-spirited shock porn that hardly differentiates itself from the subject being portrayed
>>214195618When this sketch ended I literally said "That's it?" What was the big joke? There were some good bits like the hair getting bigger or the fatass hoe, but what was the actual point? Should've ended with Nick punting a bloody fetus prop or something. Anything is better than nothing.
>>214198044Someone answer me on this here. I wanna know how tasteless this has really become and no I will not pay for it or even torrent it
>>214195618this sketch and the sucking dick one, actually all of EP, confirmed they were told by evil people to make trash for the goyim
>>214196482I wonder what his blood pressure was during this.
>>214198729kek
world peace 2 (extreme peace) was a dud.nothing memorable despite world peace having at least 1 memorable scene or quote per episode.
>>214200311>Sam needed backup on the battle of the wits and manhandling a 60 year old man
>>214199333I saw one of those posts word for word but for a indian shitjeet scam on twitter
>>214199333dude quit doxxing mealso sam won
>>214200603oh shit oh fuck anon no you can't post that /tv/ is where i'm safe from sam please stop
>>214202733It was unexpectedly made and it was made at the same time fishtank was on so he had that project to look after. The only reason why they got it is a Mexican dude got hit by a bus, woke up from a coma and got a multi million settlement. And with 1 million of that decided to produce EP.I dont like how sam thinks he is some kind of graphic expert. The Warez/Cracktro/Demo scene had more impressive graphics with their keygens/installers than anything from Sam. If he makes EP 2 then i hope all his focus is on it. Regardless I cant complain it was cool that it came out. The grand plan for sam is all these projects are just ways to fund "Joyride" video game. But I have a feeling that the game will be shit.
>>214200603Charles sucked a dildo for the show. That shows the length he is willing to go to try to make things funny. Sam had hit and miss moments. Nick unfortunately had no funny moments he was just fluff. They should just try the car show idea they talk about
>>214200603Hi Sam. If this was true your standup wouldn't be terrible. Nick and Charls carry you. That's why you never appear alone.
>>214203094My ultimate realization with these guys is that none of them, not even Nick (often cited as "the funny one"), graduated above "high school class clown" level. They're that goofy kid you knew in class that somehow managed to make his classmates laugh to get them to like him. The kid you imagined might grow up to be a comedian, but like just about every class clown, these guys never really did.Even putting them in a standup routine situation, they behave exactly how you would expect your resident class clown to act. Sam unprofessionally relied on reading his jokes off paper for years even.And that's the thing, these guys aren't professionals. Put them next to a professional comedian and well, you know how that looks.Somehow they've managed to create this larp cult of completely faking it because their autistic dick riders can't tell the difference and that they stole all their jokes from imageboards. And then avoided being exposed as frauds, until now.No wonder Sam considers Joe Rogan his saving grace, Joe is of the mindset that you can actually be a comedian if you just declare you are and hump a stool on a stage, and everyone will believe you. It's a delusion. And Sam thought he could trick Rogan the same ways Jews think they can trick God by swinging chickens around to transfer their sins or some shit.
>>214204379I know this is copied from reddit, but how can they say they didn't graduate from class clown if they sell out comedy clubs on a national tour.
Nick. Get away. You have actual talent. Sinking ships...
>>214204426>sell out comedy clubs on a national tour.lol the clubs they go to are tiny and the crowds look like a couple dozen people at best
can we start selling t-shirts with sam hyde at an embarrassing angle (and not one that makes him look ugly in a ha ha funny ironic way) with big bold text that says, "THE RAPED."that and a putinmonkey style photoshop blend of him and a gorilla. both of those would sell like crazy
>>214204379Take your meds
And he pays men to fuck him! Fucking nerd!
>>214204561They're not real comedians dude, they're grifting cult leaders. Parasites that have found the path of least resistance to suck the blood out of 4chan. Fishtank alone should tell you that.
>>214204696Meds. Now.
>>214199167yeah dudes a sociopath and they all recognize he basically can't function without complete submission from everyone around him.also lmao at that webm.
tfw you watch your kid in a woodchipper
>>214200731Sounds like someone hasn't seen his epic newgrounds tier cartoon
>>214196482This entire seance was so fucking funny lmfaoThe existential dread in Nicks and the rest of the gangs eyes as Sam chimped out. Perfection.
>>214195618man the graduation sketch really was a 11/10 right up to the very end where Charls busts out the XL schlong, after which it plummeted to a 2/10. Why do they do this to themselves.
>>214207794what was good about it prior to that? The loser kid who gets to be prom king, getting on stage and sucking his own dick was the perfect punchline to the whole thing, it is the hardest I laughed at any of the skits this season. >That kid's going places
>>214207794Why do you keep giving these grifter faggots second chances. They're not really on your side.
Daily reminder not to trust Sam Hyde. He's funded by thiel and they will try to discredit you if you give them any personal information.
>>214199167Lmao
>>214195618The amount of seethe these men generate on this board is more than enough to make me a fan. I don't know what they do, but if it pisses these cücks off, they must be doing something right.
>>214208196>The amount of seethe these men generate on this boardIt's a couple of people who post nonstop about him. That's why it's always the same 5 images and the same 5 webms posted in sequence, then the thread dies. They were pretty regular before this but were going extra hard for a bit. For some reason they seem to legitimately have thought the gorilla nest thing was going to kill his career.
>>214199035Charls got pretty big as a schizo twitch streamer before sam made a full come ack post WP cancellation, I'd say he has the most originality for sure. Sam kinda sucks now man
>>214201185As a white man from Brooklyn with family in Long Island, I fully get where they're coming from
>>214196908Holy shit why do you know this much about some sketch comedy group lmfao when was the last time you left your gaming chair
>>214198044>BuckleyEverything Buckley wrote about was fictional. It's based on a "what if" scenario if he had stayed with a girlfriend who broke up with him.
>>214208359No he was barely pulling 200 viewers while begging for donos and his wife almost divorced him for being a failure. Successful streamers pull 10k+ viewers and you need at least 1000 to make a living off it.
Sam spent so much time being a wannabe lifecoach, he forgot how to be an actual comedian.
>>214207794You are taking yourself too seriously. You can't take yourself too seriously, you know?
uh oh!weekly seethe at the infinitely more successful than harlan comedian, Sam the motherfucking HYDE i see...fun fact! as we speak, more people interacted with sam's content positively, than the total of people who will EITHER read or reply to this thread in total ; )
>>214209160I remember watching him stream from his wife's parents house in the fucking middle east to like 100 people just before WP2 its little wonder he took the check and sucked a dick along with the drunk stream (why didnt his wife stop recording btw) he was kinda forced into it
>>214203094imagine getting filtered by the dick sucking scene. did you not watch the rest of the sketch or something? or did it just go over your head?
>>214208800Wow, all this time I thought he was getting made fun of for turning something serious that really happened into a shitty webcomic. Knowing that the truth is far more retarded than that kinda takes the wind out of my sails
>>214195618Happy World Daddy series was funnier than world peace2
>>214204379idk if this is a joke but picrel is really super funny dude it shows YOURE what the comedy world needs..
>>214211133I just took a jet blasted diarrhea shit and it stank really bad and it was funnier than both HWD and WP2
I want her.
>>214200126I legit lost respect for Charles. On the same stream where he talked about how haha funny it was that he sucked a dick in the sketch and how it was real comedy and high art, on that very same stream he FLIPPED OUT and ranted for forty fucking minutes about some video he saw on X that involved public fingering. He's a hypocrite that could never live up to his own purity tests.
>>214196490an actual humiliation ritual>but its gotta be hard coming into work every day looking right into the eyes of the guy you know ordered you to suck that dick... and even having to smilemaybe its worth it for that cushy podcasting gig and a slice of the gumroad money or whatever, beats working construction I guess but it is still a crazy move by sam
>>214200487>coom?
>>214201015his construction god youtube shorts are funnier than most of extreme piece (of shit)
>>214195618the only really funny parts of the show are the comiserating aspects of the show. The anger and dissasociation with aspects of modern life are relatable. But all the skits having no punchline and half of the skits being about little girls gets tiresome after awhile. More Toss it Project, less Daddy Dom.>I swear to god I'm going to kill a whole fire house full of peopleis funny. but the 5th shitty screamo fag band getting showcased is just garbage. Step it up Sam.
I don't get it, wtf is a gorilla nest
>>214212811>and half of the skits being about little girls gets tiresome after awhile.its because sam is very angry with women and needs the world to know it
>>214212697Again, Charls didn't have to do it. Just like Nick could give back the Rolex and walk away. They could both never see Sam again in their lives and be all the better off for it but willfully stay shackled to him. It's mindboggling
>>214212829You had to be there
>>214200826Can I have a link to a video of his breakdown please?
>>214211100Personally I think it's much worse. It's basically his 10 year long daydream about what his life would be if he didn't fuck this relationship. I may be remembering this wrong but there's a possibility it wasn't actually a girlfriend, just a female roommate and all romantic involvement was fabricated.
>>214212842its like being a mob wife, you have a certain standard of living tied to this individual and you dont want to give it up, cut all ties, and lose everything you havenick would probably be okay because he's got his own thing going with scuffed realtor and construction or whatever he does on a daily basis but charls has no options without this, his twitch streams were doing well but he doesn't do those anymore for some reason
>>214212993That's total bullshit, see my earlier post >>214200064Charls could do whatever he wanted in the field of art and comedy and get help doing it but he chooses to stay attached at the hip to the gorilla
>>214200462They are all “edgy” by normie standards, but yes Sam is different. The other guys are fundamentally entertainers and MDE is their ticket out of working construction or selling cars. Sam on the other hand is a true autist with an art school degree who cares more about MDE on an abstract level (i.e. what does it MEAN). The fact he is independently wealthy is another big divergence point.
>>214213163If only he was half the man you imagine him to be lmao
>>214213180Are you his ex-girlfriend or something? Who posts like this?
>>214196948Lol random boomer says "male a gorilla nest XD" so Sam goes "okay" and tips his desk over.This is somehow sam chimping out and not just doing exactly what the unfunny boomer fag wanted?
>>214213291Worse, an ex-fan
>>214213338>random boomerGen z everybody
>>214213351Then let it go lolThis “I know everything about MDE now let me tell you why I hate them!” energy is extremely cringe.
>>214213361I said "lol random" boomer. As in all he does is LOL RANDOM XD humor. He's one degree removed from "*HOLDS UP SPORK*. Imma eatinz a cheezburg0r! XDDD" teens from 2008
>>214213392It's hard man I feel like he owes me money for wasting my time. I never actually bought his bullshit like the coffee or 5mg caffeine water or mondomegabitz but the fact that he even turned into the guy that sold that shit pisses me off a lot
>>214204548Just reskin the Epstein shirt with Marquis de Sam and sell it cheap. Throw in the AOC statutes in Wisconsin & Rhode Island that's obscured by the calligraphy at first glance. Make the brand BIG PURPLE (only the Tag inside the collar). Back of the shirt along the waistline "TIGHT & RIPE".
>>214196908Tl;dr
>>214213291>he could do anything if he puts his mind to itBro you sound like his fucking mom lmao. Charles is a disorganized schizo. He's a loser.
>>214213439Stop embarrassing yourself in public.
>>214213498Charls may be schizo but he is both measurable less of a loser and more artistically gifted than Sam. He just needs someone to reign him in now and then when he gets to ranting about Atlantis and shit
>>214213471Dude getting legit mad at some e-celeb to the point you are typing paragraphs online about them is not a good look. >>214213498I’m not that anon. Chuck is my least favorite member, I think his fans like him because he is closest self-insert of all the crew.
>>214213576I'm not typing paragraphs but even if I was I wouldn't give a shit what some gen z faggot thinks is a good or bad look
>>214213612I’m just saying devoting your time and attention to something you hate is weird and gay.
>>214214018I already had to filter everything related to fishtank, you guys don't make him easy to ignore
>>214195618What a fat slob. Bitch tits lmao
>>214213556>more artistically gifted than Samcharls has never done anything in his life, what are you rambling about
>>214214177You stupid? Everything I mentioned in this post >>214200064Plus sketches he wrote for
>>214214227>shirt design (commissioned to some kid off the internet)>some few pages he wrote a decade ago>half funny skitsthe bar is so low
>>214214289Hey, I never claimed it was high, just higher than Sam's
>>214200311It's more like Sam is the boss and everyone else are his employees, rather than a comedy troupe where everyone's equal
>>214204426They didn't famous being stand up comicsPeople buy tickets cause it's the only way to see the MDE guys in person, not cause their routine is that good
>>214214531>Let me tell you why all those people bought tickets, and no it isn’t because they wanted to see the showThe absolute state of obsessed haters kek
>>214214531This. All the clips on youtube are trainwrecks, even the early and "classic" ones. There's just no element of professionalism or even a sense of rehearsal beforehand whatsoever, and not in a way that works in their favor
>>214196482>that stare at 0:10Jesus, that's a straight up ptsd stare.
>>214214604Name a good MDE stand up bit>uh the part where Sam reads black crime and AIDS statistics off a piece of paperNo moron I said stand up comedy
>>214214664His consciousness has left the body. He is in his safe space mentally. You are looking at a shell shocked husk
>>214196482>NO NO NO IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN I CAN'T GO BACK TO SELLING ANTIQUES TO OLD PEOPLE EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S GAY
>>214214675Reading those stats to a Brooklyn hipster audience was funny. Gutta man Sam is another funny one.
>>214214731If Sam doing a nigger impression but saying WHITE WHITE for some reason counts as comedy then Joe Rogan fucking a stool counts as comedy
>>214195618>>214196461>>214199543>>214200064>>214200311>>214200462>>214201118>>214201437kill yourself losers. Nobody gives a fuck about Scam or MDE anymore.
>>214214757Sure, not everyone is a nerd who gets caught up in le craft of comedy. If it’s funny it’s funny.
>>214201118>a fightLol if that's how Sam fucking over MDE forever is remembered
>>214195618>when the music startspure kinoThis is the only skit I liked in the new season
>>214214814At some point you have to admit to yourself that it's not actually funny and you're only laughing and clapping in support of a man you're a fan of and that if it was any other rando doing it you wouldn't be laughing or clapping.
>>214214851>no it’s not funny it can’t be funny you don’t actually think it’s funny reeethis is funny
>>214214927Well, I good sir disagree. But I remember when I thought it was funny, and upon reflection what I was really enjoying was feeling a shared sense of subversion over the audience, like being part of an inside joke. The truth is Sam was just pandering to me. And now that all of his artistic ventures since getting kicked off TV have failed, he's not even doing that anymore. Or maybe he's trying to, is that what randomly bringing up jews is meant to be? Whatever. It's not for me anymore, I don't see MDE sticking around much longer, and I hope as few of you get suckered into giving Sam your money as possible
I definitely did not get the same feeling from extreme peace as I did Ideas Man, WP1, etc.I don't think any of them have that spark that made the original work they did so good. This is probably due to a decade of money wife government bullshit hell like everyone else. We are in a post comedy society and should focus exclusively on violence
>>214200126He signed a contract with Sam. He had to do that dick sucking scene or else he'd get sued to oblivion. Sam is known for drumming up bullshit contracts like non compete clauses as proven by Don jolly.
>>214215529This is the first I've heard rumors of this, what's your source? I'm curious what leverage he possibly could have came up with against Charls
>>214215529God Sam sucks. He won't let anybody become successful without carrying him.
>>214215173The fact is the people that made Ideas Man and WP1 good weren't involved with EP, and will never work with MDE again, because you guessed it, Sam burnt those bridges
Did you buy your tickets already?
>>214215841Tf? Is he gonna pull up listings on a projector in front of an audience and talk shit on them live?
>>214215841Huge news for all the tens of Alex Schultz fans out there. I wonder if Sam will get a cut.
>>214215684There are leaked emails from don jolly about the non compete clauses. I saw them on the mde board on 8cuck. I don't know if that board is still around. Kiwi farms probably has them.
>>214215764as soon as the EP pilot's intro credits finished and there was zero mention of Andrew Ruse I knew it wouldn't be the same
>>214215985Yes. He did it before. Might as well have advertised it as:>Autistic Child Babysitterin YOUR Area!>Available on X Dates in Y Cities for upwards of 4 hours>Schedule an appointment today!
>>214216307MDE is just another parasocial cult
>>214216102Lol dude we knew Ruse was out a long time in advance, if that was your first notice I feel bad for you>>214216307That's retarded but if he signs shit and hangs out it could be worth it for old times sake. I would actually appreciate the chance to meet him without Sam being there