Why did they intentionally destroy this character? If they were so concerned about Joker resonating with an underclass of tens of millions of disenfranchised young men then why did they even release the first movie to begin with? Or was it all just an ego project for Phoenix?
It resonated too much with young white men trapped into current clown world and could have inspired them to fight back. So they had too destroy it completely
>>214200548>inspiring people to action>in slop worldLmao
>>214200583Didn't we got a CEO killed months ago? Or current president almost murdered?The first movie could inspire any miserable soul to snap and shoot someone important
>>214200457Joaquin had a dream about singing while wearing the Joker outfit and liked Lady Gaga. That's literally the only reason it was made. Incel chuds getting BTFO was just an unintentional bonus.
>>214200673As if those things actually mattered. Presidents are always getting shot at and CEOs are always dying.
>>214200704It matters if more people try it.I'm still surprised the first movie made it into the theaters.
>Heh.. whats the big deal it was just alittle RAPE
>>214200457Because joker ended with a person who was being brutalized by society retaliating then being rewarded for it. Which can’t happen in western media. So the “sequel” was having people come up his ass, as comeuppance.
>>214200457>still trying to convince anyone this shit is any different from the firstJust stop already. They're exactly the same >>214200548It's evil Jewish filth. If it "resonated" with you you should be shot in the dtreet
>>214201094Ah I see a man of true class and taking it up the butt. A true rump rearing enjoyer.
>>214200457OP, you were supposed to hate Arthur because of all that white male privilege he had! Here's the thing, SJW's can't identity with human beings because they're narcissistic sociopaths with the minds of childre.As such they don't feel human emotions like empathy and compassion and can't identity with someone who isn't 100% the same as them.So because everything with SJW's is always 100% projection, they wanted to push the narrative that white straight males wanted to identify with Arthur which wasn't the case as no one wanted to be him but instead could sympathize with his plight on a basic emotional human level in regards to him facing hardship and living in poverty as a result of the psychological damage inflicted on him by some evil bitch who adopted him so she could tell people he was Thomas Wayne's son and when that didn't work only kept him to collect government assistance while physically abusing him to the point that he couldn't lead a productive life as a result of these disabilities no matter how hard he tried while getting repeatedly fucked over!SJW's are incapable of understanding this because they're soulless NPC's filled with nothing but greed, envy, jealousy and hate for white straight males because the (((media))) has told them we're the reason they're not getting everything the way they want all the time without having to work for anything due to their sense of self-entitlement where they believe that if they want something they deserve it because they want it!
>>214200697it flopped
>>214201306This is why they've always angry and attacking white straight males, even going soo far as to try to incite theater shootings and were soo disappointed that nothing happened with one telling me they would have been happy if people were killed because according to them the only people who saw the movie were white straight male Incels who they believe deserve to die.This is as recompense for the imaginary oppression that only exists in their minds and use as an excuse for being lazy retards while projecting that onto Arthur and ask why he couldn't lead a normal life. But because they're problems are all psychological, SJW's wont take into account of the actual brain damage that was inflicted upon him that you can't simply overcome because to them all problems can be solved with sex and/or self-indulgence.So they deliberately tore him him with deliberate malicious intent because SJW's are evil and want you dead you if you're white, straight and male!!!FACT!!!
>>214201306I thought you were supposed to hate "him" because "he" is an evil Jewish scumbag.Jews aren't white
Most movies are about Mr hero with superpowers and friends beating literally Hitler in charge that openly eats babies for breakfast or Mr DoomEvilDestruction that just wanna kill everyone. Not only the villains are usually over flanderised caricatures that don’t represent IRL sociopaths in charge at all, but the hero wins thanks to his superpowers, friends and kindness :)But a movie about a poor fuck wagie cold shooting and killing a rich fuck landlord because he cannot afford rent? Or a politician because society, his life, country and future sucks and knows he’ll never get out of that pit? Or some entitled faggot celebrity that never struggled in life because he makes fun of his misery? All alone and because he cannot bear reality? That’s too much.And the first joker movie unintentionally felt into the second one. So they had to make sure nobody follows its steps.
>>214200548>trapped into current clown world and could have inspired them to fight backThe only way to play is to be a clown, actually.But OP answered his own question.>>214200457>Why did they intentionally destroy>If they were so concerned>why did they even releaseThe THEYs have it.
The Joker attracts the biggest retards on the planet. Almost the exact same people as juggalos. They have tattoos of him and wear Joker clothing. They actually identify with a comic book supervillain because they're so stupid. Their inability to navigate the world and act like a normal person, they view as a flaw of the world instead of a personal flaw. And mainly because of Heath Ledger's Joker, whose goal was to break down society for fun. They think thats good because society is a mess because theyre too fucking dumb to understand that its actually possible to live life not in constant anger and annoyance at everyone and everything if they stopped being self-centered retards and blaming the world dor their issues for a single day of their lives.
Zesty Peculiars get their rags removed
Stop being mentally ill.
>larp as an edgelord>kill some bros because they hurt your feelings>realize you're not an edgelord as you get raped and brought back to reality where you're a beta maleNo wonder this shitty movie pissed off so many incels
>>214200457>Why did they intentionally destroy this character?To own MAGA
>>214201325Of course it flopped. The script was shat out in a few weeks and they only filmed for 3 months. And the entire concept was made on a dream Joaquin had after snorting too much coke one day. But all things considered it flopping and putting an end to the Joker larper cringe was the best outcome.
There is nothing more spiteful in this world than a fearful Jew
>>214200457Because they plagiarized Taxi Driver and forgot ut was a CIA movie to trigger the assassination of then president Ford, the jews hated Nixon who they got rid of with the bogus Water and wanted to get rid of Ford to have a democrat president. Back then jews didn't like right wing parties, they were still afraid of nazi like politics. Democrats were seen as jewish friendly safe party. Obviously times have changed dramatically and they now own the entire congress as well as all political parties in Europe too
Rape is corrective therapy
>>214204790The joker was way more edgy than taxi driver, who murdered an inocent celebrity on live because he hated society.In taxi driver dude sure tried to kill a politician but didn't succed, and killed some low literal who criminals instead.And there's nothing edgy about murdering gangsters, druglords or terrorists. It's completely normal on media.
>>214200457It resonated with conservatives too much and made most Americans uncomfortable since most of them are mentally ill edgelords.
>>214200457Capeshitters are so fucking funny. Joker was a drooling retard who got lucky because he got his hands on a peashooter, with no effort on his part.It takes a peak manchild to pretend that someone like him would magically turned into criminal mastermind.What happened to him in sequel is exactly what would happen to him in high security prison after he murdered five people. Anything else is capeshitting wishful thinking.You fags are muh gritty and grounded, but when you are shown exactly that, you collectively shit yourself, crying into your Arthur Fleck popcorn buckets, thinking that revolution against muh system led by Hollywood movies just ended.
>>214200673will believe it when I see some joker chud shoot down the israeli prime minister
Shut it down
>>214200548>resonated too much with young white menI can see why they would resonate with cringe, malnourished mentally ill retard raised by a single mother.
>>214200457The same mistake they did with that wall street movement, the first movie was about class warClass war fucking sucks to the ruling elite so they need to kill it and change to race warSecond movie they killed it
chuddies started to coopt Joker because they are the ones who feel most displaced by society so they had to retcon and rape joker to own the chuds with a media literacy lesson
>>214205178>change to race warLeftists wage race war since 50s.
>>214205138Imposible, the Israeli prime minister gets more security and CIA protection than Trump
>>214201306Part of it is that he is in a city where he is a minority. Every person he encounters is not his own kind. Then he struggles with poverty to top it off.
>>214205022Man, you sure went into a lot of depth over a capeshit movie... for being above it all, you're failing.
>>214201330cmon man aren't you like 50, what are you doing saying this shit lol
>>214200457It's just 'Do The Right Thing' for edgy white people.
>>214205022>What happened to him in sequel is exactly what would happen to him in high security prison after he murdered five people.The rape only happened because he called the guards fat and stupid on TV. They didn't rape him to give him a lesson about going against the system, it was a banal and childish "YOU SAID BAD THING ABOUT US WE RAPE AND BEAT YOU" crap.
>>214206469>cmon man aren't you like 50, what are you doing saying this shit lolYou and no one else here are saying I'm wrong and explaining why!!!FACT!!!
I don't think that was their intention. People just gaslighted themselves into seeing the first movie as something it wasn't. There was never a plausible way the Joker we saw in the first movie was ever gonna turn into this badass crime lord who would be able to go toe to toe with Batman. The way the second movie played out was probably the logical way for this story to continue.
>>214207855No, you gaslighted moron. The first movie's ending shows that his followers become the classic Joker goons and that Joker (Arthur doesn't exist, that's what the big twist is about) finds his purpose through his eternal struggle with Batman which is what the finale was about. You fucking piece of shit NPC regurgitating Phillips' bullshit. Kill yourself.
>>214200457Can't have the plebs thinking too much!
>>214200548How did the capeshit inspire you exactly?
>>214207962>No, you gaslighted moron. The first movie's ending shows that his followers become the classic Joker goons and that Joker (Arthur doesn't exist, that's what the big twist is about) finds his purpose through his eternal struggle with Batman which is what the finale was about. You fucking piece of shit NPC regurgitating Phillips' bullshit. Kill yourself.I respectfully disagree with your assessment as there is no logic in it as Bruce Wayne is still a child and even if he started dedicating himself to becoming Batman it wouldn't be until he's probably in his early 20's which would be a decade after the first movie. You're trying to twist it in your mind that Arthur becomes the Joker from the comics and that he finds his purpose in an eternal battle with Batman which is fucking stupid.You really think Arthur would be able to take on Batman?!? Or are you saying that Arthur wasn't the real Joker and the real one would be the one people would follow?Also, why is it that sad creatures like yourself always respond with the NPC retort KILL YOURSELF?I'll tell you why, it's because you are weak, pathetic and crave power because of your crippling inferiority complex, no doubt as a result of Mommy/Daddy issues, so when you can't best someone in any sort of situation you want them erased from existence because you aren't able to hold up whatever stupid shit you believe in and that the ultimate way of removing that sort of obstacle would be for it to simply disappear rather stand your ground and confront it which would cause you to crumble in the face of even the slightest hint of adversarial conflict you get yourself into and by trying to convince someone to kill themselves you just show what a coward you are in your mind and soul.Basically you're a faggot that would probably start crying if a mouse farted in your direction, so rather than capture and taking direct control of it you'd rather kill which is easier you fucking invertebrate!!!FACT!!!
>>214207056It's a message of >you did the criticism of society so now society will not protect you this is the implicit threat everyone us under. Stay with the program or we'll allow rapists and killers to do what they like to you and we'll let them get away with it too.
>>214200457Dunno, but it was the funniest shit to see retards cry about it.
>>214209094You are playing a dangerous game.
>>214208677Yes, that's called civilization.
>>214209246No, that's a hostage scenario.
I'm not a big fan of The Dark Knightbut there is something very interesting in the climactic showdown, where the Joker has hostages standing around blindfolded, in clown masks, with their hands tied up, holding water pistolswhile his footsoldiers are posing as doctors pretending to be tied up, with guns hidden in their labcoats. I have problems with TDK's seemingly pro-mass surveillance propaganda, but Morgan Freeman is able to detect the ruse with the cell phone sonar device, and this results in the line "Clowns are hostages, Doctors are terrorists."
>>214207962>Joker goonsare they paypigs or jerk junkies?
>>214200457It's an allegory of how entertainment industry builds up then destroys its stars.
>>214210130That doesn't really seem like what it's about at all.
>>214202076>>214205022based and correctpilled
Hollywood giveth and they taketh away. You can resist but only as emotional catharsis in media. The second it poses any actual subsrantial change they will rape your ass and beat you down. Joker 2 sent out a veritable resonance cascade of pure asspain from parasocial incel retards everywhere the second this truth was shown. Pure cinema.
>>214210283>>214210369You are tempting the collapse of civilization. This will go quite poorly for you in the end.
>>214210389>yeah so the joker took it in the ass>REEEEEE IM EDGY DNT U FUKN TLK SHIT ABOUT MY DADDY REEEEEEEYou sound a little raped.
>>214205152Really? I don't see it resonating with blacks that much
>>214200966>rewardedin what way? he was immediately arrested and dragged to prison>all the people loved himArthur was off his meds and hallucinating. Absolutely no one liked him at any point in either movie
>>214209162What are you gonna do, stop taking your Ritalin and shoot a handful of people at your local Wal Mart before you get shot by an off duty cop? Exist in the news cycle for two days as a mass shooter radicalized by 4chan until you're pushed out by news of Trump calling Macron a loser?
GET HIS FUCKING LEGACY OFF
