>the bad guys, aka the trade federation, wants tariff relief and free trade is it time to admit the phantom menace was great and Lucas is a genius?
the event horizon in the image? will the eyes see it?
>>214256980Yes. I will go first. George Lucas was a GENIUS and we really should be nicer about Phantom Menace because it was so GOOD.
>>214256980zoomer still coping
>>214256980Lucas remade Hidden Fortress 2x.
>>214256980>Senate was complicit in the trade federation holding planets hostage and forcing them to sign treaties at gunpoint>But democracy is le heckin good Anakin!!
>>214256980Yes. Every war in the galaxy being about Dark Lord Evil blowing up a planet makes the whole thing seem like a cartoon.A trade dispute makes it seem like a real lived in universe where things escalate makes the crazy conflict of the OT seem even more grand. Even as a kid I understood this.
>>214256980The TF aren't libertarians retard, they want to monopolize and eventually control planets. The CIS is basically poor man's CSA
>The "good guys" are the freeloaders refusing to pay taxes just like everybody else.>Religious extremists (the Jedi) who base their actions on feelings rather than on facts support a monarchy rather than the republic.>The ruler of Naboo Queen Amidala decides her people want to suffer and die for her not paying taxes rather than asking them.>You can't join the Jedi, you have to be born with the right heritage, just like you had to for Hitler's SS.These are only "the good guys" because propaganda (the title text crawl) tells us so.
>>214256980>take a bite out of donut >put donut hole in donut hole>this is what the bad guys use as capital shipsOh, George, you are such a hungry fatty!
>>214256980>water planet>breathable air>plenty of seafood and crops>"my people are dying!!!"George is a moron
Without resorting to fan fiction, what is the dispute about? It's about taxation of trade routes, right? Is the issue that Naboo is tariffing imports against Trade Federation rules? Or is the issue that the Trade Federation is levying a tax and Naboo is not honoring it? Sounds like Naboo is in the wrong in both cases, with the Trade Federation presumably being a galactic trade authority and Naboo not respecting its rules.
>>214257316the trade federation wanted free trade, retard. free trade is evil
>>214257343>The "good guys" are the freeloaders refusing to pay taxes just like everybody elseTF didn't have any taxation control over Naboo, Naboo did not indulge in its services. The TF is not a legal Republic taxation entity, it's a corporation exploiting its power with a new military it grew through false flag pirate attacks "justifying" it in front of the senate>Religious extremists (the Jedi) who base their actions on feelings rather than on facts support a monarchy rather than the republicThe Jedi ARE working for the Republic you fucking dumbass, they're the ambassadors sent who get gassed three seconds after reaching the Lucrehulk and their ship is destroyed and pilots killed. The TF refuses to even negotiate>The ruler of Naboo Queen Amidala decides her people want to suffer and die for her not paying taxes rather than asking themThe TF was already committing mass executions and destruction before arresting Amidala and would have continued even more if she had complied. We see this in Galactic Battlegrounds>You can't join the Jedi, you have to be born with the right heritage, just like you had to for Hitler's SSActually retarded point, the Jedi in the PT ARE flawed but not like thisI know this is bait and all but for fuck's sake try harder next time you complete moron
>>214257373the trade federation wants NAFTA in space or free trade. Naboo has protectionist tariffs up so they don't have their economy raped and gaped by like slave labor on tattooine.
>>214257355Here, have two pancakes on top of each other.
>>214257413>The Jedi ARE working for the Republic you fucking dumbassNo, they are not. They were initially sent by the chancellor to force the trade federation to sign a deal, just like the trade federation wanted to force Queen Amidala. They then switched sides and worked for Amidala, because of muh feelings and muh fate. (Allahu akbar!)
>>214257500>They then switched sides and worked for AmidalaProbably has something to do with the Trade Federation gassing them, destroying their ship, killing their pilots, hunting them down through their ship and forcing them to stay on Naboo where they are hunted down as well, and then they attempt to kill them when escaping with PadmeAgain, this is seriously low quality bait. Also Valorum was on Padme's side, he just was bogged down by the corrupt Republic bureocracy which allowed the TF to thrive whereas Palpatine didn't care and basically manipulated Padme into going back and taking them out, starting a movement which will end with the senate being disbanded and direct military control over the galaxy
>>214257368they were being actively suppressed, the capital was under forced military occupation
>>214256980They weren't bad guys for wanting those basic things. They were bad guys because Palpatine exploited their desire for those basic things to make them become terrorists, politcal kidnappers, and eventually wage genocidal war on a primitive people.
>>214257691The Trade Federation was always corrupt, even before Palpatine. Palpatine did manipulate them into his plans but ultimately the Nemoidians are scum who were already exploiting their power over others in lore long before Sheev came in offering them power
>>214257500>>214257539>While the Congress of the Republic endlessly debates this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched two Jedi Knights, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict...it's all sheev all the way down. the whole thing is a farce orchestrated by the man himself. he knows the bureacracy will prevent a solution to the situation he creates, so he offers his own to weaken the legitimacy of the senate and advance his power grab.
>>214257691free trade is evil
>>214256980Needed a scene of Anakin killing a bunch of kids to match the rest of the trilogy.
>>214256980>free trade>blockade naboo whats it like being retarded anon, is the short bus fun?
>>214257316If they weren't librarians, why did they want to capture the Jedi library so bad?
>>214256980>now throw away all of your money, resources, and soldiers on my insane plan for literally no reason>YES, mystery hologram
>>214257825The Supreme Chancellor pre-TPM was Valorum, not Sheev. Palps is only Senator of Naboo until he gets elected later on in the film.I agree that the whole thing is a farce though. Not the bullshit bureocracy or corruption in the senate, that much is natural and a showcase of the degradation of morals the Republic has had, but the Trade Federation WAS given its justification for building an army and WAS pushed to conquer Naboo by Sidious, while Padme going back to Naboo was also influenced by him. Everything the Seppies do in the PT is just controlled opposition to convert the Republic into the Empire pretty much. Sheev had long planned this, decades before the PT takes place
>>214257872they blockaded naboo because naboo wouldn't sign a treaty ending tariffs, retardo
>>214257316>they want to monopolize and eventually control planetsThat's false within the movie itself.Title Reel>Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute.>Hoping to resolve the matter with a blockade of deadly battleships, the greedy Trade Federation has stopped all shipping to the small planet of Naboo.>While the Congress of the Republic endlessly debates this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched two Jedi Knights, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict....Qui'gon>These Federation types are cowards. The negotiations will be short.TF>What did you say? The ambassadors are Jedi Knights?>I knew it. They're here to force a settlement.TF and Palp>TF: Lord Sidious, the blockade is finished. We DARE NOT go against these Jedi.>P: I don't want this slime in my sight again. Viceroy, accelerate our plans. Deploy the troops.>TF: My lord, is that LEGAL?>P: I will make it legal.I can't remember all the scenes to quote, but it's always the same story. They focus most on legal options and only do more when forced to by Palp, over and over. Their only goal was to remove the tariffs, and they were repeatedly exploited by Palp that this was the way to do it, and it would all be legal in the end. Even in that first scene, they make it clear they don't have any wish to go against the Republic's peace keepers.In Ep2, Dooku points out to Obiwan that Viceroy came to him over this betrayal by Sidious, who now runs the Republic, which is why the Trade Federation is at war with the republic. It's not conquest, it's vengeance.>>214257738I can't talk EU, but in the movies themselves they fret over what is legal and fear the Republic's Jedi more than anything, even arguing with their backer over it in Ep1. Slimy, easily exploited, but to-the-letter legalists.>As you know, our blockade is perfectly legal...
>>214258049where are you getting this fanfic retard? the republic started taxing shit and they blockaded naboo in protest making little sense because papa palpatine told them to
>>214258049>>214258086The Trade Federation being cowards does not make them more heroic. Yes they do literally conquer planets and exploit them, and the taxation of trade routes was precisely begun by a contingent of the senate as a response to the proto-CIS corporations being known to enslave whole Outer Rim planets and force them into debt slavery. For instance the Droideka was literally designed originally to exterminate debtors in these poor backwater worlds. The Trade Federation in this case isn't being just, a blockade of this kind is obviously illegal, they're being cowards who don't want to be cut in half with a lightsaberThe Episode 2 thing is just Dooku bullshitting Obi-Wan, not the truth. We literally hear Gunray in RotS go "The war is over! Lord Sidious promised us peace!" before Anakin cuts him down, demonstrating he was still in league with Sidious and was only betrayed at the end
>>214258206>the republic started taxing shit and they blockaded naboo in protestthat's literally a tariff, retard. they are seething because their trade routes are getting taxed, aka a tariff. they are mad because they want free trade. they are evil because they want free trade, tranny
>>214258229yeah, I know. I made the thread saying George was based for calling free trade faggots evil scumbags
>>214258280a) taxing a trade route is not inherently a tariff b) naboo isnt the one doing the taxing the republic isseriously, are you just making shit up to "troll"?
>>214258086Also they were lying through their teeth about the blockade being legal, it isn't. Yes they do ask Sidious if what they're doing is legal but that's them being cowardly. The TF aren't sticklers for rules, they try to be legal when it's clear that they may be threatened with direct confrontation and abuse their powers illegally when there is no risk present. They're paranoid during TPM because Naboo is a Mid Rim world which may see them getting a lot of repercussions for attacking it (which they do). They again stop caring about legality when they have the other corporations and Dooku backing them as the CIS
>>214258329naboo is in the republic and taxing trade routes is based, fuck those free trade CIS scumbags
>>214258349yeah but this was his quote>they blockaded naboo because naboo wouldn't sign a treaty ending tariffs, retardoI think his brain is falling apart
>>214257825As was noted by the other, Palp's wasn't SP in Ep1. The entire plot of Ep1 was launched by Palp to discredit Supreme Chancellor Valorum and take his place, which happens at the end of the film.>pushes for injust conflict to happen to his own planet, which is insignificant enough to make the senate squabble and do nothing>publicly blames SP for all the tragedies his planet suffered and claims that if HE were SP, that would NEVER BE ALLOWED to happen!>old SP removed, Palp becomes new SPEp2>Palp sends Tyranus to make a clone army in the Republic's name with a jedi killer as the template, while Palp sends Dooku to launch a war against the Republic that requires a Republic army to fight>Palp sends assassins after Padme to force her off-world and exploit gullible Jar-Jar, left in her place, into proposing the creation of a Republic army so the Republic can accept the clones.Ep3>Palp reveals himself to the Jedi as a Sith to provoke their attack against him>uses the attack as justification to expel jedi as peacekeepers, replace them with Republic army, and is granted emergency powers to end the war and reform Republic into Galactic Empire>...becoming the EmperorThe whole trilogy is Palp's plots and goals, accomplishing them one by one. He's basically the protagonist.
The main mistake was doing prequels about Darth Vader/Anaking at all. That was just a huge mistake, ruined the franchise. We didn't need to know Darth Vaders backstory. Should've just reset and started with fresh new characters after ROTJ.
>>214258383yeah, they wanted to end the tariffs. that makes them the bad guys, retardo
>>214258389Tbf he is right that he wouldn't allow something like the blockade of Naboo to happen. He'd send the Imperial navy in and execute them asap lol
>>214258431we can debate that after you admit you were wrong and are the retard here
>>214258443nah, you the gay free trade retard>>214258407the whole autistic thing was that lucas wanted to tell the story of Vader's fall from grace and eventual redemption
>>214258489>nah, you the gay free trade retardlrn2read retard
>>214256980>the bad guys, aka the trade federation, wants tariff relief and free trade >is it time to admit the phantom menace was great and Lucas is a genius?The core premise is brilliant; but it doesn't get enough screen time. The prequels desperately needed more scenes with Palpatine helping lay out how his plan plays out. Palpatine effectively controls both sides of a war to have a republic willingly turn itself into a dictatorship. To do this he's controlling the political narrative on both sides playing different ideologies none of which he actually cares about against each other. Its basically the uniparty of the two party system in the United States where no matter who you vote for you seem to end up with a new war, more government and more spending. Its a clever idea and a smart bit of political commentary; but it doesn't fit the expected left vs. right narrative so most people don't get it.
>>214257343>The "good guys" are the freeloaders refusing to pay taxes just like everybody else.The people collecting the taxes are the freeloaders anon, not the people getting taxed.
>>214258580nah, that's you, tranny boi
>>214258639you type like a child, hasnt school started? too late for you to be up
>>214258229Everything in your post does not exist within the films. That's just EU. Except the RotS quote, which is that they agreed to stop rebelling against Sidious when Sidious offered them peace (unaware that their rebellion was Sidious' own plan), and are killed regardless as one more final betrayal. They weren't in league.>>214258330Even in their own discussion with Padme, it's clear the blockade is legal but they must lift it when the Ambassadors tell them to. Their first crime is trying to kill the ambassadors to avoid the settlement, and when one tries to point it out, the other says "It's too late now."The next scene is also on Naboo, about the senate negotiating with the TF. They also point out that first actionable offence is invasion, not the trade blockade>A communications disruption can mean only one thing: invasion.>The Federation would not dare go that far.>The senate would revoke their trade franchise and they'd be finished.>We must continue to rely on negotiation.The blockade warrants only negotiation, and there's no harm for ending it when asked by Ambassidors. But invading a planet would result in revoking their trade franchise.>The TF aren't sticklers for rulesThey are as presented within the film. >They again stop caring about legality whenAs presented in the films, they stop after being thoroughly ruined by Sidious and realize it was all to thrust him into Supreme Councilor position, so they went to Dooku who encouraged them to rebel ("separatists") against Sidious-ruled Republic. Dooku's speech is filled with truths and half-truths. He relays that Viceroy said the Senate is ruled by a Sith Lord called Sidious. There is no bullshit except claiming he himself is leading the fight against the Sith. That's what "Dooku" is doing officially, while "Tyrannus" is the Sith's apprentice privately.
>>214258389Also while this is a great overview it is true that the plan goes far deeper, especially accounting the EU. There are tons of details like how Palpatine selectively gives out info to his puppets, the usage of aliens and droids as enemies to push for Core World anthropocentric supremacy, the changes to Republic Intelligence and growth of COMPOR (both of which would grow into the ISB and COMPNOR respectively), acquisition of Deep Core planets where Imperial strongholds were built, experimental projects (obviously including the Death Star) being planned by both sides and eventually used by the Empire, etc. All of this plus all the other arcs the period has such as the downfall of the Jedi Order, Anakin's entire arc until Vader, the Clone Wars, etcEasily the best period in Star Wars. I adore the OT with all my heart but its so one-note compared to the insane levels of storytelling in the PT and the CWMMP
>>214258658what's it like having no dick?
>>214258695>Everything in your post does not exist within the films. That's just EUDescriptions like this come from visual dictionaries which are canon to the films, not just the EU.>Except the RotS quote, which is that they agreed to stop rebelling against Sidious when Sidious offered them peace Did you forget there's also a whole scene where Sidious and Gunray talk, Gunray says Sidious' plan went perfectly and Sidious tells him to stay put until Vader arrives? Yeah no Dooku was just lying through his teeth>it's clear the blockade is legal but they must lift it when the Ambassadors tell them toNo, the blockade was illegal, that's why the Jedi were sent in as ambassadors. You can't just fucking blockade a planet like that, you can prohibit trades from your organization to it but blockading is obviously illegal. The text you quote is after the Trade Federation lies to Amidala's face that they have a permit to do a blockade over Naboo when they don't. Naboo is unaware that the blockade itself is an illegal move until they start to be invaded>They are as presented within the filmWe constantly see them breaking rules. Also being in cahoots with Sidious in the first place doesn't give a good impression>Dooku's speech is filled with truths and half-truthsNot really, it's mostly lies. Dooku only says that "hundreds of senators are controlled by Sidious", implying he's the cause for the corruption in the senate when it's the opposite, he's the Supreme Chancellor and uses pre-existing corruption as a way to push his agenda. Sure you can interpret him in some ways but generally he was tricking Obi-Wan without wanting to actually reveal who Sheev was
THE TRADE ROUTES ARE IN DISPUTE!!!!!!!!
>>214258229>>214258695>They weren't in league.I should correct myself. In Ep2, they form the coalition to challenge Sidious's Republic and the Jedi (as seen by what Obiwan overhears), and Dooku reinforces that saying so directly to Obiwan. In Ep3, they agree to end the war so long as the Jedi are destroyed, which is the grounds for peace.>>214258967>Did you forget there's also a whole scene where Sidious and Gunray talkYes, I was mid-writing this correction when you replied.>after the Trade Federation lies to Amidala's faceBefore that, they apparently also lied to the ambassadors' faces by saying the same thing? Their actual talk with Padme is,>Again you come before us, your Highness.>You will not be so pleased when you hear what I have to say, Viceroy. Your trade boycott of our planet has ended.>I was not aware of such failure.>I have word that the chancellor's ambassadors are with you now, and that you have been commanded to reach settlement.>I know nothing of any ambassadors. You must be mistaken.>Beware Viceroy. The Federation has gone too far this time.>We would never do anything without the approval of the senate. You assume too much.The assumption mentioned is that they are refusing the ambassador's settlement, which they deny (but did). That's where the "She's right. The senate will never-" "It's too late now." finishes. Too far is trying to kill the ambassadors, not the blockade, which forces them into political hostage and invasion tactics.>We constantly see them breaking rulesStarting here with Sidious' orders to kill the ambassadors, under the belief that Sidious controls the senate and will make it legal, and even then they keep doubting until it's too late. After Palp dumps them, they go separatist.I'll recount the full Dooku speech. I recall it being straight forward.
>>214258599Revenge of the Sith is emotionally and narratively one of the stupidest, most poorly written movies I've ever seen, and I love the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. It is so unbelievably stupid how fast Anakin turns to the dark side and in such a stupid way, that being out of benevolence. It was a means to an end, not the result of years of resentment and being emotionally and psychologically repressed. Anakin should have felt like he already lost everything to the jedi and then had the dark side appear as some kind of alternative. Padme should have already died when he went fully to the dark side.It's strange because I was a kid when that movie came out and I already saw the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones in the theaters when I was about five and eight respectively, and when I saw Revenge of the Sith, I walked out of the theater thinking that it was the best out of the three, but on some level, deep down, I knew that it wasn't and I felt disappointed. It just isn't as emotionally convincing as the other five films in the saga. It seems mechanical, like you're just watching a reel of events play out in a way that they have to, not because they're being driven by actual emotion. Anakin seems more collected and level-headed at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith than he did for the entirety of Attack of the Clones and then he just turns completely to the dark side in a few minutes because that's what he has to do at some point. The scene where he actually becomes Vader just feels so artificial, like it's not even really happening.
>>214258967>>214259244>Traitor.>Oh, no, my friend. This is a mistake, a terrible mistake. They have gone too far. This is madness. (lie)>I thought you were the leader here, Dooku.>This had nothing to do with me, I assure you. I will petition immediately to have you set free. (lie)>Well, I hope it doesn't take too long. I have work to do.>May I ask why a Jedi Knight is all the way out here on Geonosis?>I've been tracking a bounty hunter named Jango Fett. Do you know him?>There are no bounty hunters here that I am aware of. The Geonosians don't trust them. (lie)>Who can blame them? But he is here, I can assure you.>It's a great pity that our paths have never crossed before, Obi-Wan. Qui-Gon always spoke very highly of you. I wish he were still alive. I could use his help right now.>Qui-Gon Jinn would never join you.>Don't be so sure, my young Jedi. You forget that he was once my apprentice, just as you were once his. He knew all about the corruption in the Senate, but he would never have gone along with it if he had learned the truth as I have. (true)>The truth?>The truth. What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of the dark lord of the Sith? (true)>No, that's not possible. The Jedi would be aware of it.>The dark side of the Force has clouded their vision, my fiend. Hundreds of senators are now under the influence of a Sith Lord called Darth Sidious. (true)>I don't believe you.>The viceroy of the Trade Federation was once in league with this Darth Sidious, but he was betrayed ten years ago by the dark lord. He came to me for help. He told me everything. (true) You must join me, Obi-Wan, and together we will destroy the Sith!>I will never join you, Dooku.>It may be difficult to secure your release...
>>214258967>>214259435But assuming he's lying about the viceroy, the viceroy is still unaware and shocked by the clone army (ie, not in cahoots with Sidious in Ep2)>VG: The Jedi have amassed a huge army!>Count Dooku: That doesn't seem possible. How could the Jedi come up with an army so quickly?>VG: We must send all available droids into battle.>CD: There are too many.and of course, Dooku at the end>The Force is with us, Master Sidious.>Welcome home, Lord Tyranus. You have done well.>I have good news for you, my lord. The war has begun.>Excellent. Everything is going as planned.Dooku and Sidious both planned to play both sides to stage this war, but the Trade Federation only know their one side, not knowing the real plan and only work against the Republic until Ep3, where they have formed and agreement with Sidious for peace (an agreement that celebrates the end of the jedi).
>>214259299I like Revenge of the Sith; but I agree that Anakin going from we need to arrest Palpatine not execute him to 'Yes, master I'll kill all the younglings for you' in the span of a day is ridiculous.I think Lucas should have done 4 films. Phantom Menace should have effectively been a prequel to the prequels. It has more or less the same plot with Anakin as a kid and it ends with the order to create the clone Army because the Jedi weren't able to handle the droid army. Then you get three films with adult Anakin. The first film is more or less the plot of Attack of the Clones, it shows you the start of the war and Anakin as a young rogue falling in love with Padme. The second film is all about Anakin and Obi Wan fighting the war showing how the war is making Anakin more sympathetic to Palpatine and to taking any action needed to end the war, more frustrated with the Jedi and just generally becoming more cold and ruthless as his relationship with Padme deteriorates and she finds out she's pregnant. Then in the last film you've got Anakin starting off in a position where he's already a broken man, he finds out Padme had his children and concealed them from him because she thinks he's gone nuts, Obi Wan helps Padme; but has no idea who the kid's father was and when Palpatine reveals this to Anakin its the straw that breaks the camel's back as he assumes the Jedi have betrayed him. He leaves the order and goes to Palpatine for advice then Windu shows up and says its time to arrest the Chancellor and then Anakin makes his choice. Even then I think I would have left the youngling genocide to the clone troopers no need to make a dude go all in on his first day at the office.That's what I would have done anyway.
Movie is so fucking woke.
>>214259299>Revenge of the Sith is emotionally and narratively one of the stupidest, most poorly written movies I've ever seenI agree. I like AotC but the worst parts are all the Anakin scenes (about 50:50 with Obi-Wan investigation scenes). However, I could accept and put up with all those cringy scenes because they demonstrate Anakin's character and how he will fall into the dark side. The beginning of RotS reinforces this will more unfairness on the Jedi's behalf clashing with his strong, willful character. You can see exactly how he'll fall. Then there's this "tiny" blip where it's all and only about Padme, and he acknowledges he's doing the wrong, evil thing in order to save her. Then the blip ends, and the rest of the movie acts like he fell for all the reasons presented before it "From my perspective, it's the Jedi who are evil!" Really shoddy writing that kneecaps the entire Anakin storyline at its climax. And that's not even touching on Anakin betraying for Padme to then kill Padme to then rage mourn Padme.The movie still has its good parts, but I 100% agree that narratively it contains examples of the worst writing in the series, with an effect that negatively ripples to the rest of the trilogy.
>>214259522>Obi Wan helps Padme; but has no idea who the kid's father waswhat?? obi-wan knows how close they are. plus jedi ppl can read minds. him being in the dark about who knocked up padme is nonsensical, at best.
>>214259886>what?? obi-wan knows how close they are.Yeah, he also knows Anakin isn't supposed to be fooling around with her. If she told him that the kid was someone else's I don't see why he wouldn't believe it.>plus jedi ppl can read mindsNo they can't.
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>>214259522>Even then I think I would have left the youngling genocide to the clone troopers no need to make a dude go all in on his first day at the office.Showing it at all was compensating for how unbelievable his turn towards evil was. It feels so empty that it had to show him doing one of the most evil things imaginable just to make up for it. And it doesn't suffice for the lack of power and emotion in the film, all it does is make him seem less relatable. It's such a badly executed movie.
>>214260363Yeah, that's why I think we needed another film to show Anakin's fall so that by the time you get to the last act he's already on the edge. Lucas should have either made an extra film or not wasted the first part of his trilogy on showing Anakin as a child.Part 2 should have basically been Lawrence of Arabia in space (Dune) really focus on the effects that the war is having on Anakin's psyche.
>>214260004No one cares what women think any more. We've spent the last two decades playing that game and it got us nowhere.
>>214257245i dont know why we're supposed to feel sad for the republic and the death of democracy when all 3 movies go out of their way to show what a useless, bloated, inefficient bureaucratic nightmare it wasyeah the empire probably wasnt good but its not like the republic was doing much better
What was the Trade Federation's plan even?What does forcing the Naboo sign a contract at gunpoint accomplish, which would make it illegitimate under any sane jurisdiction?
>>214257343I'd also mention the fact that the Jedi debate over shit from literally the top of the world and it takes them for-fucking-ever to actually make any decisions, all the while they're completely blind to the danger right under their noses
Revenge of the Sith is unironically the worst prequel. Normies are retards who can't think for themselves. Phantom Menace is by far the best and Jar Jar isn't even that annoying. I won't apologize to George because he's dishonest. In many interviews he claimed that those are movies for children. They clearly are not. Prequels are clearly far more mature and ambitious than the original trilogy
>>214260920Clones is best because it has the most Obi-Wan.
>>214260936Clones has too much bullshit in it. It has the best sequence in the whole saga (ending) and the worst one (droid factory looney tunes nonsense).
>>214260987>and the worst one (droid factory looney tunes nonsense).Natalie's midriff saves it.
They were chinese
Its the only good prequel. The real watch order is Episode 1, the 2D Clone Wars, Rogue One, Episode IV, V, and VI. That's it. You can also play TIE Fighter on floppy disk and read the Dark Horse comics.
