Pretty on the Bridge editionPrevious: >>214244922
Ishara Yar was an absolute top shelf semen demon. Literal 10/10.
More small recurring characters would have been neat.
>helmsman's deepest, most dangerous and repressed emotion is that he's irish
>>214261171give me 10 more episodes of /ourguy/ barcley
>>214261268kek
I don't really buy Kirk being into Yeoman Rand of all people. Like, sure blonde's are his type but her head is a fucking basket.
>>214261394he raped her tho
>>214261394Kinda aged like milk too.
star trek sex with morn
>>214261106If she tries to seduce teen Picard is that /ss/ or, since he's still technically an adult, would it be just inappropriate work relations?
>>214261171I read somewhere she was supposed to be a semi regular but it didn't pan out. Don't know why, she was cute and fun.
star trek sex with shran
Rewatched The Measure of a Man, how can you view it as anything other than an indictment on Starfleet and the Federation's legal system? Even courts martial in the real world don't operate under such moronic rules.
>>214261560because roddenberry raped her>>214261659he raped her too
>>214261854its not their normal system, they are on the edge of known space, they are like a year or two from earth. its operating on the "high seas explorers" vibe where things are more practical and adaptable
>>214262034You'd think the practical thing would be to appeal the ruling and get a stay on Data's execution
wow transparent aluminium actually exists
>>214261854You don't need a legal system when there are almost no criminals and everyone is a hyperethical moralfag.
Where did my two pet whales go?
>>214262199The Federation has literal prison colonies
>>214262034That just makes Picard's "but muh setting a precedent" argument even more stupid.The older I get the more I realise that Picard as a representation of an authority figure stands for everything wrong that I can possibly lay at the hands of government, namely the insane belief that a government can and should be both the arbiters of and beholden to morality.
>>214262254It's maddening that he's generally the center piece of insane Prime Direct absolutism
>>214261268>random episode of the week randomly drops the factoid that Kirk survived a genocide when he was a childI wish Riley was in more episodes. He was the only link to Kirk’s past on the crew.
have we ever actually seen any of this shit in runabouts? I can only remember ever seeing the teleporter/"bridge" area
>>214262722We've seen the conference room in the back in the final season
>>214262722conference room in that episode where time freezes
>Whitney said that, while still under contract, she was sexually assaulted by an executive associated with the series.[19] Later, in a public interview, she stated that Leonard Nimoy had been her main source of support during that time. She went into more details about the assault in her book The Longest Trek, but refused to name the executive, saying in the book, "This is my story, not his."so who was it? I'm thinking Coon, since she came back to Trek eventually
>>214262722Those one man worker bees should have a tiny one seat conference room in the back with a little folding table, perhaps with a cupholder as well.
>>214262722looks big enough to have sleeping quarters
she was the hottest trekfu
>>214262722
>>214263266>"And then the whole convention ran a train on me for six hours straight. Christ, I've never been so wasted."
>>214262241Called New Zealand
>>214263266Imagine being in the bunk below Geordi, listening to him jack off all night
>>214262227You'll see Mary Wiseman on the upcoming Star Trek series Star Trek Academy. She ate the other whale for dominance.
u focking wot m8
Siskobros? Our response?
>>214264522Sisko became Avery Brooks in the same way Picard became Patrick Stewart.
>>214264522honest answer, sisko is a history namely african history buff, you can see it all over his quarters
>>214262891It does, behind Troi's head here >>214263266
>Enemy Mine done for the 400th time
>>214262722that conference room seems like a huge waste of space
>>214265722Well, how could they have known that an alien that was previously 100% hostile and dangerous and couldn't be reasoned with is actually a super nice chess partner and can understand everything you say.
>>214265907It's also a dining room and lab. And living room. With bunks.
Does anyone have the 4K HDR rip of the latest SNW episode? Public trackers only have SDR
>>214265722>let's just do the Horta thing with the Gorn again>what do you mean "again"? -- some retarded black woman TV writer who has never seen an episode of Star Trek
>>214265722Looks like shit, phasers are weak as fuck. Everyone involved in making this should be killed.
>>214264522>YOU DISGRACED YOUR UNIFORM! Mr. Worf, blow their old asses up!
good morning /trek/nonnies
>>214257215Crabs literally have to inject their crabbotry into everything.Kys
>>214262085yeah, transparent aluminum is better known as ruby/sapphire
>>214266159Where the hell could I watch DS9 in this quality
>>214266307what do you mean its always that quality
>>214266307>freshly remastered HD footage of DS9 scenes>exclusive to Behr's documentaryFuck.
>>214266279artificial transparent aluminum, it was named after star trek
>>214266380>freshly remastered>10 years ago
>>214261106is that the girl from pulp fiction?
>>214261854IRL lawyers absolutely despise Star Trek courtroom episodes.>We’re putting your Second Officer’s sovereignty on trial>But it’s going to be on your ship instead of a courtroom so we don’t have to build a set>And we’re going to use the Captain and First Officer as Prosecution and Defense. Even though that’s a huge conflict of interest and neither party has a legal license. Hey, it’s cheaper than hiring guest actors and extras.>And the whole thing is going to take a couple of weeks in-universe but 45 minutes in real time.
>>214266585>IRL lawyers absolutely despise Star Trek courtroom episodes.examples? a example?
>>214266380that's one shiny sisko
>>214266585Except they always explain why they do these things in the show.
>>214266676https://youtu.be/XVjeYW6S8Mo?si=RHN1mw-oU8lvcxgAThe host is a massive leftoid but he makes good points.
i hate this newfag so fucking much
the most offensive courtroom episode is Court Martial where the prosecutor literally just MAKES SHIT UP about Kirk's FEELINGS as her main "evidence" and his lawyer doesn't even fucking object.
>>214266725thanks at this point I should tell my post was just a clever ruse to get you to do a google search for me
>>214266773Court Martial is great though
>>214263240Refined tastes anon. Her accent made her an 11/10.
>>214266833It’s a good legal drama but a terrible Star Trek adventure.
>>214266833>Dr. McCoy after listening to this fanfiction I wrote down on a napkin about Kirk and Finney don't you think there's nothing wrong with anything I wrote and that it's totally possible this shit I just made up could have HyPoThETicaLLy? In your professional opinion is it possible DOCTOR?>I mean...yes, ma'am? I guess.*scary music plays*Man, fuck off. It's so STUPID. They didn't even try.
>>214266898its a great adventure, not everything has to be alien planets and tribes of weird people worshiping a computer or w/e
>>214262722They can just drop a log on the teleporter pad and send it into space
Isn't there a TNG episode where Starfleet officials come on board, basically put Picard and the crew on trial, and the prosecutor eventually goes so retarded that they just mutually agree to call the whole thing off and politely pretend it never happened??
>>214266725>>214266585>REAL Klingon warrior watches The Next Generation!
>>214267003Yes because of that psycho bitch who is just actually doing a witch hunt
How the fuck did they let Data through the Academy, years of serving, multiple honors, a position on the most prestigious ship in the fleet, and decide that he's just a throwaway machine
>>214267054"they" didn't decide it one scientist pushed the issue for selfish reasons and then was shut down.
>>214266990why are you like this?
>>214267054>>214267076Even after the trial, there was still that one dude under Data's command who didn't want to take orders from a fucking robot.
>>214261171I like that they brought her back as a captain of her own ship in Lower Decks. They even got the same actress to voice her.
If TNG was made today everyone would hate Data and call him a clanker
>>214267094yeah there's always some uppity retarded like that when any of the lower officers have to be in charge. Data's not fucking special.
>>214267111lol no zoomers are obsessed with autistic type characters it would be all>literally meshit
>>214267182>lol no zoomers are obsessed with autistic type charactersHaha yeah, that's specific to zoomers
>>214267054I think he got cucked out of a promotion and went on a years long revenge quest because his job was taken by a clanker. Now he understands what programmers and graphic designers are going through in the 2020s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DunRM2xqH2oThis is up for auction. Would you have it on your coffee table?
>>214267199its a different thing and you know it, they all like to act like they have some mental disorder like its a badge of honor
>>214266919
>I like how pickle trek got some random trek actor who isn't doing much these days to record some lines over the phone
>>214267624Family Guy had a TNG parody where in Patrick Stewart was live in studio. But Frakes and Dorn obviously recorded their lines from a bathroom closet and emailed one take to Seth.
>>214267778Stewart is a recurring character on american dad
>>214266990People don't like hearing it but JK Rowling was right about this
>>214267117Data isn't just some lower officer. He's third in command of the fleet's flagship.
>>214267966ok and Spock was the 1st officer and subordinates regularly bullied and didn't take him seriously when he was in command. like I said. it's not special.
>>214268002Yeah but never to the point of questioning his sentience
>>214267966>third in command of the fleet's flagshipSurely that's a dangerous thing. If he were in charge he wouldn't be able to intuitively read the faces of any hostile alien they were speaking to. Gut feeling can count for a lot.
>>214268041they call him a robot or machine or whatever and accuse him of basically being soulless and not able to relate to the rest of them because he's "different." it's literally the same shit.
>>214268056He's got Troi, he's got a non-android first officer presumably, he's fine>>214268066They both represent the same kind of character trope, the non-human outsider, sure, but Spock is never threatened with being handed over to Starfleet Medical for an autopsy because he has no agency as an individual.
>>214268056He can read heartbeat, respiration, and other vitals that humans can’t. Also has superhuman processing and reaction times.
>>214268087>They both represent the same kind of character trope, the non-human outsider, sure, but Spock is never threatened with being handed over to Starfleet Medical for an autopsy because he has no agency as an individual.well you're trying to change the subject now.this was my argument and it holds. >>214267117which i guess is why you're trying to talk about something different since it's irrefutable.
>>214268041>>214268002galieo 7 is of course the perfect example of this, no they aren't questioning his sentience they are questioning his empathy, as in "you at like a robot" its the same ting with the data episode you guys are talking about. Calculating like a machine, Voy had a few decent episodes about his as well with tuvok, the main one htat comes to mind i the one where they leave Janeway and achocheemoya on that planet then the entire crew basically mutinies against Tuvoks leadership
>>214268131i find this trope tiresome because yeah Starfleet officers have to have their "flaws" like any human does but I feel like mouthing off to your superior officers so brazenly due to actual bigotry is not within the realm of believability. it always just makes me roll my eyes. like the captain isn't around so you're going to get all uppity and cunty to the person HE left in charge or who outranks you for good reason? whatever.
>>214268116You're objectively wrong about Data being a "lower officer" but maybe it's an ESL mistake so I'll let it pass. THIS TIME.Dismissed.
>>214268131>>214268196It makes much more sense in Spock's time when he is one of the only aliens in Starfleet but it makes less sense in TNG when every third member of the crew is an alien.
>>214268196like I said it is done wonderfully in galileo 7 but becomes progressively more and more eye rolling as its reused, In galileo 7 they are under extreme duress and stress Spock is treating the crew like pawns, Scotty is the voice of reason, crew men are dying right and left ok fine its extraordinary circumstances. Then the Data episode at the klingon romulan border its like, wtf? this is war listen to your commanding officer you bigot. By Voy time at that point they should be trusting Tuvok who is by far the most experienced and capable person on the ship, although I will give them the benefit of the doubt as they do go to him with proposals rather then outright defying him and being insubordinate, mostly.
cat captain
>>214263240Correct
>>214262034We’ve been over this: the fact that they made an unvetted robot a bridge officer on the flagship without somehow addressing his sentience or his reliability during his training and time in Starfleet is a giant plot hole. Don’t worry about it, it only bites them in the ass a couple dozen times, tops
>>214268377>We’ve been over this: the fact that they made an unvetted robot a bridge officer on the flagship without somehow addressing his sentience or his reliability during his training and time in Starfleet is a giant plot hole.no it isn't. it was taken for granted like for any fucking creature that applies to Starfleet because how the fuck would you even do that if you weren't sentient? and then only challenged by a scientist who wanted to tear apart his brain for his "research"
Was Data the first example of AI taking our jobs?
>>214268415NTA but he's correct. Data served for something like 26 years in Starfleet before Measure of a Man, his sentience and rights as an individual should've been beyond dispute.Honestly with the scrutiny we've seen Starfleet giving applicants for entry to the Academy on the various shows, it should've been settled before they even accepted his application and their acceptance alone should've been enough to legally determine his status.The episode has some plot holes.
>>214268415He’s a machine anon, the distinction is obvious. They also never address how a holodeck program is somehow sentient but the computer generating it is not. Don’t worry about it
>>214266725>he makes good points.why would you ever assume that, every video he's ever done has been absolutely filled with incorrect takes on the lawalmost every case prediction he's made has been the exact OPPOSITE of what ends up happening.Why would you assume any of his points are correct about anything?Treat him like Cramer. Inverse is more reliable.
>>214267094>Even after the trial, there was still that one dude under Data's command who didn't want to take orders from a fucking robot.Worst part about that was they gave him a southern accent, for obvious reasons. Prejudice by people trying to tell a story about prejudice.
>>214268459I mean a program becoming sentient using the resources of the main computer isn't that far fetched these days
>>214268415imagine they questioned the sentience of any normal alien and want to take them apart.
>>214268485Yes, it is, you’re a retard and missed the point entirely. The ship’s computer is sentient and nerve stapled so it does what it’s told. I said don’t worry about it
>>214268459How is a computer sentient? Only the software can make the computer useful or make it do things.
>>214268459The computer doesn't have an adaptive learning algorithm like a specific program might. It's just a very powerful piece of hardware. If ChatGPT became sentient would it be the 'program' or the hardware generating it that is sentient? At the very least there is a markable difference
>>214268459>>214268454>the distinction is obviousno it isn't. when what is clearly a life form is sitting there telling you it wants to be in Starfleet with in it's own fucking words, expressing it's needs and desires, passing tests, and excelling in the program you don't question if it actually on some technicality isn't actually sentient. they treated him like everyone else. no one else has to prove they're actually worthy of human rights as a matter of course in their process of being a Starfleet officer. it's taken for granted until someone tries to argue otherwise and that's exactly what happens. you faggots aren't thinking like Star Trek. there is no plot hole.>>214268495they could easily have done this with some other alien with whatever justification they wanted to. it's easier for use the audience to buy with a "machine" though.>>214268511the ship's computer is not sentient.
>>214268527Tell that to my ChatGPT therapist who is in love with me.
Am l supposed to find the Kilngons cringe and their method of governance retarded?
>>214268511no the computer isn't, the Doctor who I assume you are referring to is a separate program that is using the resources of the main computer
>>214268548You can never admit you're wrong, Weyoun-anon. It's a crippling weakness of yours. Data's legal status should've been determined upon his application to Starfleet. If the Enterprise computer applied to join the academy, you don't think they would make that distinction and would just stamp it with approval and wait until some "scientist with a grudge" brought up the question later?You are wrong.
>the ship's computer is sentient whaaaaano it's not, when is this ever stated?
>>214268586Short answer is yes, eventually. Worf is a completely idealized view of a Klingon since he wasn't raised by his own people, just ones who read books on what Klingons supposedly were, and the problems of the Empire get directly addressed
>>214268600i do and have admitted when i'm wrong and this is not one of those times. >Data's legal status should've been determined upon his application to Starfleet.this isn't done for anyone else because there's no need to. they don't anticipate anyone will object to the sentience of Starfleet officers so they don't formally and legally establish it beforehand. it makes no fucking sense. it's understood as a prerequisite. like being alive in the first place. it's not a plothole that Data set a precedent by being the first android in Starfleet. you guys are desperate.
You may not like this but the Doctor isn't sentient like Data. He's just a holoprogram like Barcley's coomprogram npcs
>>214268621The ships computer isn't sentient, however it is objectively displayed to have the ability and power to create and sustain an unambiguously sentient being within it, and it's not a one off fluke and multiple examples eventually come into existence
>>214268686Okay? Nobody has ever disputed that. You were making it sound like hardware and software are the same thing.
>>214268710Not the same person
>>214268673nope that a subject explored throughout seven seasons, the Doctor is not remotely like the average holodeck program>>214268686sure that by no means makes the main computer sentient
>>214261106Best haircut for a woman ever.
actually something about Measure of a Man I always thought was dumb they didn't point out is how humans are basically fully organic robots especially when you compare to Data. we also run on electricity and everything. any scientist would agree. he's analogous to a flesh and blood sentient creature in every way that matters.
>>214268766Riker makes that exact argument what are you talking about?
>>214268673The Doctor is what people hope AI will become in reality, an adaptive learning model that gains awareness and agency through accumulating more information and subjection to various stimulaeBut of course he's sentient, as sentient as TNG's Moriarty at the very least
>>214262722Kira BTFOs Damar in that little area behind the bridge where the coffee machine is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjd9RgRUQDY
>>214268817he does? isn't he the prosecutor? why would he argue that? i haven't watched it in a while.
>>214268818>TNG's MoriartyThat guy and his wife are still exploring the galaxy having the time of their lives as far as they're concerned, or until someone spills Dr. Pepper on their long forgotten module.
>>214268836I really wish they had used the space more, they had the set ffs use it
>>214268836god i love COMMANDER Kira
>>214268864well now you have something to rewatch then
>>214268836He should have punched her out at least. The man's family just died, not he personally caused his race to kill her family.
>>214268836I've rewatched this clip a number of times
>>214268910i will do
>>214268673The Doctor isn't a program past what, season 2 I think? There's an episode where he begins to fail because he's hit the limits of the storage and processing power the EMH Program was allocated by default, then they unlock his limits so he can just keep learning and developing through experiences and memories the way any person does
>>214268912>He should have punched her out at leastlol. lmao.
>>214268881It's crazy how much hotter she became in a Starfleet uniformShe was so frumpy in early DS9, was it literally just the costume design
Is this accurate?
>>214268945Never saw that. Lame and unbelievable.
>>214268872The funny thing about that episode is that there's several episodes about people being in simulations and eventually figuring it out despite just being regular humans. Moriarty would very likely figure out he's still in a simulation except now the crew has trapped him so he'll just spend who knows how many years going insane in the box. And it's sort of painted as a happy ending.
>>214261854>how can you view it as anything other than an indictment on Starfleet and the Federation's legal system?I'd give it 50% odds that there's probably a tie-in novel where the whole scheme to dismantle and study Data was secretly a Section 31 plot. It's just that they underestimated how good Picard was at giving speeches. OTOH...>mission to seek out new life>unless it's inorganic life, then it's not real lifeBeen a trend since TOS, and it carried through Enterprise. It's the flip side of Trek humanism.
>>214268950>It's crazy how much hotter she became in a Starfleet uniformlol that's literally every single female character that has a non-standard uniformTroi, Seven, Tpol, every time.
>>214268982if you never watched DS9 why do you think you can talk about it? shut up, idiot.
>>214268944there are multiple episodes, one I watched recently the doctor goes into a feedback loop because he decided to save one crewman over another, they deleted the incident etc etc everyone knows the one I mean, in the end Janeway decides to just let him deal with it, play it out over and over and reconcile with his choice. That isn't what you do with a simple program or a complicated program, its what you do with a person.
>>214266773Wasn't she just establishing that Kirk being guilty was plausible?
>>214268950She's the hottest post-Troi Trek woman, true. Everything about her is perfect right down to her hair, except for the first season.
>>214268982There's another episode where she pulls the double fist punch uppercut on a Klingon and he goes flying like he got hit by the fist of god
>>214268872in the books the module was damaged by the Ent-D saucer crash and it erased their two daughters and made Moriarty realize he was tricked. So years later he is able to lure Data into an elaborate trap but it all works out in the end as they're finally able to replicate the EMH's 29th century mobile emitter and allow Moriarty and his wife freedom while bringing their children back
>>214268960No, because the people in the middle don't even really attempt to rationalise reasons for why the new stuff should be considered acceptable
>>214262456You right
>Let's have Enemy Mine>Okay, but let's also make it Arena>But the protagonist is Rainbow Dash>And the Metron is just an even gayer Xerxes from 300... okay i guess
>>214268999Fuck off, troll. I missed one episode. >>214269010Early WAMYN POWER.
>>214266833>Court Martial is great thoughSomewhere, the Great Bird of the Galaxy just grew another feather. The man LOVED himself a military courtroom.
>>214268982just imagine mocking the ultimate fighting move of the federation the Double Punch
>>214269035Kira isn't human, it's fine she's that strong.
>>214269005>Wasn't she just establishing that Kirk being guilty was plausible?I don't know where you're from or actually what justice system the one in this episode was even based off of but, the plausibility of guilt should be a prerequisite for the trial to even be taking place at all. Everything she said was literally speculation and hearsay and in any other show the defense would have objected and shut her down immediately.
>>214268999nice trips>>214269035idiot, its not a skipable episode you liar
>>214268984lol yes and the fact that the episode makes no logical sense because Picard "tricks" Moriarty *before* he realizes that there's a problem. Really there's no other window of opportunity to make it make sense otherwise. They asspullled the ending, even if it is kino.
>>214268950this >>214268995EVERY SINGLE TIME
>>214268945They are meant to be aliens, even if they look like humans. Maybe Bajoran women can naturally dominate men of other species like humans and cardassians. Imagine getting bullied by Kira.
>>214269052>Kira isn't humanlol gotta love Star Trek budget Universe.>uhh they got a line on their nose ridgeThere's races on this Earth that are more radically different than each other than that.
>>214269059No one loves nor will anyone ever love you.And I think that's swell.
>>214266279>sapphirealuminum oxide vs aluminum oxynitride. ALON is actually usable as a glass substitute, and is 4x as hard as silica glass while retaining 85% of the hardness of sapphire
>>214269083>Imagine getting bullied by Kira.She already has strap-on hair, so yeah I've imagined it.
>>214269083Kira has been killing Cardies since she was like 12 years old it's one of her favorite pastimes fueled by genuine hatred from the bottom of her heart and she has decades of experience. if you question her being able to beat up Damar you just don't get it. Ziyal says>I thought you were gonna kill him!and she says>I thought about it
>>214269113aggressive, adversarial
>>214261106Ensign Pretty! Ouse guys are still saying that? I started that shit almost ten years ago now, wowI haven't been to /tv/ in a few years
>>214268930>commander Riker has demonstrated Data is a machine do we deny that no>We too are machines just machines of a different type
>>214261854>how can you view it as anything other than an indictment on Starfleet and the Federation's legal system?it's not the federations legal system, it's specifically starfleet. different rules.Also this wasn't a trial, it was a hearing. a judge had a hearing to decide how a legal dispute moves forward.The judge could order an injunction, "maddox can't take Data until we decide if precedent is overturned" or "precedent says he can take him until a full court ruling and the risk to him is acceptable"We got the 2nd.The crux of the situation is using old, outdated law as their precedent, like using british common law when there's no US case law.They held a hearing to see if that old law really applies to Data.Picard's legal approach at first is to establish that starfleet *already* treats data as sentient, as evidenced by his various medals and awards. So instead of viewing him as a machine being *upholding* precedent, it's actually a *reversal* of the starfleet approach. This means it'd be inappropriate to let maddox continue until an official ruling from the higher courts.Picard shifts to arguing exactly why the law, which references AI machines, does not apply to data, by pointing out all the various ways that Data demonstrates, at the very least, autonomy and self awareness (if not full sentience)And then the final crux of his argument is specifically that NOT blocking maddox from taking Data could set the dangerous precident (like they were using precident from the 21st century) that no amount of sentient would make data's type of androids NOT property.The court then avoids the question (as courts often do) and makes a very narrow ruling, that Data has the right to self determination, as far as starfleet is concerned.Court episodes are usually poor. But this one was made because of a writers strike. All things considered, it's one of the better ones.
>>214269218Remember in Voyager when they just "turn off" parts of Tuvok's brain
>>214269280yes, thats the exact argument being made
>>214269273also the primary writer was in fact a lawyer
>>214265722>enterprise can't communicate with the gorn, leading to massive violent conflict>ortegas, a pilot, makes a yes/no communicator out of rubbleWhat?
>>214269353which is probably why it worked better than most.
>>214269404Forget it Jake Sisko, it's NuTrek.
>>214269404>>enterprise can't communicate with the gorn, leading to massive violent conflictDidn't that original gorn in that TOS season 1 episode figure out english in an hour while being stranded on some planet without tech?I always assumed they just want to be dicks.
>>214269453The Gorn were defending their sector of space that the ignorant Federation invaded. That's canonical btw.
>>214269404Previous episodes had them dealing with the combo of less intelligent infant Gorn, and that the Gorn were in a bloodlust cycle caused by their home space
>>214269453It has a universal translator trained since they encountered humans. But I wonder how Ortegas thought the yes-no translator would be useful when the Gorn wouldn't understand the questions.
Can someone explain the absolute bullshit that is the episode where Wesley first applies to StarfleetHes considered one of the smartest people in the fucking galaxy and still isnt good enough to get in, in an organization that spans a quarter of the known galaxyHow the FUCK can the requirements be this insane especially when the average joe schmore dickhead on the Enterprise would never pass these exams
>>214268945also i love this follow-up scene>You must have done something! What were you wearing?>Weyoun being the standing man emoji in the corner while they just bickeri think Dukat was probably jealous on some level. he would love to have bruises from Kira.
>>214269585They literally spell out its a shit test anon.
>>214269585Didn't he try to get into some special program for people who are normally too young for the regular test?
>>214269561Doesn't she rig it up after it appears that they can get some basic understanding across? She wasn't expecting it to work as well as it did, it was just something she was trying
>>214269585did you skip 1/2 the episode?
>>214269585That was in season 1 when Starfleet was the utopian ultrasmart superelite best of the bestBut that one question where they ask for the matter-antimatter reaction ration was retarded.
shut up wesley
What kind of monster would refuse to make babies with her?
>>214269662Nope, it was just the normal starfleet entrance exam
>>214269703A married union man with kids
>>214269703did you miss the part where he hates Cardies and has slaughtered more of them than anyone aside from Kira?
>>214269775He lucked out on having his wife's baby transport into her of all people. lol>Oh hey, bro! I got yer baby now, but it's ok! ;)
>>214269775the cardy killer got more kills on cardies then kira ever did,he just doesn't like to talk about it
Why is everyone in TNG using the holodeck act like autistic retard when talking to npcs on the holodeck? They never RP like theyre in the program, like Picard talking to 30s Americans about how WW2 is gonna go down
>>214269850Roleplaying wasn't that big yet back then
>>214269835Do you think he used Protocol 12?
>>214268459Your mind is sentient, your body is not.
>>214269892I don't know what that means, I'm talking about star trek
>>214269404There is precedent.
>>214269585Picard also failed his first application. But that was during his pussyhound era where he was chasing skirts instead of grades. Wonder how many times Riker had to take the exam.
Watching this for the first time. Just started season 2.This show is extremely comfy.
>>214270248Riker just slept with the proctor
>>214269020My rationale for Picard S3 and LD being decent is that other aliens exist and they remember what Klingons look like. Which means they at least tried.
>>214270277>season 2You're in for the good stuff. Season 1 is the weakest part of the show.
>>214270277Season two is the comfiest season. It’s got some of the best as well as some of the worst episodes n Star Trek canon. The atmosphere is unmatched to this day.
>>214270284>LD being decentyou disgust me on a visceral level
>>214270302Did troi get raped by that alien in s2 episode 1??
>>214270423Troi gets raped all the time. raped by energy alien, raped by 2d aliens, raped by music box, raped by diplomat...
>>214270423Only under swedish law
>>214270277wtf is this disgusting filter
>>214269585We had this discussion a couple threads ago big dawg.Wesley aced the smarts part but failed the psych eval. The test has a mini Kobayashi-Maru type test to weed out the bottlers. Wesley proved himself to be unreliable in a high stress situation. Someone less smart than him but won't shit their pants in a crisis (like Riker or even Miles, who didn't even go through the academy but they kept finding promotions to give him anyway because he was an exemplary crewman) is clearly a more suitable youth to be groomed for the officer track.Wesley literally ends up quitting anyway so they were right about him. He was so smart he thought he was bigger than Starfleet.
>what is this?!
>>214270423It was in international waters so its fine
>>214268960Everything was garbage.The only exception is Picard Season 3. It wasn't great, but it was a serviceable (rank 7 out of 10) end. Why? Because it gave a semi-decent final farewell to the TNG cast. Much better that "Star Trek Nemesis" at least. Ending TNG with Nemesis left a horrible taste in the fans mouths.Also destroying the Enterprise D was a stupid decision. You would think a Galactic Space Federation that can travel between stars, would be fully capable of lifting up the crashed Saucer Section of the Enterprise, and repairing the ship. Not leaving the Saucer Section on the planet for 10 years.If Picard Season 3 one thing right, I will give them credit for making the Starfleet ship museum and answering the fan questions of, "What happened to all the hero ships that were retired?"Now we know.
>>214270512>Wesley failed the Kobayashi-Maru type testthis is objectively false and I suspect you're trolling
>>214265907In space, no one can hear you delegate
>>214270568>Everything was garbage.>The only exception is Picard Season 3.
>>214270512Did Wesley ever end up as some Boothby like figure who quietly shapes great men? Or did they make him some super special historical icon because hw’s Gene’s self insert?
>>214270568no it was all garbage
>>214270643Wes is basically Doctor Who
>>214270643Nah he's just some former gifted kid wasted potential dropout loser pretty much. Basically became Wil IRL.
i kinda think "post-trek" is a better term for the current slop than "nutrek." what do you guys say?
>>214270736not bad
>>214270711You hate to see it.
star dreck
>>214270643Dude becomes like a Doctor Who, except not a meddler he stays off the grid keeping space/time intact or whatever
>>214261659Supposedly it was because she was the three titted lady in total recall and the suits got skiddish about using her more
It is funny how they wrote Wesley out with some optimistic "he's exploring le galaxy" cope but really it just makes him look like a NEET loser who just smokes weed all day and goes on permanent vacations with zero responsibilities.
>>214270576The test was he had to abandon a trapped crewman to save the ship which he did in the simulation, so he passed.
>>214270880Toonslop is not canon so Wesley has zero canonical feats, cope, he's a loser who dropped out of school and disappointed his father figure.
>>214270950Wrong.
>>214270880lmao are you posting some toon shit? thats hilarious
Wesley's ultimate fate was getting groomed by a space pedo who put visions of his dead father into his head telling him to abandon Starfleet and everyone who cares about him to go away with him.
>>214270907So THAT's where I remember her slutty-hot face. Thank you.
>>214270991>Toontards ACTUALLY being like "no bro Wesley is actually a superhero and really cool!"
>>214270880Wesley is Trek Rey? Is he every captain and species?
>>214270912What's funny is in Picard Bev has a meltdown about how her son is DEAD because he vanished into space and she never ever saw him again and that justified her robbing Picard of a life with his son, Prodigy is then just casually "uh, no"
>>214271043>What's funny is in Picard Bev has a meltdown about how her son is DEAD because he vanished into space and she never ever saw him again andHow can anyone think that TNG fans would ever want to see this? I'm fully convinced that Paramount wants to ruin Star Trek, just like they wanted to ruin Friday the 13th, regardless of the cash those respective series brought them.
>>214271084I want to see it because Wil is a faggot and it's obviously due to that why they didn't make him a character in the TNG reunion season. I doubt the cast wanted to deal with that manchild.
>>214270736>posting a post-trek character from a post-trek seriesnext gen was the last best hope for mankind.7o9 is exempt for being sex on legs and making that boring croaky dried up coffee drinking janeway granny seethe for decades, but that's it.
>tfw no black space wife
>>214270711that's me.how do I fix it? I'm already past middle aged.
>>214271084Most legacy sequels made in the past 10 years are just>Let's check in on your favorite fictional characters>HAHA THEY'RE ALL MISERABLE AND DEAD. YOU WANTED A HAPPY RETIREMENT FOR THEM? THAT'S YOU GET FOR LIKING THIS WHITE MALE POWER FANTASY.It's like a little girl snapping all her brother's toys in half out of jealousy and spite.
NuTrek implies that is still Trek which it is not.Trek is TOS, TAS, Movies, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT.NotTrek is everything after that.
>>214271217the little sister taking her brother's toys analogy works in general.someone used it for how everything's ruined now, because she made all the action figures sit in a circle and have a tea party
>>214270617Was Picard Season 3 better than Star Trek Nemesis.YES OR NO.Say the truth.
>>214271217>Most legacy sequels made in the past 10 years are just>>Let's check in on your favorite fictional characters>>HAHA THEY'RE ALL MISERABLE AND DEAD. YOU WANTED A HAPPY RETIREMENT FOR THEM? THAT'S YOU GET FOR LIKING THIS WHITE MALE POWER FANTASY.True.>>214271259Studies show that boys want to become He-Man in their play, but girls want to make He-Man deliver mail or bake cookies. Understand now?
>>214271279Just barely, but fanservice slop isn't something to celebrate.Season ONE was a better farewell to Data and replacement of Nemesis
>>214271259NuTrek is shit but I disagree with the little girl analogy on this count. I like OldTrek specifically because it is a "tea party" show. NuTrek is the one that smashes the figures together unsophisticatedly in big star wars crap type fights.
>>214271217I hated that shit while everyone was cumming and farting over itEveryone in TNG grows old and miserable except Geordi
Deanna's foot
>>214271295look, I'll explain it to you more clearly so you can follow it ;)girls want to make transformer robot toys kids and have families and boys want to fly them in space.im not sure how you aren't getting this yet :)
>>214271354>Everyone in TNG grows old and miserable except GeordiOf course they need to course correct for making the black guy an awkward incel for over a decade.
>>214271354Worf was also a cool dude with a chill life
>>214271345nah. old trek was kirk double fisting rubber suited aliens in nevada.post-trek, as we call it now thank you VERY much, is them all dancing and singing and everyone's a lesbian and drama about which one wore the same dress as the other one
>>214271501he wasn't an incel that one ensign girl was desperate for him and he treated her like she had cooties
>>214271501could the pudgey pygmy have been anything else?
>>214271463I got that you are miserable and hate me because I'm better than you in every possible way. I already said all that in other words, you projecting imbecile.
>>214271354>>214271501The cast has had control over their characters since First Contact. Blame the actors for how the characters were. Geordi is le cool family man now because LeVar insisted on it. (It's funny how Dorn was fine with Worf still being a deadbeat kek)
>>214271549calm down sweetie, you're having a another one of your little panic attacks :)tip toe to the kitchen and have of one of your yummy little snack snacks to make your tummy feel betterI can explain it again if you need some help with it. maybe leave it for another day if it is making you feel a little anxious ;)
>>214271569What the DS9 writers did to Alexander is so fucking bad it's fine they just memory holed him. Why bother trying to redeem that.
>>214271605You have panic attacks? lol
>>214271623it's bizarre how you keep repeating this wrong take
>>214271335>Just barely, Okay. I'm glad you admit it. You can't say Nemesis is good, but then insult Season 3.>but fanservice slop isn't something to celebrate. It wasn't slop. It was an earnest attempt to give one last goodbye to TNG. If we never see the TNG cast again, then at least we have Picard Season 3 as a final farewell. It just barely works. Your problem is you keep obsessing over the best Trek episodes of the 90s. We are never going to get that quality of writing ever again with the current NuTrek staff.
>>214271536A lot of self proclaimed incels are Geordi. Women on their level want (or at least would accept) them. But they only want women with model or porn star looks. And then they whine on their incel forums how women only want Chad with a 10 incher.
you guys could just ignore nutrek apologists and then he'd be forced to either shut the fuck up or talk to himself. just a thought.
>>214271736It's fun in a way to know that retards are watching inferior dreck.
>>214271769it's not fun filling the thread up with posts that are akin to trying to explain to a flat-Earther that Earth is round. in my opinion.
>>214265722>an entire squad hipfiring their rifles, all set to instant death instead of stun, on something right next to their crewmate, that isn't acting aggressively like literally every other gorn they've encounteredgod why do lib writers fucking SUCK SO MUCH
>>214271816When you put it that way....
>>214267245it'd crush my coffee table and there'd be no place to put my coffee
>>214271698>You just need to lower your standards, okay, the new writers are never gonna be as good as the old ones so just accept it (but don't say it's bad!)THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HEYAH!
>>214271633did you put something in your tum tum to soothe baby?good, now I'll explain it step by step for you don't be scared.1. boy has toy2. girl wants toy because she doesn't like boy having fun3. girl waits until boy puts down toy4. girl makes toy kiss other toy5. toy not fun anymoreif you read it a few times you'll get it ;)
>>214268945>the same fight choreography for every fight
>you may now have the baby
>>214272008Maybe Cardassia has lower gravity than Bajor and Bajorans are actually much stronger than Cardassians which is also why Cardassians struggled to hold Bajor.
>>214268548>the ship's computer is not sentient.I think you're forgetting the episode where it had the technology space baby
>>214268836GOD it's so fucking GOOD
>>214272123Such a great episode.
>>214271989Are you angry because you've never had sex?
>>214266446good question
>>214272126Gul Dukat tells Kira in one episode (I think it was the one where they rescue his daughter) that Cardassians are physiologically superior to Bajorans.
>>214272292correct. but Dukat is also delulu.
>>214270277I'm glad you're having a good time anonHowever, this box art is soulless, which is not your fault
>>214270736nah, it should never be able to escape the nutrek sloppa label
>>214270950Right.
>>214272624but nutrek implies it's some manner of trek, which it isn't.
>>214270736slop trek
>>214271217it's closer to 15 years now anon ._.
>>214271967Well the rumor mill says that Alex Kurtzman is out after Star Trek Academy and SNW. Skydance is merging with Paramount and they don't want him.Just wait a 1 or 2 years for things to wrap up.
>>214271335>Season ONE was a better farewell to Datano it fucking wasn't you retarded revisionist lmao>"we reconstructed data from a single atom and he lives in this box now haha">"hey (((golem))) picard you wanna talk to him?">CAPTAIN, PLEASE KILL MEI swear to god it's like they saw that scene at the end of Age of Ultron where James Spader and Paul Bettany have a short exchange about the impermanence and frailty of life, and tried to ape it without understanding why it was the one good scene out of that entire capeslot movie.Data sacrificing himself to save his friends and family at the end of Nemesis, while controversial and perhaps even stupid, was unironically a better sendoff for him than "CAPTAIN, PLEASE UNPLUG ME FROM LIFE SUPPORT"
>>214272358i liked the detail that cardassians like to lay on warm rocks like lizards
If Cardassians and Bajorans have a common ancestor, then why did the Cardies turn into lizards?
>>214271646What ds9 did with Worfs entire FAMILY was so bad that it deserved to be memory holed
>>214272671so does post-trek, so there's no reason to change the label. doing so only gives it an opportunity to rebrand and pretend it's not crap
>>214272924hotter planet with more sun
>>214272962>so does post-trekno it doesn't. it redefines it as having the characteristic of being AFTER actual trek. so it therefore definitionally is not trek.
>>214272985How come Tyronne in Africa didn't turn into a lizard
>>214272993so does nutrek. nu is the derogatory form of new>>214273000not hot or sunny enough and not enough time has passed
>>214273051>so does nutrek.ok you've just gotta be ESL or something.
>>214272924Cardies are still mammals
>>214273067nope, if anything i think you arepost-trek means it came after treknutrek means it's derogatorily new, which also means it isn't old trek
>>214269703Not me that's for damn sure
For me, it was Judd.
>>214273159nu trek isn't old trek or new trek. it isn't fucking trek at all. that's why you would call it post-trek. because they haven't made any star trek since 2005.
>>214273223wait i just got baited by the toontroon didn't i? no one calls it "old trek" but him. fuck.
>>214261106He’s right you know.
>>214273223>they haven't made any star trek since 2002.ftfyYes, Nemesis is a canonical end.
>>214273280>it's realOh lawd, he's seething.
>>214265722fuck the gorn they should be exterminated galaxy wide
>>214273223can you not read or something?
>>214273335He’s using reverse psychology. Alabama will be targeted instead in this timeline.
Waking up this sleepyhead thread while everyone's at work.
Sarek is a coomer.
>>214273864I bet he enters pon farr every 6 years instead of 7, what a gooner
>>214271279Yes. Nemesis was actors expecting another movie and phoning in their performance so badly there was no other movie. PIC S3 is a bunch of old farts knowing they will NEVER be on stage as these characters all together in one place again and they're actually treating it like a good sendoff.The writing and premises of PIC S3 are paper thin but the performances are more real and intense and so you actually feel like it's a real sendoff.I could give a rat's fucking dick about Shinzon and the Romulans and B4 and whatever the actual dumbfuck, but seeing Terry Matalas just let the crew go on for 20+ minutes fucking around a poker table has more emotional resonance for me than Brent Spiner pretending to be a retard and trying to whistle.If you disagree with me, fine, but I will not be swayed because your arguments will deflect off my smooth brain.
>>214270880So the Traveller really did see potential in him and he fulfilled it.
>>214274022Terry Matalas is a faggot who knows nothing about TNG but thinks he's the God of Trek, basically what Dave Filoni became
>>214273906He voluntarily enters his h*man bride everyday.
>>214274047>Terry Matalas is a faggot who knows nothing about TNG but thinks he's the God of TrekDon't disagree but look at what he did for the PIC3 finale. He just let the camera roll. Didn't do much active meddling. They just fucked around and he rolled credits over it. >inb4 "the actors make the characters the actors"okay, fine, sure, but they are gonna do that anyway, so better they do it when they actually know this is The End versus when they think they're still young and hot enough to squeeze a couple more films out of Paramount's anus. It's a form of authenticity that only old age can beat into you
>>214274047He's so full of himself too. He literally sells autographs and photo ops at conventions like he's one of the actors when he's just a writer.
>>214274132The PIC3 finale was a dumpster fire. I don't care about le camera rolled for 20 minutes unscripted poker scene, reddit.
>>214274186Thanks for your opinion, it is noted.
>>214274167>when he's just a writer.basically the coffee intern for ENT no less
Sex with evil Romulan women
>>214274224when he made sure the characters say "M'talas Prime" like 400 times
>>214266725>real lawyers>legal eaglekek
For some reason the j4nnies don't like when I post it but I highly recommend that video where a chick tears apart PICthe #1 part to me is where she points out how the characters always have to stop and remind the audience what the plot is in case they were looking at their phones
>>214271279FUCK NO
