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>one of the greatest mysteries in history
>2025
>still no KINO related to them
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If it was ever going to be made, it would have had to have been before 2012. Everything beyond this point with few exceptions has been utter dogshit. And it would have to feature two whites. Nobody's touching this.
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Why are mountains so mysterious, bros??
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>>214290510
I mean they just found Ervine's boot and leg last year
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>>214290931
>I mean
Low self confidence indicator
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>>214290357
What's the mystery?
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>>214290948
>start doing this
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>>214290357
QRD?
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>greatest

Never heard of it

Two white retards go nutty putty and killed themselves in a hostile environment as usual?
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>>214291031
Don't worry I filled myself in. Not that great a mystery, OP. Pretty boring honestly.
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>>214290948
suck my dick
how's that for confidence big boy
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>>214290525
Because objectively, they are just big rocks. It's just a piece of ground higher than the ground around it, why would there be anything special about it?

Then you realize that walking 1000yd in height is vastly different from walking 1000yd on even ground. There's weird winds, temperature, rockslides and drops that don't look that much from above, but when you're in that environment even falling down from like 9ft can be the end of you, and if the fog comes, ho boy you're in for something.

Now scale that up to a massive scale and you got the big mountains.
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>>214291348
You don't mean it

>>214291419
For me, it's watching videos of mountain climbers on K2 and the other really vertical climbs like Cerro Torre
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>>214291459
I'm not much of a fan of rope climbing, though hanging yourself from a 1000ft drop by some screws you put in some rock is kinda cool.
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>>214291459
>thoes videos of something rolling down the slope of K2 and its just a dude who slipped without being clipped in and he's just sonic rolling 8k meters off the mountain
Im obsessed with the deathzone, its the closest thing to a magical zone with no return. its fucking insane
thats why im so obsessed with Mallory and Irvine. The first ones to go up that high and dressed in wool and leather boots
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>>214290357
So mysterious that we have no idea what you're talking about anon.
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>>214290357
>greatest mysteries
>kino
Literally summited, then fell while returning down the slope at night because they were late to summit. They already found Mallory's body decades ago and the wounds suggested exactly that. One of the two fell and dragged the other to their death most likely.
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>>214292755
But did they summit. I doubt they could’ve gone up the second step that late
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>>214290948
Based
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>>214293508
Most people think they summited. Why? Because Mallory stated he always carried a photo of his wife to put on it and no such photo was found when they found his body. Also Mallory had his goggles stashed away which would have only been reasonable at night. They also made it to the 2nd (or 3rd) step by 1pm or so so it's possible they continued up, hit it late in the afternoon and tried to return int he evening. They should have turned around, a lot of tragic Everest stories begin with late summits.
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>>214290525
mysterious? maybe if you’re 12
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>>214290510
>Movie about first female soldier in the American Revolution. She even did surgery on herself to avoid getting caught ad has a body count.

Or

>2 white guys die on a mountain cause they're retarded enough to climb it at night

I can safely agree with anon that Hollywood has more and arguably better material to work with first
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>>214293683
>photo
he could've just placed it at the highest point they reached and then turned around.
>Also Mallory had his goggles stashed away which would have only been reasonable at night
this doesnt prove they reached the summit either, just that they were returning late. or they were the backup pair and he lost his when he fell
>they made it to the 2nd step
that is if you believe odell actually saw them from camp 5 and that he remembered the exact spot years after the expedition. and if he saw them between the 1st and 2nd step at 1PM, they were WAY behind to make the summit before dark. 2PM is the modern turnaround time, and thats with a known path, modern equipment and the path already having guideropes set up AND ladders to climb the 1st, 2nd and 3rd step

igonoring all that, weather records and air pressure reports from that day would mean the summit would've been inside the jetstream too.
I love the story, its a very epic story if they reached the summit, but there just is no way.
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>>214293823
>2 white guys die on a mountain cause they're retarded enough to climb it at night
Everyone climbs everest during the night on the summit bid retard. You have to start at night if you want to summit during the day and get back down
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They made a movie on Everest last year or this about Americans who basically made the same mistakes. Bad weather, late summit, dragging stragglers along the way, ended up dying on the way back down due to lack of energy, oxygen, and the weather. But then wow epic! one of the half-frozen guys woke back up the following day and managed to walk back to camp and eventually was rescue via heli lost both his hands and some other shit due to frostbite.
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>>214294682
I think you're mixing it up
the guy who froze forn the entire night, woke up in the morning and got back to camp was in 1996
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>>214294718
Yeah that's what I meant. It's a different movie about Americans but it's not all that far off what the story OP wants would be. Expedition leader and a few others all died. Only difference is they had radios to be able to communicate what was going on most of the way rather than it being a "wow epic mystery!!!"
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>>214291061
Fecal golems are woman coded.
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>>214294764
the 1996 disaster isnt even that much of a mystery. It was 100% preventable if the people stuck to the established rules.
Without the Russian dude there, the deaths would've been much higher.
>dude at 2pm, turn around, even if you're 3 steps from the summit
>same dude decides to stay at the summit for 3 hours and starts going down at 5pm
The Mallory and Irvine bid for the summit is more special because they were the first ones to try and went into a complete unknown. They didnt even know if humans could survive on the summit at that point.
it took 75 years to even know what exactly happened to them
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>>214293823
>first female soldier
>american revolution
literal retard. also, as the other anon pointed out. you know nothing about climbing everest
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>>214295024
What's to know? There's no point in climbing up there and anyone who does is a self important retard who deserves to be freeze dried.
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>>214290357
They found mallory tho. Perfectly preserved in the death zone.
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>>214290357
I can’t believe the fucking bugs threw irvines body off of mt Everest and have the disappeared his boot that found last year?

If it has rocks from the peak embedded in the soles it can show that the brits climbed Everest first so the bugs are really trying to not let anyone examine it I imagine.

Fucking chink shits.
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>>214295149
the story of them throwing him off was from before they found his boot last year
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>>214292271
True I hope to one day get to climb Everest from the chinese side but its looking less and less likely due to the coming economic and population crash in the west.
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>>214295099
we'd accomplish absolutely fucking nothing if the world was full of you specifically. it doesn't matter what's up there. can a human do it? well, we did. you've lost the drive that made us what we are. go live in the woods for a bit and get a fucking clue
>HURR HRUR WHATS EVEN UP DAYR
100% chance it wont be your fat ass anytime soon. you'll rot away with no memories of this calibre. you better hope there's an afterlife cause I can tell you haven't lived down here. ngmi
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>>214294718
This annoying jew needs to sit down and shut the fuck up. I can’t believe that people actually listen to this retard.
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>>214295218
He's not jewish and he's one of the few who did absolutely 0 wrong on that day. The guy had frostbite basically everywhere after spending a night in the snow during the harshest snowstorm of the season and still insisted they helivac everyone else first
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>>214295185
Ok and? They still threw him off the top.

Some chink slanteyed fuck from the bug military went “a i ree whyte man i throw rim off big rountain!”

FUCK YOU
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>>214295252
The people who passed him on the way down repeatedly tried to get him to come with them but he wanted to stand still and freeze instead.

Its pure luck that he even survived the night because it’s completely understandable why they rescued others instead of him because the state he was in.
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>>214295302
He was told to wait for Hall. That wasnt his fault. He was one of the rare people that was qualified to be on everest, he just had bad luck that he went blind.
He did the 7 summitsmjmxj
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>>214295259
>>214295149
>they threw him off the top
Mallory had a rope tied to him and wounds around his waist that suggested both him and Irvine were roped together and one of them fell. Mallory had his one leg severely broken below the knee cap from the fall. Irvine likely broke his legs as well. The glacier literally consumed him and grinded his body which is why the foot was found by itself once it melted. The only reason they even found his boot is because they went and looked where Irvine should have fell had he kept falling down the north face beyond where Mallory ended up and what do you know, his boot was roughly in the right spot they expected.
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>>214295259
We dont know that. The faggot who made that claim said so many contradictory statements.
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alright faggots
Empty Everest, no other climbers except your team or K2?
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>>214295782
half the risk of everest is long ass queues, the mountain has been optimised so much in terms of route and timing that the only real risks are you and/or some random storm
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>>214295887
not in the khumbu, and avalanches are still a thing
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>>214295391
Stop sucking chink cock.
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>>214296716
its because of the chinks we even found Mallory
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>>214297738
>Wang spots Mallory's body in 1960s
>tells nip about it
>very next day Wang is killed in an avalanche
>body continues to be undiscovered for 30 more years
coincidence?
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>>214290357
It's been in development with diff sets of actors. They've all aged out, and the young ones now can be blown away by the wind.
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>The image shows the 47-year-old mother-of-one bravely smiling for the camera, her shattered leg stabilised with a spare tent pole. At the time, hopes were still high that she could be saved.

>Incredibly, Natalia survived for almost a week after the photograph - first published by Izvestia - was taken with Italian climber Luca Sinigaglia.

>In that time, she endured freezing winds and temperatures plunging to minus 20C. One week later, she was even spotted waving to a drone.

>But despite her extraordinary fight for life, rescuers were unable to get a helicopter capable of reaching her altitude.

>Mostly, the weather was too severe - but critics insist there were small windows when she might have been reached, if an aircraft and crew had been ready.

>Instead, attempts were made to climb to her position. But rescuers were twice turned back, once by a storm and once when their team leader was injured.
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>>214298200
did she break her leg on the summit?
I mean then sure, if she's above the step there's 0 chance to get her down
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>>214295214
What the fuck do you accomplish by following in the footsteps of someone else who's already climbed the mountain?
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>>214298306
She broke her leg 7000 meters up Victory Peak and the mountain is as deadly as Annapurna with 30% mortality.
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>>214298200
>some guy goes to her to give her a sleeping bag
>dies
>rescue attempts on foot are called off indefinitely, leading to her death
Did some retard actually inadvertently kill her while trying to help? Lmao jesus.
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>>214292271
It's cool that there are routes up K2 that have only been done once because they're so dangerous
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What is the most dangerous mountain? K2, Annapurna, Broad Peak, or another?
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1967 mt McKinley disaster would make a good movie
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We need to figure out how to make diving as kino as climbing
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>>214295782
An empty Everest is piece of cake compared to K2. The only thing Everest has over K2 is some additional height so you spend a little more time in the death-zone compared to K2.

K2 and Annapurna are bitch mountains that will kill you.
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>>214298825
K2 by far. Annapurna second.
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I think Americans should name all mountains and bodies of water across the globe.
>Annapurna
Perfect example, it sounds like a disgusting Indian shit pile. Fucking disgusting. It shouldn't even be typed or discussed without an American-approved name.
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>>214299566
I'm glad ""Denali"" got renamed to Mount McKinley. Just sounds more distinguished
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>>214298422
man thats brutal
>>214298566
when you're up there if you cant move on your own you're dead.
Even if you stop to help it can cost you. Your limbs freeze, they stop working etc.
Some climber described the sensation in the death zone to be trying to move your leg and it takes 10 seconds for it to start moving.
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>>214298825
K2 is more dangerous but like Everest its become commercialised. the 1/4 deathrate is very outdated now.
The reason why K2 isnt as popular is because you cant just get there as easy as you can with Everest.
its a multiple days walk trough a glacier with 0 roads before you even get to basecamp
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>>214299853
>Some climber described the sensation in the death zone to be trying to move your leg and it takes 10 seconds for it to start moving.
It's because retards don't take oxygen much anymore
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>>214299916
of course they do, where have you heard that?
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>>214292465
They were likely the first men to scale Everest in the 1920s but they died on the way down so the mystery is whether they beat Tenzing Norgsy and enmond Hillary.
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>>214299944
I'm at K2 basecamp right now
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>>214290357
>still no KINO related to them
Are you joking? One of the climbers literally shot a documentary of their ascent in 1924 with a film camera he lugged up the mountain, it's called The Epic of Everest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xxnKSPOXK8
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>>214295214
>we'd accomplish absolutely fucking nothing if the world was full of you specifically.
None of that shit matters when you stupid white fuckers just give all your knowledge and technology away to any and every brown eyed shitskin you can. Look at your nations. You're allowing any and everyone to colonize you, and they will soon outbreed you and destroy you. You have the weapons to defend yourselves, but you don't. It's like YOU are the slave race of the planet.
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>>214298371
>>214293823
>>214295099
these post stink of shit-colored curryniggers
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>>214300027
there is no internet at K2 basecamp retard
go to bed Ryan
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>>214295149
>and have the disappeared his boot that found
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>>214290357
If you want to make a mountain mystery, why not do something with Kholat?
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did she deserve her fate?
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>>214300045
Nice.
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>>214300243
who said i was white? I am, but thanks for seething without even knowing that. also, thanks for speaking english
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>>214290357
There is no mystery.
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>>214294718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u4iTBQNlrw
he's a great storyteller
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>>214290525
He saw behind the veil. The Apollo astronauts found the grid that keeps human souls trapped on Earth, and the Moon is crucial to that. That's why they were so shaken at the press conference about the greatest achievement in human history. They found it was a sham, we're all trapped on a prison planet by horrific beings, beyond our perceptions.
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>>214290357
They made it to the top and China covered it up
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They walked into Heaven and God was there shaking his head in disappointment that they died trying to walk up a mountain
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>>214300270
There is over satellite
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>>214300907
post crampon on head fag
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>>214292788
kek
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>>214300940
Why would I do that
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>>214298200
me on the right
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tfw your corpse becomes a world famous progress marker
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>>214301139
he got thrown off years ago.
look up Hannelore Schmatz
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>>214301171
>he got thrown off years ago.
Unsurprisingly by the Chinese too
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>>214300797
If the Camera is recovered the People's Republic will collapse
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>>214301139
Why'd they hide his corpse? He's iconic.
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>>214301458
respect I suppose
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any kinos about retards dying doing this stuff or similar?
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Michael Tracy's entire channel is devoted to this event and also to debunking John Kikeauer's error-strewn and narcissistic account of the '96 tragedy and its complete kino

https://www.youtube.com/@michaeltracy2356
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>>214301493
>chinese
>respect
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>>214301171
>look up Hannelore Schmatz
>Hannelore Schmatz initially didn't plan to go to the summit, but decided to do so shortly after her husband began making his way down the day before. On the same expedition was the American Ray Genet, who also died while descending from the summit. Exhausted from the climb, they had stopped to bivouac at 28,000 feet (8,500 m) as the night approached, despite their Sherpa guides urging them not to stop. Ray Genet died later that night and both the Sherpa and Schmatz were distressed, but decided to continue their descent. Then at 27,200 feet (8,300 m) Schmatz sat down, said "Water, Water" to her Sherpa and died.[6][8] Sungdare Sherpa, one of the Sherpa guides, remained with her body, and as a result, lost most of his fingers and toes.[9]
>In October 1984, police inspector Yogendra Bahadur Thapa, 36, and his guide, Ang Dorjee, 35, fell to their death while trying to recover Schmatz's body on a Nepalese police expedition.[14][15]
>Sungdare drowned in a river below his village, Pangboche, Nepal in 1989.[2]
What an absolute cluster fuck.
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>>214290948
>t. starts posts with "I love how"
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>>214301724
thats the deathzone for you
you sit down, you stay there forever
look up david sharp
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>>214301724
because it's there
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I'm happy the Chinese are kicking the bodies down the slopes where they can decompose into the glaciers. Leaving them up high where they are just frozen permanently is just a form of litter and disgusting. Imagine an alien race comes to earth someday and goes to our highest peaks only to find it littered with the bodies of rich assholes with more money than brains. Not to mention there's literal shit everywhere along the camp routes. Disgusting.
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>>214301926
Why aren't they kicking the shit down the slope?
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>>214301959
It's a lot easier to rocket a body down a slope than a tiny pile of shit that likely will just get stuck immediately again. Nepal announced last year they were going to finally start to try to clean up the mountain from the shit and bodies but then they also keep letting on record number of people attempt to go up them so I doubt their efforts will work out. It's way too profitable of a business for them.
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>>214301926
they arent kicking them down. Most of the time they're just thrown out of sight
You dont really have much of a choice where to throw them
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>>214301817
>Sharp's body remains on the mountain, but was removed from sight in 2007.
Oh well that's good at least nobody has to look at him.
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>gets hired as a job
>does it without oxygen
>calls out the horrible idea of letting non-mountaineers climb everest
>summits before everyone
>goes back
>while everyone cowers in the tents he goes out 3 times saving people
He was a total chad, nature herself had to take him out to nerf him
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>>214290948

Stop spamming this, retard. It isn't humorous. It's not a meme. And you're a faggot.
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>>214298200
mountain-climbing must be great for necrophiles with all these dead women available to fuck.
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>>214302227
>>214302227
>retard
>faggot
Low self-esteem indicator
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>>214302409
pull up your dick up there and it falls off
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>wait 3 hours because everyone wants to take a selfie
>get 35 seconds at the summit before the next guy is yelling at you to hurry it up
>"that will be 2 fingers to frostbite, plus tip."
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>>214302913
it's a white people thing you wouldn't get it
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always cheers me up when I get a news alert about some richfag execs dying doing stupid stuff like this
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>>214302913
>>wait 3 hours because everyone wants to take a selfie
That's really not the issue. First of all even with the "ropes" up everest is no joke. It takes serious training to actually do and unfortunately a lot of guide companies will let rich people up who simply don't have the training. Even then it's still no walk in the park. You can't speed run it. There's also a lot of bottlenecks where you can't just push your way around people. like in your pic. Also once you're above the death zone your body is literally breaking down and dying every second you're up there. That's why staying too long is almost certain death.
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>>214303242
>It takes serious training to actually do
>a lot of guide companies will let rich people up who simply don't have the training.
what
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>>214302980
its mostly an indian thing these days
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>>214290948
TRUTH NUKE
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>>214302913
what's in their backpacks
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>>214303284
To actually summit requires actual physical training and skills
Guide companies often will let richfags who don't have the training come along for the price.
These richfags in turn slow down the entire assent for everyone else
Comphrendo?
Most of them won't make it to the summit unless they are very lucky anyway, but they will slow down everyone else and put everyone else at risk.
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>>214303343
>you need training to summit
>but people who don't have training summit all the time
ok sounds like you don't need training
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>>214290357
They discovered 5 compasses and all 5 were missing the flux capacitor. How does that happen?
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>>214303391
Fuck off retard.
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>>214303471
I'm gonna go jerk off on the second step and mess up a whole day of climbing for everybody. It won't be hard to get up there, you literally just climb a couple ladders lol.
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>>214303506
le epic troll man!!! don't forget to tag us in the reddit post
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>>214303506
I found a map of where I'm going to shit all over the trail before just walking back down the ladder. Here at cross 2.
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>>214303308
Souvenirs from the gift shop.
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>>214303308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE7GqQtkKGs
He has an entire playlist show his entire Everest trip. He's doing K2 as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDYZr8Uz2rE
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>>214302191
Cool dude never heard of him til now
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>>214303575
the wind will most likely blow that shit off immediatly. he can also go up trough the south route
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>>214302046
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>>214304066
what if shit on the ladder
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>>214304576
your fat ass wouldnt even make it to basecamp
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>>214304718
Anybody can do it. A group of sherpas carry you to the base of the ladder and all you have to do is pretend to climb it while they haul you up on a rope. Then you take a selfie at the top and maybe die on the way down. It isn't hard just expensive.
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>>214300623
>zoidberg is real
i knew it.
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>>214299853
She lost her husband on ,you guess, a mountain climb four years ago. Luca Sinigaglia and Günter Sigmund left her food, warm clothes, a sleeping bag, a mat, two burners, gas for melting snow. Sinigaglia died from hypothermia and Sigmund is in serious condition at hospital. Two groups of alpinists tried to save her, a Kyrgyz helicopter crash-landed with injuries, a second attempt was called off because of a back injury for a Russian alpinist.
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>>214298566
Kyrgyz authorities don't even count alpinist deaths on Victory peak. It's estimated that 80 people died climbing the mountain.
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>>214302980
Yeah, its stupid as fuck
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>>214292788
see thats why they wear helmets now
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>>214304934
Sometimes people just cant be saved.
I hate these indian climbers who demand their bodies get recovered from the deathzone by sherpas.
These fucks want to summit for bragging rights while never attempting even a fucking molehill then they die en masse above 8k
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>>214293573
I just realized what’s so uncanny about Andrew “What Color’s Your Dad?” Tate. He looks like an especially committed FtM tranny. Like what Ellen Page was shooting for, but fell short of.
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>>214295907
If you climb from nepal with the snitskin hordes you are suicidal and your death should be spat upon.
>>214301541
The movie about the 96 disaster is pretty good imo

Lots of good documentaries on YouTube about everest as well
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>>214302016
Record numbers of indians every year. Imagine queuing on top of the world in a line of 500 street shitters that are constantly dying and shitting all over the place wtf.
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>>214302191
I never understood why he got so much shit but it must be because that bitch talked shit about him before any of them got back to civilisation so the story was already told and nothing could undo what had been said.

He is the only good guy in the story.
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>>214302913
At least you get to film some indians dying on the way to the top and remember to not try to save them because it’s not worth risking a White life for a street shitter.
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>>214304576
Your bussy will get frozen to the ladder and it will require gender reassignment surgery to get you off of the ladder again.
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>>214290357
>greatest mystery
Its been solved like every mystery ever
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>>214305784
Have they tried using a cup of warm water?
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>>214305818
It doesn’t work like that. You gon be a woman.
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>>214301724
>Then at 27,200 feet (8,300 m) Schmatz sat down, said "Water, Water" to her Sherpa and all the boards did shrink. Water, water everywhere nor any drop to drink.
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>>214306089
Its like newtons law up there
Things in motion stay in motion
You stop, you die. David Sharpe is a prime example of that. But fuck, that guy did everything wrong for how experienced he was
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>>214302191
Boukreev was one of the greatest alpinists ever, a Russian from Kazakhstan. He saved three people on Everest. Idiot Krakauer smeared him his book.
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>>214290357
They didn't make it.

>>214291855
Katabatic winds fucked them.
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>>214306909
>a Russian from Kazakhstan
So he's not Russian then?
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>>214307162
He's Russian.
>t. Kazakh.
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>>214291459
Looks like a woman
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>>214294900
I feel like niggas like to climb powerlines/telephone poles and twerk or whatever before getting zapped off to their death.
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>>214295214
summiting Everest was cool back in the day but it's more of a status check today. I'm not going to fawn over everyone rich enough to afford a try, the other anon sounds retarded but you're no better.
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https://youtu.be/a4eLT6Rkpdg
>the men were found frozen to death upright bracing against the wind
Kinomnrtd
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>>214294884
>first ones to try
How do we know other people didn't try in the past and were just not recorded doing so though? I mean it's a big mountain, surely some people gave it a try over the thousands of years we've seen it.
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>>214307966
based on lowland weather data collected, that the weather the seven climbers still on the high slopes on Denali faced may have been the worst conditions experienced by any mountaineers on record
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>>214307985
>1907, Yoshitaro Shibasaki and his team successfully climbed Mount Tsurugi, which was regarded as the last unclimbed mountain in Japan. However, they found a metal cane decoration and a sword on the top of the mountain, and it turned out that someone had reached the top before them. A later scientific investigation revealed that the metal cane decoration and sword dated from the late Nara period to the early Heian period and that shugenja had climbed Mount Tsurugi more than 1,000 years ago.[11]
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>>214302586
eh, take photos for later then I guess
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>>214308041
kek ty anon, this is a great story. I always like to imagine the crazy stuff retards in the distant past got up to that was forgotten forever afterwards.
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>>214290955
Whether they made it to the top or not.
More than likely they didn't.

>>214306909
Bullshit. He was critical but fair and he stated all the raguments for and against. It's false equivalence to say it's definitely one or the other. The book is amazing.
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Antarctic Heroic Age> every single other area and period of exploration combined
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>>214299566
nah, USA peaks often have retarded names like Bloody Dick or too literal like Ugly Mountain. Even when the names are borrowed from other cultures they still manage to pick the worst ones, I mean the Teton Range is literally the Titty Range in French.
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>>214301651
>Tracy
The radical Mallory truther sending death threats to anyone rightfully doubting his pet theory about the fairytale climb in 1924? I'd rather take Krakauer's book. It's actually an amazingly written account and he doesn't hide his arrogance. Hell he even writes about conservative Beck Weathers BTFOing him in political discussions.
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>>214304234
what is wrong with me that I want to buy that just to see how my cat would react ...
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Robert Falcon Scott is another fun one. Even better because they weren't even first, and the group that beat them and trashed the place made the whole trip look easy.
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>>214308450
In reality, Amundsen took a gamble. Several in fact and it worked out in the end. Scott's system was different, it wasn't a simple dash to the pole but a big all-encompassing expedition where the trek to the pole was just one of its goals. I love the Terra Nova Expedition. Best story and best people were involved in it. I'm glad all the unfair assessments are straight up lies are disappearing now.
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>>214308128
Krakauer had been asleep in his tent while Boukreev rescued three climbers. That's all that matters.
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>>214291855
people hike that pass every summer and there's nothing to it. it's part of a huge park/trail system in the Urals. Only a moron would hike it in the dead of winter.
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>>214308741
He was barely alive. Not his job to do more than survive as a non-guide. I'm glad I don't need to take sides in this fake conflict that some people believe exists. Perhaps it's his fault that he wrote a really good and gripping book.
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>>214308868
Krakauer is kinda on my shit list for the introduction to the book about the Brusilov expedition that repeats debunked myths about Captain Scott. His book is great I'm glad I don't need to care about the accuracy of tiny details that can't be verified with 100% accuracy.
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>>214290357
There is no source material to work off. The entire movie/show would just be a buildup to the climb. Then completely fan-fiction of what happened, and then fan-fiction of their deaths
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>>214301771
gottem
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>>214309055
The Wildest Dream movie shows Mallory leaving his wife's photo. That's super fan fictiony. Him turning back and dying in darkness without suceeding would be super anticlimactic even though it's very likely true and to me there's nothing wrong with this simple ending.
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>>214294682
>>214294764
Anon you're thinking of Everest (2015)
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What makes these 2 dudes dying on the mountain more mysterious than the countless others? Because their bodies weren't entirely found?
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>>214290525
They’re beyond you. A conception of space and time in scales you cannot fathom. Cannot ever take into yourself wholly and fully; you’ll never understand them. Theirs, on the other hand, IS understanding. An experience of the movements of the world itself. Think of the things these mountains have witnessed things: the birth of the world, the rise and fall of countless empires. Eons and the flap of a butterfly’s wings are equivalent to them. You can feel that when you stand before them. The secrets they’ll never reveal, and those that they might yield up to a special few. And only in whispers. Old and titanic. Big in a way that only gods are big, before them you rightly tremble at your recognition of your insignificance in the face of the universe moving and shifting, giving birth to itself and killing itself again and again and again. The earth shattering snap! like giant bone of an avalanche releasing from their side. Screams of mind-shattering silence reaching out and capturing all who gaze upon them. And memory…memory of stories you’ll never know but it still seems like they’re constantly trying to tell you drifting out from every rock-face. Mind and spirit drifting, the lure you in with the softest windswept whispers off their peaks saying, “come and die.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEizKmZlUAw&pp=ygUZaGVhbGluZyBtb3VudGFpbiB3YXJkcnVuYQ%3D%3D
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>>214310389
Is this a quote
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>>214290357
I call this The Reverse Nutty Putty.
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>>214310425
I cribbed the “before them you rightly tremble” from Red Dragon lol but otherwise I just thought it up.
Nothing special, just wanted to entertain /tv / bros.

Expand some /tv/ minds,
BIG TIME
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>>214310439
Yttup Yttun
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>>214301817
Not me, I'd sit down to smoke a cigar while laughing at all the tryhards. Then get up again and tackle them all as I briskly jogged up the summit. Then slide down all the way using green boots as my sled.
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>>214290948
you're getting hated on for this but you're 100% right
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>>214291459
I can understand the first ones, the pioneers, the crazy bastards that dared go where nobody had ever been before. But now? Wby do it? Why risk your life if you're not pushing the limits of mankind?
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>>214310862
Bragging rights, that's all there is to it.
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>>214310862
Now you understand why nobody bothers to send manned missions to the moon anymore
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>>214291061
>white
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>>214295188
and they say wumaos aren't funny
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>>214310224
Class this is what being a peak midwit liberal looks like.

Notice how he has the brain capacity to understand the fundamentals of the discussion but lacks the intelligence to fully understand the nuances of it.

Take notes this WILL be on the test on Tuesday.
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>>214294900
based

Climbing mountains is fucking retarded. It's just guys feeling the urge to go on a dangerous adventure, but it's the dumbest most pointless adventure. It's a behavioural evolutionary trap, the instincts that pushed men of the past to achieve great things by taking risks is now getting people killed so they can take a shot at achieving fuck all. No one cares if you climbed the K2 on the northern route, it doesn't matter, it's a non-achievement on par with deadlifting 4 plates, no one cares, it's not special. If anything people look down on you for littering mountains with your frozen carcass. It's funny though that retards who aren't in control of their life because they must follow their urges are dying.
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>>214310747
Would you also hell “woah mama” and pull off your hat revealing a voluptuous blonde hairdo when you reached basecamp and saw some hot White climber girls?
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>>214295214
What do we accomplish with a world full of mountain climbers?
>nooo I must climb the tallest most dangerous mountain I can
>dies young trying to achieve nothing
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>>214300045
27 minutes in
holy CUTE
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>>214313004
WERE CLOIMBIN EVEREST DONKEHHH
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>>214308093
>used to break ice cubes with my elbows
>got within 5 inches of the jcvd splits
Think of all the dumb crazy stuff you get up to in your own life that will be forgotten after you die.
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>>214312754
It's addition by subtraction. The world is a better place with these douchebags freeze dried to the side of a cliff somewhere.
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>>214308726
>scott was rebuked for taking ponies to the artic
>they were siberian ponies used to hard work in -20C/-4f
Scott made mistakes but they weren't stupid mistakes, just underestimations of the severity of conditions his team would face.
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>>214313591
amen to that
we need more rich retards to kill themselves in stupid ways
it's entertaining
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>>214308041
>>214308093
Ancient mountain climbers are pretty cool.
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>>214307985
Because with history if you didnt write it down, it sadly didnt happen.
The Sherpas consider the mountain holy so even letting the british set foot on it was a big deal that they needed special rituals and permission.
Its super remote, nothing grows there, nobody can love at the base of everest for long without a constant flow of supplies.
Without mountaineering equipment you wouldnt even get past the khumbu icefall
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>>214308741
I don’t particularly like Krakauer, but thats a very poor comparison
Boukareev has been resting in camp 4 for hours at that point. Krakauer just arrived back. No sane person would walk into that storm once they just barely survived it once.
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>>214290948
Truth. It's also an annoying trait.
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>>214312754
THEIR ANCESTORS SMILE ON THEM IMPERIAL !!
CAN YOU SAY THE SAME ?!
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>>214298200
Who was that one bitch who ignored the expert's advice and died a deserved death? Think the story got famous at some point
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>>214307162
If a cat gives birth to kittens in a pigsty, are these kittens pigs?
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>>214308329
cat?
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>>214317457
which mountain was that?
maybe sandy pittman, but she did come back down
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>>214318805
i think its rain
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They should use explosives to "remodel"the mountain each year. Like you know how games can have seasonal maps. Keep things fresh.
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>>214317457
Is she the one who shouted "I'm an American!" to passing climbers?
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>>214319060
Oh yeah that was it, who was she?
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>>214319170
Francys Arsentiev
>Tried to be the first woman climber to Everest without bringing oxygen tanks
>End up oxygen-deprived on the way down
>Became incapacitated
>Her husband died trying to save her
>She also died
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>>214319310
Well technically it was a success I guess
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>>214290510
>And it would have to feature two whites. Nobody's touching this.
Not at all. They can easily portray the Whites as arrogant imperialists with no respect for the mountain nor any regard for the dangers they face and dismissive of the wise locals who will warn them and give them precious insight.
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>>214319042
thats what happened with the Hillary step on everest.
the problem is two sided though, it removed the main bottleneck on the mountain, but it also removed the only technically difficult part of the climb meaning more tourists can just walk up there
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>>214319310
>Francys Arsentiev
oh her. I feel like thats a bit of a stretch. Yeah she was doing something dumb, but that was the main objective. get up there without oxygen.
Unlike most people on the mountain she was an unironic elite climber, her husband too.
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I don't think tit should count as climbing the mountain if you die on the way down. It's kind of implied in "can do a thing" that you don't de in order to achieve it.
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>>214319701
it doesnt count if you die on the way down. Thats why the debate about Mallory summiting is a big nothingburger.
Hillary was the first even if Mallory got to the top in 24
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wtf i literally thought climbing deaths stopped happening post 1960s.. how, given the improved skill of every profession/hobby and modern day equipment, etc., do people still fucking die on mountains?
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>>214313620
The weather was abnormal that season and there were other aspects outside of his control. He didn't make more mistakes than others. Shackleton on Nimrod was one blizzard away from death but necause of luck he's not considered a reckless failure.
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How would you climb Trango Tower?
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>>214319918
Amundsen lived with the inuits for 2 years to learn how they survive in conditions like that.
He adapted, scott tried to brute force it. He brought ponies and untested motor sledges.
Amundsen used the dogs for transport and for food
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>>214319918
On Everest the only people that die are the Sherpas because they are on the mountain so often lugging shit up for the boomers and old unfit boomers that had no business being there.
Last time I checked the last non sherpa or boomer to die was a retarded pajeet that tried to summit with no supplemental oxygen.
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The summit of Cerro Torre in Chile is notoriously difficult because it's permanently covered in a mushroom cap of ice. Herzog made Scream of Stone about climbers attempting it.
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>>214294900
This pic always gets posted by losers who never leave their rooms
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>>214305481
holy mother of projection
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>>214298846
>At 8 p.m. on July 17, a storm hit the upper slopes of the mountain, with wind speeds later estimated by the National Weather Service to have approached 300 mph (480 km/h) near the summit.
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>>214303343
>Comphrendo?
what the fuck
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>Dying on the way down, the easy part.
Why didn't they all just take parachutes?
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>>214320342
>with wind speeds later estimated by the National Weather Service to have approached 300 mph (480 km/h) near the summit
That was about the same time researchers thought wind speeds inside a tornado were close to supersonic so I wouldn't put too much faith in their estimate
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>>214302913
learned my lesson when I did Fuji. if it's a popular mountain, you're in for a miserable experience.
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>>214319953
Scott also had dogs and skis and was aware Norwegians were better at using them. From his perspective the expedition wasn't conceptualized as a race or a dash.
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>>214320515
>gets swept up into the atmosphere never to be seen again
i think a wingsuit would work better, or even a paraglider for the matter
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>>214320515
Going down is the hard part
>used up your energy, or most of it
>it’s naturally more difficult going down a hill than up
>later in the day its warmer so more prone to accidents due to the snow melting
Also most people put the goal of summitting in their mind, so psychologically they think they’re done once they reach the top
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>>214321010
When in the arctic speed is life. The longer you stay the worse your chances are
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>>214319929
three steps forward, two to the right, repeat
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>>214321042
>use either
>strong gust of wind
>slams your retarded ass against the mountain and kills you instantly
nothing personnel
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>>214320515
what about that guy that snowboarded down everest (and then died trying it a second time)
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>>214321138
live fast, die faster
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>>214321042
>use a wingsuit in the jetstream
Do it fag
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>>214299566
>Mt. Ashlee
>Mt. Rusty
>Mt. Scooter III
>Mt. DaShawn
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>>214308041
Lol it's only 6000 feet. I could do that in a day hike.
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>>214302527
>Low self-esteem indicator
Low self-esteem indicator
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>>214309277
His wife's photo being missing, the goggles in his pocket and the missing camera all point to him summitting. He gave the camera to Irvine. When do you give someone a camera? When you want them to take a photo of you. The Chinese found Irvine's body and disposed of it in the 70s. They probably have the camera and fucked up the film exposure. It's all about saving face in their culture.
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>>214303506
THE DEATH STRANDING
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>>214313004
That donkey is probably dead now.
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>>214323492
We don't even know what camera he had on his person. And Irvine. I think even one camera he supposedly had was actually left behind becuse we have photos taken with it. So far we have no samples of rocks collected near the summit and I don't think there's any conspiracy or pro-Hillary lobby working against revealing the truth.
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>>214323692
in the end it doesnt matter, getting to the summit is the halfway point
Hillary said it would be fantastic if they could prove that Mallory and Irvine reached the summit, and George's own son said that even if he did, he didnt make the full round trip and it wouldn't count
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>>214324077
There have been some first summits that ended in death of at least some of the climbers (winter Broad Peak for example). Or for example new routes. It happens. It doesn't make the effort entirely invalid. Hillary was asked, I think as early as 1953, if he saw traces of Mallory. Of course he didn't even if he had made it it would be very difficult to spot something unless they left something large like a theodolite which is something that later Everest expditions did leave behind. And also notes.
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>>214324561
It would’ve been impossible for hillary to see traces of Mallory because hillary climbed the south side trough nepal while mallory went up trough tibet on the north side
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>>214300243
>an unironic shitskin

A fate worse than death. Imagine having one life and you have to spend it as a brown skinned beast, you have my pity
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>>214324642
Got heem
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>>214323359
Don't forget your lion repellent and extra socks.
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>>214321138
beats suffocating to death
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>>214324642
On the top. Climbers do leave things on the top and they get later picked up by other climbers who bring them down. It's like a system of mutual verification. Sometimes they're flags, pickaxes, notes, scientific instruments, souvenirs.
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>>214290948
KEK so true
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>>214324822
I seriously doubt something would last up there for 30 years.
The mountain changes every season as is
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>>214320515
Why didn't they just fly the eagles to the top?



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