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I miss when superhero movies were intelligent
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>>214294011
>Dude the universe and DNA all just kinda happened lmao
Man I don't miss being a teenager
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Thats not true when you consider post mortal eternity and the gift of free will
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anon that quote is copypasted from the greeks
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>>214294087
yeah but did he really have to make cancer, malaria, and brain aneurysms, though?
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>>214294011
>capeslop
grow up
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>>214294122
He didn't, Adam and Eve chose to Side with Satan. God had to buy back their rebellion; by sinning Adam and Eve deserved death but God had to save their children from eternal death, hence the Ransom of Jesus.
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>>214294142
>I willingly came onto a Hoboken Basket Weaving Forum to complain about the weaving of baskets
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This is all because his dad molested him and he blamed child Superman for not saving him.
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>>214294011
He should have gotten an Oscar for this performance.

Fuck the haters.
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Superhero movies are just childrens movies. My question is: Do you think they started making less intelligent children's movies because children are less intelligent, or are children less intelligent due to lack of intellectual stimulation?

Either way, I blame parents
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Say what you want but the visual tone of this vs the overly comical gay new superman is night and day. This looks good vs the childrens daytime cartoon the new superman gives off.
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>>214294209
The wanking of a nihilist. Ewww
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>>214294268
No argument here. New Superman is a gay dufus.
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>>214294169
100% wrong
Adam and Eve were never kicked out of Heaven, that is a lie. They choose to left the Eden Garden to go populate the Earth as God wanted. The fruit people are refering was the act of sleeping and mating with non-human, wich Eve did and wasn't supposed to do. That all happened on Earth, God still love us tho.
YES I KNOW CHURCH TELL YOU THEY ATE THE APPLE AND GOT KICKED OUT BUT THAT HAS BEEN A LIE TO SHAME AND CONTROL HUMANS FOR CENTURIES.
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>>214294305
They were kicked out, hence the angels and the spinning sword protecting the entrance.. They were meant to procreate only they sinned before they did. The fruit, nowhere does it say which fruit, represented them submitting to God's sovereignty.
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>>214294011
>I am 14 and this is deep
Lex in the new movie gives a better speech in every way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW9uDub2yv4
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>>214294209
a scene so bad seth rogen called it antisemitic, awful luthor
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>>214294105
>>214294011

Its a paraphrase of an ancient philosophy question "can God create a stone so large that he himself can not lift it"
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>>214294417
Yes.
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>>214294417
Can God create a stone so large he has to recreate himself as a man and then die to lift it?
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>>214294492
God and Jesus are two different beings.
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>>214294011
peak 14 years old midwit from r/atheism
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People discovered better kino.
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>6th grade philosophy class
>intelligent
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>>214294520
this statement places you as a heretic against ~95% of christendom. pretty much only mormons and some american baptists or jehovah's witnesses would agree with you on this.
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>>214294550
Where's Man of Steel 2?
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>>214294417
Can he? Can Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he himself cannot touch it?
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>>214294047
>we don't know the origin of the universe
>therefore jewish mythology
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>>214294589
Mormons and Jehovah witnesses aren't Christian.
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>>214294011
>than
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>>214294589
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>>214294589
>>214294692
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>>214294692
Depending on who you ask, neither are Roman Catholics.
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GOOD MORNING SIRS
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>>214294723
Take it up with the Council of Nicea you fucking apostate.
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>>214294692
>>214294589
You've allowed a typo to blind you
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>>214294520
but the trinity is one
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>>214294750
Typo found in first of John? Use the William Tymdale version released 15 years before the flawed King James.
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>>214294757
I think your magic underwear is too tight.
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>>214294775
There is no such thing

>>214294789
Read the Bible
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>>214294782
They're both protestant trash more concerned with shilling a political position than the Word of God.
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>>214294811
What does the Bible say about using screenshots from jewgle?
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>>214294268
>vs the childrens daytime cartoon the new superman gives off
I got bad news for you about Superman...
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>>214294819
I hope they come to read the Bible and discover a wonderful world.

>>214294842
I posted data, nothing more.
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>>214294268
flying batman was not superman
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>>214294011
This shit reminded me of that Die Hard sequel where the retard writer has to try to make Jeremy Irons seem intelligent like Hans Gruber - because he's supposed to be his brother.

So he gives John McClane riddles that every schoolkid knows. Culminating in Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson standing in a fountain like a couple of doofuses trying to milk drama out of filling jugs with water.
>yeah, pour that water!
>don't spill it!
ffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vdF6NASMiE

If writer was intelligent he could have took a similar idea made something out of it, but just regurgitating this sophomoric shit just makes Lex look as retarded because the writer is retarded.
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>>214294209
He sold it as a guy who was completely mindbroken by the presence of Superman on the Earth. Other parts of the film don't hold up, and that same shtick from him in future films wouldn't have played as well, but it was off to a good start.
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>>214294880
That was Gruber bro giving deliberately bad and lame riddles or puzzles to make McClane underestimate him, and the very low quality was because he thought McClane was retarded. The text is super obvious about this.
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>>214294941
Cope.

Literally pissing in a jar and calling it granny's peach tea.
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>>214294011
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>>214294047
>villain is an atheist and also in the wrong
The film illustrates its intelligence by showing the reddit pseuds as the villain.
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>>214294247
>or are children less intelligent due to lack of intellectual stimulation?
Oh gee I wonder.
Fucking of course kids are dumber because media is dumber because retarded producers and even faggots right here on /tv/ think that making quality childrens' entertainment is pointless because "they'll watch anything."
If they'll watch anything, then make it worth watching, goddammit.
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>>214294011
Pic unrelated.
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>>214294268
Snyder is awesome with style, visuals and action.
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>>214294011
Superman literally is neither all powerful or God tho?
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>>214295035
No he isn't.
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>>214294811
>For by him all things were created
Friendly reminder that by Him all evil was created. He is not your ally. Warden would be more appropriate, but torturer also fits. All suffering is by Him.
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>Friendly reminder that by Him all evil was created. He is not your ally. Warden would be more appropriate, but torturer also fits. All suffering is by Him.
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>>214294011
>If HMMPH God is, uh, um uhhh, no, what, HMMM, all powerful, he UMMMMmmm cannotbeallgood. Mmmmm...and if he, uh, mmm, hmph, is all good, then he cannot be uhmmmmm ALL POWERful, mmhmhmhmh
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>>214294169
at least skim the first 2 goddamn chapters of the most well known book in the work you heretic
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>>214295640
my favorite part is all the curses God put on humanity because he was seething so hard over not being able to see Adam's dick anymore
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>>214294247
Watching 50s-60s children sci-fi shows is weird. Unless it was pre-school shows, they were really banking on the kids being smart enough to get scientific concepts. Even shows that were very pulp, like Flash Gordon, or cartoons like Space Angel, or even young kid shows about learning history like Captain Z-Ro, were like that.
What the fuck happened to us? I think that started to get pushed out in the 70s. Star Trek isn't very scientific, for example. It has it' own made-up science, at least.
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>>214295914
Boomers decided that certain subspecies were actually people. Everything's been worse since.
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>>214295253
>He is not your ally
No he's your Lord and you have to do his bidding, do atheists actually have a problem with the fact that they're not equal to God?
also:
>crying about roughly 50 years of suffering (at most) when the reward is eternity of bliss
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>>214294209
>the blood on your hands
Whoa... like the stigmata? BRAVO SNYDER!!
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>>214294209
Haha, Jesus Christ.
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>>214296104
Stigmata are a sign of being chosen by God. Snyder is just to high IQ for the common man.
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>>214294363
Never saw this film I always thought he was saying 1A because he was a big supporter of free speech.
Also this scene fucking blows hard.
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>>214294305
Source?
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>>214294011
Imagine if these two linked up
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>>214294011
I'm not a godfag but I don't get the logic. Why could an all powerful being not possibly be good? Just because you might be corrupted by power and use it abusively doesn't mean someone else necessarily would. He sounds like he's just seething at the chad starting QB of the football team; fedora tipping energy.
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>>214296243
Here, read this phamlet then come down to our congregation this Saturday. I mean, if you dont want to burn in hellfire for all of eternity that is, but your call.
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>>214294011
why not?
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>>214294011
>>214294209
GOOD
MOR
NING
SAAR
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>>214294011
>"if god is all powerful, he cannot be all good"
why?
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>>214296351
it's a dumb american version of pic related

christians still in shambles 2000 years later
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Zach Snyder is the biggest closet homo case in Hollywood after Tom Cruise.
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>>214294011
He was a starchily good villain. A shame people couldn’t see past Clancy’s Lex.
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>>214297645
Tom Holland outed all male actors. Casting couch applies to all.
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>>214294011
the implicit assumption when people make this statement is
>obviously, God's morality is exactly the same as my morality. When it comes to moral judgement, im on the same level as an omnipotent, omniscient being, thats so obviously true about me I doesnt even need to be stated.
Just the pure hubris and self-delusion of grandeur from a man
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>>214294417
Its funny how atheists will think the destroys the concept of God, but when you ask "Does the set of all empty sets contain itself" they get real quiet even though it destroys the foundation of mathematics.
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>>214294047
>dude a supreme being just kinda randomly materialized
how is this less ridiculous?
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>>214297627
That doesn't work as an argument because you can see one of his points is just a question "from whence cometh evil?". So he hasn't derived a contradiction or paradox. He has derived a question which can't be answered by his postulates. That only indicates his postulate set is incomplete to derive the conclusion he reaches.
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>>214294550
>218% of 0 is still 0
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>>214298546
They think magic can explain anything. Unfortunately magic has rules, and like anything else that has to follow the laws of thermodynamics, you have to give something to get something.
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>>214298499
>Does the set of all empty sets contain itself
>Does the bag containing all the empty bags contain itself
No, it contains a lot of empty sets.
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>>214294880
>>214294941
No he only wanted to murder John and cops, not civilians. Not unlike the first film where they pretend to be terrorists but they just want money
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Snyder's female characters are great and opposite of girlbosses.
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>>214298636
Then its not the set of all empty sets, which was the question.
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>>214298443
Modern people are endlessly more moral than bronze age nigger god.
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>>214299691
it itself is not an empty set because it contains all the empty sets, meaning it would qualify itself for containment
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you cannot be more moral than God, its a nonsense statement.
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>>214299881
the game was rigged from the start
God deserves the death we have given Him
sic semper tyrannis
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>>214294087
I still don't see freewill as a choice. People feel hardwired to be who they are. Like diminished impulse control is genetic and you keep finding murderers in the genealogy of bloodlines with that trait. Acting of their own accord was acting of their nature. I feel the illusion of freewill is so we accept our judgement in the end when we were predestined to live or die by His grace.
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This stupid motherfucker with his spergy and Heath Ledger/Jared Leto wannabe tryhard performance nearly ruined the whole movie. I couldn't believe it was even supposed to be Luthor until the end of the film when he was bald. He just came off as a twat.
Terrible direction choice.
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>>214298636
You think plastic bags carrying plastic bags are empty sets because there's nothing in the bags? That's like thinking a suitcase carrying a suitcase is empty because it's supposed to carry clothes in it
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>>214300094
youre using "sets" as a noun though. Things are things, even if they are empty.
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>>214295687
My favourite part is when god, for no reason, demands everyone have a foreskin cutting party and some serious blood is spilt

Also the part where noah gets drunk and falls asleep naked and his son sees his cock
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>>214300123
>Does the set of all empty sets contain itself
That's the point of the question. How do you have something that is empty to begin with. An empty bag isn't empty to begin with, as it alreday contains air. That's the point. Nothing is ever really truly empty.
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>>214300202
He has His reasons.
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>mfw the fucking cartoon is still the smartest version of capeslop with the best Lex
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I miss when superhero movies could have poignant messages about hope while using positive Christ imagery instead being generic capeslop made by an unironic child predator.
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>>214300293
>it was a trick question because emptiness doesnt exist
???
So your argument is that the rock question is flawed because God doesnt exist? Cuz I sure as fuck know both sets and rocks do.
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>>214298546
>randomly materialized
At least learn what you shit talk, child.
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>>214294417
No, retard. it is not. It is an Epicurus quote.
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>>214294011
Lex's overall argument is not intelligent whatsoever. His use of this quote makes very little sense in it.

Let's look at it closely:
>P1: God is defined as an all-powerful being.
>P2: Superman is the most powerful being on Earth.
>C1: Therefore, Superman is God. (from P1 and P2)
>P3: If God allows bad things to happen, then He is not all-good.
>P4: The suffering of children is bad.
>P5: Lex Luthor suffered as a child (was beaten by his father).
>C2: Therefore, God is not all-good. (from P3–P5)
>C3: Therefore, Superman is bad. (from C1 and C2)

The first intermediate conclusion (Superman is God) is already an invalid inference. Just because Superman is the most powerful being on Earth (P2), and God is defined as all-powerful (P1), does not mean Superman is God. Being the most powerful doesn't equal all-powerful. There could be a being more powerful than Superman (e.g., off Earth), and Superman has clear limits.

This is the biggest issue with the argument and makes it terrible from the outset, but we might also take issue with the final conclusion C3 (Superman is bad). C3 hinges on the idea that "not all-good" = "bad", but this is a false dichotomy, since "all-good” and “bad” are not exhaustive opposites. A being can be morally mixed, imperfect, or morally neutral, that doesn’t make them bad.

If Lex believes his argument is valid, it is safe to infer that he is actually a midwit.
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>>214294520
Here comes the worst tradlarper on this board again.
Didn't you get BTFO hard enough last time when you claimed that there is a "typo" in John's Gospel?
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>>214294011
It's the triarchy and he fucked it up probably on purpose
If God is all knowing he can't be all good and all powerful
If God is all good he can't be all powerful and all knowing
If God is all powerful he can't be All good and all knowing
The most common answer is he isn't all knowing because free will exist, he doesn't know what everyone will do, he doesn't know when cancer will pop up or how to fix it.
The other two answers are terrifying because either we have no free will and he's torturing us like robots
Or he's not actually control of the universe or anything he's just really powerful
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>>214298579
They cant fathom what a billion years is let alone 15
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Reminder that Yahweh lost to the god of the Moabites (2 Kings 3:26-27)
>26 When the king of Moab saw that the battle had gone against him, he took with him seven hundred swordsmen to break through to the king of Edom, but they failed. 27 Then he took his firstborn son, who was to succeed him as king, and offered him as a sacrifice on the city wall. The fury against Israel was great; they withdrew and returned to their own land.
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AND I JUST READ THE THREAD

LEX FUCKED UP THE PARADOX OF EVIL ON PURPOSE
YOU ALL ARE DEBATING NONSENSE
IT 3 TIERED
NOT FUCKING TWO
ALL GOOD
ALL KNOWING
ALL POWERFUL

YOU FUCKING PSUEDO INTELLECTUALS RETARDS. ITS ANCIENT GREEK. THE PARADOX OF EVIL, THE TRIARCHY
NOT JUST GOOD OR ALL POWERFUL

FUCK YOUR EDUCATIONS SUCK YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN INSTANTLY LEX FUCKED IT UP ON PURPOSE
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>>214301540
>knowledge != power
yeah, and "we're" uneducated
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>>214301415
I said the king James is trash. I.posted nearly a half.dozen. you used the typo. I literally used nearly a half dozen scriptures that proved you. Wrong whereas you went back to, your typo!
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>>214301600
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU USE AI TO LEARN
IT FUCKED IT UP

ITS A TRIARCHY
ITS FAMOUS
FOR 3 COMPONENTS

STOP FUCKING USING AI TO RESEARCH YOU STUPID SHITS

I CANNOT COUNT ANYMORE HOW MANY TIMES AI HAS FUCKED ZOOMERS UP ON THE MOST BASIC FUCKING SHIT

THIS ENTIRE FUCKING THREAD
3 IS NOT FUCKING 2

IT HAS 3 FUCKING COMPONENTS
YOU GO TO A COLLEGE AND SPOUT THAT SHIT IN A CLASS THEY WILL LAUGH YOUR ASS OUT
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>>214294209
Does superman even claim to be all powerful in snyder movies?
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>>214301415
One typo vs so many Scriptures!!! One typo!!!
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So what was the point of the piss jar and how did Luthor manage to fill that whole thing, smuggle it into the courtroom AND set it right in front of the judge?
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>>214301678
Members of the oversight doesn't live nor work in these places.
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>>214301662
>jwdotorg
everyone point and laugh
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>>214301624
No, larper. I showed you the original Greek and you kept insisting there is a "typo", then you started spamming random "study notes on John" quotes. Just like you are quoting random google stuff again now lmao.
I will give you another change to embarass yourself and show your complete ignorance of Christianity.
καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. Where is the typo?
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>>214301737
No, point and sing
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>>214294011
>They need to see the fraud you are. With their eyes. The blood on your hands
>he only killed a fake god (superman), he's a fraud in the eyes of humanity with blood in his hands (steppenwolf scene)
I miss capekino, lex won in that movie btw
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>>214301765
and I showed you the truth. All you've ever shown was a Typo!
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>>214294685
YHWH is numerologically spelled by the pattern of the acids in your DNA. Not a Joo but it's troo.
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>>214301848
Where is the typo? John 1:1’s Greek text literally reads: “and the Word was God”. This isn’t a printing error, KJV quirk, or mistranslation, it’s in all the earliest manuscripts and every translation. Calling it a “typo” is desperation without evidence. The point isn’t obsessing over one verse; the point is that John 1:1 declares Christ’s deity in the clearest possible way, and all Scripture that speaks of His nature is consistent with it. See Colossians 2:9, Hebrews 1:8, John 20:28.
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>>214294209
It was a good performance, but it was a terrible depiction of Luthor.
They should have just called him something else. Make him Stagg or something. Doesn't fit that character either, but at least people are unfamiliar with Stagg.
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>>214301866
Wow! Greek looks a lot like English.
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>>214301891
I gave you the Greek and you conveniently ignored it, larper.
καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. Where is the typo?
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>>214301866
Scholars are known to come across something that might be contradictory, now if they find other facts or points of interest they'll typically go with MAJORITY RULES! I showed you a half dozen proofs as to why that is a typo, thereby the rules of common sense, logic and science demands you acquiesce. One typo VS Many Concise counterpoint(s).
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>>214301945
NTA. No Greek is going to fundamentally share equivalent meaning with an English translation. That's not how language works. You're dishonestly implying that is the direct translation, when that's more than likely a passed down KJV fenaggling with context/verbeage. Do you also think Lucifer was his name?
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>>214301945
And I gave you half.a dozen scriptures from your beloved king James which counters your typo.
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>>214302022
this unfortunate truth is half the reason behind the schism in The Church™
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>>214301356
>since "all-good” and “bad” are not exhaustive opposites
If you're going to use Aristotelian logic at least use the proper terminology of contrary and contradictory
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>>214301767
There is only one Christian Church that has been founded by Jesus Christ, Himself, and JW is not it.
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>>214301988
Every extant Greek manuscript of John, whether early papyrus (P66, P75, c. 2nd–3rd century) or later codices (Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, etc.) reads “καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος” (“and the Word was God”). There is no textual variant here. Not one. If it were a typo, we would expect at least some manuscripts to differ. They don’t.“Majority rules” is only applied when manuscripts disagree. Textual criticism weighs internal and external evidence to determine the original wording. In John 1:1, no disagreement exists. All manuscripts agree. “Majority rules” is irrelevant.

Of course, not only would there have to be a typo in EVERY manuscript for your theory to be true, also the rest of scripture which accords with John 1:1 would have to be a typo in every manuscript.
>John 20:28, Thomas: “My Lord and my God.” >Hebrews 1:8, The Father addresses the Son: “Your throne, O God…”
>Colossians 2:9 “In Him all the fullness of deity dwells bodily.”
>Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, Christ explicitly called “God and Savior.”

Your "dozen proofs" are most likely pathetic misreadings, I remember refuting a bunch of them last time. Give me your best three and I will do it again.

I already know you will just screenshot study notes you found on google and babble on about "tyops". You will never, ever be Christian.
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>>214302134
>at least say "different" and not "not the same"
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>>214302022
Nobody claims Greek and English are identical. But John 1:1 isn’t some vague phrase that’s impossible to render. The Greek reads: καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. “and God was the Word”. That isn’t “KJV-only fenagling.” It’s the consensus of linguists across centuries and traditions. Long before the KJV the Latin Vulgate as “et Deus erat Verbum.”
Give me a better translation that somehow proves your retarded heresy, go on.
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>>214302140
Maybe, the Bible gets to decide. And it did, and guess what, Babylon the Great, the vile demonic harlot will fall. And when the Great whore dies, devoured by the Kings of the earth the greatest whore of all time committed fornication with, there'll be a Window, probably a small one.
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>>214302146
What about the Gnostic papyri? Sophia being the Word, etc? Those were written loooong ago...
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>>214302207
Which Bible?
>Martinist
>Calvinist
>KJV
>Children's
>American Standard
>Mormon
>Quran
>Talmud
>Torah
>The New Testmament, printed solely in its original languages
Need I add more options?
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>>214298499
No, the set of all empty sets does not contain itself.
The set of all empty sets is not empty. It contains sets. Therefore it doesn't belong in the set of all empty sets.
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>>214302217
You keep moving the goalposts. First you said John 1:1 was a KJV mistranslation. Then you claimed it was a typo. Then it was about majority rules. Now it’s the Gnostic papyri
Every single Greek manuscript of John says καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος “and the Word was God.” There is no textual variant, no typo, no manuscript disagreement.
Gnostic writings came later (2nd to 4th century) and aren’t NT manuscripts, they are commentaries from a heretical sect, not alternate versions of John. You will never be Christian.
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>>214298571
it's a paradox because you start by assuming the three things are true and then you derive contradictions from them. the paradox is to show that the three things can't all be true
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>>214302290
No, that was my only question. Answer it. I don't care about your petty quibbling with the other anon.
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>>214298571
Embarassing.
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>>214302290
The Gnostics were labelled as Heretics by asshurt Romans
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>>214302317
I answered your question. The Gnostic papyri aren’t copies of John’s Gospel but separate religious texts from the 2nd to 4th centuries that borrowed Christian terms and gave them new meanings. Yes, they talk about “Sophia” (wisdom), but that’s part of their own mythos, not a variant reading of John 1:1.
>>214302343
>The Gnostics were labelled as Heretics by asshurt Romans
Gnostics weren’t “heretics” just because of Rome. They were rejected by Christians everywhere (Greek, Syriac, Coptic) because their writings contradicted both the Old Testament and the apostles. And importantly: Gnostic writings never present an alternate version of John 1:1. So whether you love or hate the Romans doesn’t change the fact that every manuscript of John agrees on “the Word was God.”
You will never be Christian (and you will never be Gnostic either)
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>>214296351
cuz reality is shitty and full of suffering. evil is permitted and often rewarded by nature. god doesn't seem to have a problem with any of this.
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>>214294011
Superman never claimed to be either.
He was better off with
>Do you know the oldest lie in America?
>That power can be innocent.
Or the classic
>Power corrupts
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>>214302146
Why is this typo so important when other scriptures counters it?
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>>214294011
>another twitter thread just reposted to /tv/
I'll never understand you indians.
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>>214294011
God got bored of fixing all our problems so he lets us suffer for entertainment purposes.
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>>214298579
who is the ruler maker and enforcer?
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>>214299000
Gay check
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>>214302268
Why is it that one typo negates other scriptures in the very same Bibles the typo is found in..One typo vs so many other scriptures.
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>>214302268
its the same bible just some take out verses or poorly translate them a la jw bible
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>>214298443
>God's morality is exactly the same as my morality.
I guess people got confused by the Bible when god is quite often looking, behaving and talking like a man
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>>214302558
John 1:1 is not just one verse in isolation: it lines up perfectly with the rest of Scripture, John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Colossians 2:9, Titus 2:13, etc. I already pointed out that you would have to pretend that all of those are "typos" to make your demented lie about John 1:1 stick.
If you claim “other verses counter it,” then the burden’s on you to show how Thomas calling Jesus “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28) or the Father calling the Son “O God” (Hebrews 1:8) somehow don’t mean what they plainly say.
You won't be able to do that though, just like you will never be Christian.
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>>214294047
>I don't understand something
>therefore it was god
Just as retarded as the people who invented Zeus and Thor to explain lightning bolts.
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>>214294209
>all powerful means you can't be all-good
do atheists even think about the words they read and write?
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>>214302737
2 Corinthians 4:4 Satan is called the god of this system of things.

1Corinthians 15:24, now here, Our Lord Jesus returns the crown to his father

1 Corinthians 15:24 states, "Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power." This verse signifies the culmination of Christ's reign, where He will hand over the kingdom to God after overcoming all forms of authority and power. It reflects the eschatological theme of the ultimate victory of God over all adversaries.
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>>214302802
An all-powerful and all-good deity isn't consistent with the reality we observe. Our world wouldn't be so full of suffering.
>b-but free will
Irrelevant. We live in a world where living things have to kill and eat each other to survive. And we will all slowly have our bodies fail until we die. This is suffering baked into the fabric of reality that we had no choice in.
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>>214302207
How many misinterpretations of the Bible have you seen in this very thread?
Get behind me Satan.
I shant chose the interpretation of a man from the late 1800's who founded a cult to sell magazines over the interpretation of the Church founded by Jesus Christ Himself of 2 millenia ago.
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>>214302902
The Jehovah's witnesses Bible is the most accurate. Even the Catholics said so.
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>>214294011
Didn't St. Thomas Aquinas btfo this argument like a millennia ago?
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>>214303011
Post it, let's see if it makes sense or if it's a pathetic cope.
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Christianity has been perpetually on the back foot since evolutionary theory. How can you believe in millions of years of evolution and that the Bible is legit
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>>214294417
Can an intelligent being make an intelligence so smart not even he can out think it?
I think we're getting close to finding out
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>>214302975
>source: dude trust me
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>>214303103
Evolution is GARBAGE
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>>214302881
2 Corinthians 4:4 calls Satan the “god of this world”, but that’s lowercase, figurative: it means he has influence over sinful systems, not that he is divine. Scripture repeatedly distinguishes between false “gods” and the one true God (Deut. 6:4). If your logic held, then calling Satan “god” would make him divine, but that’s blasphemy, not Christianity. 2. “Mighty God” in Isaiah 9:6 is Jesus, not Satan. The prophecy calls the coming Messiah “Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” Christians universally interpret this as Christ. No early Christian ever read “Mighty God” as Satan. Your to shove Satan into a messianic prophecy is pure desperation. Christ’s Reign in 1 Corinthians 15 is about order within the Trinity, not inequality of divinity. The Son and the Father share one essence (John 10:30), but the Son submits functionally in His mediatorial role. It doesn’t say “Christ isn’t God”, it says the Son glorifies the Father, which is Trinitarian harmony.
Your "theology" boils down to: Satan gets called ‘god,’ Jesus gets demoted to ‘mighty god,’ but Jehovah keeps the big title. That’s not Christianity, it’s Arianism, and the Bible itself wrecks it with verses like John 1:1, John 20:28, and Col 2:9, where Christ is called God Almighty. Just give up the larp.
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>>214303193
No, you can go search or, Go to the Jehovah's witnesses website and learn.
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>>214303228
>or, Go to the Jehovah's witnesses website and learn.
>source: dude trust me
false flag or mental retardation, call it
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>>214303203
This >>214303292 is for you
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>>214294011
>actually the grand design collimates with eternal good
>checkmate faggot
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>JWs unironically using AI
you cant make this shit up, people
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>>214303203
John: The English equivalent of the Hebrew name Jehohanan or Johanan, meaning “Jehovah Has Shown Favor; Jehovah Has Been Gracious.” The writer of this Gospel is not identified by name. However, by the second and third centuries C.E., the book was widely attributed to the apostle John. Whenever the name John is mentioned in this Gospel, it refers to John the Baptist, with the exception of Joh 1:42 and 21:15-17, where Jesus referred to the father of Peter as John. (See study notes on Joh 1:42 and 21:15.) Although the apostle John is never mentioned by name, he and his brother James are referred to as “the sons of Zebedee.” (Joh 21:2; Mt 4:21; Mr 1:19; Lu 5:10; see study note on Joh 1:6.) In the closing verses of the Gospel, the writer refers to himself as “the disciple whom Jesus loved” (Joh 21:20-24), and there are good reasons for linking this expression with the apostle John.—See study note on Joh 13:23.

According to John: None of the Gospel writers identify themselves as such in their accounts, and titles are apparently not part of the original text. In some manuscripts of John’s Gospel, the title appears as Eu·ag·geʹli·on Ka·taʹ I·o·anʹnen (“Good News [or, “Gospel”] According to John”), whereas in others a shorter title, Ka·taʹ I·o·anʹnen (“According to John”), is used. It is not clear exactly when such titles were added or began to be used. Some suggest the second century C.E., since examples of the longer title have been found in Gospel manuscripts that have been dated to the end of the second century or early third century. According to some scholars, the opening words of Mark’s Gospel (“The beginning of the good news about Jesus Christ, the Son of God”) may have been the reason why the term “gospel” (lit., “good news”) came to be used to describe these accounts. The use of such titles along with the name of the writer may have come about for practical reasons, providing a clear means of identifying the books.

1:1
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>>214303203
1:1

the beginning: In the Scriptures, the meaning of the term “beginning” depends on the context. Here the Greek word ar·kheʹ cannot refer to “the beginning” of God the Creator, for he is eternal, having no beginning. (Ps 90:2) It must, therefore, refer to the time when God began creating. God’s first creation was termed the Word, a heavenly designation of the one who became Jesus. (Joh 1:14-17) So Jesus is the only one who can rightly be called “the firstborn of all creation.” (Col 1:15) He was “the beginning of the creation by God” (Re 3:14), so he existed before other spirit creatures and the physical universe were created. In fact, by means of Jesus, “all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth.”—Col 1:16; for other examples of how the term “beginning” is used, see study note on Joh 6:64.

the Word: Or “the Logos.” Greek, ho loʹgos. Here used as a title, it is also used at Joh 1:14 and Re 19:13. John identified the one to whom this title belongs, namely, Jesus. This title was applied to Jesus during his prehuman existence as a spirit creature, during his ministry on earth as a perfect man, and after his exaltation to heaven. Jesus was God’s Word of communication, or Spokesman, for conveying information and instructions to the Creator’s other spirit sons and to humans. So it is reasonable to think that prior to Jesus’ coming to earth, Jehovah on many occasions communicated with mankind through the Word, His angelic mouthpiece.—Ge 16:7-11; 22:11; 31:11; Ex 3:2-5; Jg 2:1-4; 6:11, 12; 13:3.

with: Lit., “toward.” In this context, the Greek preposition pros implies close proximity and fellowship. It also indicates separate persons, in this case, the Word and the only true God.
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>the ones who claim religion is made to control and shame people are the same ones who wish to control and shame people through secular means
ironic
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>>214303165
Put down the vape and close your gpt window
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>>214303379
Pretty much. Even further their gods, the big bang self creation and evolution, has never been proven scientifically nor can it.
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>>214303451
Actually I just thought of it while running on the treadmill.
Of course God or "life" can create something better than itself, it's been doing it all along. The son surpasses the father, this is what people mean when they say we are all God and he is literally everywhere. He's a metaphor for improving life. And life/god improves unless evil tries to stop it.
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>>214294011
>>214294047
>if God good why bad thing happen
>everything just come from nothing like bang there it is
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>>214303642
If we're superior to god then he's not god.
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>>214303642
No, the son most definitely does not surpass the father..
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>>214303642
>The son surpasses the father, this is what people mean when they say we are all God and he is literally everywhere.
most blasphemous thing Ive read all thread.
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>>214303619
bing bang and evolution are proven, and don't disprove God's existence
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>>214303762
Where
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>>214303762
if man evolve from monkey then why come money?
Checkm8, athiests.
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>>214303762
If is a forever theory

Some physicists are pushing back against the inflationary Big Bang model. A recent proposal by Raul Jimenez and colleagues suggests a radically minimalist alternative: instead of invoking hypothetical fields and particles, they start with de Sitter space—a quantum-gravitational vacuum—and let gravitational waves do the work of seeding structure in the universe.

This model:

- Avoids speculative inflation fields
- Doesn’t require dark energy or dark matter as initial conditions
- Relies only on known physics: quantum mechanics and gravity
- Makes testable predictions using gravitational wave data
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>>214303809
*it is a
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so in 2009 4chan lingo

some oldfag a long time ago, created a copypasta for the epic lulz to troll newfags

the newfags eventually started spamming the copypasta too after having been told to lurkmoar

and that's how religion started?
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>>214298874
Irrelevant.

Only retards like you would even defend that retarded shit.
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Terrio is such a fantastic writer. Shame he keeps getting fucked over by studios.
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>>214294011
Doesn't this quote contradict Luthor's whole reason for hating Superman? I admin I'm not superman/luthor-knower, but isn't his whole deal, ostensibly anyway, that superman is a fag because he keeps humans from solving their own problems and standing on their own two legs? So wouldn't a god that did what superman does actually NOT be a "good" god, by Luthor's worldview? Thus undermining the whole quote?
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>>214303717
Not what I said. We aren't superior to life or God, but we make God/life superior as we advance, it's like a limit in math, we are striving towards perfection but will never achieve it, but if we stop aiming up we become evil.
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>>214302601
How did Lex sneak the piss jar into the congressional hearing?
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>>214304312
huh
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Its kinda neat
Imagine(if you would be so kind as to) that you're a person, that is to say, not an NPC.
Ok, so, just keep that in your mind and bear with me.
You probably belong to one of the following groups(everyone does):
>God(s[if you like penis])
>No gods
>Gods?
Given that, you meet something foe the first time. It is clearly above you in the pecking order. You dont have any word to descrivlbe it, but it seems closer to a god than man. But when observed in situations of normalcy, it behaves much like man, and you are more than acquainted with the nature of man.
So what then? Do you worship with the others? No matter which of the 3 you are, wouldnt that heavily conflict with your views up to this point in your life? Or are you just so afriad of him that you would grovel before him? Whats to stop this thing with the power of a greek god and the heart of a man from having a change of heart? What is to stop this man from "flooding the earth" because of his sudden dissatisfaction with it? Can he be trusted to be just? Can we trust his sense of justice and when it is needed?
SUPERMAN MUST BLEED
Superman is not an abstact concept humans are unable to fathom. Lex knows EXACTLY what he is and EXACTLY how dangerous that is for mankind.

If man can make him bleed, then they can make him good. If man cannot then all hope is lost. The reason why this man is so super is not his power and how it can be used, but how he doesnt use his power. And were it not for Lex, he would have no pther reason to ot use his powers other than how his heart was currently swayed.



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