Scream 7 is making use of AI to bring back characters like Stu. Saw XI is said to be going the JigAI route. What other horror movies do you think could make good use of the AI Concept?
It will be interesting to see if Scream 7 can be good after 5 and 6 were complete dogshit.
>muh AIIt's literally not AI. Before the AI buzzword gained traction this kind of shit was called deepfakes. It's not artificial intelligence, it's a sub-section of CGI.Retards have poisoned the well and destroyed the conversation.
AI villains already feel tired after so many of them in recent years. M3gan, Child's Play remake, Tau, Afraid, Companion, Subservience, etc.
>>214324789I am personally hoping that they don't go the M3gan vs. JigAI route.
>>214324923After how badly M3gan 2.0 flopped, I don't think we'll see her again for a long time.
Childhood is thinking Oren is in the right. Adulthood is realizing Mark was right.
>>214324380scream fucking 7? are you fucking with me? how is this shit still going.If a horror movie gets one successful movie then THEY literally come out of the woodwork to FUCK IT TO DEATH
>>214325001There was talk that they could use a M3gan vs. JigAI movie to reenergize the M3gan series now that Saw is at Blumhouse.
>>214324380How do fans of Scream cope knowing that Scary Movie did everything better?
>>214325187Scary Movie 1 is good and Scary Movie 2 is fun. Scream 1-4 are good. I can appreciate both things.
>>214325090What is your breakdown of what Mark is right about?
>>214324380Scream 3 already did what we consider AI voices so I don't really see the point, but might be fun and hopefully better than 5 and 6 which were shit. They should have retired the series after Wes or they could have taken it in a completely wild direction instead. Completely unrelated characters getting picked off by Ghostface.>>214324785This does piss me off too. None of this 'AI' is really artificial intelligence at all.
>>214326072What difference does it make?
>>214326523Could you be a little bit more specific about what your confusion is?
>>214324380>scream 7There were more than 2?
>>214326573People hate Scream 3, but I think it's fun Scream 4 does the remake/reboot thing before it was popular which is why it is dumb that then Scream 5 does it again. Scream 4 also tackled modern technology and the internet age much better than 5 and 6.
For some reason I watched the series a little and now the movies are so bad that they are basically the same quality, if not lower, as the series
>>214326557AI.
>>214326639It's like I said. It isn't really a true artificial intelligence at all. Not even close. It's a glorified series of 'if then' statements.
>>214324380Will be interesting to see them use deepfake AI for face time calls from previous killers to taunt Sidney but turns out Stu isn't AI, he is alive and one of the killers.
>>214326788If you look at something like AI image generation or AI coding and are grousing about the term "AI" I just think it's hard to care much about the distinction. It would be like saying that calling AI in videogames AI is blah blah blah...Asinine.
>>214326919Too good of a twist for this series.
Will they make Sid's daughter one of the killers? Or is that too close to Scream 4 having her niece be the killer?
>>214326962No because average joe normie thinks it is genuine artificial intelligence and it isn't. That's the problem.
>>214327021Yeah people talking to GPT like it is actually sentient is stupid but not enough for me to care about the term AI. In terms of practical applications it is fine.
I think the reason why 5 and 6 was shit because Weinstein is no more.
>>214324785Deepfakes use deep convolutional neural networks, which are a part of deep learning which is a machine learning technique which is a subfield of artificial intelligence.Deefakes are AI. AI is huge, but most morons think AI is just large language models.
>>214327419Wes Craven died man
>>214327419Radio Silence guys are hacks, Ready or Not was the one decent thing they made and even that was overrated.
>>214327677Ready or Not is pretty darn good. The dropoff in quality from that to Scream 5 and 6 is massive.
>>214325174Would Blumhouse really be that retarded?Probably.
>>214326613>Scream 4 does the remake/reboot thing before it was popularThis I find particularly interesting, cause Scream 4 feels like a satire of Disney's Star Wars (and all that came after): a sequel that´s closer to a remake, new characters clearly carbon copies of the originals, bringing back the old cast just to kill them off, etc., but they did it before it became a thing.
>>214327597That too. I almost forgot.
>>214328236And then Scream 5 came out and "satirized" complaints about Star Wars 7.
>>214328236That's cause they did it first. But then Scream 5 does it again and invents the word "requel" but doesn't even acknowledge that it already happened in the previous movie! Scream 5 thinks they're so clever with what they're doing and it's a complete and worse retread.
>>214324380If it's damn good AI then it works for Saw, because the actor is very old, all the actors ages up, and the character is dead (along with many) so how would they keep going with new people nobody cares about or do more prequels which means they need all the actors to be younger. Getting look alike young actors is harder, and making them children is stupid. But honestly the entire story is overdone, let's not even talk about negro rocks lame ass attempt to get attention from a sequel that was embarrassing. Instead they should focus on more between Saw and Saw 2.
Conceptually there is a lot to like about Scream.
>>214326573Yeah but do not bother after the first two.In fact if they stopped at the first movie it would have been fine too. Trying to "franchise" everything is just one of the many things that has killed cinema.
>>214329627Nah the first four are enjoyable. Do any of the sequels reach the first? No, but compared to modern shit they're all worth a watch. Better than seeing the new Annabelle movie or whatever the fuck is out.
>>214324785>deep learning is a sub-section of CGIYou dumb computer illiterate jeet fuck. KYS faggot
>>214329627Sequels have always been shit. Craven lost it by the end; My Soul to Take is the worst thing he ever made and Scream 4 was only marginally better. They need to make more "new" stuff like Weapons.
>>214325763Oren wanted to move forward with a traditional sequel (Saw XI with John, Amanda, Cecilia), Mark wanted to go for a radical reboot (even more so than Spiral) because Mark felt like Saw had peaked it's potential audience interest (and he's right, Saw peaked it's audience interest back during the original seven movies, Jigsaw, Spiral and even Saw X failed to reignite the series). Despite the supposed "critical acclaim" the fanbase like to delude themselves into thinking it has in their Reddit echo chamber, general audience members are lukewarm at best on Saw X and it's financial success indicate, when accounted for inflation, Saw X had the second lowest attendance in series history, that number one spot taken by Spiral.Aside from Spiral, audiences have never been so apathetic and disinterested in Saw with Saw X. Mark is right. Interest in Saw is plummeting, the ship has sailed and the only way the series can survive is with a radical reinvention, even more so than Spiral. I think James bringing back Tobin is even foolish, but Blum is just doing it out of respect for the property he just bought before he really makes the franchise his own.
horror fatigue is real
>>214331152Yeah I kind of picked up on that watching interviews with them. When Mark would say that Jigsaw and John Kramer were the center and most important part of Saw X you could see Oren smirking like "Motherfucker I have had to fight you so hard for that for the future of the series." It is clear that Mark was the one pushing for either the JigAI or JigShe Concepts.
>>214331430It is crazy how much the ball got dropped with Saw XI.
On the one hand I think the JigAI Concept has a lot of potential but I also do not want to see them make Tobin Bell less central to the series.
Does Ghostface even have rizz at this point?
HOT TAKE.Scream 5 isn't that bad.Scream 6 is crazy dogshit tier.
>>214325693>3 is goodYou know you don't believe this
>>2143337581 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 3 > 6I love Scary Movie 1 - 3 equally
>>214333689Yes
>>214333758Scream 3 is good.
>>2143337764 being better than 2 is an interesting take, but I disagree. Don't really care for the rest, they're all shite.>I love Scary Movie 1 - 3 equallyMy nigga
>>214333813Incorrect
>>214324380>making use of AI to bring back characters like StuHow? Is he going to stab people through the computer screen?
>>214333816I just don't like the Mother angle. It comes across as retarded.
>>214333839Wrong.
>>214333844Fair enough, I thought it was fine considering the characterisation added up plus it was nice to see how Sidney's arc developed as a result of her PTSD.>>214333857I know you are but what am I?
>>214333919I am rubber, you are glue.
>>214333919If you are the guy who said 5 is better than 3 you are stupid as shit.
>>214334401I said they are all shit aside from 1, 2 and 4 you illiterate buffoon
