This movie feels incomplete
>>214339597The point of this movie was to make people believe dumb conspiracies so they ignore real conspiracies (capitalism).
>>214339624Capitalism?
>>214339624>this is what commies actually believeMarx was in the party ;^)
needed a donald trump cameo
>sex-havers?? in costumes??? ahhh I'm going insane!!
>>214339801Make it stopppp!!
>>214339597The people that are really into conspiracy theories surrounding this movie are so retarded. Literally zero proof of their schizo bs
>>214339958Isn’t the point of the movie to imply there is occult sex magic orgies hidden in the elite
>>214340006Umm so? It's no big deal.
>>214340006Maybe but I’m referring to the people that claim there were 30 minutes forcibly removed from the movie because it revealed there is child sex trafficking operations among elites
>>214339597Jay Dyer has a good breakdown of this movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbQrjLwvQYU&ab_channel=JayDyer
>>214339624Pedos are a real thing, Pizzagate and Epsteins island, yet you marxist retard focus on "capitalism" when child abuse is a real thing, fuck off you do not care about people.
>>214340101>jay dyer Check out rob agers vids instead
>>214340128epstein only fugged a million girls because they were poorfags and he was a billionaire. so really it's a capitalism problem tbqh
>>214340144based rob agers viewer
>>214339597Everything is there if you connect the dots. And the unsaid is formidable because it speaks of a parallel world of immense power that is fused with the power of nature itself
>>214340128True, over a billion muslims worship a pedo who married a 9 year old. This is the one pedo you can never name IRL.
>>214339597>movie about rich doctors unfulfilled sex life>feels incomplete
Relax. 3 years from now people will use VEO 5 to finish it.
>>214339597this was his first cut, and kubrick was know to edit movies right into the deadline. if he hadn't died he would've worked more on the movie. maybe it'd be longer, maybe it'd be shorter, maybe some scenes would be left out and others incorporated. we don't know. the script is out there but he treated them as guidelines rather than blueprints. but yeah, his first cut was not meant to be the movie
>>214340300Whoa… never thought about it like that
>>214340330Ill read the book I guess
>>214340172He pimped them to the most powerful people retard
>>214340128>Ugh all these rich capitalists are pedophiles and yet all you Marxists care about is rich pedophile capitalists?
>>214340832aka people who have lots of money
>>214340584The movie's longer, because it's more than an adaptation
>>214339597Swinger parties are pretty fun.
>>214340860And why would the Israeli government be interested in doing that
>>214340006on the surface level, it's much deeper than that
>>214340172In the commie timeline Epstein would have been a high ranking party official. You are missing the point.>If only the rape machine were painted red!
>>214340893I don't think party officials get billions of usd eachyou are mega coping
>>214340931>I don’t think [powerful in group] would take advantage of [weak out group]No, the coper is you.
>>214341022didn't say thatthe problem is the disparity in power due to wealth inequality which you richfag defense force types always defendso you invent this "marxist" boogieman party official who is allowed to order sex with little girls instead of giving money? well that is illegal and no one wants that anyway and is off topic
>>214341098You're wrong because you are disregarding the nature of desire, which is overwhelming and often goes above or against purely financial motives. Women often fuck powerful men bc it makes them horny
>>214341191What kind of "person" would run cover for an Israeli child prostitution ring.
>>214339597they had to remove the kiddy diddling scene from the ending because it was too fucked up (and on the nose).
>>214339597>not a single cum fart scenehard agree
>>214340330More likely he'd have removed things though, not added anything. He was not known for ever putting stuff back into a movie.
>>214339597It's a sequel to the music video for Laura Branigan's Self Control directed by Friedkin
>>214339597no it doesn't, thats actually one of the biggest reasons why i doubt that it was "cut after kubrick died"it literally totally works as a complete movie if you actually just understand everythign thats going on, its a very rich film. and it also clearly already expose's the illuminati and rich elite sex parties. the only evidence that i've heard that supports the theory that maybe it was edited was that supposedly the script in the kubrick archive also has a voice over narrative.
>>214340093i agree>>214342750
>>214339597i think that's what they were going for
>>214339597It pretty much follows the plot the book it's based on so don't know how much more complete you could make it
>Eyes Wide Shut camera man told Professor Simon that the theatrical release of the film was NOTHING like the film he shot. He worked with Kubrick for 4 years and NONE of that footage is in the final draft.https://x.com/TUPACABRA2/status/1951046952747168078
>>214343129sounds like the guy didnt actually work on the movie then.
>>214339624This, but unironically. Notice also how people use "Jew" as a distraction away from "Capitalist" while clearly meaning the same thing.Jewish banker, Jewish CEO, Jewish shareholder, Jewish policy maker.Just remove the "Jewish" from the term and you realize that the alt-right is literally just misdirected communism (Which is a good thing)I feel like more and more of 4chan is waking up to this fact though. All the cultural warfare and artificial division was sowed by capitalists after 2008 financial crisis almost got them beheaded.
>>214339624Yeah, white women debase themselves because some Emirati throws thousands of dollars at them.
>>214343403capitalism is literally avoidable, people will always stock pile resources and barter trying to make a profit. its literally unavoidable.
>>214343105except Kubrick demanded that "any traces of jewishness had to be removed"
>>214340872This is me.>Me growing up watching this movie"Oh wow the elite are crazy and creepy">Me literally wearing a costume while anally fucking some 40yo married slampig while her husband is giving me a rimjob at the same time"What a tame movie!"
>>214339624Only communist would believe infinite economic growth couldn't be sustainable.
>>214343439>Barter isn't a form of capitalismMarxists are truly retarded.
>>214343511i mistyped, i meant capitalism is "unavoidable", and i was saying that people will always stock pile, barter, and try to get maximum profit.
>hey maybe we shouldn't let creepy dudes get billions of dollars and private islands and then he can't pay poor street kids to suck his dick>ahh gommunism!!!this movie is pretty good but attracts the biggest retards
>>214343439That's not what capitalism is. It's not having property or accumulation of wealth. That's some capitalist historical revisionism to make it seem like capitalism is just natural and inevitable.Remember Capitalism as a system has only been invented in the 18th century. Before that nations had mercantilism which was also resource stock piling but not capitalism. And before that there was feudalism.Capitalism as a system essentially means making laws such that people can't have normal lives without bending the knee to a capitalist and selling their soul working for their benefit. It's a legal distinction, like how a black person being enslaved on a plantation and a black person choosing to work 16 hours a day on the same field results in the same actions being taken but the voluntary work is still preferable.We could have a system where the legal system is changed so all working people at a company share the profits equally among themselves, you would still have rich people and poor people but you would actually get the fucking value of your own labor back instead of it going to some rich motherfucker off of your back, your wealth would be based on your meritocratic value and how much of a worker you are etc. It would also make people more excited to work and care about the success of the company as they all would get an actual share of the profits, GDP would skyrocket but no one wants that because all rich people nowadays are parasitic rent seeker capitalists.
>>214343652such a system wouldn't exist. peopel will always try to maximize profit. many people wouldn't bother making corporations, and wouldn't aspire to focus the productivity of the corporation as much, if they couldn't maximize profit. people objectively wouldn't work as hard as they could if they couldn't maximize profit, a huge demographic of people give 100% of their being to their work becuase they want to secure the maximum size bag. you put a limit on the size of the bag they can get and they are going to limit the amount of effort they put in to match.
What I hate is every time you criticize capitalism, you get immediate autistic screeching about communism. As if there are only 2 choices possible. Capitalism being absolute shit and evil is a completely separate topic from communism and it should not even be brought up.I don't know a single normal person that actually likes capitalism or its effects, let's focus on that. People just always put up the false dichotomy that "capitalism is the lesser evil", well what about just having a system that is GOOD instead of a lesser form of evil?>>214343737Not true throughout history, this is an argument you always hear when people are "capitalism-brained" and have been led to believe things were always this way, which isn't true at all.Do you know how people worked before the industrial revolution? People would show up to work whenever they wanted/felt like. They would get paid for the amount of work they did and then they would leave. Do you know what happened when a farm worker got paid extra, what he did with the money? Usually they would stop working for as long as possible until the money was gone and then got back to work. Work was considered a nuisance to minimize while you focus on things you actually cared about like family and community, this is still how it's viewed in most of the world that isn't industrialized.>>214343737In democratic socialist economies of the 1950s - 1970s europe the most prosperous companies were actually co-ops that shared all the profit among workers until they got reformed. IKEA used to be such a system. The reason they work well is precisely because people are MORE motivated to work hard in them and hire more competent people because a more profitable company means a higher share of payment for you as an individual worker in such a company. The limit on the size of the bag is only imposed in capitalism, where the majority of the bag goes to shareholders and most workers gets a fixed salary no matter how productive they are.
>>214343737Yet somehow they did give 100% before capitalism was in full force, fancy that. In fact people today do their absolute best to not give 100%.
>>214343129So it was only 1 cameraman out of the 100s of people that worked on the movie?
>>214343737Bro in the current capitalist system literally everyone is just pretending to work. My entire office job is adult daycare. """work""" from home is literally me just having my work laptop open next to me to see if I got messaged while shitposting on 4chan all day and sometimes clicking the keyboard to show "active" in google workspace to give the illusion to colleagues I'm being productive. And EVERYONE does the same shit because when I message them they take 1-2 hours to reply back, obviously watching a movie or something.
>>214343830>People would show up to work whenever they wanted/felt like. They would get paid for the amount of work they did and then they would leave.This sounds completely unworkable.>Show up to cafe >Nobody to make you coffee because nobody felt like it today>Show up to airport>Your flight is cancelled because the pilot decided to take the day off >Call fire brigade>They're all watching a movie, will have to wait You don't sound like someone with a lot of real world experience. I hope for your sake that you're just a kid.>this is still how it's viewed in most of the world that isn't industrializedPeople from those countries are constantly trying to move to industrialised countries.
>>214343932>people need to service ME, whenever it is convenient for ME, it is all about ME, ME ME ME MEYou deserve current year corporate hellscape.
>>214343932>You don't sound like someone with a lot of real world experienceI actually think the same about you. You must not have a lot of real life experience if you don't realize the state of bullshit jobs, how everyone is just LARPing competency while not knowing how anything works and not being productive, which you clearly see reflected in the decline of goods and services (even if you pay top dollar to access it) capitalism is decaying under its own weight as we speak because no one is incentivized to actually work or care about the quality of their work because there is no incentive structure in place as salary gets paid out no matter what. I probably do about 1-3 hours of real actual work at my highly paid 40 hour software engineering job.Think about it when you were young in the 1990s and you went to a restaurant, or got any other kind of service compared to now in 2025. The service was always better. Now when I go to a high class restaurant the food will take longer, the food is worse prepared, the waiters are extra fake-cheery for tips. Packages even for FedEx highest paid services are mishandled and mistreated. The quality of the most expensive phone/laptop hardware is more flimsy than it used to be.This is not an "inflation" problem because even the most premium of services and goods are declining in quality rapidly. It's a systemic failure of our economic system, precisely because capitalism doesn't work. It's similar to how quality of goods and services deteriorated in communist systems because workers didn't have any incentive to actually work. That same thing is happening in capitalism now. Notice how there are more and more shortages of goods as well (as in you cannot buy it no matter how much you want to pay for it), which shouldn't be the case on paper.
>>214343349>>214343868>In the book, Paul Thomas Anderson tells this story: “Kubrick had a really small crew...I asked him, ‘Do you always work with so few people?’ He gave me a look and said, ‘Why? How many people do you need?’ I felt like such a Hollywood asshole.”
>>214340172True
>>214344135trukeimo the biggest problem is that tiny shares of companies are bought and sold. idk how anyone really thinks a board of boomers can effectively decide things. they profitmax and reduce quality on everything and replace with more marketing. or buy up the competition so it's all the same thing.big privately owned companies can be ok but only until the founder dies or stops caring
>>214343830barons existed before the industrial revolution. people absolutely maximized profit. merchants existed. venice existed. google "tulip mania"capitalism will always exist. capitalism, and communism, are unavoidable, and are not incompatible with eachother. Capitalism is the innate desire for everyone to maximize profit, extrapolated to a societal scale. communism is the innate drive for communal responsibility, extrapolated to a societal scale. you can't get a working system that is entirely one or the other, because then you are ignoring an entire facet of human nature.
>>214339597the morgue scene turned me into a necrophiliac
>>214344637Tulip Mania was literally the first commodity bubble because capitalism was invented in Holland when the Tulip Mania happened. It was the first time capitalism in the modern meaning of the word, was tried.
>>214339597The low budget german version is much better and more unsettling just because the actors are much better
>>214343830you can't make it illegal for people to dictate the terms of profit sharing for their company. i think the societal problems you are talking about, have to do with corporatism, or harmful monopolizing, and oligopoliozing, and shady business practices born from corporate interests being in bed with government. >>214343849yea, becuase the situation is complicated. i'm not saying that highly unequal business agreements are ideal, i'm saying it would be harmful to society to make such agreements illegal. not everything that is bad should be illegal.>>214343906yes, this is true, because the current system is also flawed, how ever, if you literally made it illegal for corporations to dictate the terms of their profit sharing (within reason), this would likely ALSO have a blunting affect on work output to an extent, but this time, on the highest levels with regards to management and the companies executives, which is actually measurable and is a loss. basicaly, the tl;dr of my opinion is that capitalists and communists are both retarded for thinking that society can exist without aspects of both.
>>214343932people have literally experimented with businesses that work this way and they all fail misrebly. work out put is highest when people work to accomplish a higher goal then just their own immediate sustenance, people having obligation and responsibility increases their work output.
>>214343830>What I hate is every time you criticize capitalism, you get immediate autistic screeching about communism. As if there are only 2 choices possible.Americans are subhuman. It really is that simple.
>>214339597This shit was unwatchable.
>>214340893>In the commie timeline Epstein would have been a high ranking party official.This.The Soviet Union had their own Epstein:.
>>214344822I literally am a fan of Beria. That would have been me if I had the power to do so. Epstein though, that dude is just weird.Beria was a serial killer that enjoyed rape as a cherry on top of his lust for killing. Epstein was just a simp with a lot of money that was into fucking young girls, completely different vibes and energy from them.
This movie is about how jealousy within relationships drives us crazy. The conspiracy/dream stuff is just wallpaper. I wouldn't expect a board full of virgins to understand.
>>214344991I get it, whenever my girl is out with her friends for an evening I get that paranoid feeling. But you always have to pretend you don't care and fully trust her because otherwise you're controlling. I think every guy has the same experience.
>>214340128>PizzagateThat literally wasn't real
>>214344135Nigga you just got old and tired of the world. The waiters where just as fake cheery in the 90's so they could get their tips, you just werent jaded enough to notice it yet.
The conspiracy theories about this movie are so retarded I can't say if people posting them are serious or not.
>the hollywood illuminati jews have enough power and sway to kill Kubrick >but not the ability to have the film and its master copy be "lost" in a "mysterious fire"
>>214344380OK, but in this clip >>214343129 the guy claims the camera man says he only shot in NY. The movie was filmed in England. So, what point is trying to be made here? A guy didn't work on the movie. It's anecdotal and clearly nothing.
>>214345004You go out and walk the NY streets in your /fa/ outfit and stumble across a costumed orgy?
>>214345135>the overweight man in his late 70s with a history of overworking himself and smoking cigarettes was actually killed by le illuminati!
>>214345259No I go out and walk the San Francisco streets in my /fa/ outfit and stumble across a bunch of homeless trannies fucking each other under a bridge though. Does that count?
Read the x dossier and testimonies from the berlusconi bunga bunga bunga parties. It's real.
>>214345328>Eyes Wide Shut: 2025
>>214341299No idea but that's not the point of the thread
>>214343129Obvious nonsense
>>214339597Its about fidelity in marriage and how abusing that fidelity can lead you down dark paths. Its not that deep retards
>>214343463And then everyone clapped
>>214339639Anti-capitalist baiting is on the rise on the more mainstream/pop-culture boards lately, its best to just ignore them.
>>214339624>>214343403the LLM jew bot is here again
>>214345998close.the wife fucks a sailor and brags about dreaming about getting rapedthe doctor guy helps a naked chick and doesnt even look at her tits. then goes to a sex party and doesn't even fuck. then goes to a store and the teenage girl is like do you want to fuck me and he says no. then a prostitute offers free sex and he says no. then the masks threaten his wife and he worrys about her. then she has some kid from a bunch of guys shes been fucking behind his back and he still stays with her and raises it.the film is actually about women double standards and its funny that nobody ever realises that because its just such a normal every day thing you don't notice it at all in that film.
>>214346072She never fucked the sailor, she just wishes she did. It gives toms character an insecurity that he thinks sex will help with, but he is always stopped by himself or by happenstance. He never crosses the line, she never crosses that line, and at the end they realise their relationship woes are due to a lack of sex. You just have little success with modern women so youre projecting youre own insecurity onto the film. Which is fine btw, thats what makes EWS meaningful for you
>>214340144>Check out rob agers vids insteadAlready have, will never make that mistake again
>>214339597No it's complete ... complete garbage.>PROTIP: Your inability to prove me wrong is evidence of your tiny penis.
>>214346036Did you mean to post an image that wasn't two years old?
Nicole is a sex kitten, mk ultra victim and tom's handler.
>>214340128>pizzagate>realLOL
>>214345317you aren't clever or witty troon. The ball is modeled after a literal Rothschild party in the 70s. Kubricks entire filmology deals with elite, trauma mind control abuse. Piss off
>>214346109theres nuance to whether they are really repressed memories anons. Nicole is a victim in the film
>>214340101>rob agersI cannot stand Jay Dyer, but I cannot tell you why. He is not wrong nor is he a deranged leftist faggot. I just do not like him or how he presents his topics. He is like a bizarro world redditor who found Orthodoxy and conspiracy.Plus he glows like the freaking sun.
The movie is literally just a 1:1 copy of the novel it's based on, except the time and place it takes place in. Once you realize that, all these conspiracy theories look goofy. Whatever you think is some esoteric hidden motif exposing the illuminati was almost certainly just present in the book.
Kubrick developed a fear of flying after the 1972 plane crash in which dirty money was recovered from his involvement with the faked moon landing.
>>214343439>LITERALLYShut the fuck up. People are not equal and I am sick of the judeomarxist mind virus.
>>214347366Dyer does fantastic work, but likely a gatekeeper. He wont touch films like TDK, MiB, films that have specific military surveillance agendas. He will only broach the very surface level occult imagery, which he does very well i may add. But he wont ever encroach on how films directly influence the electorate
>>214343830>, where the majority of the bagI can tell you worship rap music and negro culture. Your opinion is disregarded.
>>214339597He died during the making of it.
>>214339958>gaining proof from people in power is easy>people in power wouldn't liekill yourself
>>214347425he used to, back in the daymilitary connections were one of the things hed always point outsold out, though
>>214339597yes. it shows very little
>>214339597where is Trump's cameo?
>>214343737That only tells a story about people, not the system.
>>214339597Yeah it's just missing the plot, reveal, and entertainment value other than that it's a great flick.>>214339624>those guys in the city are farming and sharing their crops with each other by mutual consent and payment processes>THAT ISN'T FAIR IT'S A CONSPIRACY WHERE'S MY SHARE, I SHOULD GET A SHARE I'VE BEEN STEALING FROM FARMERS ALL WEEKRaiderfags should kill themselves. Total agrichad victory.
>>214343652God, you're a retarded piece of shit. And even talking about revisionists as if you're not one, too. Holy fuck.
>>214343830The definition of capitalism, fascism, and everything other than your braindead psychopath bolshevism just changes to suit your current rant anyways. You're unconcerned with honesty or sincerity and just want to bring your "praxis" and realpolitik agitprop into any and every unrelated conversation, then bitch when even random people who just want to talk about a mid movie are less delusional and ignorant than you.Your problem always boils down to being with consent itself, no matter which dialectic line of reasoning you use, but you're always going to be pathetically certain that you're "anti"fascist and "anti"authoritarian.Maybe you should just kill yourself already.
>>214344037You deserve to die in a fire because you're callig people narcissistic and needy for wanting emergency services to operate when needed, not when your lazy ass gets around to noticing the building burned down five days ago.
>>214350344>Yeah it's just missing the plot, reveal, and entertainment value other than that it's a great flick.this is your brain on capeshit
>>214339597thats exactly how I felt when I watched this movie at 12.
>>214347366He is knowledgeable but the video/sound quality of his work is atrocious. Granted I have not gone to his website only YouTube and Spotify and it’s difficult to stay engaged. His best video I’ve seen was the shining explanation
>>214345196he might have been privy to info other didn't have? he could also be full of shit sure. but kubrick had a skeleton crew for his last film.
>>214353191What info? First off, lets ignore we're not even hearing from the camera man, but a guy who claims to have gotten drunk with him. He didn't work with the principal cast. What would he know? He was likely filming establishing shots of NY as a second unit, but Kubrick ended up not using it. The film takes place in NY, but it was not filmed there. It''s not some big mystery or magical cut content. Kubrick didn't film in NY, so it just sounds like bullshit, and should just be dismissed as that.
>>214340128Pizzagate was literally faked and only the dumbest of mouthbreathing retards still fall for that shit.As for your other point: Crass capitalism enables the kiddie fuckers enormously – just see the entire GOP.
