The original Pirates movie was so damn good. It has aged like fine wine.
>aged loke a fine wineALL movies from the 2000s have aged well. Why? Because movies today SUCK
>>214344436I just want more block buster movies with women dressed in pretty old timey clothes make corset kino great again!
Three fives
It looks grounded despite insane fantasy elements, and I don't know how to explain why
>>214344827thats unironically a good scene and a good game, but it got butchered in the editing.
>>214344840because it wasnt all cheap CGI made by indian sweatshops
>>214344436The first one is a perfect film in every way. The second and third don't have the best screenplays, but the casting and the production design are so insanely good that one overlooks any issues.
>>214344827To this day I still have no idea if they're trying to get more years or fewer.
But WHY is the rum gone?
>>214344486/thread
Bloom and Keira Knightley ruined the sequels, they were such boring leads.
The first one is a 10/10 movie. 2 and 3 are a bit bloated but still very fun and worth rewatching from time to time. The ones after that are utter shit and I hate them so much.
>>214344436>>214345404I only recently learned the general consensus is that 2 is bad and 3 is good. I thought for 20 years people loved 2 for Davy Jones. But apparently his CGI was the only really good part of it and it suffers from middle-sequel reception (and the goofy meandering aspects with Jack being flanderized/leaned into).Feels like mandela effect level shit for me personally to find out the third film is preferred.
>>214345003There's no question that the wagers were to shift years toward the loser. So are you thinking they may have been trying to lose?
>>214344436Guybrush Threepwood? In a blockbuster? It is more likely than you think, click here to find out why.
>>214345445I think you may have been shifted from another dimension. In this one the consensus is 3 is a bloated overwrought mess that has some high highs but just as many low lows and generally drags on too much. Both sequels are considered to be generally inferior to the original but 3 catches a lot more criticism than 2. Personally I really like them all even recognizing that structurally the original is leagues ahead of the rest
>>214345520Not the anon you're responding to but I've wondered this as well. Weren't they there because they are trying to avoid death? Davey Jones offers them servitude to put off their passage to the afterlife, so why are they gambling for fewer years? I guess they realise their mistake, is that it?
>>214345638I had reason to look this up like 6 months ago and everything I saw at the time was suggesting 2 was worse than 3. When my entire life I've understood the consensus to be basically what you just described.
>>214345404>The first one is a 10/10 movie.Jack volunteers dozens of English sailors to die during the final battle and everyone is cool with it after
>>214345803Oh sorry, you're right. It's actually an 11/10.
>>214344959>kino story>kino script >kino sets>kino costumes >kino fights/stunts>kino soundtrack Depp/Rush are megakino, Bloom/Knightley are ok and don't detract anything, probably every actor's peak performance. Sequels are too bloated though they have their moments. Shit from Pirates 4 onward.
>>214344436I was pretty hyped when Dead Man's Chest was about to come out on account of Bill Nighy as Davy Jones.
I prefer LeChuck's Revenge, and Orlando Bloom is awful in everything
>>214346007knightley is beautiful and makes the movie better by being pretty
>>214345788ignore people who say this. everyone knows that 1>2>3. the people who like 3 are simple lorefags
>>214344827Four fours
>>214344436I presume that the Pirates movies dont get talked about, especially since the 1st one is S tier easy. because disney and me too delusional women were so sure that depp was a piece of shit.
On Stranger Tides is underrated and is better than 2/3
>>214345803Everyone is okay with it? You mean like Norrington who had him put to death? Yeah he was totally okay with it. Or I suppose you mean Will and Elizabeth who were in the unique position to know that the Pearl's pirates were invincible and so understood Jack's need to get them out of the cave. It's almost like the main cast are meant to have become more like pirates by the end or something.
>>214344486It's funny watching old tv shows from the 90s that had no budget so everything looks kinda shitty but they manage to sell the story so much better than anything modern with 100x the budget due to competent writing and casting
>>214346450You ought to feel exceptionally embarrassed by this post
>>2143460071 is best, 2 is good. 3 lost its magic. 4 is god awful 5 is good.
>You now remember Dead Men Tell No TalesAt least Barbossa had a kino ending for us.
>>214346495Why, because pirate adventures are more exciting than Orlando Bloom whining about his daddy issues?
>>214344436>Pirates
>>214346541>Jenaveve JolieKino.
>>214346485It's crazy how not even main channel "off brand" tv shows from the 90s and shit are a million times better than current 'VIRAL HIT OF THE YEAR' streamer shows are right now. I'd rather watch Dawson's Creek, Buffy, Dr. Quinn, or anything else like that then 90% of the shit being slopped out right now.
>>214346516It's a shame but Disneys fault. Hiring two retarded nobody duo directors. Then they rejected Terry Rusios script for it (original writer for 1 to 4). Depp being fat and literally drunk thanks to Heard. And his severed finger during filming they had to cgi the bandage out, thanks to Heard.It could have been a decent one if Depp actually looked and acted like Sparrow, which you only really see right at the very end with his last scene.
>>2143462693 has the best scene and quote in the series that heralded everything that came after.
>>214346573Yeah if Sparrow acted like Sparrow I wouldn't have even cared. The entire drunk retard act was fucking horrible to sit through. I feel like they dumbed every character down in the movie.
>>214346573There’s literally a perfect ending with a quick rewrite to the finale >Salazar has the trident at Jacks throat at the bottom of the sea ready to take his revenge. >Jack realizes he must break the trident to break all curses/magic “You know Spanish I’ve come to realize. Take away my crew. My compass. My crew. My Hat. I have nothing. I even started to believe myself. But there’s one very important thing you’ve forgotten mate. I’m Captain Jack Sparrow. Savvy?>Jack brings his cutlass down shattering the trident. You keep Barbosa and his sacrifice but give Jack a moment of realization and self confidence he’s been lacking.
>>214346541>half of these whores are dead now
>>214346541sequel was better
>>214346668that's what it was missing, Jack's witty dialogue. Instead he's literally bumbling and making weird noises throughout.
The first succeeded despite all odds. Nobody had faith that a movie based on a theme park ride could succeed.Eisner almost killed the film several times over with various acts of studio interference.
>>214346541their assholes must of burned.
>>214346226Wasn't she 17? Supposedly in BTS interviews she had to have her mother on set regularly for a lot of scenes owing to legal requirements because of it.
>>214344827
>>214344436It's absolute kino and they really don't make them like that anymore
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>>214344827three zeros.
>>214347034Keira looked 21 at 15 (in a good way) so we give everyone a pass for lusting after her back then
When I first saw 3 I was pissed off. They killed the Kraken OFF SCREEN??? Huh??? Why??? I just remember being a kid after seeing 2 and wondering how they were going to kill this Kraken, he seemed almost unbeatable. Imagine Return of the Jedi just skipped over everything related to Jabba the Hutt and Boba Fett, and instead Darth Vader just had some line saying "Luke, just like I killed Boba Fett and Jabba the Hutt, we can kill the Emperor!" Everyone would be pissed off. Then all the bullshit with Calypso, it was just a bit lame in execution but a cool concept as they built up to it. Anyway, I have watched the movie a few times since over the years and I still can't get over how dirty they did the Kraken. That was what made Jones so scary in the first place, not his teleporting or his lumbering barnacle heads.
>>214344827Three threes
>>214347237Killing Kraken off screen and the remark about it is the whole point. Immaterial become material, age of piracy was over and even literal mythical beasts aren't enough to keep good business at bay.
>>214344486Its crazy how we shit on movies back then as being medicore or even bad when nowadays they look like goddamn masterpieces compared to the jeet aimed sloppa we deal with now.
>>214347237But it gave us the most kino scene of the trilogy
>>214345803Oh no a bunch of peasant brainlets with no inherent worth who signed up for the opportunity to loot and rape or escape the law whose whole job it is to die...le died? Jack was a real crumbum for setting that up ):<
>>214347442>>214347520Oh for fucks sake fine I will watch the movies again tonight
>>214346541The only man who could beat Jack.
Norrington and Rangetti were my favorite characters
Are there any fan edits of 3 that trims the fat? I'm not sure if I've even watched it since the cinema, I just remember being so annoyed at the giant Calypso and her turning into crabs.
All the pirates of the caribbean movies are great. I rewatch them every year. I call it the pirate marathon and even make sandwhiches sometimes
>>214347099>not being a naked teenager in a shower while Keira laughs at your erect little peepee
>>214344436Is there an extended cut? I don't remember CG in this film since I never saw the sequels.
>>214344840Most people would say it's physical sets but it's the elements. Wind, water, sand, heat, things are wet or dirty, people are sweaty etc. It's one thing to build sets or scout locations but what you really want is to breathe life into them.
>>214344436>Thought Black Pearl was ok, but didn’t really get the hype >Loved Dead Man’s Chest for Davy Jones and the Kraken>Hated At World’s End because the script was a bloated confused mess>Saw Stranger Tides, but I remember precisely nothing about it>Never bothered watching “YAGSBARRO”I haven’t watched the these movies in almost 20 years, but I’m so starved for decent movies that I’m thinking about giving them another go.
for me its
>>214348661You think the skeleton pirates were practical effects?
>>214344959>>214345404I know 2 is the one movie that doesn't have Barbossa in it, but I still consider it the best one. Even despite the low energy scenes with Will and his dad on Davy Jones' crew. It's just so nicely put together that even I could tell what makes it so good.
>>214347553Grats on having a great movie night tonight. It probably won't quell what upset you in the first place, but I hope the kino moments and the amazing score uplifts your spirit.
>>214348607What sandwiches do you make?
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i know it's a pale imitation of PotC and i know it's mediocre and full of woke shit, but i enjoyed jungle cruise despite all that. i am a sucker for pre-WW1 settings, and the scene where the conquistadores gets BTFO by the jungle demons is so damn good. the soundtrack there really hits
>>214348782it's been awhile... I don't remember the pirates in pirates of the caribbean
>>214347592>The only man who could beat Jackoff
>>214349398the scene where barbossa says "you best start believing in ghost stories" was pretty mindblowing to me at the time. not revolutionary, we had great CGI in LotR movies etc, but having that kind of transformation happen front and center and in focus felt like a new watermark for quality
Elizabeth Swan was the first time the concept of "girl boss" ever appeared in my mind. Obviously girl boss didn't exist as a term back then, but that one scene in the third movie where she's all dirtied up, and they tell her to drop her weapons, and she drops a ton of scary looking weapons, and then people in the movie theater laughed, as if saying "uh oh don't mess with her!"It left a bad taste in my mouth after seeing her as useless and girly in the first movie. I've never seen it so blatantly, and it has poisoned girl bosses for me ever since. It wasn't planted in my head by angry /pol/tards
>>214348792I don't get why barbosa is so liked, and why they kept forcing him back in. I didn't think he was "popular"
>>214344827Two two's.
>>214346226Is this the best anyone has ever looked in film? Hard to think of a more beautiful face
>>214344436Cutthroat Island is a proto-Pirates of the Carribean which is also pretty kino despite bombing at the time
>>214344827I check.
>>214344827Go fish,you fucking knave.
>>214344436I genuinely hate Orlando Bloom, he's a shit actor and seems genuinely retarded in real life.He and Katy Perry were perfect for each other.
>>214349528geoffery rush owns the character so hard and he clearly was having a ton of fun with it. jack was my guy as a kid but barbossa is my favorite as a crusty boomer
>>214351054he was great in kingdom of heaven, which was kino
>>214346226She is really quite pretty
>>214351147Was he though? The film was good and other actors were good but he's always wooden as fuck and has negative charisma when he speaks
>>214346541Me and the boys watched this back in highschool. Absolute kino, we still quote it from time to time.
>>214345003>>214345520>>214345736The game was gambling but they all net gained years. Time wasn't being transferred between them, only added to them. Otherwise how could one wager an eternal soul?
>>214346226>You'll be dining with the crew - and you'll be naked.The audience is titillated by the prospect same as the crew and has the same reaction when denied.
>>214344436Will was a bland milquetoast character and Knightly was an obnoxious jutty-jaw girl boss. Depp and Rush carry the whole thing.
>>214347034>Wasn't she 17? Supposedly in BTS interviews she had to have her mother on set regularly for a lot of scenes owing to legal requirements because of it.I don't remember this specific part about a parent needing to be on set. But she was 17 indeed, and there was something about her not being allowed to touch chalices with wine or some other similar alcohol-related legal restriction.(I'm sure most alcohol on sets is fake anyway, but I can imagine that in some shots and in some interactions wine needs to look and behave like wine)
>>214349506It was just a joke about women being able to hide a lot of shit in their clothes you jackass.
>>214345803Even Jack is capable of doing good sometimes. “Oy, do have a loicense for that tea yet drinkin?”“Uh, no….”“Well that’s bloody well treason innit”
>>214349745She is distractingly beautiful. I saw Pride & Prejudice this week at a local theater and even in that role where the director specifically told her not to pay much attention to her looks she is gorgeous. They're showing Atonement next week and she's even more ridiculously beautiful in that film. Lucky us!
>>214348954Isn't Disney Cruise far more of a Mummy 1999/2001 ripoff?Admittedly I still haven't actually seen it. I remember the trailers and also I saw a little bit of the movie itself in passing on someone else's tv.But I think the character archetypes and the whole setup feel very Mummy, from what I know about the story here.
>>214354598>Will was played by a bland milquetoast actor and Knightly was an gorgeous spirited female lead. Depp and Rush are great in their respective characters as well.ftfy
>>214351125In the commentary track (or some other similar material) for the first film, Geoffrey Rush says that while filming the scenes when Elizabeth is captured and is taken to Black Pearl, he developed a theory about how the viewer's gaze would be drawn to the funny monkey and the beautiful girl, so he suggested to block the scenes with him and Keira (and the monkey) so that they would often be Barbossa-monkey-Elizabeth, left-to-right.I'm not sure it makes much sense (eyes don't scan the frame horizontally left to right anyway) but it feels like a comment that would probably make someone irrationally angry these days.
>>214344840It was a good period piece with a fantasy movie nested inside it.
>>214344840>>214355235POTC 1 in particular isn't even all that fantastical.Obviously, YES, the curse and the undead pirates. But it's essentially the one fantastical element in it. It's not a movie set in a fantasy land where this shit is a part of the rules of the world. It's explicitly set in the real world. Somewhat embellished / movie-like / PG-13 version of the real world, but much in the same way as any other grounded adventure movie that remembers that it needs to be fun and a bit larger-than-life.The curse of undead pirates is something that catches everyone in the film off guard. It also doesn't invite any other Le Random Crazy Stuff to start happening just because this specific element is unrealistic. It's not very different from some rare/unusual natural phenomenon that characters could experience.It's also not treated by the story as "hey look, this is a movie about undead creatures". It's a story about pirates and adventures first and foremost.
the soundtrack is also kinotoo bad Johnny is now too fat and old to properly play Jack
>>214344436A bit too "low-brow family-friendly slapstick disney" on a third rewatch. The real pirate kino is the fan edit of 3 found here:https://faneditsdesamuelbarilla.blogspot.com/2014/09/pirates-of-caribbean-extended-editions.html
Pirates and Finding Nemo came out within weeks of each other. Ocean chads ate good that summer.
>>214356140Where is the fish gone?
>>214349528because he was born for that role. he is like how JG Hertzler played Martok to perfection in DS9, chewing the scenery and sucking on every syllable in every line he had like it was hard candy but it just works because of how much he obviously enjoys himself
>>214344827It's a fun game.I remember playing with some friends, betting drinks.
>>214345404I didn't like 2 when I saw it in theaters years and years ago, but always liked Black Pearl, which I recently rewatched. I'm gonna watch Dead Man's Chest again this weak, and At world's End, if I like 2 of course. So 2 and 3 still hold up as decent if you liked Curse of the Black Pearl? So what's the best parts of 2 and 3? I know Davy Jone's CGI is supposed to be fantastic, but what else do 2 and 3 have going for it? Is Jack Sparrow really entertaining? What about the villains?
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>>214355349It's not really much different to the sort of tall-tale story someone in the 18th century would've told in a Caribbean bar. The world still had unexplored parts in it in those days and a lot of bullshit rumors got believed. Pirates 3 would've been out the gate with the Singaporean pirate council and massive war and shit, and failed the sniff test for that reason. It's like the movie 300, that's exactly how the Spartans would've made the movie and told their story.
>>214344526>make corset kino great again!this
>>214359952>>214359952>>214359952Bump
>>214346516YAG
>>214344436I agree, and compared to modern Hollywood blockbusters these movies look even better than they are.
>>214346485Star trek TNG is this
>>214349528He's the perfect stereotype pirate captain archetype, able to go toe to toe with jack in terms of charisma, and a good character for all the weird pirates around him to bounce off of. As a kid I used to not like Barbossa, now I see him as being equally as cool as Jack.
>>214344436natalie portmans looks great there
>>214351054He's a perfect straight man lead
>>214344840It looks grounded because you can imagine everyone being stinky and smelly. Almost every character in the movie looks like a typical hobo you would encounter in downtown of a big city. Kiera Knightley even tells you how stinky Johnny Depp is in the movie.
>>214359601you forgot my nigga van helsing
>>214362134>PotC>The Mummy>National Treasure>Van Helsing>Sahara>Indiana Jones>Unchartedone of my favorite genres
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>No on-topic post nor image, a router that doesn't have a proxy, and I half expected it to be rangebanned.>You are without a doubt the worst poster I've ever heard of.
>>214362275>Joe Pancake
>>214355191It is the commentary track but it's Keira who tells that story. Pretty funny commentary actually. She does it with the actor who played Norrington and together they're good. The commentary is for select scenes for some reason and doesn't cover the whole film.
>I feel... coldhttps://youtu.be/BUgWYUg1dzk
