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Explain to me how this isn't one of the biggest bombs in cinema history

>indirectly caused numerous DC movies to bomb beforehand because everyone knew Gunn had rebooted the universe
>rumored to have a 200m production + 200m marketing budget, which was later on toned down by WB
>massive ad and shilling campaigns all over the world and Internet
>Can't put Reeves Batman 2 in production because Gunn wants Batman aswell
>Movie releases to extremely forced shill narrative of muh optimistic DC
>Extremely mid box office performance, can barely edge out MoS domestically not factoring in increased ticket prices and is a complete flop internationally
>Even on /tv/ there are more threads on MoS than this one
>all online discourse is still about the Snyder movies
>rushed prematurely to digital, way earlier than older WB boomer movie F1
>paid heavy bot campaigns on twitter for viral of likes and AI engineered positive comments to manipulate real people to follow what they perceive promoted as "popular" but the box office is a failure and don't reflect all the campaign of bots on twitter for this movie
>james gunn kills the DC universe showing in Peacemaker his sexual fetish in being inadequate tiny dick men used as soft and small and cuckold fetish in men of other races picked to be put with dick hard and bigger maybe because James Gunn is a old cuckold who have this kind of sexual fetish with his wife behind the camera since he is overly sexual (too many sexual fantasies) and make jokes even with kids who make Disney end his contract.
>barely hit 600m WW

How the fuck is this the hit shills claim it is? It has all but destroyed DC.

James Gunn killed DC and nobody will want to watch something from the same universe of Peacemaker

Let me guess, James Gunn will try to destroy the Batman from Matt Reeves, and then if he is not fired he will make his Batman have daddy issues like Gamora, Starlord, Rocket, Yundu, Peacemaker and will create a pet for Batman like Eagly, Rocket, Groot
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>>214370970
Does anyone else remember when Superman made more profit from theaters alone than MoS did in its entire net profit?
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>>214370970
jeezus tl;dr kys
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So you saw the thread about Superman making more profit than MoS and decided to seethe?
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>>214370970
Kys sunderjeet
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>>214371221
>ME OWN FOOKIN' SON!
>A SNYDERJEET!
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>>214370970
Justice League made 60M more than this with twice the budget, all the Marvel movies bombed this year too, that's why even with mediocre numbers and barely no profit it was a ""success"", let's see how the next movies do but I expect even worse numbers and another reboot in 2028.
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It's gonna be a sad day when Zaslav sells off DC to some Saudi prince
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Any Peacemaker fans here?
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>>214371490
>He is just like Deadpool but also The Boys and KPop Demon Hunters, he is angrier, louder, and has access to a time machine .....
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>>214370970
It's going make 125 million in profit, retard
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/warner-bros-box-office-historic-streak-conjuring-last-rites-1236510864/
>But the remaining lineup has delivered some enviable profit margins. Case in point: “Sinners” is expected to generate around $60 million in theatrical profits; “Superman” around $125 million; “Final Destination: Bloodlines” approximately $75 million; “Weapons” around $65 million (and counting), according to knowledgeable individuals.
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>>214370970
>>214370970
>Explain to me how this isn't one of the biggest bombs in cinema history
Because it objectively didn't lose money and there have been a shitton of movies that lost huge amounts of money. Doomsday has a 1 Billion production budget and the marketing will be a horrorshow.
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>>214370990
IKWYDLS 2025 was profitable (it cost next to nothing) but nobody saw it so the franchise is dead. Profit isn't a simple talking point when fewer people watched this version of Superman despite population growth in 12 years
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>>214371531
They counted on the faulty 200m budget instead of the actual 360m + 200m marketing budget. It's still in the red.
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>>214371578
>profit means nothing
>also population growth
>yes COVID had no impact on movies
>also inflation
>Man of Steel made more money
>also profit means nothing
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I love reading about soiboys online blaming Snyder for Starlordman flopping. As if Gunn ever made a single successful movie outside of the MCU brand. As if all his WB movies haven't been flops. As if the studio who hired him didn't force him to majorly revise the tone of the movie upon realizing he just made GoTG again.

All the shill lines are there. If it flops, blame Snyder. If it's a hit, blame Snyder. Whatever you do, don't talk about how every trailer of this movie looked like complete ass and the movie's entire gimmick was "look Superman saves cats again".

Audiences don't care about these fanboy wars. They were advertised a money that looked too childish, cartoonish and slap stick for them to bother.
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>>214371616
The profit numbers are false and taken out of the blue by some external blogger.
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>>214371531
>according to knowledgeable individuals.
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>>214371635
Ah yes. Variety famously takes random information from external bloggers.
Nothing they report on is true, it's just gossip.
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>>214371616
>>profit means nothing
Nobody said this, they said profit has be put in context
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>>214371626
>childish
>cartoonish
Oh no...
Please don't make the flying man childish and cartoonish...
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>>214371701
This but unironically
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>>214371713
Why do studios make movies?
What would you consider the number one reason for Warner Bros. to make and release a new film into theaters?
Incorporate all the context you want for that question.
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>>214371701
Yes exactly
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>>214371722
IT'S JUST A FANTASY MOVIE WHY DO YOU CARE THAT THE DRAGONS ARE ALSO LGBTQ CODED?!?!?!
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>>214370970
seeing faggots on this board constantly shill this film has made be hate it
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>>214371749
>thinks comic books are for adults
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>>214371771
I wasn't reading a comic book bitch
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>>214370970
>all but destroyed DC
>direct sequel greenlit 2 years from now
Meanwhile WB never got around to Man of Steel 2
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>>214371360
>>214371578
>>214371608
>>214371635
>>214371728
>>214371741
Why should anyone take figures about Sneeder's films profitably as gospel but ignore the same reporting about other films? If the numbers are inherently unreliable then that's true for both.
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>>214371769
At this point I think retarded threads like this are meant to be reverse psychology
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>>214371813
>no saar dis is not comic book dis is sirious film saar about comic book man
>tank you fuhking bloody
>morning bich
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>>214371771
>>214371813
>>214371841
>serious movie
>adaptation of stories made for kids

lol
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>>214371864
It's funny and sad.
The world has a serious problem with grown men who think superheroes should be taken seriously.
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>>214371841
Saaars you will love the Bollywood poo movie!!
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>>214371878
Siiiirs!! You will love CGI dog licking CGI babby as Starlordman is hilariously stuck in Minecraft lava

SIR
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>>214371004
Says who?
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>>214371626
>THE SHILLS
>THE ELITES
>THE SNYDER
do you guys ever get tired? Saying the tone is it's gimmick is like saying Snyder's gimmick was "le grimdark." It was just the fucking tone.
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>>214370970
It already passed 6 million and it's getting two sequels.
Cope and seethe.
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>>214372564
*600 million
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>>214371626
>As if Gunn ever made a single successful movie outside of the MCU brand
Don't forget his Suicide Squad was one of the biggest flops of DC, while the first movie made around 900 million on theaters alone and was a huge success on bluray.

Also the only Oscar of the Snyderverse which is a big kek
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>>214370970
Look up domestic box office
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>>214370970
It used to be normal to measure a movie's success on whether ir not it broke $1 billion. At least it was that way before lockdowns.

>How the fuck is this the hit shills claim it is? It has all but destroyed DC.
>shills
You answered your own question.
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>>214371608
Can you please show where these numbers came from?
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>>214371968
Without mentioning Gunn or Synder, what would you want to see in a superman movie ?
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>>214370970
>It has to bomb!!! it has to bomb!! it just has to! it has to!!!! you don't understand, it can't have succeeded, it can't have made money because it HAS TO BOMB!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

hang in there, OP. you'll get through this, I promise.
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>>214370970
It looks like James Gunn saw my comment about Black Adam is closer making a profit than Superman.Then paid variety to post this with his 15 mil payday from superman to cover his ass in the industry kek

Normalman (2025/Tier 1 Superhero)
>budget: $363 mil (Marketing/Pedo Shill's paycheck and Re-shoots not included)
>Profit = Budget x2.5 = $907 mil
>box office: $611 mil
>needs to make 296 mil to make a profit
Litty Adam 2022 (Inflation not included/Tier 3 Supervillain)
>budget:$200 mil
>Profit = Budget x2.5 =500 mil
>box office:393 mil
>needs to make only 107 mil to make a profit
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>>214373033
nobody is reading your comments thoughbeit
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>>214373033
He definitely did this and it was definitely because of you.
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>>214373033
Where are these numbers coming from?
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>>214373123
>responding to a low-IQ schizo with sincerity
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>>214373156
Honestly I'm just curious. People against this new movie have all these numbers and calculations.
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>>214370970
Because it won
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>>214373193
He probably got it from his favorite ChudTuber. Who really cares, it's not worth arguing with a literal retard.
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>>214371608
t.
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>>214373123
you tell me
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>>214373033
Why are pajeets so fucking schizophrenic?
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>>214373258
I can't tell if you're a retard who is incapable of comprehending that document properly, or if you're retarded enough to believe that others are going to fall for it. In either case, it doesn't bode well for you.
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>>214371520
>He is just like Deadpool
He is nothing like Deadpool. Peacemaker is 100% seriouse when killing people and has a conscience unlike the amoral Deadpool.
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>>214370970
Your English is so bad that it turned me Indian just from reading it
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Damn jeetspammer blown the FUCK out, there's no coming back from this
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>>214370970
Almost nothing of what you listed has anything to do with a "bomb".
A disaster, sure, but a box office bomb is one specific thing.
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>>214370970
The Snyderverse is dead forever. And that's a very GOOD thing!
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>>214370970
>Bombs so hard cancels DCU into superman saga
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>sequel fast tracked
>$125 million in profit just in theaters
>BTFOs three major MCU movies just in 2025
So now that WB is the top dog thanks to the superchad what IPs should get for pennies? I'm thinking star wars for a few hundred millies could be a good it
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>>214373395
Making fun of BvS were some good times
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>>214373395
Which of these two men has sucked more cocks?
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>>214373423
Less than the man who sees a picture of two guys and immediately thinks about sucking cocks
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>>214371733
Studios usually want signs of growth, that's why MOS looked promising compared to attendance for Superman Returns despite seemingly doing everything right by making a Donner pseudo-sequel
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>>214373491
I'm guessing Henry. Affleck isn't gay but he definitely sucked at least three cocks when he was young twink and trying to break into the industry. Henry is a complete homo and probably sucks black dicks daily.
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>>214372971
nta but we already had the perfect movie in 1979, it's hard to improve such an iconic movie. It's like remaking Star Wars or LotR every 5 years, you may like some aspects of the new versions but they can't compete with the GOAT.
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>>214372971
I want Brainiac already, it's ridiculous wee haven't gotten a live action rendition of him yet.
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>>214373790
Brainiac, Metallo, Bizarro, Parasyte, Intergang. The funny thing is, all of them could work along Luthor since producers love him so much. But noooo, let's go with Luthor/Zod AGAIN
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>>214371626
Fuck them for making her dark grey instead of glossy silver.
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>>214375230
Probably wanted her to look different from Silver Surfer. In the end she looks like generic shit.
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>OG poster killed himself realizing he wont check other boxes
Ita all fun and gamea but please dont hero
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>>214371936
SAAR!!
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>>214370970
Eplain to me why in your pics we see snyder laughing even if he has no career after all those bad movies and cavill laughing even if man of murder was reviled and onl yangry gays are obsessed with him now?
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>>214375398
DELETE THE BOXES

STOP THE COUNT
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Superman 2025 is one of the worst superhero movies of all times. James Gunn, who excels in directing overdone violence, out of place quips, undeserved melodrama and perverted sex obsession brings all his trademark traits to this rendition of Superman. This isn't a Superman movie, it's a Marvel/Guardians of Galaxy movie with Superman in the middle of it. In fact, Gunn seems to enjoy writing Justice Gang far more than he does writing Superman. The former which ran off two jokes that were repeated ad nauseam throughout the movie.

What makes Superman a compelling character is gone in Gunn's sloppy adaption. He's not particularly strong, he's not particularly wise, he's a poor leader, he's extremely narcissist and gets easily emotional. And this is supposed to be a seasoned Superman. It's almost like Gunn was projecting his own shitty flawed character on to Superman. The only missing touch would be if Lois was a minor.

The action scenes are just a complete mess of CG blob. Superman is basically a rag doll that gets thrown all over the place and nothing in this movie has weight or meaning to it, particularly in its action. There's a scene where Lois and Mr Terrific break into enemy HQ and the whole ordeal is of course settled with a very catchy music montage of all the enemies being dismantled with utter ease. The next scene is of Clark trying to keep a CGI baby from drowning in lava with his deus ex dog arriving in timely manner to save him again. This is straight out of a Marvel movie and has no place in a Superman movie.

This rendition of Lex is also his most shallow depiction. There is no nuance or intelligence to this Lex. He's not particularly shrewd and constantly spills out his plans for everyone to find out. He throws into temper tantrums just like Superman and starts to sob and cry because Superman is better than him. Where is the elegance and intelligence of Luthor? This is basically a spoiled rich kid battling another spoiled strong kid. 1/10, MCU slop.
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>The Superman we all know and love!!11!!

Let's his super powered dog harass and mutilate humans

Cries over mean tweets

Prioritizes squirrels amidst immense destruction and danger

Can't see Lex is issuing commands to Ultraman when they're literally 10 meters apart

Tortures leaders of sovereign nations and lets his buddies kill them

Can't do anything on his own, needs either his dog or Justice Gang to bust his ass out every time
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>>214371692
>A studio insider disputed these figures without providing specific numbers
WB source refuted the article lmao. “$125 million profit” is impossible with the $363 million production budget.
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>>214376015
Imagine spewing so much shit that even WB tells you shut the fuck up. That's a new low.
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>>214371701
Penske media Variety and the same writer declared Thunderbolts a commercial hit before admitting it flopped at the box office.
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>>214376115
Why is Variety so fucking trash and retarded?
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>>214375398
Kek
He was so full of hope
Ita unreal
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>>214376145
A mix of clickbait and paid articles. They live in the now, they "print" whatever turn into quick profit and pretend to have no memory next day.

Honestly people who reads their articles must have no memory so everyone's happy.
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>>214375398
>>214376145
Penske media are Hollywood shills. Read World of Reel by Jordan Ruimy.
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>>214376015
based Tom Hardy
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>>214376234
Bong earned $856 million opening the franchise without Spider-Man or any other superhero unlike Gunn’s Superman who had three other superheroes in the movie.
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>>214370990
Because Net profit is the real figure by the end of the year
"Theaters profit" is a meaningless term that doesn't take into account any other expenses
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Nobody knows shit how studios make a profit. All you can go by is how studios react to the movie. MOS didn’t get a sequel fast tracked. Instead they demanded Batman be in next one while looking for other directors to direct MOS 2. They were really trying to get George Miller. Now look at Superman. Got Zaslov gushing over it and and the follow up is fast tracked with a title now and release date of only two years after Superman when most sequels come out three years
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>>214370970
this board is absurd
everyone I know loved this movie and came out of it filled with optimism for the future
the credits song is great
/tv/ really needs to get out more
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>>214377861
It’s just angry Snyder fag. Nothing about this movie should cause anyone to seeth about
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Nobody likes the boomer who did pedophile jokes with kids and was fired from marvel and Superman is pure generic garbage with the same Daddy Issues, Rocky Balboa speech, pets, and all repetitive shit of Guardians of the Galaxy movie, James Gunn flopped with Suicide Squad, Superman and TV shows and movies, and have not of optimist for the people when they see the orgy scene in Peacemaker in the universe of Superman with the race of gays, cucks and with intentional flaccid small dicks and the men with half-hard dicks or prothestic to look bigger than the inadequate gays who James Gunn was projecting himself since maybe he is a cuck in real life and Jennifer Holland is his hotwife.

James Gunn scene for kids watch this kind of sexual brainwashing, the same man who was fired from marvel because of sexual jokes with kids, in a universe full of murder, much darker than the Snyder who was just a adult universe, not a brain dead sexually depraved daddy issues and fetish universe full of murder and cheap scenes like garbage James Gunn, who the lunatic here is trying to cope and saying Indian Indian when anyone who defends James Gunn is a supporter of all horrible social engineering garbage who geriatric repulsive corporate industry men working for Hollywood wanted to push as social engineering for the average people. Generic murder, fetish, gay cuck orgy, horrible, James Gunn is horrible in everything and will have more flops and Superman will be considered even a worse movie too, if it's already being considered a bad movie now, imagine in 3 months or 1 year. Spider-Man No Way Home made nearly 2 billion in Box Office and was considered a bad movie after the hype ended, imagine James Gunn Superman will be considered complete trash, and even more since people will start to see it related to Peacemaker and feel even more disgust of James Gunn universe and Superman
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>>214370970
watch The Producers. any version will do.
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They ruined a DC universe that had the right tone when people were fatigued by the cheap jokes of Taika Waititi and James Gunn.

They tried to make DC like the MCU, full of excessive jokes after Justice League. Since everyone knew the DC universe would be rebooted under James Gunn, the movies after Justice League and before him lost money, and the movies under James Gunn, like Suicide Squad and Superman, flopped. His TV show Peacemaker S1 and S2 or Commandos also had low viewership.
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>>214378658
Pure cope. WW3 didn’t happen because Jenkins walked off because of creative differences. Aquaman 2 bombed because it sucked and people boycotting because of Amber Heard. The Flash bombed because of Ezra. Peacemaker is doing great for a nobody side character and will get a season 3.
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>>214378477
I genuinely don't give a fuck about any of this nonsense all I care is whether it was a good movie and whether it made the world and the zeitgeist a better place. And to my eyes, that it did.

Somewhat related but you'll also notice that /tv/ still refuses to accept that DUNC 1 & 2 were meteorically successful
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>>214378658
nigga there was nothing to ruin
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>>214378547
Both Gunn and Snyder are retarded. Gunn has the brain of a 13yo that watches MTV and fap all day and Snyder is the autistic fuck that draw his own comics all day and fap to Frank Miller's art all night.

No wonder that assexual drone called Christopher Nolan is the most successful among them, he may be a freak of his own but at least he keeps his shit in the closet and pretends to be a functional adult.
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>>214370970
Just because some retards thought it would make 1bil doesn't mean WB thought it would.
When you factor in the world wide gross, plus the money from sponsorships and online purchases and rentals, Superman 2025 made money. Not a great profit, but a profit.
I mean The Batman was a success, too, and it made just as much as Superman more or less.

Superman 2025 also got people excited and generally got good press and reviews.
Therefore WB seems to be cautiously optimistic.

>Muh Man of Steel made more!
Man of Steel also costed much more. And made more money in places which give less to the studios. They both didn't make a profit solely on their box office revenue.
But factor in other ways of revenue, and it made money.

Superman 2025 did a bit better when you consider it's substantially better reception.
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>>214379276
> Therefore WB seems to be cautiously optimistic.

WB is being anything but cautiously optimistic. They fast tracking a sequel only two years after release. That shows insane amount of confidence which means this movie blew their expectations out of the water.



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