What's the point of an AI movie having a 30 million dollar budget? Isn't AI meant to make film making cheaper more accessible?Feels really counter intuitive to try and legitamise it by giving it a bigger budget
because 30 mil is cheap compared to capeshitlol at delusional AI fags who thought any random dumbass would make movies
>>214394963Money laundering and Hollywood accounting. This should be a wake up call if anything
>>214395018>30 mil is cheapYou can pay thousand people thirty thousand dollars each. Read that slowly.For an AI movie hat's a fuck huge team of very well paid nerds.
>>214394963How does ChatGTP make money in general? That is me assuming it even does. Is it one of those things where it is the promise of being super profitable in the future that sees it get invested in and gets values so high? How much of this AI industry is just going to turn out to be a repeat of the dot com bubble?
>>214394963>30 million dollar budgetai still needs a LOT of information to pull from in order for the film to stay consistent
>>214394963>What's the point of an AI movie having a 30 million dollar budget? Isn't AI meant to make film making cheaper more accessible?30m for a commercial movie >>IS<< CHEAP YOU FUCKING IDIOTWhat did you think it would be $500??
>>214394963>voices and script weren't made by ai toopointless. I'd genuinely love to watch some feverdream/nightmare nonsense pure unfiltered, uncurated AI film that's feature length.
Maybe it’s because we’re at the beginning of AI technology. In 15 years, we might only need $10k to make an animated movie. We’ll just need a few people to write the script for the AI, review the script to see if the AI created something entertaining, and then ask the AI to create the movie. They would correct any errors, but over time, the errors will become fewer, and the AI will improve as it approaches greater singularity.
>>214396007it should be. otherwise it's kind of shitty putting countless animators out of work just to make slightly more profits.
>>214396029scriptwriters should be the first thing to be replaced. ai is amazing at making coherent stories/text.
>>214395992>How does ChatGTP make money in general?gibs. I think the goal is to not even try to make money so they get tons of government money without scrutiny and get to control the market. They take no risk and their profits are preordained, so they don't care if it works out for stakeholders or not.
>>214395992The API costs are stupidly high once you get out of the free tiers. Interesting thing will be when we start getting charitable foundations or co-ops that start releasing focused multi-tb models, especially if there's a breakthrough to get ram requirements down the 64gb and lower.As for projects like in the OP, those are going to be little more than gimmicks and tech demos until the tech gets a lot better at persistence and 'fixed' designs.
>>214396007>30m for a commercial movie >>IS<< CHEAP YOU FUCKING IDIOTIt's an AI movie dumbo, no actors, no settings, no cameramen, no writers, no nothing, just PCs.
>>214396162>He thinks AI today can make full movies for cheapincredibly low IQ post
>>214395942that includes shit like advertising, paying to have shill threads like this made isn't cheap you know
I said it earlier tonight, I'll say it again: if they're objectively going to make the movie cheaper and with less effort because of this, why will I still have to pay $20 to see it in a theater?
>>214396162>>214396183Why is /tv/ so fucking stupid?
The crew
>make the movie in a style of an ai slop people see every day on tiktokbig mistake
>>214396200How is what I'm saying stupid? They're aiming to make an AI movie for $30 mil in nine months. If this hits in theaters, will I still be asked to pay the same price as a blockbuster? As a movie that required notable more effort?
>>214396221Yes. Why would movie ticket prices go down?
>>214396207Retard luddite
>>214394963>Bulk of work is automated>still need tens of millions of dollarsDo you get it yet? It's a racket. Look at who predominates in the industry. It's their normal mode of operation.
>>214396179No, advertising is not included in that budget, that is the budget to create the movie
>>214396228Because this movie cost less to make, had less people working on it, and had less effort put into it.
>>214396209That’s the only thing it can do lol
>>214395992I don't think any of the AI services are actually making money. It's all operating at a loss in the hopes of it becomes so ubiquitous at some point they can actually start making money.Then again, AI has become pretty ubiquitous, but it has such high operating costs, that actual profit might be a pipe dream. The costs of making even a short video clip is pretty huge.
>>214396174>>214396200Ok tell us where the money goes exactly.
>>214396162The fucking screenshot says they're casting va's and it has writers. 30 mil is still hilarious and obviously the usual money shell game is happening, but it's not like you can go to an ai and type "make moobie" and that's it.
>>214395992Government investment and selling user data.
>>214396209>make an ai slop movie in the style of ai slopWhat were you expecting?
AI isn't cheap at all. it's just that Open AI is offering the service at a loss right now. that's why it's a bubble.
>>214395992It doesn't, big AI companies they are playing the long game with it, smaller startups with no real viable product are just rugpulling clueless investors crypto style.
>>214395992pretty much corporations are pouring a shit ton of money into it hoping it will finally allow them to either completely ditch their emloyees are make it so they just need a few very basic bitch pajeets to handle it, problem is they really over estimated how capable AI is currently while so unless they get results soon (doubtful) you can except another bubble burst
>>214396060>>214396060Hello sar
>>214395992I don't know anon, I don't know anymore. Nothing about the modern world or economics makes sense to me. I go as far as "I'll trade you this cow for ten chickens". Maybe my mind can stretch to gold coins with the Emperor's face pressed into it. But nothing makes sense about how any of it works now. Personally, I think that you get to a certain level and things like "profitability" stop being a concern. It's about cultural leverage and power. How are movies profitable anymore when 90% of them bomb and cinemas are a wasteland? How is social media so profitable, is it really all ads? So it doesn't seem so out of place to me that AI is the newest one to take the crown of "I have no idea how something like this could possibly be worth so much money".It's all fucking fake, smoke and mirrors and holograms.
>>214395992>How does ChatGTP make money in general?Actual answer: they offer a subscription service for the less gimped version.
>>214395992>That is me assuming it even does.
>>214394963the budget is needed to overpay to make it happen on a short timeline. script would normally take 6 months and then get revised. need to pay voice actors more to be in an AI movie which at this time is a risk. lots of computing power and spend needed. you could make a movie yourself by spending longer but you spend more and get it quicker.
BUT what about our TWEETS!!!!! I THOUGHT WE STOPPED AI GUYS WITH OUR MEAN TWEEEEETS!!!! WHY ISNT IT WORKING!!!!!! I THOUGHT WE ENDED AI FOREVER WHAT ABOUT AI SLOP!!!! WHAT ABOUT OUR BOYCOTTS!!! NO NO NO! WE STOPPED IT WHY IS AI CONTINUING TO ADVANCE! NO! NO! NO! NO! THIS ISN'T HAPPENING AI WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER!!!!
>>214394963A "workstation" in the 90s used for CGI work, costed tens of thousands of dollars each. Nowadays, your mobile phone have the same computing power at a fraction of the price. Moore's Law will come into play for AI.
>>214397008I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where phones can run local models.
how do they plan to make coherent movie when currently all AI generated clips are no longer than 7 seconds or they start to disintegrate?
>>214397008>Moore's Lawstopped being a thing a long time ago
>>214397034Make hundreds of 7 seconds clips one after another starting from the last frame of each previous clip?
>>214397034they will be using better tools that openai gives them instead of pleb safe garbage. and also by stitching clips together/hiding them with cuts
>>214395018If you remove the talent salaries I wonder what the budget will be.It's a lot of work to make a movie with AI but it's feasible. That budget doesn't reflect what a budget AI movie will cost.
>>214394963[[[Hollywood accounting]]] and money laundering.
>>214394963>What's the point of an AI movie having a 30 million dollar budget? Isn't AI meant to make film making cheaper30 million dollar budget IS cheaper these days. Have you seen the the typical budgets for movies these days?
>>214395018>lol at delusional AI fags who thought any random dumbass would make movies>AI will never be able to draw hands>AI will never be indistinguishable from non-AI
>>214395992>How does ChatGTP make money in general?>>make money>>smug_laughing_anime_bitches.gif.exe.webmIt's only 1 more billion, guys, I swear we're thiiiiiiis close. Another 10 billion should get us there. Don't give up now with the finish in sight! I just need a small 100 extra billion.
>>214397609>AI will never be indistinguishable from non-AIIt's still not. I have no idea why facebook retards are so retarded
>>214397673Wow, she's the mother of Paul Hollywood
>>214396285>but it's not like you can go to an ai and type "make moobie" and that's it.oh no, you have to type out a whole list of keywords. You like, need to describe what you want in the scene and what you don't want. Hard brain work. Really strains your fingers. I'd charge $30,000 per hour for this immense mental burden it places on you. ugh!
>>214397673>It's still not.Yes it is. Your cherry-picked examples don't mitigate the fact that literally every image these days it met with "Is this AI???".
>>214395018Godzilla Minus One was made for half that
I hate AIfags so much
>>214397008It's not about the computation power anymore, it's more about the AI being not at all intelligent. Generative AI confidently makes mistakes that take most people no time at all to notice and figure how they'd fix them. AI on the other hand doesn't care, as it doesn't really see nor understand what it is making.
>>214397673>it will never be X, because it's not already X
>>214398590They hate you just as much, tradfilm fags are the ones who make all that woke trash and ruined the culture.
>>214396753Fiat currency is all about the promise of future value. At a large enough scale, companies and governments and shifting and changing and morphing these promises of future value with each other, where money floats in some ethereal loan that never actually touches the ground and materializes into real in-your-bank-account money. It's a way to make large scale operations more flexible, or just more inefficient depending on how you look at it.
>>214396007>30m for a commercial movie >>IS<< CHEAP YOU FUCKING IDIOTCommercial animated films usually cost 6-8 millions to make.
>>214394963>>30 mil to advertise their slop machinepennies on the dollar considering they're already 500 billies in the wholeremember, no AI company has made any profit yet, only NVIDIA makes bank, everyone else are valuation whores
>>214396244>Because this movie cost less to make,Wolfwalkers cost 10 million to make. This new AI film is 3 times more expensive than hiring a small army of real animators.
>>214399202>WolfwalkersWhat a good movie that was.
>>214399038In case you weren't paying attention, agentic AI has replaced generative AI already as the next step. Generative AI imagery is just cheap entertainment for social media users now, when companies talk about "AI" they're not talking about something like VisualDiffusion, they're talking about a program that can be issued a simple command like "complete this presentation about our companies growth this quarter. Here's access to my computers local files" and will quickly and effectively complete this in a few minutes. These AI cost considerably more and are marketed to companies, not individual consumers, although they are a fraction the cost of a college educated employee.
>>214399223>"complete this presentation about our companies growth this quarter. Here's access to my computers local files" and will quickly and effectively complete this in a few minutes. These AI cost considerably more and are marketed to companies, not individual consumers, although they are a fraction the cost of a college educated employee.Name the AI then. Last time someone pitched what you described, it was a scam where 700 indians pretended to be robots for investors and the CEO fled to Dubai with the money.
>>214397948>every image these days it met with "Is this AI???".Only on facebook
>>214399239Dude, there are at least half a dozen. All the major AI companies are working on those now. What you get on the app store when downloading chatgpt is just a fun toy. OpenAi and Deepmind for two examples are making these agentic AI. Obviously there are some kinks, but these are being smoothed out, just like how generative ai required complex brackets in 2022 but by now can interpret badly written human sentences no problem.
>>214399305>Dude, there are at least half a dozen.So name them. Didn't read past that sentence until you name them.
I'm a lawyer and have been incorporating AI in my work flows for research for years now and as someone who has been using GPT-5 pro(the 200 a month version of chatgpt) everyday since it's release, anyone who thinks AI is overrated or just hype is completely delusional. This technology is fucking real and it's pace of improvement in capabilities is staggering.
>>214396753I work in finance, the sort of things you can invest into would infuriate you if you think the tricks movie studios take to avoid massive profit loss are crooked. Imagine a debt instrument, like a loan. Imagine a bunch of those loans are grouped together and then further sold to a company that packages them into chunks and sells them as assets you can buy. Imagine those same securities have options contracts where you can pay someone else for the right to make them buy it from you if the price goes down. The more I have learned about finance the more bullshit I think it is.
My coworker just had to present a study he did for the customer about how we could use AI to save time refactoring some of our code base and he determined no matter how good of a prompt you give it, you would save time doing search and replace manually rather than spend time coming up with a good enough prompt and then reviewing the nonsensical garbage it spit out. AI is not intelligent. It's the predictive text on your phone keyboard expanded over more domain. It can't do basic math. It can't spell. It's smoke and mirrors that dazzles retards.
>>214395992>>214396753>>214399425Most tech firms operate at a loss. Why they push for so much investor money is that they seek to grow so big they have a monopoly status and then start charging expensive rates from their customers who have no choice but to use them.
>>214394963I you don't know what it's about, it's money.If it's about money and you still don't get it, it's about money laundering.
>>214394963Money laundering
>>214399345Lawyers are definitely the most at risk from AI, since everyone can just shunt a document into it to get summarized
>>214399313>Didn't read past that sentence until you name them.I named them in the following sentence lol. Good bait my friend. I accept your concession.
Idiots this AI stuff isn't going away, get on board or get left behind like a cuckboy, bitching online ain't gonna change it.
>>214394963>30 million dollar budget29 million of that is them paying themselves for api calls
>>214399345Most people here are NEETs who don't have jobs so they don't have money to use the sota models to actually see how good they are for work or research. They're just going to chatgpt.com and getting routed to gpt-5 mini to use as a google search replacement.
>>214399615Bitch it costs 200/month no one has that.
Nice scam. 30 million to use their own AI. ha ha!
Wait, doesn't google have the best video gen model with Veo3? Why are they using OpenAI crappy sora for this which no one uses? Pretty much all the AI slop shorts on youtube and tiktok use google because it's by far the best model out.
>>214399615To be honest if you offered me the $200 version I'd still use it to ask "where is copacabana" and stupid shit like that so yeah I'm no impressed by such progress.
>>214399614"brother"
>>214399614>roastie comes out of the woodwork for attentionwoow, shocking
>>214399614People that do this shit to their family are disgusting. And I'm talking about her, not him. Bringing up shit that your sibling did as a child decades later because you want attention should be grounds for ritual execution by stoning.
>>214394963Jeets gonna jeet
>>214395992Apple paid them a lot for iphone integration and its done practically nothing.
>>214396007Yes. if it costs the same amount as lower budet movie anyway there's no point.AI obviously hasn't progressed as far as they need it to if they have sink 30 million to make this project work
studios wouldn't fund one last david lynch project but they gave this shit 30 million
>>214400048>studios wouldn't fund one last david lynch projectI wonder why lol
>NOT AI voicing it>NOT AI writing itnot real AI
>>214400048>studiosTaxpayer money is funding this.
>>214397910>I'd charge $30,000 per hour for thisso working 40 hours a week for nine months would bring the budget to... 43 million.
>generating assets then hiring voice actorsunless they're going to img2img the voice actors reading their lines and emoting, the way disney did back in the 2D era, this will look like shit.
>>214399153Lmao what>Examples of Recent Budgets (2023-2025)>The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023): $100 million>Wish (2023): $200 million>Kung Fu Panda 4 (2024): $85 million>The Wild Robot (2024): $78 million>Elio (2025): Estimated $300 million
>chatgpt
>>214400344He can do it in 25 weeks, easy.
>>214399924A 13 year old isn't a child that's basically an adult, if he really did do that shit he was plenty old enough to know he shouldn't, same with that actor who confessed to shoving rocks up her infant sisters vagina and nothing came of it
>>214400398>Elio (2025): Estimated $300 million
>>214400398why such a massive difference??>The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023): $100 million>Elio (2025): Estimated $300 million
>>214394963>What's the point of an AITo grift money. AI shouldn't exist, it's just the latest tech scam. Nobody should watch anything produced by AI either, it's of crucial importance for the good of humanity. >>214395992>How does ChatGTP make money in general?It doesn't. AI corpos and the people that backed them, including the US government, are desperate to find an actual use case for this shit because they invested titanic amounts of money into the AI bubble. But it's basically like VR - nobody actually wants it except a few negligible tech freaks. When this bubble pops and it will it'll plunge America into an economic abyss.
>>214400606Disney accounting to shut down Pixar
>>214400606The Elio test screenings went so badly that they basically remade it from scratch. If you were going to movies like two years ago, they were showing trailers for a version that got completely scrapped.
>>214400558>A 13 year old isn't a child that's basically an adultA 13-year-old is indisputably a child, and being old enough to know you are doing something you shouldn't doesn't mean you know it is a grave crime.
>>214400558>>21440070913 year old robs a store>nooo don't trial him it's a childerinooo13 year old grabs a pussy>DEAAATH!!
>>214394963>What's the point of an AI movie having a 30 million dollar budget? Isn't AI meant to make film making cheaper more accessible?“Proof of Concept”. The same reason movies like the remake of “The Thing” from 2011 deleted all the live makeup and practical effects for crappy CGI. Someone wants to prove that AI can be used to make an entire full length movie, so they will spend the budget of an actual full length movie to try to prove it’s possible. Once the proof comes, or semi proof, then money flows to “AI” to repeat the process.
Essentially the only "people" who are into AI are Indians who believe that getting some sort of job related to it is within the realm of possibility so they can flee India. The whole thing is just an amalgamation of techfreak greed and third worldism.
>>214400806have you considered you are treating people with diametrically opposite ideologies as the same people
>>214394963its going to be a pioneer in AI filming, its going to be more expensive. The training data will cut the costs of future films to to just millons
>>214394963>Paddington 3 writers penned the script>Will have human voice actorsIn what sense is this an AI movie then? AI has been assisting the visual aspects of CGI forever.
>>214400847I don't mix them, I'm just illustrating the debate.
>>214400847Of course not.
>>214400808>The same reason movies like the remake of “The Thing” from 2011 deleted all the live makeup and practical effects for crappy CGIthey deleted the practical effects because audiences laughed at them. they're too conditioned to seeing cgi garbage to entertain those kind of practical effects anymore.
>>214400814or people excited about locally generated bespoke media
>>214395992They're selling the biggest companies in the world a future where they not only control the hearts and minds of people directly by controlling the flow of information to each person individually but also don't even need people to do the most expensive shit they need done now anymore. Everyone at the top wants this future and will spend every dime you make them to ensure it happens.
>>214396251>AI has become pretty ubiquitous, but it has such high operating costs, that actual profit might be a pipe dreamthats why Deepseek was such a big deal. Its 99% cheaper than conventional AI
>>214395018but you, the anti-ai spammer, are the one that thought thatjust roll out the pajeet reacts directly and save time
>>214394963AI can't do voices itself?
>>214396039All of these 'animators' already put cartoonists out of jobs. Justice is served.
>>214401066something something Voice actrors strike
>>214394963>creativity>AI
>$30m isn't cheap???average budget of a low budget indie movie is ~150-200m
>>214400847>diametrically hola tumblr
>>214394963this is going to be such soulless dogshit holy fuck lmaoeven the name sounds like some shitty mean-spirited parody of a bad 90's direct to VHS, like seriously "critterz"? is this an ironic, fake saturday morning cartoon about bestiality in a bush era garth ennis comic?will definitely skim through it drunk and high for free on 123movies when it comes out though, if only to see how nightmarish and surreal it is
>>214400455I'm 78 and this is deep
>>214395992Government gibs because fomo to the Chinese AI
>>214398590Same!I don't care how much people it can help, I don't care if it helps with your job. I want my deviant art softcore Sonic porn art to be worth something! BAN AI! It's hurting artists ):
>Canne
>>2143949639 month of overheads and wages, then they need to advertise it.>Isn't AI meant to make film making cheaper more accessible?You're implying 30 million isn't cheaper?
>>214396029that is not how AI shit works, the resources required are more than you think
>>214394963> Isn't AI meant to make film making cheaper more accessible?this is a mistake. AI, like all technology, is meant to turn skilled labor into unskilled labor.
>>214402355>he thinks computing power won't continue increasing
>>214397630People used to say that about uber too.
>>214402416sir or ma'am it won't, can't and hasn't been, there are now minor increases but it's not the 90s
>>214402452you believe computing power hasn't been steadily increasing because bloat has been steadily increasing with it. its a sad state of affairs.
>>214402504things can only get so small
>>214402546... bro you know your graph is supporting moore's law right?
>>214402599i don't know how graphs work
>>214398590>I hate AIfags so muchMaybe you can stop AI advancement by sharing your butthurt.
>>214402648we all know letting people know how much something bothers you, on 4chan, makes it stop
watch the alt right incels review bomb this movie
>>214394963Critterz? I hate AI slop so much, bros.
>>214394963Was the prompt "give me some cashgrab a 30-something year old woman without a child would like"?
>>214394963>critterzthey're going to be dmca'd to high heavenshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zmcV0pIKKg
>>214402784It can't really compare with Pixels or Sausage Party
>>214402708I thought chuds loved AI because they're not creative?
>>21439501830 mil is more than 2 Godzilla Minus One.
>>214394963It's money laundering. Like every movie in Hollywood. I mean, think about it. How can a movie that's barely above high school level cost $150 million? And then when they post losses they can tax write offs. It's an absolute scam and the reason we don't get any good movies now. Because they don't care.
>>214402936exactly, chuds don't have the creativity to deconstruct using critical theory
>>214400806>13 year old robs a store>>DEAAATH!!>13 year old grabs a pussy>>DEAAATH!!
>>214397004These tweets?
>>214403627Finally people are discovering how to exploit identity politics against the left and I'm loving it.
>>214394963Pixar's Elio cost 200 mil. So, theorerically, it's a significant saving.
>>214394963Give me a full length Super Hand vs Blacula film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ZW8fh_iTM
>>214394963>What's the point of an AI movie having a 30 million dollar budget?How would you launder enough money to make it worthwhile if the budget wasn't at least $30 million?
>>214399345>I'm a lawyer and have been incorporating AI in my work flows for research for yearsWere you Karl Jobst's lawyer?
>>214399345>lawyerAI is good at summarizing legaleez bullshit and then translating actual english into more legaleez bullshit.That's not AI doing anything useful its your profession being so needlessly full of shit that you need a computer to wade through the bullshit for you.
>>214394963Why rely on actual writers and voice actors? Well I get the actual writers honestly, but voice ai has come a long way and you can select for the best possible generation.
>>214403920>Why rely on actual writers and voice actors?That's why they had that writer and actor's strike a few years back. If you do it then the Screen Actor's Guild and the Writer's Guild boycott you.
>>214395992data, selling datayou can have access to data and sell it to others without... getting rid of that data.
>>214403819keep coping
Reminder that adjusted for inflation thats about the same budget as Akira Kurosawa's Ran
It has potential for sure.
>>214403952>the Screen Actor's Guild and the Writer's Guild boycott you.Ain't that the point? To get rid of them?
>>214404362If you used any of their work as input for your AI they'd sue the shit out of you. So you''d have to program your AI to make tv and movies without using any tv or movies as input.
>>214400266because it's not dog shit
>>214395992that 500 billion dollar blank check Trump wrote for AI companies literally days after he became president.
>>214395992Investmen for future tech development and first dibs on next gen tech.China thank god put an end to that recently with their cheap and free model, it really fuckd ameriburgers over.
>>214397034People have been making 1min+ long clips on terrible hardware for awhile now. Yeah, it looks like Flash animation most times, but it DOES remain coherent (mostly because it isn't doing much outside of lip syncing audio). Plus, it's a kids movie. That's gonna have a zillion cuts anyway.
>>214404722That would be impossible to prove, it's not because your MC is named Romeo that you copied Shakespeare, even if you actually did it. Just feed the AI a dozen stories and the mix would be unrecognizable.
>>214405130>That would be impossible to proveIf you go into court and tell the judge you can't provide what data was used to train your AI you aren't going to win the case.
>>214394963>ai movie>not written or voiced by aidoubt.jpg
>>214405259The burden of proof is upon them...
>>214405371>The burden of proof is upon them...If you don't provide the prosecution with what the evidence they ask for then you lose the case. If you refuse or can't provide data that shows what inputs were used to program your AI in a manner that demonstrates it didn't use copyright material then you're going to lose the case.This isn't a criminal trial. Its civil litigation. You don't have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Preponderance of evidence decides civil cases. If SAG and the writers guild say that you used their material to train an AI that is effectively replicating their material and the company that programed the AI can't prove that it didn't do so then they're going to lose the case.
>>214405480Ok then provide a bullshit list, how will the court verify? The AI could very well shit a story while you only fed it on the dictionary, it's impossible to verify and imo they know it.
Did you know commie kgb states already put AI movies in theatres? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXhyRFbwXiw
>>214405480There are a few arguments for allowing AI being trained as fair use. To the AI algorithm, material under copyright is ingested without diferentiation. That sequence in a film with a car racing isn't distinguishable to any other car movie, security footage from a street weighs the same, a car commercial, you name it. The movie is never ingested as a complete product but as its parts, it's just generic content. Some concepts can be learnt like styles (e.g. Ghibli) or an actor's resemblance. Style cannot be subject to copyright, an actor's image depends on the final use, it's an individual right and it isn't copyright related.>>214405709Cool, I guess this one is AI animation starting from a rendered still.
>>214405623>Ok then provide a bullshit list, how will the court verify?You'd have to show the code. If you can't verify the claims of a product that you've produced then you're liable. Telling the court you can't prove your product's claims isn't going to fly.>>214405922Its not style its content. You aren't just watching a film and then writing something similar. You're taking that film as a product and using it as a component to make something new. If I took a clip of a film and then used it in a show without permission I couldn't claim fair use. By the same token if I take a clip of a show, put it into a computer and use it to make something new I'm not creating things, I'm editing things.
>>214406053anon, your, and every, argument as to why using copyrighted material as training data isn't fair use is also an argument for why watching a movie at all shouldn't be considered fair use if you literally ever write anything, ever.
>>214395992there's the thing, it doesn't
>>214405113>but it DOES remain coherentInside one shot? Yes.Over multiple shots? Absolutely not.
>>214406053>>214405480>a person reads a bunch of fantasy novels>he decides to be a fantasy novel writer>nope, can't do it since you were reading fantasy novels, it's not permitted to write fantasy books if you read anything from that genre previously!this is where we're at with this particular line of arguinglifting characters, events, and plots wholesale is one thing, being influenced by something to the point of using it as reference or inspiration is another.
>>214397609>AI will never be indistinguishable from non-AIStill true you dumb nigger.
>>214408156This. Technology never improves.
>>214408156Joke's on you, i wrote that bait with AI
>>214399345Incorporating AI to help you research is completely separate from having AI do the work for you. It's the difference between having a highly-advanced Google search that brings you the data you are looking for versus a machine being able to creatively make use of that data for a specific purpose. We work with AI every day in finance, but it fucks up all the time even with simple questions. It is a long, long way off from being able to reliably replace a skilled user.
>>214404016Why did you title this as AGI?
>>214396062They sell use of their models to people and businesses, the rest of these answers are clueless luddites
>>214399153>Commercial animated films usually cost 6-8 millions to make.Name 3
>>214408346what about fields where failure states (read: fuckups) can be automatically verified and filtered without human involvement? is ai in those fields a long way off from being able to reliably replace a "skilled user?" also lol, skill, finance.
>>214409375>what about fields where failure states (read: fuckups) can be automatically verified and filtered without human involvement?Then identification of errors is easier, but nonetheless requires human intervention>also lol, skill, finance.I said skilled user, not that finance is a skill. Medicine is not a skill, but AI would be useful for a doctor to practice medicine. Same situation with finance and AI.
the AI movie could cost them $1 or $100m to make, im not watching it either waysame reason I won't be willingly consuming any media that has AI art in it
>>214394963OP, do you not want Sam Altman to have twelve Bugattis? Are you an anti-Semite?
